1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: As l fifteen to ten toussed up sucks. What's Up? Guys? 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly as 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: we push through the dog days before we get the 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: training camp as always, joined by Matt Money Smith and Buddy. 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: We had a fun, lively discussion. 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: With Lindsley and Lindsey Theory and Jeff Miller last week 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: on the roundtable. I found it entertaining and if folks 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: haven't listened, they should probably check it. 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: Out one hundred percent. Got a lot of reaction to 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: it through the social media channels, and it's always nice 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: to get some outside perspective. Always enjoyed doing the podcast 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: with you week in and week out, but you know, 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: there's things we might miss and things that Lindsey and 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: Jeff can pick up on. Of course, all the beat 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: writers do a heck of a job and they cover 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: the team day and day out with the stuff that's 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: media accessible, so it was great to sort of get, 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: you know, just some outside eyes on what they're seeing, 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: what they think this team can do, and felt like 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: we all sort of had a I whant to say consensus, 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: but the same sort of feeling about what this team 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: should look like has the capability to look like in 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, and White Charger fans ought to be 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: pretty excited about what's ahead here when we get things rolling. 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: Like you said, we're in the dog days in about 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: a month month and a half with training camp. 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be here before you know it. 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: And I figured during this time, you know, we've talked 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: a lot about some of the star players. I think 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: what we want to do the next couple of weeks 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: is really kind of dive into a particular side of 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: the football, and today just dig into the defense a 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: little bit, Bunny. I know you have some trends from 34 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: last year and some things. 35 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: That you saw. I also want to talk about some. 36 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: Guys that we haven't really talked about over the last 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: five or six months as much that could have an 38 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: impact on this rotter. Whether it be some rookies or 39 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: some guys that some unherld of guys from last year, 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: maybe some guys that they signed this pass offseason. But 41 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: I think it's a nice kind of starting point for 42 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three season to kind of dig into 43 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: this Brandon Stanley defense in year three. 44 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: Sure, I think one of the things that we haven't 45 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 3: talked about enough, and no doubt it's because Brandon Staley 46 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: calls a defense. So the departure of Rinaldo Hill and 47 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: the elevation of Derek Ansley and what that's going to 48 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: look like hasn't been discussed understandably nearly as much as 49 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 3: Kellen Moore, who is going to build the offense, going 50 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: to call the plays on the offense and essentially is 51 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: I mean, look, Brandon Staley's going to have a hand 52 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: in that. He's a former quarterback, this guy that made 53 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: his bones as a player on the offensive side of 54 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 3: the ball, So there's no doubt that he's going to 55 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: be involved. But for the most part, he's got freedom 56 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: to build that offense and to call that offense the 57 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: way he sees fit. Defensively, Derek's going to be an 58 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: extension of Brandon. He's going to be a sounding board 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: for him. He's going to be another set of eyes 60 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: that can perhaps he help him see why don't we 61 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: try something this way, or let's put this player in 62 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: this particular position where I think he'll excel, and that 63 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 3: maybe's been it's been understated what kind of impact that 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: can have. You know, some of the videos that our 65 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 3: social media team's been putting out in our digital team 66 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: and Megan and Jason and everybody shows you just like 67 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: how much juice he has, how excited he is. And 68 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: Lindsey made an interesting point last week about just Justin 69 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 3: and the way he comports himself and the way he 70 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: views leadership. And we know Derwin's very vocal on that sideline. 71 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: We certainly know from the micd up that Sebastian, Joseph 72 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: Day and Joey Bosa, they can all get after it. 73 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: But there is something to be said if you have 74 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: stoic players or you have a head coach that Brandon 75 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: can get excited, no doubt about it. But he's a 76 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: head coach and he I believe, presents himself that way 77 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: most of the time on the sideline. So every now 78 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: and then it's good to find some if you need 79 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: juice somewhere from some of these coaches. And it appears 80 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: as though Ronaldo Hill was a little bit more subdued coach. 81 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: Ansley looks to be a little bit more of that 82 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: that power, and at times it did feel like, particularly 83 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: in the third quarters, I don't know what was going on, 84 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: if it was if it was a nap, or if 85 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 3: they had massage chairs in that locker room at halftime 86 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: or what was going you know what it was. But 87 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: we know the third quarters were a serious issue for 88 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: this team, and so maybe getting a little bit of 89 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: that juice can can help. It's it's gonna make the difference. 90 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: Is it gonna get you an extra win or no? 91 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 3: Saying it's it's something that's worth noting. As much as 92 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: we pay attention to Kellen Moore and how different this 93 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: offense can look, that's a much bigger impact. But I 94 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 3: do think there there is something to be said about 95 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: having a different voice, a different set of eyes that 96 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: can perhaps help a unit that has got a ton 97 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 3: of talent and for whatever reason, just has not lived 98 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: up to the names on paper. Injuries, no doubt about it, 99 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: But I'm talking about moments in games where we've seen 100 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: this defense let down, and that's the difference between wins 101 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: and losses, considering how tight the margins were in most 102 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 3: of these charger contests. You know. 103 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: But it's a great point about coaching and coaching styles, 104 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: because you don't want every coach to be the same. 105 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of when Ron Milis was 106 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 2: the defensive backs coach. When Gus was the DC coach, 107 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: Milo would let these guys be themselves. They all had 108 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: a different handshake with Milus and it was just kind 109 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: of a looser atmosphere in the secondary. And I'm not 110 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: saying every style is different. Every style works in some 111 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: form or fashion, but to have Annsley bring the juice 112 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: a little bit and maybe that sets the tone for 113 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: some of the players on the team. We know Dirwin 114 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: is vocal, and I think it was you maybe a 115 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. We don't really need any more 116 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: leaders on the team, you know. We talked about Kendricks 117 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: as a leader, Derwin is the heart and soul. Joey 118 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: and Khalil bring leaders in their own ways, largely through 119 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: their play. But I do think there's something to be 120 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: said about Derek Ansley and kind of that unknown of 121 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: what it is specifically that he's going to bring in 122 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: coordination with Brandon Staley and third quarters were an issue. 123 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: Run defense certainly an issue, and I went back to 124 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: Brandon Staley's one year with the Rams and just looked 125 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: at how good they were against the run. I think 126 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: there were number three in the NFL. So sometimes people 127 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: say this system what you know, you don't want anything 128 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 2: to get behind you, and you know maybe that's why 129 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: you know sometimes running back can get runs on you. 130 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: If you have the players and you have the scheme, 131 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: and you combine it and you marry it, you can 132 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: do big things, especially against the run. That's one of 133 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: the things I want to see what Ansley and Staley 134 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: have cooked up this year. I think that they have 135 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: the personnel now as we get to year three to 136 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 2: kind of slowly gets what we saw it at the 137 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: end of last year. Like those last five games. I 138 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: knew the quarterbacks were an elite, but we saw them 139 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: stop the run. We saw how good they were on 140 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: third down, and I think that could be a nice 141 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: starting point with Ansley at the helm. 142 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: So you go through it from last year, and this 143 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: is where the Kellen Moore conversation comes into play. It's 144 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: one hand washes the other. When you look at the 145 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: Chargers defense, particularly the third quarter, is what everybody's been 146 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: talking about and just how bad third quarters were for 147 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: this team. Well, you look at the Chargers offense by 148 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: quarter and you see second quarter's total outlier second in 149 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: the league, eleven point three points per game. The third 150 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: quarter not necessarily an outlier because fourth quarter was almost 151 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: right there with it. But third quarter points per game. 152 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: So you go eleven point three in the second quarter, 153 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 3: you feel like, hey, we carried this momentum into the half, 154 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: let's build on it coming out of the break and 155 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: really put our foot on the throat of our pone it. 156 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: Third quarter twenty ninth in the league. Two point nine 157 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: points per game for the offense. Now you look at 158 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: the defense, and second quarter their highest ranking of any 159 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: quarter as a defense, allowing six point eight points per game. 160 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: Their third quarter as a defense the worst of all 161 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: the quarters, five point seven points per game. So, like, 162 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: I think it's important to recognize this is there is 163 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: a connection here between these two sides of the ball 164 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: that the offense and the defense works hand in hand. 165 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 3: And if your offense is not producing and your defense 166 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: is put into some bad spots because your offense is 167 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 3: turning the ball over having multiple three and outs, things 168 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: can get sideways. And that's It's something that was also 169 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 3: brought up last week when we discussed how we felt 170 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: about Brandon's play calling, about coach Day's play calling, about 171 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: his schemes, about how this team seemed to have things 172 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: figured out with what its opponent was trying to do 173 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: offensively in the game, and it sort of cracked that 174 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: code early and then it got away from them in 175 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: the second halfs And I kind of just went through 176 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: through a lot of different stuff. I mentioned the points 177 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: per game, per quarter. I know they sound weird. It 178 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: doesn't sound like it's that big of a gap, but 179 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: it is when you talk about just how games play out. 180 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: So when I went through every single loss and I 181 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: tried to figure out, okay, what was was there? Was 182 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 3: there a common factor? Was there a common trend in 183 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: all of these losses? And for the most part, yes, 184 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: in every single loss, the second halfs were a disaster, 185 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: an unmitigated disaster. If I go Week two in Kansas City, 186 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 3: They're up seventeen to seven at the break. Here's their 187 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: second half offensive possessions. Punt punt, pick six, punt punt, 188 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: and then they scored a TD and couldn't get the 189 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: on side kick. The defense allowed just seven points in 190 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: the first half, come out in the back end, touchdown, punt, 191 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: field goal, punt field goal. So the defense held up 192 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 3: the offense gave them nothing in that second half. As 193 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: a matter of fact, they took seven points because they 194 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: threw the pick six. Week three, Jacksonville. You remember what 195 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 3: a mess that game was. Final scores thirty eight to ten. 196 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: It was sixteen to seven at the half. It was 197 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: sixteen to ten after the first possession of the third quarter, 198 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: and after that punt, turnover on downs, turnover on downs. 199 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: The defense goes touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, and that's how you 200 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: lose thirty eight to ten. You go to Week seven, Seattle, 201 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: they're only down ten. It's twenty four to fourteen at 202 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: the half, and they come out in the third quarter. Punt, punt, punt, 203 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: turnover on downs. It's and then you look at what 204 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: Seattle does, and it's field goal, safety, field goal touchdown. 205 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: These things just compile. I think it's worth going through 206 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: all of them. In San Francisco second half, punt, punt, punt, 207 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: turnover on downs, interception, they had fifty seven yards in 208 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: the second half. They had the ball for under nine minutes. 209 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: Can't expect the defense to perform when the other side 210 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 3: of the ball is not on the field is three 211 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: and out, is punting and giving their opponent good field position. 212 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: Sooner or later, that damn is gonna break. Week eleven 213 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: Kansas City. First half, here's your offensive possessions in the 214 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: first half. Touchdown, field goal, touchdown, touchdown. That's your that's 215 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: your first half. Second half punt, punt, fumble. Like it's 216 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: just it's it's right in front of you. 217 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: They stumble. 218 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 3: Vegas up thirteen to ten at the half on that 219 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: pick six of six of Derek Carr, second half fumble, 220 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: missed field goal, punt, and it just and obviously we 221 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: know what the playoff was, right up twenty seven to seven, punt, 222 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: field goal, missed field goal, punt, Jacksonville touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. 223 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: That's so, that's it. Even in wins, like I looked 224 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: up some of the wins in Houston, they're up twenty 225 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: seven to seven at the half, they come out in 226 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 3: the third quarter, punt, punt, punt fumble that you know, 227 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 3: it's twenty seven to twenty four in the fourth quarter 228 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: and you're like, wait a minute, what just happens? Team 229 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: was up twenty points. Yeah, So I bring it all 230 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 3: up because that's why people are excited about Kellen Moore. 231 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: That's why the defense can't be discussed without also bringing 232 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 3: up the offense, because it's it is it is imperative 233 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: that whatever was going on with this team to start 234 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: the third quarters, it's got to come to an end. 235 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: There's just got that third quarter again. Twenty ninth in 236 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: the league, they averaged less than a field goal per quarter. 237 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: That is less than twelve points per game, if you 238 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: expand what they do in the third quarter, less than 239 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: twelve points per game as an offense. So that's that's 240 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: got to get fixed in order for the defense to 241 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: get better and for them not to give away these 242 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: games in the second half. 243 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: If you just bookend the season on the road, right 244 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: that Kansas City game where it was complete domination in 245 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: the first half and you fall apart in the second half, 246 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: and then it's the same exact story in Jacksonville, and frankly, 247 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: the defense was the ones that put the offense in 248 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: the position to score in the first half. If you remember, 249 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: it's not they sent me a three interception when you 250 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: have five turnovers in the first half. The defense, the 251 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: offense didn't have to move the ball really at all 252 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: in that Jacksonville game, and then in the second half 253 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: they didn't move the football at all, and the defense 254 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: wore down. And it was that third quarter into the 255 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: fourth quarter where they look like two completely different teams. 256 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: So as we say at the top, we're going to 257 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: talk about defense today. To Bundy's point, Kellen Moore in 258 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: the offense is just as important in terms of how 259 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: the defense. You know, when your offense scores right out 260 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 2: of the gate in the second half, right, you don't 261 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 2: think the defense is little jacked up to get on 262 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: the field and get another three and out and get 263 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: your offense back on the field. So that's I think 264 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: an important point that you brought up money, because that 265 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: was theme throughout. I was waiting for you to get 266 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: to the Seattle game because I was like, man, the 267 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: way you laid that out, it was like I was 268 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: in we were in Houston, Eckler had three touchdowns. They 269 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: almost lost that game in Houston, like. 270 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: Twenty seven to twenty four. It was twenty twenty seven 271 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: twenty four. Houston had the ball. 272 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, every every stage of the regular season this 273 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: kind of reared its head. And yes, Kellen Moore in 274 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: the offense, but I think the defense and anybody can 275 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: say this, but when you do have the talent that 276 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: the Chargers have, if they have a little bit better 277 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: injury luck, things are going to be I think just fine. 278 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: There's a couple of guys, buddy, that we haven't talked 279 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: about that I wanted to get your thoughts on. The 280 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: first is Nick Williams. And Nick Williams was in Chicago 281 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: with Jay Rodgers and Brandon Staley in twenty nineteen. He 282 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: essentially replaced Austin Johnson with the Giants in the starting 283 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: lineup last year. When Austin came to the Chargers in 284 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, he had six sacks. He played with Khalil Mack. 285 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: Khalil had nine and a half that year. Nick Williams 286 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: was second. He has forty two starts since twenty nineteen, 287 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: and it was a signing a few weeks ago that 288 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: we're like, Okay, Nick Williams, that's cool. But when you 289 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: think about the defensive line and the depth that's needed 290 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: because injuries are inevitable, a guy like that who knows 291 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: Staley's system, who has been coached by Jay Rodgers, who 292 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: you know, essentially replaced Austin Johnson in New York, that's 293 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: another depth piece that is you can add essentially to 294 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: this defensive line. And I haven't even mentioned guys like 295 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: Tito Abonia and guys who got hurt. But Nick Williams 296 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: I think is a very under the radar free agent signing. 297 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: You know, Kendricks was the guy we talked about. But 298 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: I think Nick Williams will contribute this year. 299 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: Well, I'll be honest, Chris, I hope he doesn't. I'm 300 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: just saying that because, like you said, he's a depth piece. 301 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: Now he is a better depth piece when you're talking 302 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: about you know what best case scenario is Tito Abonia, 303 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: Austin Johnson, Sebastian Joseph Day. There's your three man rotation 304 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: for those two inside tackles. Sign of Nick, though, is 305 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: better than what they were faced with in the middle 306 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: of the season last year, and that's trying to pluck 307 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 3: guys off whomever was exposed on a practice squad and 308 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: just trying to get them up and run. And here 309 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: we are in week five. You got to figure this out. 310 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: We need You're going to start this game like that's 311 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: what we were looking at last year. So that's where 312 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: the point you're making is, great, get some depth. Injuries 313 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: are going to happen. Tito Obonia and Austin Johnson are 314 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: both coming off significant injuries, and to project that they're 315 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: going to play seventeen games, or they're going to be 316 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: effective in seventeen games. It's crazy. So that's where Nick 317 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: Williams comes in. You look at the depth chart, and 318 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: I'm just looking at it right now, and it's kind 319 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: of what you you know, I think you're probably a 320 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: little worried about because you look behind and you see Nick, 321 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: and and you see Tito behind Sebastian Joseph Daan and 322 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 3: Austin Johnson behind that's David Moa, Jared Clark, cj Akoye. 323 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 3: So it's it gets thin in a hurry, and that's 324 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: where you hope that someone like Nick, who's thirty three, 325 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: who's been in this league for a long time, who's 326 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: piled up a career of one hundred and twenty five tackles, 327 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 3: seven and a half sacks, has certainly proven in whatever 328 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: role you ask of him, he's capable of going out. 329 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: It's almost like a middle reliever. Can you get me 330 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 3: some innings? Can you chew up some innings so I 331 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,239 Speaker 3: can give Austin Johnson, I can give Sebastian Joseph they 332 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: a breather. And that's and when you mentioned coaching, that's 333 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: something that is worth bringing up because I'll go, you know, 334 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: I'll just go to last year and think about how 335 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: well it didn't matter who it was, like, how well 336 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 3: that you know, Fojoko played that, Merroll played that, Hinton 337 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: played like Tys Shelby. Like they were bringing in guy 338 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: guys that we're playing pretty darn well and not letting, 339 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: you know, the games get away from you. At least 340 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 3: they were keeping the Chargers in the game for the 341 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 3: most part, for most of these games that they were 342 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 3: able to either win or lose. So there is something 343 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: to be said about Jay and Jay Rodgers and Brandon 344 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: Staley and the way they coach these players and the 345 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 3: way they developed these players. Tito Abonia was really coming 346 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: on when he ended up getting hurt, like he was 347 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: really coming on, was looking like a hell of a 348 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: fine in that fourth round I think that's where they 349 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 3: draft them in the fourth round, and looked like he 350 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: was going to start earning a lot more time. We 351 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 3: talked about Brandon Fojoko and him coming on as an 352 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 3: undrafted free agent, how well he managed to play. So 353 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: if there's one thing we can tell, it seems as 354 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 3: though that particular position group plays pretty darn well. Under 355 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: this set of coaching, under the sets of coaches that 356 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 3: the Chargers have, and seems to play at or above 357 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: their previous levels if they were at any other stops. 358 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: And that's where when you bring up Nick where it's 359 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 3: a little more encouraging that they have some depth at 360 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: the start of the season and you know what someone's 361 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: gonna show. You know, someone's gonna flash in training camp. 362 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: You know that the the front office does a really 363 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 3: good job of finding and tabbing these undrafted free agents. 364 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 3: And just like we've seen with Braden Fojoco, with Forrest Merrill, 365 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: with Joe Gaziano, just going through the whole defensive line, 366 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 3: they tend to find guys. They tend to find guys 367 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: that play and end up playing pretty well and make 368 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: nice and end up developing nice NFL careers for themselves. 369 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: Maybe Scott Medlock's that guy, the guy from Boy Yeah, 370 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: who you. 371 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: Know showed some promise. 372 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: I think he's got some size and maybe can be 373 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: one of. 374 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: Those guys that six four to three hundred. 375 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: He could be a rotational guy potentially. The one thing 376 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 2: about Tito and Austin Johnson, I think silver linings to injuries. 377 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: It happened earlier in the year. So Austin Johnson got 378 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: hurt in the Atlanta game, Tito got hurt in the 379 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers game. So you hope those guys are 380 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: ready to go for training camp. Tito, I went back. 381 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 2: I interviewed him right after he was drafted money, and 382 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: I listened back to it because I kind of forgot 383 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: the conversation. He went to the local pro day because 384 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: he's from UCLA, and he hit it off with the 385 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: Chargers and he said he knew he kind of knew 386 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: that the Chargers were the team that he was going 387 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 2: to go to. And in terms of what he said 388 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: he was going to provide to the team, he said, 389 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: first and foremost, improved the rush defense and secondly, collapse 390 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: pockets for Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack. And to your point, 391 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 2: we saw that, I mean we saw him coming on. 392 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 2: And he's another guy, almost like a red shirt rookie 393 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: this year who I think fans will be very excited 394 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: to see in this rotation. I think he had one 395 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: year as a starter at UCLA, but he was there 396 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: for a while, just a powerful dude. And I think 397 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: the season is so long you kind of forget moments 398 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: throughout the year, and I think Tito was maybe a 399 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: little forgotten about because of his injury. But he's coming 400 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: back and I think he's gonna be an impactful player. 401 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 3: You look at the rush numbers, and we all know 402 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: they were terrible. One hundred and forty four yards per game. 403 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 3: Teams rushed twenty seven times per game and they would 404 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 3: have seven rushes for first downs. That can't have that. 405 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 3: Just that that's something that needs to be fixed. They 406 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 3: were dead last allowing five point four rush yards per 407 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 3: attempt and they were twenty third and percentage of rush 408 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: plays against them, which tells you teams came in and 409 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: said we're gonna run the ball, and what Coach Staley 410 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 3: will tell you is that's fine that they believe. And 411 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 3: I do think this is where philosophy and scheme comes 412 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: into play. Is it's the philosophy. I don't want to 413 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: put words in his mouth and have him come on 414 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: and tell us himself, but my interpretation of the way 415 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 3: they approach is no explosive place. Happy to give up 416 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: for four yards on the ground. See if we can 417 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 3: get a negative play in there on second down, rush 418 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 3: the passer on third down. One thing we can't do 419 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: is give up that twenty yard explosive passing play, that 420 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: thirty yard that get over your head touch. That's the 421 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 3: one thing they will not allow. Unfortunately, what became a 422 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: bit of a signature for this defense was explosive runs. 423 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: No defense allowed more explosive runs than the Chargers. So 424 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: while I understand you don't want the thirty yard pass 425 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 3: play or the fifty yard bomb for a touchdown, you 426 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 3: also don't want the forty yard run, the seventy yard 427 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: run from Kenneth Walker. The amy might be of who 428 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: was exactly ho Dame. That's what I was thinking about 429 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: Pierson Houston for seventy five yards. There were way too 430 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: many of those, So I'm curious. I shouldn't say it's 431 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 3: not anxious. I'm curious to see how they fix that. 432 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: Because it's one thing to give up the four yards 433 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 3: per carry, the four and a half yards per carry. 434 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 3: That doesn't look great. The problem is all of those 435 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: explosive runs, which negate the philosophy of no explosive plays 436 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 3: in the passing game. Don't let the ball get over 437 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 3: your head. Well, it doesn't matter if the running back 438 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: gets to the edge and rips one off like Pierce 439 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: did for seventy five yards in a game that's getting 440 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: away from you. We went through it, you know, the 441 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: punt punt fumble, you're up twenty seven to seven. It's 442 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: a twenty seven to twenty four game, and Houston's got 443 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: the ball in the fourth quarter. That's what they were 444 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 3: faced with before they scored a touchdown in their last 445 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: possession to go up thirty four to twenty four. So 446 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 3: that's something I'm anxious to see again. There I am 447 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: with anxious curious to see how they adjust and that 448 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: that could be. I know I defended them when it 449 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: came up the other day. But maybe that's why Arit 450 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 3: Kendricks is here and Drew trankwill is not here. That's 451 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: his responsibility as the play caller or the man that's 452 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: relaying the play calls and making sure everybody gets set 453 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 3: up in their right spots. That then perhaps the idea 454 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: is that Eric Kendris can do a better job of that. 455 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 3: To prevent, to make sure the edge is set, to 456 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: make sure the linebackers are in their lanes, to make 457 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: sure the corners know where they're supposed to be, and 458 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 3: to get corners that can tackle to get corners that 459 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: can make those tackles. Far too often we saw safeties 460 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 3: and corners. It's one of the big issues with JT. 461 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: Woods last year. There were a couple runs that were 462 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 3: on him when he was out there, just bad angles 463 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: or misdiagnosed. Kenneth Murray, I know, had some serious issues 464 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: in diagnosing runs and trying to figure out where he 465 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 3: was supposed to be. And that's probably why I think 466 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 3: of all the issues, my guess is that's probably number 467 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: one on the list of why that fifty year option 468 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: was not picked up. Is he really struggled to find 469 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: the right lane and really struggled to diagnose run and 470 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: get that first step and not be a step slow, 471 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 3: but be a step quick and trying to make those plays. 472 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: Bunny, we've routinely said this, it takes all three levels 473 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: to stop the run, and you've routinely said this, Joey 474 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: Bosa is perhaps the best all around defensive end of football. 475 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: Do you think that Damian Pierce seventy five yard run 476 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: happens if Bosa's on the field, or you know some 477 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: of these like huge runs throughout the course here where 478 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 2: Joey wasn't on the field, So right. 479 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: I think that that's going to make a big difference too. 480 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: And it's it's very easy to say it's it's you know, 481 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 2: call it an excuse, Oh, Joey wasn't on the field, 482 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: but it's true. Joey was not on the field for 483 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: a lot of these big runs throughout the course of 484 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: the season. 485 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 3: And Joey, it's a great point, Chris's they ran right 486 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 3: at Kyle van Noy for all of the celebration we 487 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: had of Kyle, and he really came along toward the 488 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: end of the year. And his sack numbers and his 489 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: past his pressure numbers, he was a busy against the 490 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: run for a good stretch. And look, he was playing 491 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: a position that he didn't think he was going to play. 492 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: And there's a lot of rules. Lindsay brought this up 493 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 3: last week. It'd say, very complicated defense. There are a 494 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: lot of rules for what you're supposed to do. And 495 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: we know even the first year that Brandon Staley was 496 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: your joy was not entirely comfortable. He was not comfortable 497 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: with this defense and he was not happy, and you know, 498 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: and then he settled in and he figured out, and 499 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 3: he got a lot more comfortable and got into that 500 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: rhythm and so you're you're absolutely right, because I know 501 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 3: I've said it on the podcast before, but you know, 502 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 3: I remember listening to when my daughter was playing lacrosse. 503 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 3: They would say, where's the Cheetoh and that was the 504 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 3: name of the person that they were going to take 505 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 3: advantage of. Okay, that person can't play offense. We could 506 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 3: ignore them, so we can double and triple over here, 507 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 3: or you know, hey, there's the Cheetoh on defense. That's 508 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 3: where you're attacking every time. And it's every sport is 509 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 3: exactly the same way, you know, whatever you want to 510 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: call it. The cheetoh or that's what they're looking for. 511 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: And they ran right at Kenneth Murray, and they ran 512 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 3: right at Kyle van Noy repeatedly, and that's all it takes. 513 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 3: It's just like an offensive line. You could have the 514 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: best left tackle in the world, but if your right 515 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: tackle is not league average or at least serviceable, you're host. 516 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 3: You are completely hosed. We saw it in that first 517 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: game that Forrest Serel got into nothing against him. He 518 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: just wasn't. He's got a lot better through the course 519 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: of the year, and that's why they brought him back 520 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: because he's a developmental prospect. He's got to continue to develop. 521 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: And they just came ran right over him, ran right 522 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 3: over him the entire game. That's what they'll do. So 523 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 3: that's where the whole Bosa being on the field, along 524 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 3: with Khalil Mack, who is probably the best run edge 525 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 3: defender in the league. Khalil Mack is exceptional at defending 526 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 3: the run as an edge player. Jadavian Clowney another one 527 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 3: exceptional at defending the run as an edge player, Joey Bosas. 528 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 3: So when you have two of the best we can 529 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 3: set the edge and you're not getting around us guys, 530 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: then that certainly helps out a lot more. 531 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: A couple of other guys I want to mention. We'll 532 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: move on. 533 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: Morgan Fox had twelve starts last year, really picked this 534 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: defense up when they needed it. Towards the end of 535 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: the year, he had six and a half sacks career high. 536 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: Four came in the last five games. And these two 537 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: rookies I want to talk about too. Money Tully to 538 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: below two from USC. He's only twenty years old. The 539 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: coaches say he's wise beyond his years. Thirteen and a 540 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: half sacks at USC last year, twenty two tackles for 541 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: loss and your buddy Lance zero line rare a lineman 542 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: versatility for every defensive front. That's music that should be 543 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: music to Chargers fanciers. He can play across the line. 544 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: He's another guy who I think will be that third 545 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: or fourth edge rusher but also provide help up front. 546 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: And then Diane Henley, this is a guy who maybe 547 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: is a little bit rang because he hasn't played the 548 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: linebacker position that many years, but he's all over the 549 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: field and this could be another player who you see 550 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: more often than not as far as the linebacking position 551 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: and that unit is concerned money. Do you think it's 552 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: a little thin behind Kendricks and Murray with with Henley 553 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: there as a rookie and you know, I know Amon's there, 554 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: and you know Nick Neeman didn't really get much run 555 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: on defense last year. He's been great on special teams. 556 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: But it could be a position where I think they 557 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: could add a guy. 558 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: It's it's it's a non premium position in this In 559 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 3: this defense, a lot of times there's only one guy 560 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: out there and it's the extra. They're playing a lot 561 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: of dime. They're playing that dollar, you know, safety role. 562 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 3: So That's why it doesn't concern me as much. What 563 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 3: really it's it's really going to come down to how 564 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 3: good is Kendricks, how how good is he going to play? 565 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: And in the hope that that Kenneth Murray can we 566 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: say it all the time, can live up to what 567 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: we know capable of doing physically and athletically. He's a 568 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: complete freak of a physical football player. It's just trying 569 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: and maybe that's where the Eric Kendrick's decision came in 570 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: as well, just communication and making sure that Kenneth is 571 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 3: is in the best spot to have him succeed. So 572 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 3: that's I'm with you. I think Dan can could end 573 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,239 Speaker 3: an absolutely could absolutely make an impact. He is he, 574 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: like you said, just started from Nevada to Washington State 575 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: and moving to the linebacker position, and just how little 576 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 3: time he had at that position to the impact that 577 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 3: he made suggests that, yes, this is an ascending player, 578 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: someone who is gifted athletically, physically, plays with a butt 579 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: ton of energy and an aggressiveness and violence and probably 580 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: just needs to learn the position. And again going to 581 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 3: what we've said repeatedly, it's a good coaching staff. They 582 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: develop players very well, so certainly he's have to play. 583 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: I would assume. 584 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: I think Nick Neeman's been on the team long enough 585 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: for us to know he's one of the best special 586 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: teams players in the league. Maybe not a linebacker that 587 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 3: you want out there a whole lot. Same thing with Aimen, 588 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: great special teams player, not quite sure he's a rotational player. 589 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: So Dan's the latest person that that's gonna try to 590 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: fill in at that depth. Tully Polo two is Twey 591 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 3: Polo two is the more important one. He's got to 592 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: be the third edge rusher and he's got to be effective. 593 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 3: It's what they thought Chris Rump was gonna be last 594 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: year and just didn't quite materialize. Again. Exceptional special teams player, 595 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 3: solid give you give, give your starter a breather. Maybe 596 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 3: plays a series, maybe half a series, couple plays Tooley's 597 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: got to be that guy that can can play a hole, 598 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: can play multiple series. Hey, this is your series in 599 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: the first quarter, this is in the first half. Here's 600 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 3: your series in the second half. You're gonna Gi Khalil 601 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 3: a blow. Here, You're gonna give Joey a blow there. 602 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: You need to be effective, so that's Hey, we're gonna 603 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: kick Joey inside and you're gonna play outside of him. 604 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: We're gonna put you both on the same side of 605 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: the like, that's what Tuley, That's what Tooley's got to be. Yep, 606 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: So that's to me, that's the much more important one. 607 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you and you know ed Morgan Fox 608 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: that mix who was kind of you know, he can 609 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: he can. 610 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: You can move him around. 611 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: Like I said, six and a half sacks last year. 612 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: The secondary money we've talked I think maybe the most 613 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: of every all three levels of the defense. We talked 614 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 2: about the secondary of the most because of the intrigue 615 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 2: behind J. C. Jackson being ready for training camp and 616 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: potentially for the beginning of the season, the way I 617 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: Sante Samuel closed the year, especially in Jacksonville with there's 618 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: three interceptions. What Derwin's capable of when he actually has 619 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: healthy bodies around him, how you can move him around? 620 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: Is there anything else? J? T. 621 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 2: Woods obviously is another guy we've talked about who has 622 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: to step up. Jalil I thought was great breaking down 623 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: Alohi Gilman a few weeks ago and just what al 624 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: he brings to the secondary, his steady presence. Is there 625 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: anything else Michael Davis, any other players that you're looking 626 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: forward to seeing that maybe can help in terms of depth. 627 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: You know, obviously we've mentioned the name Bryce Callahan and 628 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: John Johnson, two guys who are still out there. Perhaps 629 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: they get signed by the Chargers at some point. 630 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: I think Jaw's going to be that guy, the depth guy. 631 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 3: You know. Ultimately it comes down to the health of 632 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: jac Jackson, and it feels like he's going to be ready. 633 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 3: That Jac is going to be ready, and that's going 634 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 3: to help a lot having him, and especially if he's 635 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 3: another if he's actually comfortable in the system, or if 636 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: the system can be adjusted to take advantage of his 637 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 3: strengths and not ask him to change his stripes and 638 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: just stick him on. Someone say that's your guy here 639 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 3: at week one, JC, you got Tyreek Hill, just stick 640 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: get up on the line, physically punish him and let's go. 641 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: It's a big ask, but you know what I'm getting at, 642 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: Like that's so anxious to see or is he more 643 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: comfortable and he now is comfortable with the rules and 644 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: all the different things he's got to adjust to in 645 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 3: a system that he's not used to playing so in 646 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 3: the secondary and I just mention that because of Jossier Taylor. Right, So, 647 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 3: now if you want to get physical in that slot. 648 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 3: Now you're talking about three really big corners going back 649 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 3: to that that rush defense. If then the nickel you 650 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 3: got Joss here in his size and Mikey Davis on 651 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 3: one one side and j. C. Jackson on the other, 652 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 3: you've got three really big corners that can tackle and 653 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: that can help change the calculus of that run defense 654 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 3: and being effective. And I think outside of that, I'm 655 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 3: just gonna bring up two lee again because just in 656 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: vision and this is sounds great. Whether or not it's effective, 657 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 3: I can't say, but just imagine on an obvious passing 658 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: down to have Joey Khalil Mack, Joey Bosa, Sebastian, Joseph Day, 659 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 3: Morgan Fox and Tulle Tuipolo two. That's what's That's what's 660 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 3: on that line. To me, that's what Brandon Staley is envisioning. 661 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: And by the way, behind them, you've got Eric Hendricks, 662 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 3: Derwin James, j C. Jackson, Mikey Davis. Like that's what 663 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 3: we're talking about. When this team can be healthy, when 664 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: you have that kind of talent on the defensive line, 665 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 3: that's going to create pressure that in turn creates opportunities 666 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 3: for JC and Derwin and Mikey to create turnovers. Eric Kendricks, 667 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 3: who's got good hands and has interceptions in his career. 668 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 3: That's what we're talking about. That's how this offense, that's 669 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 3: how this defense is going to make its impact with 670 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 3: pass rush when you have That's why I was really 671 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 3: surprised that Morgan Fox came back. I thought for sure 672 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 3: he was going to have a ton of money out there. 673 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 3: It's hard to find effective pass rushers on the interior 674 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 3: of the line, but that's what you can do. Now 675 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 3: you can stack Morgan Fox and Joey Bosa. You can 676 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 3: stack Bosa and Khalil, you can you can stack boson Tully. 677 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 3: That's where you get your advantage. You can double everybody. 678 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: So it's all about taking advantage of single coverage of 679 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 3: I'm being I've got a one on one. Khalil and 680 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 3: Joey can't both be doubled. If they're on the same side. 681 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 3: One of them's got a one on one. You go 682 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 3: to the other side, chances are they're doubling one of 683 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 3: those two guys. So now you've got one on ones 684 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 3: from Morgan Fox, Sebastian, Joseph Day and Tooley two Polo 685 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 3: two all on one side of the line. Like, that's 686 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 3: that's what we're getting at. 687 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: More options than the playbook. Man. 688 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure Derwin on the edge that was something that 689 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: we would have seen a lot more in twenty twenty 690 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,959 Speaker 2: two headed up in for the injuries, and I agree 691 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: with you Tooley is is probably the one rookie that 692 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: is going to have to produce the most. You know, 693 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: Quentin Johnson, of course we've talked about, but Tuley's going 694 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 2: to have to be that guy. I think on defense, 695 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 2: if they. 696 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 3: Want things a little bit more of a luxury, right, 697 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 3: it's you've got Mike, You've got Keenan. Now they weren't 698 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 3: healthy last year together, but let's just project health. You know, 699 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 3: project these guys are going to be healthy for the 700 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 3: majority of the season and not miss eight or ten games. 701 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 3: And that's a luxury. You're fine. If you've got Josh 702 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 3: Palmer and Mike Williams and Keenan Allen with Justin Herbert 703 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 3: throwing the ball, you're gonna be fine. Quentin Johnson, of course, 704 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 3: takes it to another level. If you've got Johnson out there, 705 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 3: with Mike and with Keenan, especially in red zone packages 706 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Good luck, but Tuley's got to 707 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: have that's good. That has to work, has to work. 708 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 2: Money as we get out of here, I think the 709 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 2: biggest takeaway from today's podcast is Kellen Moore's offense is 710 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 2: going to impact Brandon Staley's defense. 711 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: As much as anything. 712 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 2: And you brought up that third quarter fans, I suggest 713 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 2: do what Money was saying, go back and look at 714 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 2: the second half of these games and how they lost 715 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 2: the games and how strong they came out in a 716 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 2: majority of these games against really good teams, and how 717 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: it looks so different in the second half, and what 718 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 2: the what what they have done in the intel that 719 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: they've gathered in an effort to remedy that that's going 720 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 2: to be the difference in twenty twenty three, no doubt. 721 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 3: It's not just fixing the defense, it's not just fixing 722 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 3: the offense. It's getting them to compliment one another. It's 723 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 3: complimentary football. That's what it's all about. Touchdowns, not that 724 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 3: field goals Like I go through. I'll wrap it with this, Chris. 725 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 3: The second half points they averaged eight points, sixteen points 726 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 3: per day, twenty eighth in the league. The only teams 727 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 3: that were worse. Think about these offenses Tennessee, the Rams, 728 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh and Denver. Those were terrible offenses last I mean 729 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 3: terrible offenses last year. The Rams, it was a complete 730 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 3: loss with everybody getting hurt, including Matthew Stafford. Tennessee was 731 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 3: a complete failure of an offense. Remember they had Malik 732 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 3: Willis out there. They could not run the ball, they 733 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 3: got rid of aj Brown had zero, didn't even have 734 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 3: a number three wide receiver out there, let alone a 735 00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 3: two or a one. Pittsburgh was still playing just protect 736 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 3: the ball, don't get into trouble, Kennedy, dink and dunk, 737 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 3: and let's let our defense try to win us some 738 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 3: games to get into the tournament. And of course Denver, 739 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 3: we know was historically bad considering how dominant their defense was. 740 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 3: So that's how bad the second halves were for the 741 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: Chargers and why they need to be so much better 742 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 3: in that third quarter, second quarter eleven point three points 743 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 3: per game, or points per quarter eleven point three, third 744 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 3: quarter two point nine. It's just that's it. 745 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: It's all right there. 746 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, hey, we hope we're bringing you good content 747 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 2: during the Dog Days. If you're listening to the podcast 748 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 2: on June twenty ninth, you're a diehard Charger than a weirdo. Yeah, yeah, 749 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 2: and we appreciate you, you weirdos. 750 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: I love the weirdos. Chargers Weekly. Weird that's what we say, Yeah, exactly. 751 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 2: Hey, we couldn't resist talking about Kellen Moore and the 752 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 2: Chargers offense on the Defense podcast. We'll talk about Kellen 753 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,959 Speaker 2: Moore in the offense next week and really dive into 754 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 2: what Kellen Moore is all about and all the weapons 755 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,280 Speaker 2: that he has at his disposal with Justin Herbert at the. 756 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: Trolls for bat Money Smith, I'm Chris Hayry. 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