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Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff you missed in history class from house

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Speaker 1: works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: to bling the Druk reboarding and I'm fared out, and

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Speaker 1: we're picking back up here again with our discussion of

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Speaker 1: one of our most requested subjects, Nicola Tesla, an engineer

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Speaker 1: and an inventor. Tesla's perhaps best known for creating a

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Speaker 1: system for delivering electricity using alternating current, a method that

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Speaker 1: is still used today. And we talked a little bit

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Speaker 1: about the difference between alternating current and direct current and

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Speaker 1: their advantages and disadvantages in part one of this podcast.

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Speaker 1: And Tesla's preferred alternating current was capable of distributing electricity

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Speaker 1: across greater distances than direct current, and he believed that

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Speaker 1: it had the potential to be used for more than

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Speaker 1: just lighting. But he had some trouble getting support, both

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Speaker 1: financial and otherwise for his ideas, at least at first. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so in the last episode we talked about how

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Speaker 1: he came to America, how he approached Edison, armed with

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Speaker 1: a recommendation letter from his old boss, Charles Bachelor. The

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Speaker 1: letter just said, quote, my dear Edison, I know two

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Speaker 1: great men, and you are one of them. The other

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Speaker 1: is this young man. It's a pretty great recommendation. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Even though Edison, who was a firm believer that direct

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Speaker 1: current was not the way to go, shot Tesla down

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Speaker 1: on his alternating current ideas on that front, he must

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Speaker 1: have agreed with Bachelor's assessment to some degree because he

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Speaker 1: did hire Tesla to work for his power company when

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Speaker 1: we left off with the story, though Tesla had quit

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Speaker 1: working for Edison after just a few months because of

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Speaker 1: their personal differences and a little disagreement over money. Tesla

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Speaker 1: wanted to strike out on his own at this point

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Speaker 1: and develop his own ideas, but when we saw him last,

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Speaker 1: his first attempt to do so hadn't worked out so well,

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Speaker 1: and he was stuck doing manual labor to survive. So

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Speaker 1: Tesla may have been down in the dumps, but he

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Speaker 1: stuck fast to his ideas about alternating current and kept

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Speaker 1: on trying to get financial backing to make them a reality,

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Speaker 1: And in eighteen eighty seven he did manage to attract

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Speaker 1: the attention of two investors, Alfred Brown of the Western

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Speaker 1: Union Company and Charles Peck, who was an attorney. But

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Speaker 1: according to that American Heritage article by Bernard Carlson that

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Speaker 1: we mentioned in the Laugh podcast. All Tesla had to

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Speaker 1: show them initially was this really crude version of the

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Speaker 1: motor he had designed back when he was in Europe,

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Speaker 1: and it was basically a shoe polished him that would

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Speaker 1: spin around in a big donut shaped coil. So Brown impact,

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Speaker 1: they come and look at this creation of of Tesla's

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Speaker 1: and they were kind of skeptical of the whole thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So to make believers of them, Tesla devised a little

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Speaker 1: Christopher Columbus. So, as the story goes, Columbus scott Queen

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Speaker 1: Isabella to finance his journey by challenging members of her

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Speaker 1: court to balance an egg on one end, And of

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Speaker 1: course several people tried and they couldn't do it. So

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Speaker 1: then Columbus up and he made the egg stand up

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Speaker 1: by gently cracking the shell on one end. Queen Isabella

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Speaker 1: was so impressed by his resourceful solution that she gave

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Speaker 1: him the funds that he needed. So Tesla asked Brown

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Speaker 1: and Peck, who knew of this legend, He said, if

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Speaker 1: applied alternating current to that coil, the egg not only

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Speaker 1: And Brown and Peck were so impressed that they agreed

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Speaker 1: to back his work. So with their help, Tesla was

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Speaker 1: induction motor. And the problem with alternating current systems before

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Speaker 1: seven more patents for a complete alternating current system based

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Speaker 1: According to the article by Ronald Bailey in American History,

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Speaker 1: negotiate this deal, and the deal is slightly different depending

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Speaker 1: an aside, a little side note here, they didn't really

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Speaker 1: they also disagreed with Tesla over what the motors frequency

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Speaker 1: But this was where the full on current war really

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Speaker 1: But Edison made his biggest point August six when Brown

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Speaker 1: Despite these negative associations, though, team Westinghouse and Tesla started

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Speaker 1: but he sent these volts through his body to prove

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