1 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans, 2 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: celebrating seventy seven years of providing Tennesseeans with high quality 3 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: health coverage at affordable prices. Visit FBHP dot com today 4 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: to learn about their history in Tennessee and to get 5 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: a quote. That's FBHP dot com Glad to have you 6 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: with us. I'm Mike Keith. This is Jakwan Jackson, rookie 7 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: to Lane ATM. Let's get it. How you doing automatic 8 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: touchdown Machine? Yes, sir, who calls you ATM? Back at Tulane. 9 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: You know they made the name of automaticized don I 10 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: always found myself in an enzoon, So you know, once 11 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: they got that name and it started going, I was 12 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: just excited about it and I just took it along 13 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: with it and ran with it. 14 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: Nice. That's pretty big. You know, Pinnacle Financial Partners may 15 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: be interested in working with you. They're the team bank, 16 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: so that maybe that would be nice. Maybe Jakwan Jackson 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: going through the ATM because he is the automatic I 18 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: like that, Yes, sir, all right, so we we love 19 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: Taj Spears. You have to know that. And so we 20 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: got to get into some TAJ Spears stuff right off 21 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: the bat here. Yeah, you were roommates at Too Lane. Yes, sir, 22 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: what's the worst thing about having Taj Spears as a roommate? 23 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: The worst thing? Yeah? What annoyed you? 24 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: Nothing? Really? 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: Really? 26 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 2: It was always exciting, you know. He always a person 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: just to have around you, to uplift you, no matter what. 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: If he's down, I'm down, we both pick each other up. 29 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: So nothing annoyed you. 30 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: Nothing. 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: He didn't like leave peanut butter on the counter, not 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: pick up his laundry. He was as well, he was 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: raised well, yes, sir, he's a lot of fun. Is 34 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: he always a lot of fun? I mean, it's always 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: How did you guys meet? I pass said? 36 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: We played together seven on seven verse and when it 37 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: was in high school. I last year a senior, we 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: played in the Southeastern Tournament seven on seven and they 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: beat us to get to the championship, which they they 40 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: won a championship. And then later weeks later, you know, 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: we went on to college and we both saw each 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: other again for the first time, his dad and my 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 2: dad and my mom and his and his mom was there, 44 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: you know, just helping them move in. And once we 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: got into the park that the dorm rooms and stuff 46 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: it was just I seen Taja and from that day 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: on we became friends. You know, we were a relationship 48 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: to where I learned what happened in his background and 49 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: then what happened to me. 50 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: So he was at your draft party. Did you think 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: there was a chance you were going to the Titans? 52 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: Did he think there was a chance you were going 53 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: to the Titans? 54 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: You know, you always got an opinion where you where 55 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: you would like to go and where you want to 56 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: go or where what team wants. 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: You to go. 58 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: You know, like the whole process of me talked to 59 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: a different teams. You know, I never talked to the 60 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: Titans that much. You know, you know they type came 61 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: down to the Pro Day and had watched me work 62 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: out with the Pro Day and the other guys at Tulane. 63 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: You know. 64 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: But the exciting part about it is that it would 65 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: be like once a week that I talked to Taj 66 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: Dad and he'd be like, man, you're gonna be a Titan, 67 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 2: Like he spoke it to existence, you know, he manifested 68 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: and and and when it happened, I just looked at him. 69 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 2: When I first I looked at Taj that my family 70 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: and I looked at him, and he was like and 71 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: like I told you so, you know, but it's exciting 72 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: to be here, you know, just not even just TAIJ, 73 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: just to get around all the Vets and you know, 74 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: Coach Callahan and the other coaches and GM and my 75 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: sister GM and the owner, just to meet them and 76 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: just the great culture they building around here. You know, 77 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: that's the biggest thing. 78 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So tight Tober the receiver coach, kind of a 79 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: legendary receiver coach. You've been in the league for a 80 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: long time. He's a Louisiana guy. Yeah, yes, sir, so LSU. 81 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: He was at Monroe, he was at Lafayette. Wasn't it 82 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: too late? But basically everywhere else or so it seems. 83 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: Do you already have a rapport from that Louisiana background. 84 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: You can say yes, you know him as you say, 85 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: he was at the one that I knew about. I 86 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: didn't know about Monroe, but I know about the the 87 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: Dead Valley. 88 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: You know. 89 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: He showed us yesterday that I said, yeah, Death Valley, 90 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: and he played there at LSU. Had a great career, 91 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: you know, he coached a lot of athletes and professional level. 92 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: To Odell Beckham, to an Kwam Bolden to you know, 93 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: DJ Moore, Dunnell Mooney to, et cetera, Wes Welker. 94 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: You know. 95 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: So his resume is look good on paper, you know, 96 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: and on the field you can see now he got 97 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: a lot of other guys that he's coaching too. And 98 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: the biggest thing with me is just coming in the 99 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: receiver room with a lot of guys. And you know, 100 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: you got Kelvin Reridlely, got d Hop and you know 101 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: you just got Tyler Board and you know you got 102 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: Treylon Burke and et cetera. You got Mason, and you 103 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: got Kyle Phillips and then you got Kurias Jackson. You know, 104 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: it goes down the line. So it's it's a lot 105 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: for me and other guys to to to push each 106 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: other to be great. 107 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: You have eight siblings, yes, sir, five sisters, three brothers. Right, 108 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: where do you rank in terms of age within the 109 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: nine third oldest third? So okay, so it goes from 110 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: age what to what? 111 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: Right now, I'll probably say thirty six to twelve or thirteen? 112 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: Oh wow, So you like being a big brother then. 113 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. I make sure they're straight. 114 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean you're a guy who's done it 115 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: the right way. And that's what everybody too, Lane said. 116 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: This is a guy who's who's been the kind of 117 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: guy you want to be around, not just as a 118 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: football player, but as a human. Big does it come 119 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: from that big family structure? Yeah? 120 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: For sure. You know my great grandmother, she's one hundred 121 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: and four right now, I was still living to this day. 122 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: You know, she she built a foundation on my mom's side, 123 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: and you know, on my dad's side, my dad built 124 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: a foundation. You know. So me growing up, I live 125 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: with my grandmother until I was in third grade, and 126 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 2: then I moved with my dad from third grade to 127 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: high school. You know, my mom and my mom has 128 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: always had a great relationship, but she was living outside 129 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: of the school district, so I couldn't stay with it 130 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: because if I would have did, it would have had 131 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: caused trouble. I got you for you know how that go. 132 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: But you know I talked to my mom and Da 133 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: each and every day, so that. 134 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: Was the biggest All right, ed Reed is your uncle? 135 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's it. 136 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Famer Edrid Yes, by the way, 137 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: he drove us crazy, But that's another story. What have 138 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: you been able to take from Uncle ed Reed into 139 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: this experience becoming a pro football player. 140 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: First of all, you know, just being a business person, 141 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: you know, handling everything right. You know, I prepare myself 142 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: well as you said that when once I got into 143 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: to college my freshman year, I know how to be 144 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: a pro already, you know, to being on time, taking 145 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: those doing the right thing, being in the right spot, 146 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: and just taking people under my wing and just being 147 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: the leader, you know. And he was as you said, 148 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: he was a great player on the football field, but 149 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: not on the field, but off the field. You know, 150 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: he did things in the community to help the kids, 151 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: to impact the kids, you know, and as growing up 152 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: just watching what he did and how he get back 153 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: to the community. So he give a camp each summer 154 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: back in and that's Saint Rose, Louisiana, just to get 155 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: back to the kids, you know. And the biggest thing 156 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: that I do after every game, if it was a 157 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: win loser draw, you know, I clean up the locker 158 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 2: room because I think about it, if that was my 159 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: family being a janitor to come back and pick up 160 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: behind grown men, it wouldn't be right, you know. I 161 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: wouldn't want my my grandma picking up new dirty draws 162 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: or dirty towels of the grown men having in the 163 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: locker room, you know. So I took the ownership of 164 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: doing that and making sure the locker room was cleaning 165 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: because it just that's how you do one thing, That's 166 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: how you do everything. 167 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: So every detail it is important to Jakwan Jackson for sure. Yeah. 168 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: Talk me through Darius Raynard and the relationship with him. 169 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: You know, we we haven't returned to punt for a 170 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: touchdown since Darius Raynard was here. And I read in 171 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: the bio that the team put out that you talk 172 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: to him weekly. Yes, sir, how is that relationship a 173 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: big part of your life? 174 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: I get on to the other Poe when you say 175 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: in the relationship with desrah No, you know, we lived 176 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: in the Saint Chele's Parish where he lived right around 177 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: the corner. His mom and dad lived on Estate and 178 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: I live on Killing Street, so it was like a 179 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: two minute drive to my house to his house where 180 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: he grew up at, you know, and then we went 181 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: to the same high school on the high school he 182 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: played in three when he went to the state championship 183 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: and won when they was playing against Leonard for Nett 184 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: and them when he for the Saint Oh. You know, 185 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: so as I got older and just got into college, 186 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: you know, at that time, after he played for the Titans. 187 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: The year I was in high school, he played for 188 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears, and he always come back and visits us, 189 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: and he just built a relationship on from there, you know. 190 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: And once he found out that I got drafted to 191 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans, he called me and that was the 192 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: first thing. The first thing he said, I bet you 193 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: ain't gonna break my record. And he started sending me 194 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: the records and everything I see. And guess what, when 195 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 2: I found out the records, I'm gonna break it. 196 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: So he ran back two in one game and that's 197 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: the last time. Yeah. I mean, he had some great 198 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: special teams moments for this team. Speaking of big moments, 199 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: is the eighty seven yard touchdown catch in the Cotton 200 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: Bowl against USC Your signature played from tu lane. 201 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that, really, nah, I wouldn't say that. 202 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's it was exciting to to help the team. 203 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: You know. 204 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: The biggest thing was I try not to get stuck 205 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: up on what I did, you know, and how I 206 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: did it. You know, I just want to make sure 207 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: that the team right. You know, I'm not a guy 208 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 2: to worry about eight and seven yard eighty seven years, 209 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: eighty seven yards. You gotta think about it. Tija had 210 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty one yards, you know. Yeah, Duce 211 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: Wasser receiving me a good catch to put us in 212 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: the in the reizone to go in overtime to to 213 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: win the game. You know, Alex Bodman called the winning touchdown. 214 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: You know, Michael Pratt got the first down to get 215 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: us to the the catch Juice Watch made, you know. 216 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: So it all plays into our model was waning though 217 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: and just doing everything like one percent and worry about 218 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: the man that to the next of the right and. 219 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: The left for you. 220 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: So that was the biggest thing. Try not to put 221 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 2: I put the team before me, you know what I mean. 222 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: Devin Hester is your guy. Yeah, you watch Devin Hester 223 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: highlights before every game? Yes, sir, why Devin Hester? Why 224 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: is that a person that you focus on? 225 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: You know, like once you playing football and just you 226 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: always say who you put your game as you know, 227 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: as a receiver is different, a different guy and as 228 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: a part returner is is Devin Hester? You know what 229 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: he did at the Mari Miami and Hurricanes and when 230 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: he came went to Chicago Bears, and you know, he 231 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: made history fourteen part returns, six kick returns, you know, 232 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: twenty total all together, and the Hall of Fame of 233 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: doing what he did, just but just seeing what he 234 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: did and just the process, the way he moves and 235 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: just the way he took it as a game. And 236 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 2: not even just him, you know, still he had Jacoba Jones. 237 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: You know he was a good returner, but I probably 238 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: say Devin Hester is my favorite and the way he 239 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: did everything and my goal list the one day just 240 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: sit down and talk to him and see what he's 241 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: seen and what made him to be the elite returner 242 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: that he was. 243 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: And that time will come. 244 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not rushing it. You know. Sure, guy 245 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: work in mysterious ways, so you know, when the time 246 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: is right, the guy would make it happen. 247 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: But you're part of that fraternity. Now you're in the NFL. 248 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: Have you just stopped for a moment and thought, I 249 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: am the top part of the one percent of all 250 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: football players who've most will never make it here. You're here, yes, so. 251 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: They haven't hit me yet, but it will eventually, you know. 252 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you're in the same league Devin Hester once 253 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: you made it. And I think about what you're saying 254 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: about Devin Hester, and it strikes me that your uncle 255 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: Ed Reed was the same sort of a guy with 256 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. Is that when you get 257 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: your hands on the football, you not only want to 258 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: run by guys, You want to make guys miss make 259 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: things happen with the football. Is that electric nature what 260 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: you want to be known for as a football player. 261 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: I just want to be a known Jaquan Jackson. You know, 262 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 2: it's not about uh, he can do a departmentary, he 263 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: can do kickuitary, he can do received. I'll just be 264 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: one know jea Kwan Jackson and a guy who's like 265 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: everything positive about me. You know, I don't want it 266 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 2: to be like just a one like you said eighty 267 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: seven year od Touchdow. I don't be known for that, 268 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: you know. I just want to be known for my 269 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: help in the community. 270 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: You know. 271 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: I hope with the organization or the culture, help the team, 272 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: you know, whatever in the asset of that. You know, 273 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: I'm always about how can I make everybody else around 274 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: me better? 275 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: That's good stuff. Thank you so much for the time 276 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: thank you. Stay right there for a second. Had a 277 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: chance to talk with a former Titan, Steve Jackson, at 278 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: practice the other day. You remember he was on the 279 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: ninety nine team and was a super player in the 280 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: secondary coached here in sixteen and seventeen, and now he's 281 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: back as the secondary safety coach. Here's my chat from 282 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: earlier this week with Stevie jack Steve Jackson. Steve Jackson 283 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: listed as secondary slash safeties. So is this the type 284 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: of job where you're doing the same sort of role 285 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: as a coach that you did for us in nine 286 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: years as a player, where you're sort of wherever you 287 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: need to be at whatever time always. 288 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 3: I mean, that's kind of the responsibility of a coach. 289 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: You have to be ready to adjust anything comes up, 290 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: you have to be ready to coach it. And I 291 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: just appreciate the opportunity, you know, they gave me to 292 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: be able to take what I've learned over the years 293 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: and give it to these players. 294 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: What's it like working with Chris Harris and Dinard Wilson. Awesome? Awesome? 295 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 3: You know, we all speak the same language, we have 296 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: the same motivations, we have the same end results in mind. 297 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: Every time something comes in, comes up. 298 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: We all speak the same like we finish each other. 299 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: Since is actually you have five safeties that you've been 300 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: working with so far. Obviously more to come, but from 301 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: what you've seen out of this group, anything jump out 302 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: so far? 303 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 3: Well, everything they're worth, ethic, the way they stick together, 304 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: the way they communicate, They're just all continuing to grow 305 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: every day. It's been a real pleasure to coach these 306 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: guys and watch them grow. What's the most exciting part 307 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 3: of the upside the possibilities with a maighty Hooker at 308 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: the safety position. 309 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: It's all upside. 310 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: I mean, with all of these guys, it's all upside. 311 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: They're all young, they're all hard workers, they're all smart, 312 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: and they're all tough. I mean, it gives us the 313 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: opportunity to take it as far as we want to. 314 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: The ball was something that you always played very well 315 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: when you were here as an assistant coach. Kevin Byrd 316 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: had his eight interception season. Are there things that you 317 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: can talk about with Amani Hooker and the rest of 318 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: the group to make them more aware of where the 319 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: football is and obviously possibly taking it away. One word fundamentals. 320 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: Fundamentals You look right, you do right, you know, just 321 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: having their fundamentals, eyes feeding, hands in the right places 322 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: on every snap and the ball finds you. 323 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: Talk to me about Elijah Molden for a second. When 324 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: he was moved to safety last year. I thought, Steve Jackson, 325 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: that was the player that I thought of from the 326 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: eras that physically and in terms of his knowledge and 327 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: his savvy, that was what stuck out to me. Can 328 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: you see some of that, Yeah, but I can see 329 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: it in all the players, but specifically about Elijah. 330 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a very cognitive player. I mean he 331 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: thinks about everything before he does that. He's very instinctive. 332 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: There's a lot of things that he does well, and 333 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: you know, he's kind. 334 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: Of like a jack of all trades and he's. 335 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: Beginning to master all the fundamentals. 336 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: For you, what's the biggest difference in a safety's job 337 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: from the time when you played to to now in 338 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: today's game. 339 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: It's really not much difference. You're you're still the angels 340 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: of the defense anything have. There's nobody behind you but 341 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: the referee, and it's rare that they make tackles and 342 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: get interceptions. So you have to be on point and 343 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: understand that you have to have everybody's back. 344 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: Are there small fundamental things that we're gonna notice in 345 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: safety responsibility in Dennard Wilson's defense in this secondary than 346 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: maybe what we've seen in the past, I hope. 347 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: So. 348 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: Okay, So, so give me a couple examples just to 349 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: be a nice guy. 350 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I mean, our intention every week is 351 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: to our job is to get takeaways, and that's our 352 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: emphasis every time we step on the field. Does it 353 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: happen every play? No, But the intention is to get 354 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: our hands on a lot of balls. Our intention is 355 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: to make our tackles. Our intentions are to make our calls, 356 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: and if we do that consistently, well then we'll be okay. 357 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: How do you improve this group as blitzers? 358 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a good question. It always starts with 359 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: the guys around you. Anybody who ever gets a lot 360 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: of sacks never does it all by themselves. Every blitz 361 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: is designed that there's eleven guys that have a responsibility 362 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: in a job. His job particularly is just one part 363 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: of the eleven, and so if he does his job 364 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: and everybody else does their job, then the sacks will come. 365 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: What are these young players coming in have to do? 366 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: To impress Steve Jackson, to be able to potentially be 367 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: part of the ninety and to be able to have 368 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: a chance to jump in and maybe make a contribute 369 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: to the point that they could be on the fifty three. Well, 370 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: it's not about Steve Jackson. 371 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 3: They have to impress people in the front office. They 372 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: have to impress the head coach, they have to impress 373 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: the coordinator, and most importantly, they have to impress their 374 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: teammates because those are the guys that got to be 375 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: out there and trust them every single play. 376 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: Steve Jackson, let's wrap up with this. You've been going 377 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: seven years. You saw from the start, you came when 378 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: the building opened at Ascension Saint Thomas Sports Park. What's 379 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: sort of the biggest change in the Titans that jumps 380 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: out to Steve Jackson from not only your time as 381 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: a player, but also your two years in twenty sixteen 382 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: and seventeen as an assistant coach here before. 383 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what the whole city most importantly 384 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 3: has changed since when we first got here. You know, 385 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: I think that was one of the good things that 386 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 3: as soon as we became the Titans, our trip to 387 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl kind of energized the whole city. And 388 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 3: you know when we came back, that was our intention. 389 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: To re energize the city. 390 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: And the intention now is to re energize the city 391 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 3: and get back on the winning path. 392 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: Steve Jackson with me there. This is a former safety. 393 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: This is James Williams draft picked from the U from Miami, 394 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: James Williams for Seat Geek. 395 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 4: C GE is the official ticket in partner of the 396 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans. Whether you buying the selling tickets to the 397 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 4: Titans game, to any other live event in Nasville, cig 398 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: is the place to go. C YE the new official 399 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 4: ticket in partner of the Titans. So Titans fans, camp Finn. 400 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here. Your big deal coming out of 401 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: high school, I mean huge deal. I'm gonna read this 402 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: five star prospect by among others, twenty four to seven 403 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: in Rivals, number thirteen ranked overall player in the country. 404 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: By twenty four to seven, Rivals had you number nineteen. 405 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: Several more people had you in the top twenty, and 406 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: you were the number one safety nationally by those two 407 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: organizations twenty four to seven and Rivals and then other 408 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: organizations on three and others had you rated very highly 409 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: as well. What's it like coming out of high school 410 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: and being that well known? I mean not even coming 411 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: out of high school. It started for you when you 412 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: were fifteen. What's that like. 413 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a great experience. It's very competitive, a 414 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 4: very competitive person. Coming out of South Florida was a 415 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: lot of competition, so it brought the best out of 416 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: me and allowed me to be top twenty in the nation. 417 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. So you were always a safety, yeah, 418 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: and then Lance Guidry comes in at Miami and he says, 419 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: you know you're a safety, but we want to get 420 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: you closer to the line of scrimmage. When you started 421 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: playing some linebacker at the U, what did that feel 422 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: like for you? And did you sort of know that's 423 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: what you were going to be on the next level. 424 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 4: I mean it felt very naturally. It can't like like 425 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 4: it came fast, like can say, because gidget came I 426 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 4: know of when got them, But it was it was 427 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 4: a great experience, and I knew it was coming because 428 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 4: of my size and my frame and my intelligence of 429 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: knowing football. So it's kind of like an easy transition 430 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: for me. 431 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, because safeties are like quarterbacks on defense, You see 432 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: the whole thing. You have to know where everybody is. 433 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to move people around so you get 434 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: a real sense of the game, don't you. 435 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I say, I say my knowledge from safety moving 436 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 4: to linebacker could help me in could help the team 437 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 4: that the Titans that drafted me to help us be 438 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 4: a better team overall. So I feel like it helped 439 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 4: me a long run. 440 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: How was the linebacker experience for you at the senior boat. 441 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: I mean, it was great to get around like top 442 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 4: guys as trying to be in a position where I 443 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: want to go. So it was a great experience to 444 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 4: get my feet wet a little bit. You know, I 445 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 4: ain't never that was my first time actually getting coach 446 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: at linebacker. So until some aviance and some clues with me, Yeah, 447 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: I learned a lot there. 448 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: What's been as you've as you've made the move, or 449 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: at least started to make the move from safety to linebacker, 450 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: what's been the main thing that you've learned about how 451 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: the game changes between those two positions. 452 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 4: Everything is faster, like literally everything like feet work, hands placement, 453 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: the plays you went every player, whether it's running pass, 454 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 4: you in the middle of the field, so you got 455 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 4: to get to the ball everywhere you got to go. 456 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 4: So I mean it's a big difference, but it's kind 457 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: of like natural to me because I'm a ball player. 458 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not a scout, but I know what 459 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: I read and what they said is that James Williams 460 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: is better the closer he is to the line of scrimmage, 461 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: which is why people have thought the transition from safety 462 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 1: to linebacker would be so good for you. Do you 463 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: agree with that assessment? And the second part of the 464 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: question is if you if you don't agree with that assessment, why. 465 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 4: I mean, I agree to it because you can you 466 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 4: can an me anywhere. I can play anywhere, well if 467 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 4: you want me to play. But I say, yeah, okay, 468 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: it's great. 469 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: Okay, now here's the one I like the best, though, 470 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: And I know this is true even though I'm not 471 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: a scout. James Williams hits like Mike Tyson. You know 472 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: who Mike Tyson is, right, you're aware of him. It's 473 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: kind of my era. But I think a lot of 474 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: sort of a lot of people know him. Well. I mean, 475 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: you put it on some dudes. I mean you get there, 476 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: you go through people at contact. It's not It's not 477 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: just they're going backwards, they're going sideways and backwards. That 478 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: for all the things, for the one, five, nine, ten, 479 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: the four, six, five forty, the vertical, the broad jump 480 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: and all that seems to me your biggest skill is 481 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: you knock the crap out of people. Have you? Have 482 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: you always been that aggressive? And where do you think 483 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: that ability to hit like that comes from? 484 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like it comes from the heart. 485 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 4: It's gotta be a want to you got one to hit, 486 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 4: you gotta want to love contact. A lot of people 487 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 4: don't like contact, So I'm a person that embraced contact. 488 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 4: I love it, and I like to deliver the hit 489 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 4: instead of getting hit. 490 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: James, make me understand that because the sayings made a 491 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: lot of people don't like contact. I get that. But 492 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: people who really really like contact, like you obviously, Why 493 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: why do you? Why do you like it so much? 494 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 4: I mean it's kind of a reliever for me. Bring 495 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 4: something to the table that you can't coach. You can't 496 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 4: coach contact. You can't coach one to go hit somebody. 497 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 4: So it's like it's already engraved in me. It's like 498 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 4: a tattoo on me. So I'm coming to tattoo people. 499 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: Well, it's fun to watch. I mean, you're the best 500 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: highlight tape of any defensive player I saw this year 501 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: for just sheer fun special teams. You're made for that 502 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: and you have a lot of experience doing that. That's 503 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: obviously where you get to hit some people too. So 504 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: your whole thing is just put me out there. I'll 505 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: go wherever. 506 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to do whatever it takes to make 507 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 4: the teams the Tennessee Titans great. Whatever they want me 508 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 4: to do, I'm willing to do it. I go play 509 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 4: hoole snapper. You want me to. 510 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: Whatever you want me to do it, I'll do it. 511 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 4: I just want to make sure that the team is 512 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 4: great and always pushing in the right direction. 513 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: You're twenty one years old and you've had a really 514 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: an eventful twenty one years, no doubt about it, and 515 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: as that five star, five star, five star prospect, and 516 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: then now you're coming out and you're a seventh round 517 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: pick and you're fighting to change positions and make the club. 518 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: What in your heart prepares you for this moment to 519 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: take on this next challenge playing in the National Football League. 520 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 4: I mean, just willing to come to work every day. 521 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 4: Put my head down and get bather. He's a go 522 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 4: get better one day of two days. It takes time. 523 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 4: Got a brick, Liz, and just want to put my 524 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 4: head down, keep grinding and stay focused. 525 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: Does everybody call you Dub? Yes, yes, yes, that's beautiful. 526 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: It's gotta be weird not wearing twenty though you've worn 527 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: twenty your whole life, right, facts. 528 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 4: I mean I just got to adjust to it. I 529 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 4: mean the number don't make you. You made the number. 530 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: So here's the goal. Put up so many numbers, go 531 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: to so many pro bowls, make all pro and then 532 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: you can buy it off Tony Pollard. That's the fact. Hey, 533 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: love meeting you. It's so thrilled you're here. Thank you 534 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: for taking time. 535 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 4: Thank you. 536 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: That's James Williams, James Dub Williams. Everybody calls him Dub. 537 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: You call him seat geek, yes, whatever he's in. Tighten 538 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: up indeed for James Williams, I bit Keith. Thanks for 539 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: joining us, oh T, Welcome to the Big Show.