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Speaker 1: you and today is Friday, April two. We have the

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Speaker 1: best of the week from Jaguars Broadcasting as always, including

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Speaker 1: Peter King's initial impressions of Urban Meyer, the reaction after

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Speaker 1: Meyer's comments on Trevor Lawrence, plus a look at the

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Speaker 1: seventeenth regular season game. Remember to subscribe to the Official

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Speaker 1: treatment as you always do. Thank you for that biggest

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Speaker 1: news of the week. Urban Meyer on Peter King's podcast

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Speaker 1: early in the week and King asked Meyer if there's

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Speaker 1: any doubt that Jags are taking Trevor Lawrence with the

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick, and Meyer said, quote, I'm certainly

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Speaker 1: publicly that any Jaguars officials said anything close to confirming

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Speaker 1: the number one pick. Peter King joined John Osan on

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Speaker 1: the Ozone podcast this week to break down his conversation

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Speaker 1: with the Jaguars head coach. Just give me your overall

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Speaker 1: impressions of talking to Irban I know how much you

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Speaker 1: had to get into conversation with him. What were your

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Speaker 1: overall impressions. You've talked to a lot of people over

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Speaker 1: He's he's very much drilled down to um, the smallest

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Speaker 1: think one of the things that you've noticed with Urban

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Speaker 1: But you know, his first job, he took over a

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Speaker 1: got answers for everything. And again we'll have to see

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Speaker 1: if those answers are all the right answers, and he

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Speaker 1: the things when I was talking to Jimmy Johnson, I

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Speaker 1: of the things that Jimmy said, basically is that, hey,

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Speaker 1: Urban is not stupid. Urban sees the opportunity in Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: and john when you think about it, even though the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars arguably were the worst team in football last year

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Speaker 1: and their record showed it. Um, how often do you

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Speaker 1: Urban Talk continued on Monday's Jaguars Reporters podcast. Ashlan Solomon,

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Speaker 1: John Osan, Bryan Sexton and I gave our impressions of

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Speaker 1: Meyer's conversation with Peter King and the re action it brought. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Even now now looks even more ridiculous, But a month

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Speaker 1: it seems a very high percentage chance that Irvan came

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Speaker 1: this kid. So let's say that's what's gonna happen. Signs

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Speaker 1: pointing towards the magic eateball all sign yes, that that

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Speaker 1: yes on that one exactly. John Well, no, no no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: Lockman and I got into a discussion about Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: deciding to not attend the NFL Draft and Lugs had

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