1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time, time, luck and load. So 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Michael Berry Show is on the air. Good morning Michael Berry, 3 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: but no, you cannot use my bathroom. Hello, Denver Bunny, 4 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: this is my little Hamilton pastros. What again? And a 5 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: good morning to the tzar. Good morning, Michael Berry. It's 6 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Sean Connery. But you had a little radio show. Pity, 7 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: I washed to find it. Good morning, Michael Berry. I'm 8 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: all jaked up on Mountain dew. Good morning, Michael Berry. 9 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: Good morning, Michael Hello, Hello are you there? Good morning? 10 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: You're Michael Berry. How you learned? Did I read it tomorrow? Money? 11 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: Yes, listen to this. 12 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 1: Good morning, Texas, morning, your car, Good morning Texas. 13 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: My mom is on. We're happy to be here to 14 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: talk about everything. 15 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: Good morning. 16 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: We're not wearing dan. Good morning Texes, Good morning Texas. 17 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: Good morning, Texcess, Good. 18 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: Morning, week go. 19 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: Let's speak gone, damn. 20 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: Good morning. We're going to open the phone lines earlier 21 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: than usual today. The teacher says to little girl, if 22 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: I give you four black cats on Monday day and 23 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: I give you two white cats on Tuesday on Wednesday, 24 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: how many cats do you have? And the little girl 25 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: says seven. And she says, but four plus two is six. 26 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: You do only have six cats? And she said, we 27 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: have one at home. We have one at home. Make seven? 28 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: How does the farmer call his sheep? Hey, you ram on, 29 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: what do you call a wreath made of one hundred 30 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: dollar bills? A wreath of Franklin's. My coworker thought he 31 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: was a light bulb, so my boss sent him home. 32 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: I also went home. I can't work in the dark. Well, 33 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: we've got Dan Patrick and Greg Abbott in a battle 34 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: for who can propose the biggest property tax cut. Exactly. 35 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: It's it's getting ridiculous. Not because I'm opposed to cutting 36 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: property taxes, but what what's happening? Is it being election time? 37 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: We start the so Greg Abbott starts with the we're 38 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: gonna eliminate property taxes, and then they kind of crawfished 39 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: a little bit, said, well, we're gonna eminate property taxes 40 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: on homesteads. Okay, all right, and now Dan Patrick, let 41 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: me see if I have his proposal here. Yes, yes, yes, 42 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: he wants to increase the homestead exemption for school property taxes. Again. Okay, 43 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: all right, that's good. Here is my question. Everyone loves 44 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: to promise to cut property taxes, which is mostly how 45 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: we find how we fund our state government. But no 46 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: one ever proposes cutting spending. The reason is everyone hates 47 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: paying property taxes, but the people on whom you spend 48 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: the money like receiving the money. It's just a redistribution. 49 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: That's what taxes is and always has been. So you're 50 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: taking the money from a homeowner and then you're giving 51 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: it to somebody, either directly welfare, food stamps, contracts, or 52 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: indirectly on things they will use and enjoy. Nobody has 53 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: been able to convince me that they care anything about 54 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: cutting spending. Now you could argue, well, it's all at 55 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: the local level. It's all the school boards. Okay, call 56 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: them out. A lot of these school boards that are increasing, 57 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: these spending is increasing. The spending are in rural and 58 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: suburban districts, and plenty of them are Republican or pretend 59 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: to be. Fact is there's not an increase in the 60 00:05:54,360 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: cost of delivering education commensurate with the expenditure on the 61 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: school districts. I don't conflate a school district and an 62 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: institution that delivers educational services. And the reason for that 63 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: is you don't need anything at the school other than 64 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: the old one room schoolhouse. You don't need all the 65 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: rest of it. You can build it, you can dress 66 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: it up, you can build more of it, but you 67 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: don't need it. So why not have the people who 68 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: use it pay for it? But then again, a society 69 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: who taxes all of the residents to pay for a 70 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: sports stadium that only the sports fans go to can 71 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: get real comfortable with that, real fast, can't they. So 72 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: the idea has always been, we all pay for the schools, 73 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: even if we don't ever have kids, because it's a 74 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: common good. We want our people to be educated. But 75 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: then what happens when the people who end up in 76 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: the supposed education process it's a business now, it's nothing 77 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: educational about it. What happens when those people begin their 78 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: measuring contest. They're pageant based on how much money they 79 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 1: can raise. What happens when people start getting into education, 80 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: which was supposed to be a public service, to make 81 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: more money, And once they got there, then they want 82 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: everybody held hostage that they need to get paid more money. 83 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: But they went into the business knowing the pay was poor, 84 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: and at one point it was it's not any longer. 85 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: You'll never hear a teacher say they make good money, 86 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: but they do hour for hour. It's not to say 87 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: teachers aren't wonderful people, of course, not. Just what they 88 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: do isn't important. Of course would they do it if 89 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: they didn't make as much as they do? How many 90 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: Republicans paid for their pay increases and all the other 91 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: increases in expenditures and are now talking about eliminating property 92 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: taxes because it's election time now? I think this year 93 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go along. You can promise whatever 94 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: he is taken from us far too soon. On this 95 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: day in two thousand and seven, Led Zeppelin played a 96 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: one off show at the O two Arena in London, 97 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: the biggest reunion in rock history. John Bonham's son Jason, 98 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: played drums at the show, which was held by critics 99 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: and fans as triumphant. It was a raging debate among 100 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: our team this morning as to what would have been 101 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: the biggest reunion in history had it occurred, but it 102 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: didn't if the Beatles had gathered again before John Lennon died. 103 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: For instance, there are lots of what ese ramon which 104 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: one is Led Zeppelin? Is he the one that sings? 105 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: Or is he the one that plays the guitar. Uh okay, okay, 106 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: yeah okay. Seven one three nine nine nine, one thousand. 107 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: He's one with the long hair in the real high 108 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: pitched voice that sings is this love? That's him with 109 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: Tony Kataine on the on the Yeah, he's good, he's good, 110 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: He's got long hair him. That's led Zeppelin. I always wonder. 111 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: I wonder if Leed is short for as like Ledner 112 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: or something. Maybe his full name anyway, seven one three 113 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: nine nine nine one thousand seven one three nine nine 114 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: nine when I always wondered because I didn't know if 115 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: it was like van Halen or Santana, where you know 116 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: the lead singer is not the one, Yeah, yeah, Jimmy 117 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: led Zeppelin or Robert Zeed, you know led Zep. I 118 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: didn't know which that was, like a full name or 119 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: or how that how that worked? Martha, good morning, How 120 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: are you, dear. 121 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: I've been missing you. 122 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: I've been missing you. You're ninety two. I need you 123 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: to call more often. 124 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 2: You have more interesting people than me, so. 125 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about that. 126 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: Wanted to start my day with a happy tone and 127 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: see hear your voice. 128 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: Well, you're very sweet. I had I had Mitch Little 129 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: on a few weeks ago. I know, you know, Mitch Little. 130 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: I'm so proud of him. He's gotten so many recognitions recently. 131 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: You know, Ramon just told me that. Ramon told me 132 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: you just had a birthday. 133 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: No, in September. I wrote you email because I couldn't 134 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: get on you weren't having phone calls that day. 135 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: Oh what did I respond? 136 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: Yes, you read my email on that. 137 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, I'm losing my memory. I'm fifty five, Martha. 138 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: Oh well, you've got a lot of catching up to do. 139 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: It's fun. 140 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: What's going on in your world? 141 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: Well, I've decorated my tree yesterday. 142 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. Yes, is there anything in particular that 143 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: you love to hang on there? Or put on there? 144 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: Or do this unique? 145 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: All of my children and great grandchildren, all of the 146 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: things that they've made over the years, I sit and 147 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: look at them and I try to put them together 148 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: so that they notice that I've still kept kept them. 149 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: Oh that's so sweet. I guarantee you that means a 150 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: lot to them. 151 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: Yes, they all want to see. Oh this one I 152 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: gave to you, grand all that. 153 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: Now, how many children do you have? 154 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: Well? I have three, but I lost one of them 155 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: my daughter. So I raised her boys. And then so 156 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: I have twelve great grandchildren. 157 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: Twelve great grandchildren? How many grandchildren? 158 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: Six? 159 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: Okay, so you raised three of those? 160 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: No, I raised two grandchildren. My daughter died. She had 161 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: two boys. 162 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: How old was she when she died? Oh my? Oh my? Okay? 163 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: And how old were her boy? 164 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: Her boys went to Second Baptist. Also, that's how I 165 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 2: knew Mitch Mittle's and his mother. His mother was one 166 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: of my best friends. 167 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: Oh, I see, Okay, he's such a good fellow, he 168 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: really is. 169 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: He's going and when he was growing up, he said 170 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: he wanted to go to Harvard and be the president 171 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 2: of the United States. And I, He'm sorry, been to Harvard. 172 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: So he's on his way to the next one. 173 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he has. He is a very conscienable person. I 174 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: feel like I worry about people like him because I 175 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: know what he's going through and it can burn you out, 176 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: and it often does. But when you go to Austin 177 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: and you are a man of principle and conscience and 178 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: you actually care about the taxpayer and doing what's right 179 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: and just, and you find out that the process doesn't 180 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: operate on that basis, and that that people have in 181 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: most cases compromised their principles. It can really grind you down. 182 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: A lot of people walk away from it. I am glad 183 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: to see that he's staying in there. You know, I 184 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: was worried he was going to run for Attorney General 185 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: because that race is so competitive, and I didn't want 186 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: him to run and no longer be a rep and 187 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: no longer be in public service. But at the last 188 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: minute he chose not to, and I'm glad he did. 189 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: I think he's an important part of the state House. 190 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: There's a couple of them, Steve Toath here in North 191 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: Houston who's now running for Congress, and Mitch Little and 192 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: there are a few more. But you've got some really 193 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: good guys up there, and he's one of them. 194 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: Yes, he's very steady, just keeps his eye right on 195 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: the ball and just keeps going right ahead, and names 196 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: always be like that. 197 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: I think he played ball for somebody, didn't he. 198 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: Well for a second Baptists, But I don't think he went. 199 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: On to Oh okay, okay, I thought I saw a 200 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: picture of him in a uniform that might have been 201 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: You said he went to Harvard, So yeah, okay, Martha 202 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: Tell me what you've done so far this morning? What 203 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: time do you get up? 204 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: Well, like this, But I'm getting ready to feed my 205 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 2: cats and my little dog, and so then I just 206 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: don't move a whole lot until my physical therapist will 207 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: be here in a little while, and we do some 208 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: exercises and go outside and see. I'm a gardener, so 209 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: I like to see what all is growing out there 210 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: and how things have done with this weather. 211 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: What are you worried about? 212 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: Not, oh, I'm not worried about anything. 213 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: No, no, but is there do you have pones or 214 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: tulips or so? 215 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: No? 216 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 4: No, no, no. 217 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: I'm a butterfly person, and so I like to be 218 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: sure them that the pollinators are all blooming so that 219 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: they can feed. And of course most of them are 220 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: gone now because of the weather, but if anything is around, 221 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: it needs to be said. I'd like to be sure 222 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: that they're okay. But I have a son that's going 223 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: to India Friday and then to all Hong Kong on business. 224 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: So I'm getting my friends to pray for him. And 225 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: it's a hard trip. 226 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: So it's a long trip. My friend Chance McLean is 227 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: filming a client in India. He left was today when 228 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: he left yesterday. It was his first trip, and he 229 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: had a thousand questions and I finally just said, Chance, 230 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: I cannot prepare you. It's going to be such a 231 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: shock to your senses in every way, the cacophony of noise, 232 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: the smells, the sounds, the sights, the crowds. I can't 233 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: possibly put it into words. You'll know what I'm saying 234 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: when you're being jostled on the streets, and yeah, you'll 235 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: know it. Martha, You're wonderful. It's so good to hear 236 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: from you, sweetheart. 237 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: Just in here. 238 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: Listening to Michael Berry. I called him this little during 239 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: the break. If he did play ball or Harvard, he 240 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: played defensive lineman. I said, did you play all four years? 241 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: I did? Did you start? He said no, I did not. 242 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: I said, you wish right now that you had started, 243 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: so that you could say that and get the credit 244 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: for it. He said, I would have killed for it. 245 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: Wasn't good enough. I said, well, you went to Harvard 246 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: on a football scholarship. You haven't had to have your 247 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:13,239 Speaker 1: knees replaced. I'd call that a win. I would definitely 248 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: call that a win. I want you to think about something, 249 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: because we're going to open the phone lines, but not yet. 250 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: I want you to think about this and formulate your thought. 251 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: Our team was talking during the break, which is why 252 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: they don't get any work done, because they're constantly circle 253 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: jerking opinions and questions in quizzing each other because this 254 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: is what we do all day. And Jim Mudd asked 255 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: the group, what is your most controversial music opinion that 256 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: goes against popular opinion? Something that you truly believe, don't 257 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: call yet something that you truly believe and other people 258 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: and you know, conventional wisdom would disagree with that. Like 259 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, very few members of the twenty seven Club 260 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: would be considered great today if they hadn't died young, 261 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: or maybe Ringo Starr is a top five drummer. And 262 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: I think, what is this? This is Jim's list, John Bonham, 263 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: Neil Pert, Alex van Halen, Ringo Starr, and Ginger Baker 264 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: or Willie Willie Nelson's version of always on My Mind 265 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: is better than Elvis's or anyway, They've been going back 266 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: and forth with some with some lists. But first I'm 267 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: going to ask you so keep that thought in the 268 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: back of your mind. We'll get to it later. I 269 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: have a friend named Rick Daring I grew up with, 270 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: and he's the one that beat my butt when we 271 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: were twelve, because he and I were catchers for our 272 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: for our rival teams that were the two top teams 273 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: playing for the championship, and he was going to be 274 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: the catcher, starting catcher on the All Star team and 275 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was going to be the backup, which 276 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: meant I was going to have to play a position. 277 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: And I'm a catcher, so or was, and so I 278 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: was kind of sore over it. And he had been, 279 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, kind of saying that he was a better 280 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: catcher than me and mouthing off, which he was, And 281 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: so I decided to confront him, and I decided to 282 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: pull the Scott Freeland trick where I'm gonna punch him 283 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: first and get to get in and early, and then 284 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 1: I win and that'll be that. So I go up 285 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: to him and before the game, and we just have 286 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: our shin guards on and weever our mit, and I 287 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,479 Speaker 1: throw my mitt down and I walk up to him 288 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: and mouth off and I rare back and I hit 289 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: him with everything I've got on his jaw, and as 290 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: I do, I charge him and I hit him with 291 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: my shoulder and I knock him to the ground, and boy, 292 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: this is going great, swimmingly as they say. I proceed 293 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: to get about three more shots in on him and 294 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: it was just making him mad, and he spun me 295 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: over and proceeded to whip my ass before my coach 296 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: could tackle him off of me. And we have laughed 297 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: about that over the years. I mean, we have had 298 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: so much fun with that because I love the guy. 299 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: He's one of my five favorite people from Orange. He's 300 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: created a company that after storms they go in and 301 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: I think that they're public adjusters, and he started his 302 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: own firm and he travels all over the country basically 303 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: chasing storms because that's what their business does. Some of 304 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: you will remember Rick because his son was a sheriff's 305 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: deputy in Orange and he was he was running a 306 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: call and he had a heart attack at like thirty 307 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: one years old and he didn't make it. And I've 308 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: always watched Rick, who's been very public about the grieving 309 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: process and being grateful. But before he was public, we 310 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: were texting about it and I was trying to say 311 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: something that would help him through it. And his faith 312 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: was so strong and his h was so admirable that 313 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: I have drawn upon that when my own brother died, 314 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: when my mother died, and I really grew to admire 315 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: him on a different level from that. Well, Rick was 316 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: not the biggest guy, but he was the toughest guy, 317 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: and he played middle linebacker for those Western Stark teams 318 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: in the mid eighties were the same year I went 319 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: from Western Stark where I started out to Orangefield. But 320 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: I still played ball with those guys baseball, and I 321 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: stayed friends with those guys for life. Jason Lingo, Slade Green, 322 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: Rick Deering, that whole group of guys. Anyway, there was 323 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: a longtime coach in Orange of the Western Stark Mustangs, 324 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: which was a powerhouse football program. His name was Dan Hooks, 325 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: and I posted about him yesterday because he's passed away 326 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: at eighty seven, and I did not realize he'd been 327 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: at channel View before that, and several of you responded 328 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: that Dan Hooks had that Dan Hooks had been one 329 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: of them that had been their bus driver at channel View. 330 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: Have been there, but I remember what he taught, what 331 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: whatever class he taught uh at at channel View, which 332 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: was before he went to Western Start. But Rick wrote 333 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: a tribute to Dan Hooks. He called him Dan Ray. 334 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: Rick's uncle, Cornell was would succeed him, I believe, as 335 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if he was a direct successor, but 336 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: I believe was of the football team, and he was 337 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: a catcher's coach, so he was our coach during the summers. 338 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: We would go there and they would work on work 339 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: with us all summer. And great guy, just a wonderful 340 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: The kind of respect these guys have in a small town, 341 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: you don't I don't know that that many coaches ever 342 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: have that kind of When Dan Hooks walked down the street, 343 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: that man was just respected and admired because of because 344 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: of the role he had in shaping the lives of 345 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: young men. But anyway, Rick wrote, sad Day and Mustang Country. 346 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: That's Western Stark or the Mustangs. Coach Hooks was truly 347 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: one of a kind. As a young boy growing up 348 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: in Orange, Texas, as long as you lived below I ten, 349 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: all you ever dreamed about was wearing the silver hat. 350 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: I can vividly remember a Friday night light standing along 351 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: the fence line at the far end of the home bleachers, 352 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: wearing my junior football jersey along with a one hundred 353 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: other little boys watching the Mustangs take the walk down 354 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: that white shell driveway from the fieldhouse to the stadium. 355 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: They were our heroes and they were let out by 356 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: Coach Hooks for thirty years. That rarely happens in this 357 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: day and age, and I have zero doubts that the 358 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: reason Western Stark has the highest winning percentage all time 359 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: in Texas high school football history with at least five 360 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: hundred games played is because Coach Hooks is because of 361 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: Coach Hooks and his leadership. I've been lucky enough to 362 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: have the chance to let him know what he's done 363 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: for me over my life, what he's done for me 364 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: and my life. In our most recent visit, he told 365 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: me that he'd only ever had three employers channel view 366 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: isd Lamar University and as the leader of Mustang Country. 367 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: In the coaching profession, that's unheard of, but it speaks 368 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: to one of the things that personifies Coach Hooks. Unfortunately, 369 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: another trait that has slowly eroded in our world. I've 370 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: shared before that one thing has always stuck in my 371 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: mind about Coach Hooks. He preached and preached that the 372 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: Mustangs played for four full quarters, not one, not two, 373 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: not three, but all four translation, don't give up, no 374 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: matter the score, no matter the conditions, no matter what happens. 375 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: He'd often say, in that wonderful Southeast Texas vernacular, We're 376 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: going to play forty eight minutes of football. Hell, you 377 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: could hold your hand in a fire for that long 378 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: if you had to, Well, coach, you played them all, 379 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: and you leave a hell of a legacy. Go get 380 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: your rest with Michael Maryshaw. With Iron Stark, which I 381 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: did not graduate from. My graduating from Orangeville, I started 382 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: at Western Stark had a legendary football coach and Dan Hooks. 383 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: Ramone was saying growing up in Texas City that I 384 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: held I knew who Western Stark was. My dad and 385 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: I would go to the state championship games as a 386 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: triple header and felt like Western Stark was in it 387 00:23:54,640 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: every year that a legendary football football coach in Hooks, 388 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: Dan Ray, and they had a legendary baseball coach in 389 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: Ronnie Anderson, and that was such a special group of athletes. 390 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: It was. It was such a special sports program for 391 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: so long when I was growing up. Obviously I was 392 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: a fan of professional sports, but my grandfather had driven 393 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: the bus for several local schools and My dad loved 394 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: high school sports, so between the two of them, we 395 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: went to a lot of Friday night lights and watched 396 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: a lot of football growing up. And it's still an 397 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: indulgence to sit and watch a high school football a 398 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: well played high school football game. It is a treat 399 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: to this day. There's something special about it, especially as 400 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: you get to the end of a season, because you 401 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: got kids that are seniors that are not going to 402 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: ever get to suit up again, and they understand that, 403 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: and to watch them lay it all on the line. 404 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: You won't see that in the pros. Nobody's laying it 405 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: on the line. It's a business and you don't want 406 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: to do too much or you might not get to 407 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: come back next year. And by the time they're ready 408 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: to retire in there, in that last little bit and 409 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: this is their last opportunity. Hell, they're so broken down 410 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: they don't want to lay it out there. But in 411 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: high school you see some kids, and they are kids 412 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: just absolutely humping it, playing with all their heart, and 413 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: no matter how well the game is played, somebody's gonna 414 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: win and somebody's going to lose. And you see these 415 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: young men, I mean, testosterone levels over one thousand and 416 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: they're coming off the field and they're crying. You see, 417 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: the tears are streaming down, and it's just such an 418 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: intense emotion for these boys. If you listen to me 419 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: reading Rick Dering's letter, they won the state championship. His 420 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: and my I didn't go there, but we were the 421 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: same year, sophomore year and junior year and didn't win it, 422 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: but went but didn't win it a senior year, which 423 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: he would have won three statesampionships that they had, which 424 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: would have been pretty darn and cool. But Ronnie Anderson 425 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: was a longtime baseball coach, and to put it into perspective, 426 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: Ronnie Anderson had been the history or English teacher, I 427 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: think history teacher in baseball coach. When my mother was there. 428 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: My mother remembered him walking into the room. He had 429 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: found out in the hallway that John F. Kennedy had 430 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: been assassinated. So it must have been I guess during 431 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: it they were having the not parade or having the 432 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: drive through, so I guess that would have been about then. 433 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: But anyway, she remembers coach Anderson walking into the room 434 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: and explaining and revealing that President Kennedy had died and 435 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: talking about what this meant for our country and where 436 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: we were, and these sorts of things. The other things 437 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: she remembered about him as a teacher slash coach is 438 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: that when the bell rang, the girls were to get 439 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: up and leave, and it was not until the last 440 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: girl left the classroom that the boys were allowed to 441 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: get up and leave, which, if you remember when the 442 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: bell rang, you had stuff you wanted to do. Go 443 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: kiss your girlfriend, go meet up with your buddies. We 444 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: had between second and third period we had a ten 445 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: minute break, so it was normally only a five minute break. 446 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: This is a little bit we'd a little bit school Orangefield, 447 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: but we had two hallways and then a connecting so 448 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: it made a horseshoe, and then the cafeteria off of that, 449 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: and near the cafeteria was a coke machine. It actually 450 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: said doctor Pepper, but I think of that as a 451 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: coke machine. And you would run down there, and I 452 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: think it was twenty five cents of the time. And 453 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: I remember when I was in a high school boy, 454 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: we were big. Now I could run down during the 455 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: ten minute break and get myself doctor Pepper in the 456 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: middle of the day like a grown man. Oh my goodness, 457 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: like a grown man I was, and second period would 458 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: pop and I would run down there and there'd be 459 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: somebody in front of you, and they weren't they were 460 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: trying to decide, Oh no, and they were little orange 461 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: fan turk. Just get something because you wanted to have 462 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: your full You know, you only had probably eight minutes 463 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: to consume your doctor Pepper because there was getting there 464 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: and getting back. And Miss Martin in her class would 465 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: sell eminems and the seals of the eminems. She was 466 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: allowed to sell eminem's to any student, which she would 467 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: do during in between the classes, all day every day. 468 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: She made enough off of that to pay for our 469 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: debate trips, and we traveled all over the state off 470 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: of her little Eminem sales in between. And she was 471 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: that passionate. She was our debate coach. I loved Alice 472 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: Martin anyway. So but the real treat was if I 473 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: moved fast enough, I could go get my doctor Pepper 474 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: and get down to Miss Martin's class, which was at 475 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: the end of the other hall, and get my emin 476 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,239 Speaker 1: m's and date my doctor Pepper and my emin ms. 477 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: Because you just couldn't have enough sugar. You just couldn't 478 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: have enough sugar. Ed, you're only Michael Marry show. Go ahead, 479 00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: Hey Mike, we'll. 480 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 4: Tell you I quick star. He used to officiate high 481 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 4: school football for a long time and we were doing 482 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 4: a playoff game West Oorne Stark and I don't remember 483 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 4: who they're playing, but we had a pretty controversial call 484 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 4: right at the end of the game, right at the 485 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 4: end of halftime, and all of a sudden, the coaches 486 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 4: come running on the field. It was kind of getting scary, 487 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 4: and coach Hook had a foot injury at the time. 488 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 4: He was in a golf cart. Well, he comes hauling 489 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 4: button his golf cart all the way across the field 490 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 4: to grab my referee and he's like, look, y'all made 491 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: a bad call, and I understand it, but people, this 492 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 4: is West Orange Stark and we don't get bad call 493 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 4: and you need a police escort. We all leave tonight 494 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 4: and we just kind of looked at each other and say, hey, 495 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 4: we got one more half to go. What is he 496 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 4: trying to do to us? And that was like my 497 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 4: fondest memory because he was always a fireball no matter 498 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 4: what happened with that. 499 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: Guy Well, and he was very subtly in what sounded 500 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: like protecting you. He was very subtly telling you don't 501 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: make another bad call. 502 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: You know about how I go. 503 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: I've always wondered about guys that did that and why 504 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: on earth you would do it. You know people have said, 505 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: well maybe they of the sport. You're not getting to 506 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: enjoy it. Everybody in the stadium hates you. Even the 507 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: team that wins thinks you cheated them. 508 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you know I did it for about 509 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 4: thirteen years, and the biggest thing about it, you know, 510 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 4: I never really progressed to the higher levels because I 511 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 4: was more into the high school game. You know, I 512 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 4: think for me is one You get to stay in 513 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 4: the game too, I believe you get You get a 514 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 4: lot of insight to the game. You see a lot 515 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 4: of things. You always know when coaches did bad stuff. 516 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 4: But really it's about the interaction with the kids, you know, 517 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 4: because you're almost a coach on the field, because you 518 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 4: don't really call every single thing like do say in 519 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 4: college of the NFL because it means so much, but 520 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 4: we're like, hey, you know, you go to a kid 521 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 4: and you know, hey, maybe next time, don't put your 522 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 4: hands on his you know, on his shoulders that way, 523 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: or you know, hold a little bit left next time. 524 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: What do you do? 525 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 4: I think is we officiated. We officiated that way and 526 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 4: the coaches really appreciated it. Yeah, kind of have like 527 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 4: another coach on there. 528 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: What do you do now? 529 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 4: I own a pest control company. 530 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: Good for you? How about that. 531 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 4: Yep, yellow rose pest and wildlie maddines. 532 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: Oh, I think, as he called before, as sounds for 533 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: Me, mm hmm