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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giant Huddle Podcast, brought to you by Citizens,

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Speaker 1: welcome David tyreied a training camp he of the helmet catch,

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Speaker 1: former Super Bowl champion. David. It's always good to see.

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Speaker 2: And you know what amazes me.

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Speaker 1: The first thing I look at when I see you

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Speaker 1: is that you look like you could still play today.

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Speaker 1: So many of these guys retire and they gained a

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Speaker 1: little weight, shall we say, but.

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Speaker 3: Not you, Nah, the some folks let it go. You know,

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Speaker 3: obviously I'm a man a few opportunities. I can't let

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Speaker 3: right too.

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Speaker 1: Mentality wise, when does it actually start to dissipate that

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Speaker 1: you're a player? You come back to training camp here,

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Speaker 1: do those juices in those memories kind of flood back

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Speaker 3: Or are you behind that by now? I think I'm

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Speaker 3: definitely behind it. But it's a special time. You know,

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Speaker 3: I think that every player who's who's had the you know,

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Speaker 3: the joy of enjoying his game. You know, in the

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Speaker 3: July and augustar is rolling around, and you know, it's

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Speaker 3: a special time of the year. Obviously, this is the

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Speaker 3: America's favorite sport, and I think, you know, everybody's really

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Speaker 3: excited about that, even more so as a Giant. It

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Speaker 3: gives me a reason to really tune in to what's

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited, all right.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about this year's team first,

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Speaker 1: then I'll recap with some other things.

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Speaker 2: This Giants team.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, kaf Guy and Dabele had such a dramatic impact

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Speaker 1: What do you foresee the biggest next step up for

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Speaker 1: this Giants offense if you will.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really just looking forward to you know, the

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Speaker 3: culture shift was a leadership one on one, so I

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Speaker 3: was very, very pleased with that. And I think year

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Speaker 3: two is just talking about foundation and progress, and I

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Speaker 3: think the health of the team will give them the

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Speaker 1: So a lot of stuff to be excited about. You know,

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Speaker 1: that wide receiver room. They've had a lot of depth

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Speaker 1: that's got to really make this passing game a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 3: You talk about a playmaker at the position, right, but

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, just just the right pieces in the

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Speaker 3: Darren Waller too, after a couple challenging injury plague seasons,

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Speaker 1: Could you tell me a little bit specifically about what

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Speaker 2: Room, because I know you remember that well when you

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Speaker 2: It takes away doubling options on a primary target.

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Speaker 1: You're ready for a change.

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Speaker 3: Pay Day comes early with citizens, So go to that retreat.

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Speaker 2: Knew you moves to the country now you're raising goats

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Speaker 2: and launching a lifestyle brand.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready for all that life breaks?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: What would you tell the competition in this wide receivers room,

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Speaker 2: Lot of it and they can't keep them all.

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Speaker 1: You and I both know special teams and also blocking

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Speaker 2: Well, that's that's what it's gonna boil down to. You

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Speaker 2: Get the best out of every player there.

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Speaker 3: Paris Campbell was a nice pickup, so I really enjoyed

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Speaker 1: So if the competition is so difficult at wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: But the reality is, if we can get you stretching

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Speaker 1: All Right, we still talk about the fact that this

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Speaker 1: But all this hype is about the passing game. Do

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Speaker 1: you still think the Giants are going to have to

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Speaker 2: No, I think they're going to have to. I think

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Speaker 3: Actually, when you have such a dynamic talent in Saquon Barkley,

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Speaker 3: it really gives you a three headed monster, not just

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Speaker 2: You know, versatility within their offense.

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Speaker 1: As someone who was part of a passing game here,

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I just think it's confidence, right.

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Speaker 3: I think that the culture shift, the belief, the infusion

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Speaker 3: I think the confidence measure of that, Okay, I've been

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Speaker 2: This is my team.

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Speaker 3: He's proven some metal and I think there's no questions

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Speaker 2: David?

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Speaker 1: One of the things I need to ask you about

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Speaker 1: because it was such a big party. Your game is

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Speaker 3: I mean for me, it started with the Steve Taskers,

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Speaker 1: So how hard is it do you think for some

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Speaker 3: Do it, it's gonna be extremely hard. I think if

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Speaker 2: So I'm a little saddened by it.

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Speaker 3: I think I always try to be considerate of what

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Speaker 1: So how much does that raise the level of urgency

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Speaker 1: There's only three preseason games they changed out a couple

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, there's a wise man named ra macho man,

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Speaker 2: In practice.

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Speaker 3: You have to begin to now treat like a game, right,

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Speaker 1: Okay, final question, I have to go back to your

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Speaker 1: career because everybody asks you about the helmet catch. Let

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Speaker 1: me ask you one hypothetical. Let's say the helmet catch

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Speaker 2: It just be another catch. Oh, it wouldn't be another catch.

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Speaker 2: I think I would still take the same amount of pride.

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Speaker 3: I know I wouldn't have the same measure of significance, right,

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Speaker 3: So I think that's what makes the helmet catch such

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Speaker 3: going to be one of the best catches in NFL history.

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Speaker 3: Mother significance is lacking, right, And I think they're fun

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Speaker 2: I take my catch ten out of ten times all.

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Speaker 3: Day, every day, especially when we look at knocking off,

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Speaker 3: you know, eighteen and one Patriot team.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's perfect. A helmet catch will live in perpetuity. David Tyree,

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Speaker 1: always great to see it. Thanks for coming back again today.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Paul. That's David Tyree and this has been

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