WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Fan Call Tuesday 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:05.120 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:16.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:20.360 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:32.960 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:39.360 and Bill Jones. Oh Happy Tuesday. We have in the 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:45.640 studios here at the Star in Frisco, Texas. This is 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.720 Talking Cowboys. Are we on to the Lions yet? And 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:51.519 I don't think think so bad? I don't think so 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:53.959 thinks I've already watched tape on him. What about you, Mick, 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:59.160 I don't think so Uh. There's no twenty four hour 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.200 rule when it comes to a week like this week. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.160 Brian does have that rule, though he was grinding on 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.360 tape this morning before the show. Yeah, yeah, I think 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:10.600 all right. Let me I got a question right off 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.840 the top, because we will dwell a lot on what 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:16.119 happened Sunday as well. It puts in prospective Lions week 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.679 and which team in the league has the number one 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:24.720 pass defense in this National Football League? Number one past 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:29.399 number one pass defense in the National Football League. It 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.520 isn't one of those teams that played last night pittsburgher 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:36.240 Tampa Bay No give you that where they were throwing 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.679 it all over the lot. Let's go back to your 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:42.040 theory last show about how the numbers are skewed a 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.280 little bit. They can be skewed a little bit. But 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.040 number one pass defense in the league. We're talking passing 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.800 yards given up in the first three games of this season. 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:55.080 It's a really bad team, right, Maybe not, maybe this 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:59.440 is this football team. They only gave up one hundred sixty. Yeah, 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.360 we've got a vote for Dallas, got it that vote 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:05.360 for Dallas. Vote for Dallas, Okay, because their number three overall, 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:09.880 one of the Cowboys offensively. What's their pass offense ranking 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:14.840 in the league thirty one. I believe there's a lot 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.360 of their second to last in passing yards. There's a 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.600 lot of thirty first rankings with the offense right now, 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:24.440 points per game, third down conversions, it's not okay. So 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.560 the number one pass defense and the National Football League 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:31.760 is the Detroit Lions. Okay, coming in here this week. 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.400 So we got the number the second to last pass 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.840 offense versus the number one pass defense, which limited Tom 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.799 Brady and the Patriots to one hundred twenty total net 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.120 yards passing Sunday night. So there you have it. That 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:47.359 sets the tone for Lions weight who calls their plays? 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:54.880 Patricia that Patricia's no Paul pascalon for New England. It's 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.639 Detroit has the number. Well, where are you going to, 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:02.040 Josh m Josh what would they beat? Josh McDaniel, McDaniel, 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.760 Josh mcdonwal, I think it Josh McCown. Who did Who 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.800 did Detroit beat? Yeah? New England? Yeah? Okay? And how 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.720 many yards passing? They had? One hundred and twenty net 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:17.040 yards plus thirteen yards? Who's calling the place for the Patriots? 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:24.200 He's questioning New England's ability to move a lee. I 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.640 got you. We're not canny, we're not talking. We're talking 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.520 to Brians here. Yeah, all right, And by the way, 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.960 over the course of the next hour, we'll get into 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:37.440 play calling too, which was the topic djure yesterday at 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.840 the press conference. Well, I thought I got into it 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.680 right away, right off the bat, right there. All right, 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.200 let me okay, Brian's got some questions. He's gonna pose 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.360 in the next hour. We're gonna take your phone calls 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.520 as well. Eight eight eight eight five five two two 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.880 ninety seven. I got a tweet from someone yesterday saying 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:56.960 we need to take more phone calls. Well, we need 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:58.920 to have better phone calls. And what we had yesterday 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.240 that was that Okay, bring it all right, See Bill, 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.240 you're gonna get in trouble there when you're talking about 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.680 Joe and flower Mound and Dick's all right, Bill set 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.880 the standard. All right. So here's a question that I 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:15.320 have for you. Okay, what kind of because I think 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.600 a lot of this play calling stuff has to do 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.880 is with we need to get the ball to Zeke 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.960 more sure? Right? Okay? Zeke averaged over eight yards of 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.800 carry in the game Sunday, right, and they were okay 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:32.080 with that? Seattle was yeah, they were yep. And because 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.040 they won the game, they won the game, that's right, 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.840 That's right. You never forced them to change what they 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.200 what they had to do right to win the game, right, 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.080 all right? So what kind of distribution do are we 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.359 looking for? How many times does Zeke need to touch 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.200 the ball? What's what's the percentage of total plays? And 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.240 we want to see Zeke touching the ball, whether it's 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.039 running the ball or catching the ball out of the backfield. Well, 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.440 we talked about this pre show I went to journalism 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.640 school and A and M, so my math is terror okay, 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.599 But if you got sixty plays in a football game, 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:07.600 whatever percentage of twenty five touches by Zeke is what 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.720 I want. So a little less than fifty percent. Yeah, 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:14.240 and preferably, you know, up fifty or above if it's 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.520 sixty plays, But that that probably means you're winning the 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.120 game and you're trying to salt away the game in 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.320 the fourth quarter. But I want Zeke in the twenties. 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.600 And I think I don't think he's had twenty carries 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.520 in a game yet this season. Right, He's been in 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:29.680 the teams every time. I think that's right. So do 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.880 you trust this offensive line to run block consistently enough 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.520 to run it as much as you want? I was 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.320 encouraged by what they did two days to stand with Seattle, 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.920 But I mean you understand, I mean consistently. See, that's 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.320 the problem I think that everybody has that this team 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.279 runs the ball too much, and there's a there's not 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.359 a passing game. Do you feel like Seattle kind of 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.520 try to give them that a little bit? Seattle said, yeah, 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.920 run the ball. Didn't see as many loaded boxes. Yeah, 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.600 So It's funny because I hear they need to give 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.160 the ball Zeke more, and then I also hear they 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.440 need to be more creative. Yeah, to see, that's the 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.440 that's the problem you run into, is that. And I 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.440 don't disagree with you, guys, I really don't. I mean, 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.360 I'm just trying to say that what's going to happen 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.760 is that the the the fan out there is going 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.719 to say, will you run the ball too much? First 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:23.280 down runs, second down runs? You know that you're you're 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.799 you're you're too committed to running the football, I guess. 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.200 And that's where you know, and you see it the 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:33.000 other day where yeah, he has fifteen carries averages seven 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.840 yards to carry, but are they going to be able 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.760 to consistently do that? That's that's where if you run 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.000 the football, you're gonna not score points. That's where that's 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.560 just the way this league is. Well, they've run it 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:47.920 in the past, and I'm and I said, this last 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.240 show can't really go back on the past too much 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.960 because it's a different offensive line right now. Sure, but 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.320 their formula has been and I think you know they're 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.760 trying to do it this last game, getting these manageable 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:02.520 situations might be short passing game to try to get 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.520 Dack in this third and manageable stuff. And that was 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.000 the problem. And Garrett spoke to it yesterday three to 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.120 thirteen on third down and it wasn't like they were 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:10.880 in third and ten all the time. No, they weren't. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.120 So they ideally, I think you got to be able 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.120 to use Zeke to stay ahead of the chains. But 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.680 I'm with you, they haven't run it with as much 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.200 efficiency overall this season as they'd like to. Basically basically 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:27.480 until to answer my question to until they got into 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:31.120 fourth quarter where they're having to throw at every play, Yeah, 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.640 basically or down. Well, they were down twenty four six 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.520 at one point, but in the fourth quarter, fifty percent 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.120 of the time Zeke the play was designed to go 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.920 to Zeke. Now, I got twenty one out of forty 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:45.480 two plays Zeke was involved in the play. Now, some 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.320 of those don't show up on the stat sheet because 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.120 he stepped out of bounds on a thirty one yard 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.040 touchdown catch, he dropped a ball on a third down, 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.760 so that includes drops and whatever. But fifty percent of 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.240 the time Zeke was getting the football. See, they had 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:03.280 they had a toe of fifty eight place. He touched 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:07.360 the ball nineteen times, So if Mike kelts right here, 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:11.520 that's thirty three percent. Probably not much. In the last 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.400 he also dropped one and stepped out of bounds, so 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.800 that would have been twenty. He had another play where 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:19.920 when he won, he was stunning out of bounds when 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.200 the ball was thrown to him. Yeah yeah, so so again, 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:28.120 so he's touching it almost thirty five six that's including 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.200 the fourth quarter though, But then and then in the 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.640 fourth and think about this, at the end of the 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:36.000 half they were in two minute, they threw two passes, 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.600 and then at the five twenty five mark when they 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:44.040 were behind, they ended up throwing ten passes because they're 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:47.600 in hurry up off right, So that's twelve touches, twelve 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.880 passes out of thirty four. If you were in the lead, 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.560 you wouldn't be doing that, right and a great and 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.000 so flip it over to Seattle and what they did 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.040 with Chris Carson, he winds up. You look at the 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.480 final stat sheet and whoa, this is a great discrepancy here. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.960 Chris Carson carried the ball thirty two times and Zeke 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.480 carried it seventeen times or whatever. It was, how can 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.160 you have that imbalance like that? Well, that's because Chris 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:17.200 Carson in the last quarter and change of the game 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.679 carried the ball fifteen times for forty eight yards. He 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.400 had fifteen of his thirty two carries after they got 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.480 up twenty four because they didn't mind going punt, punt, punt, 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.680 never try. Yeah, right, they were. They saw what Dallas 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.679 was doing offensively. Right, they went into the game knowing 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:37.040 what Dallas or incapable of doing offensive People say it 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.679 dates how they played. The people have been saying for 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.560 the last few weeks, you stopped Zeke. You stopped this offense. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:48.920 They didn't. Seattle didn't stop Zeke. Cowboys stopped themselves. Well, okay, 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:50.800 let me ask you this, guys, and I'll answer the 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:54.400 question for you too. Mickey Good, which does this team 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:58.839 run the ball better or pass protect better? At this 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.840 current state? Do they run the ball better or pass 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:06.200 protect better? That's pretty easy. They run the ball better, Yeah, 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.160 I'd say that overall. Yeah, from what we've seen in 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.640 three games. I put the ball in z cans over 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.199 I mean, but we're okay, great example, but were and 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:16.920 I don't disagree with what you're saying. I think you 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.120 think they run the ball better. Yeah. But the thing 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.760 about it is, though, is running the football going to 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.640 put them in you know, are they going to be 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.679 in debt bad down and distance situation? Are we going 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.600 to get the consistency run blocking? I think I think 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.400 they do run block better, yeah, but are you going 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.520 to have the consistency doing it? And is and now 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.400 are you going to put yourself in those bad down 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.520 and distance situations trying to be efficient? Trying to be efficient? 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.679 That's faires. What happened in Carolina They had minus runs 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:46.800 and that that hurt there down in distance as much 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:50.680 as penalties and sacks did. Um. It's a good question. 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.400 I mean, the flip side is you do I don't 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.199 think you want to put the ball in Dak's hands 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:56.400 and make him throw forty times a game. That's not 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.280 That's not the way you want to play offense, Eve, No, 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.120 you know you want to How is this offense going 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:05.800 to score points? That's the biggest question. What's there? What's 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.200 their avenue for scorn points? Is it running the ball? 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.880 Is it throwing the ball? Are they just are they 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.600 just do that? Then the whole thing the argument of hey, 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.920 we don't need a number one receiver here is that now? 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:20.880 Coming back to bite them, what I was gonna say 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.480 is you need more explosive plays here and there like 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.680 you got from Tavon in WEEKDA. I would I would 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.720 get the ball to Tavon Austin. I would get him 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.199 more involved. You talk about Zeke, I would get Tavon 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.920 Austin involved more in what's going on here? Right about 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.520 that today when he gets the ball or he's involved 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.400 in a play design, good things seem to happen. But 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.040 he hasn't you know, he hasn't been on the field 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.360 a ton, you know. But but you better find a 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:48.000 way to score points. That's the team's biggest problem. Protection 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.719 has been poor consistency and running the football. Yeah, it 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.439 was good against Seattle, you know, and you knew you 0:11:54.520 --> 0:12:00.200 were gonna have some problems against the the Giants. They 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.959 doubled his snaps this last game, Austin. They did. He 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:08.199 had twenty twenty twenty snaps thirty three percent. That's good. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.599 It needs to be more. Yeah, maybe he needs to 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:14.199 be the receiver that's out there more often, not just 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:18.640 a toy receiver. They need to do Brian, They you 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:19.959 make a great point. I mean they need to do 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.320 what Seattle was able to do on Sunday, and that's 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.720 hit a big play here and there. They had one 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.160 expense lead like they did against the Giants that too. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.840 How do they do that? Well? Four yard touchdown? Well 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:33.640 they hit it. They host to play down the field. 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.520 They got to be able to do this. This offense 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:39.120 doesn't make any big plays. Is he the most experienced receiver? 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:48.679 They have? Tavon Yes twenty and then Williams And then 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.360 I'm gonna tell you that I'm gonna get to a 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.520 question where I'm gonna do something with Williams, you know, 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.640 because I mean that's you know, what's he doing? He's 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:01.240 been involved in running plays? Really not? Or is he not? 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.360 Is he not a suddenly not capable? That's what I want. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.720 That's fifty pass exactly? Are they are? They? Are they 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:13.040 moving on from Terrence Williams just because of trying to 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.000 get some other things. You're gonna try and get Bryce 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.160 Butler dressed this week? Who are you gonna sit? I 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.199 think it's him, That's what I'm saying. Is that the 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.520 right guy to sit. He's the one guy that has 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:27.720 the most experience, you know, of making plays. I'm sure 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:29.760 the fan out there is losing their mind right now 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.679 with me saying that. But I mean, who are you 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:36.080 gonna sit? You gonna I mean they're gonna sit Herns. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.680 I don't think you're sallup. You're not gonna sit Gallup 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.760 or Thompson. No, all right here, here's I was driving 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.280 in thinking about this. They need Do they need to 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.480 hone in on who their top receivers are and not 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:55.640 go with you know, by committee or yeah, well with 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.439 in in practice, in games, whatever. Do they need to 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:03.000 hone in on these are the four receivers that we're 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.640 going with. I've been saying, I think it's a couple 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.320 of weeks and I think it's something that they needed 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.320 to do starting about mid training camp and we had 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:14.439 this discussion about with this this committee approach work. And 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.080 I'm not saying that the guys haven't made some plays, 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:21.080 but where are the big plays? Where's the run after catch? 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.520 The only run after catch you get it seems to 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.480 be from Beasley a little bit cross round. Yeah, this team, 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:31.360 this team doesn't are the intermediate plays. Yeah, and maybe 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.720 that's on the quarterback too, and maybe that's on the 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.880 offensive line. But I think I think to Rob's point, 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:38.840 which he has been talking about this for a couple 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.400 of weeks, is at least a couple of weeks is 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:46.080 all right? Even with a Michael Gallup, this is a 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.160 rookie receiver, Okay, right, we saw him drop a past 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.040 the other day that it resulted an interception. All right. 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:56.160 Maybe with Michael Gallup, you gotta just pull back on him. 0:14:56.440 --> 0:15:00.600 And you have to win games right now, okay, And 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.320 so you have to I believe you have to settle 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.360 on these are the guys we're going with right now. Yeah. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.760 And if Michael Gallup, if you can trust him, if 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.520 he's you're one of those four, go with him. But 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:15.080 if not, it doesn't mean you don't have great plans 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.520 for Michael Gallup on down the road or even the 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.960 second half of the season. Let him grow into this. 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.320 It's it's a very tough league to get into. You've 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:27.880 got experienced receivers. You mentioned Terrence Williams, Cole Beasley, Okay, 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:33.120 Tavon Austin, Alan Hearns, you've got Thompson has shown some things, 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.560 but you just got to figure out who are your guys. 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.120 Maybe the one advantage I have over you guys right 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.680 now is the fact that I've seen Michael Gallup make 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.720 plays in college at Colorado State, And maybe that's why 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.760 I would I would say, Bill, I'm gonna live with 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.320 him right now. It's it's like living with Conor Williams. 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.360 But if you feel that strongly about him, then go 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.000 with it. And then but if he's the one guy 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.400 that can make plays, I'm gonna keep him on the field. 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.720 I know we had the drop, I mean, I know, 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.960 and that's great that it also saw the touchdown against 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:07.840 San Francisco in the preseason. You know, sure he's free. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.840 If he's who you have confidence, the guys that you 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.320 have confidence in and can try make a great point, 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.560 you make a go with them right now and then 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.440 things are gonna But who do you have? That's what 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.360 they got to figure. They should point three games, right, 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.880 That's the point. I don't know if they know yet exactly. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:28.440 Maybe they have confidence. Well that's a shame if they. 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.200 I mean, I'm not I'm just saying, don't forget some guys. 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.960 Seven guys and we and we have no we have confidence. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.560 They eventually have confidence in Beasley. Hey, well no, I 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.800 mean down the line, I know Beasley. I know Tavan 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.880 and some of these guys miss time in preseason. Maybe 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:48.240 that factors in the the eye tests evaluation. I don't know, 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.000 but yeah, I think it helps your quarterback out if 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:52.920 you can trim pair this thing down a little bit 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.120 and he knows who he's got and who he's rolling with. 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.800 It may be a fifty fifty decision on who it is. 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.240 There may not be, but you, I think you need 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.160 to make the decision. Jerry was talking about it on 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.560 the radio, not in regards to UH this morning, not 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:09.000 in regards to the receivers, but so often there are 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.680 fifty fifty decisions that a decision maker has to make, 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.280 and he, as he said, the key on it is 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.280 if it's a good decision, go with it as long 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.399 as you can as it continues to be a good decision, 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.760 if it's got playing over Romo. If you say, if 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:28.080 it's a bad decision, then you gotta get it. You 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.680 reverse the decision as soon as you see that it's 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.040 a bad decision. That makes the key to it. So 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:36.320 in this case, if it may be fifty fifty on 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.080 these six or seven wide receivers, who plays will make 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.520 your decision and then it will sort itself out. How 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:46.120 many catches as Hearns have had to the last game 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.920 he had one or two? The four four? Yeah, four. 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.080 See that's a problem. What's he what's he got you? 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.720 What's he giving you? Yeah, that's a fair, fair point. 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.840 They didn't pay him enough. That says he's got a 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.320 play or he's got a stick. So that's a good analysis. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.159 And I've been with Brian on this since camp. I 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:09.080 think Gallop, aside from Tavon Austin, he's rare in terms 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:13.359 of speed. Gallops maybe your most explosive receiver. I mean, 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.920 he's got a lot of potential to help you down 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.520 the field. So yeah, the question is do you give 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.320 him the snaps and live with some of the growing pains. 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.240 You can't. But when he makes a drop that leads 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:27.200 to an it's a huge side. It kills you. It 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.720 does it's a huge play in the game. But you 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:33.159 know what, I drafted this kid to play. I drafted him. 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:37.199 He's He's different than what Mickey's talking about with Alan Hearns. 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.520 It's a different player, Alan Hearns. I love you're running 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:43.800 inside and catching the slant and maybe getting in behind, 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.639 you know, kind of fitting in behind the linebackers. But 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.080 I need some explosive plays. I need some downfield plays. 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.800 I need my line, like Micky's talking about again, to 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.200 protect ye. I mean we've seen Hearns catch a pass 0:18:56.480 --> 0:19:00.560 and run. Yeah, I've seen Gallup do it. See that's 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:02.879 I mean, Gallup would have made that play in the 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.560 Carolina game. You just seeing a guy go and finish. 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:10.119 You've just seen that. They just don't have anybody on 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.840 the outside that's doing that. It seems like it's a 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.720 catch a three yard game and a fall down, you know, 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:17.800 or get down, unless it's unless you're throwing the ball 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:19.920 to number ten and then all of a sudden you're like, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.639 well this could go, this could go, you know. And 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.239 even when he was running backwards and I thought, man, 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.640 if he just got the corner, yeah, he was gonna 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.960 get six seven yards After all that stuff going on, 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:33.760 He's one guy that you're kind of okay with him 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.119 doing that because it's he might have a chance. It 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.359 wasn't on the defensive made the stuff on that play. Um, 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.240 I can't remember. He was moving right trying to catch 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.639 the right I can't think there was a free safety 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:50.359 that was it that Yeah, that's right. He did get him. Yeah, 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:55.400 the other free safety was it McDougall. Actually, their safeties 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:57.879 played really well other than just other than just you 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:01.399 know or McDougall. The other they played well, right they did. Okay, 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.840 we have a phone call, but we're right up against it. 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:06.320 But we're gonna go ahead and go with the phone 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:11.280 call anyway. Richie in Arizona first up on Talking Cowboys. 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:17.080 Good morning, gentlemen. I've got a lifelong Cowboy friend over 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:19.919 forty years, and I've had the highs and the lows, 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:25.800 the heartbreak and the ecstasy watching this team. But I'm 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:30.240 wondering now I'm beginning to lose respect for what I 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:34.280 would call the management side of the Cowboys, and I 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:38.280 think many of the fans are as well. There needs 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:42.800 to be greater concern about the state Right now. We're 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:46.920 not a competitive team. We're almost a laughing stock. And 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:51.080 what happens if we start losing people coming to the games, 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:57.040 buying the various things, joining the websites, following the news, 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:04.159 getting the TV commercials, the support for a team that 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.080 seems to be going nowhere. I would like to see 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.879 this team take seriously the fact that we're not a 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:15.040 very good team. We need to do something. I've always 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:18.480 had great respect for Jason Garrett. I'm beginning to lose that. 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.600 I think he has his head in the sand. Those 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:23.520 are my comments. Can we ask you a question or 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.440 say they need to do something? What would you like 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.120 to do? Thank you very much. For example, every game, 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:34.000 the very first play always is Elliot up the middle. 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.560 One year, we get that every single game. Why not 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:42.520 in one game have a screen pass or something to 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:45.680 open up the game. When it's a third and two, 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.560 we always go to a pass once in a while. 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:52.240 Why don't we run the ball and didn't get it 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.800