Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. Oh Happy Tuesday. We have in the
Speaker 1: studios here at the Star in Frisco, Texas. This is
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Are we on to the Lions yet? And
Speaker 1: I don't think think so bad? I don't think so
Speaker 1: thinks I've already watched tape on him. What about you, Mick,
Speaker 1: I don't think so Uh. There's no twenty four hour
Speaker 1: rule when it comes to a week like this week.
Speaker 1: Brian does have that rule, though he was grinding on
Speaker 1: tape this morning before the show. Yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: all right. Let me I got a question right off
Speaker 1: the top, because we will dwell a lot on what
Speaker 1: happened Sunday as well. It puts in prospective Lions week
Speaker 1: and which team in the league has the number one
Speaker 1: pass defense in this National Football League? Number one past
Speaker 1: number one pass defense in the National Football League. It
Speaker 1: isn't one of those teams that played last night pittsburgher
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay No give you that where they were throwing
Speaker 1: it all over the lot. Let's go back to your
Speaker 1: theory last show about how the numbers are skewed a
Speaker 1: little bit. They can be skewed a little bit. But
Speaker 1: number one pass defense in the league. We're talking passing
Speaker 1: yards given up in the first three games of this season.
Speaker 1: It's a really bad team, right, Maybe not, maybe this
Speaker 1: is this football team. They only gave up one hundred sixty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've got a vote for Dallas, got it that vote
Speaker 1: for Dallas. Vote for Dallas, Okay, because their number three overall,
Speaker 1: one of the Cowboys offensively. What's their pass offense ranking
Speaker 1: in the league thirty one. I believe there's a lot
Speaker 1: of their second to last in passing yards. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of thirty first rankings with the offense right now,
Speaker 1: points per game, third down conversions, it's not okay. So
Speaker 1: the number one pass defense and the National Football League
Speaker 1: is the Detroit Lions. Okay, coming in here this week.
Speaker 1: So we got the number the second to last pass
Speaker 1: offense versus the number one pass defense, which limited Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and the Patriots to one hundred twenty total net
Speaker 1: yards passing Sunday night. So there you have it. That
Speaker 1: sets the tone for Lions weight who calls their plays?
Speaker 1: Patricia that Patricia's no Paul pascalon for New England. It's
Speaker 1: Detroit has the number. Well, where are you going to,
Speaker 1: Josh m Josh what would they beat? Josh McDaniel, McDaniel,
Speaker 1: Josh mcdonwal, I think it Josh McCown. Who did Who
Speaker 1: did Detroit beat? Yeah? New England? Yeah? Okay? And how
Speaker 1: many yards passing? They had? One hundred and twenty net
Speaker 1: yards plus thirteen yards? Who's calling the place for the Patriots?
Speaker 1: He's questioning New England's ability to move a lee. I
Speaker 1: got you. We're not canny, we're not talking. We're talking
Speaker 1: to Brians here. Yeah, all right, And by the way,
Speaker 1: over the course of the next hour, we'll get into
Speaker 1: play calling too, which was the topic djure yesterday at
Speaker 1: the press conference. Well, I thought I got into it
Speaker 1: right away, right off the bat, right there. All right,
Speaker 1: let me okay, Brian's got some questions. He's gonna pose
Speaker 1: in the next hour. We're gonna take your phone calls
Speaker 1: as well. Eight eight eight eight five five two two
Speaker 1: ninety seven. I got a tweet from someone yesterday saying
Speaker 1: we need to take more phone calls. Well, we need
Speaker 1: to have better phone calls. And what we had yesterday
Speaker 1: that was that Okay, bring it all right, See Bill,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get in trouble there when you're talking about
Speaker 1: Joe and flower Mound and Dick's all right, Bill set
Speaker 1: the standard. All right. So here's a question that I
Speaker 1: have for you. Okay, what kind of because I think
Speaker 1: a lot of this play calling stuff has to do
Speaker 1: is with we need to get the ball to Zeke
Speaker 1: more sure? Right? Okay? Zeke averaged over eight yards of
Speaker 1: carry in the game Sunday, right, and they were okay
Speaker 1: with that? Seattle was yeah, they were yep. And because
Speaker 1: they won the game, they won the game, that's right,
Speaker 1: That's right. You never forced them to change what they
Speaker 1: what they had to do right to win the game, right,
Speaker 1: all right? So what kind of distribution do are we
Speaker 1: looking for? How many times does Zeke need to touch
Speaker 1: the ball? What's what's the percentage of total plays? And
Speaker 1: we want to see Zeke touching the ball, whether it's
Speaker 1: running the ball or catching the ball out of the backfield. Well,
Speaker 1: we talked about this pre show I went to journalism
Speaker 1: school and A and M, so my math is terror okay,
Speaker 1: But if you got sixty plays in a football game,
Speaker 1: whatever percentage of twenty five touches by Zeke is what
Speaker 1: I want. So a little less than fifty percent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and preferably, you know, up fifty or above if it's
Speaker 1: sixty plays, But that that probably means you're winning the
Speaker 1: game and you're trying to salt away the game in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. But I want Zeke in the twenties.
Speaker 1: And I think I don't think he's had twenty carries
Speaker 1: in a game yet this season. Right, He's been in
Speaker 1: the teams every time. I think that's right. So do
Speaker 1: you trust this offensive line to run block consistently enough
Speaker 1: to run it as much as you want? I was
Speaker 1: encouraged by what they did two days to stand with Seattle,
Speaker 1: But I mean you understand, I mean consistently. See, that's
Speaker 1: the problem I think that everybody has that this team
Speaker 1: runs the ball too much, and there's a there's not
Speaker 1: a passing game. Do you feel like Seattle kind of
Speaker 1: try to give them that a little bit? Seattle said, yeah,
Speaker 1: run the ball. Didn't see as many loaded boxes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So It's funny because I hear they need to give
Speaker 1: the ball Zeke more, and then I also hear they
Speaker 1: need to be more creative. Yeah, to see, that's the
Speaker 1: that's the problem you run into, is that. And I
Speaker 1: don't disagree with you, guys, I really don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to say that what's going to happen
Speaker 1: is that the the the fan out there is going
Speaker 1: to say, will you run the ball too much? First
Speaker 1: down runs, second down runs? You know that you're you're
Speaker 1: you're you're too committed to running the football, I guess.
Speaker 1: And that's where you know, and you see it the
Speaker 1: other day where yeah, he has fifteen carries averages seven
Speaker 1: yards to carry, but are they going to be able
Speaker 1: to consistently do that? That's that's where if you run
Speaker 1: the football, you're gonna not score points. That's where that's
Speaker 1: just the way this league is. Well, they've run it
Speaker 1: in the past, and I'm and I said, this last
Speaker 1: show can't really go back on the past too much
Speaker 1: because it's a different offensive line right now. Sure, but
Speaker 1: their formula has been and I think you know they're
Speaker 1: trying to do it this last game, getting these manageable
Speaker 1: situations might be short passing game to try to get
Speaker 1: Dack in this third and manageable stuff. And that was
Speaker 1: the problem. And Garrett spoke to it yesterday three to
Speaker 1: thirteen on third down and it wasn't like they were
Speaker 1: in third and ten all the time. No, they weren't.
Speaker 1: So they ideally, I think you got to be able
Speaker 1: to use Zeke to stay ahead of the chains. But
Speaker 1: I'm with you, they haven't run it with as much
Speaker 1: efficiency overall this season as they'd like to. Basically basically
Speaker 1: until to answer my question to until they got into
Speaker 1: fourth quarter where they're having to throw at every play, Yeah,
Speaker 1: basically or down. Well, they were down twenty four six
Speaker 1: at one point, but in the fourth quarter, fifty percent
Speaker 1: of the time Zeke the play was designed to go
Speaker 1: to Zeke. Now, I got twenty one out of forty
Speaker 1: two plays Zeke was involved in the play. Now, some
Speaker 1: of those don't show up on the stat sheet because
Speaker 1: he stepped out of bounds on a thirty one yard
Speaker 1: touchdown catch, he dropped a ball on a third down,
Speaker 1: so that includes drops and whatever. But fifty percent of
Speaker 1: the time Zeke was getting the football. See, they had
Speaker 1: they had a toe of fifty eight place. He touched
Speaker 1: the ball nineteen times, So if Mike kelts right here,
Speaker 1: that's thirty three percent. Probably not much. In the last
Speaker 1: he also dropped one and stepped out of bounds, so
Speaker 1: that would have been twenty. He had another play where
Speaker 1: when he won, he was stunning out of bounds when
Speaker 1: the ball was thrown to him. Yeah yeah, so so again,
Speaker 1: so he's touching it almost thirty five six that's including
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter though, But then and then in the
Speaker 1: fourth and think about this, at the end of the
Speaker 1: half they were in two minute, they threw two passes,
Speaker 1: and then at the five twenty five mark when they
Speaker 1: were behind, they ended up throwing ten passes because they're
Speaker 1: in hurry up off right, So that's twelve touches, twelve
Speaker 1: passes out of thirty four. If you were in the lead,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be doing that, right and a great and
Speaker 1: so flip it over to Seattle and what they did
Speaker 1: with Chris Carson, he winds up. You look at the
Speaker 1: final stat sheet and whoa, this is a great discrepancy here.
Speaker 1: Chris Carson carried the ball thirty two times and Zeke
Speaker 1: carried it seventeen times or whatever. It was, how can
Speaker 1: you have that imbalance like that? Well, that's because Chris
Speaker 1: Carson in the last quarter and change of the game
Speaker 1: carried the ball fifteen times for forty eight yards. He
Speaker 1: had fifteen of his thirty two carries after they got
Speaker 1: up twenty four because they didn't mind going punt, punt, punt,
Speaker 1: never try. Yeah, right, they were. They saw what Dallas
Speaker 1: was doing offensively. Right, they went into the game knowing
Speaker 1: what Dallas or incapable of doing offensive People say it
Speaker 1: dates how they played. The people have been saying for
Speaker 1: the last few weeks, you stopped Zeke. You stopped this offense.
Speaker 1: They didn't. Seattle didn't stop Zeke. Cowboys stopped themselves. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, guys, and I'll answer the
Speaker 1: question for you too. Mickey Good, which does this team
Speaker 1: run the ball better or pass protect better? At this
Speaker 1: current state? Do they run the ball better or pass
Speaker 1: protect better? That's pretty easy. They run the ball better, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd say that overall. Yeah, from what we've seen in
Speaker 1: three games. I put the ball in z cans over
Speaker 1: I mean, but we're okay, great example, but were and
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with what you're saying. I think you
Speaker 1: think they run the ball better. Yeah. But the thing
Speaker 1: about it is, though, is running the football going to
Speaker 1: put them in you know, are they going to be
Speaker 1: in debt bad down and distance situation? Are we going
Speaker 1: to get the consistency run blocking? I think I think
Speaker 1: they do run block better, yeah, but are you going
Speaker 1: to have the consistency doing it? And is and now
Speaker 1: are you going to put yourself in those bad down
Speaker 1: and distance situations trying to be efficient? Trying to be efficient?
Speaker 1: That's faires. What happened in Carolina They had minus runs
Speaker 1: and that that hurt there down in distance as much
Speaker 1: as penalties and sacks did. Um. It's a good question.
Speaker 1: I mean, the flip side is you do I don't
Speaker 1: think you want to put the ball in Dak's hands
Speaker 1: and make him throw forty times a game. That's not
Speaker 1: That's not the way you want to play offense, Eve, No,
Speaker 1: you know you want to How is this offense going
Speaker 1: to score points? That's the biggest question. What's there? What's
Speaker 1: their avenue for scorn points? Is it running the ball?
Speaker 1: Is it throwing the ball? Are they just are they
Speaker 1: just do that? Then the whole thing the argument of hey,
Speaker 1: we don't need a number one receiver here is that now?
Speaker 1: Coming back to bite them, what I was gonna say
Speaker 1: is you need more explosive plays here and there like
Speaker 1: you got from Tavon in WEEKDA. I would I would
Speaker 1: get the ball to Tavon Austin. I would get him
Speaker 1: more involved. You talk about Zeke, I would get Tavon
Speaker 1: Austin involved more in what's going on here? Right about
Speaker 1: that today when he gets the ball or he's involved
Speaker 1: in a play design, good things seem to happen. But
Speaker 1: he hasn't you know, he hasn't been on the field
Speaker 1: a ton, you know. But but you better find a
Speaker 1: way to score points. That's the team's biggest problem. Protection
Speaker 1: has been poor consistency and running the football. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was good against Seattle, you know, and you knew you
Speaker 1: were gonna have some problems against the the Giants. They
Speaker 1: doubled his snaps this last game, Austin. They did. He
Speaker 1: had twenty twenty twenty snaps thirty three percent. That's good.
Speaker 1: It needs to be more. Yeah, maybe he needs to
Speaker 1: be the receiver that's out there more often, not just
Speaker 1: a toy receiver. They need to do Brian, They you
Speaker 1: make a great point. I mean they need to do
Speaker 1: what Seattle was able to do on Sunday, and that's
Speaker 1: hit a big play here and there. They had one
Speaker 1: expense lead like they did against the Giants that too.
Speaker 1: How do they do that? Well? Four yard touchdown? Well
Speaker 1: they hit it. They host to play down the field.
Speaker 1: They got to be able to do this. This offense
Speaker 1: doesn't make any big plays. Is he the most experienced receiver?
Speaker 1: They have? Tavon Yes twenty and then Williams And then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that I'm gonna get to a
Speaker 1: question where I'm gonna do something with Williams, you know,
Speaker 1: because I mean that's you know, what's he doing? He's
Speaker 1: been involved in running plays? Really not? Or is he not?
Speaker 1: Is he not a suddenly not capable? That's what I want.
Speaker 1: That's fifty pass exactly? Are they are? They? Are they
Speaker 1: moving on from Terrence Williams just because of trying to
Speaker 1: get some other things. You're gonna try and get Bryce
Speaker 1: Butler dressed this week? Who are you gonna sit? I
Speaker 1: think it's him, That's what I'm saying. Is that the
Speaker 1: right guy to sit. He's the one guy that has
Speaker 1: the most experience, you know, of making plays. I'm sure
Speaker 1: the fan out there is losing their mind right now
Speaker 1: with me saying that. But I mean, who are you
Speaker 1: gonna sit? You gonna I mean they're gonna sit Herns.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're sallup. You're not gonna sit Gallup
Speaker 1: or Thompson. No, all right here, here's I was driving
Speaker 1: in thinking about this. They need Do they need to
Speaker 1: hone in on who their top receivers are and not
Speaker 1: go with you know, by committee or yeah, well with
Speaker 1: in in practice, in games, whatever. Do they need to
Speaker 1: hone in on these are the four receivers that we're
Speaker 1: going with. I've been saying, I think it's a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks and I think it's something that they needed
Speaker 1: to do starting about mid training camp and we had
Speaker 1: this discussion about with this this committee approach work. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the guys haven't made some plays,
Speaker 1: but where are the big plays? Where's the run after catch?
Speaker 1: The only run after catch you get it seems to
Speaker 1: be from Beasley a little bit cross round. Yeah, this team,
Speaker 1: this team doesn't are the intermediate plays. Yeah, and maybe
Speaker 1: that's on the quarterback too, and maybe that's on the
Speaker 1: offensive line. But I think I think to Rob's point,
Speaker 1: which he has been talking about this for a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, is at least a couple of weeks is
Speaker 1: all right? Even with a Michael Gallup, this is a
Speaker 1: rookie receiver, Okay, right, we saw him drop a past
Speaker 1: the other day that it resulted an interception. All right.
Speaker 1: Maybe with Michael Gallup, you gotta just pull back on him.
Speaker 1: And you have to win games right now, okay, And
Speaker 1: so you have to I believe you have to settle
Speaker 1: on these are the guys we're going with right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if Michael Gallup, if you can trust him, if
Speaker 1: he's you're one of those four, go with him. But
Speaker 1: if not, it doesn't mean you don't have great plans
Speaker 1: for Michael Gallup on down the road or even the
Speaker 1: second half of the season. Let him grow into this.
Speaker 1: It's it's a very tough league to get into. You've
Speaker 1: got experienced receivers. You mentioned Terrence Williams, Cole Beasley, Okay,
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin, Alan Hearns, you've got Thompson has shown some things,
Speaker 1: but you just got to figure out who are your guys.
Speaker 1: Maybe the one advantage I have over you guys right
Speaker 1: now is the fact that I've seen Michael Gallup make
Speaker 1: plays in college at Colorado State, And maybe that's why
Speaker 1: I would I would say, Bill, I'm gonna live with
Speaker 1: him right now. It's it's like living with Conor Williams.
Speaker 1: But if you feel that strongly about him, then go
Speaker 1: with it. And then but if he's the one guy
Speaker 1: that can make plays, I'm gonna keep him on the field.
Speaker 1: I know we had the drop, I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: and that's great that it also saw the touchdown against
Speaker 1: San Francisco in the preseason. You know, sure he's free.
Speaker 1: If he's who you have confidence, the guys that you
Speaker 1: have confidence in and can try make a great point,
Speaker 1: you make a go with them right now and then
Speaker 1: things are gonna But who do you have? That's what
Speaker 1: they got to figure. They should point three games, right,
Speaker 1: That's the point. I don't know if they know yet exactly.
Speaker 1: Maybe they have confidence. Well that's a shame if they.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not I'm just saying, don't forget some guys.
Speaker 1: Seven guys and we and we have no we have confidence.
Speaker 1: They eventually have confidence in Beasley. Hey, well no, I
Speaker 1: mean down the line, I know Beasley. I know Tavan
Speaker 1: and some of these guys miss time in preseason. Maybe
Speaker 1: that factors in the the eye tests evaluation. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think it helps your quarterback out if
Speaker 1: you can trim pair this thing down a little bit
Speaker 1: and he knows who he's got and who he's rolling with.
Speaker 1: It may be a fifty fifty decision on who it is.
Speaker 1: There may not be, but you, I think you need
Speaker 1: to make the decision. Jerry was talking about it on
Speaker 1: the radio, not in regards to UH this morning, not
Speaker 1: in regards to the receivers, but so often there are
Speaker 1: fifty fifty decisions that a decision maker has to make,
Speaker 1: and he, as he said, the key on it is
Speaker 1: if it's a good decision, go with it as long
Speaker 1: as you can as it continues to be a good decision,
Speaker 1: if it's got playing over Romo. If you say, if
Speaker 1: it's a bad decision, then you gotta get it. You
Speaker 1: reverse the decision as soon as you see that it's
Speaker 1: a bad decision. That makes the key to it. So
Speaker 1: in this case, if it may be fifty fifty on
Speaker 1: these six or seven wide receivers, who plays will make
Speaker 1: your decision and then it will sort itself out. How
Speaker 1: many catches as Hearns have had to the last game
Speaker 1: he had one or two? The four four? Yeah, four.
Speaker 1: See that's a problem. What's he what's he got you?
Speaker 1: What's he giving you? Yeah, that's a fair, fair point.
Speaker 1: They didn't pay him enough. That says he's got a
Speaker 1: play or he's got a stick. So that's a good analysis.
Speaker 1: And I've been with Brian on this since camp. I
Speaker 1: think Gallop, aside from Tavon Austin, he's rare in terms
Speaker 1: of speed. Gallops maybe your most explosive receiver. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of potential to help you down
Speaker 1: the field. So yeah, the question is do you give
Speaker 1: him the snaps and live with some of the growing pains.
Speaker 1: You can't. But when he makes a drop that leads
Speaker 1: to an it's a huge side. It kills you. It
Speaker 1: does it's a huge play in the game. But you
Speaker 1: know what, I drafted this kid to play. I drafted him.
Speaker 1: He's He's different than what Mickey's talking about with Alan Hearns.
Speaker 1: It's a different player, Alan Hearns. I love you're running
Speaker 1: inside and catching the slant and maybe getting in behind,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of fitting in behind the linebackers. But
Speaker 1: I need some explosive plays. I need some downfield plays.
Speaker 1: I need my line, like Micky's talking about again, to
Speaker 1: protect ye. I mean we've seen Hearns catch a pass
Speaker 1: and run. Yeah, I've seen Gallup do it. See that's
Speaker 1: I mean, Gallup would have made that play in the
Speaker 1: Carolina game. You just seeing a guy go and finish.
Speaker 1: You've just seen that. They just don't have anybody on
Speaker 1: the outside that's doing that. It seems like it's a
Speaker 1: catch a three yard game and a fall down, you know,
Speaker 1: or get down, unless it's unless you're throwing the ball
Speaker 1: to number ten and then all of a sudden you're like,
Speaker 1: well this could go, this could go, you know. And
Speaker 1: even when he was running backwards and I thought, man,
Speaker 1: if he just got the corner, yeah, he was gonna
Speaker 1: get six seven yards After all that stuff going on,
Speaker 1: He's one guy that you're kind of okay with him
Speaker 1: doing that because it's he might have a chance. It
Speaker 1: wasn't on the defensive made the stuff on that play. Um,
Speaker 1: I can't remember. He was moving right trying to catch
Speaker 1: the right I can't think there was a free safety
Speaker 1: that was it that Yeah, that's right. He did get him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the other free safety was it McDougall. Actually, their safeties
Speaker 1: played really well other than just other than just you
Speaker 1: know or McDougall. The other they played well, right they did. Okay,
Speaker 1: we have a phone call, but we're right up against it.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna go ahead and go with the phone
Speaker 1: call anyway. Richie in Arizona first up on Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Good morning, gentlemen. I've got a lifelong Cowboy friend over
Speaker 1: forty years, and I've had the highs and the lows,
Speaker 1: the heartbreak and the ecstasy watching this team. But I'm
Speaker 1: wondering now I'm beginning to lose respect for what I
Speaker 1: would call the management side of the Cowboys, and I
Speaker 1: think many of the fans are as well. There needs
Speaker 1: to be greater concern about the state Right now. We're
Speaker 1: not a competitive team. We're almost a laughing stock. And
Speaker 1: what happens if we start losing people coming to the games,
Speaker 1: buying the various things, joining the websites, following the news,
Speaker 1: getting the TV commercials, the support for a team that
Speaker 1: seems to be going nowhere. I would like to see
Speaker 1: this team take seriously the fact that we're not a
Speaker 1: very good team. We need to do something. I've always
Speaker 1: had great respect for Jason Garrett. I'm beginning to lose that.
Speaker 1: I think he has his head in the sand. Those
Speaker 1: are my comments. Can we ask you a question or
Speaker 1: say they need to do something? What would you like
Speaker 1: to do? Thank you very much. For example, every game,
Speaker 1: the very first play always is Elliot up the middle.
Speaker 1: One year, we get that every single game. Why not
Speaker 1: in one game have a screen pass or something to
Speaker 1: open up the game. When it's a third and two,
Speaker 1: we always go to a pass once in a while.
Speaker 1: Why don't we run the ball and didn't get it
Speaker 1: and get it? Yeah, I know, but that's a rarity.
Speaker 1: But you would think you would get that. That was
Speaker 1: one of your reasons, sir. But you know what, the
Speaker 1: first play of the game was Elliott and he gained
Speaker 1: five yards didn't Yeah, but that's not good to open
Speaker 1: up in a pass against the fatal plays we don't
Speaker 1: see very We don't see much dynamics in our play calling.
Speaker 1: We just simply don't, sir. If you want to tell
Speaker 1: me you have a problem with the owner general manager,
Speaker 1: I'll you know, I'll listen to you. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: how you started your argument or your your points. Is
Speaker 1: that your biggest concern? No, My point is I think
Speaker 1: we're going to lose our huge fan base because our
Speaker 1: product is not particularly good right now. Okay, there doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to be a pressing need. Okay, make it better.
Speaker 1: So you're trying to say you're telling me then you
Speaker 1: don't agree with what the owner and general managers doing
Speaker 1: with this football team. No, okay, don't. Did you did
Speaker 1: you like the first plays of the games two years
Speaker 1: ago in twenty sixteen? I thought Da was one of
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterbacks every two years ago and then what
Speaker 1: Change Seek was pretty good too. Yeah. Well, I think
Speaker 1: the fact is that he's not particularly actor pastor, and
Speaker 1: I think he's lost confidence and he gets sacked a
Speaker 1: way too much and he doesn't have the lying to
Speaker 1: give him time. Well you think it goes as the
Speaker 1: leading rusher in the league and had fifteen touchdowns. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very exciting. That was a wonderful year. Yea. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of zeke up the middle too. Yeah. You know,
Speaker 1: if if you want to come on and talk about
Speaker 1: the owner of the general managers is you know, and
Speaker 1: and he'll he'll listen to your discussion. He will. He's
Speaker 1: a good listener. But you know, I mean, yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think that if you you know, if you want
Speaker 1: to go with that, by all means, you know, But
Speaker 1: he's got big shoulders, you know. You know everybody acts
Speaker 1: like that. He doesn't care, like this is not bothering him, right,
Speaker 1: That is the furthest thing from the truth. Trust me,
Speaker 1: I spent six years with this man in that room.
Speaker 1: This kills him. And we were bad. We were bad
Speaker 1: for three straight years, and that killed him. It got
Speaker 1: to the point where he went out and said, you know,
Speaker 1: I got to do something different. Way do you go
Speaker 1: out and got parcels? And Parcels comes in and takes
Speaker 1: the crap that we drafted and brought here and goes
Speaker 1: to a playoff game with that. So don't let's not
Speaker 1: act like that. He doesn't care. This bothers him, you know,
Speaker 1: And whatever he has to do to fix it, he
Speaker 1: will because he understands that you're right, there's things about
Speaker 1: this team that aren't right. But but to sit there
Speaker 1: and you know, if you have, if you have all
Speaker 1: these things, you want to say, oh well, I don't
Speaker 1: like him running on third down. I don't like him
Speaker 1: doing this on you know. Okay, but if you want
Speaker 1: to if his main point I believe was he was
Speaker 1: he was critical of the front office, he lost confidence. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if that's the case, trust me on this, Trust me
Speaker 1: on this. He cares a lot more than you even
Speaker 1: ever will believe about. You know. I think one thing
Speaker 1: that's being lost a little bit is they have made
Speaker 1: a lot of changes in the last few months, a
Speaker 1: lot on the coaching staff. Now, you can argue that
Speaker 1: they've done the right thing, unless unless you're changing at
Speaker 1: the very top. Maybe it's not a lot of change
Speaker 1: in reality, but yeah, and you can question that. You
Speaker 1: can question and they've changed out this roster. God, it's
Speaker 1: the youngest team in the league right now. Yeah, don't
Speaker 1: worry about that. But the question, yes, now you can
Speaker 1: ask did they make the right decisions? But don't tell
Speaker 1: me they haven't tried to do things in the offseason
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Speaker 1: on the field. And I think the other problem out
Speaker 1: there is don't interpret their public stances Jerry's Jason from
Speaker 1: what goes on behind the scenes. Yeah, because I guarantee
Speaker 1: you they're not happy. Sure, right, They're just trying to
Speaker 1: what they what they tell the media, what they say
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Speaker 1: you have another question, I will, I will, has the
Speaker 1: turnover at offensive line coaching coaches on the offensive line
Speaker 1: affected this unit? M as the turnover? If you look
Speaker 1: at how this this is the one position that if
Speaker 1: you go through Bill Callahan and then Frank Pollock and
Speaker 1: now Paul alexample, not just this coaching change this year,
Speaker 1: but when you go if you go out, if you
Speaker 1: go through, because these guys have all they started with
Speaker 1: Bill is young and then they grew with with Pollock.
Speaker 1: But has it affected him a little bit? You know?
Speaker 1: We asked that same question after Callahan left. Yeah, now
Speaker 1: Pollock was here running game Moses, but it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: are we in a transition now? It was like Pollock
Speaker 1: was kind of taking some heat, right, and now he's gone,
Speaker 1: and now you got a new guy, and it's starting
Speaker 1: to sound like he might be taking some heat, is it? Personnel?
Speaker 1: I love Joe Looney. See that's what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: that's a great answer. Mickey. By the way, did we
Speaker 1: make enough of a deal about Travis Frederick not being
Speaker 1: in there as the focal point for this offense line?
Speaker 1: I think we've tried, you know, but but it's but
Speaker 1: it's not you know, it's it's hard to sit there
Speaker 1: and really blame Joe Looney. I'm not blaming it. No, No,
Speaker 1: I know that blames terrible, terrible. I'm sorry about that. No, No,
Speaker 1: he's a solid player, but we're talking about an all
Speaker 1: Pro guy that's kind of the quarterback there pre snap,
Speaker 1: you know, and especially with a rookie next to you, right,
Speaker 1: I look at that first, and I don't think Joe's
Speaker 1: been bad. I just think how about the right tackle though,
Speaker 1: because it affected away the right scaring the right tackle.
Speaker 1: Yes see, thank you, Mickey, because that, to me, that's
Speaker 1: that's where I want to focus, is you know, the
Speaker 1: young guy is going to struggle. We we we all
Speaker 1: talked about that. We've talked about that since Oxnard, Yes,
Speaker 1: but we didn't How has it affected the right tackle?
Speaker 1: You know, the right tackle looked like he was coming
Speaker 1: along and then all of a sudden, and this is
Speaker 1: nothing against Paul Alexander, but he's been a line coach
Speaker 1: a long time in his league. He coaches a certain way.
Speaker 1: He says, Okay, high hand, low hand, or footwork this,
Speaker 1: or put your head here, you know, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you get a guy like Wow Collins who's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm finally getting this, and now you're asking him, okay,
Speaker 1: think about this. And maybe the argument is, well, if
Speaker 1: he's good enough, he should be able to just do
Speaker 1: whatever Paul Alexander asked him to ask him to do. See,
Speaker 1: I I thought the second half of last year, I
Speaker 1: not thought I saw it. LC came around, no question,
Speaker 1: no question. Now it's almost like he's back to where
Speaker 1: he was to start last year. Yeah, he's struggling. He's
Speaker 1: struggling in pass coverage. Um. And and that's the that's
Speaker 1: kind of to me, the scary part that you know,
Speaker 1: he's I mean, he was improving, improving, and now I
Speaker 1: don't see the next step. But you know, it's been
Speaker 1: it's been kind of everywhere on the line they had
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, had trouble there. I mean there's
Speaker 1: been leaks up the middle. Uh, Frank Clark getting past
Speaker 1: Hyrn Smith, who, by the way, you know he left
Speaker 1: briefly and came back with a chess deal when the
Speaker 1: locker room came back played, I think didn't miss a snap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know it's it's as there hasn't been one
Speaker 1: spot in the line where it's been perfect. See the
Speaker 1: thing at center, and maybe we didn't express it well enough.
Speaker 1: Is it's not like Travis Frederick was just a guy
Speaker 1: and anybody that's why should probably see me explain this.
Speaker 1: If it's a guy, his levels here and the backups
Speaker 1: here talking for those two are not watching. Mickey put
Speaker 1: his right hand up above his head and his left
Speaker 1: hand was about chin levels. Yeah, yeah, so about a
Speaker 1: foot apart. Okay, Now you've got Travis Frederick who's way up.
Speaker 1: Now he's reaching way above his head, the backup off
Speaker 1: the ground, and the backup still at that same level.
Speaker 1: So the gap between the two is huge. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think you're right, and I think that's what causes you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, Travis Fredericks, how many five time pro bowler,
Speaker 1: four time Pro bowler every year he's been here not
Speaker 1: just and one of the best centers in the league,
Speaker 1: and you could probably make an argument for the best.
Speaker 1: And now you're replacing them with just a guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're not replacing just the guy. What's what's funny
Speaker 1: is the guy. And Mickey's right about this. The guy
Speaker 1: that you're you put in there, as we've said, has
Speaker 1: have been bad. The problem is the guy, like Mickey said,
Speaker 1: is two feet above the guy you have in there,
Speaker 1: and that and that makes it hard. That's the that's
Speaker 1: the thing. But I just was curious if, if, if
Speaker 1: turnover has affected this group more than any of the
Speaker 1: other groups on the staff. Yeah, more so than this personnel,
Speaker 1: then more so than personnel. And then taking consideration tied
Speaker 1: in and I'm talking Witton and Hannah from two years ago,
Speaker 1: sure compared to what you have from now Swam and Jarwin.
Speaker 1: See now this leads me, This leads me to my question.
Speaker 1: If you don't mind I spill you got a call,
Speaker 1: I don't want to we do have a call. I
Speaker 1: will take call first. I'll take the next question. I
Speaker 1: want to get to him. Peyton and Minnesota next up
Speaker 1: on talking Cowboys. Hello Peyton, Hey, guys, um I thought
Speaker 1: that first caller started off pretty well, Yeah, pretty poor.
Speaker 1: Happens to all of us. I can't I can't completely
Speaker 1: blame this offensive staff. I think the players are failing
Speaker 1: to execute a lot of time. Okay. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, though, um, this is the coaching staff in
Speaker 1: front office who brought in the personnel itself. True, So
Speaker 1: I think that this team just really miss evaluated the
Speaker 1: players on it, like what they have, like overvalued them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I just think they're so stubborn that
Speaker 1: they go in every single year is thinking, oh, we
Speaker 1: don't need to sign free agents, we can just draft,
Speaker 1: and it just it bites them in the butt. Is
Speaker 1: starting to show. I mean they tried to get Sammy
Speaker 1: Watkins though, didn't they. Yeah, that's the word. I'm not
Speaker 1: beating you up here, sir. Really not happen. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I mean, you we kind of
Speaker 1: go one way, we say, boy, they need to go
Speaker 1: get free agents, Boy, they need to do this, and
Speaker 1: then you get a Sammy Watkins and you're kind of
Speaker 1: like going, well, what were they thinking there? Yeah, Brian
Speaker 1: know this isn't as big of a point, but I
Speaker 1: mean Will McClay like he's done great drafting, but to me,
Speaker 1: his pro player, per Snelsie, has been awful. I mean
Speaker 1: he trades for jahab Ward. Well that didn't really work out. No,
Speaker 1: it don't work out for the Raiders either. But the
Speaker 1: best player he's brought in is David Irving, who can't
Speaker 1: go a season without being suspended. How about what they
Speaker 1: brought in Joe Thomas, you know, at the linebacker spot.
Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna say, I think you're in preseason.
Speaker 1: We saw some good things from Joe Thomas, right right,
Speaker 1: and I agree, But then again, I mean, okay, don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong. La Van Reestie's been good so far.
Speaker 1: It looks like Antoine Woods Woods miss evaluate Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: and Jalen Smith where they were at, and then we
Speaker 1: have to go to spend a first round ticking off
Speaker 1: all linebacker. Well no, I mean yeah, okay, well then
Speaker 1: let's focus on he's gonna miss some time. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is where you're gonna see. Yeah, I agree. How about
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods. Yeah, yeah, there you go. See. And I've
Speaker 1: been in pro personnel. I appreciate you back and forth
Speaker 1: with this man, I really do, But this is where
Speaker 1: you get into you know a little bit of like
Speaker 1: you say, well, I don't want to draft, and I
Speaker 1: need to sign free agents. And then when you miss
Speaker 1: on free agents like he used to do in the
Speaker 1: early two thousands, and Mickey would you know, lose his
Speaker 1: mind because of it, and I don't blame him for
Speaker 1: doing that, then you say, well, you need to draft better.
Speaker 1: So we're I don't know, man, I just don't know
Speaker 1: where we you know, I think, no, no, sure, go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead. But um, I think this is realistic. I've
Speaker 1: done research. I'm not just throwing this out like it's maddened. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think you can trade a third, maybe a second.
Speaker 1: I don't know. The second might be too much. I
Speaker 1: think you can go out and get Amari Cooper. I
Speaker 1: don't know we have the pro I don't know we
Speaker 1: have the quarterback to give him the ball consistently. That's fair,
Speaker 1: that's a fair point. I think the Raiders are really bad.
Speaker 1: They want draft takes. Johnker is a long term contract.
Speaker 1: Amary Cooper's he has a fifth year option that's not
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. So the Raiders would say ten million dollars
Speaker 1: next year. I think I think there's just someone that
Speaker 1: you have to go get You can't be throwing the
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin on third down in a critical play in
Speaker 1: a game like that, just can't be Dak Prescott's like option.
Speaker 1: He needs this better talent around him. So okay, so
Speaker 1: what receiver you're getting rid of him? Uh? Terence Wi Williams.
Speaker 1: I know, like the Fali doesn't really help you, but right,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the writings on the wall at him. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got another question. You're in Minnesota. You pay attention
Speaker 1: to the Vikings. Oh God, my friends a hard time.
Speaker 1: Trust me, they they tried. You rather have the Neil
Speaker 1: Hunter or Randy Gregory. Oh, Neil Hunter for sure. I
Speaker 1: see there's that. Yeah, there's your there's your question right
Speaker 1: there about drafting. Yeah, drafting, I mean you took Grandy
Speaker 1: Gregory last pick. Appreciate the appreciate Vikings took d Neil Hunter,
Speaker 1: and you're very familiar. He was not productive at Las,
Speaker 1: not at all at all. But you saw the Mike
Speaker 1: zimmer good eye for those defensive players in twenty years
Speaker 1: and he got his second contract. So I appreciate the
Speaker 1: caller thinking, you know, he's trying to think about offensive.
Speaker 1: So are we passed, thinking, oh, they got to trade
Speaker 1: picks for safety help. After watching this offense through three
Speaker 1: games and saying, well, that's that's what we need to
Speaker 1: go do. Yeah, I mean to me, Jeff, he stays healthy,
Speaker 1: I know, and they're they're fin there. But when I
Speaker 1: watch watching this offense, it's like, Okay, where where are
Speaker 1: we really having problems? Next question? Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1: If I can just roll into it again, thank you
Speaker 1: for the call. That was well done. Tell me this
Speaker 1: is the most confusing area of this team. This is
Speaker 1: the most confusing area of this team. Okay, I've been
Speaker 1: saying wide receiver for a while because I think they
Speaker 1: need to figure out what they have, who's best in
Speaker 1: certain situations and maybe roll with a slightly trimmed down rotation.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what that is because I don't,
Speaker 1: like Mickey said, there's not a lot of differentiation between them.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Tavon has unique traits and Beasley's
Speaker 1: going to be your guy. But I think that's got
Speaker 1: it somehow. That's got to resolve itself in the next
Speaker 1: couple of games. I think that'll help dac out. I
Speaker 1: think it needs to resolve itself in the next couple
Speaker 1: of practices, Well maybe that too, be that toolan, But
Speaker 1: but I want to I want to let's go and
Speaker 1: I want them on the practice field working with the court.
Speaker 1: But you see the discussion that we had, Like I
Speaker 1: love Michael gallis potential too, but in the short term,
Speaker 1: are you better off going with a veteran guy? And like,
Speaker 1: would you make arguments? It's my point, like you can
Speaker 1: go anywhere with this really no, I mean, what mean
Speaker 1: veteran guy instead of Gallop? A Hearns who's been around
Speaker 1: the league more. But does he give you as much juice?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why, that's why it's kind of maddening
Speaker 1: to me as these conversations because I don't really know
Speaker 1: the end. And if he fails, then you go back,
Speaker 1: I mean, you go to get there. So you're going
Speaker 1: to be playing Gallop all the time anymore. If you
Speaker 1: were gonna pick your top three receivers, would your two
Speaker 1: Munchkin receivers be in that? There's no question they would be. Yes,
Speaker 1: the four receivers I want. Okay, you got a four
Speaker 1: receiver rotation. It's what I'm good with. Okay, and you
Speaker 1: got so you got Beasley and you got Austin, You
Speaker 1: got Thompson and then neither Gallup or Herns. That's kind
Speaker 1: of where I'm at right now. You got Rice Butler
Speaker 1: in the man and maybe and maybe maybe we were wrong,
Speaker 1: but when we were watching training camp, were we not
Speaker 1: enamored with Beasley and Tavon Austin being on the field
Speaker 1: at the same time. Can glad you remember that that
Speaker 1: can have And I don't think we've seen that, have we? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Maybe not much, not much. So you go, you go
Speaker 1: four wide. See that's I'm seeing that Ben kind of
Speaker 1: doing that. And so you got the two slot guys
Speaker 1: in Cole and Tavon, and then there's a lot of
Speaker 1: four wide in this game. Now some of it was swam,
Speaker 1: but they've done it. They tried to spread them out.
Speaker 1: I think the most confusing thing to this about this area,
Speaker 1: about this team to me is that offensive line. Okay,
Speaker 1: because I maybe confusing why? Yeah, confusing why they haven't
Speaker 1: played with the consistency that I thought differently. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: all right, we're all right about we're all right about
Speaker 1: the loss of Frederick, But man, I mean, if you
Speaker 1: tell me, and another question I'm gonna ask you guys too,
Speaker 1: is offensively, What can you hang your hat on? You know,
Speaker 1: I thought I could hang my hat on this offensive line,
Speaker 1: and I don't. And Mickey's brought this point up for
Speaker 1: the last three weeks, you know, protect his quarterback. He's
Speaker 1: got no shot, right, And they haven't been. And I
Speaker 1: think the thing it's confusing to me is I haven't
Speaker 1: seen the consistency from the group. They're on pace to
Speaker 1: give up fifty nine sacks right now. Fifty nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the most the Cowboys have ever given up in a
Speaker 1: sixteen game season is sixty Dak was sack when they
Speaker 1: had that great year or two years ago, twenty three times. Boy,
Speaker 1: we keep reliving that revisionist history. There don't not revisionists.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying back and back when this line was
Speaker 1: he lead, no, no, and that's that's that's that's free
Speaker 1: playing right tackle and Ron Learry playing left guard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Travis Frederick Blaine say and then exactly, and I'm
Speaker 1: with you. But I guess my point is I think
Speaker 1: they entered the season before Travis is deal was dealing
Speaker 1: with this illness, right, that we can still hang our
Speaker 1: hat on this line being yeah, that's potentially elite again,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying offensively. I wanted to believe that
Speaker 1: I can hang my hat on this group. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can. Well, you can running
Speaker 1: the ball, it seems like. And then we just get
Speaker 1: down because but maybe that's what it's going to take.
Speaker 1: I didn't grab the stats. I got here late. I
Speaker 1: hit how many times do you get stopped by like
Speaker 1: a train? Like? How about how about how about the
Speaker 1: train tracks the lights down, the gate down, and there's
Speaker 1: no train for like almost fifteen minutes? Yeah, before you decide,
Speaker 1: I got a bail. Yeah, so I don't have the stats.
Speaker 1: But where's where's Zeke? So? Is he likes a fine
Speaker 1: for Mickey? Is this like? Is he a top five
Speaker 1: rusher right now? In the way? I don't know. He
Speaker 1: gave me all the rankings on the other stuff. So
Speaker 1: what he's got one twenty and then he got eighty
Speaker 1: seven last week? I mean, he want to tell you what.
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Speaker 1: six to seven, all right, now, who is the leading
Speaker 1: rusher in the National Football League through three weeks? I
Speaker 1: have a guest, there is and when have a guess
Speaker 1: it's not Leveon Bell, not Levion Bell, Nope, and it's oh,
Speaker 1: it's a guy in the rams. Yeah. Yeah, Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: is fourth. Oh geez, two hundred and fifty five yards
Speaker 1: every week, four point one yards per carrie. Kareem Hunt,
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. No, no, no, no no, I'm a comar castrick.
Speaker 1: My homes just going nuts. Good teams. Yeah, Albert Kamara
Speaker 1: catches a bunch of balls, yes he does, but I
Speaker 1: don't think he's leading the league in rushing. So there
Speaker 1: is a tie for the league lead two hundred and
Speaker 1: the tie for the league lead. A tie for the
Speaker 1: league lead with two hundred and seventy four yards. Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott and Matt Brita of San Franco, San Francisco. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got hurt in the game that we played preseason.
Speaker 1: He's averaging eight point six yards per carry. Yeah. Of
Speaker 1: course they lost Jerry McKinnon, right, who may have got
Speaker 1: hurt in that same Yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How many carries does zekecalf? Yes, forty eight carries for
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy four yards, averaging five points seven
Speaker 1: yards a tote, while Barrita has thirty two carries for
Speaker 1: two seventy four eight point six yards a carry. How
Speaker 1: many is Girly have car Gurley has sixty two carries,
Speaker 1: Elliott has forty eight. The differences is the Rams are three?
Speaker 1: You oh, yeah. A lot of offense out there in
Speaker 1: La yep, yeah, a lot of these though. They have
Speaker 1: a pretty good running back Christian McCaffrey coming off a
Speaker 1: huge out and eighty four last week. He's at two
Speaker 1: seventy one, so he's just three yards behind the leaders. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and of course he catches the ball a lot. And
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson is number five in the league behind Gurley
Speaker 1: at two hundred and thirty six yards. Sequon Barkley is six,
Speaker 1: and then James Conner. Nice pick up by the but
Speaker 1: with Adrian Peterson out there in Washington. Yeah, didn't see
Speaker 1: that one. Did not see that one. All right, you
Speaker 1: have another question. Forgot what was your point? I know
Speaker 1: I forgot why I brought it up because what we
Speaker 1: were talking about the offensive line? Yeah, because I was like,
Speaker 1: they're running the ball, well yeah, and that see that's
Speaker 1: the thing. It's like, it's encouraging that they're doing what
Speaker 1: they're kind of the formula says has success for them.
Speaker 1: But when they're in third and one, in third and
Speaker 1: two like they were the other day, they're not converting
Speaker 1: those manageable downs. And that's what's discouraging about this offense
Speaker 1: right now. It's one thing to say against Carolina, oh,
Speaker 1: well you're behind the chains, And what's discouraging about this
Speaker 1: offense is passing game. But see, the narrative was they'll
Speaker 1: never be able to run the ball because they can't
Speaker 1: pass it. Right, Well, they're running the ball. Yeah, They're
Speaker 1: putting themselves in position to be efficient in the passing game,
Speaker 1: and they're not being a fan. It's not like they've
Speaker 1: overly emphasized the run either. And the only reason that
Speaker 1: they don't rank up there, and I don't know where
Speaker 1: they are probably their six or seventh in the league
Speaker 1: and rushing offense right now. I'll have to look it up,
Speaker 1: but the only reason they're not in the top three
Speaker 1: is because they aren't winning games, yeah, right, and not
Speaker 1: patting those stats in the fourth quarters, right, I think
Speaker 1: their quarterback has about seventy one yards rushing himself, Am
Speaker 1: I right about that? Fifty and twenty one something like that.
Speaker 1: I'm six point one to carry. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: Do you have another question to pose, Brian? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: will ask you guys. This is going to go now
Speaker 1: to the defensive side of the ball, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say it was Sean Lee, you know, likely out for
Speaker 1: a few games. Who do you need more from Layton
Speaker 1: Vanderesh or Jalen Smith to make up for that? But
Speaker 1: I'll put that on the fan pulse right now. Yeah, question,
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh or Jalen Smith? Who do you need more
Speaker 1: in that absence of Seawan Lee Jalen Smith? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I say that because I just can't count on, you know,
Speaker 1: the rookie. It's a lot of tackles that you Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great what he's doing right now, but I'm just
Speaker 1: not going to hang my head on the rookie right
Speaker 1: off the bat. But see, I need somebody not only
Speaker 1: to make tackles, but to take charge. Get everybody a
Speaker 1: line there up organized. That's a bigger point right there,
Speaker 1: making because that's what you miss from Seawan Lee. I
Speaker 1: think from a physical standpoint, you know, vander esh Hey
Speaker 1: had eleven tackles in thirty three snaps. That's one every
Speaker 1: three snaps. Is it a coincidence though, that he take
Speaker 1: nothing away from Vanderesh? Was it a coincidence that's he
Speaker 1: had had their big drive when Lee went out of
Speaker 1: the game the other day. I mean the drive that
Speaker 1: basically put the game out of out of reach, the
Speaker 1: last drive that made it. Yeah, twenty four made it
Speaker 1: twenty four. Yeah, it is a little bit of a
Speaker 1: concern there. That was when Lee went out and they
Speaker 1: went seventy two yards in ten plays, and that because
Speaker 1: it was seventeen to six. Cowboys had just kicked a
Speaker 1: field goal to make it seventeen to six. If they
Speaker 1: get a stop there, then they can have a chance.
Speaker 1: But they didn't win seventy two yards in ten plays.
Speaker 1: I would say Jayalen too, who you got, Jalen? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be jail and the and
Speaker 1: the reasons everybody's given is I think, absolutely right, you're
Speaker 1: gonna need this scene to get held together. I think
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith is becoming that leader that you need. Um.
Speaker 1: I think that you're gonna need him to make some
Speaker 1: of those whether it's the sacks, you know, that's something
Speaker 1: you know, he had a chance get a sack the
Speaker 1: other day just kind of let Russell Wilson, but it
Speaker 1: was an incomplete pass. I think that you're going to
Speaker 1: really really have to lean on on Jalen in this
Speaker 1: football game. And and I think that Layton Vanderesh will
Speaker 1: come along, but you're gonna have some guys who are
Speaker 1: gonna have to step up as well. I mentioned we
Speaker 1: talked about Joe Thomas stuff. You know, does this mean
Speaker 1: now that you know Chris Covington is going to be active,
Speaker 1: how much is he gonna play Damian Wilson? How much
Speaker 1: does he you know, can you get from him as well?
Speaker 1: So as a whole, this linebacking corps has got to
Speaker 1: has got to find a way to make things right.
Speaker 1: They constructed this roster with the with this, with this
Speaker 1: in my mind, yeah, you know, everybody wants you to
Speaker 1: to draft you should have drafted the kid Calvin Ridley
Speaker 1: or DJ Moore one of those guys. But was as
Speaker 1: much about the future as it was it was this year.
Speaker 1: But it was about this year and and this this
Speaker 1: is just this is the sad reality of Sean Lee
Speaker 1: that we I hate. And we have conversations about Sean
Speaker 1: Lee as being a great football player with eleven tackles
Speaker 1: in a game. But we don't even touch on that.
Speaker 1: We talk about him be injured for another time, however,
Speaker 1: But just with Sean Lee at the age that he's at,
Speaker 1: even without an injury history, it was prudent on their
Speaker 1: part to get a young linebacker. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: make a decision and this is you know, hopefully this
Speaker 1: is not too much for shattering, but I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to make a decision depending on that at
Speaker 1: the end of the year. All right, let's go to
Speaker 1: Scott in Houston. We got a few minutes left here
Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys. Hello Scott, how are you doing, guys? Great? Okay,
Speaker 1: Hello guys. That's got a question about the turnover margin. Um,
Speaker 1: what the turnover margin is? And if you're going to
Speaker 1: play the silent football that Jason Garrett wants to play,
Speaker 1: running the ball join o'clock, you gotta be positive on
Speaker 1: that to win game. So it's minus two turnover margins
Speaker 1: minus two. Right now, they've turned it over four times
Speaker 1: and they've gotten two fumble recoveries. No picks. See, that's
Speaker 1: the thing. I thought that with this this secondary that
Speaker 1: would have more picks. I know, Jeff Heath had a
Speaker 1: chance in the Carolina game for one, and he dove
Speaker 1: and it fell in between his arms. But I thought
Speaker 1: that we would probably see a little bit more of
Speaker 1: that from what we were gathering in the preseason with
Speaker 1: the way they were playing. Ball was on the turf
Speaker 1: a couple of different times too in the in the
Speaker 1: Seattle game and just bounced right back up into their hands.
Speaker 1: While in that drive we were just talking about it
Speaker 1: started off with Penny fumbling, right, Yeah, it could have
Speaker 1: been huge play. They haven't had the sack fumble yet
Speaker 1: and well, I'd take I take that back. They had
Speaker 1: it with Damian Wilson and the Giants game. But we
Speaker 1: had as much pressure as they've been able to generate,
Speaker 1: they haven't been able to kind of get one or
Speaker 1: two more of those. And you know that will help
Speaker 1: that offense out immensely. Well, I'll tell you another thing,
Speaker 1: and and and maybe it's a hidden yards play, but
Speaker 1: think about what happened. And we were mentioning Tavon Austin
Speaker 1: as well, and Tavon had that punt return that got
Speaker 1: him all the way out to the forty two. He
Speaker 1: fields the ball to twenty one on the other side
Speaker 1: of the field Byron Jones gets a holding call totally
Speaker 1: away from the play. So instead of the ball on
Speaker 1: their own forty two with a chance they get, they
Speaker 1: get the ball on their own nine, they get they
Speaker 1: get a motion penalty, and then we go with a
Speaker 1: false start. We go with a false start. Next thing,
Speaker 1: you know where they're fighting out of their own end.
Speaker 1: So six yard line, Yeah, those are those are just
Speaker 1: you know, this offense with the way it's going right now,
Speaker 1: that they need all the short fields that they can
Speaker 1: get until they get some confidence that they can do
Speaker 1: some things. I think I have special teams. You ought
Speaker 1: to just take a touchback and a fair catch on
Speaker 1: punchs and don't risk a penalty. Yes, every play is
Speaker 1: a penalty, not just the Cowboys. Every game you watch, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a penalty. That was a thirty three yard penalty.
Speaker 1: They just just stand at the line of scrimmage on
Speaker 1: the punt and let the guy catch a fair catch.
Speaker 1: Don't get called for blocking the back or hole. If
Speaker 1: college football, you can take a fair catch at the
Speaker 1: five yard line now on the kickoff. On the kickoff, yeah,
Speaker 1: you might as well just do that. Well, there's a
Speaker 1: college game. Yeah, yeah different, Maybe run a college offense.
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