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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. Oh Happy Tuesday. We have in the

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Are we on to the Lions yet? And

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Speaker 1: I don't think think so bad? I don't think so

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Speaker 1: thinks I've already watched tape on him. What about you, Mick,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so Uh. There's no twenty four hour

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Speaker 1: rule when it comes to a week like this week.

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Speaker 1: Brian does have that rule, though he was grinding on

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Speaker 1: tape this morning before the show. Yeah, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: all right. Let me I got a question right off

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Speaker 1: the top, because we will dwell a lot on what

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Speaker 1: happened Sunday as well. It puts in prospective Lions week

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Speaker 1: and which team in the league has the number one

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Speaker 1: pass defense in this National Football League? Number one past

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Speaker 1: number one pass defense in the National Football League. It

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Speaker 1: isn't one of those teams that played last night pittsburgher

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay No give you that where they were throwing

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Speaker 1: it all over the lot. Let's go back to your

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Speaker 1: theory last show about how the numbers are skewed a

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Speaker 1: little bit. They can be skewed a little bit. But

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Speaker 1: number one pass defense in the league. We're talking passing

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Speaker 1: yards given up in the first three games of this season.

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Speaker 1: It's a really bad team, right, Maybe not, maybe this

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Speaker 1: is this football team. They only gave up one hundred sixty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've got a vote for Dallas, got it that vote

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Speaker 1: for Dallas. Vote for Dallas, Okay, because their number three overall,

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Speaker 1: one of the Cowboys offensively. What's their pass offense ranking

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Speaker 1: in the league thirty one. I believe there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of their second to last in passing yards. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of thirty first rankings with the offense right now,

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Speaker 1: points per game, third down conversions, it's not okay. So

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Speaker 1: the number one pass defense and the National Football League

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Speaker 1: is the Detroit Lions. Okay, coming in here this week.

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Speaker 1: So we got the number the second to last pass

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Speaker 1: offense versus the number one pass defense, which limited Tom

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Speaker 1: yards passing Sunday night. So there you have it. That

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Speaker 1: sets the tone for Lions weight who calls their plays?

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Speaker 1: Patricia that Patricia's no Paul pascalon for New England. It's

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Speaker 1: Detroit has the number. Well, where are you going to,

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Speaker 1: Josh m Josh what would they beat? Josh McDaniel, McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: did Detroit beat? Yeah? New England? Yeah? Okay? And how

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Speaker 1: many yards passing? They had? One hundred and twenty net

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Speaker 1: He's questioning New England's ability to move a lee. I

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Speaker 1: got you. We're not canny, we're not talking. We're talking

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Speaker 1: to Brians here. Yeah, all right, And by the way,

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Speaker 1: over the course of the next hour, we'll get into

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Speaker 1: play calling too, which was the topic djure yesterday at

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Speaker 1: the press conference. Well, I thought I got into it

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Speaker 1: let me okay, Brian's got some questions. He's gonna pose

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Speaker 1: in the next hour. We're gonna take your phone calls

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Speaker 1: as well. Eight eight eight eight five five two two

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Speaker 1: ninety seven. I got a tweet from someone yesterday saying

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Speaker 1: we need to take more phone calls. Well, we need

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Speaker 1: to have better phone calls. And what we had yesterday

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Speaker 1: that was that Okay, bring it all right, See Bill,

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Speaker 1: Joe and flower Mound and Dick's all right, Bill set

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Speaker 1: the standard. All right. So here's a question that I

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Speaker 1: more sure? Right? Okay? Zeke averaged over eight yards of

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Speaker 1: That's right. You never forced them to change what they

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Speaker 1: the teams every time. I think that's right. So do

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Speaker 1: because it's a different offensive line right now. Sure, but

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Speaker 1: so that includes drops and whatever. But fifty percent of

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Speaker 1: the last few weeks, you stopped Zeke. You stopped this offense.

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Speaker 1: to get the consistency run blocking? I think I think

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Speaker 1: That's faires. What happened in Carolina They had minus runs

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Speaker 1: That's not the way you want to play offense, Eve, No,

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Speaker 1: Good morning, gentlemen. I've got a lifelong Cowboy friend over

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Speaker 1: That is the furthest thing from the truth. Trust me,

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Speaker 1: act like that. He doesn't care. This bothers him, you know,

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Speaker 1: And whatever he has to do to fix it, he

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467
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Speaker 1: to sound like he might be taking some heat, is it? Personnel?

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Speaker 1: I love Joe Looney. See that's what I'm saying, And

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Speaker 1: I think we've tried, you know, but but it's but

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Speaker 1: and really blame Joe Looney. I'm not blaming it. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I know that blames terrible, terrible. I'm sorry about that. No, No,

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Speaker 1: you know, and especially with a rookie next to you, right,

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Speaker 1: I look at that first, and I don't think Joe's

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Speaker 1: because it affected away the right scaring the right tackle.

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Speaker 1: Yes see, thank you, Mickey, because that, to me, that's

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Speaker 1: but we didn't How has it affected the right tackle?

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Speaker 1: You know, the right tackle looked like he was coming

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Speaker 1: along and then all of a sudden, and this is

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Speaker 1: nothing against Paul Alexander, but he's been a line coach

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Speaker 1: no question. Now it's almost like he's back to where

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Speaker 1: he was to start last year. Yeah, he's struggling. He's

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Speaker 1: struggling in pass coverage. Um. And and that's the that's

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Speaker 1: it's been kind of everywhere on the line they had

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, had trouble there. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: Is it's not like Travis Frederick was just a guy

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Speaker 1: hand was about chin levels. Yeah, yeah, so about a

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635
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Speaker 1: just and one of the best centers in the league,

636
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: and you could probably make an argument for the best.

637
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: And now you're replacing them with just a guy. Yeah,

638
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: and you're not replacing just the guy. What's what's funny

639
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: is the guy. And Mickey's right about this. The guy

640
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: that you're you put in there, as we've said, has

641
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: have been bad. The problem is the guy, like Mickey said,

642
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: is two feet above the guy you have in there,

643
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: and that and that makes it hard. That's the that's

644
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: the thing. But I just was curious if, if, if

645
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: turnover has affected this group more than any of the

646
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: other groups on the staff. Yeah, more so than this personnel,

647
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: then more so than personnel. And then taking consideration tied

648
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: in and I'm talking Witton and Hannah from two years ago,

649
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: sure compared to what you have from now Swam and Jarwin.

650
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: See now this leads me, This leads me to my question.

651
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: If you don't mind I spill you got a call,

652
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to we do have a call. I

653
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: will take call first. I'll take the next question. I

654
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: want to get to him. Peyton and Minnesota next up

655
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: on talking Cowboys. Hello Peyton, Hey, guys, um I thought

656
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: that first caller started off pretty well, Yeah, pretty poor.

657
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: Happens to all of us. I can't I can't completely

658
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: blame this offensive staff. I think the players are failing

659
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: to execute a lot of time. Okay. But at the

660
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: same time, though, um, this is the coaching staff in

661
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: front office who brought in the personnel itself. True, So

662
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: I think that this team just really miss evaluated the

663
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: players on it, like what they have, like overvalued them. Yeah,

664
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I just think they're so stubborn that

665
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: they go in every single year is thinking, oh, we

666
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: don't need to sign free agents, we can just draft,

667
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: and it just it bites them in the butt. Is

668
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: starting to show. I mean they tried to get Sammy

669
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: Watkins though, didn't they. Yeah, that's the word. I'm not

670
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: beating you up here, sir. Really not happen. Yeah, no,

671
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I mean, you we kind of

672
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: go one way, we say, boy, they need to go

673
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: get free agents, Boy, they need to do this, and

674
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: then you get a Sammy Watkins and you're kind of

675
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: like going, well, what were they thinking there? Yeah, Brian

676
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: know this isn't as big of a point, but I

677
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: mean Will McClay like he's done great drafting, but to me,

678
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: his pro player, per Snelsie, has been awful. I mean

679
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: he trades for jahab Ward. Well that didn't really work out. No,

680
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: it don't work out for the Raiders either. But the

681
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: best player he's brought in is David Irving, who can't

682
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: go a season without being suspended. How about what they

683
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: brought in Joe Thomas, you know, at the linebacker spot.

684
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna say, I think you're in preseason.

685
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: We saw some good things from Joe Thomas, right right,

686
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: and I agree, But then again, I mean, okay, don't

687
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: get me wrong. La Van Reestie's been good so far.

688
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: It looks like Antoine Woods Woods miss evaluate Joe Thomas

689
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: and Jalen Smith where they were at, and then we

690
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: have to go to spend a first round ticking off

691
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: all linebacker. Well no, I mean yeah, okay, well then

692
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: let's focus on he's gonna miss some time. Yeah, this

693
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 1: is where you're gonna see. Yeah, I agree. How about

694
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods. Yeah, yeah, there you go. See. And I've

695
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: been in pro personnel. I appreciate you back and forth

696
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: with this man, I really do, But this is where

697
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: you get into you know a little bit of like

698
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: you say, well, I don't want to draft, and I

699
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: need to sign free agents. And then when you miss

700
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: on free agents like he used to do in the

701
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: early two thousands, and Mickey would you know, lose his

702
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: mind because of it, and I don't blame him for

703
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: doing that, then you say, well, you need to draft better.

704
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: So we're I don't know, man, I just don't know

705
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: where we you know, I think, no, no, sure, go ahead,

706
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: go ahead. But um, I think this is realistic. I've

707
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: done research. I'm not just throwing this out like it's maddened. Okay,

708
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: I think you can trade a third, maybe a second.

709
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. The second might be too much. I

710
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: think you can go out and get Amari Cooper. I

711
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: don't know we have the pro I don't know we

712
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: have the quarterback to give him the ball consistently. That's fair,

713
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: that's a fair point. I think the Raiders are really bad.

714
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: They want draft takes. Johnker is a long term contract.

715
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: Amary Cooper's he has a fifth year option that's not

716
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. So the Raiders would say ten million dollars

717
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: next year. I think I think there's just someone that

718
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: you have to go get You can't be throwing the

719
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin on third down in a critical play in

720
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: a game like that, just can't be Dak Prescott's like option.

721
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: He needs this better talent around him. So okay, so

722
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: what receiver you're getting rid of him? Uh? Terence Wi Williams.

723
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: I know, like the Fali doesn't really help you, but right,

724
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the writings on the wall at him. So, yeah,

725
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: I got another question. You're in Minnesota. You pay attention

726
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: to the Vikings. Oh God, my friends a hard time.

727
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: Trust me, they they tried. You rather have the Neil

728
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: Hunter or Randy Gregory. Oh, Neil Hunter for sure. I

729
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: see there's that. Yeah, there's your there's your question right

730
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: there about drafting. Yeah, drafting, I mean you took Grandy

731
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: Gregory last pick. Appreciate the appreciate Vikings took d Neil Hunter,

732
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: and you're very familiar. He was not productive at Las,

733
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: not at all at all. But you saw the Mike

734
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: zimmer good eye for those defensive players in twenty years

735
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: and he got his second contract. So I appreciate the

736
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: caller thinking, you know, he's trying to think about offensive.

737
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: So are we passed, thinking, oh, they got to trade

738
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: picks for safety help. After watching this offense through three

739
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: games and saying, well, that's that's what we need to

740
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: go do. Yeah, I mean to me, Jeff, he stays healthy,

741
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: I know, and they're they're fin there. But when I

742
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: watch watching this offense, it's like, Okay, where where are

743
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: we really having problems? Next question? Yeah, here we go.

744
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: If I can just roll into it again, thank you

745
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: for the call. That was well done. Tell me this

746
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: is the most confusing area of this team. This is

747
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: the most confusing area of this team. Okay, I've been

748
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: saying wide receiver for a while because I think they

749
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: need to figure out what they have, who's best in

750
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: certain situations and maybe roll with a slightly trimmed down rotation.

751
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: And I don't know what that is because I don't,

752
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: like Mickey said, there's not a lot of differentiation between them.

753
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Tavon has unique traits and Beasley's

754
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: going to be your guy. But I think that's got

755
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: it somehow. That's got to resolve itself in the next

756
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: couple of games. I think that'll help dac out. I

757
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: think it needs to resolve itself in the next couple

758
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: of practices, Well maybe that too, be that toolan, But

759
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: but I want to I want to let's go and

760
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: I want them on the practice field working with the court.

761
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: But you see the discussion that we had, Like I

762
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: love Michael gallis potential too, but in the short term,

763
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: are you better off going with a veteran guy? And like,

764
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: would you make arguments? It's my point, like you can

765
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: go anywhere with this really no, I mean, what mean

766
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: veteran guy instead of Gallop? A Hearns who's been around

767
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: the league more. But does he give you as much juice?

768
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why, that's why it's kind of maddening

769
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: to me as these conversations because I don't really know

770
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: the end. And if he fails, then you go back,

771
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you go to get there. So you're going

772
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: to be playing Gallop all the time anymore. If you

773
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: were gonna pick your top three receivers, would your two

774
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: Munchkin receivers be in that? There's no question they would be. Yes,

775
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: the four receivers I want. Okay, you got a four

776
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: receiver rotation. It's what I'm good with. Okay, and you

777
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: got so you got Beasley and you got Austin, You

778
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: got Thompson and then neither Gallup or Herns. That's kind

779
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: of where I'm at right now. You got Rice Butler

780
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: in the man and maybe and maybe maybe we were wrong,

781
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: but when we were watching training camp, were we not

782
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: enamored with Beasley and Tavon Austin being on the field

783
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: at the same time. Can glad you remember that that

784
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: can have And I don't think we've seen that, have we? Yeah?

785
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: Maybe not much, not much. So you go, you go

786
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: four wide. See that's I'm seeing that Ben kind of

787
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: doing that. And so you got the two slot guys

788
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: in Cole and Tavon, and then there's a lot of

789
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 1: four wide in this game. Now some of it was swam,

790
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: but they've done it. They tried to spread them out.

791
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: I think the most confusing thing to this about this area,

792
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: about this team to me is that offensive line. Okay,

793
00:42:54,360 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: because I maybe confusing why? Yeah, confusing why they haven't

794
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: played with the consistency that I thought differently. Yeah, we're

795
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: all right, we're all right about we're all right about

796
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: the loss of Frederick, But man, I mean, if you

797
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: tell me, and another question I'm gonna ask you guys too,

798
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: is offensively, What can you hang your hat on? You know,

799
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: I thought I could hang my hat on this offensive line,

800
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: and I don't. And Mickey's brought this point up for

801
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: the last three weeks, you know, protect his quarterback. He's

802
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: got no shot, right, And they haven't been. And I

803
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: think the thing it's confusing to me is I haven't

804
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: seen the consistency from the group. They're on pace to

805
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: give up fifty nine sacks right now. Fifty nine. Yeah,

806
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: the most the Cowboys have ever given up in a

807
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: sixteen game season is sixty Dak was sack when they

808
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: had that great year or two years ago, twenty three times. Boy,

809
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: we keep reliving that revisionist history. There don't not revisionists.

810
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying back and back when this line was

811
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: he lead, no, no, and that's that's that's that's free

812
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: playing right tackle and Ron Learry playing left guard. Yeah,

813
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: and Travis Frederick Blaine say and then exactly, and I'm

814
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: with you. But I guess my point is I think

815
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: they entered the season before Travis is deal was dealing

816
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: with this illness, right, that we can still hang our

817
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: hat on this line being yeah, that's potentially elite again,

818
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying offensively. I wanted to believe that

819
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: I can hang my hat on this group. Yeah, and

820
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can. Well, you can running

821
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: the ball, it seems like. And then we just get

822
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: down because but maybe that's what it's going to take.

823
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: I didn't grab the stats. I got here late. I

824
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: hit how many times do you get stopped by like

825
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: a train? Like? How about how about how about the

826
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: train tracks the lights down, the gate down, and there's

827
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: no train for like almost fifteen minutes? Yeah, before you decide,

828
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: I got a bail. Yeah, so I don't have the stats.

829
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: But where's where's Zeke? So? Is he likes a fine

830
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: for Mickey? Is this like? Is he a top five

831
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: rusher right now? In the way? I don't know. He

832
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: gave me all the rankings on the other stuff. So

833
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: what he's got one twenty and then he got eighty

834
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: seven last week? I mean, he want to tell you what.

835
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to look it up and back that. More

836
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: of talking cowboys with that point when we think back

837
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: in just a moment. If you're like me and you

838
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: love I mean, if you have a thing, then cutting

839
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: the chord is scary. But then I found out I

840
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: could switch it DirecTV Now and still get the live

841
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: sports I love. No satellite needed, no polky hardware, no

842
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,799
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Speaker 1: six to seven, all right, now, who is the leading

919
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: rusher in the National Football League through three weeks? I

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Speaker 1: have a guest, there is and when have a guess

921
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Speaker 1: it's not Leveon Bell, not Levion Bell, Nope, and it's oh,

922
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Speaker 1: it's a guy in the rams. Yeah. Yeah, Todd Gurley

923
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: is fourth. Oh geez, two hundred and fifty five yards

924
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Speaker 1: every week, four point one yards per carrie. Kareem Hunt,

925
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Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. No, no, no, no no, I'm a comar castrick.

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Speaker 1: My homes just going nuts. Good teams. Yeah, Albert Kamara

927
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: catches a bunch of balls, yes he does, but I

928
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: don't think he's leading the league in rushing. So there

929
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: is a tie for the league lead two hundred and

930
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: the tie for the league lead. A tie for the

931
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Speaker 1: league lead with two hundred and seventy four yards. Ezekiel

932
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Speaker 1: Elliott and Matt Brita of San Franco, San Francisco. Yeah,

933
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: he got hurt in the game that we played preseason.

934
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: He's averaging eight point six yards per carry. Yeah. Of

935
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Speaker 1: course they lost Jerry McKinnon, right, who may have got

936
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Speaker 1: hurt in that same Yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah.

937
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Speaker 1: How many carries does zekecalf? Yes, forty eight carries for

938
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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy four yards, averaging five points seven

939
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Speaker 1: yards a tote, while Barrita has thirty two carries for

940
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Speaker 1: two seventy four eight point six yards a carry. How

941
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Speaker 1: many is Girly have car Gurley has sixty two carries,

942
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Speaker 1: Elliott has forty eight. The differences is the Rams are three?

943
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Speaker 1: You oh, yeah. A lot of offense out there in

944
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Speaker 1: La yep, yeah, a lot of these though. They have

945
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: a pretty good running back Christian McCaffrey coming off a

946
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: huge out and eighty four last week. He's at two

947
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: seventy one, so he's just three yards behind the leaders. Yeah,

948
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: and of course he catches the ball a lot. And

949
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson is number five in the league behind Gurley

950
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: at two hundred and thirty six yards. Sequon Barkley is six,

951
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: and then James Conner. Nice pick up by the but

952
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: with Adrian Peterson out there in Washington. Yeah, didn't see

953
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: that one. Did not see that one. All right, you

954
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Speaker 1: have another question. Forgot what was your point? I know

955
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: I forgot why I brought it up because what we

956
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: were talking about the offensive line? Yeah, because I was like,

957
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: they're running the ball, well yeah, and that see that's

958
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: the thing. It's like, it's encouraging that they're doing what

959
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: they're kind of the formula says has success for them.

960
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: But when they're in third and one, in third and

961
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: two like they were the other day, they're not converting

962
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: those manageable downs. And that's what's discouraging about this offense

963
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: right now. It's one thing to say against Carolina, oh,

964
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: well you're behind the chains, And what's discouraging about this

965
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: offense is passing game. But see, the narrative was they'll

966
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: never be able to run the ball because they can't

967
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: pass it. Right, Well, they're running the ball. Yeah, They're

968
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: putting themselves in position to be efficient in the passing game,

969
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: and they're not being a fan. It's not like they've

970
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: overly emphasized the run either. And the only reason that

971
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: they don't rank up there, and I don't know where

972
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,479
Speaker 1: they are probably their six or seventh in the league

973
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: and rushing offense right now. I'll have to look it up,

974
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: but the only reason they're not in the top three

975
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: is because they aren't winning games, yeah, right, and not

976
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: patting those stats in the fourth quarters, right, I think

977
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: their quarterback has about seventy one yards rushing himself, Am

978
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: I right about that? Fifty and twenty one something like that.

979
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm six point one to carry. Yeah, there you go.

980
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: Do you have another question to pose, Brian? Yeah, I

981
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: will ask you guys. This is going to go now

982
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: to the defensive side of the ball, and I'm gonna

983
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: say it was Sean Lee, you know, likely out for

984
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: a few games. Who do you need more from Layton

985
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: Vanderesh or Jalen Smith to make up for that? But

986
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: I'll put that on the fan pulse right now. Yeah, question,

987
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh or Jalen Smith? Who do you need more

988
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: in that absence of Seawan Lee Jalen Smith? Yeah, because

989
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: I say that because I just can't count on, you know,

990
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: the rookie. It's a lot of tackles that you Yeah,

991
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: it's great what he's doing right now, but I'm just

992
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: not going to hang my head on the rookie right

993
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: off the bat. But see, I need somebody not only

994
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: to make tackles, but to take charge. Get everybody a

995
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: line there up organized. That's a bigger point right there,

996
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: making because that's what you miss from Seawan Lee. I

997
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: think from a physical standpoint, you know, vander esh Hey

998
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: had eleven tackles in thirty three snaps. That's one every

999
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: three snaps. Is it a coincidence though, that he take

1000
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: nothing away from Vanderesh? Was it a coincidence that's he

1001
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: had had their big drive when Lee went out of

1002
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: the game the other day. I mean the drive that

1003
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: basically put the game out of out of reach, the

1004
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: last drive that made it. Yeah, twenty four made it

1005
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: twenty four. Yeah, it is a little bit of a

1006
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: concern there. That was when Lee went out and they

1007
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: went seventy two yards in ten plays, and that because

1008
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: it was seventeen to six. Cowboys had just kicked a

1009
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: field goal to make it seventeen to six. If they

1010
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: get a stop there, then they can have a chance.

1011
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: But they didn't win seventy two yards in ten plays.

1012
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: I would say Jayalen too, who you got, Jalen? Yeah,

1013
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be jail and the and

1014
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: the reasons everybody's given is I think, absolutely right, you're

1015
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: gonna need this scene to get held together. I think

1016
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith is becoming that leader that you need. Um.

1017
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: I think that you're gonna need him to make some

1018
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: of those whether it's the sacks, you know, that's something

1019
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, he had a chance get a sack the

1020
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: other day just kind of let Russell Wilson, but it

1021
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: was an incomplete pass. I think that you're going to

1022
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: really really have to lean on on Jalen in this

1023
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: football game. And and I think that Layton Vanderesh will

1024
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: come along, but you're gonna have some guys who are

1025
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to step up as well. I mentioned we

1026
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: talked about Joe Thomas stuff. You know, does this mean

1027
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: now that you know Chris Covington is going to be active,

1028
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: how much is he gonna play Damian Wilson? How much

1029
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: does he you know, can you get from him as well?

1030
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: So as a whole, this linebacking corps has got to

1031
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: has got to find a way to make things right.

1032
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: They constructed this roster with the with this, with this

1033
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: in my mind, yeah, you know, everybody wants you to

1034
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 1: to draft you should have drafted the kid Calvin Ridley

1035
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: or DJ Moore one of those guys. But was as

1036
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: much about the future as it was it was this year.

1037
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: But it was about this year and and this this

1038
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: is just this is the sad reality of Sean Lee

1039
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,959
Speaker 1: that we I hate. And we have conversations about Sean

1040
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: Lee as being a great football player with eleven tackles

1041
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: in a game. But we don't even touch on that.

1042
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: We talk about him be injured for another time, however,

1043
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: But just with Sean Lee at the age that he's at,

1044
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: even without an injury history, it was prudent on their

1045
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: part to get a young linebacker. They're gonna have to

1046
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: make a decision and this is you know, hopefully this

1047
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: is not too much for shattering, but I think they're

1048
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to make a decision depending on that at

1049
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: the end of the year. All right, let's go to

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Speaker 1: Scott in Houston. We got a few minutes left here

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Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys. Hello Scott, how are you doing, guys? Great? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Hello guys. That's got a question about the turnover margin. Um,

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Speaker 1: what the turnover margin is? And if you're going to

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Speaker 1: play the silent football that Jason Garrett wants to play,

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Speaker 1: running the ball join o'clock, you gotta be positive on

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Speaker 1: that to win game. So it's minus two turnover margins

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Speaker 1: minus two. Right now, they've turned it over four times

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Speaker 1: and they've gotten two fumble recoveries. No picks. See, that's

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Speaker 1: the thing. I thought that with this this secondary that

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Speaker 1: would have more picks. I know, Jeff Heath had a

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Speaker 1: chance in the Carolina game for one, and he dove

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Speaker 1: and it fell in between his arms. But I thought

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Speaker 1: that we would probably see a little bit more of

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Speaker 1: that from what we were gathering in the preseason with

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Speaker 1: the way they were playing. Ball was on the turf

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Speaker 1: a couple of different times too in the in the

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Speaker 1: Seattle game and just bounced right back up into their hands.

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Speaker 1: While in that drive we were just talking about it

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Speaker 1: started off with Penny fumbling, right, Yeah, it could have

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Speaker 1: been huge play. They haven't had the sack fumble yet

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Speaker 1: and well, I'd take I take that back. They had

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Speaker 1: it with Damian Wilson and the Giants game. But we

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Speaker 1: had as much pressure as they've been able to generate,

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Speaker 1: they haven't been able to kind of get one or

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Speaker 1: two more of those. And you know that will help

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Speaker 1: that offense out immensely. Well, I'll tell you another thing,

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Speaker 1: and and and maybe it's a hidden yards play, but

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Speaker 1: think about what happened. And we were mentioning Tavon Austin

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Speaker 1: as well, and Tavon had that punt return that got

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Speaker 1: him all the way out to the forty two. He

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Speaker 1: fields the ball to twenty one on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the field Byron Jones gets a holding call totally

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Speaker 1: away from the play. So instead of the ball on

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Speaker 1: their own forty two with a chance they get, they

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Speaker 1: get the ball on their own nine, they get they

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Speaker 1: get a motion penalty, and then we go with a

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Speaker 1: false start. We go with a false start. Next thing,

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Speaker 1: you know where they're fighting out of their own end.

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Speaker 1: So six yard line, Yeah, those are those are just

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Speaker 1: you know, this offense with the way it's going right now,

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Speaker 1: that they need all the short fields that they can

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Speaker 1: get until they get some confidence that they can do

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Speaker 1: some things. I think I have special teams. You ought

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Speaker 1: to just take a touchback and a fair catch on

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Speaker 1: punchs and don't risk a penalty. Yes, every play is

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Speaker 1: a penalty, not just the Cowboys. Every game you watch, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a penalty. That was a thirty three yard penalty.

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Speaker 1: They just just stand at the line of scrimmage on

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Speaker 1: the punt and let the guy catch a fair catch.

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Speaker 1: Don't get called for blocking the back or hole. If

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Speaker 1: college football, you can take a fair catch at the

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Speaker 1: five yard line now on the kickoff. On the kickoff, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you might as well just do that. Well, there's a

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Speaker 1: college game. Yeah, yeah different, Maybe run a college offense.

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Speaker 1: Oh all right, thanks for joining us for talking Cowboys.

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