WEBVTT - Ep168: I See Titties Ft Van Lathan 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.480 Hi or Hive. Before we begin this week's episode, I 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:05.920 want to let everyone know who purchased tickets to our 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:11.480 live shows that we have went forward with canceling those shows. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:18.480 So if you bought tickets for Atlanta, San Francisco, Los Angeles, UM, 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:23.680 just know that those shows were canceled UM. In order 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:28.240 for us to get you guys refunds on those tickets, UM, 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.000 the event had to be fully canceled. So just know. 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:32.920 Once we know that we're gonna be able to go 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.519 back on tour again, we will go ahead and make 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.920 the announcement as we have all the time before our 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.040 live shows. 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But just so you know, 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:21.680 you guys are getting that refund and we'll be back 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.000 live and add it as soon as we can. Um, 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:26.640 So I wanted to let that be known before we 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:29.280 start this week's episode. Now let's get on with the show. 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:37.680 Hey guys, welcome, What did it do? Motherfuck? Guys? Welcome 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:41.800 to another episode of Horrible Decisions. This is your girl. Actually, 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.560 I want to be someone new this week. Finally finished 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.360 the ten episode MJ doc and I'm gonna be Carmen 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:52.160 Electra for this episode because she's a fucking goat and 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.320 I want the documentary on her whole phase. So this 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:57.720 is your girl, Carmen Electra a k A Peg the 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:01.160 Stallion a k A Me de Baskins a k A 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:06.040 that bitch. I'll get Denise Rodman because Jannis Rodman is me, 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.840 my nigga. I don't give a funk about the job 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:12.560 when I lead it, so I definitely watched all of 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.160 that ship too, And you guys know I don't give 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:15.560 a funk about sports. I don't even think you need 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:16.839 to know me to know, I don't give a funk, 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.680 but that ship was t now. I loved it. And 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.320 this is not a sports podcast for those of you 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.600 who are tuning in for the first time, because I 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.600 know we may have some new listeners because we have 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.560 the motherfucking voice of the culture, the motherfucking I said 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.560 what our motherfucker's said, and I stand for everything black. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.480 We finally have Van Leathan. I didn't know how he 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.280 was really gonna ent you because you kind of got 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.240 your own job. Now we can't say where your work, 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:50.560 So we have Van Lethan on today's podcast. Go ahead, man, 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:55.360 what how y'all doing? Man? Look, I've had each of 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.519 these ladies on my podcast. Um, I can say you 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.639 ought to be great friends. I love this fucking podcast 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.520 I always have, so I'm happy to be here. Man. 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:10.520 I'm happy too that it took a fucking pandemic to 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:14.600 get your ass on the show. Bro Bro, y'all had 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.760 to go to Joe Buttons fucking pool party then the 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.359 one time because we always wanted to do the episode 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.920 with you together. We felt like you would be someone 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.440 fun because we're all friends. So it was like, okay, 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:26.960 one of us is out of town. It's not gonna work. 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.600 We'll look at us now all together, all in separate 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:36.000 motherfucking locations because the world is ending, so that don't 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.920 say that. Honestly, I ain't gonna hold you. So I 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.360 wanted to start off this UM episode. I know that 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:46.400 Weezy and I in the beginning of this, I guess pandemic. 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.680 Wey was like, all we hear is about coronavirus. We 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.839 gotta keep the conversation away from coronavirus. But I think 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.880 that this has now become kind of a new norm. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.480 I would say, UM, and we're all in different locations, 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:00.120 So I just kind of even wanted to talk to 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:04.400 you Van and see how it has kind of affected you, 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:08.240 not only for UM the worst, because it's kind of 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.480 affected us all a little negatively. I wanted to kind 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:14.280 of know in a positive way what you've taken from 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:18.880 what's been going on. UM. It's difficult, Like in a 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:23.960 positive way, I guess I've learned again about my own 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:29.080 resilience because unlike a lot of other people who were 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.640 able to deal with this, I had a complete fucking 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:38.000 nervous breakdown, like one UM with my anxiety. Everyone says, oh, 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.400 I have anxiety and I'm not saying that people don't. 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:44.520 We all do to a degree. Mine is completely crippling. 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:49.200 It is Uh, It's like it decimates like it came 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:54.400 from I'm scared. I'm taking my temperature fifteen times a day, UM, 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.240 reading everything, I'm getting into everything, I'm all fucked up. 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.960 Then it goes into I'm so stressed out that I'm 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:02.760 having a hard palpitations. Then I can scare of the 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.359 hard palpitations, and then I can't sleep. I think I 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:09.840 went three weeks with about thirty minutes asleep per night. 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:11.760 I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I don't think we've 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.000 talked about it. I know I've joked about, you know, 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:18.039 being sexless, being dickless, not going on dates, and we've 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.720 definitely brought up how this pandemic has affected us with 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.360 dating and sex and partners UM. But I don't think 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.440 we've talked about much of the mental health and even UM. 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.040 I started to run a report UM kind of just 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:34.960 to work on speaking by myself and also editing audio. 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.160 But then, like I was speaking to my mom and 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.679 I went into kind of like a manic phase myself. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.719 I was on the phone with my mom after grocery 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.000 shopping one day and I was like, so, yeah, I'm 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.760 gonna get this. I'm gonna get this, and she just 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.440 like said, she was like, calm down, you sound really manic. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.680 She was like, I'm so glad you have body there 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:56.200 because I really am an extrovert and I'm feeling now 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.960 like fuck, I'm not around people and it's affecting me. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.279 I mean, um, my friend is staying with me for 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.480 a couple of months now, so that's gonna relieve kind 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.960 of just the need to be with human interaction. But yeah, 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.960 we definitely haven't talked about how this whole thing has 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:17.560 affected our mental health along with sex and our jobs. Um, 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:21.120 we easy mentally has this affected you? Have you felt 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:25.000 anything with depression or anxiety or you know, being around 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.200 other people? I think we were both really like extroverted 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.240 people that liked being outside. In the beginning. It did, 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.880 but I adapted pretty well. Like I mean I was 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.600 crying a lot, not like don't already cry a lot, 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.080 but like just spurts of like going to a grocery 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:40.960 source seeing all the masks and being like, oh wow, 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:45.239 life is over. Like just um getting depressed about people 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.400 I know who have gotten coronavirus and not understanding because 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.840 I think in the beginning I just felt like if 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.800 you get it, you die, and that was really terrifying, 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.760 much like a cancer right, like survival rate with cancer. 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:58.880 When you it feels like a death sentence. But the 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:00.960 more that I'm becoming eligible and how to take care 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:05.680 of my body and getting healthier, I'm not as word um. 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.359 Also like I've done a lot of goal setting and 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:09.920 a lot of things that have pulled me out of 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.760 feeling depressed. Like I put things on the schedule, which 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.560 I know everybody says to do that, so I feel 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.640 like that part is annoying too. I'm so sick of 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.560 people telling me, oh, dude's doing with your friends, fay 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.040 time with your friends and get your calendar busy, but 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.040 like you just actually have to do it and you'd 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.560 be I I know more about talks now that I 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.920 ever have in my fucking life. I actually don't watch 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.840 that much. Netflix was just wild, Like I feel like 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.080 I should I limit myself tonight time to do it. 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.040 I don't watch during the day. We talked about it 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.520 on Patreon. I completely have gotten off of the binge concept, 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.080 Like that phase is so over. I can't binge just 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.880 show I've honestly tried to start a couple you know 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.720 where we all had it right because as busy people, 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.600 you didn't have the opportunity to binge. You can't just 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:54.400 you know what I'm saying, our lives before you're like, 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.480 oh word, my nigga be in a house for two weeks. Cool, 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:58.280 let me watch every show that y'all. Nick has been 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.960 talking about how I just started soprano. I don't understand, 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.880 but I don't know. Now, I will tell you one thing. 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.440 I want to want to be on brand here. I'm 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.920 horny as fuck and I have someone to fuck, but 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.000 I'm horny all the time because it's quarantine. And I 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.240 think it's because I'm spending more time on my phone 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:19.160 and a lot of people do pooring, bro, And if 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:24.440 they weren't doing it before, they're doing it now. Some 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.080 of the people that have started their only fans journey 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:31.679 in this particular thing are people I never would have thought, 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.360 like who I like who? Yeah? Like it's not body 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.160 that y'all would know, but it's like people that I 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.040 worked with that's like, yo, cook the link in the Bible. 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:44.360 I'm like yo, for real? Inn Yeah, I like you 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.480 had just graduate from San Diego State and you were 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.440 telling me you're gonna be the next open. By the way, 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:50.959 you can still be the next open and do your 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.400 only fans. You can't do, you can't do, you can't do. 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.920 But I'm just surprised. I know what you're saying, because 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.199 I think we always think like someone's gonna say, ll, 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.200 why can't you be up. At the same time, it's 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.920 just normal people trajectory. What's normal to us is not 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.319 only fans and OPRAH, but the world is changing bro 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.720 with the more people that do it, the more people 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.080 that do it, the more common place is going to become. 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.280 And then you have a chance to be the first 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.960 only fans OPRA absolutely because because there's a lot of 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.400 mothers out there doing it. I think that that's even 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.400 the way, UM and shout out to you. I know 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.760 you just started kind of a wire recap with Jamal Hill. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.360 That's one of your UM one of your podcasts that 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.079 you're doing right now on top of the red Pill podcast. 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:37.120 You're still no more red Pill and there's still up 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:38.880 for people to listen to it. Because I want people 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.079 to still go back and listen to the content because 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:46.360 we we think I were right. Right. Look, I still 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:47.960 own the I P to the Red Pill. The red 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.679 Pill is I own it completely. But uh, I am 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.439 now launching a brand new podcast with the Wringer I 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.240 Love Them next week, so I have two shows with them, 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.000 um and the next the podcast I'm launching with them 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.000 X is going to be more along the lines of 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:03.520 what I was doing with the Love It And you 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.000 guys want to talk about I P S and be 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.520 MESSI or not. No bitch, I was getting into the 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.760 motherfucker's topic. Actually, I was just listening to that past 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:16.200 listen even so I was in a hole. I would 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.040 have been talking to Liz Goldwin shoutout to this going 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.319 from sex education, me and this bitch on the phone. 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:21.680 She's like, you know, I'm in the hole. I'm like, 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.240 can you believe I'm not even gonna lie? So I 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.880 was actually going to bring that up because, um, the 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.880 same way we talked about kind of just the normalization 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.240 of only fans. I remember starting a podcast three and 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.040 a half years ago and Nigga's looking at it as 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:39.559 a hobby and now all of this podcast drama and quick. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.240 But that's a brief Rundown. So there's a podcast and 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.360 I mean normally it's like, oh, don't give anybody they're 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.880 they're huge. They're called called the Drama source scene where 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:53.400 we're talking about the million dollar um ideas or million 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:57.199 dollars something with wallow Gilly to kids. That's also podcast drama. 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.119 This this one, particularly about the I P is super interesting. 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.280 So Call Her Daddy is a sex podcast of two 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:11.520 white girls that live in New York. Um. And when 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.599 we got into us, when we got into this, I 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.720 knew the motherfucking clause was coming out. I like, even 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.160 when you said that because you were like two white girls, 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:23.320 why I want to mention their because I feel like 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.000 that has a lot to do with how doing on. 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.320 Now let me say one, I don't want to even 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.080 say that they're like us, because I really feel like 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.319 just because two people have sex podcasts, I mean ship 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:36.559 like we're not close to nothing. Horrible Decisions doesn't even 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.240 close to that, you know what I mean, Like we're 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.360 a sex ed kinky fund podcast. There's two white girls 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.920 that tell their nasty stories. Cool to me, they have 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.800 their very value girl voices. They curate this audience that's 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.079 like do she but they make money on it. That's 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.040 a bigger lane than what we do. So it ain't 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:59.320 no shade. What are you talking about? People? Are we 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.240 come on? I think it's not even that it's a 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:04.920 bigger lank, because I would say that is a bigger 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:08.800 I'm saying when we came out, Um, because we are 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.040 just two women to talk about sex, we could be 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.319 compared to guys we fucked. We've been compared to Cocktails. 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.040 We've been compared to literally two girls that are open 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:21.400 about talking about sex. And so Cocktails is based in Atlanta. 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.520 We've had them shout out to Kikia Medina. Um, but 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.720 so call her daddy? Is these you know? Two white 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:29.679 girls are a blonde in the brunette, they openly talk 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:33.800 about sex. Well, they signed the acquired Yeah, they signed 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.559 three before. I think that's a big thing to say, 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.440 and that's a huge part of thing to say. They 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.679 were a podcast before they did not start, and bar 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.040 Stool Store did not conceptualize this is which is actually 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:54.199 what I thought they were. They were still a podcast before, right, 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.280 So it doesn't it's not like bar stool reached out. 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.520 And the reason that's important is because I'm early on 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.000 with a new podcast two and people are like, hey, 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.720 sign this contract and do ads with us. People don't 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:06.800 give a fun. But here's the thing, though, they don't 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.680 give a funk. People give that to me and Mandy. 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.240 They do it to everybody, But here's the But here's 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.439 the thing though, if like you guys had a podcast 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.920 and the podcast grew organically for a long long time 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:21.120 before any other networks came in, right, right, there is 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.400 something to be said with how early a major network 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.520 like bar stool gets involved with your party weeks into 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:32.080 like early, right, so that that does lend itself to 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.720 the success of the brand, like you can't you can't 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.679 divorce those two things. That's why I said, I think 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.920 it's important to acknowledge that they had it before. So 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.840 the tea is I've never listened to an episode. However, 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.360 the podcast has been on air for a year, and 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.040 they stopped letting episodes come out or stop doing episodes 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.040 for about four weeks. Nobody kind of knew why. They 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.800 posted some cryptic shit about how people would find out, 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:56.360 but the owner of bar Stools, who's Dave Portnoy, came 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.720 on their feed basically because he owns it and talked 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.800 about why there hadn't been episodes, and there was a 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:05.200 disagreement between the hosts and bar Stools, feeling like they 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:09.200 weren't owed enough money. Now here's some cool facts, just 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.880 interesting baseline that you need to know. So what I 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.600 p addresses your intellectual property, which is basically the idea. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:17.839 It can just then the name excuse me, but it 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:21.000 can also be the idea. So, for example, horrible decisions. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:22.600 If you remember, Mandy, where was it a year ago? 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.520 So no, two years ago, somebody wanted us to sell 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:28.440 our Patreon episodes and put bonus content with them. And 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:34.640 that wasn't that wasn't comparable to what we've been making nothing. Now, 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.440 I wasn't even that much. It was fifty. It was fifty, 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.880 which wasn't even what we make. It was fifty plus 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.880 a bonus if we reached a certain amount of subscriber. 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.680 Here's this interesting part Mandy and I started saying, which 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.040 was which is a really interesting part to call her daddy. 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.720 We were like, well, we'll just make our own Patreon 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:55.160 is Mandy and wheezy. Fuck it. Now, bar Stool not 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.760 only bought call her Daddy, but they bought I can't 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:01.600 remember the word but the concept alexand many of them, 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.360 the likeness Alex and Sophia can't go out and do 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.400 something else, which was pretty dumb, not not not saying 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.120 that they did was dumb because bar stools huge, They 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.360 had nobody yet, so why not let this happen? Now 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:17.520 the podcast makes money. They give him a seventy thousand 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.200 dollar base, and it makes money from merch from ad 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.320 sales and am I forgetting something else? So they get 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.520 they also get a bonus. Um, so they did. They 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.120 weren't getting the ad revenue, that's the thing they were getting. 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.960 They got a bonus based on every ten percent above 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:40.680 whatever whatever to a million dollars between the two of 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.040 them starting No, no, no, it was five d each 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.120 the first year. The first year, it was like it 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.840 was like they split basically like a million dollar back. Now. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.880 So here's what's interesting. Um, seventy thousand was the base. 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.640 They want more now immediately, I'll be real when I 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.320 found out that they made half a million each on 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.400 the first year and had nothing before. Are still and 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.200 like you signed a bad deal. Suck it up, You're 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.880 gonna be big in three years anyway, Who cares? But 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.880 I'm feeling two ways about this. When Dave portnoy I 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.400 got on the show and said I want them back 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.440 because I'm already missed out on four hundred thousand, I'm like, okay, 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.560 four weeks, four hundred thousand. Then this show makes a 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.520 hundred grand a week, a lot of money. Of course 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:24.360 you want more than five grand. However, they offered it 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.560 back to the girls. So what happened was the girls 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:30.200 wanted their i P, which was of course the worth 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.360 of the brand. The most important thing is your trademark. 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.360 I believe you never know what you'll brandon be. It's 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.440 it's important to keep that. So they offered these girls 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.560 their i P back six years less out of their contract, 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:42.960 right months, six months last out of their sorry, six 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.040 months lest out of their contract, and a half a 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:48.320 million dollar base, and they're still saying no and have 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:50.640 Now this is where I said, I think the whiteness 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:54.960 really matters, the nerve of you to sign this bad 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.840 deal on your own, not come to work. They offer 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.320 what you're asking, and then you're still like fuck you 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:05.320 and breaching the contract. How So, it's crazy because this, 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.720 to me is comparable to what Meg the Stallion is 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.520 even doing right now. Um. She she got a better 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.280 management with rock Nation, and now they're like, you're in 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.760 a bad deal with Carl and everybody on that side, 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:18.640 so we want to get you out of this deal. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.440 The thing is, and I think it's been important for 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.480 what Weezy and I have done. We've seen our growth 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:28.000 over year one, year two, and year three to where 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.080 we know like, we don't want to sign any multi 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.879 milk like multi year deal seeing what people are offering 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.720 if it's not what we think we can do by ourselves. Um. 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:39.840 And I think that they just hopped into this early. 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.440 But regardless, you do have to once you sign that ship, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.280 which is what Dave kept saying, I'll see the ship 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.600 out of you. So they're locked bro for the next 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:48.560 two years. They're not gonna be able to do ship together. 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.280 Girl got on Instagram talking about I wanted to do 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.000 the show again. I bet you do. What are yours? 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.879 They are? But here's the thing. They made a mistake. 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.520 Like I've been them before, they may the mistake that 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.719 a lot of people make. Right like me coming off 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.840 the tour bus going into t MZ. I don't really 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.439 have the leverage to to to sit down and dictate 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.000 terms to them. By the time my last contract to 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.359 TMZ was coming up, I was saying, Okay, I'll even 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.080 go do something else unless you give me that. But 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.840 while I was there, I was completely in totally exclusive 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.840 to them. Anything that wasn't carved out, they could tell 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.640 me straight up you can't do it. TMZ could take 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.720 my face, put it on the billboard. Take my face, 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:28.880 and my face has been on billboards, my face has 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.280 been on flyers, my face has been on commercials, my 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:35.960 face has been in a in a fucking casino slot machine, 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.520 all of that stuff. Basically, whenever they wanted to, they 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.920 for that time they owned my talent for the time 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.360 that I was there with them. What happened was they 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:49.000 go early on, they go and they they they they 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.920 negotiate back and forth with bar Stool about the i P. 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.200 They knew they wanted it, They always knew they wanted 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.760 their i P, but they didn't feel like they had 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:03.040 the muscle initially to negotiate. And maybe they didn't they 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:07.560 but they obviously didn't. So here's the theme to anyone 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:13.040 out there that's listening, what do you do that you're fucked? Okay? 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.639 If you have an i P that you feel like 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:19.000 it's gonna last. It is gonna last and give you 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.840 generational wealth, something that you're gonna be able to go 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.840 back and draw. Once you made the decision to sell it, 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.240 they own it. Now. You can use the great success 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.080 of your show to come back and releverage as much 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:34.919 as you can, but they never ever ever have to 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.640 fucking play ball with you once you do that. So 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.720 selling the IP, making the decision to sell your I 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:46.480 P is a monumental undertaking. I really like what you're saying, 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:50.160 because I recently sold a pilot right, something I wrote, 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:52.840 sold it to a production company that is going is 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:55.000 trying to get it pitched right, And I want to 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:57.119 talk about the difference between I what I sold an 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:58.679 I P because someone wrote me and I was like, well, 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.160 didn't you just sell something and say you can't touch it? Well, 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:06.960 here's the difference. That series right has stipulations. If it 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.919 gets picked up, I have writer's credit, I can be 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.480 in the cast, I'm an executive producer on it. I'm 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:17.480 a part of the show that was something that I wanted. Now, huh. 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.199 Union in the case of something exactly now, if they 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.119 start making merch and something like that, like, sure, I 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.080 understand that I sold that. However, I did say, let's 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.120 just say a base number of a hundred bucks. If 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.199 I get a hundred bucks for a year, you have 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.480 to sell this. Now if you do sell it that 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:37.200 hundred dollars, ten dollars something like that. Right, you're allowed 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.479 to do those two. But that series I sold is 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:43.600 just one piece. It's not an I P. Now selling 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:46.479