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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome, What did it do? Motherfuck? Guys? Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another episode of Horrible Decisions. This is your girl. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I want to be someone new this week. Finally finished

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Speaker 1: the ten episode MJ doc and I'm gonna be Carmen

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Speaker 1: Stallion a k A Me de Baskins a k A

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Speaker 1: that bitch. I'll get Denise Rodman because Jannis Rodman is me,

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Speaker 1: my nigga. I don't give a funk about the job

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Speaker 1: the motherfucking voice of the culture, the motherfucking I said

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Speaker 1: what our motherfucker's said, and I stand for everything black.

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Speaker 1: We finally have Van Leathan. I didn't know how he

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Speaker 1: So we have Van Lethan on today's podcast. Go ahead, man,

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Speaker 1: what how y'all doing? Man? Look, I've had each of

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Speaker 1: an AD that contacts me or an AD that I

426
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 1: found on my own, I gotta give them. I said,

427
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: hold of, So, what did you think me and Mandy

428
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: were gonna do when you wrote us? I said you didn't.

429
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: You weren't gonna have that energy for me and Mandy

430
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: though I know that, So why would you do that

431
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: for this podcast? I'm the same person. She's like, well, well,

432
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 1: I I don't I don't know what I wrote you.

433
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 1: I said, oh, you wrote me the same email. So

434
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 1: because horrible decisions had some weight, you would have been

435
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: more lenient. But because we've been around for four weeks,

436
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 1: you think I would have signed this. And that's the

437
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: thing about people that hold out. We've watched it with

438
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 1: the Joe Budding podcast, the Joe Rogan podcast. When people

439
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 1: hold it and hold it and you grow your own worth,

440
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 1: you can have more leverage because I probably won't have

441
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 1: leverage for this new podcast. But let me get on

442
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: that phone with her tomorrow, with Mandy on the phone

443
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: discuss horrible decisions. Oh you think she's about to talk

444
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: to me about how if we find something it's not ours,

445
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here. And that's the thing

446
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: that that really happened with this is when Portnoy was

447
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: on there, he explained and not even he expected their

448
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: podcast to be as big as what it was. Right,

449
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: So when the podcast gets to the level that it

450
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: is and it's it's apparently a huge podcast. I'm not

451
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna lie I had never heard of it before, but

452
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 1: apparently it's a huge, huge podcast. Right. You have earned

453
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: the right to come back and ask for some things

454
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: that they maybe didn't give you before. But the bottom

455
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: the bottom line is but to not show up and

456
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: not record like they're gonna tell you, go funk yourself

457
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: in that situation. If you don't come at it with

458
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: a business mind. If you bring your emotions to that discussion,

459
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: you're going to lose because they got your paperwork. The

460
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 1: paperwork is going to be the most important part to

461
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: how successful you're going to be in the long term

462
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,719
Speaker 1: with your idea. If you give your ideal way, somebody

463
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: else fucking owns it. And so either those girls, those women,

464
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: those ladies either they got to figure out a way

465
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: how to make that ship right with them or they're

466
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: not gonna get paid off the ship that they built up.

467
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: Urge to see what happened to them, because as a woman,

468
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean not that I think what they're doing is right,

469
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: but that was hard to watch just to know that

470
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna funk them. They're gonna sue the funk out

471
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: of these girls. They're they're not gonna hold up in court.

472
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: I actually but because I want to get into the

473
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: vanilla ship. UM. I know that we don't normally talk

474
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: about the business side of things here, but definitely with

475
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: so much going on and so many people looking to

476
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: start podcast, UM. I recently just did something with DJ

477
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: Rose Gold. We had a mix there were um literally

478
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: the advice was, if you're gonna start this podcast, thing,

479
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: whether it's for a hobby or to monetize it. I

480
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: think to look at it as a million dollar business.

481
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: Think that you're gonna see a million dollars in the

482
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: first year and operated as such. So get a partnership agreement,

483
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: figure out your expenses, figure out how you're gonna go

484
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 1: about UM delegating responsibilities. I think that that's very important

485
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: UM to start off with. And I do want to

486
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: get into the Vanilla ship because we save this topic

487
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: just for van We wanted to get a male perspective

488
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: on this UM so our vanilla ship for this week.

489
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: I want to read it. Um Complex wrote on it.

490
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: All of you guys have seen this nonsense if you're

491
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: on Twitter, if you have any sort of technology at

492
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: the palm of your fingertips. Boosty Rapper Boosey Badass bass

493
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: backlash after claiming he got grown women to give his

494
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 1: underage son oral sex so around the age of twelve

495
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: and thirteen, he let it be known in an Instagram

496
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: live that the same women he was fucking he made

497
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: sure went and sucked his son's dick. We've heard him

498
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: speak a lot on the parenting of Dwyane Wade and

499
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: how he allies that what is Zio Wade zire Wade

500
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: uh starts with a Z, but how Dwyane Wade allows

501
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: allows his son to, you know, kind of be gender fluid,

502
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: and how he wants to be represented. Boothy came on

503
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: and pretty much was like, well, my son's gonna be straight.

504
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: So I have grown women sucking their dick. So I

505
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about this because my problem

506
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: actually with this is when we when when I went

507
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: on Twitter and started reading the comments, a lot of

508
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: men were like, I wish this happened to me. Um,

509
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: And I think the conversation is more so where men

510
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: don't view this as sexual assault and it really is.

511
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: UM and so Van as a man and UM and

512
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: you've been you know, we're gonna talk a lot about

513
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 1: sex and kind of with you through way porn addiction.

514
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into all of that. But I want

515
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: to know, as as a black man specifically, what are

516
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: your thoughts with one of I guess our culture leaders,

517
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: um talking about this and and yeah, just share your

518
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: thoughts on what's going on. So full disclosure, I've known

519
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: Boosty for a long long time. We went to high

520
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: school together. UM, and so Yeah, mat Rouge mckilly hide

521
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: like his big brother to Corey was a wash I'd say,

522
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: a friend of mine, um throughout middle school, high school,

523
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: and then on into college. Uh. And then Boosty came

524
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: in and we whoped together, play basketball together. I've watched

525
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: his career the whole time, been knowing Boosty. So here's

526
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: the thing about this, UM, I think that there are

527
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: two things that play. Number One, there there's a there's

528
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: a level that the toxic masculinity goes to where it's

529
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: inherently abusive. Right, not not just in this case, but

530
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: in all other cases. The way men treat each other,

531
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: the expectations we have each other of each other, we

532
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: subconsciously abuse each other all the time. UM. By by

533
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: putting these sort of rules in place. Another thing that

534
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: really bothers me about what Boosey said was this Boosey

535
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: is not only if that's true, not only is he

536
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: abusing his children sexually, UM, abusing his son sexually, abusing

537
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: whatever other kids sexually, He's also informing them about women

538
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: in a really dangerous way. What he is saying is

539
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: that a woman exists too. Uh. Initiate, reinforce, and validate

540
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: your manhood. So you're a child, right, You're a kid.

541
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: In order for you to get to a certain point,

542
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: this woman has to do this for you. UH, and

543
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: that ushers you into the club that the rest of

544
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: us are in. UM. When you cast women in that role,

545
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: it is impossible to uncast them when you start doing

546
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. UH is using women

547
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: to gratify or build you up in different ways, and

548
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: then they become not people. They become not people that

549
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: exist with their own dreams, their own hopes, their own fears,

550
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: their own insecurities. They become objects to reinforce whatever it

551
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: is that you believe or want to believe about yourself.

552
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: I love Wokeman so much. I just feel like he

553
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: is just you are, like the better doctor. But even

554
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: even what you're saying, it's interesting because clearly this isn't

555
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: what's put on too you know, young girls. Clearly we're

556
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: told to keep our our cookie to ourselves. There's all

557
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: these names used. You know, Moms definitely aren't going out

558
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: making sure we get grown dick to make sure we're straight.

559
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: That's not a thing that's that's given to us. But

560
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting because I was having a recent

561
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: conversation and and I'm not sure where it's taught, but

562
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: so much for men, the end goal is sex. Men

563
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: take women on dates because they hope they can get

564
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: pussy at the end. They go about doing things that

565
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: they lie, they manipulate in I guess you know, response

566
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: to hoping that they get pussy at the end. There's

567
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: no other end goal with a woman except for sex.

568
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is is exactly right. And that's

569
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: exactly what Boossy is doing. Now. I want to ask

570
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: you because another instance that I saw, we see a

571
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: lot of the teachers, a lot of the teachers in

572
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: the news are coming out that they're all se messing

573
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: with kids, and men in their minds are saying, damn,

574
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: I wish that happened to me. Do you know why

575
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: there's no inkling to sexual assault when it comes to

576
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: young boys. We know what it is of sexual assault

577
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: for women, of course, we've all experienced it, we've talked

578
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: about it, but men aren't talking about the sexual assault

579
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: that it's happening to them. Why is that? Well? Number one,

580
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: because sex is so such an aspirational thing. I remember

581
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: my father, who was a great dad, and by the way,

582
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't think Bootsey even knows that what he was

583
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: doing was abused. I don't think that he I don't

584
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: think that he would do anything that he thought was

585
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: abusing his his kids. I don't think he even knows.

586
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: I remember my dad told me. My dad asked me

587
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: one time I was fifteen, He's like, have you got

588
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: any pussy yet? And I was like, well, you saw

589
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: me jacking off to the Jam Jackson screen video. You

590
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: know that I'm not getting any pussy. Like so, like,

591
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: what what are you talking about? Like you know I haven't,

592
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm like no, He's okay, well you know

593
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: you need to take care of that by time you're sixteen.

594
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: And I'm like what. He goes, well, if you're a

595
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: Lathan man, like you shouldn't be a virgin when you're sixteen,

596
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: Like so go figure that out. And and and for me,

597
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: that's like that funk with me because I was thinking, yo,

598
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: with my brothers and my dad and everybody else, am

599
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: I the weak link? If no one wants to sleep

600
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: with me? And it becomes did you lose it? And

601
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: until I was seventeen, so um so like for me personally,

602
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: I look at like sexist seen as such an asperse

603
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: and when and by the way, I can't speak to women,

604
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: but there's something that overnight fucking happens to you when

605
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: you're like eleven or two. No not I mean no,

606
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm not that you started sucking, but like every fucking

607
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: thing ship that you never noticed before just becomes It's

608
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: it's like, yo, I remember, like one day I just

609
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 1: discovered titties and I was like, and it was it

610
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: was weird because I knew that titties were there, but

611
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: I didn't think that they were actual titties. So did

612
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: you see a move or something? Yeah, And then I

613
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: was like, and then you didn't jump, and you were like,

614
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, yo, her titties are onto it.

615
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: And it changed my life because I was thinking, under

616
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: that shirt, there's a brawl, and then under that brawl

617
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: they're true titties. And so for the rest of the time,

618
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: I remember, I was like in the sixth and seventh grade,

619
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: I was trying to see a titty. My whole day

620
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: was just about how can I see the most of

621
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: a titty? That's the possible that I could see, And

622
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: I never forget. I'm not like like like like we're

623
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: at the p classes, we're playing soccer, and it was

624
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: a girl. She was I know her name, but I'm

625
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: not gonna say it all here. Thank you. She somebody

626
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: somebody snapped her bra and when they snapped her bra,

627
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: her ship was so big that the brawl broke and

628
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: then the titties fell in the shirt and they were

629
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: free sexual assaults. I was. It was a girl that

630
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: snapped the bra. I was. I was fucking done. I remember.

631
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: That's what I had to have a conversation with my

632
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: dad about that. I didn't even no, no, but no.

633
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: So so when I'm saying there, can you say what aide? You? Where?

634
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: You said eleven? At that point I was, I'll say,

635
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: it's funny that you say that, because so when I

636
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: was in fifth grade, I was on the morning announcements

637
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: and it wasn't shut up, shut up up. I gave

638
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: the morning announcements in both middle there is a spot

639
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: behind the jungle gym that no one can see. You

640
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: Can you not give children where to go and and

641
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: fill each other up? No? So it's crazy because I

642
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: was on the morning announcements and it wasn't until so

643
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: when I was in fifth grade, I started filling out

644
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: my braw a little bit more, and I remember the

645
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: boys that was the grade they started taking notice of

646
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: my titties. So I think that's about ten or eleven

647
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: years old, and I remember like being so embarrassed that

648
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: they would talk about the size of my my breast

649
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: as a fifth As a fifth grader, so I remember

650
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: um going onto the morning announcements and sitting like of

651
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: course there was a table in front of me, and

652
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: I would slouch so that my tips were covered by

653
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: my arms on the table just so that people couldn't

654
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: see my cleavage as a fifth grader, because the boys

655
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: were definitely into titties, I must have been a hole

656
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: right in the elementary because I was kissing for cookies.

657
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: I was, I was serious, what kind of cookies? You?

658
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: Was like, like what kind of I gotta know what

659
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: kind of because if you for animal crackers and like

660
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: what kind of cookies? That's that's like they were like

661
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 1: cafeteria cookies. But we all we all only got one.

662
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: And I knew these boys wanted to you know, kids.

663
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, you was made. I'm telling you.

664
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: My mom found out. Oh my, and here I am.

665
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: How'd your mom found out that you was hold for

666
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: cookies because the teacher said something because like nobody had

667
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: cookies and I probably had bo I'm that um my

668
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: point by saying that, So this is my point. My

669
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: point is, so you have an intense biological imperative. Your

670
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: body is telling you sex sex sex, sex, sex, sex, sex,

671
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: sex sex sex sex, and that's uncontrollable, right, like for

672
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: most guys, uh that that I've talked to, that's uncontrollable.

673
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: And what you need in that situation as a young

674
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: man is you need somebody that can establish a healthy

675
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: relationship of what sex is supposed to look like and

676
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: how it's supposed to do. You don't need someone going yo,

677
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: my nigga, take off, go get it. And so because

678
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: of that, um, sex becomes like something that that that

679
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: makes your manhood. It becomes something that like you know,

680
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: you like a like a notch on your belt. And

681
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: you think any sex is appropriate sex. You think any

682
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: sex is good sex. You think so you think that

683
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: like of course you wouldn't think that there was anything

684
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: wrong with having sex with a teacher. What could be better?

685
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like that's a grown woman

686
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 1: that's probably the best sex. So meanwhile, with women, we

687
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: we the dynamic gets changed because we see women as

688
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: not quite that way, we see them as more sexually vulnerable.

689
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: And now I think that people want to protect girls

690
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: more than they do little boys all the time because

691
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: because of the hyper sexuality of men as well. I

692
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: do want to say something that you you you said,

693
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that you're using it as an excuse,

694
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: but I know you know this person, so of course

695
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: you've probably got a softer spot in your heart for him.

696
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: But when you mentioned like Boosey didn't know what he

697
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: was doing was abuse or in essence means he didn't

698
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: know what he was doing was wrong, I don't really

699
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: believe that, And I'll tell you why I think that. People.

700
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: For example, he used the argument that isn't Zaiah. What

701
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: the fuck is their daughter's name? Zaia? Maybe zah okay,

702
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: so doing we then Gabby's daughter, right? So Zia? Um?

703
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: Who is? We don't even know if she's trans. I

704
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't even use the word like queen or no, does

705
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: she identify his trans? Know she identified? She wants to

706
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: identify as a woman, But there's no talk whatsoever. Boosty

707
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: used the argument over and over that she doesn't know

708
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: about her own sexuality yet because she's too young. So

709
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: that's not what he said. Okay, what do he saying?

710
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: So like what what he said was And by the way,

711
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm not in any way defending Boosty. What Boosey said

712
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: was indefensible. What I'm saying is that, well, what he

713
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: said about Duane Wade's kid was don't cut his dick off? Right, Yeah,

714
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: but he was saying, how do you know so he

715
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: didn't have any conversation like that, because I feel like

716
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: I remember those well what he was saying, the main

717
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: point was don't cut his dick off, Dwyane way, And

718
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: that's never been a conversation. But if he wants to

719
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: go back and fun women when he gets older, nobody,

720
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: nobody has ever had that conversation that I know of.

721
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're having a conversation as a family,

722
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: but there's never been any talk about any surgeries or

723
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: anything like that. Um, their daughter is uh dealing with

724
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: a lot of things coming at them at the same time,

725
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: and they're choosing to be what they should be, which

726
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: is supportive parents. I'm not giving him an out. What

727
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, is that anything that he gets from saying

728
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: what he said is deserved, Like that's something that's discussing.

729
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: But at the same time, there is uh pervasive said

730
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: of ideas and behaviors that go along with men thinking

731
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: that women having sex is some kind of way like

732
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: accessing their manhood. And Louisiana Baton Rouge p D would

733
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: be at his fucking door he has a daughter if

734
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: he said that he had a guy comeing fuck his

735
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: daughter to make sure that she wasn't gay. So it's

736
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: just a weird thing on how we prioritize little boys

737
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: over a little girl, I mean little girls over little boys,

738
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: and it's and it's frankly very sad. But I think

739
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: the main thing about is Dayah, we gotta figure out

740
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: her name. Is It is clearly more unhealthy that you're

741
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: forcing sex on a kid more than you are letting

742
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: them change their clothes. And I don't know you guys

743
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: know this, but I just want to go through this

744
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: really quickly. You cannot remove genitals or do anything like

745
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: that on a twelve year old kid. You can't even

746
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 1: start um hormonal Zaiah, Okay, thank you, Vincent. You can't

747
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: even start like hormone treatment until I believe it's like

748
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen, so like this is all super preliminary.

749
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: It's it's it's not something that's in discussion yet. And

750
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: I think that is obsession with masculinity. I think it's

751
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: an obsession. Um. And before we get into the hope facts, um,

752
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: I think it's weird how we have such an obsession

753
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: with sexuality with children. I think it's done to young

754
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: girls really quickly based on what they wear. I think

755
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: that we sexualize children more than children sexualize themselves, and

756
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: they have no clue, right. And I think it's fucking

757
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: discussing that we are putting sex onto these children instead

758
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: of just allowing them to simply be children. There's a

759
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: popular video with the guy who's on the pole, uh,

760
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: swinging around. He's an instructor. I don't know if you

761
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: guys have seen it. It's actually really adorable. He's like,

762
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: let's do it again. Look kid, kid can't be more

763
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: than three. And they're not playing any kind of music

764
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: that feels sexual. He's wearing regular clothes. There's nothing porno

765
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: looking about it, and to me, it seems like exercise.

766
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: Not to mention, there's a fucking pole on the playground.

767
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: Speaking of fire poles whose fire alarm went off, that's

768
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: your firelarm. Let's take a ship. Um Well, no, I

769
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: totally um agree with you, Van. I wanna um jump

770
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: into our now hole facs. So the next two conversations

771
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: that we're gonna have with you are ones that I've

772
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,479
Speaker 1: really wanted to have with you. So our whole facts

773
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: segment is where we pull out weird facts about sex

774
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: and for you specifically, because you've been so open in

775
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: the conversation, I wanted to have the conversation about porn addiction.

776
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: We've talked about only fans. We've talked about how you

777
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: literally go onto your Twitter and see porn, but not

778
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: only that. We've talked about how porn Hub has given

779
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: you free premium during the quarantine. Um. But there are

780
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: some effects to porn addiction, and you have talked about

781
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: your experience with it, so I wanted to give some

782
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: facts before we get into kind of your experience with

783
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: porn um. The one of the facts that I thought

784
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: was very interesting is that addiction to pornographic material is

785
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: not just limited to porn videos. This comes from addiction

786
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: a HQ dot Org UM, and it says that the

787
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: action a person has towards pornographic material may not just

788
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: be limited to peorgn videos and other content available on

789
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: porn websites. This addiction for porn would translate into their

790
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: real life as well as they would want to quench

791
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 1: the thirst by trying newer alternatives. UM. So it's saying

792
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: that other other things include um starting from content on

793
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: the internet and move onto a stage where the addict

794
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: would not be able to control their thirsts for porn

795
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: in specific and sexual activity in general. You've got a

796
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: lot of annoised ship going on over the event. That's

797
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: not that's not you? Who is it? Y'all heard that

798
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: bitch of a you bitch and ain't me. I ain't

799
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: got nothing going on, prison bits and goddamnit no anyways,

800
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk to you, um if you can,

801
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: um how you think porn is healthy, but also how

802
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: you think it is unhealthy and which part of that

803
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: you think you experienced, because I'll be honest with you

804
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: before you get into your story, because I know you

805
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: have like an in depth relationship with porn uh without

806
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: actually doing porn. UM. I actually talk about how I

807
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: used it to go to sleep. Um, it's been my routine,

808
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: honestly for the last maybe eight years, Mandy saying it

809
00:42:54,680 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: like she's it's been to me. If I don't watch

810
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: porn and nut before I go to sleep, I have nightmares,

811
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: or I just lay in bed and can't fall asleep.

812
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: I haven't to bust a nut to fucking sleep. Okay, So, um,

813
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you need porn, you know yourself? Because well, no,

814
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: with with so with me, with masturbating. I can only

815
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: masturbate visually, so I have my phone in one hand

816
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: my toy and the other can't do it with my imagination.

817
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: I know you've talked about being real imaginative and your

818
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: goddamn mind before may have to watch porn. And so

819
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: with the pandemic, nigga being at home all day, nigga,

820
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: damn there rubbing my clip off McClinton is almost non existent.

821
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: So I've now gotten to the point where it's almost

822
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: like it's doing nothing for me. So wait, then, the

823
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: last time we caught up, you were telling me how

824
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: like or I don't know if you were telling me

825
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: or we were talking about it, how you cut off porn. Yeah,

826
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: I want to can you can you share that with

827
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: us kind of your unhealthy relationship with it and why

828
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: you have to cut it off? Yo, So like it

829
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: got weird? So um here it got weird. Well, well

830
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Like when I like, I am, I

831
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: represent like two or three different generations of form, right,

832
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: So I'm like, so I'm being for real, it's a truth.

833
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: Like I watched three decades of porn and a magazine.

834
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: I got that. But see all this ship y'all saying

835
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: it's all accurate, because here's it. Because because here's the thing.

836
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: I come home, I want to watch WrestleMania, right, I

837
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: want to watch Mestlemania. Go in my dad's room. The

838
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: fucking VCR in the living room don't work. I try to,

839
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, put the WrestleMania tape and it won't take

840
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: because already taping the VCR. When I played taping the VCR,

841
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: they fucking Jimmy Z and ebony A's they fucking And

842
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, ship, now remember Jimmy Z sounds Jimmy Z.

843
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: Now remember this and I remember this. Now this is

844
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: doing at that same time, I'm twelve, So think about

845
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: going from obsessing with titties in the shirt to sing

846
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 1: two people funk. A lot of people would hold titties.

847
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: A lot of people can deal with that. The obsessions

848
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: started growing in Okay. So like for me, I think

849
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: that I went through times in my life to where

850
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: I did whatever it was the safest for me, you know.

851
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: And so food was safe, like it was it was

852
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: something that I would always be able to come back

853
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: to and you knew it was gonna deliver and really

854
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: poor and was safe. Like if you if you dial

855
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: up the computer, you get on some poor and you

856
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: see something, whatever you want to happen, it's going to

857
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: dial up dial up, you know what I'm saying. Whatever

858
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: you want to happen for yourself is gonna happen. Like

859
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: I think where the addiction started started to become like

860
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: a problem for me then and then a problem even

861
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: uh sort of more recently, is when it's something that

862
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: you feel like you kind of have to do that

863
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: you can't live with that right or or like or

864
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: or like you're not gonna have a regular day if

865
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: every once in a while, see what I'm saying, especially

866
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: being home, if I didn't masturbate at nights to put

867
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: myself to sleep, I didn't sleep well, and before I

868
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: got to bed in the morning, I was like, ship,

869
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: I didn't watch porn last night, so let me make

870
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: up for it. And I was watching porn at seven

871
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning and busting off just because I

872
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: felt like fun. I didn't go to sleep to it.

873
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: Let me wake up to it. And that's when I

874
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this ain't this ain't right. I don't

875
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: really think. I don't know. I don't feel like porn

876
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: is bad as long as you're not like taking it

877
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: into real life and like, for example, like if you

878
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: are into super hardcore sex and then you start slapping

879
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that you're fucking like, I think that's when it

880
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: becomes bad. But as long as you think I'm peg

881
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,959
Speaker 1: the stallion. I think seven years of gay porn got

882
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 1: me to where I am now, and I feel like, fuck,

883
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: it's ruining my sex lack. But I think I think

884
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: anything that you overdo, right, yes, So like so for

885
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: me this computer, like I can't use this as a

886
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: fucking pornographic machine all day. I got a right. I

887
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: ended it ended up being to a situation for me

888
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: to wear What do you do you use your TV, Like, No,

889
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: in order for me to get writing done, I had

890
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: to go to a public place, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

891
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: because if I opened it, if I was opening in

892
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: the computer, my Dick was like, all right, let's go.

893
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What you mean, have you

894
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: been watching porn? Yeah a little bit. Yeah, it's a

895
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: lot of hours in a day. Yeah, a little bit,

896
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: but like not like I was before. Not like are

897
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: you watching twerking porn still or have you graduated? What

898
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: was it? What was your what was your porn preference?

899
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: So everyone knows mine is gay porn. We need this

900
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: boot cocky and cream pies. What is your porn choice?

901
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: Big butt twork porn? Yes, big butts work porn? Actual

902
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: fucking or is it just dancing? Sometimes? But like but

903
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: but what you have to understand it's like for me

904
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: personally and sometimes sometimes there is even but even like

905
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: it's like because you think the ass obsession is so significant,

906
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to watch like other positions. Besides,

907
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: like Carl girl, have you dated women with big asses?

908
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: Or this doesn't try like go into real life like

909
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: this something in the past, but no, no, no, but

910
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: is this something that's like you need Like for us,

911
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: we need niggs with money. Do you need ass? It's

912
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: not about not necessarily, I don't need a niggle with

913
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: a big dick. Sorry, it's what I like so to

914
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: like So when you date even or like preference wise,

915
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: have you felt over the years because of porn it's

916
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: kind of messed with you wanting a woman with big tits,

917
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: are wanting a woman with a big ask because this

918
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: is how you get off? Well, I mean, yeah, it's there.

919
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: There's something to be said from being from the South.

920
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: I haven't been with too many women that don't don't

921
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,959
Speaker 1: have nice butts. You know, the girl has a nice butt,

922
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: So like it's it's not it's not, is it when

923
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: you come from the South. The women that I would see,

924
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: that's true, the women like from the South, the women

925
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: that I would the women that I would say, I

926
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: want to be honest with you. But like like when

927
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: when when I like kind of got to college and

928
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: people were like, yo, man, you know who the finest

929
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: chicken the world is, the finest white girl, I'll be like,

930
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: who would'd be like Angelina Jolie. I'll be like, hell, no, beautiful,

931
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: but Scarlett Johnson got it like that I can do

932
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: with I like my little thick girls, but even with men,

933
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: whirl Man, do you have to that's the game. I

934
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: gotta pick a white girl. Julia Fox who Carmen, a lecturer,

935
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: is white, right, yeah, she's not white enough. We need

936
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: wi for the game, a whier person that I think

937
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: is fine that I would fuck like and eat her,

938
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: little white, little pink pussy. I try to think about it. Um. Oh,

939
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: you know what, because she's I think she's really good looking.

940
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: I hate her talent, but iggy Azalia, bitch, I'll be

941
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: double talent. You just got canceled. God damn, I couldn't

942
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: be less attracted like it. Literally, it is so wild.

943
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: The body whoever her doctor is this picture dog. That

944
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: bitch is beautiful. You know, Okay, she doesn't look that.

945
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 1: Don't do that right. She look a little exotic bitch,

946
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: one of them blackfishing as white girl. She's a spicy

947
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: white um. Anyways, no, um, So basically, why or before

948
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: we get into the horrible decision, which I'm super excited

949
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: to get into because I've saved this topic just for

950
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: your ass um, what tips would you give to somebody

951
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: that thinks that they may be addicted to porn. They

952
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: can just say it, but maybe not that much. Like, well,

953
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, like, you know, like the first

954
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: thing that I would say to anyone that's trying to

955
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: get a hold on anything is don't cut it out

956
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: cold turkey, just try to limit it. I looked up

957
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: one time and I had I had membership to Browsers

958
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: two Bang Bros. To Reality Kings. You was paying for

959
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: all this? Yeah, those twelve minute videos up. I pay.

960
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: I pay for all of it. Number One, I paid

961
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: because I support I'm a fan fan. Number two, I

962
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: pay because I want everything and the best quality when

963
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: I want it. So I don't like, I don't want

964
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: to watch four K and I like to download this

965
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: so I can get to the best part. I don't

966
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: have to if my stream is downloading it. What I'm saying,

967
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying this folder. Yes, I mean from

968
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: being guys, but I don't know what I'm saying. No,

969
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is this though. What I'm saying is seriously, though,

970
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: once it starts to kind of rear its ugly head

971
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: in your relationship or in your uh, in your life,

972
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: you really have to kind of established limits and they

973
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: just will go down from there. Fans like seven, you

974
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 1: guys know how I knew Van was in a trinking

975
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: porn not from he said it on his podcast. That's

976
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: how I found out. But this is how I really

977
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: found out because I too, am nasty and they pop

978
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: up on my explore page, and the only person that

979
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: would follow these pages it would have one neutual and

980
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: it was Van fucking Lateen Niggad. I was like, ye, Nick,

981
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: it's I'm not gonna category coming. There are guys that

982
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: every time I used to follow one of those, because

983
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: I don't really follow them anymore, but every time I

984
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: will follow one of those, I would see their name

985
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: down there too, and I would be like, my nigga

986
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: and some of them are big stars and they know

987
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: who I'm talking about. But you know, this is why

988
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: I know me and my my gay my gay homeboys

989
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: they call. They say that I am a gay man

990
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: trapped in a woman body because we've like in all

991
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: the same nigga's pictures and I'd be like, Nigga, we

992
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: got the same type. And I'll be following all these

993
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: minutes and we'll be arguing about whose team these niggas

994
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: is really on and I'm like, listen, they'd be like, sorry,

995
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: he plays for me. So let me tell you. Me

996
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: and Bennie, some of you guys have met Vine at

997
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: our live show. He's one of my best friends. He's

998
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: been on the show and he works with Mandy and

999
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: Ana tour. Me and Bennie legit have played this game

1000
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: when we've seen men that are super attractive, right, I'll

1001
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: be like, bro, is he gay or not? He's like

1002
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: gay or European? Because the nigga dressed was so we

1003
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: gotta find out, right, So this is no bullshit how

1004
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: this should happened. One time, I think we were on

1005
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: a cruise together and I see this guy. He's dressed cutest,

1006
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: like fun, is he gay or not? So I go

1007
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: up to the guy right Benny's watching. I go up.

1008
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: I'm excuse me. Do you know the time the guy

1009
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: looks at his phone, he's like, it's m like five.

1010
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm we Well, guys were probinally getting

1011
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: into this week's horrible decision. And and this is a

1012
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: conversation that Van and I had on his podcast. I

1013
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: think that it's very important to have because we've had

1014
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: so much body positivity, fat shaming, how weight affects your

1015
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: sex conversations, Yet we've never talked to a man and

1016
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: how weight affects him in dating and in the bedroom.

1017
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: And if you guys aren't familiar with Van's journey, Van,

1018
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: like myself, has gone through a drastic weight lost journey

1019
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: where he decided to get healthier and he's come forward

1020
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: with talking about how his weight affected him in dating

1021
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: and in sex um. But also, you know, we've been

1022
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: talked about as far as shaming chubbier men or thick men,

1023
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: and I know you hate the term thick. So I

1024
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: wanted to start off this conversation with asking you Van,

1025
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: if we can go back to before you lost your

1026
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: weight and started bagging all the bitches and we can

1027
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: talk about maybe some of your insecurities or how you

1028
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: felt weight affected you not only in the bedroom but

1029
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: with dating. Can you go back and and talk to

1030
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: the women and also the bigger men who who may

1031
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: be sharing the same experience what that was like for you. Well,

1032
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: for me, you know, it was always plenty of guys

1033
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: that we're a little bit bigger from bad rooms. They

1034
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: did their thing, But for me, I was just too insecure.

1035
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: It like it was. It's like I am one of

1036
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: those people that like when I was at my biggest,

1037
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: I think I was three hundred and seventy pounds, Like,

1038
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: and how tall are you? I'm six four and so

1039
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: so I will walk into I will walk into a

1040
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: room no matter what and be like, everybody's looking at me.

1041
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: Everybody's looking at the fat nigg in the room. Everyone

1042
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: is looking at me. Everyone is staring at me. I

1043
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: can't eat, I can't do any of this. I can't

1044
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: do anything because if I get a piece of chicken

1045
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: and look at that fat ass niggy, if I said

1046
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: I like, if I if I go like, look if

1047
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 1: it's hot out, so I look at sweaty ass, fat

1048
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: ass nigger like I just thought that all the time.

1049
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: So what Really it was really interesting in the way

1050
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: that affected me. Uh, because I didn't have any sort

1051
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: of confidence in my looks. I had to rely on

1052
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: my personality, so I would take it slow. What does

1053
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: that mean? Meaning for a time in my life, the

1054
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: only girls I ever dated a mess with, with girls

1055
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: that I was in classes with or that I worked with.

1056
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 1: You didn't get on chat lines and stuff up. When

1057
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: he was when he was growing up. Anyways, remember three

1058
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: decades girl, we was, We was catching niggas on my

1059
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: Space and chat lines. When we were, I was, and

1060
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: sometimes you know what that meant. Sometimes I meant you

1061
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: have to wait the nigga out. That means that like

1062
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: like you start talking to a girl and like you

1063
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: you're getting the whole thing. And then I never forget

1064
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: this tell the story in my book. I was seeing

1065
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: a girl that worked the Best Buy with me, and

1066
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: I was making good progress. You know. It was to

1067
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: the point to where I was impressing her with my

1068
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: fucking knowledge and all the movies I had seen and

1069
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: all that. It was starting to happen. She was coming

1070
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: over to the house and staying over and all of

1071
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: that stuff. And then I never forget. Like a new

1072
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: nigger started at best Buy. Landing was his name, And

1073
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: as soon as he walked through the door for his interview,

1074
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: I looked at him and I went, that's a fucking problem.

1075
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: As soon as he started for his Landing was like

1076
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: great guy. He ended up being one of the best dudes.

1077
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: He was swollen ship. He ended up pleasure Kappa. He

1078
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: had to to. He had the three little cuts. My god,

1079
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: and all the little bit back in the day, you know,

1080
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: and he was cool man you talked to Landing, Landing

1081
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: was cool, like it was cool. So he came in,

1082
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: he came for the interview, and then fun I saw him.

1083
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: He got at the job, and I swear to god,

1084
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't a week later that I'm taking the trash

1085
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: out and when I passed her the back they're talking.

1086
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: She disappeared for a month. No, she did like she

1087
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: disappeared for a month. But because Landing was in his back,

1088
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, He was out here during

1089
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: this thing. Eventually I knew that that would fall off.

1090
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: It did fall off, And where where did she? What

1091
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: bead did she fall onto? Three hundred and sixty pounds

1092
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: of love and affection and understanding. So that is kind

1093
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: of what I felt like I had to do. I never, ever, ever,

1094
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: ever thought that I was attractive enough to just go

1095
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: up to a girl and try to see what was

1096
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: popping um. And it didn't change until it didn't change

1097
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: until something very specific happened. As I was losing weight,

1098
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: Like when I first got out to l A, I

1099
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: started like a like a Yahoo personal profile, and I

1100
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: had my old fat picture up there, right, and I

1101
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: would come back to it every day and it was

1102
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: very very depressing because there would be no hits on it,

1103
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: no clicks, no nothing, like nobody was really thinking. Like,

1104
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: no one was like giving me. Folks are in l A.

1105
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: Everything is big and running canyon and all that healthy

1106
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: ship out there, right. And so I started losing weight,

1107
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: Like January that year, I started losing weight. So I

1108
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: think it was maybe like July. I came back and

1109
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: I was like, let me change the picture and because

1110
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: to update my ship, and I changed the picture and

1111
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: it was just like nice little picture of me smiling

1112
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: with like a fake Academy award, and I put that

1113
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: ship up there. And then I'm not trying to say that,

1114
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm like trade songs and nothing like that, but my

1115
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: ship got popping, and that to me was the thing

1116
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: that said, yo, you're straight now. And then it changed

1117
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: the way I kind of viewed things. But what I

1118
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: never lost was the fact that like I just would

1119
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: talk to women, said you're on it was yeah who

1120
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: personals It turned into something else, yeah, like, but I

1121
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: never I never lost the thing that I would just

1122
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: talk to women. Because I spent a lot of time

1123
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: trying to get to know women and trying to talk them,

1124
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: trying to make them see my personality, and that kind

1125
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: of never was. You know what though, as you have

1126
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: such a warm personality, and as I got older, I

1127
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: understand that people could be like this. But I would

1128
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: say years maybe even like eight years ago, just being

1129
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: at that age where I was earlier twenties, and I

1130
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: would need someone like you, like a van. I would say,

1131
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: who's so warm and friendly? And I was confused on

1132
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: whether they wanted to funk me or not because they

1133
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: just had that much of a way with words that

1134
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: other men don't. I'm like, is this blotonic or is

1135
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: it not? Because very few people I think can talk

1136
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: to women and make them feel that comfortable like I mean,

1137
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: that was the only that was the only bullet you

1138
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: had in the gun, right, And it was crazy because

1139
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: I would be around my niggas, right, my my homeboys

1140
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: at that point were all they even still are today,

1141
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: all great looking than outgoing God, all of them were.

1142
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: And the ship that they would say like I was

1143
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: like yo, like like he like I remember, never forget

1144
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: My boy Trey was like, we're talking to this chick?

1145
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: And I was agreeing with her and trying to be

1146
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: supportive and stuff like that. And Trey was like, Nigga,

1147
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: stop blowing his whole head up, just another example of

1148
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,959
Speaker 1: how stupid women are. And she goes, yeah, women can't

1149
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: be stupid. I was like, what you know what I'm saying? Like,

1150
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: I was like, that's that works? So yeah, I'm like, Ben,

1151
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: I want to know, because you you mentioned going from

1152
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, three d and seventy pounds you lost the weight,

1153
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: what was the difference in sex for you as a

1154
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: bigger guy, Like were there limiting positions as a bigger

1155
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: guy where you did you find yourself out of breath?

1156
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: I joke all the time about how as a big

1157
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: girl these knees wasn't no mad to stalion, so I

1158
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: ain't ride a no dick um And I mean, I

1159
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,439
Speaker 1: I know that I felt a difference when I lost

1160
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: eighty pounds, um from how I was energetic in the

1161
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: bedroom or not. How does that affect a man in

1162
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: the bedroom way better? Number one, Like I used to

1163
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: have so I used to be self conscious about sweating

1164
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: all because I used to sweat on I used to

1165
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: sweat on you just the sweat would be just dripping

1166
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: down seeing one girl and she was like doing like this,

1167
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: Like I was like the sweat was dripping down, and

1168
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: so I like I had all kinds of But more

1169
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: than anything, anything that you're expressing yourself physically, it's it's

1170
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: gonna be better, especially sex when you're there to make

1171
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: some secrets. It's gonna be better. The more free and

1172
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: confident you are, you know what I'm saying. The more

1173
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: you feel like yo, like hold on pause. Knowing that

1174
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: she wants to fuck you that bad is gonna help

1175
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: your performance. Like being halfway about it, like is she

1176
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: doing this just because she loves me? Is she doing

1177
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: this just because it's time? But knowing that she actually

1178
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: wants to fuck badly because she's super atracted to you,

1179
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: that lowers your inhibitions. Now you're not playing a mind

1180
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: game with yourself. You're not wondering how you look. You're

1181
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: not trying to like, you know, keep the lights down

1182
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: and nothing, none of that. Ship like that you into it,

1183
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: like you felt like when you were bigger, women genuinely

1184
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: did not want to have sex with you because I

1185
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: were big, And you see, I feel like it's so

1186
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: funny because I actually talked about the opposite. I know,

1187
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: as a bigger woman as a BBW when you know,

1188
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 1: they kicked me, they kicked me out of the BBW club.

1189
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: But when I was bigger, when I was two hundred

1190
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: and thirty pounds, I felt that men fetish sized my

1191
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: size and loved the size I was because when I

1192
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 1: started losing weight, men were mad. Did you have any

1193
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: women that treated you that way to where they actually

1194
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: liked you as a bigger guy? Look, they probably did,

1195
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Like, a lot of people

1196
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: gonna be listening to this and they're gonna be like, yo, Van,

1197
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: we always Van was always kind of but I didn't

1198
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: feel that way about myself. And see and see, I

1199
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: think that's the thing, Like, if you're still in a

1200
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: position where you're desirable, right, if you're going some places

1201
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: that people are coming to you, then that's at least

1202
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: one way for you to gauge, like how you're going

1203
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: to feel about yourself because you know people are still

1204
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: working with you. But if that's not happening, then it's

1205
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: all in your mind about how you look and how

1206
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: you feel. Like I used to want to with the

1207
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: lights off. Now I'm saying, let's turn on the ring

1208
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: like Nigga. So yeah, So I mean that was the

1209
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: whole thing, is just But there were a lot of

1210
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: things that changed as far as like I freed my brain.

1211
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't for me. And they are by

1212
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: the way, there are people, millions of people, billions of

1213
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: people that are chubby fluffy. I hated that fluffy term

1214
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: that are completely okay with its sexy, proud, whatever boom.

1215
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: I just wasn't one of those people. It was inhibiting

1216
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: for me, so I had to get rid of it. Now,

1217
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: we interviewed a girl shout out to Ashley chubby Bunny,

1218
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: she doesn't that That was the first time I've ever

1219
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: heard someone told me that they don't care to be

1220
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: called fat. She was like, oh, I am fat, Like

1221
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: it isn't it is, Like I guess I've always used it,

1222
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: looked at it as a derogatory word. And she was

1223
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 1: saying and her and Mandy were going back and forth,

1224
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: and I found it so interesting. Mandy was like, I

1225
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: don't like fluffy and the girls like and Mandy was

1226
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: talking about she didn't like when men squeezed her, and

1227
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: the girl was like, well, I like it and it's

1228
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: so interesting how because to me, I think what that

1229
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: shows us is one or the other has had someone

1230
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: had an influence of someone saying that there that their

1231
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: body isn't right, or one is not celebrated enough, And

1232
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: I think that's really the problem. Is like if you

1233
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: are dating somebody, if you're a woman who's dating a

1234
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: bigger dude, making them feel sexy, women don't do that

1235
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: to their men. Often, men, I believe, to be honest,

1236
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: give more compliments out dished them out way more to women.

1237
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: And for some reason, we don't do the same celebrating

1238
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: somebody's body whatever it fucking looks like. It's very important

1239
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: making sure that you know that men could have insecurities too,

1240
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: without letting that turn you off. We just assume they's

1241
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: gonna be confident and feel good. Well, I actually do

1242
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: want to give a tip to um. And this is

1243
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: before we wrap up and get to our homemail and

1244
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: get out of here. Um, I want to leave a tip. Man,

1245
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: I would like you to leave a tip too. But

1246
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: even off of what Weezy just said, as far as

1247
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: women leaning in and giving compliments to their men, one

1248
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: of the things that make my men, my lovers, my

1249
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: partners blush. Um, And it's something that I do with

1250
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: especially the ones that I just find fucking makes me

1251
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: even hotter. Like is when we're done having sex or

1252
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: we're just chilling in the house and we're in bed,

1253
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: were naked. When they stand up, I make them walk

1254
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: back and forth at the end of the bed and

1255
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: tell them how fucking good they look naked, And I

1256
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: just love I'd be like, before you go to the bathroom,

1257
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: can you just walk back and forth for me? And

1258
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: it makes them blush and I'll be like, God, damn,

1259
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: you look good naked. And that's something that I love

1260
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: to do when someone's at there, literally there there, there's

1261
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: nothing on, no boxers, no socks, were laying down and

1262
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: when they stand up, I'm just like, can you just

1263
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: model for me? Real quick? Walk back and forth? And

1264
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: it's something that gets a giggle. But that's how I

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01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: like to show the man that I'm with it. I

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01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: think they're I'm completely attracted to them and everything about

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01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: them looks beautiful from their head to their toil. Um.

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01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: I guess then before we let you go and get

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01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: to our homemail, Um, do you have a tip for

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01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: any of the bigger men listening or or women who

1271
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: are dating big men to make maybe their partners feel

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01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: more confident in themselves. Um well, one thing that always

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01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: that I use even now with my girl is affection,

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01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: like like number one, Like I'm very affectionate. Like affection

1275
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: is uh a way that you always let someone know that,

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01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: like you're physically connected to it. So if you're if

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01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: if someone if you feel, if you feel like you're

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01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: not desirable, then you're gonna feel like nobody wants to

1279
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: touch you. And that is the thing that emotionally isolates you.

1280
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: Like when you feel like no one wants to touch you,

1281
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: who would want to touch me? The moment that you

1282
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: are touched by somebody, you feel like this is a

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01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: person who is willingly being close to me. When I

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01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: say affectionate, I don't mean like being draped on over

1285
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: somebody all the time. When she walks by, smack her

1286
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: asked real quick, I like it, you know what I'm saying.

1287
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 1: Like like with like like you pass by, kiss on

1288
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: the back of the neck. You know what I'm saying.

1289
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: And like with with with women, if you if you're

1290
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: mad sitting down, play the game your ball, he's bothering you.

1291
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: He's not playing the game. Just if you want to

1292
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: get his attention, roll over, lay your head on his

1293
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: lap real quick. I'm not saying pull his meat out

1294
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: and suck his dick, although that would be amazing during

1295
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: the game. I feel like it depends on the game,

1296
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: like if you if it does, like if you see,

1297
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: if you're, if you're know, if you if you're a

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01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: dick sucker. I think that's my problem today. I tried

1299
01:08:55,960 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: to come in here and sucking the dick, you know,

1300
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: you know. It was the like he can get the

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01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 1: pussy all the time, Like I'm always sucking dick. So

1302
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: I was trying to suck dick while he was like

1303
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 1: kind of working. I don't know if he was really working.

1304
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: He was like, baby, I gotta finish this. And I

1305
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: was like, really, y'all was tired, and my fucking egos

1306
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: brud And I was like, you know what, because I

1307
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 1: dick suck a lot, I'm a dick. But the reality

1308
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: is that that's dope. But that man also gotta get

1309
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 1: ship done. So pick your battles, pick your blest, a

1310
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: whole as job. We got a whole jobs job. Anyway,

1311
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: show the person the person that you show him you're

1312
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: attracted to him by touching them. I love that. I

1313
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: love that. So again, before you get out, we're not

1314
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: We don't have homemail today, but we have a whole confession.

1315
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: Um this is actually one sentence. We spoke about machine

1316
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: Sex recently and someone wrote in and said, high ladies,

1317
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: big fan of the show. I've recommended it to so

1318
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: many friends. The conversation around normalizing kinks and expressing your

1319
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: needs is so important. I just listened to the most

1320
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 1: recent episode and I wanted to share my experience with

1321
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: machine sex. My partner and I sometimes do m m F.

1322
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,560
Speaker 1: Now we talked about this with um ms be nasty

1323
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: MMF being male male female, but she is referring to

1324
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: male machine female. He bought the machine earlier on in

1325
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: our relationship because he was planning on making a film

1326
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: project with it, or at least that was one of

1327
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: the reasons he gave me. He would also use it

1328
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 1: for solo play once in a while. He is into pegging,

1329
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: and for a while we had opposite schedules, so when

1330
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't around for that kind of play, he could

1331
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: do this on his own. I wasn't interested in the

1332
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: machine until about a year into our relationship, and I

1333
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: finally thought, why not. When we play, he controls the machine,

1334
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: which is very hot for him. He can make it

1335
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: go faster or slower, and he can watch me get penetrated.

1336
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: And he can also see how excited I get. He

1337
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: loves it when the machine is going. I can also

1338
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: suck his dick while getting fucked, which is very exciting

1339
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: for me. You can attach any size dil do you

1340
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: want to the machine? It never gets tired and it's

1341
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: all over. And when it's all over, I get a

1342
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: cuddle with my partner and the machine doesn't get any

1343
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 1: of our attention. My experience with machine play has been great.

1344
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: Stay healthy. You ever played with a machine? Um man? No?

1345
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: I used to have a subscription to machines dot com.

1346
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: Do you ever have a sleevedu dot com? Machines dot com,

1347
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 1: Kin dot com? I had a subscription. I can't know

1348
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: I did have. You are a really important just like

1349
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: never play with she but had a subscription of fucking

1350
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: machines dot com. You know what it is. You can

1351
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: just add him on like once you're on browsing. The

1352
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: ship was like, do you want to join dog Pound?

1353
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,839
Speaker 1: For a dollar? They get they get you with fucking

1354
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: five sites. It's like you join one and they go,

1355
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,560
Speaker 1: that's that's that's really what it is, thirty dollars lifetime

1356
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: membership to this office. I'm like, fuck, why not? You

1357
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: know what at the end of the day, shout out

1358
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: to Crystal Lia. It doesn't make a fucking Okay, you

1359
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: see that it adds a dollar a month? Am I

1360
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: gonna miss twelve dollars for a bit? I'll drink that

1361
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: ship is Starbucks And like a second, facts was seventeen

1362
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: dollars and nineties six cents today and I'm like, what

1363
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: the fuck's three only fans depending on who the girls are.

1364
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: Who's one of your favorites before we get out? Yes, Oh,

1365
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't remember now, like it's too many.

1366
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a lot of good, good all

1367
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: of them. I mean, oh, you know what, but you

1368
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,759
Speaker 1: know what, Miss being Nasty is great. Yeah, she's made,

1369
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: but she's like she's a savant at it though, like

1370
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: she's like weirdly not just it's just like she's super

1371
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: entertaining as well. Yeah, I'm starting to get to some

1372
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 1: point where I don't know, and this is no shade

1373
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 1: to miss being Nasty. I'm so enamored with watching her.

1374
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't masturbate to it anymore. What she donna do now,

1375
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: it's almost performance art one is. And I actually was

1376
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: was telling her. I was like, this, this is why

1377
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't even make videos. Well, first of all, I

1378
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: don't like sending nudes or videos anyways, but I was like,

1379
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: when I see the only fans content that comes across

1380
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: my Twitter timeline, I'm like, if this is what bitches

1381
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: are sending the nigga's phones, I can't compete. I cannot

1382
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: fucking compete. Be Nasty was talking about how she would

1383
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: get her foot and suck a dick like this, and

1384
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm a regular person now, I thought

1385
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: I was. If y'all, if y'all love what Van had

1386
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 1: to say. First off, Van, thank you for finally getting

1387
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: on with us and joining us for horrible decisions. Before

1388
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: we get out of here, let everyone who doesn't know,

1389
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: even though I feel like they're about to know who

1390
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 1: the funk you is. For those who don't know, let

1391
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: them know you're at name where they can find you,

1392
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: and also what other content you got coming out so

1393
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: people can listen to you a little um, hotel as

1394
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: sometimes you hotel, but not really. We're gonna listen to

1395
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 1: your hot takes. Um A Van Layton on Instagram and Twitter.

1396
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: Of course, we have Way Down in the Hole and

1397
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill that's based on the wire podcast we have

1398
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 1: right now. We have a brand new podcast coming with

1399
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: me and Rachel Lindsay Uh to start on the Ringer

1400
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: Um in the next weeks. No, Rachel Lizard is the

1401
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: first black batchel Light. Okay, so I thought she was

1402
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: white too by that name. No, Rachel Lizard is gonna

1403
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: be great. Um. Other than that, like, we got a

1404
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: couple of TV shows coming out, We've got a couple

1405
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: of different We've got a lot of ship going on.

1406
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: So just stay with me. Black Would you look at that?

1407
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 1: I think he knows the color of his co host.

1408
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: I don't care. I just didn't believe it. I wanted

1409
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: to see what yesterday I saw on the zoom. She's

1410
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: a black girl. Black girl. She's not even like a yeah,

1411
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 1: it's yeah, she's a little girl. Well, I mean, if

1412
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: you guys haven't listened to listen yet and we have

1413
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,799
Speaker 1: them coming on our podcast. We I saw the title

1414
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: to your episode on Poor Minds and she's like, am

1415
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: I black enough? Or whatever the fucking title was. They'd

1416
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: be coming up with titles next week. You guys are

1417
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: gonna hear poor minds on our show. I just did

1418
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: their show. Check them out. They were really fun, Like

1419
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: I think they did a great job in asking me

1420
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 1: questions like that that we're kind of I feel like

1421
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: when people have me on their podcasts, they want to

1422
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 1: be like, oh, hell's the wrrible decisions? Cand of talk

1423
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: about your threesomes. But they were like, yo, we'll be

1424
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: reading comments where people say that you want to be white,

1425
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, that was a good question. I

1426
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: do want to um before we get off of here, UM,

1427
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: thank you guys for tuning in. Yes, we are on

1428
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: YouTube now, so we haven't done it yet. UM, but

1429
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: I actually want to give a huge shout out to

1430
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: the person in charge of our videos and social Benson.

1431
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: You guys heard Benson when we were in the studio

1432
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I don't think we've acknowledged him

1433
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: as someone who's been making sure that we have our

1434
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: videos up on YouTube. So I do want to give

1435
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: a shout out to Benson. I also want to give

1436
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 1: a huge shout out as always to our Patreon community. UM.

1437
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 1: Without y'all, there would be no US, honestly right now,

1438
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: God damn y'all keeping us afloat UM. If you guys

1439
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: are all you know, if y'all are all caught up

1440
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: with a horrible decisions content, be sure to join us.

1441
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: And we are leaving you a five minute clip after this. Also,

1442
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: if you guys missed me um having a conversation again,

1443
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: I told you guys. I went on Live um last

1444
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: Tuesday with Jadenna, my fucking future husband. We ended up

1445
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 1: talking about mating in captivity by Esther parrel Um and

1446
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: it was just a really really good conversation. If you

1447
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 1: guys want to hear a conversation where it's three black

1448
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 1: men digging into intimacy and desire and communication, it's really good.

1449
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 1: I know that you guys hear Wheezy and I and

1450
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: a ton of females, but it was really good to

1451
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: just be the one girl in a room of up

1452
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: to four black men about I mean, I ain't I

1453
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 1: ain't gonna. I was like, God damn dinner, you're making

1454
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: me fucking what stop. I was really like, I'm a

1455
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: stapio sexual now, I'm very sexual sexual and I'm a

1456
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 1: stapio sexual now. So it's on Jadenna's YouTube. If you

1457
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 1: go to his his um channel you can tune into us.

1458
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 1: So it's the lit review and literally every week it's

1459
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 1: black men reviewing books. That makes my pussy wet. I

1460
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: don't know about you, but it makes my fucking pussy wet.

1461
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: So check that out. Um. And yeah, do you have

1462
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: any anything for to let them know about with you

1463
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: before we get out of here? No, I'm a loser anyways. Um, guys,

1464
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 1: we want to thank you all for tuning into yet

1465
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 1: another episode of Horrible Decisions by and we talked about it,

1466
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: so for this it is gonna lead me to ask

1467
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: you a question to This is where we get a

1468
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: little crazy. So the whole fact that I found is

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01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: Lisa Sparks, who is a porn star, holds the record

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Speaker 1: for having intercourse with the most men in twenty four hours.

1471
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: She is recorded to have sex with nine hundred and

1472
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: nineteen men in twenty four hours, setting a world record

1473
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: in two thousand, bitch. So my question is how many

1474
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: men max would you have sex with in a twenty

1475
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: four hour time frame? In exchange for one million dollars?

1476
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: I had to throw money out there because we ate ship.

1477
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 1: So how many men, max? Would you have sex with

1478
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 1: in twenty four hours in exchange for a million dollars?

1479
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: So this is thinking the most how is you would

1480
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: be for a million dollars? It's just a million, and

1481
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: I got a lot of people to take care of. I.

1482
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie nine and something that's not happening.

1483
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: First of all, in real life, the max that I've

1484
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: had sex within twenty fours is two men. And that's

1485
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 1: all that I'm gonna do to me. That is like,

1486
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 1: it's a lot of energy, and I didn't feel good

1487
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:05,759
Speaker 1: about that. I even if I got the million dollars,

1488
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know where I would be

1489
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,799
Speaker 1: at mentally, and I am a freak. But I also

1490
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: like value my body. No matter what people say about me.

1491
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: I do. It's gonna be too and it's gonna be

1492
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: the best, great, the best two sexes of the million

1493
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: dollar lots. But but you gotta go board and two.

1494
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 1: If you'd have did two for free, I don't know,

1495
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: it's not it's not gonna be quality. I'm just gonna

1496
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: be laying there and I'm gonna look like I'm just

1497
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: gonna be laying there like it's not I can't do it.

1498
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: That's a lot of body and that's only a million.

1499
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 1: Now you want to talk about somebody bit, I need

1500
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: gonna hold you. You know how excited I just got

1501
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 1: forgetting that's well, honey, all what bitch? Like, what are

1502
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: we doing with all the men? Is it just I

1503
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: just gotta lay down and open my legs. I can't

1504
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: do it. I'm tired. I'm me sleep. No, No, You're like,

1505
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: m it's max is to what's your first off? This

1506
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: question wasn't for me because I ain't even gonna hold

1507
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: You got a lottle fantasy of a little gang day.

1508
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: So I'm like, damn, man, I get paid a million,

1509
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna probably do do a solid six. That's

1510
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: a lot it is with it. I'll be watching these

1511
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 1: gang bangs and you know, I'll be going down to

1512
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: poor and rabbit hole and I'm like, this looks like

1513
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: fun six healthy thought about being on a court with

1514
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: a starting five before, so like, damn, look at this

1515
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: starting five, bitch, all of them could get it at

1516
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: the same time. Bitch, I would have thought about being

1517
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 1: in the locker room. Okay, ship, I have been having

1518
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: fantasies lately about a train being ran on, saying you

1519
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 1: can't do a train with two bitch caboo we need

1520
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 1: So the next segment is the horrid r I decided

1521
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: to find a sex tip, and I would love for

1522
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 1: you to add a sex tip. Um. I wanted to

1523
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: focus on quarantine sex tips, and because my feet is

1524
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: so goddamn raggedy, I was trying to look up sex

1525
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 1: tips involving sucks because I don't want to show these

1526
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 1: feet even if I decided to have dick during the

1527
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: stay at home. So I actually ended up finding this

1528
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 1: is a sex tip, but the sex tip is to

1529
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 1: have socks on while having sex. Women who have difficulty

1530
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: reaching orgasm just may have cold feet. Literally. There's a

1531
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 1: study that found that giving women warm socks increased their

1532
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: chance of reaching an orgasm. Environment is key when having sex,

1533
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: especially for women. So whole Steed found that the reason

1534
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: socks tend to boost the female sex drive is because

1535
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: they help women feel safe and secure. So if you're

1536
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: trying to reach climax, you have a tougher time if

1537
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: the parts of your brain that cause fear and anxiety

1538
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: are active. So they say that for women. We talked

1539
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: about using lube as a way to reach orgasm. So

1540
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: here's a sex tip if you haven't tried it yet,

1541
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: try fucking with socks on and bitch the way my

1542
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 1: feet are set up right now, I'm here for it.

1543
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: Let me know I could get an orgasm with these feet.

1544
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 1: Look in the way they do sins, because it's so crazy.

1545
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: Because I fucking hate people, I would run, maybe some

1546
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 1: like thigh highs and like a like a pantyhose or

1547
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: something with the cold. It's something about socks, and that

1548
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 1: is one of the reasons why I can't get into

1549
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: black porn. I hate when in the makeup, the hair

1550
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: on the women bother me. But wait, you hate a

1551
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 1: man even sucking it socks