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Speaker 3: we got to get into the Grizzlies suspending John Morant. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that happened once again, but we have Game seven to dissect.

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Speaker 3: Jason Tatum sets the Game seven record with fifty one points.

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Speaker 2: Tatum outscored the Sixers, and all of the rest of

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Speaker 1: that third quarter. It is fifty five to fifty five here,

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Speaker 2: Their twenty twenty three first round or is going to Utah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Harden one of eight seventy six ers who can

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Speaker 3: this game? What did you What did you think of

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Speaker 1: Weird, very weird because it was a half hearted grab. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: It almost got him in the Jalens first, almost grabbed

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Speaker 3: It's incredible that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not an important player to the team. They

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Speaker 3: I was gonna says. It almost worked out for this

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Speaker 1: You know it didn't pick up a weird one, but

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Speaker 1: very weird scenario. Also weird seeing those big red boots

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Speaker 2: You can get him for a better price now around

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Speaker 2: All Star weekend. You're paying a thousand dollars only like

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Speaker 1: I guess people didn't want him.

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Speaker 3: I mean the trend is over.

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Speaker 2: It was that was two months ago. We moved on

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Speaker 2: I think once Scott Foster calls it boop on jailing

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think you should be able to.

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Speaker 3: Scott Denver wants.

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Speaker 3: No, we're handing these out, by the way. Tatum just

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Speaker 3: Really? Is he all NBA level? It's like, well, yes,

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Speaker 3: holy crap, was that crowd going nuts? I think it was.

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Speaker 3: Was it Jared Advice of the Athletic pointing out on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: Though, guys, Yeah, a few more things saw Ben Simmons

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Speaker 2: They're a good regular season team, but since Joel Embiid

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think at this point it's a failure. You

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Speaker 2: At that you gotta be one of the four final

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Speaker 1: There are going to be changes. I don't see how

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Speaker 1: you go forward with with hard and a year older

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Speaker 2: Not a steps to success. You're like embiid bringing that

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Speaker 3: No, I don't, guys. The second one, the Sacramento Kings

432
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Speaker 3: have made the conference finals in this in the same

433
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Speaker 3: amount of time that the Sixers haven't. They made it.

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Speaker 3: No two, the Sacramento Kings Sixers haven't been there since one.

435
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Speaker 3: So yeah, this is absolutely a failure. I mean they

436
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Speaker 3: have an MVP, they have a guy that led the league.

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Speaker 2: They have an MVP. Though, yeah, do you have an MVP.

438
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Speaker 2: That was the point, right was like to try and

439
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Speaker 2: get good players.

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Speaker 3: Look at look at this playoffs right here, the Bucks

441
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Speaker 3: go out, I mean the opening is there to go

442
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Speaker 3: to the the conersense little on the files, maybe win

443
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Speaker 3: the whole thing. You know, they're up in this series.

444
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Speaker 3: Harden has done his part. You know, you said in

445
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Speaker 3: winning game one there in winning another one, it is

446
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Speaker 3: it's they have to close out in game six. Task

447
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 3: was right in the end, like that was it and

448
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Speaker 3: they didn't and it was going back to Boston and

449
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Speaker 3: they hung around for a half. I'll give him credit, man,

450
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Speaker 3: that was a really entertaining first half, like the leads

451
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Speaker 3: going back and forth, Tucker contributing and be doing his

452
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Speaker 3: part at least early. His whole thing is that guy

453
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 3: just seems to tire and then mentally check out when

454
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Speaker 3: when the going gets tough. But yeah, it's a failure.

455
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, not even making to the final four.

456
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Speaker 2: Not even making it to the final four and you're

457
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Speaker 2: getting it feels like they keep running into the Celtics

458
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Speaker 2: and getting beaten by the Celtics. They could have had

459
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Speaker 2: Jason Tatum right, Like, this is the worst possible way

460
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Speaker 2: to go out if you're a Sixers fan, because you're

461
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Speaker 2: watching the guy who could have been on your team.

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Speaker 1: Brian Klangeles doesn't regret the pick though, doesn't regret the moves.

463
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Speaker 2: Okay, he's a millionaire and he doesn't have to work

464
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Speaker 2: anymore for this.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would think that he would look at the

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Speaker 1: players involved and say, maybe we shouldn't have drafted for

467
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Speaker 1: need with a point guard, just drafted the best player,

468
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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum. Anyway, I think he thought he was getting

469
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Speaker 1: the best player. I guess if that's what you're picking. Yeah,

470
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Speaker 1: but he also had he had wing, He had wings,

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Speaker 1: so I can't understand the thinking anyway, that was a

472
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Speaker 1: bad pick. They made some bad picks and near there.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what happens next with Doc Rivers Harden a

474
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Speaker 3: lot of this roster like we talked about, and I

475
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Speaker 3: just keep waiting for Trey Kirby's prediction to come true

476
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Speaker 3: here too, where.

477
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Speaker 2: It is so object nobody needs Heat culture more than

478
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Speaker 2: Joel embiid he should be a number two guy and

479
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Speaker 2: the number one guy should be a toe jerk, and

480
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: they got a total jerk down in Miami. Who loves

481
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Speaker 2: being the number one guy who is best friends with

482
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Speaker 2: Joe l Embe.

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Speaker 3: We'll see, we will see. Let's take our first break

484
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Speaker 3: lots more like I said, still to get to on

485
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Speaker 3: the show, don't go anywhere. The Lakers and Nuggets are

486
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Speaker 3: back in the Western Conference Finals. Bubble two point zero.

487
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Speaker 3: Here we go with the Heat and Celtics as well.

488
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Speaker 3: The Lakers punched their ticket to the third round by

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Speaker 3: taking down the defending champion Warriors in six games. The

490
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Speaker 3: Nuggets advanced in pretty dominant fashion, blowing out the Suns

491
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Speaker 3: on their home court in Game six, so much so

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Speaker 3: that they had to fire their head coach. All four

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Speaker 3: regular season matchups between the Lakers and Nuggets they occurred

494
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Speaker 3: before the NBA trade deadline, before the Lakers revamped like

495
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Speaker 3: half their roster. Those games are useless, throw them out,

496
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Speaker 3: But everybody very excited for this. We got the schedule here,

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Speaker 3: It gets underway on Tuesday night in Denver. They haven't

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Speaker 3: lost at home in the playoffs. The Lakers haven't lost

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Speaker 3: at home in the playoffs. So here we go. He

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Speaker 3: one seven matchup. Let's break it down, task, what's one

501
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Speaker 3: thing you're watching here for the Nuggets Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's start with the biggest net matchup, Nicola jokicch

503
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Speaker 1: versus Anthony Davis. That's pretty freakin exciting. Jokic going up

504
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Speaker 1: against Aid, who has been a beast defensively throughout the postseason.

505
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Speaker 1: I think in Party has been a beast because he

506
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Speaker 1: hasn't had a guy to guard all series long. It's

507
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Speaker 1: just been a little bit light with Draymond Green kill

508
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Speaker 1: on Looney and then you know the big of the

509
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Speaker 1: Grizzlies a little bit different where bron could help out

510
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Speaker 1: this time he's got a guard Nikolayokic all day, all night.

511
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Speaker 1: That's going to be tough. Let's see if he can

512
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Speaker 1: slow him down a little bit. Jokic has been phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: He's gotten better since the regular season. He is I

514
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Speaker 1: couldn't believe how much more he's shooting than the regular

515
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Speaker 1: season twenty one shots per game when he's doing like

516
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Speaker 1: fourteen in the regular season. So Anthony Davis can't go

517
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Speaker 1: out in Rome. Bron's gonna have his hands full. I

518
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Speaker 1: guess the best thing to do for you to two

519
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Speaker 1: Jokic is to try and make him work on the

520
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Speaker 1: defensive end if AD can be a beast on the

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Speaker 1: offensive end. But the fact is the Cutters are going

522
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Speaker 1: to be flying around for for Jokic. They've had the

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Speaker 1: best offense this postseason and AD has led the best defense.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if that can keep up against

525
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Speaker 1: this Nuggets team that is absolutely just rolling right now.

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Speaker 1: So I can't I just like, let's just start there.

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Speaker 1: I just can't wait to watch that matchup to see

528
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Speaker 1: what AD can do to slow the best player in

529
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Speaker 1: this postseason. Thirty point seven points, twelve point eight rebounds,

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Speaker 1: and nine point eight seven assists. Those are special numbers

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Speaker 1: right there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're right about Ad who's been incredible around

533
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Speaker 3: the rim, deterring shots and blocking shots and stuff like that.

534
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Speaker 3: He is not going to be able to do any

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Speaker 3: sort of like, you know, drop back deep coverage versus

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Speaker 3: Jokich because Jokic will fire away from three, shooting the

537
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Speaker 3: ball pretty damn well. Here in the postseason. It's had

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Speaker 3: games in that last series, you know, two for four,

539
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Speaker 3: two three in games four and five, and back in

540
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Speaker 3: the first round, he mean, he had a five for

541
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Speaker 3: eight game, like he'll let it fly, like yoll kicch

542
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 3: will shoot seven to ten threes if you leave him

543
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Speaker 3: wide open. He's got the funny release, but he can

544
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Speaker 3: bang them home. So that's just gonna be a different

545
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Speaker 3: matchup there for eighty where you're not going to really

546
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Speaker 3: be able to just straight up leave him. So that's

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Speaker 3: definitely something to watch. And yeah, people are salivating at

548
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Speaker 3: this matchup between Yo Kitchen this guys. I can't wait

549
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: for this one. See the chess match here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the best player on both teams isn't always at

551
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Speaker 2: the same position, so it's pretty cool that they're actually

552
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Speaker 2: gonna be going head to head in this one, especially

553
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Speaker 2: when you consider jokicic easily the best offensive player at

554
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Speaker 2: his position and Davis has been the best defensive player

555
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Speaker 2: at his position. Back in twenty twenty in the Western

556
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Speaker 2: Conference Finals, Anthony Davis went for thirty one six and

557
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: two and a half assists, so not a lot of rebounds.

558
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Speaker 2: He also only had three blocks in those five games,

559
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Speaker 2: which tells you that he's away from the rim. That

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Speaker 2: would be what the Nuggets are definitely going to try

561
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Speaker 2: and do with that pick and roll with Murray and Jokic,

562
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Speaker 2: force Ad away from the hoop, force La into rotations,

563
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Speaker 2: make have to be a rim protector. He was really

564
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Speaker 2: good defending the rim against the Warriors. But it's gonna

565
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Speaker 2: be awesome to see the speed of Davis versus kind

566
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Speaker 2: of the power and brute force of Jokic against each other.

567
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Speaker 2: And that really feeds into the, like the whole math

568
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: question of things. Because the Nuggets are a great three

569
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Speaker 2: point team, the Lakers are a great free throw team.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how that actually plays out.

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Speaker 2: But for me, one thing to watch in this series

572
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Speaker 2: sounds stupid Game one, but this is a huge Game one.

573
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Speaker 2: The Lakers have won both Game one so far, which

574
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Speaker 2: has let them play from ahead in the series the

575
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Speaker 2: entire time, despite coming out of the play in as

576
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Speaker 2: a seventh seed. You mentioned both teams haven't lost on

577
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Speaker 2: their home court. Denver has an incredible home court advantage,

578
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Speaker 2: but this is a big level up in competition for

579
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Speaker 2: both sides. The Nuggets haven't seen anybody like Anthony Davis yet,

580
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: where the Lakers haven't seen anybody like Jokic yet. So

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Speaker 2: I think Game one is going to tell us a

582
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 2: whole bunch and if La is able to steal another one,

583
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: that puts them in a great position to pull the

584
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Speaker 2: upset in the series.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have the rest advantage like they did

586
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Speaker 1: last round against the Golden State Warrior. The Nuggets have

587
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Speaker 1: the rest advantage in this one. I do think Lebron's

588
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: gonna he's going to be able to roam a little

589
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: bit off Aaron Gordon, but that could hurt him because

590
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon is going to be flying around. I don't

591
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Speaker 1: think he can really help on Jokic. But I wonder

592
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Speaker 1: if Jared Vanderbilt plays a big part in this series

593
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Speaker 1: because he's that guy who's chasing around Steph. But he

594
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Speaker 1: can also he can bang and he can get after Jokic.

595
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Speaker 1: So I think they may even take turns a little

596
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Speaker 1: bit just to get Ad off of Jokic. I mean

597
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Speaker 1: a few years ago, it's a totally different series where

598
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Speaker 1: Yokic was going up against JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard,

599
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: those guys were starting, and Ad was playing the four.

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Speaker 1: I think Vanderbilts has got to come help. I mean,

601
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Speaker 1: this is I said stupidly. I wondered if Looney was

602
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: going to be able to wear Anthony Davis down last series.

603
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Speaker 1: Davis held up, and I think to hold up against Jokic,

604
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Speaker 1: he's gonna need some help. So Vanderbilt's going to be big.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they go back to starting him, because

606
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Speaker 1: he was off the floor for true to when they

607
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Speaker 1: went small. But this is great because it is big

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Speaker 1: versus big, as his strength versus strength as opposed to

609
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Speaker 1: the Warriors was, you know, bigs versus small.

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Speaker 3: The other thing to watch for me is which team

611
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Speaker 3: can do the better job of like stopping guard penetration,

612
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Speaker 3: because you know, we could be in store here for

613
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: a huge Jamal Murray series. You know, maybe there's some

614
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: Vanderbilt on him. Shooter's done a pretty good job, or

615
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: did in the last series versus Curry, But like getting

616
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Speaker 3: in there, especially if you think eighty is removed a

617
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: little bit because of how they operate through Jokic up

618
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: top and the dribble handoffs and all that. You know,

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Speaker 3: I think Murray can live in the paint here. I

620
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 3: think he can get in there. Can he finish? And

621
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Speaker 3: then if you can't, can he kick out to these shooters?

622
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Speaker 3: And you said the three point shooting, Like, look, the Warriors,

623
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Speaker 3: obviously we've always considered an elite three point shooting team.

624
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Speaker 3: They went ice cold. They're two splash brothers over the

625
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: last couple of games. But Cacp's been shooting it well.

626
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: Bruce Brown, Michael Porter Junior forty percent still three point shooting.

627
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Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon sort of has his moments. He sort of wigins,

628
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Speaker 3: like to me where it's like, oh suddenly he can

629
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Speaker 3: bang in three four five. Sometimes he goes cold, But

630
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Speaker 3: there's that. And on the flip side, the Lakers have

631
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Speaker 3: a bunch of guys that can get in there. They

632
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Speaker 3: can create I mean, you'll of course start with Lebron James,

633
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: but Austin Reeves attacks Russell can do that shrewder can

634
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: do that. So who can do the best job, like

635
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: at least trying to stay in front of these great

636
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: perimeter players and keep them out of touching the paint

637
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: that either them can kick out two three point shooters

638
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: or even finish inside. That's gonna be a fun little

639
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: little watch there for me. What about an X factor

640
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: TK who you got circled compost crew versus guys being dudes.

641
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: The Nuggets they've got a really steady bench. They played

642
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: incredibly well at home. We saw a big Bruce Brown

643
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: game twenty five points. But in general, it feels like

644
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: the Nuggets bench plays their roles. They blend really well

645
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: with the starting lineup. They can turn into a really

646
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: fast team when Aaron Gordon becomes the backup center.

647
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: But in general, you're just hoping to get good production

648
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: from the Nuggets athleticism, turnover forcing, Whereas with the Lakers,

649
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: they've got random dudes who just come in and win games.

650
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: We've seen Reeves win a game. We've seen Ruy Hotchamurrow

651
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: win a game. We saw Lonnie Walker get dusted off

652
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: and win a game. Maybe Malik Beasley has a revenge

653
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: game against the Denver Nuggets but we've seen literal random

654
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: dudes win games for the Lakers this postseason. I think

655
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: that can be an advantage for LA just because the

656
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 2: names on the Nuggets aren't necessarily going to go out.

657
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: It's more of a surprise when you get twenty five

658
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: from Bruce Brown than it is when you get it

659
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: from Ruey Hachamura for whatever reason. But it seems to

660
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: have been home based. So the team that is at

661
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: home has their role, guys play well, and on the

662
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: road they haven't been there. If we can see a random,

663
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: huge game from either bench on the road that can

664
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: swing one game, which could be the.

665
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: Series, it is big. I can't wait to see if

666
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: Tangel Russell isn't working what Darvin does because he's pushed

667
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: every single correct button. Denis Ruder went to the starting lineup,

668
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: it worked, Yeah, up and down the roster. With those Lakers,

669
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: they do have more options, I suppose then the Nuggets,

670
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: who are just rolling out three guys off the bench.

671
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, it has to happen on the road. That's

672
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: a good point. I mean, it is sounding simple when

673
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: you say important, but it's damn important. It always plays

674
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: a huge factor and who wins the series and then

675
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: I could just have not been soft any quarter at home.

676
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they just haven't let anybody in the games really,

677
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: so they it's gonna be tough for the Lakers to

678
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: steal one.

679
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: If we see Michael Beasley, excuse me, in this series,

680
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: would be wild of vam Like I almost want to

681
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: see it now. He played like twenty minutes in the

682
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: last series in six games, Like he had one game

683
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: where he saw the floor and it was a blowout.

684
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: I don't really think he can play in this series.

685
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: Probably he doesn't pay attention on defense, right right, they

686
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: cut a lot in Denver.

687
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe matches a KCP, but you're right, like if

688
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: they're cutting all over the place, burn But he'll try,

689
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: and I think he could. I think he could try

690
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: and match kcp's threes and see what happens. But KCP

691
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: is a huge X factor. I mean, my X factor

692
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: is the nugget that doesn't shoot threes. They all shoot threes,

693
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: whether it's Porter or KCP or Jamal Murray. But Aaron

694
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: Gordon I think would be monstrous in this series because

695
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: Lebron is gonna want to roam and he's gonna want

696
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: to help on Jokic, and so if Aaron Gordon can

697
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: make him pay by cutting all over the place offensive rebounding,

698
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: which the Nuggets do really really well, and obviously he

699
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: has to d up Lebron, who is looking his best

700
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: throughout the postseason. I know we have such high expectations

701
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: of Lebron that we think he's been okay in meeting

702
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: his expectations, but he is playing his best right now.

703
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: So thirty points coming off that game, there, AG's a

704
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: pretty good matchup for him, though He's gonna body him

705
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: pretty pretty well. And I think you know a lot

706
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: of the times in the NBA we were like, this

707
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: is a good matchup for him, but what ends up

708
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: happening is multiple guys guard multiple guests. In this instance,

709
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be much switching. There's no

710
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: way Bron can come and cover Yokic. It's just not

711
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of that. Vanderbilt can help, but

712
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a lot of AG versus Lebron,

713
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: and that's a very good matchup I think for the Nuggets.

714
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: If he can constant on that and he can just

715
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: use his energy levels to try and cut around Bron

716
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: as much as possible. He can score a lot.

717
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: What did you think of Lebron's comments after the Warriors series,

718
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: because we kept talking about like just reserving his energies,

719
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 3: picking his spots, you know, like he knows like when

720
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: he's got to turn it on when he does it,

721
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: and he was like, no, not really, like I've been

722
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: gassed after every single game, you know, this is what

723
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: he told us. So it's like, no, this is me

724
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 3: at this age in you're twenty, I'm not really picking

725
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: my spots as much as maybe just my physical capabilities

726
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: as I get older and older. Do you buy it? Yeah?

727
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: I do.

728
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think.

729
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 2: I mean tassas he's playing the best he has I guess.

730
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: He did have a thirty point game in the playoffs,

731
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: but Lebron was a lot better earlier this season before

732
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: he had a foot injury. And he looks like he's

733
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: playing forty minutes a night after coming back early from

734
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: a foot injury while being thirty eight years old, and

735
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: also having a lot of players on the team who

736
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: can handle having the ball for five minutes at a time,

737
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: so Lebron doesn't have to do anything. The question will

738
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: be when does he put his stamp on these games

739
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: and which game is a throwback Lebron game? Because he

740
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: saw Game six and said, this is a must win.

741
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: You're getting the best Lebron all night. They got the

742
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 2: best Lebron and they smoked the Warriors. So he still

743
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: got it deep in the bag. But he knows and

744
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: he probably can't summon it quite as often, but he

745
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: can do it for five minutes at a time, and

746
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: that can flip the game prediction.

747
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 3: Where are you going, man?

748
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how the Lakers stopped this offense. I

749
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: guess I said the same thing last round with the

750
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: Warriors offense against the Lakers. They managed to do that,

751
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: but they had a size advantage that they don't have

752
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: in this series. So Anthony Davis has to be huge,

753
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: has to outplay Yokic. I don't see that happening. I

754
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: got the Nuggets in six TK.

755
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: My first prediction is that Christian Brown and Lebron go

756
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 2: head to head against each other and have some sort

757
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: of like Christian Brown trying to rile up Lebron and

758
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: getting a flagrant or a technical. Yeah, that guy's in

759
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: the irritant sure, and I think he'll get some time

760
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: on Lebron just the way, same way he did against

761
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. Just get up in him and be a

762
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: nineteen year old against them pretty much. Yet annoy this

763
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: guy as much as possible, and that'll probably wear on

764
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: things as the series goes on, So look out for that.

765
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 3: I'll be happy if that one comes true. I thought

766
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: I was gonna.

767
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: Believe in the Lakers if they won in round two,

768
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: and I felt the same way as you did. How

769
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: do the Lakers stop the Golden State Warriors? Sometimes you

770
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 2: just miss shots that happened to the Warriors, like Steph

771
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 2: Curry shot pretty poorly the last three games of that series.

772
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson never got on track. A lot of that

773
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: was the Lakers being willing to give those guys shots,

774
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: running them off the three point line, that kind of stuff.

775
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 3: I don't know.

776
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: Weird things have happened. Give me the stupid Lakers in seven. Oh,

777
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 2: I'm in, I'm in fair enough.

778
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: Hey, Look, Lebron's lost one conference finals in his career.

779
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: I believe right, lost in nine when he was with

780
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: the Cavs to the Magic. That's it. He's ten and

781
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: one in conference finals. That's something you really can't I mean,

782
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 3: you can't go right with any prediction you make here

783
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: because you're going to piss off Oh totally, either fan base.

784
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 3: You either say, I like the Lakers, man, you got Lebron,

785
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: you got a D and then Nuggets go, what, we're

786
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: the best team in the regular season. We have the

787
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: guy that maybe he should have won three MVPs in

788
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: a row, playing even at a higher level, Jamal Murray

789
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: back to like Bubba Murray. Everybody contributing, it's like the disrespect.

790
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 3: It's it's it's real. So you do that, and then

791
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 3: if you pick the other side, you say the Nuggets

792
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: home court advantage, all the reasons I just went through,

793
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: People say, what are you talking him? Are you gonna

794
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 3: bet against Lebron James again, just like you did against

795
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: the Warrior. I get it, I get it, But I'm

796
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: gonna go the flip of what TK said, and I

797
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 3: think home court advantage will matter. I think the longer

798
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: series go, it might actually favor the Denver Nuggets a

799
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: little bit. I'll go Nuggets in seven. But this one's

800
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: fun because I've seen people going, no, Nuggets are gonna

801
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 3: wax them, obviously, people picking the Lakers. This one's all

802
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: over the map. What do you guys think where you

803
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 3: go in how many games? Tast says Nuggets and six.

804
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: I'll go Nuggets and seven, and TK he believes in

805
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: those Lakers. He's going Lakers and seven. You think it's

806
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 3: good where you think it's gonna be a hell of

807
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: its Absolutely.

808
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 2: This should be a banger.

809
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 3: I think it will be really fun if, like you said,

810
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: game one, maybe even game two, whatever one, can the

811
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: Lakers do what no team's done yet and go into

812
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 3: to Denver and take away the home court advantage right

813
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 3: away like early in this series because they have just

814
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: been lights out, like they destroyed Phoenix and Denver, Yeah,

815
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 3: destroyed them there in a series that you know goes six.

816
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 3: But they were in those games in Phoenix, but just

817
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: killed them when they're at home. So gets underway on

818
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: Tuesday night. Again, let's hear from everybody out there, though,

819
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: when it comes to your predictions for the Nuggets and

820
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 3: Lakers in the Western Conference Finals. All right, the NBA

821
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: does not mess around, guys. In the aftermath of a

822
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: blowout elimination loss in the Western Conference Semis, the Suns

823
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: fired head coach Mani Williams on Saturday night. According to Wojes.

824
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 3: New Suns owner Matt Ishbia made the decision to dismiss

825
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 3: Money immediately after Thursday Nights Game six loss to Denver.

826
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: How shocked were you by this test that the Suns

827
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 3: in Ishbia new owner Syndrome here maybe have fired Money Williams.

828
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: Well, I guess that they didn't deliberate at all. That's

829
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: that's surprising. He was at every game. Ishbia was sitting

830
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: with his man, Isaiah Thomas. He is very much into

831
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: the games. He's not a hands off owner. Obviously, two

832
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: huge decisions within four months to go get Durant and

833
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: now three months I guess to and then to fire

834
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: Monty Williams. He was almost going to be an assistant

835
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: coach after his college career, so I guess he likes

836
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 1: the the aspect of coaching. And I'm sure the people

837
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: who he was with Isaiah being the main one.

838
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 3: Isaiah's little finger.

839
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, spring, Yeah, what's going on? Yeah, we will see

840
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: what role Isaiah plays going forward here. But he definitely

841
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: thought he thought that Money wasn't doing a good enough job.

842
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: He's obvious. Money was obviously shorthanded with his roster. I

843
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: think there's no doubt about that the fact that Eton

844
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: and Chris Paul were out to end this series, and

845
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean that's where my mind goes. The roster has

846
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: to get better if they're gonna win. And so we've

847
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: seen change after change after change, Durrant, Manti Williams, and

848
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: now the Chris Paul factor is the biggest one, even

849
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: before DeAndre Ayton, because there's a deadline here. Chris Paul

850
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: is scheduled to make thirty million next year, but only

851
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: half of it's guaranteed, So in a month, it's what

852
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: June twenty eighth, he can say, now we're gonna move

853
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: on from Chris Paul. I think that's a possibility where

854
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: you'd only have to pay him fifteen of his thirty

855
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: mil and the rest of it isn't even guaranteed. The

856
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: following year, there's zero dollars guaranteed, so just be eating

857
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: fifteen meals. So that is the biggest decision, And I

858
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: think the roster is a little bit more of a

859
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: factor than Monty Williams coaching. But I think you can

860
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, poke holes and money Wams didn't have a

861
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: good relationship with deanre Eaighton never talk to him after

862
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: last year's debacle of a series. So there's pupposed to

863
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: be poked. But I think I think the biggest thing

864
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: is a roster right now.

865
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 3: Do you think Ishbia has a head coach lined up here,

866
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: hence why Monty Williams was fired immediately after losing. Think

867
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 3: it is Isaiah Thomas? No, I don't, but I think

868
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 3: it's I don't know if it's Tom Izzo and the

869
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: Michigan ties there, or if it's another one of these

870
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 3: like notable head coaches that have won a championship. It

871
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: feels to me maybe it's just Matt Sshubia just being yeah, impatient,

872
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: just like all right, I don't want him to be

873
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: our head coach anymore. I got a feeling he's got

874
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: somebody like coming in here, like we're gonna find out soon.

875
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 3: That's what my gut says.

876
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: But what do you think the getting's good? There's a

877
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: lot of known coaches out there, and a lot of

878
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: coaches who maybe have pre existing relationships with some of

879
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: these players. But I wonder who's gonna be hiring the

880
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: coach because this came out basically saying this was one

881
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: hundred percent of Matt, it should be a call. James

882
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: Jones not involved at all, So I don't know what

883
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: James Jones is doing there anymore because they traded all

884
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 2: their picks. Guy doesn't like drafting anyways, Matt Is he

885
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 2: has making the calls on the coach, who's hiring the coach,

886
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: who's actually in charge? Is it Isaiah Thomas trained a

887
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: lot of first round picks for an old veteran and

888
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: then firing your coach. Those are Isaiah Thomas moves. But

889
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: this cannot be surprising. The Suns blew a two zero

890
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: lead in the finals to lose in twenty twenty one.

891
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: They got smoked by the MAVs at home in twenty

892
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 2: twenty two, and then they got smoked again, Yeah in

893
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Three straight bad endings like that plus

894
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: a new owner, you're gonna get kanned.

895
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, despite a lot of success, especially when you compared

896
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: to what was going on in Phoenix before Money William

897
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 3: showed up. He had a sixty three percent win percentage

898
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: in the regular season. He was twenty seven to nineteen

899
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Money was in Phoenix, they won a

900
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: record sixty four games franchise record sixty four games in

901
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: twenty one twenty two they reached the finals, like TK

902
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 3: said in twenty one, but just flamed out. Unfortunately for him.

903
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: Over these especially these last two years, they are in

904
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: historic fashion. He had three years and twenty million dollars

905
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: left on his contract here. That's what's being reported too,

906
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 3: So Ishbia does not care, which also makes me believe

907
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: he's got some way lined up. But is it a

908
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: Frank Vogel, Is it a Nick Nurse? Is it a Budenholzer?

909
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: Is it Tylou? There are whispers that he may not

910
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: be long for the Clippers head coaching jobmn I mean

911
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: his contract's not expiring.

912
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: But whispering again, Yeah, yeah, we'll see. I thought this

913
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: was a great great line here from Doug Holler of

914
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: The Athletic about Ishbia and his outlook on the business world.

915
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: He said, quote Ishbia as an aggresive leader. In his

916
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: book Running the Corporate Offense Lessons in Effective Leadership from

917
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: the Bench to the Boardroom, he writes that he's a

918
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: big believer in trial by error. That is, quote, make

919
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 1: a decision and go for it, make necessary changes along

920
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: the way. The first sentence applies to the durant shade.

921
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: Make a decision and go for it. Yes, and then

922
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: the second one applies to William's dismissal. Make necessary changes

923
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: along the way.

924
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 3: He's making moves.

925
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: So it's got to be a big name coach, right

926
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: that's drawn out a lot of inspiring performances from his players.

927
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: He's a walk on, you know. He he wants he

928
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: wants somebody that inspires great performances.

929
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: You don't think this like screams an assistant moving up,

930
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: either in Phoenix or a first name head coach. You know,

931
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 3: it's never done the actual head coaching.

932
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: He just let money go for twenty mil. As you said,

933
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: he's ready to spend. He's ready to spend that mortgage money.

934
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: Mortgage business is good.

935
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 3: We have, yeah, we have before, no wonder he's loaded.

936
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 3: We have four vacant NBA head coaching positions right now,

937
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: the Pistons, the Bucks, the Sons and the Raptors TK.

938
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 3: How would you rank these if you were a hot

939
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 3: young coach, which you might be Trey for all I know,

940
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 3: I would never coach Oh okay, good, But how would

941
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 3: you rank them in terms of like, oh wow, this

942
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: is a this is the best of these four vacancies here?

943
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 2: I would go Bucks, Sons, Raptors, Pistons. Okay, the Bucks

944
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: have one of the three best players in the league

945
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: in the middle of this prime. Honest goo, yep, that's

946
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: pretty good. The Phoenix Suns have Devin Booker, one of

947
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: the best young players in the league in his prime,

948
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: and they also have Kevin Durantan, and then they have

949
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of question marks after that. But you

950
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: get to live in Phoenix, don't pay taxes. That's pretty nice.

951
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: The Toronto Raptors, what do they have? They have eight

952
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: of the same.

953
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: Player they have Toronto.

954
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: They do have Toronto a great city, but unfortunately the

955
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: NBA season runs through winter, which is a problem for

956
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 2: many coaches. So you gotta be you gotta be built

957
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: for it to live in Toronto. And then Detroit you're

958
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 2: getting an assistant Okay, yeah.

959
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: I mean it's looking that way. I guess in Detroit,

960
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 3: I thought you maybe would put Detroit ahead of Toronto,

961
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 3: but maybe you'll wait until tomorrow at like eight twenty

962
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 3: pm Eastern. If the Pistons were to win the number

963
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: one fair fair yeah, and word to grab a Wemby.

964
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: I guess the Raptors technically could too, but chances much

965
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 3: more slim one percent chance. Yeah, I think it's one percent.

966
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 3: I think you're right, my man. Wow, Yeah, it's one percent.

967
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: The Raps have it getting Wemby, but the Pistons have

968
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: fourteen percent along with the Rockets and Spurs. How would

969
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 3: you agree with his Yeah, I think what we're getting

970
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: at is it is it Bucks or Sons? Yeah, if

971
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: you want of these.

972
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: You're not putting the Raptors below the Pistons. Uh, yeah, one, one, two, three,

973
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: four is fine. The reason that Trey gave as the

974
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: Bucks being in the one spot was the exact same

975
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: thing Mike Buenholzer thought in twenty eighteen when he picked

976
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 1: the Bucks over the Raptors. I said, Kumpo's there, I'm

977
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: going there, and I'm not going to Toronto. He had

978
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: the option to go to both, and Nick Nurse got

979
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: that other job, and it's a very similar ranking.

980
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: You also brought up, is James Jones maybe going to

981
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: be a GM of this team for much longer? What

982
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: about some whispers of Bob Myers, he'll be Bob Phoenix.

983
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 3: Interesting if he were to leave the Golden State Warriors.

984
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 2: Damn, he's probably at the very least he's excited that

985
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 2: there's a possibility, I would imagine for negotiating. It's good

986
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 2: to have another landing spot, especially one where you've got

987
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: a relationship with Kevin Durant. I don't know exactly how

988
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: it ended. I don't know that Katie's life last season

989
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: in Golden State was anybody's favorite thing, but uh, maybe

990
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 2: maybe something.

991
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 3: Man, it is crazy that two of these vacant head

992
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: coaching positions. These teams were in the finals two years

993
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: ago in Nick Nurse and Milwaukee, and obviously Monty Williams

994
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: in Phoenix. It's crazy. I just like this just moves.

995
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: It moves quick. Man just goes.

996
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: There's a lot of middle of the road coaches out there, yeah,

997
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 2: and a lot of coaches win one title. The greats

998
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: win more. The best coaches of the past twenty years

999
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 2: have been guys who didn't have any head coaching experience

1000
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 2: before they got to the NBA. Eric Spolstra and Steve Kerr.

1001
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: When their teams didn't win titles, they didn't move on

1002
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: from them. They kept them there and those teams have cultures.

1003
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: So maybe you should keep your coaches that win titles.

1004
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: Just something I think.

1005
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1006
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: We'll see if the raptors and credit.

1007
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: Actually think there's only one good coach in the NBA,

1008
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 2: any coaches in Miami.

1009
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: Wow, let's hear from everybody out there when it comes

1010
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: to those four vacant spots. How you rank in them? Ah? Right?

1011
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: I put in my notes here, jack Ja Morant back

1012
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 3: on his bullshit. So Ja Morant was suspended by the

1013
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 3: Grizzlies on Sunday after he appeared to be holding a

1014
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: gun in another social media video that was streamed live

1015
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 3: on Instagram. It's the second time in less than three

1016
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: months that jaw was seen on ig holding what appeared

1017
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 3: to be a weapon. I mean it's a weapon. It's

1018
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: either a fake gun or it's a real gun. So

1019
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: it's a gun. You see him for a second there.

1020
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 3: The first one, it led to an eight game NBA

1021
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 3: suspension cost him a lot of money if we're being honest,

1022
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: Like if you believe that was a big part him

1023
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: missing games at the end of the year and just

1024
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: sort of the black mark on the Grizzlies franchise. It

1025
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: cost him like thirty nine million dollars because he didn't

1026
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: make all MBA. It's wild, and it also cost him

1027
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 3: like seven or thousand dollars in suspension money. But yeah,

1028
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what you have to say about this.

1029
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: What do you think the league does here? The Grizzlies

1030
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: have suspended him, Where do they go here from here?

1031
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 1: As far as the money goes. I mean, that could

1032
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: just be the tip of the iceberg in terms of

1033
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: his relationship with Nike. Kudos to the Grizzlies at least

1034
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: this time coming out and suspending him in definitely right away.

1035
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: Last year it was a bit of kid's gloves that

1036
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: they sort of handled it gently and the NBA stepped in.

1037
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: This time being the second incident and jaw flashing that

1038
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: thing casually in a car and the Instagram live feed

1039
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: not even ending immediately was surprising to me after watching it,

1040
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: thinking he must realize what he's doing is wrong. He

1041
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: must be turning off that his friend's camera. That didn't happen.

1042
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: They just kept going on for a bit, so that

1043
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: was shocking to me. He said in the first incident

1044
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: that the gun wasn't his, and in this incident, maybe

1045
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: it's not his either, But he's still hanging with the

1046
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: same people who have those guns. And to give him

1047
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: some sort of benefit of the doubt, he could have

1048
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: mental health issues, and sometimes when you have these issues,

1049
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: you can't make a rational decision, even if you know

1050
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: the side effects. But the fact is he's hanging with

1051
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: people that have those guns. He's flashing it casually. He

1052
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: didn't learn from the first incident. And yeah, it was

1053
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: unfortunately that the whole redemption angle with everybody wearing the

1054
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: sweaters to the game. When John Morant came back and

1055
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: everything that he learned, he said he wasn't fixed. I mean,

1056
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: he hasn't been fixing himself enough. He's still hanging with

1057
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: the people that are able to get him into these scenarios.

1058
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: And I'm glad the NBA has a no tolerance policy

1059
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a long suspension.

1060
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 3: You think so because of despite the supposed counseling that

1061
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 3: Ja Morant went through, the first time, despite the remorse,

1062
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 3: here he is doing it three months later again on

1063
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 3: ig Now, what does the league do? How severe?

1064
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: More severe than eight games? I would have to imagine.

1065
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: I think Gilbert Arenas got suspended for fifty or something

1066
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: like that. But once again, as we talked about way

1067
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: back when, a little bit different situation. But you're right, Test,

1068
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: I mean, this was on his friends Instagram. That to

1069
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: me is like one of the biggest red flags where

1070
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: you're like, come on, man, like you're hanging out with

1071
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: the same people and they're putting you out there and

1072
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: it's not going well for you. So he obviously didn't

1073
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: learn the first time around, and there's just gonna have

1074
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: to be more consequences if Jah's gonna learn this time around,

1075
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: which maybe he does, or maybe this jeopardizes what's going

1076
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: on with the Grizzlies in general.

1077
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see. I know there are some people like, oh,

1078
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 3: how could the Grizzlies, Like what do they have to

1079
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 3: possibly stand on to suspend them or the league? I

1080
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 3: guess it's he works for the NBA. He works for

1081
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: the Grizzlies. They'll just say, conduct detrimental tests to the

1082
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,479
Speaker 3: league or team done. That's what they'll say. So yeah,

1083
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if you guys have an

1084
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: opinion out there in the stream team right now listening

1085
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: later what the NBA should do with the Grizzlies. How

1086
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 3: many games are you thinking and now what happens. Yeah,

1087
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 3: there was like something like one hundred and eleven people

1088
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 3: on this live stream for DeVante Pack when he did

1089
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 3: it one hundred and eleven. And I guess the only

1090
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 3: thing I can think of, not that it makes it right,

1091
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 3: I mean, is that maybe he didn't know he was live,

1092
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 3: that John Moran didn't know that his buddy DeVante Pack

1093
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: was live on his cram, that he's just you know,

1094
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: filming as they're rapping along and all that. I guess,

1095
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: I guess. But it's like wild Man.

1096
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: Jam Morant is not Paul Pierce. I mean, he knows

1097
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: the ins and outs of Instagram live. But he was

1098
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: flaunting this gun. He wasn't. At the beginning of the video.

1099
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: It was you see the gun for a second.

1100
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: You see the gun for a second.

1101
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, But his buddy Pack, once he shows the gun

1102
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 3: drops basically the camera, I mean the camera like.

1103
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then it keeps starting. But then the video

1104
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: keeps keeps going. Yeah. Yeah, So it wasn't like he

1105
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: was flaunting at the beginning. He pulls it out or

1106
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: friend gives it to him or whatever. You know, these

1107
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: are all details. Nothing makes it right. I'm just shocked

1108
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: at it that it happened again. Frankly, that's that's the

1109
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: biggest thing. And yeah, I'm glad the NBA does have

1110
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: a no tolerance policy. Gilbert was different. Yeah, but we

1111
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: remember that Gilbert was on the court and sort of

1112
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: mocking the NBA because he was doing the whole handgun

1113
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: gesture when he was in the huddles, and that's what

1114
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: he was doing pregame. So it's it's different. But this

1115
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: is back to back times on camera. So you say, yeah,

1116
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: this is would you say, eleven people, So what is

1117
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: he doing when the ig is off? That's well, that's

1118
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: the thing.

1119
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: Jaw is probably not the only guy in the NBA

1120
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 2: who has a gun. No, he's the only guy who

1121
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: shows up on Instagram live with them though.

1122
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, yeah, I mean, yeah, I'll be fascinating.

1123
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 3: You said, like the Gilbert thing, that was like Stern

1124
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: looked at that as like he is mocking this entire

1125
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 3: situation exactly, and boom hits him with a huge suspension.

1126
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 3: You know, Stern, that's how he operated, right, I mean,

1127
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 3: he's sort of like almost like a mafia tight boss

1128
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 3: or whatever. Silver has not shown to be like that, obviously,

1129
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 3: much more a player's commissioner. But this is simple. It

1130
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 3: is like he went and talked to him. You have

1131
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: to assume the conversation between silver and John Moran is like,

1132
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: all right, man, lesson learned here, you know, no more

1133
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: of this. You're a role model for this league obviously franchise.

1134
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: But you know that's I'm like, I'm guessing that's what

1135
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 3: went down. Yes, yes, remorse, yes, and then to do

1136
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,959
Speaker 3: it not much longer later, basically the exact same thing. Yeah.

1137
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 3: I mean see, he should he should be penalized by

1138
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 3: either the Grizzlies or the league, and they usually want

1139
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 3: the league to do it, so then it's not as

1140
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 3: awkward as the Grizzly saying we're suspending you, but maybe

1141
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 3: they will crazy crazy that this goes down some three

1142
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 3: months later. Let's hear from you guys out there though,

1143
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 3: your thoughts on this Ja Moran incident happening once again.

1144
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: Gott to take your final break when we come back.

1145
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 3: Tweet of the night, don't go anywhere, all right here

1146
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 3: in the classic factory. Still, let's get to tweet of

1147
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 3: the night.

1148
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: Tweet of the night, wowwet.

1149
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 3: All right tweeted the night goes to our guy Steven

1150
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 3: Underscore Lebron Alex Wong, who was retweeting with a funny

1151
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 3: comment pointing out something that the Sixers had up on

1152
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 3: their Twitter account, So Stephen Lebron Alex tweeted, it's seven

1153
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 3: and this is the last tweet from the Sixers account.

1154
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: I loved the social media era of sports. So the

1155
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 3: tweet that Alex was sharing was this Sixers tweet. Here

1156
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 3: on the right side of our screen, graphic of PJ.

1157
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 3: Tucker with the score on it. It was tight at

1158
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 3: the half, Celtic's up three point fifty five fifty two,

1159
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 3: and the caption just says at the half, you know, man,

1160
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 3: you know, a little shout out there to Crypto dot

1161
00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:01,959
Speaker 3: com whatever. They haven't tweeted since I checked later last

1162
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 3: night when this tweet made me laugh. I checked this

1163
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 3: morning as soon as I got up, and I just

1164
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 3: checked right now. The Philadelphia's seventy six ers Twitter account

1165
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: has not tweeted. If you're following this game and for

1166
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 3: some reason you don't have TV or any other internet

1167
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 3: and you can only get the Sixers Twitter account to work,

1168
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 3: you still think it's half time. You don't know what's happened,

1169
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 3: what is going on here now? I have seen some

1170
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: people say there was a tweet about Tobias Harris that

1171
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 3: got deleted.

1172
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1173
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 3: I couldn't. I don't know if that's true. But this,

1174
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: as of this morning here eleven o'clock on Monday morning,

1175
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: is still the last thing they've tweeted. Is very weird.

1176
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: Nothing good happen in like the first three minutes of

1177
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: the third quarter for the seventy six ers that they

1178
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: could have snuck in like a little ooh sick bounce

1179
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 2: pass by MAXI to Harris got they got away from

1180
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: the minute hurry from what I.

1181
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: Remember, well, I guess Tobias Harris.

1182
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Tobias gets it started in the second half.

1183
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: That's that's what Yeah, that's apparently that's what it was. Yeah,

1184
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: that's what makes it even funnier. Yeah, apparently it's as

1185
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: start us off, Tobias, That's what I said. Yeah, he

1186
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: he They collapsed on and beat if I'm right, and

1187
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: he whipped a shot or whipped it past to Tobias

1188
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 1: who hit a wide open three. Things are looking right

1189
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: there to start the half. But why did they delete?

1190
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: So did the did the sixers? You know? Social media

1191
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 3: manager just straight up quits. The Celtics started going on

1192
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: a run and they're like, fuck, yes, I'm not doing

1193
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 3: this again. I'm out of here. Just probably left.

1194
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine that being the seventy six

1195
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: or social media manager is a fun place to be

1196
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: after any loss. No, I imagine Game six was probably

1197
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 2: a rough one, so Game seven had to be even worse.

1198
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: And you're right, Tobias Harris did hit a three pointer

1199
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: literally right at the start of the third quarter, and

1200
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: then the second the Sixers score or the Celtics scored

1201
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: the next four baskets and it.

1202
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 3: Was a ten point game within three minutes. And that's

1203
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 3: probably when they're like.

1204
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 2: Uh, but I actually think this is pretty smart, Like

1205
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: you don't need a tweet. We lost and it was

1206
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: a disappointing end to our season. Just let people notice

1207
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: that it was your last post. Whenever they post again,

1208
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: it will be fine. But obviously they Crypto dot Com

1209
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: a couple of sponsored score posts here coming up, so

1210
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: maybe we'll get an update a little bit later today.

1211
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 3: Just checking in on the final score. It's just weird, really,

1212
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 3: It's like I'm almost concerned, like maybe maybe this person's

1213
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 3: got it. Got all the passwords too, Like Maury can't

1214
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 3: even get in there and say we'll get them next year,

1215
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 3: You know nothing, I don't know. I want this. Here's

1216
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 3: what they need to lean into this. This is the

1217
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 3: tweet that stays up all summer, forever, forever, until they win,

1218
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: until they go to the conference finals. Start a new

1219
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 3: Twitter handle.

1220
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1221
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 3: Anyway, great stuff there from Steven underscore Lebron pointing it out.

1222
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: I like that's from Ian. Was that the first firing

1223
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: from the Sixers organization? Ah, they're holding the social media

1224
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: manager accountable before the players and coaches.

1225
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 3: It was that guy's faults.

1226
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: I mean that person is Twitter blue, that's for sure.

1227
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't mind that that there wasn't a tweet the

1228
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: more depressive.

1229
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: Guys, guys, it's hold on, hold on. This is game

1230
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 3: seven of a playoff series. It's a basically a tie game. Yeah,

1231
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Why they tweeted? Every team

1232
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 3: does this. They follow along the game, even at the

1233
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: end of the third quarter when they just got crushed.

1234
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 3: It's like, hey, one more cue to get back into

1235
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 3: you gotta say something.

1236
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: No, you don't, I don't what you just what You're

1237
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: just putting it out there to get dumped on. Well,

1238
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: well I'm sure it is getting dumped on.

1239
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: Well now it is even more because people are like,

1240
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 3: where is a towe. So what you want another ten.

1241
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: Tweets of the same thing, you fools, You let us down. Yeah,

1242
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: it ain't a social media manager's fault.

1243
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: Everybody saw the game. They know it's it's the most

1244
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: basic of tweets that happened, Like you just at the

1245
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: end of third cour at the end of the game.

1246
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah we lost by forty points. Here's the score. We

1247
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: all know. But people are watching the game, they're not

1248
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: watching Twitter dot com. Yeah, it's a sad one.

1249
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 3: You guys are basically saying the equivalent of when we

1250
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 3: shoot on players after they lose and they don't talk

1251
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 3: to the media. This is the same thing. To me.

1252
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, man, you guys got killed. You

1253
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: gotta thank the fans, gotta say great season, We'll get

1254
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 3: them next year. You gotta build some confidence with yours,

1255
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 3: with your fans.

1256
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: You gotta show up Twitter, social media manager, you gotta

1257
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: show up. You gotta interview. After the game, after you

1258
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: shower and you clean off your mouse, you get to

1259
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: your Twitter, to your computer and you tweet, you tweet

1260
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: some I mean, who cares.

1261
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna find out what happened here. This

1262
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 3: is weird. It's just weird. It's weird that they're like

1263
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 3: you guys said these even early in the third quarter.

1264
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 3: Tweets are not nowhere to be found until they were

1265
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 3: down twenty. They were winning Game seven on the road

1266
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 3: for a little bit in the second half.

1267
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: We gotta know if the if the manager is a

1268
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 2: Sixers fan or not. You don't have to be a

1269
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 2: fan of your team to run the social media accounts.

1270
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: But this reads like I'm a fan of the team

1271
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: and it's.

1272
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: Not going well it was.

1273
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a story on the Athletic about this,

1274
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 3: so you wait and see.

1275
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the best description for this game

1276
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: was gutless from the seventy six Ers. It's pretty on point,

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Speaker 1: I think, and I think, yeah, the guts were taken

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Speaker 1: out of the social media manager couldn't tweet.

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Speaker 3: I respect it.

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Speaker 1: I respect it, So walk away from the computer.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if that's what happened, yes, absolutely, that's great,

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Speaker 3: very very funny stuff. All right, let's call it there, guys,

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Speaker 3: was it a classic? You tell us? Subscribe like the

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Speaker 3: video if you're watching on YouTube right now. Podcast listeners,

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Speaker 3: leave your boys a five star rating and review. We

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Speaker 3: will be back here tomorrow. To preview the Celtics Heat

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Speaker 3: Eastern Conference Finals, get into any of the other news.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we learned Doc gets fired, Maybe we have an

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Speaker 3: NBA coaching hired. Who knows, but we'll be here at

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Speaker 3: ten am Eastern tomorrow morning. Thanks for joining us now,

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Speaker 3: clipp Bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time,

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Speaker 3: turn up.

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Speaker 2: Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us, and remember Sixers lost. Nice

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Speaker 1: Hi just.

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Speaker 3: Can't get over, just can't get over.

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Speaker 2: It's still surprising, so surprising it went down like that gutlass.

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Speaker 3: Em Brace the day, people,