WEBVTT - April Q&A 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:06.880 Welcome to the solid verbal. I'm that for me. I'm 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.680 a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:11.640 I want to be happy. You want to be happy 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:16.040 for Dake Edith State. Is that whoo whoom? And Dan 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:21.280 and Tye welcome back to the solid verbal. Boys and girls. 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:23.599 My name is ty hilden Brandt. Joining me is always 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:28.240 over there, this time in beautiful southern California. My man 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.560 Dan Rubinstein, right back where it all started. Sir, how 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:33.080 are you. I'm great. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.800 I'm in the Clawfice West Coast. Ty, Yeah, I am. 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.920 I went from the walk in closet in my apartment. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:41.440 That's right. 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.360 I have a walk in closet to a walking closet 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:47.640 in my parents' house. So I'm sorry to my my parents' clothing. 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:51.520 But hopefully the audio sounds all right. As we get 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:55.440 into April, Q and a slash, a little exercise we have. 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.440 That's what we're doing Dan, as you know, congratulations, Skippy, 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.600 you've got you've got mail on the solid We've had 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:04.800 that sound around since the very beginning. But what we 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:06.880 do in the off season about once a month, we 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:12.200 like to pay homage to those of you who write 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.319 in at sliverbo at gmail dot com, who post on Facebook, 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:21.160 on Twitter, on Instagram, on the subreddit, on Gosh. We're 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.400 the MySpace page, the friends to account, wherever you can 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.959 get a hold of us. We do our best to 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.920 collect all of those questions, put them in a nice 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.680 little Google doc here, which I did not open literally 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:37.120 until about four minutes ago. This work shots. It was 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.080 working all out here. Yeah, as we always do on 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:40.480 the show. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.720 I like that when we put out a call for 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:48.080 questions and say, hey, throw us your college football questions 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.960 or really anything that's on your mind, we start getting 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.559 a bunch of questions in our inbox that are like, hey, 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:57.280 my belly button color is getting kind of weird and 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.920 gunk filled, and at what point should I speak to 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.880 a professional? Also, how much do you see Nebraska improving 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:10.240 on specialties? And I love that that's the case. So 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:14.360 I've set up both a document full of what appears 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.400 to be a lot of life questions and a couple 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:21.160 football ones, and then also an exercise in the realm 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:22.440 of expectations. 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:26.040 The realm of expectations, Why don't we start there? So, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.880 by the way, again, thank you to everyone who wrote 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:33.120 in I'm going through these now again real time, have 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.600 not had much a chance to prepare. There are some 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:40.600 fantastic questions as all. We got six pages of questions here. 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.359 Yeah, we got a lot. There's a bunch that came 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.960 in and not that long a time. And should also 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:50.560 point out the solid baby flying six hours across the country, 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:56.160 surpassed expectations exactly, take offs, landings, no ear issues, slept 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.400 for like three and a half hours, eight smiled at 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:00.799 the flight attendants, which, hey, good. 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.360 Job, buddy. He's better than me. Yeah, way better than you. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.440 So let's start with expectations. You are in your old 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:13.680 old digs here podcasting digs now in California. I am 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:15.920 not at mommy agent's house where it all started for me. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:21.560 But why don't we delve into some expectations so you 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.840 put this together. We had the Marie condo thing last week. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.000 We got questions about that. Seems like that went over 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.880 pretty well. People liked it. Yeah, you want to delve 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:35.120 back into expectations though. Dan a hot topic here in 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.800 the college football offseason. Every time we've ever done an 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.720 offseason show, it seems like we harke him back to 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.800 some form of expectations for the season. That lies ahead. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:46.680 And by the way, we didn't get to a lot 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:50.920 of those Mari Condo items that other were worth giving 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.640 away or sparking joy. I'm particularly upset that I didn't 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:59.560 make a decision about the well worn caricature filled what 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.800 was it the acc at lanth or excuse me, coastal 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.080 shirt with like the character of the giant heads, like 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.160 you know, when the Detroit Pistons won the en Championship, 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.800 you had they're all spinning balls on their hands, just 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:16.040 with the sort of throw back eat success of that division. 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:17.800 I'm sad I didn't make a decision with that, but 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.880 people seem to like that. But as it relates to expectations, 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.680 I went through the Power six conferences. 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:25.760 That's right, tie. 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:31.640 Power six okay, being inclusive, very nice. I seeked that sought, 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:33.520 I think is actually the form of that word. I 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.839 sought out the growers and the lowers, so not growers 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:40.640 and showers, So the teams that grew in twenty eighteen 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.880 and the teams that sort of lowered their their Q 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.279 raiding or what we can expect from this team, and 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:52.120 we saw sort of a lowering of performance. I went 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:55.040 through each each conference and decided which teams fit those 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.880 two things, And I think we should go in and 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:02.000 help to cataract categorize base on the movement of twenty eighteen. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.799 Whether we feel these teams should be classified now given 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.800 how they're currently built. And I'm excluding teams that hired 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.000 new coaches because we just don't have the data points. 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:17.440 So these teams, are they just not a ball team? Sorry, 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.680 it's just it's hard to see a way that you're 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:20.680 you're getting to six? 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:25.760 Are they the annual? Will they won't they five and five? 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.000 Five and six? Playing for eligibility? 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.960 The ross Rachel of college football, like sort of Virginia 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:33.200 Tech was this past year. 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:35.480 Are they are they? Yeah? 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:39.640 Are they perennialble like they're getting a seven? They're they're 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.640 they're at seven. Maybe they'll win eight, maybe they'll win six, 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.159 but they're a pretty healthy seven. Bet Are they a 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:50.120 comfortable well bowl team with you know, you know, some 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.159 years they're going to go six and six, five and seven, 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.560 and that's just a standard deviation. And some years, when 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.200 everything breaks right and the quarterback's better than expected, the 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:02.200 coaches are up and coming growers themselves, maybe they get 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.040 to ten with a couple of big breaks but comfortably eight. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:09.520 So this is this is essentially perception versus reality correct 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:11.240 with some of these programs. So why don't we start 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.920 with US secause I know USC is on here and 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:18.520 so forth. Nine ten eleven plus Yeah, yeah, USC should 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.480 be a ten plus win team that they're the lower 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.440 in the Pac twelve. That would be my perception of 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.760 what USC should be. What they will be, though, I 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.040 think is really the open question. That's a big part 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.279 of the reason why Clay Helton remains ever on the 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.039 hot seat has been the last two years, certainly is 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.919 going to be from day one this season because if 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:43.479 USC doesn't get to like at least nine right, like 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.320 right at that point, it feels like they're falling way 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:47.320 short of what they should be. 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:53.839 Give me your give me your take, tie you say 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.560 they should be a ten plus win team and or 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:57.760 ten plus win program. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.480 Excuse me? So if you. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:03.159 Combine what they've been in the last five or so years, 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.200 which is on the high end of Pac twelve champion, 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.200 on the low end not making a Bowl game, right, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.880 and you look at the talent that they've been able 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.440 to bring in develop, you know, either get drafted or 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:18.600 not get drafted to the NFL coaches available, talent, conference division, whatever. 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:23.280 What is the biggest reason that you see as USC 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:29.360 being ten plus? Anything less than that is disappointing? Is 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:30.840 it a talent thing? Is it that the PAC twelve 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:32.720 is down thing? Is it that they're just so far 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.640 ahead in terms of infrastructure? 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:37.280 Whatever it is? What is it that? 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.920 Because this is something that like, I think I agree with, 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:46.000 but then I keep seeing USC seasons and coaches and 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.760 bad presidents and athletic directors, and like, I don't know 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.240 if USC can ever really consistently get out of its 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:56.600 own way unless they have a high NFL level coach 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:57.840 like they did in Pete Carroll. 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:02.360 Well, it's certainly a consistency thing on some level, you know, 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:07.280 because they constantly get the talent, and perhaps under Clay 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.880 Hilton they haven't been as good at developing that talent 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.120 as they should be, but they still get it, which 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.400 leads me to believe that on some level it's a 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:19.400 coaching thing. How are they not more consistent of a 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.880 program at this point. They've had their struggles along the 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.400 offensive line over the last couple of years. They've had 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.320 some struggles along the defensive line over the last couple 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:30.040 of years. It seems like at any given point in time, 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.240 a certain element of that team is not firing on 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.440 all cylinders. Skill talent does not seem to be an issue. 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.120 They seem to be fine there, But it's the little 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.720 things that they need to be more consistent in that 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:43.640 I think can get them to a higher level. 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:47.320 I am, what are the ratings, the stock ratings whatever, 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.240 bond ratings like standard and Poor's and Moody's and stuff 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.160 like that. Right, you've got it. Maybe this is the 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:57.640 actual theme of the show. We're like upgrading or docking whatever. 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:03.520 Because the show last week tidying up was such a 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.760 big hit, we could right now declare it a mixed 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:11.120 metaphor may and go into investments in April. We could 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.720 In April, we could declare it now, give ourselves enough 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.920 runway to figure it out, and then do a whole 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:19.120 investment theme show sometime in May where we do that 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:20.680 kind of kind of We did. 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.560 A mad Money episode that that got a little out 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.040 of hand, and that's kind of managink we. 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:26.960 Could do better than that, And I've just come up 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.480 with an idea that we can roll with. But to 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:34.199 your point, sure, a rating essentially a trust rating is 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.000 what you're talking about here with USC. 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.040 I have USC in my mind as someday they should 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.960 be a ten plus win program. They have enough advantages 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:49.880 and the conferences not robust enough to consistently challenge them 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:51.120 week in and week out, that they should be a 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.280 ten plus win program. I am downgrading them to nine plus. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:58.160 I am downloading. I am downgrading them to full on good. 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.599 They're gonna mostly lose to teams that are on the 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:06.679 same level and maybe throw in one just definitely disappointing loss. 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:07.439 And why. 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.600 I'm at that point with USC because when I look 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:15.800 at them, I see them as a jym hobbyist entering 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:19.520 local weightlifting competitions. We're like, yeah, you're doing well, and 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.880 maybe you're wearing clothing that you shouldn't, like, you're showing 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:25.120 off guns that aren't fully there, but just know what's 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.520 going on. Know the reality. And USC, to me, with 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:34.439 administrative and coaching hires, it doesn't look like they're fully 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:39.440 dedicated to the ruthlessness needed to get to that ten 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:43.520 plus level. And I don't know why that is, but 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.480 it's hard to look at USC and think this is 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:51.240 a well oiled machine and that winning ten plus games 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:56.560 a year is hard, as everybody outside of like Bama, Clemson, 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:01.480 Ohio State knows, that's a really difficult amount. And I 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.520 see no evidence that USC has put anything in place 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.760 right now over the next three, four or five whatever 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.880 years to say this is where they stand. They're a 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:16.120 ten plus win program. Maybe if there's an overhaul, but 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.800 I don't know. Again, the data point to point to 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.760 right now that says, yeah, they should stumble into ten 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:24.560 wins no matter what. 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.720 All right, so let me go to another team then, yeah, 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.800 with that logic, how do you feel about the Michigan Wolverines. 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.319 I feel a lot better about Michigan because there's a 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:36.320 little bit overlap, right there's a little bit of overlap, 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.360 and I like that the you know included in that 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:42.840 overlap is going like a definite new direction offensively with 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.679 Michigan hiring Josh Gaddis and USC hiring Graham Harrell. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.200 But right now Michigan is at least on an uptick. 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.040 They go from going five and four what was it 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:53.800 in the Big ten two years ago something like that 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:57.240 to eight and one last year. The defense, there's nothing 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.960 about USC that you can point to as being incredible 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:06.320 and for ninety percent of Michigan season, their defense was incredible. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:11.120 They dominated team in a specific facet of the game. 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:16.079 And so with Michigan, with they don't schedule up all 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:17.640 the time. I know Notre Dame is sort of back 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.600 on the schedule, whereas USC has had you know, Texas 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.000 and Stanford early on in the season, and you know 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.800 a number of huge Power five programs, whereas Michigan is 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.640 sort of up and down in terms of what they've scheduled. 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:33.200 Michigan has been excellent at something and there has been 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:37.200 consistent competence with Michigan that I don't see with USC. 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:41.439 So in terms of trends, even with some offensive questions, 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.160 I think you have to put Michigan above USC in 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.600 saying I understand why they're a ten plus win program 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:51.640 right now because there's excellent excellence associated with where they 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:52.360 stand right now. 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.240 Well, and there's a lot that you can fall back on. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.600 In the Michigan case, I agree with you. Jim Harbaugh 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:01.120 is definitively a better coach than Clay Hilton. You put 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.160 the two coaches in a room, compare resumes, no one 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.559 is taking Hilton over Harball. So that's the first thing. 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.600 Second I don't have Michigan at eleven though. Right Well, secondly, 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.120 you've got the defense. As you said, the offense has 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.280 sort of been a work in progress. Jim Harbaugh is 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.880 trying to address that. They've got plenty of talent. That's 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.520 not an issue. Look at their recruiting class this past year. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.120 Sure recruiting class was demonstrably better than USC's, so you 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.920 got that as well. I just feel like Michigan's in 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.160 a much better place and they're going to continue this 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.280 slow ascent up. Perhaps there's a bit of a void 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.840 now with Ryan Day taking over for urban Meyer. I 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.199 don't care how good he is, he's not Urban Meyer. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.360 I think that's an opportunity for Michigan. I feel, as 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.400 you do, a lot better about the Wolverine's going to 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:42.600 do the Trojans at this point. 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.679 I also think, by the way, as for consistency, if 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.120 Clay Helton is fired and Jim Harbaugh decides, see, I'm 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.480 going to take the Lion's job or I don't even 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.920 know what NFL job would be attractive to him, I 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.040 think there is a better chance that Michigan makes the 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.679 right higher to at least flirt with where they've been, 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:01.920 or at least where they were in twenty eighteen, than 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.160 I do about USC doing it, both because of location 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:11.800 and because of the administrative dedication in your. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.040 Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa you who 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:19.080 always argues yeah, the merits of good weather. You're gonna 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.760 tell me that Michigan's a better location than southern California. 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:25.520 It's a better location for attracting excellent coaches. Yes, okay, 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.160 I think I think an excellent coach is more likely 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.640 to take the Michigan job than the USC job. I'm 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:35.240 only comparing those two schools. Yeah, I don't know if 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.480 I buy that. Man, Really, I don't know if I 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:41.080 buy that now. USC still has that glitz and glamour 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:42.640 to it, even though they've been down for a bit. 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.800 At what point are you going to say, ro I 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.400 don't know about the glitz and glamour anymore. What are 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.160 we going to get to that point where you're gonna like, 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:52.880 are you going to be the as we mentioned in 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:56.360 the Mari Condo show, wearing the USC cologne that smells 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.560 like a sweaty Brian Cushing? Are you going to pointing 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:01.480 to peak care I did throw that out and I'm 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.360 still I'm still picking my pints. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:07.360 Of it on my on my clothing. Fair Next team, 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:11.240 Let's stay in the Big Ten. Okay, let's talk about Wisconsin. 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.040 Where are we at with Wisconsin right now? The Alex 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:18.240 Hornybrook thing admittedly came out of thin air for me. Yeah, 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.080 maybe that had been percolating for a while. Apparently it was, 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:26.000 but for him to leave Grant it not the strongest 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:30.360 armed quarterback, maybe not the most accurate, but seem to 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.040 fit that system pretty well. Where are we at with Wisconsin? 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:37.680 Wisconsin's confusing, We're now what he Paul Chris has been 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:42.520 there four years and just hit a pretty huge stumbling 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.240 block after year three, and there are reasons for it, 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.040 with quarterback injuries and injuries all over the field, really 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.720 but not necessarily a Big Ten that is lining up 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.880 huge challengers week in and week out, especially in that division. 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.760 And so I think I'm also downgrading Wisconsin a little bit, 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.960 not fully panicking. They went what eight and five last year? 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.880 Seven to five during the regular season and seven wins 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.560 is certainly departure from where they were, but they won 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:13.800 ten and nine and what eleven and one? I guess 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.240 they went twelve to oh in twenty seventeen, so I 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.680 think they are almost in that nine full on good 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:25.160 team that they're gonna lose to teams that have more talent. 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.280 They're gonna be in those games, But I'm worried about 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:32.160 more BYU type games as we go farther into further 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.560 into the Paul christ era, where they just they look 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.520 pretty good, but they give up three and a half 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.600 really dumb plays. And I don't know if it's a 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:42.960 Jim Leonard thing on defense. I don't know if it's 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.360 a not evolving enough on offense and leaning on their 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.800 sort of power brand too much. But I'm a little 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:55.960 bit worried that they are taking an understandable but disappointing 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:57.000 half step back. 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:57.480 Yeah. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.920 I mean, so that's nine wins with the ability to 0:16:59.920 --> 0:17:02.280 go ten and two with a break and the ability 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:03.560 to go seven. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.640 And five if it's a nightmare again. Yeah, I'm real 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:10.240 curious to see what ends up happening at the quarterback spot. 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.840 It doesn't concern me as much at Wisconsin the way 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.160 it would at other schools because they do have that 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:19.600 power attack that they do rely on, but they get 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.640 Michigan relatively early this year, towards the middle to late 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:27.000 portion of September, which will be a big test for them. 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.480 They're on the road later in the year at Ohio State. 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.600 They're on the road later in the year against a 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.160 team like a Nebraska, who knows what shape they'll be in. 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.480 I'm not sure what to expect out of this Wisconsin 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.399 team now. The schedule isn't terrible, to be honest, I 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.439 think they can navigate this, but there are some questions 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.199 and they do need to improve over where they were 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.520 a year ago. So I think I sort of fall 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.520 in line with you. Around the nine win mark feels 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:54.119 about right to me. 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:59.320 Important to remember that outside of Illinois, each of the 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:03.280 teams in the West you have to upgrade in terms 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:08.400 of where they stand competitively. Northwestern has been a stalwart 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:12.359 of consistency, even with Wisconsin taking a step back. Purdue 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:16.120 for sure has gotten better. Iowa, even though they seem 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.159 to go five and four, four and five whatever in 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:21.600 the Big Ten every year, they's still a tough tough out. 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:25.199 Nebraska's on the upshot and on the upswing, and Minnesota 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.040 is a team that is certainly getting more dangerous, and 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.240 there is a small part of me that's worried that 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:37.800 Wisconsin built up that ten eleven annual win season threshold 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.720 on a foundation of well, a big ten West kind 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.360 of bad. So a pretty good team might look excellent. 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:48.879 All right, final one here, Then we're going to get 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.640 to questions where do we stand on the Auburn Tigers. 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.600 That's a good one. And talk about trying to time 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:59.040 the stock market. Yeah, just when you think you know 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.600 what Auburn's going to do, just when you think they're 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:04.280 a seven win team, they go out and they win 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.879 ten and vice versa. It's a really tough program to 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.520 try engage. We talked about it on the Tidying Up Show. 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:17.720 Our Gus mals on Hourglass still sparks Joy, I think 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.640 for both of us. Yeah, trying to figure this thing out. 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.440 But where are we at with Auburn now? Auburn is 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:28.240 a like if you were going to invest in Auburn football, 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.400 you have to know what you know. You could buy 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.400 it at thirty eighty five a share and oh wow, 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:37.240 it's up to nine dollars right now, Like, oh it's 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.119 down to seventy six cents. 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.840 What is happening Auburn is it's as if Enron were 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.359 going through all of their issues and then right as 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.800 they're going bankrupt, everybody's going to jail, they discover a 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:51.040 clean renewable energy source to power everything on the cheap. 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:52.760 Like what who are you? Auburn? 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:56.760 Auburn should be a ten plus win program. And I 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.960 say that knowing that they're in the SEC West, which 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.320 is certainly in most years a difficult division to navigate. 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:07.360 But given their brand and that they've been in and 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:13.159 won national championships within the last decade, I am thinking 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:17.359 that they are ten plus with Gus Malson and should 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.280 be ten plus with Gus Malson given his offensive reputation, 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.240 considering who they've developed on defense, and considering that they're 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.119 one of what like two and a half programs that 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.639 can challenge Alabama annually that should be able to challenge 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:34.600 Alabama annually. So I am looking at them as ten 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:39.240 plus with a whole bunch of volatility. And I know 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.040 that sort of gives them two that assigns them to 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.000 sort of expectation points. But I don't know how you 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.040 can do anything different with Auburn. 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:52.240 I think I'm in agreement with you there. 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.760 I'm much more confident in staking a claim that Auburn 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:57.399 should be that than usc should be that. 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.720 I think I agree with that. Yeah, I mean, where 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.440 do you stand on them? Eight and five? Last year 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:07.840 three and five in conference did not go according to plans. 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:10.080 I think we're both higher on Auburn than they ended 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:13.000 up finishing throughout the course of the year. Now they 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:15.919 lose Stidham and I've got questions, But this is the 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:18.120 kind of year where they win ten games, isn't it. 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.520 It seems like it's every other year with the Auburn shows. 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.880 So I think I'm in agreement with you. By the way, 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:27.800 this sparked not just joy, but joy the idea of 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:30.840 the show that we're going to do in May with investing, 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:32.240 I have a great idea for how we're going to 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.560 run this thing. I will lean on Jody with an 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:38.480 eye heavily. Okay, So yeah, I'm in I'm in agreement 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:40.960 with you. Generally speaking, Auburn's still got a ton of 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.080 talent during a tough side of the SEC though. That's 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:45.040 that's what makes this whole thing harder. That's sort of 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:48.119