WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Moving Forward 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:07.920 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:17.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:22.000 screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:26.680 Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:32.440 and Nicky Spagnola and this time for another edition of 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:38.839 mix Shots on a Thursday. Here inside the SWBC podcast 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:42.320 studio at Ford Center at the Star in Fresco, Bill 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:47.640 Jones with Mickey Spagnola wearing his cowboy blue today. That's 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:52.200 royal blue. It's kind of Kansas City boy. And Everson 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:58.800 Walls joins us. Hello, Everson, Hello Bill. How are you doing, sir? 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.160 Doing very well? Thank you? And ever since we missed 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.600 you yesterday? What did I What did I miss while 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:06.960 I was gone? We had a few things to talk 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.479 about yesterday. We've got more of the same and then 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.479 some to talk about today. To set the scene here, 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:17.040 Mickey just came from the practice field where he was 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.000 listening to some of the interviews post practice interviews that 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.880 are going on right now. Marie, Marie Cooper, Okay, we 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:28.679 need a wireless a wireless Mike. Yeah, put it down 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:30.880 on the little stand and listen to what Dak has 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.720 to say here and wherever whenever he shows us. So 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:35.720 Dak's about to talk to the media, he was supposed to. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.240 This is his day. I don't know what time, if 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.840 he comes right away or if he showers first, so 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.480 he's usually the last guy. Okay, all right, So we 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.080 what have you heard so far from anybody as anyone 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.600 had any play? What does the coach say? What's coach 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:56.160 McCarthy talking about? Did he explain himself? Did he talk 0:01:56.200 --> 0:02:02.880 about the untimeliness of this relie? What was it? Or 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:06.920 it might or it might have been very timely by 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:11.000 the way, might have been. Yeah, ye, bring us up 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:13.400 to speak, Micky, what can you well? And we should 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.120 point out that's what has happened, as many of you 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.600 probably know by now, what has happened since we last 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:24.480 convened yesterday, is that Jalen Smith apparently has found a 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:28.160 new NFL home very quickly, right, Mickey, Yes, he has. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.200 Looks like he's agreed to a one year deal with 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.440 the Green Bay Packers, and I would imagine from my 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.080 financial standpoint, it doesn't have to be for all that much, 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:41.320 since the Cowboys have to honor his seven point two 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:46.120 million dollars base salary. So I would imagine the veteran 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.760 minimum since it happened so fast that it didn't have 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:52.240 to be much of a negotiation, right, especially the veteran 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:57.600 minimum for now just what thirteen games? You don't have 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.760 to pay for the whole season too, by the way. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:04.240 So yeah, so that took place, and uh, you know, 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:09.519 Mike McCarthy today did not want to talk anything more 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:13.040 about it. Um, you know, and I'm sure they were 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.839 just like, yeah, whatever, you know, good, good for him, 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.040 he was able to find a job or whatever. Uh 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:22.919 so he was pretty mum on that. Yesterday, Everson said, 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.160 I mean Everson, he said that there were multiple factors 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:33.440 on why they allowed decided to release Jalen Smith, and 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:35.720 he didn't want to get into the factors. So that 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.960 left it fair game for us to fill in the 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:42.480 factors the best we thought we could. Let's go, let's 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.840 let's go, let's let's just throw stuff up in the 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:49.280 air and let's see what sticks. How about it. Let's go, 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:53.160 let's start right. Well, we we did it yesterday and 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.160 um and you should have been listening, by the way, Uh, 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.920 he was in transit all. You know that they called 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:06.480 there's a thing called recordings by the way, right, yes so, 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.960 and I don't think called Cowboys dot Com. Yes media, 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.920 click on media and right there you go. But I 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:18.440 think that you know, the the you know, quick review 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.960 of it was number one. I think play on the 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:29.080 field number two. They wanted to restructure his contract, especially 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:33.440 next year where he had a injury guarantee for nine 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:38.080 point two million against injury, meaning if he got injured 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.800 at any point this year, they would be and it 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:45.040 carried over and he wasn't good to go by the 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.640 fifth day of the league year, he was guaranteed that 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.599 base salary, and I think that's what they wanted to 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:54.160 restructure and not take that chance. And I think he denied. 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:58.279 And you know, one thing I think we've learned when 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:03.320 it comes down to dollars and cents with the Joneses, Um, 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.680 that's a pretty big deal. Uh. And then I think 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.120 the other thing they looked at is, you know, with 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:15.800 Kean O'Neill coming back, uh, and probably Michael Parsons playing 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.560 more linebacker, you know, the way he was playing and 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.240 how they were using him. He was going to be 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:26.760 linebacker four behind Layton Vanderish so and in some people's mind, 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.039 they might have wind up being linebacker. Linebacker five behind 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.880 you Brille Cox too right, and and and then the 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.320 other six behind Louke Gifford, and then the other thing. 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.240 The other thing ever said that, I think they were 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.560 looking at and Mike kept saying, big picture. Well, the 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.800 big picture is they've got about a half dozen guys 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.640 that will be returning or they want to return this 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.760 fifty three man roster. Uh. And there was going to 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:55.440 be some roster shaving to make room for those guys. Uh. 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:59.479 So you know, if you're not you know, playing or 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:03.120 starting in Europe, not doing much special teams, you might 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.640 be the one to eventually go anyway. So I think 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:11.400 they just made the decision after a personnel meeting on Tuesday, that, 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.240 you know what, it was time to move on. You know, 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:21.039 when you look at all the breadcrumbs that were left 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:25.000 by the organization, Cowboys organization, I think we kind of 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.839 saw this coming, but maybe not in this timely fashion. 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.120 The draft itself, we drafted how many linebackers guys. I 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:37.400 mean that should have let all the starting linebackers those 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:41.480 that are here know, hey, we have some young talent 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:46.600 here that is not only good but they are multi talented. 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.000 You've got you know, we talked about having these uh 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.839 hybrid type of players. You see a Jabril Cox. For 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.840 some reason, that's the first person I thought about when 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.640 they when I heard they let go of Jalen and 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:03.840 so along with some of the video that was sent 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:09.560 to me by some secret spy, that just really exhibited 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:15.240 just how incompetence at times that Jayden Smith was and 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.240 they were. It was glaring in competence. It wasn't just 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.560 make a mistake here and there amongst making great plays. 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.920 You saw more mistakes than you saw plays made. And 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.200 that's not a thing that you want from a player 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:35.400 that you have already paid this super contract. And I 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:39.400 have to say, guys, did we sign him to too 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.800 much too soon? I know, spags, you're going to talk 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:46.240 about what the market dictates, and and you know what, 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.520 someone else could have swooped him up. And they saw 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:51.880 him on the uptick as opposed that we've seen him. 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.640 We're seeing him now on the downtick. You're gonna say 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:59.000 that that's what the market bared. But even when they 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.560 signed him, I was very surprised that it was for 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:06.600 so much and so soon. Well, he had the one 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.080 good year, and I think they said, okay, it would 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:15.120 be behoove us to sign him early and probably for 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.240 a lesser amount than if they waited another year or 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:22.480 two when he really uh you know, continued on that track. 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:28.720 Unfortunately that didn't happen. And the other thing that, as 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.720 we pointed out yesterday, you know, everybody talks about his 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.240 base salary this year, what they don't have to pay 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.280 next year, but they forget to point out that there's 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.560 going to be six point eight million dollars in dead 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.600 money going into the cap that the Cowboys have to 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:46.680 account to for next year. And then the other thing, 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.840 and Everson, you probably can give us a kind of 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.280 a you know, a different view on this than we 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.720 might have. You know, I heard the talk today about 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.840 how surprised all the players were and how this was 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.959 going to affect the locker room, and you know, what's 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.719 going to happen in practice without the team one of 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:10.760 the team leaders there. And my point was is, I 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.520 don't think it's going to affect it one bit. And 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.439 if anybody watched a part of practice that we watched yesterday, 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:21.240 I mean today there was no one out there morning. Okay, 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:27.920 they were having a very spirited uh practice high energy uh. 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:34.480 And so no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.040 no no, I'm not saying I'm not saying that. I'm 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:41.240 just saying I think from a players standpoint, I gotta 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.240 worry about myself, right, I gotta make sure that I 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.760 go out there and practice well. And next guy up's 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.400 got to go out and say, Okay, I got an opportunity. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.440 You can't sit there and go, oh, what are they doing? 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:56.120 My good buddy, Jalen's gone. I just don't think that 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.880 happens in this transient business that is the NFL, is 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.880 especially now right in free agency. So I don't know. 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:05.880 If you got a lot of young guys out there 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:10.600 that pretty much understand that where this opportunity leads them, 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.960 they might look at this as Okay, guys, this is 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.839 just the process. This is not a warning shot to 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:24.320 players who aren't playing well. This is the team committing 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.920 to going forward with the best they can go forward with. 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.640 I mean, I don't know how broken up the locker 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.520 room can be. You and I Spags have always joked 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.280 about Eugene Lockhart and I always trying to give him 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.840 some props on making all the tackles that he made, 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:45.440 and you know, Jalen was always the perfect example of that. 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.360 You can make those tackles, but with their ten and 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.120 fifteen yards down the field after you've chased them down 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:55.280 because you hit the wrong gap. You know, your hustle 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:59.000 is admirable, but you get you get a minus on 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.880 that play because he still got away from you. He 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.800 still came through your hole. So that happened a lot 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:11.200 with Jalen, and it continued throughout this season. We're still 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:15.880 giving up a lot of points. Were still decent against 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:17.880 the run, but we could be even better when you 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:22.000 take a look at some of the glaring mistakes that Jayleen. 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.640 I'm not putting it all on Jalen, trust me, I'm 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:28.040 not doing that. But what they have not seen is 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.960 not just having seen an improvement from him. They've seen 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.560 a decline from not just his his play, but it 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.400 seems like his athletic ability. Yeah no, and I think 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.640 you're right. And you know, the guys were asked about 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.120 it yesterday, and you know, everybody kind of you know, 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:48.400 said the right thing. And but I thought, I thought 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.800 what Layton vander esh talked about more so than his 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:57.080 ability or lack of ability or Layton came down on 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:01.359 people kind of making fun of him on social media 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.120 on the fact that yeah, it was about time they 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.320 got rid of him da And I just want you 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:11.880 to listen to what Leyton had to say about, you know, 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:15.640 guys getting cut, guys losing their jobs, and he turned 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:19.080 it more into hey, this is what happens to people 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.960 in our league. What bugs me most about it is 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.760 when people that are on the outside fans whatever it 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.679 may be, they want to say, oh, like, someone deserves 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.360 this or someone deserves that everything. They don't realize that 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.960 this is literally like our livelihoods. We literally could get 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:37.960 up and traded the next morning, like the next day, 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.920 we could be in fifty different freaking states. So people 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:42.720 need to realize that. People needn't realize that what they're 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.319 saying is literally just like nonsense. And I think that's 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:47.920 a big problem in the world today. And then you 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.600 cut that out because I mean, we're literally talking about like, 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:52.720 we don't go talking about someone else's job, so why 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.600 are they talking about our jobs. It's super frustrating, it's annoying. 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:02.400 I think it's classless. I got a lot of strong 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.520 words for it, because I know a lot of guys 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.240 are on the league. Deal with it. We got families. 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:08.920 We might be in one area. You got dudes that 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:10.959 have been playing for a team for eight years, they 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:12.760 get traded. They got family, they got kids that have 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.480 been there for that long. And think about that before 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.559 you say something like, oh, this guy deserves this, but 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:21.760 this guy deserves that. We don't go saying oh, we 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.520 aren't in your business, like how much you guys are 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:27.199 getting paid, or or what's your boss saying? Or this 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.960 than that, and about anybody else's jobs. We aren't doing that. 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.000 This is our lovelihood, this is our job. We get 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:39.000 traded tomorrow, we get cut tomorrow. Yeah, so people need 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:40.559 to realize what they're saying on social media because I 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:45.560 think it's ridiculous. So there you go kind of a 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:51.200 different point of view on this stuff. Yeah, I like 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.679 that because of course, you know, I've gone through it, 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.439 and hey, you can look at a lot of different occupations. 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.880 I mean even you guys man when you're talking about 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:02.600 the media. Hell, Bill, how many jobs have you had? 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:08.680 About twenty five and not all by his own choice? 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:14.320 Right back to my points, So you know I've gone 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.640 through with myself facts you've been from the hot water. 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:22.040 You know you've heard You've heard how people talk about Mickey. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.880 I mean the people he works with over those radio stations, 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:30.160 what they say about Mickey. Yeah, so, I mean, and 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.840 I do like the angle that vandersch. I'm gonna mean 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:37.440 to call it an angle, but uh, he's white. You know, 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.680 stuff happens, man, We are aware of that. And I 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.080 think what he's saying is, Okay, stuff does happens, but 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.680 have a little bit more empathy. I think that's what 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.600 he's saying. And let's let me say this, guys. I 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.880 know I sound like an old food but you just 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:59.880 cannot let social media determine your outlook on anything, man, 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:04.640 if it's coming from a negative standpoint. I see athletes 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:09.040 now reading social media, reading these comments from people they 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.680 have never met, the people that don't even know them, 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.720 and it affects them and it deals with their mental 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.520 capacity in some way in a negative way. We kind 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.760 of had that going spags before you got there. I 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:26.600 always tell people this whole internet thing and and people 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.880 in the locker room thing going crazy and media just 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.200 being a little underhanded. That started to me in the 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:37.320 nineteen eighties with Gary Myers. Uh, it was Jim dent 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:45.440 U Skip Skip Bayliss. The locker room became under siege 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:52.080 with with with spies and snitches and things of that nature. Uh. 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.040 Jim then hiding around the corner of the locker room 0:15:55.080 --> 0:16:00.360 trying to peek in on on players conversations, private converence, sation, 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.920 Jerry or and all of a sudden, this this whole thing, 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:07.800 Oh man, Jack, I mean what about the guy hernandez 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:09.640 on It was on Channel thirty three. It was just 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.440 it was it became this. You remember, you remember that 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:17.160 I got crazy. So now here we are, you know, 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.440 the Jerry and these guys come up, Jimmy comes up. 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:23.480 Everything just so blown out. Everything becomes a circus now. 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.040 And we were still that was our internet thing, that 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.000 was our social media stuff going on at that time. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:33.480 We were still somehow able to block that stuff out because, 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.480 first of all, you can't give credence to someone who 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:40.040 doesn't know what the hell they're talking about. And so 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:45.120 Vandersh needs to understand that what you hear out there 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.760 is nothing but white noise, you know, don't don't Yes, 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.680 yes people, yes, people are glad. They want to say 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.000 glad that he's gone. They're saying that they didn't think 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.680 he was that good and they left to their opinions, 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.640 and that is great, but you can't let that determine 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:05.080 what your outlook all is on America's self or your 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.760 all your Cowboys sports fans. These are guys that probably 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.399 not even sports fans, and probably guys they're not probably 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.439 not even American, they probably don't even live here, probably 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:19.879 sometimes got this all this going on. Yeah, so you 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.640 don't know what's going on. I hate that that hurts 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.760 him like that because he's that's that's his buddy, that's 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.920 his friend. He knows Jayla's has family, and I really 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.640 eympathize with what he's saying and I applaud him for that. 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.480 But man, that's just life in the NFL. And and 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.639 don't all that other stuff that's going on, all that 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:39.560 media stuff that's going on, not media stuff, but all 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.560 the Internet stuff and the comments and all that. Stay 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.520 away from that. Man, don't even read that crap because 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.800 it has no value to what the Dallas Cowboys are 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.399 doing and to Jayla's life itself. So let me give 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.600 you one example before we have to hit a break 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:59.600 care of what happens even in the newspaper business. So 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.840 nineteen ninety one, you guys remember when the Dallas Times 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:06.560 Herald went out of business and we found out the 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:12.200 morning of the Cowboys game at Texas Stadium against the Saints, 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:17.040 and it was basically, this is our last edition. We're 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.159 going out of business. We've been bought out by the 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:24.440 Dallas Time Morning News. And so basically we did our jobs. 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.520 After the game, we hung out in the locker room 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:32.440 a little longer than normal just because we didn't know 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.680 what was next in our lives. Right, what's going to happen? 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.720 No place to go, no place to go, and so 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.040 we waited till we waited till Jimmy came out of 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.200 the coaches locker room, right and we didn't know if 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.040 he knew, but he did know. They told him what happened, 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.280 and so he looked at us and he gives us 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:54.320 this kind of cheapest grin and he goes, well, whatever, 0:18:55.680 --> 0:19:02.400 now you know what coaches feel like when they get fired. 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.560 And he's got some nerves. I know, look and I 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:09.520 fire the kicker because he has Jimmie's eyes. Come on, man. 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.560 That was his way, that was his way of making 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.240 some common sense out of it like, Okay, it happens 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.440 in other businesses. You lose your job. 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Visit 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:57.119 Dallas Cowboys dot com Slash United for details and to 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:01.560 join today. All right, clearing up one more thing on 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.359 Jalen here as far as it being a quote unquote 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.920 money move, and because what we talked about earlier about 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:13.840 fifth day of the new year next year, which would 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:17.200 be in March, his contract would become guaranteed for next year. 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:21.320 His salary for next year was nine nine point two million, 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:25.360 all right, the cap charge that the Cowboys oh next 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:27.560 year on the cap is six point eight million for 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.400 the dead money. For the dead money, and so basically 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:32.719 you're looking at a difference of two point four million 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:35.360 dollars right there. So you don't have him and you're 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:39.360 paying your cap charge six point eight million, whereas and 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:43.800 so I look at it that way, that that this 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:49.120 was this was they have better players to play right now, 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:53.160 it's a it's a it's how was he playing more 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:56.000 than a than a money move because you're basically it's 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.560 two point four million dollars difference is all it is. 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:03.440 And I and I think from their standpoint, chances were 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:06.879 the way he was playing now that probably wasn't going 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:10.560 to make the team. Right So, but you know, and 0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:14.600 and and and had he had some sort of surgery, 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:16.760 like a risk surgery like he had this past year, 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:19.480 he couldn't pass a physical on the fifth day, then 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:21.840 you're on the hook for nine point two million instead 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:23.520 of the six point eight million. And that's where a 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.120 trust factor comes in. Also, by the way, you got 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:28.359 to cover yourself. So it's a two point four million 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:33.680 dollars difference exactly. And so when you look at where 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:36.840 they're trying to go right now, it's two stags. You're 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:42.760 they don't see themselves getting better defensively with him going forward. 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:47.040 You know, right right he was hurting them as a defense, 0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:50.359 which you know when they're trying to make moves. And 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:53.320 now the pressure is on, they see how good they are. Uh, 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.520 you know, the tough decisions have to be made. I'm 0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.280 sure that's kind of how it came down. But before 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:00.960 you got to move on to that, and once again 0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:04.679 I missed a lot of yesterday. Oh so what was 0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:09.879 coach's explanation? What did he even talk about the timeliness 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:11.640 of it? I mean, I never did hear you, guy. 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:16.440 It was more that through four games where you see 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:19.159 this defense is right now after four games, this was 0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:20.960 the time to do it, and what and what our 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.199 and what our system was and it was more of 0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:28.000