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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio, Let's make way for Dan Orlovsky ESPN Football Analysts.

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Speaker 1: You can see him on NFL Live Monday through Friday

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Speaker 1: at four Eastern with host Laura Rutledge, Mena Kimes, Marcus Spears,

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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter, and of course Dano who joins us. Now,

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Speaker 1: who do you think Aaron Rodgers is talking about there?

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Speaker 1: From what I've heard, I think it's Jermichael Finley, who

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Speaker 1: kind of, you know, came out and said that he

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Speaker 1: didn't care about football and Jordan Love would be starting

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Speaker 1: by week five or something like that. You know, I

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Speaker 1: think Aaron knows, and we all know there's always narratives

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Speaker 1: that are incorrect. I think a lot of us in

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Speaker 1: the media after Week one, we're surprised by how the

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Speaker 1: game went. We're surprised that the Saints beat up on

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Speaker 1: Green Bay so bad. But I also think a lot

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Speaker 1: of us were like, it's gonna be okay, there's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be an overreaction that the season's over. We were

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Speaker 1: just surprised how the game went. But I do believe

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Speaker 1: he's directly talking to Jamichael Finley, and he's got a

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Speaker 1: right to feel that way. I finily's going to say

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Speaker 1: those comments about them. But I think people overreacted to

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Speaker 1: week one. I think they've overreacted to Week two. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they beat the Lions at Lambo. Okay, they should beat

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Speaker 1: the Lions at Lamboons quarterback, no offense. I got a

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Speaker 1: Lion shirt on. Um. Yeah, I said this yesterday. Um,

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Speaker 1: they did what they should. But I'm also not going

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Speaker 1: to throw up my arms and say this is going

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Speaker 1: to be the greatest offense we've ever seen. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Lions defense in week one gave three d gave

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Speaker 1: up three hundred yards to Jimmy Garoppolo. Go watch Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo to play against the Eagles defense in Week two.

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Speaker 1: Very different performance. So and also it took two remarkable

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Speaker 1: throws for them to kind of get into some better

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Speaker 1: rhythm offensively, the ball to Davante Adams and then the

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Speaker 1: touchdown a Tonyon. So you know, while while they performed better,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't flawless. There were some struggles still with their

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Speaker 1: offensive lines, second offensive line unit that they've played in

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Speaker 1: two games. So it wasn't you know, this has cured everything.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a saying winning cures everything off, and

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Speaker 1: look at it, winning covers everything them. Winning was a

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Speaker 1: good deal, but it still covered up some things that

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Speaker 1: they've got to progress on and understanding. It's fifteen weeks

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Speaker 1: left of the season. Which game will tell you more

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Speaker 1: about the two teams playing the Packers and the Niners,

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Speaker 1: Rams and the Buccaneers. Probably the Rams and Buccaneers. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've got I felt three or four weeks ago that

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Speaker 1: the Bucks had a legit chance to make a run

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Speaker 1: at seventeen and Oz and I thought if they got

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Speaker 1: past weeks three and week four because they played the

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Speaker 1: Rams and then the pay the Patriots, that they would

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Speaker 1: have a real chance. The issue was going into the

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Speaker 1: season where they're going to stay as healthy as they

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Speaker 1: did last year. The healthiest team in football last year.

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Speaker 1: Where the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They're not right now, and

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Speaker 1: I think think the injuries on defense are starting to

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Speaker 1: show itself. But also Dan like, if you watch this

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Speaker 1: team play last year, just from a quarterbacks perspective, defensively,

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Speaker 1: it was so hard to get completions at times, and

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks had to play in such direct you just felt

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Speaker 1: the defensive line, maybe not the sacks, you just felt them,

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Speaker 1: and it's not showing up through two weeks. Defensively, quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are getting completions at an alarming rate. They're able to

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Speaker 1: move the football really well. They're not playing under durest,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. And I think that, you know, if

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Speaker 1: if the Rant, if the Bucks are going to go

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Speaker 1: really be the team offensively, they're gonna be lights out,

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Speaker 1: but really be the team that I believe should be

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Speaker 1: the bona fide team to beat in the NFC. Their

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Speaker 1: defense has got to start playing with that kind of

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Speaker 1: impact or attitude that they did last year. Well what

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Speaker 1: happened after twelve games they were seven and five. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean switched switched schematically, Yeah, I mean they switched

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Speaker 1: scheme wise offensively big time. You know, they obviously went

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Speaker 1: to stuff that Tom was way more comfortable of. The

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Speaker 1: whole foundation of the offense went, we're gonna keep twelve clean.

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Speaker 1: We don't care if that means we'll only get three

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Speaker 1: guys out in the past concept, We're gonna keep him.

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Speaker 1: He's good enough. And that that is still very much

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Speaker 1: so the identity of their offense. I think the thing

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Speaker 1: the season was Vita Vea got back and healthy. That's

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Speaker 1: a big part. Their corners played way more disciplined. You know,

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Speaker 1: early on in the year. Last year they were an

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Speaker 1: aggressive front, aggressive back end. You know, they'd be jumpy

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Speaker 1: It also helped them a little bit, but they played

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Speaker 1: more disciplined and more kind of you hear the phrase

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Speaker 1: They played a little bit more of complimentary aspect of that.

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Speaker 1: They're just not getting hands on guys at the line

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Speaker 1: like overly alarmed by it, but it's still you watch

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Speaker 1: the chape and you go that this doesn't look like

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Speaker 1: the same defense the back half of last year. I

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Speaker 1: was wondering about Kansas City. As we move forward this

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Speaker 1: their kryptonite is you run the football. I think the

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Speaker 1: Browns running the football, Baltimore running the football, the Titans

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Speaker 1: running the football. It feels like that's a team that

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Speaker 1: to the AFC title game. Your thoughts about them, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've got to be able to run the football explosively.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not. I mean, think about the

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Speaker 1: Monday night football game. They have forty nine snaps. The

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Speaker 1: Chiefs did offensively, they still still scored thirty five or

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Speaker 1: off with a team that ran the football incredibly well

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Speaker 1: by Baltimore. So yes, the philosophically, but you have to

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Speaker 1: be explosive. It can't just be this ball control offense.

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Speaker 1: Because again they scored twenty eight and forty nine plays.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's an remarkable efficiency. So you want to

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Speaker 1: have that philosophy of got you gotta score and control,

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Speaker 1: much as possible. And you have to ask yourself, well,

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Speaker 1: what are the teams that actually can do that? Do?

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Speaker 1: I think Tennessee can be explosive while running the football.

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Speaker 1: A J. Brown's got to catch the ball a little

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Speaker 1: the ability to do that, especially if OBJ gets healthy.

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Speaker 1: There really, and I was talking about this on NFL

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Speaker 1: think are bona fide Super Bowl contenders on both sides

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Speaker 1: of the conferences. I feel like the number one question

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Speaker 1: they got a chance to still because their defense, Dan

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Speaker 1: They've for three years. They've been bad against the run,

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Speaker 1: but they're they're predicated upon getting a turnover, getting a takeaway,

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Speaker 1: getting get back to Patrick Mahomes and then kind of

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Speaker 1: the avalanche comes. So yes, it is a fair question.

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Speaker 1: To beat them, you got to run the ball and

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Speaker 1: be explosive. Not a ton of teams can do it.

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Speaker 1: But also you can't get that one or two turnover

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Speaker 1: to kind of swing the game. Dan Orlovsky, ESPN Football Analysts.

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Speaker 1: You can see him on NFL Live Monday through Friday.

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Speaker 1: They started to four Eastern. You had to eventually gear

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Speaker 1: yourself to be a backup quarterback in your mind that

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. You go in wanting to be a

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Speaker 1: talk about could Cam Newton be a backup quarterback? Or

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Speaker 1: How do you not convince yourself? Well, maybe you do,

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Speaker 1: Like how do you get to the point where you go,

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Speaker 1: I'm embracing being a backup? How hard was that? It's

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Speaker 1: a great question, incredibly hard because to your a point

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Speaker 1: for you know, twenty years or so twenty plus years

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Speaker 1: You know? Really in the off season after twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is the NFL is gonna tell

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Speaker 1: I wasn't. Financially They said, you know, you are a backup.

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Speaker 1: Your mindset has to switch from how do I play

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Speaker 1: You know? And the reality? And this is the thought

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Speaker 1: process I had. Dan, was fifty three jobs on every team, right,

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Speaker 1: very it was very likely that I was not going

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Speaker 1: much more important than making sure that I know the

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Speaker 1: game planner that I'm ready to play. And that's one

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Speaker 1: with people all the time when they talk about backup quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: ready to go play. No, it's not, because the likelihood

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Speaker 1: you've got to really switch to the servant mindset, so

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Speaker 1: of different areas. PAULI, do you have all the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: Joey Harrington, Matt Schaub, Mike Lennon, Josh Freeman, and Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 1: We leave out anybody, so Joey Harrington? Uh, John Kittna

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Speaker 1: Did you say Kittna? No? Kittna was in there, shabby? Um?

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Speaker 1: Which one which one bothers you the most? Which nowadays

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Speaker 1: The one that bothers me the most is Josh Freeman.

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Speaker 1: You know that I couldn't. I couldn't figure out a

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Speaker 1: the fans, Joel embiid doc rivers, I just I don't

426
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Speaker 1: see that happening. The question is where does he go?

427
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 1: And I thought Sacramento Houston would be two places like

428
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: he almost needs to be in a situation where these

429
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Speaker 1: aren't high profile games, important games, like he almost has

430
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:19,479
Speaker 1: to rEFInd himself. I don't know if Portland is going

431
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: to be a place, And I thought all along Portland

432
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: would be the place that they might trade for him.

433
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: But you know, does Dame Lillard want to play with him?

434
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: Does Philly wants CJ McCollum. Philly wants Dame Lillard, which yeah,

435
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 1: but I would not be making that trade CJ McCollum. Okay, Houston.

436
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: I thought that's where he was going, and that's a

437
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: young team. I don't know, and Ben's not old? What

438
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: is he twenty five? So you can bring him in here,

439
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: but what role does he play? Is anybody else truly

440
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: interested in Ben Simmons? And the fact that Philadelphia is

441
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: not interested would make me so to shy away and

442
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: go they don't want him, but they want you to

443
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: want him. Why is that? That doesn't make any sense?

444
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: But Daryl Morey seems to pull off these deals and

445
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: not afraid to swing for the fences. But I also

446
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: think you need to understand how far the fence is

447
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: you can swing for the fences. You might have warning

448
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: track power when it comes to Ben Simmons, and that

449
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: would be the big concern. You're going to have to

450
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: take less for Ben Simmons because you have shined the

451
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: spotlight on his flaws. He doesn't want to shoot free

452
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: throws and he doesn't want to shoot, can't shoot, but

453
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: he does other things well. He needs to find a place,

454
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: just like Draymond Green is with Golden State. In fact,

455
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: I thought that would be a great person to be

456
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Speaker 1: able to replace Draymond Green and then maybe give Philadelphia

457
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: a different look with Draymond Green. But you know, Draymond

458
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: Green can shoot threes, but he doesn't go out there

459
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 1: needing to shoot. He does other things for you. He's

460
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: a rebounder, real good defender, tough guy, instigator, And maybe

461
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: you get an older version of Ben Simmons and this

462
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: way Golden State. Golden State has got a lot of

463
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Speaker 1: young players there. I thought that that might be a

464
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: nice mix and just by watching Steph Curry and Klay

465
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: Thompson shoot, you're gonna get better and maybe they could

466
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Speaker 1: actually help him. Steve Kerr is one of the great

467
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Speaker 1: shooters of all time. You have three of the greatest

468
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Speaker 1: shooters of all time on the same team, and I

469
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: take away that pressure that oh my god, he's got

470
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Speaker 1: to go to the free throw line. Oh my god,

471
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna take it three. He just needs he'd need

472
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: to be a really good defender, handle the ball, distribute,

473
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Speaker 1: those would be things that he would do well. No

474
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Speaker 1: one ever said, boy, Magic Johnson can't shoot. Magic never

475
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: had a jumper. But Magic was aggressive on offense. And

476
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: that's the difference. Ben Simmons is not aggressive. He doesn't

477
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: want to go to the free throw line. Magic would

478
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: take it to the hoop. But he had a set shot.

479
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: You know, there wasn't anything that was magical about his

480
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: jump shot. But he did other things really well. But

481
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: Ben is a better defender, probably as good, if not better, rebounder.

482
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: But it just Magic had the confidence the command. Ben

483
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: doesn't have a confidence. Magic comes down the floor and

484
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know who's getting it. Somebody's getting it,

485
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna look, I'm gonna embarrass somebody here. And Ben

486
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: doesn't do that. Ben is like, uh, let me defer,

487
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: let me defer. And you can't play that position like that. Yeah, See,

488
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: I think it hurts Ben Simmons a lot too, at

489
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: least the perception of the player that he is, that

490
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: he's playing in this era of people regularly taking, you know,

491
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: forty five foot three pointers and it's no big deal

492
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: where and you can't hit a free throw, Dude, you're

493
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: gonna pass up a dunk. And meanwhile, Damian Lillard's shooting

494
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: from the other side of the stadium, Like, dude, what

495
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: he's got to work on shooting free throws because if

496
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: you shoot free throws, then you can be aggressive going

497
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: to the hoop. But you're shooting sixty one percent. You

498
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: can't shoot sixty one percent having the ball in your

499
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: hands all the time and latent games you don't want

500
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: the ball. I can guard you at the end of

501
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: a game because I know you don't want to shoot.

502
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: And when you become a negative at the end of

503
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: a game, you know, that's tough to win championships with

504
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: one of your two best players. You're a max contract

505
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: guy and you can't shoot. Yeah, do you think Simmons

506
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: and his people are trying to pull the same move

507
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: that James Harden did a year ago? But they don't

508
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: have thirty three and ten and eight to go with it.

509
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: James Harden was. He could do everything. Well, yeah, defense,

510
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: who cares? But James Harden was as elite as it gets.

511
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: When he pushed for a trade. I just have to

512
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: find a place where he can regain his confidence. And

513
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly. I thought he should have played

514
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: for the Australian Olympic team. Play with people you know,

515
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: get confidence and therefore you can He's in his own

516
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 1: head and that's we've seen athletes. Once they get in,

517
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: it's really hard to get out. But if I'm Philadelphia,

518
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: I know you don't want him. The question is what

519
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: are we willing to take for him? What can you get?

520
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: How much value does he have? I think he has

521
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: a lot of value. But I would go back and

522
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: have him watch that Utah game when he scored I

523
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: think forty two points when Joe l Embiid was out.

524
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: I would have Ben go back and say, who is

525
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: that guy? And why can't you be that guy? But

526
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: is he broken? It's close, it's close, But I don't

527
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: think he comes back to Philadelphia. I don't think you

528
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: can have him back. Lawrence in Texas joins us, Hey, Lawrence,

529
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? No, you're talking about Ben Simmons.

530
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: I'm called from San Antonio. Um, and I know I

531
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: haven't heard your comment about what, but I've I've heard

532
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: that the Spurs are in the mix for Ben Simmons. Um.

533
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: I sat, it's going to be a perfect fit for him.

534
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: And you're talking about free throws. He can't shoot a

535
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: free throw, but look at Will Chamberlain. He can shoot

536
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: free throws either. He scored a hundred points and I

537
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: thought Annie led the league in points, rebounds, and assist

538
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: I believe twelve point seven at one time. Yeah. But

539
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: but but he was dominating on offense. He couldn't shoot

540
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: free throws, but he still dominated on offense. So it's

541
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: Ben doesn't dominate on offense. Okay, let me get to

542
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: my point. He will Chamberlain also dominate on defense. Except

543
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: I mean he played in the era of Bill Russell,

544
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: so he got overshadowed. Um. But my point, I mean

545
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: Simmons put him on the low post. No, no, no,

546
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: they've done that. But thanks for the phone called Mars.

547
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: He he doesn't want to get fouled, he doesn't want

548
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: to be inside. He wants to distribute. He's a perimeter

549
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: player who's not good on the perimeter. I mean, that's it.

550
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: He didn't want to go inside. It's so funny out

551
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: simple you said that, but it's it's mind blowing. He's

552
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: a perimeter player who can't play well to perimeter. Yes,

553
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: I mean, can can you trade him to Sacramento? You

554
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: could get a pretty good package there. I mean Tyrese Haliburton,

555
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: Buddy Healed, Marvin Bagley Junior, the third um. You know,

556
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: the Blazers. If if I don't know, I don't I

557
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: don't know if I would give up Damian Lenard, I

558
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I'm the club. What of the other

559
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: myths is? You know, he's like a defensive Player of

560
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: the Year candidate. He's a glove but if you're a

561
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: six foot two, quick shooting guard, you will just destroy him. No,

562
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: you're right, because like Trey Young, it's fifty feet from

563
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: the basket. So it's like Seaton said, today's NBA is

564
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: just not built for him. Yeah, he got exposed a

565
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: little bit with Trey Young. You know, Minnesota is also

566
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: a possibility. De Angelo Russell the Bowls with Zach Levine. Like,

567
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: there's teams, but I still go if I'm if I'm

568
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: one of these teams. What am I getting in Ben Simmons?

569
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: If I'm Philadelphia, I know what I'm getting with McCollum

570
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: or Dame Lillard or Buddy Healed from the Sacramento King

571
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: Zach Levine. I don't know what I'm getting in Ben Simmons.

572
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: I don't know who he is when I get him.

573
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: And he said, I go back to college. When I

574
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: saw him in his one year at LSU, I said,

575
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: I think he's shooting with a wrong hand. And I

576
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: was sort of joking, but I wasn't because I thought,

577
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: how does somebody not help something? You see somebody who

578
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: has that much talent, and then you look at that

579
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: shot and then you go, ooh, you know what, how

580
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: about we we spend some time in the lab here,

581
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: but it hasn't gotten better. Lonzo Ball has made himself

582
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: a better player, but he worked at making himself a

583
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: better player, and he had that hesitancy. He didn't want

584
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: to shoot. He was nervous on the perimeter. You could

585
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: see him. It'd be like a wide open eighteen footer

586
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm gonna throw it over here. And

587
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: you can't compare Ben Simmons to Wilt Chamberlain completely different era.

588
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean, and Wilt was average. Wilt average fifty a

589
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: game one one season. And yes, I know he led

590
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: the league in every statistical category at some point in

591
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: his career, including assist. Yes. Yeah, maybe there's a comparison

592
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: with Jannis. He couldn't hit his free throws. He got

593
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: cold in the postseason, but then he figured it out. Yeah,

594
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: Yannis still has to improve. Lebron is not a knockdown,

595
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: clutch time free throw shooter. It happens. I don't like

596
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: Lebron's form, Luca. You would think being that good a

597
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: shooter should be a better But you get to the line,

598
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: there's no movement. Nobody's saying anything. Or you might be

599
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: on the road, they are saying a lot of things

600
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: to you. You know, it's it's not normal because in

601
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: the flow of a game, you don't think like that.

602
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: You get to line, you're like a three dribbles two

603
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: tun and you know, it's it's a little bit different.

604
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: It plays tricks with you, at least it does with

605
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,239
Speaker 1: some of these players. Yeahple you can even compare them

606
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: a little apples and oranges to Zion Williamson. Coming out

607
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: of college, Zion only took thirty threes last year in

608
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: sixty games. He really hasn't tried to three. But Zion

609
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: average twenty seven points per game last year basically playing

610
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: the post and distributing, and Zion's free throws went up

611
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: from sixty four percent to seventy percent in one year.

612
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: He's not even twenty one yet. And he doesn't have

613
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: a jump shot. So one of the greatest leapers in

614
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: the game does not have a jump shot. Has a

615
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: set shot and and it's and it's not a bad

616
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: looking set shot, but he doesn't have a jumper. He

617
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: has nice form, Yeah, mclub. At least we know he's

618
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 1: with the right hand, yes, the left, Yeah, yes, his

619
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: his correct hand is his left hand. But you know,

620
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: his job. He wants to get in the paint. His

621
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: his uh you know, put back points, second chance points,

622
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: you know, lead the NBA. But he's not afraid to

623
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: get to the free throw line. But you have to

624
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: if you're gonna have the ball, and you're gonna have

625
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: the ball majority of the time, you have to be

626
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: a seventy five percent free throw shooter. You just have

627
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: to be. But Ben Simmons, I think he needs to

628
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: disappear where his games aren't on national TV where he's

629
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: not playing in big games right now, because I don't

630
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: think he's ready for it. But if I could get

631
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: him and I don't have to give up as much

632
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: as the seventy six ers won, I'd certainly look into

633
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: that absolutely. I just don't want him to get in

634
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: a situation where he ends up with like the Cavaliers

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Speaker 1: or something. You're gonna uh, you know, he'll he'll get

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Speaker 1: bad habits in some of these other places as well,

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Speaker 1: but he does need to go where this potlight is

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Speaker 1: just not as bright. Take a break. We'll come back

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Speaker 1: after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine

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Speaker 1: Hudschmansatta and Plexico Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts from. Let's bringing Brent Musburger,

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Speaker 1: who the legendary broadcaster and he's the lead broadcaster managing

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Speaker 1: editor at Vegas Stats and Information Network, and also he

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Speaker 1: is the voice for the Las Vegas Raiders, hosting Miami

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Speaker 1: on the Raiders Radio Network. Kickoff is at four oh

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Speaker 1: five Eastern, coming up this Sunday. Brent. Great to have

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Speaker 1: you back. How are you I am fine? Dan? Dan?

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Speaker 1: Did you say you're given a flask away? Yes, my man,

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Speaker 1: you got a summit one of those class for a

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Speaker 1: period of the Dad Patrick Show. You know what I'm saying, Hey, Hey,

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Speaker 1: mister Brady, he does it mence words. I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: I hadn't heard that that comment from him. I actually

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Speaker 1: met him when Tom was our quarterback at Michigan. Very nice,

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Speaker 1: very loyal obviously to his son, as he should be.

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Speaker 1: But that that sounds like a good podcast. How are you, Danny,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. Do you think we'll ever get the true

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Speaker 1: story of what happened in New England with Brady and Belichenka?

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Speaker 1: I'm laughing because Belichick never tells you the true story

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Speaker 1: about anything. I love him, I'd love him to death. Great,

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Speaker 1: great coach. Honestly, I knew his father who was in

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Speaker 1: the United States. Listen, I'm so old father. You know

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Speaker 1: what the hell is going on here? What was Abe

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Speaker 1: Lincoln like though? Brent that there was a guy you

677
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? He put up in a power

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Speaker 1: forward that. Uh. What's different about the Raiders this year

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Speaker 1: as opposed to previous years. Gus Bradley um great hire

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Speaker 1: by John Gruden. Listen, John Cruden is as good offensive

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Speaker 1: mind dan as as I've been around, and he and

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr they've been together now throughout this tenure and

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Speaker 1: they really work well. They understand Derek understands exactly what

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Speaker 1: John wants to do. But the defense was atrocious and

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Speaker 1: they were not well coached. Now they are. Gus Bradley

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Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. In fact, if you look down

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Speaker 1: at the Ampa Bay Buccaneers the big thing that they

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Speaker 1: had going for him. Yeah, sure they had Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: in the office, but Todd Bulls took over that defense,

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Speaker 1: and that to me, that was the unit that won

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The Chiefs couldn't do a thing against

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Speaker 1: the Bulls. So now the Raiders have Bradley, we have

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Speaker 1: a we have a decent defensive line, which we haven't had.

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Speaker 1: The key thing is not just that schematically, he knows

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Speaker 1: what he's doing and he knows the other He knew

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Speaker 1: talent and talent came to Las Vegas Dan because because

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Speaker 1: they liked Bradley kJ Wright. Let's just take kJ Wright.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't come to terms with the Seattle Seahawks on

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Speaker 1: a contract, but he had played for Bradley up there,

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Speaker 1: okay when they were the Legion of Doom and us

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Speaker 1: legion of boom, I should say. And then so he

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Speaker 1: signed and he's one of our good line. Denzel Perriman

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Speaker 1: turned loose by Caroline, couldn't beat out the youngster and

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Speaker 1: he wanted to play for Bradley. Again, you go on

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Speaker 1: down the line. And the key thing here is the

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Speaker 1: fact that I will tell you that when you look

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Speaker 1: at the Buccaneers. And I mentioned Tom Brady a lot

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Speaker 1: of times. It's the fact that he could get players

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Speaker 1: to come with it. Rob Gronkowski, Antonio Brown and Leonard Fournett.

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Speaker 1: It was Brady who reached out to them. Uh there

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Speaker 1: is you find out if chemistry is good, if people

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Speaker 1: like enjoy playing four certain coaches or with certain players,

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Speaker 1: and Bradley has been a big difference. That's that's why

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Speaker 1: we're two and oh. But everybody slow the role two

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Speaker 1: and oh doesn't mean anything. You know, our offensive line's

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Speaker 1: got a number of injuries. It was a great win

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh except the Steelers or without defensive players and

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Speaker 1: they lost what in the first half, So you know

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Speaker 1: it's it's two and oh. He has very nice and

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Speaker 1: they turned around after a Monday night, traveled three time

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Speaker 1: zones who won the game. But but you still gotta

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Speaker 1: you gotta win going forward. You know in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: you've been around a long time and and then nothing

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Speaker 1: lasts forever in that late so soon we shall see.

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Speaker 1: It's a great start. It's fun for the organization, and

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Speaker 1: the kids seem to be really good kids that seemed

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Speaker 1: to enjoy playing with each other. And we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think Derek Carr doesn't get the attention

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Speaker 1: that he should. Well, largely, when the media makes up

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Speaker 1: its mind about something or somebody, they're very reluctant to

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Speaker 1: change it. And he has struggled at times, and they

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Speaker 1: haven't had a winning team. He's not flashy, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: give you that that great SoundBite all the time. But

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Speaker 1: I don't out He's a solid, solid individual. Okay. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if anybody I'd rather have right here who's available.

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously there's Hall of Fame quarterbacks out there

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Speaker 1: that'll be good. But I think Dan, I think the

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Speaker 1: media made up its mind early on, and so it's

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Speaker 1: it's difficult to change their mind. He have to win

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Speaker 1: and get in the playoffs and make a decent run.

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Speaker 1: He's not you know, he's not a Lamar Jackson. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's not going to take over a game with electric

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Speaker 1: plays and things like that. Well, I'll tell you nobody's

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Speaker 1: thrown on the ball any better in the NFL right

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Speaker 1: now than he is. Talking to do Brent Musburger, lead

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Speaker 1: broadcaster managing editor at Vegas Stats and Information Network, with

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Speaker 1: how much information can you have that you can make

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Speaker 1: what you would consider an educated bet. One good question.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody decides when you're a gambler as I

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Speaker 1: am recreationally and full disclosure, we're two weeks into the

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Speaker 1: contest at Circuit here in Las Vegas, where you picked

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Speaker 1: five games against the spread DAN every week on five

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Speaker 1: hundred five and five, we had about four thousand entries.

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Speaker 1: We've had about one hundred entries. I can't believe it

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Speaker 1: that are ten and oh. I can't believe anybody is

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Speaker 1: ten and oh against the spread. I think everybody has

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Speaker 1: things that they make their final decision. I'm I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of driven by injuries and especially cluster injuries, especially the

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Speaker 1: offensive lines that I look at. You can never have.

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Speaker 1: You still have to be lucky. Okay, I want to

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Speaker 1: throw that out. There is no magic formula, and listen,

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Speaker 1: if you're a twenty dollars better with your friend, or

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Speaker 1: you've bet dinner or something, you can have fun. There's

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Speaker 1: no that's a great question. There's no magic formula. Before

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Speaker 1: you call this morning, I honestly was just kind of

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Speaker 1: quickly glancing down some of the lines, and I see

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Speaker 1: that the early line was that the Raiders were going

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Speaker 1: to be a point that this was before they played

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. Point they have favored over Miami, and I

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Speaker 1: see now that there's three and a half. The book

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Speaker 1: is adjust those numbers based upon what they think the

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Speaker 1: public is going to do, and so obviously they think

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Speaker 1: that the public is going to be betting on the

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Speaker 1: Raiders as the week goes on. I am I guess

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Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised at how the league has embraced

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Speaker 1: it so quickly, gambling, that is, on the games, after

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Speaker 1: being opposed to it for so long. I mean, my goodness,

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Speaker 1: I can't watch ESPN or anybody without seeing a scroll

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Speaker 1: andund below with a number on it, over under and everything.

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Speaker 1: But when you did the NFL today with Jimmy the Greek,

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Speaker 1: did you ever hear from Commissioner Roselle about being a

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Speaker 1: little too overt with the gambling. That's a very good

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Speaker 1: story because when we Bob Whistler and there were only

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Speaker 1: let's see, Pete Roselle had an attorney with him and

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Speaker 1: we went over to his office with Jimmy, Bob and myself,

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Speaker 1: so there were five of us in There were only

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Speaker 1: five of us in the room, and I knew that

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Speaker 1: Pete Roselle loved to bet horses because I would see

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Speaker 1: him at Aqueduct and Belmont from time to time. Wellington

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Speaker 1: Narrow was always with him, so I knew that he

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Speaker 1: understood gambling and was aware of it. And I was

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Speaker 1: pretty sure he'd be all in on the Greek, and

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Speaker 1: he was. It was. It was really a nice conversation.

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Speaker 1: But towards the end, and we were there upwards of

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Speaker 1: an hour, he looked at us and he said, listen,

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Speaker 1: I have only one request to make, and every one

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Speaker 1: of us, that's three from being from CBS knew that

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Speaker 1: when Pete Roselle asked us for one request, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: any request. This is how it was going to be.

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Speaker 1: He said, I don't want you to say minus three

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Speaker 1: or plus seven minus ten, so but otherwise go ahead

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Speaker 1: talk about it. And I thought to myself, my heart sunk.

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Speaker 1: I said, oh my goodness, how do you do this

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Speaker 1: without saying that? And it was on the walk back

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Speaker 1: to CBS that the Greek and Bob and I decided

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Speaker 1: to try the checkboard and that people would understand that

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Speaker 1: if all the checks were lined up on one side,

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Speaker 1: it was going to be a big win. Okay, And

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Speaker 1: you could go ahead. But if it was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: back and forth, this team's offense is better than that

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Speaker 1: other team's defense, then down by the three, or maybe

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Speaker 1: you want to jump on the underdog and things like that.

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Speaker 1: So we used that. And to tell you the truth,

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Speaker 1: Roselle never ever complained about anything. He was always very

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Speaker 1: very nice, very very complimentary to the Greek. The only

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Speaker 1: time that I ever got a call, but it never

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00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: came from the NFL, it always came from CBS and

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00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: was at the end of the NFC Championship. We were

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Speaker 1: in the NFC network at CBFS. But any rate, I

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Speaker 1: would always ask the Greek Greek, call your buddies in Vegas,

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Speaker 1: give me the line for the Super Bowl. And I

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Speaker 1: always had it going forward. I always knew what it

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Speaker 1: was going to be, depending upon who would win the game,

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Speaker 1: and I would throw it out at the end because

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Speaker 1: I always thought people were interested in the number, whether

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Speaker 1: they gamble or not. And I knew I was going

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Speaker 1: to get a call on Monday morning critics. You can't

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Speaker 1: do that, Brent, you can't and oh my goodness, I forgot.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I apologize, and then next year I do

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Speaker 1: it all over again. Do what I'm saying. I saw

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Speaker 1: there's a book out on the NFL Today Show that

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Speaker 1: you started back in the seventies. I think it's called

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Speaker 1: You're Looking Live. Are you aware that there's a book

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Speaker 1: on the history of the NFL Today Show on CBS. No,

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Speaker 1: I know nothing about it, to tell you the truth,

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Speaker 1: So so I'm assuming that I'm going to get quick. Hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: I know he had no clue about even who wrote it,

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Speaker 1: But if the dude sends me a free copy, you know,

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Speaker 1: I might read it. Okay, But what how much drama

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00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: was there back then that they're going to write a

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Speaker 1: book about it? Well, there was drama, of certainly between

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Speaker 1: the Greek and Phyllis George. There there no doubt about that, okay,

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00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: because we only had twenty two minutes of content Dan

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Speaker 1: and the Greek. The Greek was always pissed if he

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Speaker 1: thought he wasn't getting enough time or I was paying

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Speaker 1: too much attention to Phillis and thank God for a

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Speaker 1: cross by the way, My goodness, he was mister stability

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Speaker 1: because I knew him from being with him in Northwestern

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Speaker 1: when he when he played for Eric Parsegon. I thought

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Speaker 1: of people don't realize that they started Miami of Ohio,

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Speaker 1: came to Northwestern before he ever went to Notre to

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Speaker 1: him and became a camplight. Can you imagine that there's

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Speaker 1: my favorite Presbyterian coach at north and he became a

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Speaker 1: cathod No Arrow was a great, great friend of mine.

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Speaker 1: Later became a broadcaster with it. But yeah, I honestly

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Speaker 1: I know nothing about the book. In fact, your producer,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even though there was one coming out until

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Speaker 1: he just told me in the text. So I don't.

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Speaker 1: But who knows. Maybe somebody ran into me over a

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Speaker 1: couple of whiskeys, and I thought, who, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Now they talk about I guess a post show altercation

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Speaker 1: with you in the Greek where he took us Oh no,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, baby. My brother was sitting there.

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Speaker 1: We were in a booth and the Greek was hacked

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Speaker 1: about the lack of time, and he came in a

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Speaker 1: wound and obviously he had an other watering hall before

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Speaker 1: he came to this one, and he threw a punch

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Speaker 1: at me. But listen, it was like he tapped me

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Speaker 1: on the back to tell you the truth. But my

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Speaker 1: brother dove across that table after the Greek and the

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Speaker 1: and the Greek backed up to the bark, grabbed a bottle,

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Speaker 1: used to and he smashed the bottle. You know, the

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Speaker 1: old time saloon fight. He smashed the bottle. Right, The

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Speaker 1: smartest guy in the room down by far, the smartest

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Speaker 1: guy in the room was a bart Under he turned

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Speaker 1: the lights off. It plunged the entire place in the darkness. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that by the time the flashlights came out, you know,

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Speaker 1: people were the opposite into the room. And that was it.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was over and done. And and so

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Speaker 1: I got home. I was I was community between LA

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Speaker 1: at the time. I was working with Kandie Chung on

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Speaker 1: the news and Van Gordon and Solder was in the

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Speaker 1: head of CBS. What you called I'm a gonna fire

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Speaker 1: that some pitch I'm a fire, said, I said. I said,

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Speaker 1: hold on my man, I said, because I didn't want

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Speaker 1: blood on my hands over that. So I said, let

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Speaker 1: me call you back. So when I talked to my wife,

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Speaker 1: I had a few coffees, sat there and thought of

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Speaker 1: what I call I said Van calling Bart said vand no,

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Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to Greek fire. I said,

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Speaker 1: let me think about something that we'll we'll get this done.

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Speaker 1: And so we went to Bob Aarram who was a buddy,

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Speaker 1: and cut my hands on some boxing gloves and a

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Speaker 1: bell and we opened the show. And likely it was

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Speaker 1: more like a couple of brothers having a having a

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Speaker 1: fight than uh than a couple of antagonists to tarry

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Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, but that was a hell of a

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Speaker 1: night of that saloon. I'll tell you that. It's great

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Speaker 1: to hear your voice. Congrats on your raiders and thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us. As always, Brent, thanks for checking in, Dan,

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Speaker 1: you and the guys take talk to you. So thanks, guys.

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Speaker 1: That's Brent Musburger.