WEBVTT - Bachelor Recap with Zachary Reality 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.760 Before we begin the recap, we do want to say 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:07.240 that we are thinking and praying for Katie Thurston, who 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:09.959 came out this weekend with an announcement that she has 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:14.440 breast cancer. She's in the midst of it right now, 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:21.119 planning her treatment process. She will have to undergo chemo unfortunately. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:24.439 So we're going to do a whole episode on breast 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:32.320 cancer early detection, what's lookout for anything we can find 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.440 out about Katie's case. We of course want to have 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:40.159 her on at some point whenever she feels comfortable to 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:45.479 talk about her specific case, but until then, we just 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.840 want to make sure that everybody out there is getting 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:53.080 the influid they need because this is affecting women of 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.800 a lot of a younger age these days. Katie is 0:00:55.880 --> 0:01:00.640 thirty four, and it's becoming less and less shocking to 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:02.680 hear of a thirty four year old having breast cancer. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.640 Normally it would be something that you would think of 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:07.679 as forties, and plus that's when they tell. 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.600 You to start getting your mammograms at forty. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:13.840 And I'm thinking that earlier is probably better now. But yeah, 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:15.679 so we're gonna have a doctor on later this week 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:20.600 to talk about breast cancer whole episode. We are so 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:22.960 so sorry, and we were thinking about Katie. We're praying 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.280 for every day. Really hope that you know. But if 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.760 anybody is gonna like kick cancer's ass, you know it 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:33.360 is Katie Thurston. Like, this girl is a strong, tough 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:39.600 woman and we're behind her and giving her all the 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:41.279 love and support we possibly consent. 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.440 This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:46.280 with iHeartRadio. 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:52.200 Hey, everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. It's Ashley 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.160 and Ben is still out on paternity leave, so we 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:59.080 are here with Zachary Reality to recap this week's episode 0:01:59.080 --> 0:01:59.800 of Grand Season. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:01.880 Hey Zach Hello, Hello. 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:03.520 I feel like I'm in the right place because I 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.920 am like so Bachelor Nation strong. I love the show, 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:07.880 I love the franchise. So I'm so excited to chat 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:08.440 all things with you. 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:12.320 And you told me off Mike that you love this season. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.240 So we are a little a bit in a disagreeance here, 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.240 but I love that there are people who love this season. 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:20.120 Why is it that it's got you? 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.480 I love the girl drama and the girl competition. All 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:25.399 of these girls are so fabulous. I feel like every 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.200 week I get to know them better, and I think 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.280 that's why the show gets better as it goes along 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.680 because you actually get invested as time goes on. So, 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.040 now four episodes in, I know everyone's name. I feel 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.240 so confident going into the final seven. We have our 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.120 key players left, so I think we have a good 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:40.480 group and we have good drama. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:44.000 After this episode, who do you think is going to hometowns? 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:48.200 Because that is right around the freaking corner. It's either 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.800 gonna be not of course, next week, but you think 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:52.720 it's gonna be the following week. You think we're gonna 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:53.960 eliminate three girls next week. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.919 I kind of do. For some reason. I feel like 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:58.480 this is a shorter season, but I don't know. 0:02:58.520 --> 0:02:59.040 I hope not. 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.760 I was actually hoping would stay and that just Natalie 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.799 would go because it feels like the girls are going 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.960 so fast. But I think for Hometowns, I definitely see Juliana, 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:10.920 Let's Sea, Dina and Alex in the top four. 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:15.560 Okay, I would agree that this episode, probably there's always 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:19.160 one episode like this kind of trimmed the fat. You know, 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.280 the three obvious people to go home were the ones 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:22.920 that went home. 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.840 Yeah, but Rose was unexpected because she was like over 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.240 it and they worked through it and then she just 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.560 like maybe process things. A couple days later went off 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.600 on Carolina spiraled and left like it was just so 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:34.519 shocking and sudden. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.600 It was interesting, But I still think she would have 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.320 been the last one to be eliminated. I just don't 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.840 think they got there yet, comparable to the rest of 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.480 the girls that happened that are remaining. Okay, so let's 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.680 go through the episode. Group date number one is Dina. 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:55.000 You know, all before that group day always sees them, 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:56.800 you know, finding out that they're going to Madrid. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:58.080 It's the day. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:05.040 After the the prom rose ceremony, and people are still 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:08.680 feeling not so great about Carolina having taken time, but 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.240 we're focused on Dina. 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:10.560 Now. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:12.160 They do the. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:16.600 Classic They did the classic Spanish trip. This is what 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:18.600 they do every time they go to Spain. The kids 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:23.600 play soccer. There's like dancing in the streets. What else 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:25.680 did they do on their date? There was there was 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.440 one moment that I was like, oh, that's actually kind 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:29.000 of cute. 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:30.880 They were just kind of vibing all day. 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.360 They ride a little boat. It was the boat that's nice. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.920 Yeah, And that night she was talking about how she's 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.360 one of eleven, so she has a lot of siblings 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.680 and then with her parents they were thirteen. So she 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:44.440 was just talking about how she had to kind of 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.839 overcome feeling like she had to prove herself. 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.600 I guess right, And I just I really like I 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.080 went from Okay, if you listen to the podcast, you 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:55.960 kind of know that. Like, I just didn't think that 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:57.119 he had it with Dina. 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:58.880 I thought she was also. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.839 Kind of hanging by a thread. Actually I was definitely wrong. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.240 She is different than the rest of the girls. She 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.239 is intimidating, like she says that she often comes across 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.320 to people, but you can tell she's truly smart. 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.159 She does a lot to her. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.480 And I think he thinks it's really sexy the way 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.719 that she's like this strong, independent woman. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:20.600 Mm hmm. Yeah. 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.760 But I also didn't see that much of a connection 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:23.920 between them as well. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:25.880 I feel like she could. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.800 End up being more of a friend, and I don't 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:30.839 think that he's gonna end up picking her. 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:32.400 She also was a little boring. 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:34.080 Okay, interested sick. 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:35.680 I like the way that we're on different pages here. 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.360 I also don't think that they're going to end up together. 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.800 I'm not even sure she'll be Final four, but I 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.839 think that he's very intrigued by her. I think she's 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.680 different than anyone he's ever dated. And they have this 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:52.160 interesting conversation where he says that she reminds him of 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:56.360 his mom, but he's he's spoken about his mom and 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:00.240 not he loves his mom. He definitely, you know, thinks 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.920 that she's a great woman and so grateful for everything 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.800 that like she's she did for him and his sister. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.839 But he definitely says that his mom focused too much 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.400 on work. It was too focused on the provider element. 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:18.200 And I think that he when he says that you 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.800 remind me of my mom, he's thinking about that too. 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:25.120 And then they have this discussion over like I can 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:26.880 take care of you, you take care of me, like 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:31.159 we have like we're both equals in this providing element 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.760 of the relationship. Would you think about this this conversation. 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.640 Yeah, I mean, I definitely feel like picking Dina would 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.719 be like stable, and she seems responsible, Like she seems 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.080 like she'll be a great responsible She's gonna be a 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.160 great wife and mother. But I just don't think that 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.960 she has that like adventurous spirit, and like maybe she does, 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.040 because the fiery side of her kind of came out 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.000 in the coming attractions for now. 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.599 She said that she went to Europe three times during 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.400 the summer. Do you remember that from last week? 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:57.120 And I didn't even remember that. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.200 But there was just something a little like boring about 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.680 her where she seems like a little uptight for him. 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:06.040 I don't know, I agree, I understand this, like I don't. Yeah, 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:10.040 I don't see this happening. But but she's more of 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.040 a contender than I thought she would be. So back 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:14.720 at the house, the girls are speculating and. 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.760 She could come home with a Rosaora like most people 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:21.040 think she is. And the date card says that alex. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:25.920 Letia, Carolina, Natalie, Rose, Parisa, Zoe, and Juliana would be 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.120 going on a wild ride. This means that Saraphina will 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.040 get the will be getting the one on one date. 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:36.200 During this home portion, you can already see people are 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:41.760 chirpin about Carolina and her complaints. What's your take on 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.400 Carolina's complaints thus far? Because from what I feel like 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:51.000 we've seen, she I interpret it as she is insecure 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.760 that she went on a date with him, she really 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.040 liked him. She came home and she was like, oh 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.520 my gosh, now I have to see other people date 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:03.600 him and everything worry, worry, and her doubts are more 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.960 of like doubting this process, Like this process is crazy. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.120 How am I actually supposed to know if I can 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.840 get engaged to this guy. I don't hear her coming 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:18.679 up with doubts about his character. Are we missing something? 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.720 I think she's over sharing to the group. I think 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:22.280 these are things. 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.280 Oh well, I agree that these are things. 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.000 You need to keep an interview, like this is what 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.520 you tell your producers when you're in the confessionals. This 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.520 is not what you share to the girls. I think 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.920 she thinks that everyone. I don't know if people are 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.120 asking her questions and she just really wants to just 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.560 share all. But I feel like she's oversharing. She should 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.839 be keeping her cards closer to her chest. And I 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:41.760 think that's going to be her demise, is that she 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.600 is letting everyone know her business. And I think that's 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.240 where she put her foot in her mouth one too 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.319 many times, and why she's rubbing people the wrong way, 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.960 because like she's realistic and she's skeptical, but she's just 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.800 like being too aloof with like her information. 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:57.240 This is so true. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.880 Yes, these are things that you write in yourcheler diary, 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.160 and that you tell your producer. But why are you 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.880 telling the girls that you have any sorts of doubts? 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.839 Because everybody secretly has the doubts, but you say it 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.120 out loud, and it's gonna not be a good look. 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.560 All right, So let's get to the group date and 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.280 we'll talk more about Carolina later. So the group date's 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:23.360 actually quite fun. It's a bull riding contest, and Alex 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.880 comes up with this way to really grab onto the 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:28.079 bull by the horse. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:31.119 She took the bull by the horns, and she rides. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.400 That thing well, and of course Zoe takes up her 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:39.840 her you know her, and yeah, and she ends up 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:41.920 beating her out with this. And I do not believe 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.360 that she actually beat her in this competition. I think 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.680 Alex deserved it. But it wasn't as if they really 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:52.440 even got much of a reward for winning this, so 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:53.760 I guess it wasn't that big of a deal. 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:55.960 It was like a sunset champagne moment. It probably was 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.080 like an extra thirty minutes. 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.280 Let's say, you know what, You're right, it was was 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.000 I forgot about the sunset champagne. 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.600 And those moments are they're critical when you add them up. 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.000 Mm hmm. Well, Zoe I think is really strong, like 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:08.800 she was a wrestler. 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.079 She has muscles, and I think riding the bull is 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.439 about like staying tight to it, So I think that's 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.360 why she won. And Zoe is beautiful as well. I 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:20.080 mean she's stunning and gorgeous Zoe. She's stunned this She's 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.440 also been a little bit like high maintenance too, and 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.920 a lot of drama. So I think it'll be interesting 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.959 if she makes it to Hometowns because she has been 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:29.040 a rollercoaster this season. 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:34.760 Yes, I don't know if she will, but she was 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:36.800 one of my first guesses to make Hometowns. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.000 Who the heck knows. 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.120 She Her character is all over the place because they 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.800 were villainizing her last week and the week before, and 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:45.920 now all of a sudden, she's just kind of one 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:46.559 of the girls. 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:47.880 No one's complaining about her. 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.240 Well, Carolina has took up that spot and is really 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.320 taking over the show. I mean, I'm sure she's gonna 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.080 go home next week. It's gonna hit it all time high. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.200 But she's giving us a lot of material. Where do 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.600 you think she ranks in Bachelor villains? 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.240 Oh, Carolina, I think she said nothing villain. I don't 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:04.400 even think she's a villain. 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:09.319 I think she's partially being a little bit misunderstood. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.720 We will get to the and I guess you're right. 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.920 This takes part at. 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:19.360 The after party, the bull riding after party, Carolina and 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:37.760 Juliana have their big confrontation here. I didn't like this, Okay, 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:42.520 so call me a devil's advocate, which I tend to 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:48.200 look at the show through devil's advocate glasses, But I 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.560 thought that Juliana seemed to be a little bit villainous 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:55.760 in this moment. She was like, do you feel that, 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:00.600 because she was like, you are making everything up about you, 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.880 like your doubts. But then it was the doubts. She's like, 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:08.520 why do you keep talking about your doubts? And I'm like, 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:12.480 just because the girl's expressing her doubts doesn't mean that 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.680 she's not appreciative of the time that she had. She's 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.000 not saying, man, I wish I didn't have that time 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:21.600 with Grant. She's saying, I have doubts about the time 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:27.000 that I had with him, and she's doubting the process, which, 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.280 like you said, she should be saying to somebody else 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.000 or in her Bachelor diary. 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:34.680 So it's a weird move to be talking to the 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:35.400 girls about. 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:41.200 This, But she's technically not being not appreciative. She's just 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:48.520 being thoughtful. Am I crazy? Our producer here is giving 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.400 me support, she texted me in the chat she is 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:57.320 she agrees. It's yeah, there's a difference between not appreciating time, 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:01.240 which is what Juliana is accusing her of being doubtful 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:02.840 of the time that she's had with him. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.480 Go ahead, Zach Well, it was just so weird. I love. 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.040 The key moment of the night was when Carolina said, 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.520 what is your question? So what's your question? Because Juliana, 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.520 no one asked for your opinion. And I do think 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.840 that Juliana was like kind of speaking a little bit 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.080 of facts of some frustration that her and some of 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.720 the other girls have had about Carolina, but ultimately, like, 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.960 it's really not your business to pull her aside and 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.400 tell her what you think about her when she didn't ask, 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:26.760 And are you trying to help her, are you trying 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:28.480 to give her advice or are you just trying to like. 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.400 Let your feelings off your chest. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.640 Because other than that, go to confessional, go to say 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:35.400 it for the women tell all like, there's no point 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.040 of pulling her aside if you're not trying to help her. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.320 So it felt like she was trying to like corner her, 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.120 and she did look like the villain in that situation. 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:43.480 Oh you did, okay you thought? 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:43.600 So? 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:44.400 Okay, good, I'm. 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.960 Team Carolina, but the internet is siding with Juliana. 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:48.800 Your team Carolina. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.760 Okay, yeah, I've been team Carolina, even last week with 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:53.560 the Rose stuff. 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:55.600 I've been riding with Carolina all season. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:14:00.000 Okay, yes, So again, if they're annoyed at her time 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.680 taking up time, there's been times where we get it. 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.640 But last week I think she had every right to 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:11.360 go up to him and say, hey, so this girl 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.880 Rose told me that when you were like dirty dancing 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.080 with me, you were thinking of her. 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:22.040 Of course she's going to she's gonna confront him about that. 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:27.359 That is legit, and that is this episode, the turnaround 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:27.760 on that. 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.400 We will get to that in a minute, but I just. 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.200 Want to just to focus a little bit more on 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.360 the Juliana conversation. It was bizarre because Juliana, who has 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:42.360 I think, really tried to be very likable and put together. 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.800 She showed some cracks in this conversation. To me, she 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:51.080 seemed to get great joy out of telling Grant that 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:56.720 Carolina was being a problem in the house. And she definitely, 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.600 from what we've seen, exaggerated what. 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:03.800 She's been saying because. 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:07.240 She was like, she's had doubts about you. She's talking 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.280 about how she's not sure about you. We as an 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.200 audience haven't seen it. So who's in the wrong here. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:18.440 Is Juliana making this up? Or are the producers or 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:23.360 the editors not showing us important stuff to the storyline, 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.160 which has been our theme on this podcast all season long. 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.320 Are we missing something because the puzzle pieces aren't fitting. 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.680 There's off camera conversations. It was eluded last week when 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:37.120 Rose and Carolina. That key point happened off camera. I 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.840 think the girls are talking in the bunks at night, 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.480 in the bathroom, in the bathroom or at night maybe 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.720 like when the when they're sleeping, like do you think 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.120 they're they're probably telling each other how they really feel. 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.200 And I think they're testing their friendships and testing who 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.120 will bring what to air. I mean Rose said this 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.520 week like I would never have brought that to air, 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.520 So there seems to be some miscommunication. I kind of 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.920 believe Juliana, and I do think she has Grant's best interest. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.600 I also think she's a major front runner. She's actually 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:03.160 my winter pick. 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:04.840 Carolina is still your winter pick. 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.360 No, Juliana is my winter Oh Juliana. 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.760 I think there's room for Juliana to recover from this 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.360 misstep that she had this week. 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:17.080 I don't think that Juliana has misstepped in Grant's eyes, right, 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:18.560 it seems like he's still. 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.160 Very much like it does not. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.640 He said that I respect you more after you coming 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:28.280 to me and airing this out, which was usually bachelors 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:32.320 won't say that about somebody who is being the rat, 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:37.560 you know. Oftentimes the you know, we gotta say what 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:41.720 we gotta say, but usually those people don't get all 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:46.200 the way and are barely ever said like, I respect. 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:47.760 You more for coming to me and telling me this. 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:48.360 Right. 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:49.960 But so, what happened in the group, Dad is after 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.760 Juliana and Carolina's misstep, Grant came back and he kind 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.120 of interrupted when they were talking to the girls in 0:16:56.200 --> 0:17:00.000 the group, do you remember, And then Grant pulled Carolyne 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.840 aside because he noticed that she was crying, and then 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:03.880 he didn't hands out. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:04.679 The group date Rose. 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.879 Oh yes, so this is gonna make the girls dislike 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:12.840 Carolina even more because Grant pulled her aside. Now she's 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:14.840 getting even more time, and then no one gets a roast, 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:16.760 So now they all feel like they got punished. 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.439 Yes, you're right, Well, this is all above. You know, 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.800 these are all God's hands at work. These are the 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.800 Bachelor God's hands at work. Of course, Caroline is gonna 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.160 be the last one to talk to him, and therefore 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:34.919 it's gonna seem like she's the one to blame. All right, Well, 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.919 then let's go on to the one group, the final 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.359 one on one before we get into the real nitty 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.840 gritty with Carolina. At the end of the episode, this 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:47.720 is with Sarah Fina. They go bungee jumping, and every 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:51.080 time I do a bungee jumping day, I contemplate whether 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:54.959 it seems fun or or I could never do it. 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.600 I would never do that in my life. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.240 I don't want to jump off a bridge, I don't 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.960 want to jump out of thee I don't like roller coasters. 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.200 But Sara Fina, she was fearless. 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.919 See, I think I would do it over water on 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:11.120 The Bachelor, not in life, but on the Bachelor as 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.119 a bonding over love experience. Like if they had me 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.119 and Jared go back and do like an episode, I 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:17.080 would do this with him. 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.600 He actually did it with Claire, so that makes it 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.040 quite weird. He did it over water with Claire. 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.919 They do it almost every single season. They do the 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.960 bungee jump, and you know there's bachelor trivia for you. 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.959 There's one girl who did not do it on her 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:32.640 one on one date when she was supposed to jump 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.119 out of a bridge. 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:35.560 Do you know who it is? 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.000 No? Who good trivia. 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.200 From one Pablo season. Her name is Chelsea. 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.320 She refused to jump off the bridge, so she just 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:45.560 they just changed the date. 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:46.399 They just didn't do it. 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:47.640 Did he get annoyed? 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:49.760 I don't think so, not really. 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.240 Oh my gosh, that's so. That's such good trivia. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:54.800 I was thinking of like last night. The reason I 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:56.440 thought of that was because I would never jump off 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.400 a bridge. If I was Sarah Fina, like, I would 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.719 be like, I'm not doing this because that seems so scary. 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.160 But she was so fearless, so I really commend her 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:03.440 for that. 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.440 What I thought about was like the fact that you're 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.679 going down head first, you know, and then your head 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:10.800 hangs upside down. 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:12.840 That seems to be the worst part. 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.679 Like when they did the jump in Vegas, that seems 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:19.239 like something I would definitely do on a bachelor date, 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.320 but never voluntarily do this is just like, ah, does 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:23.560 this actually hurt? 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:24.000