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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. It's Ashley

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Speaker 1: and Ben is still out on paternity leave, so we

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Speaker 1: are here with Zachary Reality to recap this week's episode

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Speaker 1: of Grand Season.

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Speaker 4: Hey Zach Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I'm in the right place because I

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Speaker 5: am like so Bachelor Nation strong. I love the show,

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Speaker 5: I love the franchise. So I'm so excited to chat

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Speaker 5: all things with you.

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Speaker 2: And you told me off Mike that you love this season.

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Speaker 1: So we are a little a bit in a disagreeance here,

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Speaker 1: but I love that there are people who love this season.

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Speaker 2: Why is it that it's got you?

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Speaker 5: I love the girl drama and the girl competition. All

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Speaker 5: of these girls are so fabulous. I feel like every

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Speaker 5: week I get to know them better, and I think

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Speaker 5: that's why the show gets better as it goes along

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Speaker 1: After this episode, who do you think is going to hometowns?

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Speaker 1: Because that is right around the freaking corner. It's either

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Speaker 1: one episode like this kind of trimmed the fat. You know,

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Speaker 2: She could come home with a Rosaora like most people

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Speaker 1: we'll talk more about Carolina later. So the group date's

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Speaker 2: She took the bull by the horns, and she rides.

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Speaker 5: It was like a sunset champagne moment. It probably was

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Speaker 1: Let's say, you know what, You're right, it was was

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Speaker 1: She Her character is all over the place because they

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Speaker 2: No one's complaining about her.

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Speaker 5: Well, Carolina has took up that spot and is really

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Speaker 5: But she's giving us a lot of material. Where do

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Speaker 2: Oh, Carolina, I think she said nothing villain. I don't

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Speaker 1: I think she's partially being a little bit misunderstood.

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Speaker 2: We will get to the and I guess you're right.

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Speaker 1: The after party, the bull riding after party, Carolina and

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Speaker 1: just because the girl's expressing her doubts doesn't mean that

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Speaker 2: So it's a weird move to be talking to the

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Speaker 1: This, But she's technically not being not appreciative. She's just

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Speaker 1: which is what Juliana is accusing her of being doubtful

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Zach Well, it was just so weird. I love.

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Speaker 5: The key moment of the night was when Carolina said,

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Speaker 4: Let your feelings off your chest.

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Speaker 5: Because other than that, go to confessional, go to say

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Speaker 5: So it felt like she was trying to like corner her,

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Speaker 2: Oh you did, okay you thought?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Team Carolina, but the internet is siding with Juliana.

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Speaker 2: Your team Carolina.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I've been team Carolina, even last week with

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Speaker 4: I've been riding with Carolina all season.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, So again, if they're annoyed at her time

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Speaker 1: Rose told me that when you were like dirty dancing

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Speaker 2: Of course she's going to she's gonna confront him about that.

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Speaker 1: That is legit, and that is this episode, the turnaround

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Speaker 2: We will get to that in a minute, but I just.

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Speaker 1: She showed some cracks in this conversation. To me, she

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Speaker 2: She's been saying because.

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Speaker 1: She was like, she's had doubts about you. She's talking

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Speaker 5: There's off camera conversations. It was eluded last week when

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Speaker 5: Rose and Carolina. That key point happened off camera. I

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Speaker 5: And I think they're testing their friendships and testing who

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Speaker 2: Carolina is still your winter pick.

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Speaker 4: No, Juliana is my winter Oh Juliana.

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Speaker 5: I think there's room for Juliana to recover from this

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Speaker 1: I don't think that Juliana has misstepped in Grant's eyes, right,

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Speaker 2: Very much like it does not.

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Speaker 1: He said that I respect you more after you coming

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Speaker 1: to me and airing this out, which was usually bachelors

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Speaker 1: you know. Oftentimes the you know, we gotta say what

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Speaker 2: You more for coming to me and telling me this.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: But so, what happened in the group, Dad is after

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Speaker 5: Juliana and Carolina's misstep, Grant came back and he kind

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Speaker 4: The group date Rose.

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Speaker 5: Oh yes, so this is gonna make the girls dislike

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Speaker 5: Carolina even more because Grant pulled her aside. Now she's

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Speaker 5: So now they all feel like they got punished.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you're right, Well, this is all above. You know,

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Speaker 1: these are all God's hands at work. These are the

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Speaker 1: gritty with Carolina. At the end of the episode, this

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Speaker 1: is with Sarah Fina. They go bungee jumping, and every

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Speaker 1: time I do a bungee jumping day, I contemplate whether

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Speaker 4: I would never do that in my life.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to jump off a bridge, I don't

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Speaker 5: But Sara Fina, she was fearless.

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Speaker 1: See, I think I would do it over water on

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Speaker 1: The Bachelor, not in life, but on the Bachelor as

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Speaker 2: He actually did it with Claire, so that makes it

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Speaker 5: They do it almost every single season. They do the

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Speaker 5: bungee jump, and you know there's bachelor trivia for you.

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Speaker 5: There's one girl who did not do it on her

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Speaker 4: Do you know who it is?

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Speaker 2: No? Who good trivia.

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Speaker 4: From one Pablo season. Her name is Chelsea.

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Speaker 5: She refused to jump off the bridge, so she just

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Speaker 5: they just changed the date.

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Speaker 4: They just didn't do it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so, not really.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's so. That's such good trivia.

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Speaker 5: I was thinking of like last night. The reason I

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Speaker 1: What I thought about was like the fact that you're

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Speaker 2: That seems to be the worst part.

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Speaker 1: Like when they did the jump in Vegas, that seems

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Speaker 1: like something I would definitely do on a bachelor date,

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: And would I rather go skydiving or bungee jumping? Which

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but I feel like they were told to

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Speaker 2: Definitely they're like play along, yeah, and the safety.

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Speaker 5: Because Sarafina just wasn't sweating like most people would at

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Speaker 5: Like she was just so tough. She was like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: it could have been way more dramatic.

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Speaker 1: So Sarafina to me is the girl that got this

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Speaker 1: week's date, and we'll get through to next week, but

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Speaker 2: Did we waste that one on one?

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Speaker 1: You know, like they have a nice, a nice friendly connection.

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Speaker 1: I don't see a great love here, what about you?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, the highlight of the date is when

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Speaker 5: my mom's watching.

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Speaker 4: My mom is watching, So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It was the best.

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Speaker 5: So that's where it's interesting because it's like, yes, Sarafina

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Speaker 5: So there might be more to Serafina to be explored,

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either.

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Speaker 1: She does talk about how she was embarrassed to be

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Speaker 1: little vulnerable moment and you know.

443
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 4: She looks like Charity.

444
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: I like her. Okay, thank you, thank you. I'm like,

445
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: this girl is exactly Charity.

446
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 4: And you know who you know, Alex? She looks just

447
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 4: like Michelle too, you.

448
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 2: Think Alex Michelle Alex?

449
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: Okay, because Alex has been I look at her every

450
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: week and I go, who do you look like? She

451
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: looks so much like someone. I'm not sure if it's Michelle.

452
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 1: She has Michelle like qualities for sure. But Sarafina is Charity.

453
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 5: Right, No, for real, I really like Sarafina. She seems

454
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 5: sassy and fun. She did make one rude comment this

455
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 5: season when she was saying that Zoe's dress was too short.

456
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was weird. That's kind of isn't that a

457
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 4: rude comment?

458
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not a comment that we make in today's

459
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: day and age, But then again we.

460
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: Do, do you know what I mean?

461
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: Like, that's like the kind of thing that you're not

462
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: gonna say on camera because you're not going to be

463
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: like the anti feminist girl. You're not going to be

464
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: the one that's putting women down right for their clothing choices?

465
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 2: Will you whisper about it in the bathroom? Possibly?

466
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 5: Right, So she'll probably have to clarify that at the

467
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 5: Women Tell All. But I mean, she got the rose,

468
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 5: so she's in the top seven. I can't believe there's

469
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 5: only seven girls.

470
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 1: Lefts Yeah, I know, so crazy. Okay, So let's get

471
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: to the rose ceremony. Well, the cocktail party rose ceremony

472
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: the most juicy part of the entire night. So I

473
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: first want to just say, because I got a little

474
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: comment from our producer here she goes. When Juliana was

475
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: talking to Grant earlier in the episode, she was smiling

476
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: ear to ear when she was talking. She's like, you know,

477
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: talking about Carolina. Why was she's delivering it with such

478
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: a joy and such pride. I don't know, I really

479
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: that was That was weird, and I think that's gonna

480
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about this a lot when it comes

481
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: to Juliana in the future, especially next week when she

482
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: looks to get the one on one.

483
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 4: I think she just really thought she was right.

484
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 5: I think she really wanted to tell her side of

485
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 5: the story because she didn't get to. She had to

486
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 5: wait like two days, right, because the group day ended

487
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 5: so abruptly.

488
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: She had to wait two days because the group Oh

489
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: that's right, Yes, because she actually I was talking about

490
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: this before. This is actually the top of the episode

491
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: that he talks to Juliana from her perspective.

492
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I got that.

493
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: Next step, Yeah, he's talking to her at the top

494
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: of this nurse cocktail party party. Yeah, all right, So

495
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: this is when Grant says that Carolina the situations and

496
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: bothering him a lot. He's saying he doesn't know how

497
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: he feels about Carolina, and it's concerning after what Juliana

498
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 1: has told him. So then he pulls Carolina aside and

499
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: says that it's been hurting him to hear that she's

500
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: questioning this, this whole thing, that he's developed.

501
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: A spot a soft spot for her after.

502
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: They're one on one, because you know, she revealed about

503
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: the fact that she has epilepsy, and he said that

504
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: he wanted to take care of her, really really sweet,

505
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,239
Speaker 1: and then she said, it's very frustrating to hear all this.

506
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: She says that it's more normal to have doubts and

507
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: questions after this is.

508
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: Such a good point.

509
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: It's more normal to have doubts and questions about somebody

510
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: that I went on a first date with than to

511
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: just be like, hey, I'm going to marry him tomorrow,

512
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yes, Carolina exactly.

513
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 4: She's speaking facts.

514
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: It's always the person that brings realism to the show

515
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: that gets villainized.

516
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 4: Right.

517
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 5: Well, it'll be interesting if Carolina makes it to hometowns too,

518
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 5: and then that becomes a conversation with her family.

519
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: Yes, and it probably will, because it's always a quite

520
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: The family's always like this process seems kind of weird.

521
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: Isn't it weird to like get engaged to somebody you've

522
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: got on two.

523
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: Dates with and you know, I'm sure they're just gonna

524
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: echo her feelings. And then Grant says that it's unfair

525
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 1: if he goes into a date and doesn't give one

526
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 1: hundred percent of himself. Carolina says she doesn't have a

527
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: lot of hope going to tonight. She feels defeated, and

528
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 1: then we have this moment between Dina and Carolina where

529
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: Dina says that she knows that she's being misunderstood. Dina's

530
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: crying on behalf of Carolina. She's saying, I see you,

531
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: I see you, and they have this hug and you've

532
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: if you've been like watching really carefully, you can see

533
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: that the two of them do have this friendship throughout

534
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: the house.

535
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna.

536
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: End next week because Dina has this moment with Carolina

537
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: by the stairs and she's like, ah, if you're gonna

538
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: go see Grant one more time, like you're out of

539
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: your mind.

540
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm the f I'm crazy. I'm just crazy. Yeah.

541
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: So I think their friendship is going to end. But

542
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: I do think this is a sweet supportive moment for Dina,

543
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: and she is seeing what we see the girl was.

544
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: I can't get over the fact the girl was told

545
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: last week that he was thinking of someone else's dirty

546
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: dance while dirty dancing with her, that was.

547
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: An appropriate time to have alone time.

548
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: She is getting from what I got. I know it's

549
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 1: I just have to keep reiterating from what we're seeing.

550
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: I think she's getting the shit end of the stick.

551
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: I think the girls are being overly dramatic. I think

552
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: they needed to come up with a villain, so they're

553
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: coming up with where they're coming up with Carolina. So

554
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm glad to see her getting a little support in

555
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: the moment from Dina.

556
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 5: It's definitely one of It's a good moment because it's

557
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 5: nice that someone has Carolina's back. So it's not the

558
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 5: entire house against her. So it was a nice moment

559
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 5: for Dina. But if Carolina really burns Dina next week,

560
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 5: like we're seeing the coming attractions, I mean, that's her

561
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 5: burning her last bridge, and then she's gonna have no

562
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 5: one left but Grant, and he's probably gonna sent her

563
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 5: home on an island, and then she's gonna have to

564
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 5: confront all these girls that the women sell all and

565
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 5: that'll be tough for her as well. So I'm rooting

566
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 5: for Carolina. I think maybe where she misstepped, like I

567
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 5: said earlier, is just by oversharing and maybe being a

568
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 5: little too emotional at times. Other than that, like she's

569
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 5: had a lot up against her.

570
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 2: Yes, we will.

571
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: I will continue to give Dina the I mean I

572
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: will continue to give Carolina the benefit of the doubt

573
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: until Dina doesn't. I feel like I am team Dina

574
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: because she has her head on straight.

575
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 4: Now.

576
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: The craziest part of the entire.

577
00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: Episode to me is Rose and Carolina, because she goes,

578
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: I confided in you, and then you use that information

579
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: against me. Your actions set my relationship back. You sabotaged me,

580
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: you did mean dirty, you backstabbed me, it was nutty.

581
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, let's pull back for a minute.

582
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: You told someone, Hey, the guy that we're dating was

583
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: thinking about me when you were straddling him.

584
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: Okay, and you think.

585
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: That was an okay thing to say out loud to

586
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: the person. And now you're gonna make her seem like

587
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: the bad guy for wanting clarity. She spiral was this

588
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: crazy bachelor stuff. The way she looked at her, you

589
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: did me dirty?

590
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: Are you are out of your mind? Okay?

591
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 5: Well it was because it seemed like her and Grants

592
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 5: threw things over. They had a conversation about moving on.

593
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 5: Grant still kept her last week, even though he was

594
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 5: mad at her. I thought they would have closure on

595
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 5: the conversation this week and maybe clarify what was said

596
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 5: and what wasn't.

597
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 4: They really didn't dive into it.

598
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 5: So that's kind of frustrating because he did say it,

599
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 5: so Rose ended up getting.

600
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: So you think that you think that he said it,

601
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: So this is this is this is a great conversation

602
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: right here.

603
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: Did he say it or did he or did she

604
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: misinterpret it?

605
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 4: Well? I guess it's both.

606
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 5: There is a clip going around where basically he said

607
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 5: that he never said Carolina's name. He just said he

608
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 5: was thinking about her while he was dancing, so it

609
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 5: was more of a general statement, and it seemed like

610
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 5: no one ever inserted Carolina's name into there except for

611
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 5: Carolina or Rose. That's that's why the off camera conversation

612
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 5: is confusing.

613
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if, like a lot of the missing

614
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: puzzle pieces over the season, has just been like them

615
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: letting these girls chat unmiked too often, too many bathroom conversations,

616
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: too many, too many bunk conversations. Like you said, we

617
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: used to be miked if we were chatty at all,

618
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: they were like they came to us with our mics.

619
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: I wonder if they don't have a lot. But the

620
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: weird thing is, I don't know. I think there's booms

621
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: in every room where, Like they can at least show

622
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: the footage from the top and like put close captioning

623
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: underneath it, Like I would love some close captioning, like

624
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: hidden camera stuff.

625
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 4: I don't think they're doing that anymore.

626
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 5: They haven't done that this season, or maybe they've changed

627
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 5: the rules recently. I don't think they're being as basis

628
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 5: with the filming. They don't show people in the bedrooms anymore.

629
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the bedroom conversations are key.

630
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 5: They're gone, and I think that's what's missing in the

631
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 5: Rose and Carolina context and why we don't really know

632
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 5: who is right until we get to the women tell

633
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 5: all and see them hash it out.

634
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: This happened last season too, with Joey's season. It was like, well,

635
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: what was actually said? We need the footage, And I

636
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: would always argue that, like they had the footage, they

637
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: just didn't want to give it to us because they

638
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: wanted the narrative that they wanted to go with, right.

639
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 5: But I think with Rose it's like, I think her

640
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 5: relationship was set back because her and Grant were not

641
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 5: able to overcome that. And maybe you can partially blame Carolina,

642
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 5: but like, what is she supposed to do after what

643
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 5: you said to her off camera? Like, of course she's

644
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 5: going to bring it up. So Rose kind of did

645
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 5: this to herself and she's blaming Carolina for her demise,

646
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 5: and she spiraled and she went home and maybe she

647
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 5: should have had a conversation with Grant about it, but

648
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 5: it seemed like she just started crying and just needed

649
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 5: to leave. Do you think there was more to that

650
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 5: that was cut of her meltdown.

651
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: I actually don't.

652
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: I think she just like probably knew it wasn't going

653
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: to be her. She felt so behind. She's like, there's

654
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: no catching up. I would rather take the power and

655
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: be the one to leave than get dumped at the

656
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: rose ceremony. And I understand that dumping at a rose

657
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: ceremony is like the ultimate demoralization.

658
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 5: Really, I feel like I would want to like get

659
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 5: dumped at a rose ceremony because it's like part of

660
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 5: the show, Like it's like you have to commit to it.

661
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm all of my four seasons, I never left at

662
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: a rose ceremony. I did technically in season three of

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Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise, and then I.

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Speaker 2: Came back right. So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of it, like you know,

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Speaker 1: how you want to be the person to break up

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Speaker 1: with somebody when you feel like the relationships on the Fritz,

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Speaker 1: there's just a way to bring back your power. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I think that I don't think there

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Speaker 1: was much more to it other than the fact that

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Speaker 1: she was feeling very behind. But you know what, it

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Speaker 1: was funny I was thinking when she was like, I.

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Speaker 2: Just want to go home. I just want to go home.

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Speaker 1: I was like, of all my seasons, I never said

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go home.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I want to be here.

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Speaker 1: There was a time on Bachelor in Paradise three where

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Speaker 1: I was like I should go home. Nobody why I

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Speaker 1: think I should probably go home. That's different then I

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Speaker 1: want to go home. I was like, I made a

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Speaker 1: huge mistake in coming here anyway.

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Speaker 2: All right now, I'm just reminiscing.

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Speaker 1: All right, well next week we see and like you said, yes, Parisa,

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Speaker 1: Natalie go home to me. That's not a shocking thing

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Speaker 1: at all. Parisa in the Rocks, she probably had some

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Speaker 1: hope because he gave her a gift that she was

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Speaker 1: going to stick around.

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Speaker 4: I'm sad for her. I wanted her one more week.

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Speaker 1: Really, she's so ridiculous. But I'm sure she's not as

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Speaker 1: ridiculous in her life. You know, they just made her

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Speaker 1: like the silly character.

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Speaker 4: She was a little silly. I was sure the power point,

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Speaker 4: the cat.

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Speaker 1: The power point was definitely her silliest of things.

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Speaker 5: Just her fashion. She was just always different. Natalie was

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Speaker 5: a little boring from the beginning, and she just did

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Speaker 5: not do anything.

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Speaker 1: Natalie had the kid with the kids going on, you

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Speaker 1: know her. Her being so good with the kids at

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Speaker 1: the basketball game was her standout moment.

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Speaker 5: I think got it. Natalie and Dina looked alike in

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Speaker 5: my opinion.

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Speaker 2: I see that. I see that.

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Speaker 1: So next week they're going to Scotland, Julianna is going

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Speaker 1: to have her one on one and uh, we have

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Speaker 1: the moment with Carolina on the steps where she said,

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Speaker 1: what was the words that you said?

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Speaker 5: You got it right, you did I'm the villain. What

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Speaker 5: Dina said, you did me dirty? I Uh what Dina

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Speaker 5: said to Carolina, if you're going to.

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Speaker 2: Guess I'm I guess I'm crazy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, call me crazed or call me insane. Yeah, because

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Speaker 5: she's going to talk to Grant again. And that's why

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Speaker 5: the girls are so mad at Carolina, because she just

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Speaker 5: monopolizes all the time.

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Speaker 4: She just steals him the most.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's definitely gonna go home next week.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be at a rose ceremony. I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to have some conversation and she's gonna

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Speaker 1: slip out the back door.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be wild.

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Speaker 1: Alrighty well, Zach, thank you so much for joining us,

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Speaker 1: and tell everybody where they can find you.

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Speaker 2: And all your goodies like you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Love it all right, Thanks Zach, We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: We love you as a fellain.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, bye, guys.

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Speaker 2: Tail that I've been, Ashley, I've been Zach.

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Speaker 4: Bye.

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