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Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Hey everybody,

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Speaker 1: it's the almost famous OG's podcast. This is Trista and today. Wow,

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Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about the Golden Bachelor

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Speaker 1: season two finale and AFR was just last night. I

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Speaker 1: don't know when this episode is coming out, but it

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Speaker 1: was recent. I could not think of anyone. I actually

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Speaker 1: couldn't think of anyone better to recap the episode with

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Speaker 1: and discuss all of what happened on Golden Bachelor Season one.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome Teresa Nist. All right, So, Teresa, you were

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Speaker 1: there in the audience last night, and I assume because

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Speaker 1: you were in the audience that you watched the whole season.

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Speaker 1: What were your overall thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I watched the whole season. I will say that

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Speaker 2: this season was so different from season one, and I

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Speaker 2: was trying to try to understand why, and I think

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Speaker 2: it was that we were so emotionally involved with season

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Speaker 2: one and why not. Only I know that there was

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Speaker 2: loss on this one and that's very sad, but on ours,

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Speaker 2: not only did the lead lose his wife, but there

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Speaker 2: was so many women who lost their spouses and Leslie

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Speaker 2: lost her dad. And I was when I came home.

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Speaker 2: I was watching the episode and I was blown away

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Speaker 2: because if you'll recall, it starts out where there's complete silence,

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Speaker 2: and then Gary puts in his hearing aid and then

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Speaker 2: they have Kat Stevens the wind and it's phenomenal and

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Speaker 2: it immediately like sucks you in. And so the lead

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Speaker 2: was emotional. The whole experience was just emotional. So this

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Speaker 2: one it just it just seemed like Mel was very guarded,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's a popular opinion that he held

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Speaker 1: Totally agree. That is such a good way to put it.

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Speaker 1: Your season was emotional. There was emotion in it, you know,

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Speaker 1: like we were all emotional going along for the ride

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Speaker 1: and knowing that Gary had lost his wife and you

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Speaker 1: know so many people had as well and went through

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Speaker 1: all of you know, all of these ups and downs.

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Speaker 1: You're so right. That definitely puts a lot in perspective

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Speaker 1: for me because I have been thinking about what was missing,

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Speaker 1: and that is a great way, great way to put it.

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Speaker 1: He was very guarden and I think we were just

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Speaker 1: talking about this before you came on or before we

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Speaker 1: opened up that I think now after talking to Heather,

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Speaker 1: our producer, that he was so guarded because he spoke

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Speaker 1: before the show even started about how he wanted to

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Speaker 1: have you know, women forty five to sixty on that podcast,

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Speaker 1: and I think because there was such a lash, you know,

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Speaker 1: people were were not happy with that statement. I think

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Speaker 1: he because he said something and he was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't say exactly what's on my mind because it

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Speaker 1: will be used against me.

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Speaker 2: You are so right, So he was so afraid to

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Speaker 2: say anything. You're right, trus yes, So he was censoring everything.

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Speaker 2: He was saying, my gosh, don't say that, even if

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking that that's the wrong thing to say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I think he was really And I do

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Speaker 1: empathize with that or sympathize with that because for my season,

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Speaker 1: you know, being the first bachelorette, I had a lot

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Speaker 1: across as a whore because it's her in twenty five

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Speaker 1: guys instead of one guy twenty five girls, which I'm like, whatever, Wow. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: so I was called every name in the book, and

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Speaker 1: I think I went into it and did the opposite

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Speaker 1: and was like, I'm not gonna kiss anybody like right

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Speaker 1: out the gate, you know, I'm gonna try to try

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Speaker 1: to be aged. And I feel like in a way,

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Speaker 1: Obviously it all worked out for me. But I think

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Speaker 1: it makes sense why if something happens like that, you

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Speaker 1: feel like, oh crap, I can't I can't truly speak

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Speaker 2: To start the whole thing. And maybe he looked at

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Speaker 2: what Gary did, like Gary said I love you to

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Speaker 2: through his mind and censoring himself. And so you're right,

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Speaker 2: I didn't think of your perspective.

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Speaker 1: But it's also interesting because I don't know that he

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, Yeah, I think you're right, Like he wouldn't. He

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Speaker 2: very guarded. It almost seems sometimes like he's there against

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Speaker 2: with the program. And so I am sure a great

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Speaker 2: So it's too bad that happened. And I'm sorry that

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Speaker 2: You probably thought no one was going to hear that,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I do feel like also he

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Speaker 1: going into the Golden Bachelor and we're talking about women

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Speaker 1: in their golden years and people like you and Leslie

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Speaker 1: and all the people from this season and all the

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Speaker 1: people from last season, like you shouldn't be you should

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Speaker 1: be put in your place if you're an agist, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like I think it was right that people felt, I mean,

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Speaker 1: please all of the women, pretty much, every single one

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Speaker 1: of them, when they came out of the limo, they

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Speaker 1: that was not appropriate. But I think he got a

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Speaker 2: No, I say it right. I think enough of the

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Speaker 2: women said something and then he was roasted, so I

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Speaker 2: think he paid his yeares.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, agreed. Okay, So were you surprised about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was surprised that they asked Gary for his opinion,

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Speaker 2: so just kidding. No, honestly, it's my opinion than no.

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Speaker 1: No, hey, hey, you have every right to see that girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: I would think that maybe I was surprised by Cindy

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Speaker 2: saying like backing out, but you know what, I was

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Speaker 2: whole audience is feeling sorry for Peg. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: they handled that so well. They didn't make it.

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Speaker 1: You think Mel handled it well, okay, and Peg got it.

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Speaker 2: Right, and that it seemed to be she was meant

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Speaker 2: I think the whole audience may have been afraid that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree with that. I am very

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Speaker 1: very happy for peg. I love her and I have

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Speaker 1: everyone deserves love. I just have to say, and I

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Speaker 1: am definitely interested to get your thoughts, especially because I

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Speaker 1: want to hear how the audience reacted. But what went

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt the same way you mean, you mean

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Speaker 2: from Mel's perspective.

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Speaker 1: Yes, for what he did, Like I you know, she

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Speaker 1: on the beach on the dock, you know, she's saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, I envisioned us committing to each other. You know,

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Speaker 1: she was talking about how she was going to move

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Speaker 1: And then when they were on stage, I felt like

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Speaker 1: when she said, sorry, I'm talking so much, I'm just

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Speaker 1: so rived up about the episode. So when she said

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Speaker 1: love with her. You know, that's what all of us want,

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Speaker 1: right exactly, That's.

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Speaker 2: What we all want. But it could have been that

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Speaker 2: he decided in his mind that there was no way

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Speaker 2: And I think in his mind, and I know, and

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Speaker 2: do totally agree with her that that was She went

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Speaker 2: I don't think that there's necessarily a wedding or a

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Speaker 2: think who knows what would have happened if they went

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Speaker 2: that could have happened. So but she decided she wasn't

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Speaker 2: and she has every right to feel that this she

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Speaker 2: was he deterred by what happened on a previous season?

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Speaker 2: Did that happen to him? Did he say, I don't

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Speaker 2: to make any promises. I can't keep and I really

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Speaker 2: do think perhaps if she had just let things go

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Speaker 2: have worked out. But then again, I don't blame her

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Speaker 2: and and saying what she said, and that was right

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Speaker 2: for her, and that was true for her, and so

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Speaker 2: she left, and I felt that he thought there was

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Speaker 2: no way I could get her back. She was very determined,

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Speaker 2: and maybe he also did want to be rejected twice too,

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Speaker 1: Doom may Yeah, yeah, true. No. I just feel like, yes,

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Speaker 1: she said no, but part of me thinks that she

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Speaker 1: didn't just say no because he didn't want the commitment

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Speaker 1: in the end that she was looking for. I think

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Speaker 1: also it seemed like on that doc that she was

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Speaker 1: looking for anything from him to say, I am excited

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Speaker 2: Well, we were sitting. We were so lucky we were

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Speaker 1: I'm all about my family, my Bachelor Nation family. I

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Speaker 2: No, that was great. We were so lucky that we

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I think it came up, Jones said,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Sondra was there too. Yes, I did see her. Yes,

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Speaker 1: dancing with the stars the night that you guys, because

437
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: I asked when the AFR was going to be filming

438
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: to see if I could see everybody, but it didn't

439
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: work out because it was the exact same night anyway,

440
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: So I get it. I get the jet lag. Okay,

441
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: So Gary was in the audience. Was it uncomfortable for

442
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: you to see him?

443
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 2: Well, it was uncomfortable when we were all mulling around

444
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: before we went into the audience, because once we were

445
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: in the audience, I was seated far enough away from them,

446
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: and there was one time when it almost seemed as

447
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: though he was headed straight towards me. I don't know

448
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: if he was, but at least he was headed towards

449
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: my group of people, and I just walked the other way.

450
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I didn't need to have an account encounter.

451
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 2: I want him to a wonderful life and live his

452
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: life and happy, but I don't have to be a

453
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: part of it.

454
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, I totally get that. Good for you. Yeah, okay.

455
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: Can I ask one question about the book? Is that okay?

456
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 1: And if you don't want to answer, you just you

457
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: just say shut it, Trista, you just you just put

458
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: me in my place.

459
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: I will say this that I did not plan to

460
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: talk about the book any anymore. But yes, please ask

461
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: me the question and we'll see that totally.

462
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: And and like I said, if you do not feel

463
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: comfortable answering, you know, you can tell me just I

464
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: would rather not, okay, I just want to know, yes,

465
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: if how you're feeling about well, actually I have two questions, sorry,

466
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: and you can say no to both of them or

467
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: yes to both of them however you feel okay, okay.

468
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: So he has been in the press talking about the

469
00:26:54,520 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: book doing you know, book tour stuff and basic you know,

470
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: discussed some things and I think there's a big he said.

471
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: She said, you know, like he'll say something and he's like,

472
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: oh no, she's not telling the truth. It's so you know,

473
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: there are, as they say, three sides to every story, right,

474
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: he said, she said, and every what everyone said, I

475
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, well, is there any is there anything

476
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: out there right now that you want to clarify that

477
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: he has said that is not truthful?

478
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 2: So I did have a podcast where I did. Oh,

479
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 2: I can say one more thing that he said that

480
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: was such. Oh, I'm sorry, man, I don't want to

481
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: go here. So honestly, when I read the book, I

482
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 2: kind of thought, was he there because does he remember

483
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: that I was there that I know exactly how it happened.

484
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: And it could have been that he had a faulty memory,

485
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: but I remember everything, so there was there. And I

486
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: will say this, nothing in the book he says about

487
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: me is true. Nothing, nothing that he describes, not one.

488
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: And I know you're going to say it's you said,

489
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: she said. And I didn't really mean to talk about

490
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: this anymore because I really don't want to do it.

491
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: But everything, you know, you've heard the stories about silly

492
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: things about the smoothies twelve dollars, they're not don't order

493
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: them every day, make them? Myself said, I didn't cook.

494
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: That's not true. I cook every single night. I pretty

495
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: much cook every night. But I don't know why Gary

496
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: felt the need to say bad things about me, except

497
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: to make himself look better. So I will tell you

498
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: one story. So I don't know if you know. He

499
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: says in the book that I took one look at him.

500
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: He had a shirt on, and I said, oh no.

501
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: I scolded him like a kindergarten teacher and said, oh no,

502
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: you're not wearing that shirt. I'm taking you right now

503
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: to Lululemon to get a new shirt. Did you read that?

504
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: Do you know that story?

505
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: I don't know this story, so tell us.

506
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: So that's a story, he says it that way. You

507
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: want to know how it really happened?

508
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: Yes, please, okay.

509
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: So we were lying on my couch. He had his

510
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: hand he had he had his hands on my feet.

511
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: I had my hands on his feet. I was looking

512
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: at my direct messages and I said, oh, Gary, there's

513
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: this girl who works at Lululemon and she knows you're

514
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: in town, and she says she would love to meet

515
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: you and get a photo with the three of us.

516
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: I said, do you want to go? He said, sure,

517
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: why not, we're not doing anything. So we go down

518
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: to Lululemon. We walk in. He looks at his shirt

519
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: on the rack. He says, do you think I should

520
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: try this on? I said, yes, sure, why not. We

521
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: go into the dressing room. We actually took photos of

522
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: each other having fun, and I put it on Instagram.

523
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: I've since taken it down. I don't know if he

524
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: still has it up and we're having so much fun.

525
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: I said, you look so good in it. He said,

526
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: do you think I should buy it? I said, yeah,

527
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: why not buy it? You look great. He goes outside

528
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: and he buys it. That's the Lululemon story. If there

529
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: was something where I said no, you shouldn't wear that shirt,

530
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: it could have happened, but I wouldn't be scolding him.

531
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: And maybe I said, oh, we're going to a really

532
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: nice restaurant, you might want to change your shirt. I

533
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: don't even remember that at all. I'm going to give

534
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: him the benefit of the doubt on that one and say,

535
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: maybe possibly that happened, but he put two stories together,

536
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: or if that was a story, and how could you

537
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 2: do that, you know that's not what happened. And you know,

538
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if you heard the other

539
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: podcast I was on where he says I handed him

540
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: sheets and a pillow and said, would you mind sleeping

541
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: on the couch. I have a big day at work tomorrow. Sure,

542
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: no problem. Were the words that came out of my mouth?

543
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: That's fiction. Those words never came out of my mouth.

544
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: Those words never came out of his mouth. I don't

545
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 2: know if if they decided to say it like that

546
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: to make it more dramatic. We slept together the first night.

547
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: I had dismantled my master bedroom. He said, I had

548
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: a two bedroom pass I didn't. If you can see

549
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: the bedroom way back there, this is the new bedroom

550
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 2: I made for Gary. I don't know if you can

551
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: see it, No, probably can't. I was sleeping in a

552
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: very small bedroom, in a very small bed. I had

553
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: not slept with anyone in nine years since my husband

554
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: passed away. And my husband was only five foot ten.

555
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: Gary's a bigger guy. I didn't sleep all night. He said,

556
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: how did you sleep? I said, I didn't sleep all night.

557
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: He said, oh, I can't sleep on the couch. If

558
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: you want me to, I said, oh my gosh, would you,

559
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, really, that'd be so great. I promise

560
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: you when you come back, I'm going to have a

561
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: king sized bed for us. I'm going to make up

562
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: the master bedroom again. And I'm telling you that's exactly

563
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: what happened. My daughter and I. I had ordered all

564
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: the linens, the beds, we put that together. I sent

565
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: him photos. I've got them in text. I said, you look,

566
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: we did this. He said, oh, but you didn't do

567
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: the window coverings. And I said, oh, but you're a handyman.

568
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: I thought you would do that with me. So I

569
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: don't want it to be a he said. She said,

570
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: I want him to look for life. I want him

571
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: to be happy. I'm just really disappointed that he really

572
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: it seems that he felt the need to say something

573
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: bad about me. Why I did it. Almost seems like

574
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: he thinks that I said anything bad about him, and

575
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: I never did. And I never would have said anything.

576
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: I would have taken this to my grave. I never

577
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: want to hurt another human being. I wanted him to

578
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: be happy. I really didn't want to hurt his daughters.

579
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 2: That was really really I said, I'm never I'm never

580
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: going to say anything. I don't want to hurt his daughters.

581
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: But and it's not like I tst. I have not

582
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: said anything. If you think I've said anything bad about him,

583
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: I haven't. I've only defended myself against everything he said.

584
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: I have so much I could say, I'll hold that inside.

585
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: I won't say it. I'm not saying it. Still haven't

586
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: said it. I've said two things about the cold cuts

587
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: and about the shed, and that's all I've said. There's more,

588
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: and I won't say it. I won't say so. I

589
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: think maybe it wasn't interesting enough the way it really happened,

590
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: So let's make it more interesting. And why tell everybody

591
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: I had a tiny house. I'm gonna cry, tell everybody

592
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: that I may make a final kissen who cares? Like?

593
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: Who cares? These are inconsequential things like who cares? Is

594
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: not even even people? I tell this to? Who cares?

595
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: If you even did buy a twelve dollars movie? Which

596
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: I don't? Who care? I do?

597
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: I do?

598
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: Why so many people do I like? And to say

599
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: I don't cook because Teresa never cooked? You know I

600
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: could cook. I cook. I cook it every night. I

601
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: just every night and make myself. I'm not even gonna

602
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: tell you, but roasted thatgetables and sweet potatoes and all

603
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: kinds of fish and grilled shrimp and so no, that's

604
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 2: not true. So I can you can if you ever

605
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: read the book. I can stand here and you can

606
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: tell me anything he said, and I will tell you

607
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 2: it's not true. There's not one thing that's true, any

608
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: disparaging remark. And the other thing was I think he

609
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: really felt that all the articles that were coming out

610
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: about him, that I was reading them and I wasn't.

611
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: So he was immersing himself in all of this bad news,

612
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: and a lot of it coming from a certain social

613
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: media platform which I will not name, that I won't

614
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 2: go on because it's so it's so depressing. I even

615
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: had my sister saying, oh my gosh, Jesus, do you

616
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: know what they're saying? There is no because I don't

617
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 2: read it. And I'd say, Mary, just don't read it.

618
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: Why should I read that stuff? So I think he

619
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: thought I was aware of all these bad things and

620
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: I wasn't defending him. But if you're not aware of

621
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: what's going on, and as you know, I don't know

622
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 2: what to say. It's in his mind it was way

623
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: different than it was, So you know, it wasn't the

624
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: right person for him just to admit that I was

625
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: the wrong person. He wanted someone else. He should have

626
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: done that. He should have gone with that other gone

627
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: with Leslie. He should have done it, be true to

628
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: your heart, and he made a decision of the head

629
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: and not the heart. What's that? Don't do that? And

630
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: that's when I said, I don't need a man to

631
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: do that for me, that I've been deeply loved my

632
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: entire life by my husband, and so don't do me

633
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: any favors. Why and like when you know and the

634
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: way it wound up, I mean, it was inevitable for

635
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: it to end up this way. And I could never

636
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: understand why he was being so mean to me. I

637
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: didn't understand why he didn't trust anything I did, and

638
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: going what did I do to not allow him to

639
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 2: trust me? The fact that he thought I was reading

640
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: a book. I didn't have a book at the mansion

641
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: that I was. I didn't ever read that book, and

642
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: that he imagined me curled up on the couch reading

643
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: that book and it got him sick to his stomach.

644
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: And now I also understand why when I was nominated

645
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 2: for a People's Choice Awards and I decided to go,

646
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: he said, oh, I'm surprised, but now I know he

647
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 2: thinks that I was in it for the fame and fortune,

648
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: and that's not me. That's not me at all, So

649
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: it just it all made sense when I I was

650
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: so I was so sad when I found out you

651
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: didn't really you didn't want me.

652
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, I know you were. I know you were. Hey,

653
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: thank you so much for opening up. I mean, our

654
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: listeners love you, and I wanted to give you an

655
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: opportunity to address but it has been so I don't.

656
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't mean to put you on the spot. I

657
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: just wanted to give you the opportunity to speak to

658
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: what has been being said. You know.

659
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, And honestly, I really don't. I really

660
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: never planned on saying another word about it. So I

661
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: just I guess because I like you so much and

662
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm talking to you that I'm opening

663
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: up to you. Thank you really well, I know you

664
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: talk about it again.

665
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand. We are done. Thank you, and thank

666
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: you for sharing. Thank you for opening up and being

667
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: vulnerable and telling us what happened. Okay, I want to

668
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: talk Let's switch gears. Let's talk about PEG. So what

669
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: were what were your feelings of PEG like through the

670
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: entire season. I have mine I'll share with you in

671
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: a second, But what were your feelings on Peg.

672
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so before the season started, I thought it was

673
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 2: I actually picked Cindy. But then as soon as.

674
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: You did, I did like she was if you had brackets,

675
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: like we actually did brackets, yes, And did you do

676
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: a bracket? No?

677
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: I didn't do it, but I think, Okay, I don't know. Yeah,

678
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: I just thought it was Cindy. And I loved every

679
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: one of the women. But I just thought it was Cindy.

680
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: But then when they their day date Peg and Mel,

681
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: I said, oh, it's Peg. I said the way he

682
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: lit up, the way he got excited, the way they

683
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 2: interpreted it, and they danced and they had so much fun.

684
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: I was sure it was Peg. So they're both phenomenal women,

685
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 2: incredible women. They're so bright and funny and smart and

686
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: engaging and well, I mean, they couldn't have picked better women.

687
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: You should get to know these women. Well. They were

688
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: really tall though they grow a lot of them were

689
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: from California.

690
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: They are I felt like this.

691
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: Tiny, tiny person. They're so tall and so oh my gosh,

692
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: they were. You should see some of them. They're amazing.

693
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: So I really do think that it was meant to

694
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: be that he would be with Peg. I just saw

695
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: that chemistry there and you know, so it was it

696
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: was close there. But even though Cindy's the one that

697
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: took herself out of it, I think that it was

698
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: meant to be. And I really do think, you know,

699
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: maybe he's he was gun shy and he doesn't think

700
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: that he can end this in a marriage, but who

701
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: knows what's going to happen, and Peg is leaving her

702
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: heart open for any possibility. And when you have that

703
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 2: and you've got that acceptance that just might happen. Who knows.

704
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: And every time they've done this, we've only done it

705
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: three times. Now you have season one, you've got The Bachelorette,

706
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: and you've got this season two. It's been done a

707
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: different way. I think the first season we thought that

708
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: it had to end in a marriage. I think that

709
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: that was we said this before and then Joan Joan

710
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: learned from my season, I do think because she took

711
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: a stand and she was very right about so many things.

712
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: She didn't want beds in the fantasy suites. Kudos to her,

713
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: and she didn't say she loved many people, and she

714
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: just keyed it on the one person and they don't

715
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: live together and they're making it work and it works,

716
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: And now you've got mellow saying, I'm just giving you

717
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: a commitment ring. I'm not even giving you an engagement ring.

718
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: But who knows what's going to happen when you leave

719
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: your heart open. We'll see. Maybe they'll be the most

720
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: successful ones who knows it's love.

721
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: Well, they can't be. They can't be because they just

722
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: been and I've been married to my husband for almost

723
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: twenty two But anyway.

724
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 2: I know they can't and they're so old it can

725
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: never bet.

726
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: No, that's not what I meant, but you know what

727
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Yes, love peg. I loved her energy. I

728
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: obviously I love that she is connected to the fire department,

729
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: like I think she's a badass. I love that she

730
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: is so connected to her family, like that is a

731
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: value of hers And obviously Mel shares that in the

732
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: love he has for his sons, So I love that

733
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: they have that in common. They just do feel like

734
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: very like fun loving and youthful and you know open.

735
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: Although it was really funny, I have to go back

736
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: to the episode where he was driving the like dune

737
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: buggy thing and she's like, oh my gosh, could you

738
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: please put the pedal to the medal. Come on, she

739
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: took the wheel. Yeah, I loved that. That was so cute.

740
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: You know what, he's a football player. Maybe he's saying, Okay, now,

741
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to get hit or hurt anymore. Like

742
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm doone, I'm not getting hurt.

743
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: And you know what, actually, what is it called like

744
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: concussion syndrome or whatever, where like Ryan dealt with that

745
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: playing in the in the NFL, and he didn't play

746
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: as long as mel did, not even close. So maybe

747
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: there's like maybe there is like concussion symptoms or something

748
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: going on there where he's like, yeah, I do not

749
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: want to get hurt. I'm not falling out of this dune, buggy,

750
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna going to go ten miles an hour.

751
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: I think so. And you didn't want to go near

752
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: the sting ray the.

753
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right.

754
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: You might have grown way cautious in his oldier years

755
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: because he's gone through so much.

756
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: So well, I think that Peg is going to change that.

757
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that she is going to be like, dude,

758
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: we're together and we're going to live this life and

759
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: we're going to have fun. So come on, I don't

760
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: care about the Sting Rays and the Dune Buggies.

761
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: Let's go.

762
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so, so this is not I thought it was

763
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: one one of the only times that this has happened.

764
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: But before we started this podcast, we were chatting about

765
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: how many people have actually not committed to each other

766
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: after the show, and there are quite a few people,

767
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: including Jesse, which I was like, oh my gosh, that's right.

768
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

769
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: So I know, and he didn't mention it last night,

770
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: probably because he doesn't want to bring attention to it.

771
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: But Bob, my co host, is also one of those

772
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: people who gave who gave a promise ring and you

773
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: know what, Heather, do you actually I'll just read it

774
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: from I have it on our text, so I'll pull

775
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: it up. Heather. Okay. So Bob Guiney, my amazing co host,

776
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: gave us a little something that we could quote him

777
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: in saying that I would read back to you all.

778
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: So here we go. He said, no, I was not

779
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: contractually obligated to give a ring. At the end of

780
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: my season of The Bachelor. We asked him if he

781
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: was contractually obligated. He said, I really didn't feel comfortable

782
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: proposing at that point, so to me, the promise. Ring

783
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: was my way of showing Estella and everyone else that

784
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: we were going to give things a try without the

785
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: cameras around. And you know, he said that, and that

786
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: actually makes me remember that Alex Michelle, who was the

787
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: very first bachelor that broke my heart, he said the

788
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: exact same thing to Amanda that he wanted to give

789
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: a try, you know, on their relationship without the cameras around.

790
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,959
Speaker 1: So there's something to it. And Bob said, and see

791
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: what we could build. It obviously didn't work out for

792
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: us as a couple, but we're both happily married now,

793
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: so yay, Yes, it always does work out, you know,

794
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: like however it's supposed to work out. I sometimes and

795
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: I'm watching and this happens, I'm like, but it really

796
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: doesn't have to end in an engagement to be successful.

797
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: I just I feel like, and tell me what you

798
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: were feeling knowing that this happened last night being in

799
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: the audience, because it kind of everything that it happened

800
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: with him and Cindy and how I felt like he

801
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: didn't take accountability and really like just compliment her and

802
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: say the same things that she was saying to him,

803
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: which she said, you know, I want you to be happy,

804
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: and he didn't say anything like that, you know, like

805
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: so when he wasn't saying those same things and kind

806
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: of lifting her up and saying he could have said,

807
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that that happened. I had stronger feelings

808
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: for Peg and I just wasn't ready to go there.

809
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I wish we could have talked about

810
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: it behind closed doors, but I do want you to

811
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: be happy or whatever, you know what I mean. So

812
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: that put a really bad taste in my mouth. And

813
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: then knowing that they didn't get engaged after that, I

814
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: kind of was like, well, bummer, Like I feel like

815
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: the ladies, like they all left their lives to come

816
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: on the show and then we don't even have an engagement.

817
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: But I will say other seasons when this has happened,

818
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: I don't care as much because it is a television show,

819
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: and if people are not ready, then they're not ready.

820
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: Like there's no reason to pressure yourself to get engaged

821
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: if you're not ready. So I give it up usually

822
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: to the people who know that they're not ready and

823
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: have the wherewithal and their wits about them to know

824
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: what they want and what they need and if that's

825
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: not something that they want then standing up to the

826
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: show saying no, I'm not ready to go there, but

827
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: here's a promise. Ring. But then last night I just

828
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: had this bad taste in my mouth after everything that

829
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: went down with Cindy, and I was kind of like, well, eh,

830
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: I'm not so thrilled that they didn't get engaged, you

831
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

832
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. I really I think that they were

833
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 2: both aligned and they felt the same way. And I

834
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 2: really do think that she's giving him grace, so peg

835
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: is giving mel grace that maybe he's just afraid. And

836
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: I really feel like it's going to get there, and

837
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: I think it's going to work out that way. And

838
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 2: I think that if she really felt the same way

839
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: he did, and if she forced the issue and said no,

840
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: I have to get engaged, like they wouldn't be where

841
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: they are, and he probably maybe he would have walked away.

842
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: I think because she's allowing him the freedom to choose

843
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: because he doesn't feel comfortable, that he most likely will

844
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: get there because now he's a woman who really understands that.

845
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: And it was and I totally really agree with Cindy too,

846
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: because that was how she felt and she should not

847
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 2: put up with what something she doesn't want to do.

848
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: So I think that it was I really think this

849
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: was the most exciting episode of the entire season. So

850
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: you had Cindy standing up for herself for what she

851
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: believed in, and then you had Hell and Peg going

852
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: forward with what they believed in. And maybe Peg really

853
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: did feel the same way Mel did. It seemed like

854
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: she did. And now they were able to say he

855
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: said I'm in love with her and she said I'm

856
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: in love with him. So wow, they get there. So

857
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, all about freedom. I'm all about never trying

858
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: to force anyone to do something that they don't want

859
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: to do. Do what makes you happy. And I know

860
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 2: that you would think that too, and I'm sorry that

861
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: you did feel disappointed that it didn't get there. But

862
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: then the people who feel that way feel Okay. I'm

863
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: sure there are people who felt pressured, and maybe Gary

864
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: did to feel like he had to end it in

865
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 2: any when it really should not have been, and maybe

866
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: he should have taken a stand and said I wasn't

867
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: ready for this, And so there is that pressure at

868
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: the end being in that situation. All of America wants

869
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: an engagement. They're looking for a wedding. They want this stuff,

870
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: and so we can't disappoint America. We can't do it

871
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: on a love story. They want this to happen. So

872
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 2: you know, I understand that about Gary feeling that way.

873
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 2: I get it.

874
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

875
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, And he was.

876
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: The first, so I'm sure there was pressure from production

877
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: saying like you're the first, you need to like establish

878
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 1: the ground rules that we really want people to find love,

879
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, and and the indicator for that is an

880
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: engagement you know, in some in some ways. So okay,

881
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: So so, uh tell me? Is uh peg wearing the

882
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: ring on her left hand?

883
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: Yes? I read that she put it on her left hand,

884
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: and I think it's really she put it on her

885
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 2: left hand.

886
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: So it doesn't that mean that it's an engagement ring?

887
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: Like I'm confused. Isn't a prop? Are you supposed to

888
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: wear a promise ring like around your neck? Or I

889
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know the rules.

890
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: When I was sixteen and I were it on my lefeh,

891
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: I know what the rules are, honest, Yeah, I mean

892
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 2: I guess who cares?

893
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: Who cares? Bob? Did have Estella wear her ring on

894
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: her right hand? So maybe that's where I'm getting it from.

895
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe not that it means anything, like

896
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: they can do what they want if they're if that's

897
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: where she wants to wear it, And to be quite honest,

898
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: I feel like the sizes of my fingers are different

899
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: on both.

900
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: Hands, a different. I actually can fit my wedding band

901
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 2: on this thing, but I can't even get it down

902
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: here on.

903
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: This thing exactly. So maybe that's why she's wearing it

904
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: on her left hand. Who knows? And what do you

905
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: think about this? If they get engaged, will she get

906
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: a new ring?

907
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't think so. I mean that's it. I

908
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: think Meehlane designed that one with the hope that Nitia

909
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 2: turns into an engagement ring that you can now now

910
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 2: you're going in an engagement. I don't know what would

911
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: she do? Give it back and say I want a

912
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: more spectacular ring, because now.

913
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: I mean it is pretty spectacular, I will say so.

914
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: The stats on it, like People Magazine did a thing

915
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: on Instagram and they featured it. I think they said

916
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: it was like three three carrots total or something like that.

917
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's amazing you that's a half carrots. Yeah,

918
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: so I had to look up what my ring was

919
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: because I don't have it on right now. But my

920
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: Valerieul ring that I got from Nee Lane and it

921
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: was it's like for something.

922
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: So I was like, wow, oh wow, that's amazing.

923
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: No, I don't say it for that reason, but I'm like, I, okay, well,

924
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: at least I got like a four carrot ring and

925
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: instead of like a I mean a three and a

926
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: half carrot pramise ring. Wow, amazing, amazing, it is amazing.

927
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: I think, isn't that amazing? Like, oh my god, he's

928
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: a lucky gal.

929
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: It's gorgeous.

930
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: So it is gorgeous. I love cushion, yes, and I

931
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: have a platinum ring, and I love platinum. But I

932
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: love kind of the trend that I'm seeing that there

933
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: are more What was yours?

934
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: You know what I don't when you're I think it

935
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 2: was way way more like.

936
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: Maybe No, no, I mean gold or platinum.

937
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: Oh it was platinum. It's fun.

938
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, I thought you right.

939
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: You didn't even remember if I get it back and

940
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: had to give it back, So.

941
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: You did you? So if it's if you are together

942
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: for a year, is that what the marker is and

943
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: you get to keep it.

944
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: No that they didn't actually ask me for it. I

945
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: just felt guilty. I knew that was the wall. So

946
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: I contacted them. I said, do I have to give

947
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: you this ring back? Because I was afraid it was

948
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: going to lose it and then they're going to say

949
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: where's the ring? Oh I don't know, so I think it.

950
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: Well, good for you for reaching out. That is called integrity.

951
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 1: Thank you integrity. Yes, I love that they.

952
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: Got it back. I said, well, send me an envelope.

953
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: What is it? What do I have to do?

954
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: I know, what do I do? Do I have to

955
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: hand deliver it or are you going to bring a

956
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: bodyguard or what?

957
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 2: And I said, did you get it? Did you get it?

958
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: Tell me you got it? Oh?

959
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: That is nerve wrecking. I will say. I had like

960
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: a couple diamonds had not the not the center diamond,

961
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: but a couple of the like pave diamonds had come out.

962
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: So I had talked to Neil Lane about them fixing it,

963
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: and they were gonna have me send it in the mail.

964
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: And I was so stressed out about that. Yes, I

965
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if I like that. I

966
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: kind of want to fly to la and like give

967
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: it to you there.

968
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wear it and that, but did you

969
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 2: really send it? Did you send it back? No?

970
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: I ended up doing something else. But but yeah, we

971
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: didn't have to worry about that. Okay, So give me

972
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: a comment on this. Peg says Mel doesn't have integrity,

973
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: he is integrity, and I guess do you remember that

974
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: being said?

975
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: I remember that what he said after that?

976
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: No? No, do you remember the crowd's reactions? Yes?

977
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh they thought it was phenomenal. That was a

978
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: great statement they did. I'm sure that that is so

979
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: true about that about Mel. Sorry Meg, Meg, Meg, No,

980
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: if she had to say that, that means she knows

981
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 2: this man so well and he has such high integrity.

982
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 2: I have a feeling we're just not seeing Mel. We're

983
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: not seeing the full Mel, and maybe sometime in the

984
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 2: future we will. And I have a feeling he's this

985
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: funny guy. It was really fun loving and really energetic

986
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: and outgoing, and you know, and if anybody's going to

987
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: bring him out of his shell, if he needs to

988
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 2: be brought out of a shell, it's going to be Peg.

989
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: So I just think that we just didn't get to

990
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: know him.

991
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I think that was good for you

992
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: for giving him the benefit of the doubt. I still

993
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: am a little sour about how he treated Cindy, but

994
00:55:50,120 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, I know, Okay, so let's change gears. So

995
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: they did the whole Taylor, Frankie Paul sit down with Jesse.

996
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: Did you they showed you that right during?

997
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 2: Okay?

998
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So how first of all, how did you feel

999
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: when they announced her as bachelorette?

1000
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: Oh? So excited? I really, I think, yes, I'm so excited.

1001
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: So of course they you know, they had to do

1002
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: something different, and now to have someone like this just

1003
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: brings a whole different element to it, and all of

1004
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: her followers will follow her, and I think it's just

1005
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: very exciting. I'm excited to see it. I think I

1006
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 2: think that everyone's going to be so excited to see this,

1007
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: so making us wait too. It's not till March, so

1008
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: it's a very long time.

1009
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I will say that I felt like I

1010
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: was shocked in the beginning, just because I haven't watched

1011
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: Mormon Wives, and I know what I knew of her

1012
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: was just that she is like controversial, you know, and

1013
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: and it seems like she speaks her mind and she's

1014
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: like listen, this is what's up, you know, which I love.

1015
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm all for female empowerment. And obviously she comes, like

1016
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: you said, with a following already. And I had always

1017
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: said I would love for someone to be plucked out

1018
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: of obscurity and not from like you know, reused from

1019
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: past seasons and not reused. I guess it's not the

1020
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: appropriate word, but you know, plucked from a past season,

1021
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: someone that we could all fall in love with together,

1022
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: and that I felt like was part of why Golden

1023
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: was so magical, was because we could all fall in

1024
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: love with Gary and all of you at the same

1025
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: time together. And this is kind of that because she's

1026
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: being plucked not out of Bachelor Nation, but out of

1027
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a you know, ABC show or

1028
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: a Hulu show, the whole family of ABC. And and

1029
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: I do love that. And I will say the sit

1030
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: down with Jesse, and I've been following her since it

1031
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: was announced, and I'm so excited. I think that it is.

1032
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: Like Jesse said last night, it's going to be a

1033
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: wild ride because she is gonna, you know, put the

1034
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: guys in their place. Like I loved that she was

1035
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: giggling about how she did like put the What did

1036
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: Jesse say about.

1037
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: She sent somebody Home?

1038
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: Yes, that too. Yes, Yes, she's not gonna like deal.

1039
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: She's gonna, you know, call it like it is. And

1040
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: I love that. I'm really excited for that.

1041
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: And her interview alone was just so real and vulnerable. Yes, yes,

1042
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be exciting, she said. Yeah,

1043
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: she said, even if I hear something, I'm just going

1044
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: to let them go. But she said that she's already falling,

1045
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: you know, for people, and that she's surprised.

1046
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: I know. I love that. I love that she is

1047
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: open to it. You know that she's ready and willing

1048
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: and and she will the one thing I said, not

1049
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: one thing I said. But I think one of the

1050
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: really good things about Taylor is you know that she's

1051
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: going to just shoot straight from the hip. She's going

1052
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: to tell it like it is. She is going to

1053
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: bring you all along for the ride, bring us all

1054
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: along for the ride. So I am so excited.

1055
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm predicted love it. We won't know what's going

1056
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 2: to happen, right, that'll be the part of it.

1057
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: That's a great word.

1058
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 2: Yes, But nothing will happen until March, so they'll be

1059
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: like complete silence until March. That's a long time.

1060
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: That is a very long time. I want to say

1061
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: it's February though. Oh it's because they're renovating the mansion

1062
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: and they're doing a show on HDTV to renovate the mansion.

1063
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 1: So that's why three reason.

1064
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, great, I can't see that too, that'll be great.

1065
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean right. I'm kind of bummed that it

1066
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: wasn't asked to be one of the people to do it.

1067
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: I would have loved that. I mean, Ryan and I

1068
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: actually had a show on HGTV. Not it didn't get

1069
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: past the pilot, so let me just specify that. But

1070
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 1: it was called Rocky Mountain Renot and we loved it.

1071
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: It was so much fun.

1072
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: So I love to do that.

1073
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,959
Speaker 1: It's all good. It's all good. It was so much

1074
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: fun to film.

1075
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe next season. But are they going to

1076
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: keep renovating the mansion.

1077
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, I know I doubt it,

1078
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: but I am very interested to see who like wins

1079
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: that show and how it is renovated. Like how exciting?

1080
01:00:55,240 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: So exciting. Okay, so we know that the show. Wait

1081
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: where did the show send Where were they going to

1082
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: send you?

1083
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: And now Garyan, we were going to Italy and Italy

1084
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: to Napa Valley.

1085
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to Napa, Yeah, which I mean gotta

1086
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: love gotta love Napa. And it's kind of seems like

1087
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: it fits their vibe. You know, they want to just

1088
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: hang out and you know, eat some food and drink

1089
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: some wine. You guys never went on your trip, did you.

1090
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: Never went on our trip? And it wasn't like they

1091
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 2: were giving us a trip to Italy that they put together.

1092
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: They just gave us money and we were supposed to

1093
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 2: put so got it so much better if they just

1094
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: decided where we're going, you know that'd be right that Yes?

1095
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: Yea well bummer. Well hopefully you can use the money

1096
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: and go to Italy by yourself or with your family.

1097
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: Yes, someday we'll do that. Twice I have, yes, but

1098
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 2: I've never been to the lower part of Italy. So

1099
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: have you been to Italy? Yes?

1100
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: I have, and I love Italy. I would go back

1101
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: in a heartbeat. I mean we went to Chinkwaitara, which

1102
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: is like one of the like little fishing villages, yeah,

1103
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: or five fishing villages. It's where Pesto was created. And

1104
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: if you like Pesto, go to chinkwatera because oh my

1105
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: really good. Yes, I'm sorry that you didn't get to

1106
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: go on your trip, but hey you can still DODA

1107
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: sometimes another day, some day, that's right, that's right.

1108
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1109
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 1: Well, we are very happy for Mel and for Peg

1110
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: and no, I know without a doubt that Cindy will

1111
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: find her person. I'm actually rooting for her to be

1112
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: Golden Bachelorette.

1113
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that might happen. She seems perfect.

1114
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: I think she would be her affect for Golden Bachelorette.

1115
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I thought she looked drop dead, oh

1116
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: my gorgeous last.

1117
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: Night, sanely gorgeous.

1118
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, her eyes and Peg too, Peg too,

1119
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: Both of them looked gorgeous last night. PC.

1120
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: Really there were stunners, really stunning.

1121
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: They come out, they were stunning, and I have a

1122
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: feeling that that is because of Gina makeup or makeup

1123
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: artist extraordinary. And not to say that they are not

1124
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: gorgeous anyway, but their makeup was, but it was like elevating.

1125
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 1: They were just glam to the nines. And I thought

1126
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: it was amazing with pegshow anyway.

1127
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 2: Wasn't really wearing that much makeup on the show. And

1128
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 2: to see her in full makeup, gorgeous. Oh my god,

1129
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 2: her skin is so beautiful. And then yes, Cindy looks

1130
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 2: like they looked amazing.

1131
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: They looked amazing. So yes, we, of course almost everyone

1132
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: at Almost Famous wishes Mel and Peg and I almost

1133
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: did it. I almost said Meg and pell Ell Mel

1134
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: Now Meg, we're calling them Meg. We wish them all

1135
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: of bes. Yes, absolutely, all the happiness, and I know

1136
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: Cindy will find her person, as will all of the

1137
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: other Golden Bachelorettes. We I loved watching this season and

1138
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm excited for another. Actually, do you think they're going

1139
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: to do another.

1140
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: Golden Definitely they will. They will. They have to. They

1141
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 2: cannot stop that. They've got to do it. They've learned

1142
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 2: much from well we've done so far, so they're going

1143
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: to get it absolutely perfect the next time. It's going

1144
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: to be that's right, That's that's right. They've got to

1145
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: do it. We'll do for a Golden Bachelorette and then

1146
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: we'll have that's right. All these new guys.

1147
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: Uh huh, what are you are you by that statement?

1148
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: Are you hoping to throw your name in the ring?

1149
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know about that.

1150
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: No, Oh.

1151
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm ready that's right. Yes, okay, indeed, it's not

1152
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: just you, it's me me. I can put on makeup too.

1153
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Okay. Well, it's always

1154
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: a pleasure chatting with you, Teresa. Thank you so much

1155
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: for coming on and recapping and of course sharing what

1156
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: you didn't want.

1157
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: To share, but just eliminate all that.

1158
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. We're done. She's done talking about

1159
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: it people.

1160
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm done.

1161
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm done, she's done. No. Thank you for opening up

1162
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: and really sharing with me and all of our listeners.

1163
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: It means a lot. We are here to support you.

1164
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: We love you, and thanks for coming on the pod.

1165
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 2: Thank you for being so kind and allowed me to

1166
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 2: be able to say that. So thank you. It was wonderful.

1167
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: Course I love you. I love you. Yeah.

1168
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: So good to chat. I'm sure I'll see you soon.

1169
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: Yes in bye