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Speaker 1: when you're down on the fourth quarter, I thought this

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Speaker 1: was fascinating. You trust your fundamentals, just avoid negative plays,

427
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Speaker 1: keep advancing the ball down the field. This was something

428
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Speaker 1: uh ed Zombreker. You know ed because coach zom Breker

429
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Speaker 1: has done some some work down there at the Manning

430
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Speaker 1: Passaging Academy. He was a head coach at at Northeast

431
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Speaker 1: Louisiana when I was there in the offensive coordinate at

432
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Speaker 1: l s U Florida, a bunch of other places Perdue Um.

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Speaker 1: But he would take us on the field, UM the

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Speaker 1: day before the game, and we would start with quarterbacks

435
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Speaker 1: in our head coach, and we would just start at

436
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Speaker 1: one end line and we would walk the entire field

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Speaker 1: and as we got to like the ten, you know,

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Speaker 1: we get to the you know, to the five yard

439
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Speaker 1: line on our own five and okay, hey, this is

440
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Speaker 1: about let's just give our punter or enough room. We've

441
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Speaker 1: got to get this ball on another five yards so

442
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,840
Speaker 1: we can have some some room to punt the ball.

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Speaker 1: Then we get out to the ten of the fifteen. Okay, hey, look,

444
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 1: it's about protecting the ball. Uh, don't turn it over.

445
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 1: We can work the outside of the field. There's no

446
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Speaker 1: reason to go in the middle of the field if

447
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Speaker 1: you don't have to. Then you start getting Okay, we're

448
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Speaker 1: at the forty. Uh this, you know, we might take

449
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 1: a shot here, try and get a chunk player. This

450
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 1: is the plays we like. And he would walk the

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Speaker 1: whole length of the field and you just kind of

452
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Speaker 1: work through that. But then he would also be talking

453
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Speaker 1: about the two minute drill. And the whole thing about

454
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 1: the two minute drill is is first downs, not touchdowns.

455
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Speaker 1: You just worry about first downs. You get enough first downs,

456
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna get down the field and have an opportunity

457
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Speaker 1: to do what we need to do. But that's what

458
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: he's talking about down in the fourth quarter. Keep things basic,

459
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 1: don't turn the ball over, and just keep advancing the football.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it seems so simple, right, but

461
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 1: it's so powerful as well. And then uh, finally here

462
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Speaker 1: key to get back to zero forget and move on.

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Speaker 1: And I'll be interested to talk to Dan Orlovsky about

464
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Speaker 1: this as well as as a quarterback in the league,

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Speaker 1: you know, dealing with adversity, especially as a quarterback, how

466
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Speaker 1: do you fight back and how do you get back

467
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Speaker 1: to zero from a negative playing put yourself in an

468
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Speaker 1: opportunity to atone for it. Absolutely, it's a key to it.

469
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,479
Speaker 1: Last one here and this is pretty simple. Don't stay stagnant.

470
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Speaker 1: You're always getting better worth basically, treat each and every

471
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Speaker 1: day as an opportunity. And and uh and look, you

472
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 1: never rest, you never get comfortable. You're always trying to

473
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Speaker 1: take that next step. And you saw him play pretty

474
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Speaker 1: dark good lat into his career when he was healthy.

475
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Speaker 1: So anyways, that's what that's what we got there from

476
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Speaker 1: the Peyton Manning talk. I know you again you mentioned it.

477
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Speaker 1: You've got a lifetime of friendship there with the Manning family.

478
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Speaker 1: So I just think it's great. I love studying great players.

479
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Speaker 1: Is somebody that's great in in our world, the football world,

480
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 1: or even outside the world. Listening to these successful people, Uh,

481
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 1: it crosses over. It's not just football stuff, it's life stuff.

482
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,719
Speaker 1: No question about it. Um and uh. I feel like

483
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,919
Speaker 1: if you can set that examples as a leader, then

484
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 1: you'll see that trickle down effect for sure. All Right.

485
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Speaker 1: We we teased it a little bit earlier. Really excited

486
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Speaker 1: about our next guest, all right, couldn't be more excited

487
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: to finally get my guy on the podcast here. Dan

488
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 1: Orlovsky has done a phenomenal job in the transition from

489
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Speaker 1: playing on the field to really emerging as one of

490
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Speaker 1: the top young analysts in the NFL right now. It

491
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,719
Speaker 1: does great job over there at ESPN, and we've got

492
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Speaker 1: him on the show today. Dan, how you doing, Bud, Well,

493
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Speaker 1: I'm doing great after that nice introduction, So I appreciate it. Man,

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Speaker 1: It's good too. Good to be with both you guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm as big a fan of yours as you are

496
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Speaker 1: of mine. Well, Dan, just just to be clear, DJ

497
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: is the king of setting you up and then knocking

498
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: you down a little bit. Just just wait a couple

499
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Speaker 1: of Hey, we were just talking a little bit, go ahead, DJ, No,

500
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, now, he appreciates that he knows

501
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Speaker 1: what he's walking into here. Absolutely. We were just talking

502
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Speaker 1: a little bit Dan about Peyton Manning and about leadership

503
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Speaker 1: in general a little bit, and how he kind of

504
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Speaker 1: exemplifies that in a big way. DJ got a chance

505
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Speaker 1: to spend some time with him. I've been around him

506
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Speaker 1: a lot um growing up as well, and so we

507
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 1: were kind of curious, you know, in your NFL career,

508
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: some of the guys that you've really taken notice of

509
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Speaker 1: as exemplary leaders in your in your different atmospheres. Well,

510
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Speaker 1: it's funny you bring up Payton. I was at I

511
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Speaker 1: played technically played a year with Peyton. That was the

512
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Speaker 1: eleven year, and that was like my fifth or six

513
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Speaker 1: year in the NFL. That was Peyton's neck year when

514
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Speaker 1: he you know, there was so much unknown about it

515
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 1: to start this season really for everybody, even us that

516
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Speaker 1: were involved there. And I remember obviously thinking the world

517
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Speaker 1: of Peyton and his leadership. But a story that sticks

518
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Speaker 1: out that he kind of set the standard or set

519
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Speaker 1: the bar for leadership was we were gonna walk through

520
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Speaker 1: and Peyton was not again part of the team in

521
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Speaker 1: many ways at this point. This was beginning of the

522
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Speaker 1: year and again not knowing, so we're gonna walk through,

523
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Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks are kind of going through walk through.

524
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Speaker 1: Everything is slower, everything is pulled back and we break

525
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Speaker 1: the huddle and we're kind of calling out protection, calling

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Speaker 1: out the defense and whatnot, and Peyton stands in the

527
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Speaker 1: first play and immediately he's like no, no no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: starts up. We're like what's up and he's like, just

529
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Speaker 1: because we're going a walkthrough, it doesn't mean that this

530
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Speaker 1: does not matter. And we were all like, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: get it, Payton, and he kind of he said, no,

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Speaker 1: I'll show you guys how to do this. So he

533
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Speaker 1: breaks the huddle and all of a sudden, he gets

534
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Speaker 1: lined and he starts screaming out protections and screaming out

535
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Speaker 1: defenses and hands signaling communicating, and we were looking at

536
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: it like what is going on? He kind of pulled

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Speaker 1: everyone together. It was like, fellas, everything you do matters.

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Speaker 1: And that was the first time I think in my

539
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 1: life where I got to see somebody say something and

540
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Speaker 1: then show me what it actually meant, like words were

541
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Speaker 1: put into images. So Peyton was kind of like that

542
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Speaker 1: standard center. But I was fortunate, like I went into

543
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Speaker 1: the NFL my first couple of years and struggled to

544
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Speaker 1: find a leader. But then I went to Houston. Gary

545
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Speaker 1: Kubiak was a leader there, as our head coach. The

546
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Speaker 1: thing I loved about Gary Kuback was like he did

547
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Speaker 1: had this ability to ask nothing of you but demand

548
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Speaker 1: everything of you. And I know that kind of sounds silly,

549
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: but like Coop's just had this way of he demanded

550
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: stuff from you without ever asking of it from you.

551
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Speaker 1: Matt Shab was a great leader. I think the thing

552
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Speaker 1: that stood out to him to me from him as

553
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: a leader was he embraced everything, like embraced the grind,

554
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: embraced training camp, embraced He was in this guy that

555
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: you just watched embrace it. Peyton I talked about Reggie

556
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: Wayne was incredible. Just the work ethic that Reggie had.

557
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Speaker 1: I remember in training camp before training camp practice, like

558
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Speaker 1: five am walking into the weight room and Reggie was

559
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: doing super sets of twenty reps of two pounds squats

560
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Speaker 1: and then like thirty seconds sprints on the treadmill. And

561
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Speaker 1: this is like in his tenth or eleventh year or so,

562
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Speaker 1: Reggie was up there. Jim Caldwell was a great leader

563
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: of um you know, empowering guys. He always had a

564
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Speaker 1: way to make sure that you remembered your success even

565
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: in difficult times. Reminded you of kind of really what

566
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Speaker 1: and who you were? And then Sean McVeigh. Sean McVeigh,

567
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Speaker 1: I say this about great coaches. A lot of good

568
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Speaker 1: coaches or coaches like set a standard and they expect

569
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Speaker 1: players to find a way to that standard. Sean McVeigh

570
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Speaker 1: sets the standard and then equips players differently to make

571
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Speaker 1: sure that they can reach that standard. But I've been

572
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Speaker 1: fortunate to be around some great leaders and and I

573
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: think some people listen to this. Look, there's some people

574
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: on the internet who want to be cynical and kind

575
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: of and poo poo when we talk about things like

576
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Speaker 1: leadership and what that does for a team and in

577
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Speaker 1: the locker room. Just from your experience, how how crucial

578
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: is it, especially we're talking about a head coach and

579
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Speaker 1: a quarterback, that that be a large component of what

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Speaker 1: they bring to the table. Oh, it's it's arguably the

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00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: most important thing. Because you know, I always say, like

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00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: football is almost like the game of golf, Like I

583
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: love golf, and so golfs in the game about Mrs Right,

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00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: Football and especially quarterbacking and coaching is like about handling

585
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: the bad. It's about handling problems because they're inevitable and

586
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: when your quarterback and coach are aligned but also have

587
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: great leadership qualities. In the bad, you know that in

588
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: the good likely everything is going to be easier, but

589
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: just in the handling the bad, handling the problems of

590
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: play to play quarter to quarter gained a game season

591
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Speaker 1: to see and those guys that can have the leadership

592
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: or quality of us, it's always us. It's always we.

593
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: It's always our our journey. It's not our result that

594
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: they'll come, it's our destination. Um. You know, I was

595
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: fortunately fortunate to be around some great coaches and some

596
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that exemplified it, but also some players like Jeff Saturday.

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00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: I always go back to that season. We were really bad.

598
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: We were uh. Jeff had gone through a decade of

599
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: a f C championships basically they were part of like

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00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: winning every game type thing, and we were owing eleven

601
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: oh and twelve. Finally won a game. But I always

602
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: say one of the reasons we won that game was

603
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday never blinked. Jeff Saturday never wavered from all right,

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Speaker 1: it's Wednesday, and I'm I'm a paid professional, and this

605
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: is our practice and I'm gonna do everything I can

606
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: my routine. He could have been easy to check in,

607
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: you know, like check out and cool whatever, But just

608
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: his ability to keep us going forward was so impactful

609
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: for so many of us that quick, here one more

610
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 1: rent and I'll let you jump in here. But Dan,

611
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: when I get a chance to go speak some of

612
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: these colleges and and talk to these players about what's

613
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: getting ready to come uh in their future here as

614
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: they get towards the draft, and try and give some

615
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: advice along the way. And one of the things that

616
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: that kind of sparked my memory, there's what you just

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00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: said there about how you handle things and the we

618
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: meet thing, because I tell him, look, when you're doing

619
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Speaker 1: an interview, it's a very simple rule to live by.

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Speaker 1: If it's right, it's we. If it's wrong, it's me.

621
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Speaker 1: And anything that goes wrong you can take personal ownership

622
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: of it. Anything that goes right, it's shared. And that

623
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: to me is something if gosh, if these guys could

624
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: just follow that simple rule, it will eliminate a lot

625
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: of distractions, a lot of issues some of these guys

626
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: create for themselves. I think part of it too is

627
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: a lot of kids. I don't know what a lot

628
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: of people struggle to truly gain confidence because of the

629
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Speaker 1: work it takes to have actual confidence that then they

630
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: don't want to say me because they're not confident enough

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Speaker 1: to go. You know, no, that's on me, because when

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Speaker 1: you're confident and have put in the work, you'll take

633
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Speaker 1: whatever right. You'll just go. Yeah it was. It was

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Speaker 1: on me. But it's a great point that we versus

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Speaker 1: main thing. I'm gonna steal that. Yeah, me might get

636
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: your paid, but we we wins long term. I think

637
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: in in most every avenue there, especially in football, So

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Speaker 1: uh Dan, I think when we talk about quarterbacks, they

639
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: are kind of de facto leaders. Some embraced it probably

640
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: more than others. Um, But these rookie quarterbacks, and I'll

641
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: include Josh Rosen in this in this group here just

642
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: because he was traded on draft day on draft weekend,

643
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: Which of these rookie quarterbacks do you feel like is

644
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: best equipped to lead their team and is in the

645
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: best situation to do so? And I'll include Rosen in

646
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: that group as well. Oh man, you know I would

647
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: say the guy that I there's something about him that

648
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: I genuinely do like personality wise is Drew lock Um. Now,

649
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: obviously everyone has has heard about the conversation between him

650
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: and Flacco and mentorship whatever. But you know, he's a

651
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: guy that because he went to Missouri and they were

652
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: usually outmanned, he had to kind of bear some stuff,

653
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: like he had to bear some difficult times and go

654
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: through some struggles and understand that it was going to

655
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: take we versus him just being the greatest player on

656
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: the field to go win some games. You actually saw

657
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: it almost play itself out this season that he took

658
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of a step back statistically on purpose

659
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: to allow his team to be better. Like the we

660
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: was better. That's why they were eight and four and

661
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: made their Bowl games because they got away from the

662
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: gun slinging mode and he got away from the gun

663
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: slinging mode. I don't love the player, and I don't

664
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: love the fit necessarily, but Daniel, I don't love the player,

665
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: But Daniel Jones in New York, you're going to learn

666
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: behind one of the great of in the history of

667
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: the New York City. And that is not in all

668
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: due respect to many cities, like you're not playing in Jacksonville,

669
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, and so having the opportunity to

670
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: not only learn from a guy who's done it as

671
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: good as anybody in that city, but also zero pressure

672
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: this right now to go have to go play and

673
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: carry a franchise. I do believe that there is invaluable

674
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: experience there um to be able to just sit and learn.

675
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: Obviously stit him in New England. But one thing I

676
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: will say about Josh Rosen is this, and I don't

677
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: know if it gets talked about enough. You know, I

678
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 1: do believe that leadership is dual, and you're born with

679
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: it a little bit and then you develop it and

680
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: and grow and mature it a little bit. But I

681
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: also know that my leadership personally grew because I got

682
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: to watch people in front of me, Like I got

683
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: to watch guys like John Kitna and Matt Shab and

684
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and uh Gary Kuback and all the Sean McVeigh.

685
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: I got to watch those guys. Josh Rosen has never

686
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: had a mentor. He went from high school straight to

687
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: U C. L A And was like go, and he's

688
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: never had someone to just kind of sit back, can

689
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: go all right. I want to I want to implement

690
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: that into my life. I wanna be a little bit

691
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: more like that or oh that's how I handle throwing

692
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: three interceptions and losing the game for our team, or

693
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: that's how I handle throwing four touchdowns and winning the

694
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: game for our team. So I'm very interested to see

695
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: how him getting kicked in the face a little bit

696
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: and a little bit embarrassed that he really can he

697
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: grow from that and learned from a guy like Ryan Fitzpatrick,

698
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: even if it's just a little bit. Yeah, it's interesting

699
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: if you if you look at Josh's situation, Um, not

700
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: only is he is he having to change teams after

701
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: one year, And we talked about the fact previously on

702
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: this podcast as well as everybody has a four four offenses,

703
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: he had to learn uh as as quick as this

704
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: thing has turned over, had to had to stink and

705
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: learn an offense he was never gonna play in. Think

706
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: how frustrating last couple of months. I mean, yeah, so

707
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: he goes through all that. Now he's there in Miami,

708
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: but I think he might have left a depleted roster

709
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: for one that might even be worse with where he

710
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: is in Miami. I mean, there is not much around

711
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: him there in a team that you don't use the

712
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: word tanking, but a team that has their eyes towards

713
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: the future. Let's just put it that way. But man,

714
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't know that a young quarterback has had a

715
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: more a bigger challenge ahead of him to start his

716
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: career than this kid. Maybe maybe you can think of

717
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: another one that maybe David Carr starting there with the

718
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: Texans as an expansion franchise but didn't have to switch

719
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: teams after one years for a big time kid. And

720
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 1: and then you knew this, Like I've I've said this,

721
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's been said by other people that

722
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: I kind of just like a lot of young quarterbacks

723
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL are ruined than they are made because

724
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: a lot of teams don't handle them the right way

725
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: and know how to coach them the right way. To

726
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: be honest with you, you can make the case that

727
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: both of the l A kids like Josh Rosen and

728
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, with what's going on with the Jets, um

729
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: I do. I'm always trying to glass half full things, uh,

730
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: And and this is a really good opportunity for Josh

731
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: Rosen to dispel some of the conversation out there or

732
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: the herative out there of him. I agreed with the

733
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: depletion of the roster, but I will say this, Chad

734
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: O'shay going down to Miami and coming from where he's

735
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: been into England for a decade, completely understands how to

736
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: manipulate scheme to cover up your roster flaws right your

737
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: your offensive line flaw, your skill talent flaw. And you

738
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: have to have a very intelligent quarterback to do that.

739
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: And that's Rose and strength. So like that is my

740
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: glass half full view of it is like maybe just

741
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: maybe since he does excel in the brain aspect, that

742
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: they can utilize him to overcome some of the flaws

743
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: that are there. But um, certainly him and Sam Donald

744
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: have been put into some very different situations than say

745
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: a Baker or even at Josh Allen and Buffalo. I'm

746
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: glad you brought that up about Shadow Shay too, because

747
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: we were just talking about underrated players in the league.

748
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: I think that was probably one of the more underrated

749
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: coaching hires this uh this past season was out O

750
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: Shay coming from New England to be the offensive coordinator

751
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: in Miami. Hey a d J, you've got some you've

752
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: got some old reports you want to dig around for

753
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: a little bit. Um, I think we actually some one

754
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: with this. I think we should we should put all right, Dan,

755
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: you were a class of two thousand five, correct? Correct? Alright.

756
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: So I've gone through and I've I've printed out some

757
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: uh some reports that I wrote. I was with the

758
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens at that time on quarterbacks in your draft class. Now,

759
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: the last one I'm gonna read is yours. So so

760
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna look forward to that, and I'll tell you

761
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: that's coming. I do hope that we're I do hope

762
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: we're still friends after I read that and then brings

763
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: you right back down. Here we go, here we go.

764
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm gonna just read it. I'll give

765
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: you a couple of softballs here. I'm not gonna read

766
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: the entire report. I'll just pull out some some little

767
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: things from it. Here. Uh let's see here. Player has

768
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: good hide on skinny frames. Only twenty years old, she'll

769
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: be able to add another fifteen to twenties. Tinues to mature.

770
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: Operates in a wide open shotgun offense with tremendous efficiency,

771
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: quick feet over the top, fluid delivery, gets the ball

772
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: up quickly, footwork very polished. Uh me scroll down here,

773
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: doesn't have a big arm, has enough far to make

774
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: all the throws, gets a need, a velocity to fitballs

775
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: and tight quarters. Uh. Nice touch on a deep ball. Uh,

776
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: let's just scroll down here. Also proves his toughness by

777
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: taking several shots on my tapes and hopping right back up.

778
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: Decision making is outstanding. Let's get to the very end. Overall,

779
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: there isn't much dislike about this player. Has size, toughness, instincts, presence,

780
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: He values the ball. He's accurate, he's very athletic, he's smart,

781
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: he's a winner. Lack of a huge arm the only

782
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: thing keeping this great from the top, top tier. But

783
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: that was a report? Who you got there? Dan? Who

784
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: was that? Alex Smith Ding ding ding? Nicely done. Let's

785
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: go Alex one for one, one for one. You're one,

786
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: You're one for one. All right? Here we go another

787
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: one here? Uh this Uh? I want to say that

788
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: that will give it away? Uh. Slightly under sized quarterback,

789
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: extremely active efficient Uh in this attack. Uh he bought

790
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: into the mechanical fundamental go ahead. Yes, no, no, no,

791
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: no no. But that's a good guess. Um, it's not

792
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: a good guess. Let me finish this. Holds the ball

793
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: by his ear at times. Uh stops the ball off

794
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: quickly from that spot. There you go. Okay, once I

795
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: got to the ear, there's so many tells in this thing.

796
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: I'm like trying to not to navigate my way through

797
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: the last thing I said on on Rogers. Let's get

798
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: to the end of it here. Uh uh uh uh, well,

799
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: a little undersize as all tools would be a solid

800
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: starting quarterback in the NFL. Um he was more by

801
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: the way, DJ, if you're just gonna read them in

802
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: order of which they were drafted, this is gonna be

803
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: a lot easier. No, no, no, I like to start

804
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: off by give I like to give him a couple

805
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: of layups here. This is a layup. Now we're getting

806
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: ready to step back. Now we're stepping back a little bit.

807
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: All right. The sky is a three year starter. Uh,

808
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: let's go through here. Interesting guy to watch. He's a

809
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: monster physically, very strong, arm decent, mobility operated dropback passing attack. Uh.

810
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: Let's see here. Um, let's go through here. He'll make

811
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: four tough throws in a row, then overthrow a wide,

812
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: wide open man by twenty five yards. Doesn't handle pressure

813
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: in his face very well, gets rattled and throws it

814
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: up for grabs. Decision making in general's questionable because of

815
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: his supreme confidence in his arm. Um. Uh show deep

816
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: ball actually beautiful, effortless fifty five yard toss versus boise states.

817
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: Maybe a little, but that's not too much of a

818
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: hint there. Um. However, he'll throw underneath passes and shallow

819
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: crosses like he's Vladimir Guerrero. Needs to take a little off,

820
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: get down to the very end here. Overall, this is

821
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: a wild card player, very talented. Needs to be roped

822
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: in and given time to develop. He'd be a good

823
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: third initially for us, a chance to be a very

824
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: good number two potential to start in time. I'm saying

825
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: I'm taking two guys. Is whether I'm allowed or not? No,

826
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: you get one, yes, one of the two. Derek Anderson. Anderson,

827
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: nicely done. You're three for three. You are three for

828
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: three right now? Alright, alright, here we go next one

829
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: that wee can do this all. There's a lot of

830
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this class, all right. This guy operates out

831
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: of the gun and under center. Decent quickness away from center. Uh,

832
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: those off firm platform, short lead step if any at all,

833
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: Uh stays on balance. Uh. He has a little bit

834
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: of a violent release. Looks like baseball pitcher um doesn't

835
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: always follow. Three, will fight his body at times. Good

836
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: pocket awareness, he can escape and create time. Uh, let's

837
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: get to some other stuff here. Excellent play action quarterback. Uh.

838
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 1: He's a tough runner with the ball. When he tucks

839
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: and goes isn't very sudden or lucid, but he'll fight

840
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: for tough yards. Outstanding competitor. Ran thirty yards downfield pursuit

841
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: of a block on a reverse and dove to pick

842
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: one up. Overall smart, tough competitor, who can manage football

843
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: game games. I just questioned whether or not he's already capped. Uh,

844
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: he should be a very good backup at the next level.

845
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. Uh, you're pitching a perfect There's

846
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure ding ding ding ding dingo about

847
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: that five because of the oh yeah, four, he was

848
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: premature on that. Alight, All right, here we go. Now

849
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: we're now we're starting to have some fun here. Uh.

850
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: This guy was a one year starter. Uh. First thing

851
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: you noticed about this player as a sidearm delivery, releases

852
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: the ball below his chest on bost most throws. Uh

853
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: does a good job find lanes gets limited tip balls

854
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: for someone who throws it fifty five times a game. Uh,

855
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: mostly out of the gun. Quick catch and throw offense,

856
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: Accurate on shallow crosses and bubbles. Uh, nice fade thrower

857
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: struggles on drive throws. All of his I n T

858
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: s in my tapes result of him trying to drive

859
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: and fit the on tight quarters. Doesn't have the juice

860
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: to make those throws. His ball has a parachute on it.

861
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: It will die. Uh. Then get to the very end here,

862
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: very engine. However, Uh. He tore up cal on the

863
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: Holiday Bowl, outplayed Rogers. However, his lack of arm strength

864
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: makes him a fit for only a dink and dunk offense.

865
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: He isn't any better than Josh Harris in my opinion,

866
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: who we had at the time is our third. Now

867
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: we got now, we got you. I think I might

868
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: have you on this one up Rogers in the Holiday Bowl. Um,

869
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: Andrew Walter, no, give you one more good? Um, I said.

870
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: He throws it fifty five times a game. Think about

871
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: the programs to throw the football fifty five times a game? No,

872
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: no doubt? Oh god, oh god, dude. So this is

873
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: the one. This is the one. Yeah, okay, um organ No,

874
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: let's think Big twelve doesn't match. It doesn't match the

875
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: arm strength. Um big twelve. Oh Jason White, No, no,

876
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: rhetin knows it. I think rhet knows it. Jump in here,

877
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: Dan's struggling. Um no, okay, I'm I am now Texas Tech.

878
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: Oh god, this was wait was this Texas Tech? Just

879
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: b J. Simmons No, um oh, Sonny the first sunny comb. Yes,

880
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: he's like the offensive coordinator TCU right now, right he

881
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, alright, good for him. No chance of

882
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: you getting that. Okay, alright, alright, alright, we've got one

883
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: more than I'm getting to yours. Uh see, I saved

884
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: the hard ones for the last part it. Yeah, that's

885
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: all right. Here we go, last one, last one. Short, crafty,

886
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: productive quarterback uh and a QB friendly offense. Operates out

887
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: of the gun undernath the center, very athletic, throws well

888
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: in the move. He'll run some option on here. Uh

889
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: uh does rotate with another quarterback. At first glance, he

890
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: looks like a free agent. He short, lacks a big

891
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: arm to make all the throws. However, he's efficient, doesn't

892
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: make bad decisions, can create some plays with his legs.

893
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: Uh get to the very end. Overall, this player has

894
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: enough ability to carry a clipboard at the next level

895
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: could get us out of a game. His lack of

896
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: size and arm might deter teams from drafting. And but

897
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: I won't be surprised if he makes a team next year.

898
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: Oh man, um, all right, I'm gonna throw throw one

899
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: out there. Brock Berlin. No, but you've already used this name.

900
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: I just didn't. He was a monster Louisville. I mean

901
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: he was really good. He was very angry. Yeah, it

902
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: should have Well you're not angry yet because you haven't heard.

903
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: But that, uh, that was Brom, right, wasn't that Brom

904
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: he was rotating with. Yeah, and then when was a

905
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: freshman and Bram was the second round pick? What it's

906
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: a year later or two years later? Two years later? Yeah? Yeah,

907
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: that didn't that didn't end. Well, that was pretty good.

908
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: You had, you had those good. It's pretty good. All right,

909
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: Here we go the piece they resistance, right, rhet? Did

910
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: did you get this? I think I sent this to

911
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: you DJ. Do you feel more comfortable if I read it?

912
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: Or are you gonna be okay? I think you don't

913
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: more comfortable if you read this, because I think I

914
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: think it's this is this is gonna be hurtful. It's

915
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: gonna be hurtful. All right, you want it? You want

916
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: it from me or from rhet You can choose who

917
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: you Okay, okay, all right, okay, alright, alright, here we go.

918
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: This is across. This is a cross check report. So

919
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: I didn't get to see you live. It's just off tape.

920
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: It's off of a cross check, So keep all right.

921
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: Orlovsky the starter quarterback for the Huskies. Excellent size and

922
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: frame to add more weight. He's an awkward player to grade.

923
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: He looks like a big, strong power pitcher and throws

924
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: nothing but seventy five mile prower changeups. Has decent feet

925
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: and is set up out of the gun and under center.

926
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: Holds the ball chest high, takes him a little while

927
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: the load and released. He's at his best on checkdown

928
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: swings and throws inside the hash. He sees the field

929
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: very well takes what's given. However, he lacks the muscle

930
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: to drive the ball outside the hash and underthrows deep

931
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: balls on my tapes. He lacks mobility to escape when

932
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: things break down and lose his accuracy on the move.

933
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: He really struggled at the Senior Bowl. His bald, wobbled

934
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: and died on drive throws, appeared very slow foot. He's

935
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: better on these tapes, but I still wouldn't endorse as

936
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: a draftable prospect for US. I mean that was that

937
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: was I mean, I was wrong. I mean you played

938
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: for a long time. I totally I whipped on that one.

939
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: I mean that was painful to read here. No, no, no,

940
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, it's almost perfect. The only

941
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: the only thing, the only thing that is when you're like, man,

942
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: this dude at checked out in the world is well done,

943
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: so so good you outlived that report? Yeah? Yeah, was

944
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: that was that? What do you remember about that? I

945
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: don't even remember what happened that week? What happened that well?

946
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: Three things? So I just like I was really bad.

947
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: I mean I was really bad. That was I was

948
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: with Dolphins. I had never taken a seventh step drop before,

949
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: so like We're taking seven step drops and throwing eighteen

950
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: yard comebacks and I'm like literally one hopping stuff. And

951
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: I remember walking downstairs after the second day and the

952
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: player Lounge Sports Center special Mel keeper whose player has

953
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: player of stock has been hurt the most in Mel

954
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: just just drop kicked me all over national um warranted

955
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: though that was that was a bad performance. Um. But

956
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: I will tell you, like that's one of the things

957
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: turning into a little bit of a serious note. A

958
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: lot of times, like people on Twitter well or social

959
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: media can be like, hey, why didn't you ever make it?

960
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: Because some of the stuff like the smart play breaking

961
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: down and whatnot that people like kind of, you know,

962
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: really appreciate, they'll be like, why didn't you ever make it?

963
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: And so like my number one thing I say to

964
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: them is like, I mean, technically I played for a

965
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: twelve years, so I kind of did make it. Um.

966
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: But also like there were physical limitations to me, like

967
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: there were to your per per your report, Like I

968
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: had physical limitations that made me not uh super a

969
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: superstar starter type thing. So um uh that that's funny.

970
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: But three, going back to the draft class, that was

971
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: an incredibly successful like long term class, Like I think

972
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: we had like eight or nine guys played for ten years,

973
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: like Rogers ten years, Campbell ten years, ten years, stop,

974
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson ten plus years or in ten plus years,

975
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: Fits ten plus years, me ten plus years. Um, that's true.

976
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: We don't see that a lot. Yeah, there's a lot

977
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: of guys that played for ten plus years in the NFL. Hey,

978
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 1: I got one last thing and then let you guys,

979
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: let you get out of here unless d J has

980
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: something else. I mean, we talked about the xs and

981
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: ohs a lot, and you know, we see you on

982
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: get Up doing a lot of the breakdowns and we

983
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: appreciate it. You got a white board right behind you.

984
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: Can you just can you draw something real quick? Can

985
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: you just dross your favorite combo real quick? Oh? Okay,

986
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: my favorite route combo. This is what I'm talking about

987
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: right here. Maybe I have to bring no, No, we

988
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: can see it. No, we got it good, We got

989
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: it good. This is a this is the Peyton Manning Special.

990
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: It's actually called Florida. I don't know why, but this

991
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: is how Peyton would run it. Essentially, so would be

992
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: out of eleven personnel, like say that's a tight end okay,

993
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: and a back here. This would be a go route,

994
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: but it could be a post if you got two

995
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: high safeties, like this guy would shoot to the flat

996
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: right now he would be a crosser and this guy

997
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: would be an in route, and then the back would

998
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: either check down or leak out. And I remember like

999
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: progression wise I remember being like, oh, this is one,

1000
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: this is too, this is three, and this is cot

1001
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: and Peyton. Peyton was like, why would you read the

1002
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: deep guy is number one? And I was always like

1003
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you? And Peyton's like, Payton's like, you take

1004
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: this guy number one all day long. He's like, you

1005
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: throw that. I don't care if you throw it ten

1006
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: times in a row for two yards. He's because eventually,

1007
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: all due respect to defensive people, and he's like, eventually

1008
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: defensive people get dumb. And he's like, that's when that

1009
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: throw comes, and that's when that throw comes. So Peyton

1010
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: would read it one, two, three, and this guy would

1011
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: only be like a we saw it on tape alert

1012
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: and it's getting thrown type thing. But Jesse could beat

1013
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: any coverage, like you got man, you could, you could

1014
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: get it first man, you got covered two. It's a

1015
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: good cover two play you have to cover three, good

1016
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: cover three, play quarters, good quarters, play two man. You

1017
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: got a winner against two man, Like it's a play

1018
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: that really if you get good at it, you could

1019
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: run this ten times a game and find a different

1020
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: completion all the times. I think. But that's one of

1021
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: my favorites. Damn just real quick. You know, based on

1022
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: that play and that progression in DJ's report, you'd have

1023
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: been a pro bowler in that offense throwing that tight

1024
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: end swing right there between the hat. Alright, last question,

1025
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: because I'm leaving on a positive note. Care Uh, First

1026
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: of all, thank you so much. You've been generous with

1027
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: your time. Danna. It's it's you're You're the man. So

1028
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: it's been fun to talk to you. But just just

1029
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: just a quarterback geek out here for a minute. Um.

1030
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: I love talking to guys and we do it every

1031
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: time we have a quarterback on just kind of getting

1032
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: their favorite phrases. I have mine, our little those little

1033
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: things coaches have told you that stuck in your head. Um,

1034
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, safeties are the window of the

1035
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: of the soul into the soul of a defense. I

1036
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: remember we had a coach that take it all away.

1037
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: You've always got a being able to check the ball

1038
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: down to the back, can't go broke, taking a profit.

1039
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: You know those types of phrases. What's your favorite one

1040
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: that maybe you had a coach, could have been high school,

1041
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: college or in the NFL, that quarterback phrase. It kind

1042
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: of runs through your mind still to this day. Always

1043
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: have a plan, every single play. Have a plan. Yeah

1044
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: that is That was a Gary Kubiak thing. Um, what

1045
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: is your plan? And it is a question that totally

1046
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: changed me as a player, certainly changed me as a

1047
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: player and then has been a big part of kind

1048
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: of the role that I'm in now. But what is

1049
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: your plan? Have a plan? I love it. Oh, that

1050
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: is phenomenal. That is so good. Well, we can't can't

1051
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: thank you enough for for being so genious with your time. Man.

1052
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. Happy buddy, and I

1053
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: know we'll catch up soon. You guys are the best man.

1054
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: I will, buddy, I will. Thanks. Thanks man. Oh that

1055
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: was fun, right. I love not only the knowledge that

1056
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: that Dan has first of allways self deprecated, which is

1057
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: always something I enjoy. He played along with us there,

1058
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 1: but man, he's he is. He is incredibly intelligent about

1059
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: the game of football. And it was it was fun

1060
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: even you got him on the board. How about that?

1061
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: I mean, like all you know, just we didn't prep

1062
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: him for that, and you just mentioned it and then

1063
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: boom he's up there drawing to play the Peyton Manning

1064
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: had kind of uh you know, they had when they

1065
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: shared some time there with the Colts. I thought that

1066
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: was really cool, and we'll actually we'll throw that out

1067
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: on social so you actually see it. Uh see Dan

1068
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: draw it up and then uh see us kind of

1069
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: knock him down a little bit with the with the

1070
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: re progression on that one. Yeah. So if you don't

1071
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: follow it already followed that NFL podcasts Twitter account. If

1072
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: if you don't fall all of that, then out me

1073
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: and Red al Bull. Let's reet that out with our

1074
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: handles here. Uh what what what is your handle? By

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00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: the way, that's reet with an h R H E

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00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: T t reet NFL. There you go. All right, Well,

1077
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: let's let's focus here on the division winners from last

1078
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: year RT. I think we can go through this pretty

1079
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: quickly here. I think it's a pretty self explanatory. Did

1080
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: they get better or did they get worse? They read roll? Yeah, yeah,

1081
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: you want to kick us off with the chiefs in

1082
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: the a f C West. Sure, And as I said,

1083
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 1: this is very easy. You're just saying better or worse.

1084
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: When you look at the Kansas City chiefs. Justin Houston's gone,

1085
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: d Ford has gone also. You know Eric Berry, we

1086
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: know he's moved on. And then I think if you

1087
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: go back to the middle of this season, obviously, yeah,

1088
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: you lose a very very talented running back and Kareem Hunt. Uh.

1089
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: They've added the honey Badger, Frank Clark, who's a great player, UM,

1090
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: Carlos Hyde and some of the guys in the draft,

1091
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: their Mikole Hardman, UH is one that stands out. But

1092
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: it's better or worse, and I'm not. I'm gonna stand

1093
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: right on the fence because until I find out what's

1094
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: happening with Tyreek Hill, I make that decision. To me,

1095
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: he he is such an instrumental part of this offense

1096
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: and sets everything up for everyone else on the offense.

1097
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: Until I know what's going on with Tyreek Hill, I

1098
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: can't say. If you look at all the other movement

1099
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: in this team, I actually think they're better because I

1100
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: like Frank Clark better. That's what I think. Tyron Matthews

1101
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: got a chance. Oh, I think it's I think it's

1102
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: a major upgrade. I know d Ford had the sacks,

1103
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: but I think Frank Clark's a better football player, so

1104
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be better on that side of

1105
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: the ball. To me, the whole thing comes down to

1106
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. Tyreek Hill is there, I think they're better

1107
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: than their twelve and four record last year. If he's

1108
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: not there, I think they're worse. That's simple. Let's move

1109
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: it on to the a f C East here. Patriots

1110
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: obviously the champions at eleven and five right in their wheelhouse,

1111
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: eleven and five, twelve and four, maybe in the thirteen three,

1112
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of what they do here. So look, I

1113
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: think so many times in the off season we talk

1114
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: about the Patriots and oh, honest, they lost so and

1115
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: so and so, you know, how do they got worse? Right? Well,

1116
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: it doesn't always end up being the case, and so, yes,

1117
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski left, and so I think generally we'd be saying,

1118
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 1: oh man, they got worse, right, But I feel like DJ,

1119
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: this was one of the patriots best overall draft classes

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00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: in maybe the last five years, maybe a little bit,

1121
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: a little bit more talking about Chase Winoviage, talking about

1122
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: Joe On Williams, Nikkil Harry and Damian Harris as well.

1123
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you got four guys you're gonna

1124
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: see on the field and and pretty good chunks here

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00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. So I'm gonna say they got better. Yeah,

1126
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say they got worse, just

1127
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: because I think Gronk is such a unique, unique weapon

1128
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: for them offensively. I know they've won the Big Prize

1129
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: without him, but I just think with him, without him,

1130
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: I think this team it's hard for me to say

1131
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: that they're better, even though they have had a fantastic

1132
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: draft normally, you know, at the running back position, it's

1133
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: a little different. Damon Harris will have a chance there

1134
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: with with Sony Michelan burkehead and and and White to

1135
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: get on the field and do some things. But receiver wise,

1136
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: rookie receivers with the New England Patriots, it's been talked

1137
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: about a lot. They don't have a lot of success there.

1138
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: And I love Nikkill Harry and when he brings to

1139
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 1: the table, it's just it's tough tough to earn Tom's

1140
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: trust that are. They don't have a lot of a

1141
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: success with veteran receivers either. They come in free agency,

1142
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: so you know, it's fair fair point. I think when

1143
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: you lose Trent Brown. Trent Brown played very well last

1144
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: year real quick, and I know I like, I like

1145
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: what they have with the with the first rounder from

1146
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: Georgia getting a chance to step in there. But I

1147
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: still think there's gonna be a little a little bit

1148
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: of a drop off there between Trent Brown and as

1149
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: they went. All right, who we got next to the year?

1150
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: Name one? You know thing everybody remember it's been so long.

1151
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: They ended up winning that division. Of course, they lost

1152
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: to the Colts um in the postseason, but you look

1153
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 1: at who they lost to, Honey Badger. We just mentioned

1154
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: him as being an addition for the Chiefs, Kareem Jackson.

1155
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: So a couple of players there in that secondary. They

1156
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: add Roby coming over from the Broncos in the secondary,

1157
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: and really, to me, the two keys are Titus Howard

1158
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: and Max Sharping. Those guys as rookies are gonna have

1159
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: to get on the field at the tackle position. So

1160
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: when I look at what they've done, I'm gonna say

1161
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: they're going to be better because that offensive line cannot

1162
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: physically worse than what they were last year. So I

1163
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: think a group, it might take him a while, they

1164
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: might drop some games early in the year as they're

1165
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: getting their sea legs, But Titus Howard, Max Sharping, I

1166
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: think both those kids end up starting early on the season.

1167
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: I think the Technans will be a better team. How

1168
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: you didn't mention Lonnie Johnson in this group, I do

1169
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: not know. Their second round picked the corner out of

1170
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: key Um obviously gonna bring a little toughness, little edge

1171
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: to that secondary. Yeah, I think the Texans got better too.

1172
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna take you to the Ravens here,

1173
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: who were your champions in the a f C North

1174
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: at ten and six. But a lot of turnover on

1175
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: this team. First of all, the biggest piece of turnover

1176
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: happened in the middle of the season Joe Flacco out

1177
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and so Joe Flacco is gone. But then

1178
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: on the defensive side, I mean you're talking about some

1179
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: icons there that are gone. Terrell Suggs is gone. Um.

1180
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: Eric Weddle has been a real stabilizing force there the

1181
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Gone. C J. Moseley. That's where

1182
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: it really comes down to for me, because I think

1183
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas is kind of a net positive. You know,

1184
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: being able to sign him despite losing Eric Weddle to

1185
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: Darius Smith will be a little bit of a loss

1186
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: as well. But they can They've been able to manufacture

1187
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: uh sack production. Um. But C j Mosley. You know,

1188
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: it really depends on how you feel about him, right,

1189
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: and are they gonna be able to replace what he

1190
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: did for their defense. I'm not sure that that is.

1191
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: That's a negative for me, So I'm gonna say they

1192
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: got worse. Yeah, I'm gonna agree with you. I do

1193
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: think that Jalen Ferguson is going to be a good

1194
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: player and fits what they do defensively. Uh, the rookie,

1195
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, you look at Hollywood Brown

1196
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: coming in there. I just think I just think though,

1197
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: when you look at how unique their offense was and

1198
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: and how they operated last year, everybody getting an offseason

1199
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: to kind of break that thing down and try and

1200
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: figure that thing out. I think that that hurts him. Now.

1201
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be a huge fall, but

1202
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: I could see them going from ten and six to

1203
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: eight and eight, nine and seven. That's that's kind of

1204
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: my expectation at this point. Yeah, even though when you

1205
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: got here, let's go and let's go n Yeah, lets

1206
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: you guys just jump over the NFC. Here, we look

1207
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: at the Saints and what they were able to do. Um,

1208
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: you end up adding Jared Cook, who's gonna be scary

1209
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: in that offense. I like Eric McCoy coming in drought.

1210
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: Who's gonna replace Max Unger after he decided to retire?

1211
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 1: You lose mark Ingram? Uh mentioned younger just a second ago.

1212
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: I actually you think this team hopefully Drew Brees. I mean, look,

1213
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: he's getting older at some point time Father time gets

1214
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: all of them. But thirteen and three, Um, I'm gonna

1215
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: say they're the same plus. How about that same plus

1216
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: at the same or maybe a little bits with thirteen wins,

1217
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: It's hard to duplicate, but I could see them being

1218
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: a twelve win team and advancing all the way that

1219
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: we talk about glue guys at the top with Chris Long,

1220
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: I think losing mark Ingram will hurt that locker room

1221
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more than them. Probably gets talked about.

1222
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: Lettebs Murray is a pretty good player. We'll come in there,

1223
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: I think, and probably do pretty well running the ball.

1224
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: But Uh, interested to see what the how they the

1225
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: loss of Ingram effects the overall atmosphere in there. Um,

1226
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: all right, let's move to the Rams. Then at thirteen

1227
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: and three, Uh, they were your NFC West champions, And

1228
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: look that's where I would be looking as a NFC

1229
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: champion in twenty nineteen as well. Um, they'd lose John Sullivan. Uh,

1230
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: they lose Mark Barron. But I mean they added Clay Matthews,

1231
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, and that's that's the one area coming off

1232
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: the edge. Looking for a little extra there. I think

1233
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: that's a win. Eric Weddle will be a great guy

1234
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: to have it back into that secondary. And I like

1235
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: what they did in the draft. I like getting Taylor

1236
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: Rapp in there. I think he could contribute immediately. And

1237
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm just I am very curious as to what I'm

1238
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: gonna see Sean McVey do with Darrell Henderson um running back,

1239
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: So that that's really interesting to me. I think they

1240
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: got better. Okay, you know, look it's interesting. I think

1241
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: when you look at some of the departures with Roger

1242
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: staffold um on that offensive line that would come very underrated.

1243
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: He was almost pay he's a very good player. He's

1244
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: very good. And LaMarcus Joiner, you know, I know they

1245
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: bring in um. Eric Weddle is a great fit there.

1246
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: But LaMarcus Joiner to me as a as a nickel

1247
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: dropping down there. His ability to do that in the

1248
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: different things he could do skill set wise. Um, you

1249
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: know he's he's a he's a pretty versatile player. So

1250
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say you said better. Is that what you

1251
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: went with? I went better? I better come on, come on.

1252
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: I think if Joan and Todd Gurley's hell, if Todd

1253
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: Gurley is healthy, if Todd Gurley is healthy, I'll go

1254
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: with you. Bears. Uh they lose obviously, Vic Fangio. Uh.

1255
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 1: They running back to Jordan Howard safety Adrian Amos. Uh

1256
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: they add in haha, Clinton Dix at the safety position.

1257
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: I love what they did in the draft, even though

1258
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: they didn't pick early, but to get David Montgomery and

1259
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: Riley Ridley, I thought we're both steels. Twelve and four,

1260
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: I think they take a little bit of a step back,

1261
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: and I love check Bagano, but I think Vic the

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Speaker 1: way he had that thing rolling there, I think it's

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Speaker 1: a small step back. This is a This is a

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Speaker 1: ten eleven win team that's still great. Their playoff team.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Twelve and four is gonna happen and

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Speaker 1: could very could very well win the North again with that,

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Speaker 1: with that kind of a record at tenants x eleven five. Um,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with you that Vic

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Speaker 1: Fangio is the biggest loss or add there from that

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Speaker 1: Bears offseason. Okay, so how about the Cowboys to finish

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Speaker 1: this that leads us with the one in the NFC

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Speaker 1: East ten and six champs. Uh, Look, Cold Beasley's gone.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. David Irving, they can never really count

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Speaker 1: on him. They're bringing Robert Quinn. I'm interested to see

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Speaker 1: what what Rod Marinelli and Christopher shar do with him. Um,

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Speaker 1: George Iloca comes in was a productive player for the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: didn't do much after he was spent that season with

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Speaker 1: the Vikings. But I don't know. I I just I

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Speaker 1: kind of think this is kind of a kind of

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Speaker 1: a state of course thing. We saw how good they

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Speaker 1: were once they got a Marie Cooper in the fold.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that they're that much better

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Speaker 1: than ten and six, But I don't know that there's

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Speaker 1: that much worse than tenant six. It's a real tough

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Speaker 1: one for me. I could see them ending up right

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Speaker 1: there ten and six in the thick of the things

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Speaker 1: for the NFC East. Again, it's interesting because I think,

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Speaker 1: especially if Washington can get Dwayne Haskins up and going, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they have a good defense in place there in Washington.

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Speaker 1: You can make a case the Redskins could be a

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Speaker 1: little bit better. You can make the case, Um, you

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Speaker 1: know that the Philadelphia Eagles could take a step forward.

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Speaker 1: I think the expectation is with the Giants. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe this is you know, they losing Nodellbeck and losing

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Speaker 1: some firepower there that could impact them. Maybe they take

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Speaker 1: a small step back. Maybe you see a rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: in Daniel Jones getting in the mix. So to me,

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Speaker 1: I think you got a couple of teams and they're

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Speaker 1: taking a step up on the Giants, maybe a step back.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys again, better or worse. I don't know. They're nine,

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Speaker 1: that's what they are. Yeah, So are we just gonna

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Speaker 1: leave this is the same? Is that how we're going

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Speaker 1: to leave the same? It's the same, it's the same.

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Speaker 1: Change of the rules, it's up, down or even we've

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Speaker 1: just changed the whole. But didn't Peyton say you're never

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Speaker 1: getting you're never getting you know, you're never staying the same.

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Speaker 1: That was a long time ago. Payton doesn't always sit

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Speaker 1: about Come on, that's all that's all right? Uh, that's

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Speaker 1: that's so good, all right, anything else you want to

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Speaker 1: jump in here before we get out of here. Uh no, man,

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Speaker 1: I think I've got a little NFL total access going

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Speaker 1: on this week, So check us out at seven o'clock Eastern,

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Speaker 1: you know tonight. I'm staying busy after Path to the Draft.

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Speaker 1: But I love that. Man, you're working way too much.

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Speaker 1: I try not to work that that hard at one

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Speaker 1: time here. But the razor away all right, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: know I just shaved the day. Man. I think it's good.

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Speaker 1: Nice um all right, Well, hey, appreciate uh hythe them

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Speaker 1: running the show for Bucky's getting Bucky getting a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a break. But you know, Bucky, he's not

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Speaker 1: really out there coaching doing something, you know, resting, He's

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Speaker 1: he's out he's doing an internship with the CFL. He's

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Speaker 1: got all kinds of stuff going on. Bucky's all over

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Speaker 1: the place. So we'll get Bucky back here before too long.

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Speaker 1: But we always love having you with us here, Wrett.

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Speaker 1: And that was a fun show. Thank you appreciate it, man,

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Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna do it for us. Thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for downloading, subscribing, tell a friend as well. We

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Speaker 1: do appreciate it. Uh, it has been fun getting back

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Speaker 1: with you on the Move the Sticks podcast. Remember, check

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Speaker 1: out our videos NFL dot com, slash mts video or

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Speaker 1: the YouTube channel. Go to the NFL on YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: You can find us there. That's gonna do it for us.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Right here, I'll move the

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Speaker 1: sticks