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Speaker 1: let's start with this question. Oh, some nice words, huge

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Speaker 1: through when it mattered. My question is about coaching during

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Speaker 1: Who's making the call in that scenario? Is it Brady

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to assume that they thought, and

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Speaker 1: short yarded situations and it was not working in that game. Now,

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Speaker 1: lets him call the game and if he's got an opinion,

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Speaker 1: Hey Joe, let's, uh, let's mix in a screen pass.

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Speaker 1: Hey Joe, let's let's mix in a play action bootleg. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's the boss. I don't know. That's a

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Speaker 1: great question. I think because they kept running it, I

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Speaker 1: But not only did they not throw a curveball. They

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Speaker 1: were like throwing BP fastballs. Mike Carolina Panther fan here.

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Speaker 1: But have we graduated from the little porta potty Panthers.

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Speaker 1: It was a roller coaster for Canalis and even Bryce.

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Speaker 1: And he's brought his buddies with him. Now am I

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Speaker 1: Uh Travis Hunter being a two way player and made

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Speaker 1: What Field Yates or Matt Miller or Dane Brugler or

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Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick or anyone that likes talking about the draft

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Speaker 1: is going to say a couple of days after me,

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Speaker 1: it does not mel kiper I don't give a flying

429
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Speaker 1: you know what. But if you're some new don't have

430
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Speaker 1: many pelts on the wall like the Jets. Can the

431
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Speaker 1: Jets just get crazy, you better be careful. Look at

432
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris last year, like that was a little clunky,

433
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: weird situation. And let's face it already feels a little

434
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Speaker 1: weird going into your two. Now, if if a guy,

435
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Speaker 1: if Mike Tomlin had done that, it's like, yeah, he's

436
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Speaker 1: been doing this for fifteen, seventeen, eighteen, twenty years. So

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Speaker 1: it kind of depends on your status of where you stand.

438
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Speaker 1: Like whatever Kevin O'Connell wanted to do, whether it was

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Speaker 1: Keith Sam Darnold, whether it was signed Aaron Rodgers, whether

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Speaker 1: it's go JJ Like he's kind of earn the benefit

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Speaker 1: of doubt. Two of the last three years have been

442
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Speaker 1: really good, Like we think he knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a rent. Could Mike McDaniel

444
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Speaker 1: pull that off, probably not, even though they both have

445
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Speaker 1: the same amount of playoff wins zero. What about the

446
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Speaker 1: Chargers trading for Michael Mayer, the tight end the Raiders

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Speaker 1: draft that it thirty five two years ago. I bet

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Speaker 1: Pete is wanting to grab more picks, maybe a fourth

449
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Speaker 1: rounder of ours. I think Pete went to the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: He traded Marshawn for a fourth He traded for Marshawn

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Speaker 1: he did. I just don't think the Raiders are trading

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Speaker 1: with the Chargers. It's one thing on the clock or

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Speaker 1: during the draft to make trades with picks. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you're trading a player Pete Carroll's doing a deal

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Speaker 1: with Jim Harball. I just and I don't think you can. Like,

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Speaker 1: if you're the Raiders and you are willing to trade

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Speaker 1: Mayor to another team, you're not trading to Sean Bayton

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Speaker 1: or Jim Harbaugh or Andy Reid. He just not getting

459
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Speaker 1: traded there. Could you trade him the Jets or something?

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00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: For sure, you keep him in the AFC, but you're

461
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Speaker 1: not trading him to one of those teams unless they're

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Speaker 1: willing to give you a super high pick, and they're

463
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Speaker 1: just not going to love the pod listening all the

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Speaker 1: way from the UK. I appreciate you. My question is,

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Speaker 1: how did you meet Coward and build a good relationship

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Speaker 1: with him? I think I met him on I don't

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Speaker 1: think I met him through Twitter. I think we DMD

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Speaker 1: probably like two thousand fourteen ish, fifteen ish maybe, and

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Speaker 1: he had me on it. It would have been fourteen

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Speaker 1: because I went on his ESPN radio show for several years.

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00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: He would just have me on as a guest and then, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's I think we met online. Slid into my DM,

473
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: so I slid into his because when I was doing

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Speaker 1: radio stuff, Phil Savage and Lewis Riddick were working at

475
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: ESPN and they would go on Coward show. So he

476
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: started following me, and you know, there was a lot

477
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Speaker 1: of connections there and Colin just liked football, so started

478
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Speaker 1: having me on. You know what's crazy is like you

479
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: go on a show now it's a television show. Back

480
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: then you would just call in and this isn't that

481
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: long ago. There's like fourteen and fifteen at ESPN Radio

482
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: and he was their biggest radio star. Shows you how

483
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Speaker 1: much shit has changed. I mean, you listen to ESPN

484
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: Radio now, fucking thing's gonna fold. Okay, Joshua, I'm a

485
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Speaker 1: Lions fan, and it feels like Brad Holmes is betting

486
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: on continually or betting on continuity this year, basically running

487
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: it back. A lot of fans wanted a splash move,

488
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: especially at edge, but with upcoming extensions for Hutchinson, Branch

489
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: and Kirby, I get why they're playing it safe. Curious

490
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Speaker 1: to hear your take. Do you prefer the long term

491
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Speaker 1: window approach, keeping the roster deep and sustainable for multiple shots,

492
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: but would you lean toward going all in? Listen, I

493
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Speaker 1: always I will always support any GM that wants to

494
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Speaker 1: take a very very bold move, trading a bunch of

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Speaker 1: picks for an established player. The Rams did it multiple times.

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Speaker 1: You know, teams that have traded for Tyreek Hill and

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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams. Like, I always understand why these moves happen,

498
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: but it takes two to tango. Like the reason that

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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams ended up on the Raiders is because, like

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Speaker 1: the Packers were willing to trade him. The reason the

501
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: Niners land at Christian McCaffrey is like he was available.

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Speaker 1: So I hate and listen, I talked about this too.

503
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Speaker 1: It's like, go get Miles Garrett or Max Crosby. Well,

504
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: those two guys got to combine like two hundred and

505
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Speaker 1: fifty million dollars. They clearly were not available. If Miles

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Speaker 1: Garrett was available and they didn't make if not the

507
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Speaker 1: best offer, like one of the best offers, then yeah,

508
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Speaker 1: I think you could be critical of him. Both those

509
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Speaker 1: guys resigned, and those were the two guys we kept

510
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Speaker 1: talking about who else, Like who else you trading for?

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Speaker 1: So I have a hard time criticizing them at all.

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Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't think there was any available options.

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Speaker 1: Another Lions fan question, I feel like we're totally underrated

514
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Speaker 1: and overlooked. Why are they easy to disrespect? Was it

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Speaker 1: the history golf kneecaps? I think your guys are pretty

516
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Speaker 1: highly thought of. I think when people say best teams

517
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Speaker 1: in the NFC, Eagles are unanum's first pick right now.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Lions are really really high up there.

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Speaker 1: It's like you get a little pass this year, a

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Speaker 1: million injuries. Now do you think it's fair? Two new coordinators?

521
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Speaker 1: But they got to have one of the best rosters

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. I mean, all the guys are coming back.

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Speaker 1: I think your history for sure. I mean, you guys

524
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: are pretty bad for a long time, can't help. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's I think i'd be pretty excited

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Speaker 1: if I was a Lions fan. Why is nobody talking

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Speaker 1: about the Commanders as a candidate for a sophomore slump.

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Speaker 1: They remind me of the Texans last year coming off

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Speaker 1: a great season. Rookie head coach and quarterback Dan Quinn's

530
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Speaker 1: not a rookie head coach. But I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I know the Commanders made it the title game, but

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Speaker 1: the Texans also won a playoff game in their first

533
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Speaker 1: year the NFC. The NFC East will have three good

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Speaker 1: teams and the Commanders are on a second schedule, so

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Speaker 1: it feels like they are poised for some regression. Not

536
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: to mention everyone having more film on Jaden, progression is

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Speaker 1: not linear. I do think it's hard to guess regression teams.

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Speaker 1: Like I looked at the Texans this year, I thought

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Speaker 1: they were gonna be good. They add daneil Hunter. You

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Speaker 1: just thought like they were poised, you know, CJ would

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Speaker 1: take a next step. It turns out their offensive line sucked.

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Speaker 1: What's his name? Tank Dell shatters his leg again, they

543
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: clearly would just warned it they couldn't run the ball.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming. I mean, I had a

545
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Speaker 1: bet on them to have the number one overall seat.

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Speaker 1: So I guess sometimes it's like socks, you gotta when

547
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: everyone is betting, you gotta fade. I almost I had been.

548
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: I have a little bet on Rory, but I was

549
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: going to place one of the biggest wages I ever

550
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Speaker 1: have made on a golf tournament, at least on an

551
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: individual to win the last twenty four hours. But everything

552
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: I listened to was like, Roy's gonna win the Masters.

553
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: Roy's gonna win the Masters, Roy's gonna win the Masters,

554
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: and listen, I've lived long enough. When everyone thinks one

555
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: thing is gonna happen when it comes to sports, when

556
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: it comes to stocks, when it comes to just betting

557
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: on something, that's usually when you get cautious. Like when

558
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: everyone's freaking out stock market, that's when you buy. Now

559
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: everyone's freaking out, like the dolphins are probably gonna suck,

560
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: Like I agree, but it was like I don't. So

561
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: I got cold feet and I didn't do it. And

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00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm glad because we double bogie too. The last like

563
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Speaker 1: four holes and shut even par But the Commanders are

564
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those teams that everyone's gonna pick

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00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: next year to be really really good. It's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna I kind of agree, Like we have two

567
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Speaker 1: years now out of Jaden playing at a high level.

568
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: LSU two years ago dominated SEC best player in the

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Speaker 1: country by far last year. I mean, it was pretty

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Speaker 1: remarkable to watch, and to me, it's not just like

571
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Speaker 1: freelance plays like Deshaun when he was at Houston had

572
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Speaker 1: like his breakout years. He was really good, but a

573
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Speaker 1: lot of it was like outside the pocket he was

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Speaker 1: a great playmaker. He was just a great instinctive playmaker

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Speaker 1: outside the tackles, a little like Russell Wilson. He was.

576
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Speaker 1: He was like a young version of prime Russell Wilson.

577
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Speaker 1: Immediately DeShawn was, but that's not that sustainable all the time,

578
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: and then he lost his mojo and those plays don't

579
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: happen anymore. You watch him now, he sucks. Jayden is

580
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: not like some Russell Wilson. Deshaun Watson freelance player stood

581
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: him in the pocket throw darts like he's Mahomes or

582
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Matt Stafford. So It's like the way

583
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: he plays now. You would say the same thing for CJ.

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00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: CJ was a pocket quarterback and it just it was

585
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: just off. But Kingsbury has been calling plays for a

586
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: lot longer now. His scheme makes me a little nervous.

587
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: But Yad Debo, Yad Tunsil, Terry's a really good player.

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00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: You think their defense is gonna be better. I mean,

589
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's been doing this for a long time. I

590
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: could see this happening them not being in the NFC

591
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: title game but having another playoff year. Here's my theory

592
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Speaker 1: as to why every as to why people are so

593
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: worked up over the NIL, it has everything to do

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Speaker 1: with fans investment in a singular team. I would argue

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00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: that ninety percent of college football fans are captivated with

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Speaker 1: one team, and they know about the other teams through

597
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: the media that they consume and watching games. As someone

598
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: who doesn't have a strong allegiance to a huge school,

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Speaker 1: I think it makes perfect sense if you are way

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Speaker 1: less worried about NIL. I totally agree, and I think

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00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: you're right right. I mean, most people I know that

602
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: are diehard fans of a given team, A decent amount

603
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: of them went to that school, or they grew up

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Speaker 1: either in that area or their dad or parents or

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Speaker 1: someone went to that school. Right, You're right, they have

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00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: a connection. So who's not freaking out about nil Texas fans,

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00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: Ohio State fans, Oregon fans like there is, Michigan fans,

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00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: Penn State fans, like all the teams buying all the

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00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: sweet players, Miami fans, Georgia fans, not really losing anybody

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Speaker 1: beside the top, like six seven teams. Notre Dame feels

611
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: like pretty cocky right now, Bama, LSU, some of these

612
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: other teams kind of just feel a little on edge.

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Speaker 1: It's like this this used to be a little easier USC,

614
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: right And obviously if you're a fan of like that

615
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: second tier like Wisconsin, Iowa, I'm trying to think, you know,

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Speaker 1: Boston College, I don't even know. I wouldn't put them

617
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Speaker 1: on equal, but you know what i mean, it's like,

618
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: got is this a Missippi State? Is this a fair fight?

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Speaker 1: And the answer is no, So I'm totally with you.

620
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: Like if it was the NFL, if Steeler fans like, hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: this offseason TJ and Minca just left. Minca signed with

622
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Speaker 1: the Kansay Chiefs, and TJ went to the rams like

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Speaker 1: what are you talking about. I'm like, oh, yeah, the

624
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: the NFL for a year out of the transfer portal

625
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: and your contract doesn't count. You'd be like what, people

626
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: would be furious. So I think I think you hit

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Speaker 1: the nail on the head. And as someone that like

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Speaker 1: you said, I don't have allegiance to any of these schools.

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Speaker 1: I macal Pauly Fresnel State guy, I feel for Fresne State,

630
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: but I also don't really feel bad like they, you know,

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00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: the Fresno States just aren't on the tier with these

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Speaker 1: other programs. I honestly like I would have had no problem.

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00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: Now Boyse deserved to make it last year, but like they,

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Speaker 1: the non Power four should not get a guaranteed seat

635
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Speaker 1: at the table. I'd even argue, like the Big Twelve,

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't be guaranteed. A team in Arizona State showed

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Speaker 1: but I think on a yearly basis, if you go

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Speaker 1: Twelve doesn't mean that you get a seat at the table.

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Speaker 1: If you say the same thing for the ACC, it

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Speaker 1: was pretty bad last year. Now, if you're if you

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Speaker 1: these other programs, you'd be like, shut up, John, we're

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Speaker 1: getting automatic bids. We should get multiple teams. It's like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I hear you. Well, then I watch SMU play Penn

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Speaker 1: I hear you. Good email, have a great day, audios,

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Speaker 1: and enjoy the weekend. The volume