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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Joe Biden can't hide from the fact

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Speaker 1: that he is the president of high gas prices, and

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Speaker 1: they're looking for anyone to blame, whether it's Putin, whether

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Speaker 1: it's Republicans, whether it's the energy companies, whether it's COVID.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats have a very big problem with forty year

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Speaker 1: high inflation, highest gas prices ever. When Joe Biden came

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Speaker 1: into office, it was two dollars and thirty eight cents

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Speaker 1: a gallon for gasoline. American families paid a thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: more george for energy last year than the year before,

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Speaker 1: and on polling last week, seventy percent of Americans say

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Speaker 1: more American oil and gas and less emphasis on climate,

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Speaker 1: less emphasis on climates or John Barrasso, there he gets it.

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Speaker 1: This is what has led to so many of the

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Speaker 1: otherwise inexplicably self defeating and absurd policies around energy that

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Speaker 1: the Democrats are always pushing for, which the only upside

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Speaker 1: is the fight against the imaginary war with CO two

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Speaker 1: that we're supposed to be waging all the time. But

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Speaker 1: it really hurts families. I mean a thousand dollars in

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Speaker 1: extra energy cost. The all time high gas price was

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Speaker 1: just last week in this country was hit last week.

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Speaker 1: Gas prices are down, I think down seven cents from

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Speaker 1: last week now, but still very high, which means all

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Speaker 1: the products you buy are quite expensive and the things

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Speaker 1: that you need are going to be taking a bigger

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Speaker 1: bite out of your budget all across the country. This

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Speaker 1: is reality. Now. There are two ways that they're going

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Speaker 1: to go at this because they recognize they got a

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Speaker 1: big problem going into the midterms when the economy is

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Speaker 1: crappy and people are feeling the effects of high inflation increasingly,

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Speaker 1: people are talking about stagflation clay and maybe even a

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Speaker 1: looming recession here, depending on what economic growth is this quarter.

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Speaker 1: When that's happening, you don't have a lot of folks

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Speaker 1: excite go and vote for the party in power that's

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Speaker 1: made a lot of bad decisions. So what is Elizabeth

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Speaker 1: Warren offering on this? Well, this is actually a flashback

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Speaker 1: to March thirteenth, he was on MSNBC. But you're gonna

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Speaker 1: hear a lot more of this. H those big greedy corporations.

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Speaker 1: Senator white House and I and others have introduced a

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Speaker 1: windfall profits tax That says, if you're out there price gouging,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to give up a big chunk of

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Speaker 1: your ill dotton gains. That's the best way I know

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Speaker 1: to be able to push back against these oil companies.

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Speaker 1: This isn't like democratic Western europe socialism so much as

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Speaker 1: it starts to sound more like straight up Venezuela maduro socialism.

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Speaker 1: Forlizeth Warren, you're greedy company, Clay, your greedy oil company.

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Speaker 1: The profits are too high, so we're just going to

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Speaker 1: take it from you. Well, well, and again, how do

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Speaker 1: you define what a windfall profit is? That is a

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Speaker 1: massive difficulty. That would be ripe for exploitation, right because

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Speaker 1: if let's say, these oil and gas companies are making

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Speaker 1: more money. Again, I go back to the Democrats not

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Speaker 1: really understanding how business works, because so much of what

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Speaker 1: they say is you know this, they made this much

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Speaker 1: money and they only paid this much tax. The tax

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Speaker 1: code is broken. Let's just say that sight. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I am a long term believer that if you and

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Speaker 1: I are pretty smart people, right in a grand scheme

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Speaker 1: of things, I have no idea how to do my

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Speaker 1: taxes at this I'm not zero I mean, there are

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Speaker 1: so many different moving parts. I give everything to my

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Speaker 1: accountant and I say, you know, handle it. Let me

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Speaker 1: know what I need to write a check for, let

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Speaker 1: me know if I'm getting a refund. I have no

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Speaker 1: earthly idea, and I guarantee you the vast majority of

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Speaker 1: people out there who are in any way involved in

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Speaker 1: owning a business or trying to. I mean, it's broken.

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Speaker 1: So this idea of a windfall profits tax is broken

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Speaker 1: at inception because our tax code really should be. And

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Speaker 1: this is where one of those things Steve Forbes got

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Speaker 1: right back in the day. You should be able to

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Speaker 1: pay your taxes by filing, you know, like a postcard. Right.

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Speaker 1: Everybody should understand what they're paying. Everybody should play. In

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Speaker 1: my opinion, in an ideal world, we would all pay

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Speaker 1: a flat tax. We would know exactly what we owe,

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Speaker 1: there would be no complexity to it. I have zero

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Speaker 1: confidence in the Democratic Party, which doesn't understand basic business

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Speaker 1: right now, being able to try to make the oil

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Speaker 1: and gas industry better, when the reason why we're not

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Speaker 1: producing as much oil and gas as we possibly could

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Speaker 1: buck is because they already have regulated us away from

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Speaker 1: being able to do that. So now when you challenge

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Speaker 1: these oil and gas companies, you're going to further disincentivize

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Speaker 1: them from producing more oil and gas. That's the actual

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Speaker 1: what the impact of this would be. So you have

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Speaker 1: the demoni the corporations, which is what you're just talking about, taking,

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Speaker 1: taking their windfall profits, tax and all this stuff. That's

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Speaker 1: one option for the Democrats because the make things better economically,

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Speaker 1: get out of the way, less regulation, push for fossil

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Speaker 1: fuel energy production to be an absolute maximum in this country.

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Speaker 1: Democrats ain't gonna do that. That's not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: So they're looking at going into a mid term with

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Speaker 1: a weak economy and people upset understandably about it. So

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Speaker 1: on the one hand, clad they had the class warfare angle,

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Speaker 1: which Elizabeth Warren multi multimilliona Elizabeth Warren is great at

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Speaker 1: playing right, Oh, I care so much about you. She's

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Speaker 1: worth like fourteen million herself. Yeah. Then the other one

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Speaker 1: is buy a tesla peasant or in this case, eat

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Speaker 1: some lentils and take the bus peasants. This was amazing

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Opinion first of all, with the Captain Obvious Award

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Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Opinion for the last month, maybe forever, This

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Speaker 1: is from the piece Inflation stings most if you earn

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Speaker 1: less than three hundred thousand dollars a year. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: don't say, here's how to deal with it. It turns

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Speaker 1: out millionaires care less clay and even half millionaires care

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Speaker 1: less about inflation than people who are working for wages

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Speaker 1: under three hundred k. Here's how they say to deal

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Speaker 1: with it. And I'm serious, I'm actually reading to you

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Speaker 1: from a Bloomberg opinion piece. Here, everybody, take the bus,

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Speaker 1: don't buy in bulk, Try lentils instead of meat. And

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Speaker 1: nobody said this would be fun. This is This is

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Speaker 1: the the elites who think they understand economics are like,

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Speaker 1: put that cheeseburger down. Peasant inflations running high, plus the

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Speaker 1: carbon emissions for the cow a too high. Eat your

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Speaker 1: lentil patty in silence. Here also is a bad idea

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Speaker 1: of why every journalist just about shouldn't live in New

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Speaker 1: York City and LA or San Francisco because to them

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Speaker 1: three hundred You know this, buck, if you live in

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Speaker 1: New York City, like, three hundred thousand dollars in New

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Speaker 1: York City is a lot of money, but you aren't

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Speaker 1: rich if you have three hundred thousand dollars in New

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Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of the places that people live in

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Speaker 1: the United States, you're doing really, really well for yourself.

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Speaker 1: But you have this idiot journalist, I don't even know

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Speaker 1: how they picked you. Agree with that buck three hundred

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Speaker 1: are already knows this. If you're living in New York City,

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Speaker 1: author of Laptop from Hell, Hunter Biden, Big Tech and

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Speaker 1: Welcome back Ed Clay, Travis Buck Sex to show we're

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Speaker 1: rolling through the Monday edition and Buck, you know that

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Speaker 1: I've been arguing for a long time that the sports

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Speaker 1: media is even more biased than the political media, which

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Speaker 1: coming out of this hundred Biden discussion that we're having,

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Speaker 1: this one is even crazier to think about. So ESPN

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Speaker 1: is not covering the transgender swimmer story, which happened all

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Speaker 1: this week and through the weekend. A six foot four

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Speaker 1: man Will Thomas decided to become a woman and change

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Speaker 1: his name to Leah Thomas and won the five hundred

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Speaker 1: swim competition over every other woman in college athletics. ESPN

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Speaker 1: Buck just pretended this story basically didn't exist because they

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Speaker 1: don't know how to cover it because it threatens the

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Speaker 1: very essence of women's sports. What they did cover they

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Speaker 1: had the women's NCUBAA tournament on and they decided that

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Speaker 1: they were going to take a stand against the Don't

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Speaker 1: Say Gay bill, even though the bill in Florida that

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Speaker 1: we talked about doesn't actually say gay in any way.

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Speaker 1: This occurred on ESPN. They had a moment of protest.

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Speaker 1: I want you to listen to this. This is nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with the world of sports at all. Buck.

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Speaker 1: This is a next level crazy move by ESPN, which

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Speaker 1: has gone full on woke insanity. MS ESPN listen to

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Speaker 1: this legislation happening in Florida and across other states as

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Speaker 1: well that are targeting our LGBTQI plus communities. Many of

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Speaker 1: our colleagues here at ESPN have planned and organized a

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Speaker 1: walkout that will be happening at three pm Eastern today,

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Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, we thought we were

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Speaker 1: going to come here today and really celebrate a sport

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Speaker 1: that has meant so much and done so much, including

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Speaker 1: for so many in the LGBTQI plus communities. But we

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Speaker 1: understand the gravity of this legislation and also how it

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Speaker 1: is affecting so many families across this country. And because

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Speaker 1: of that, our ally ship is going to take a

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Speaker 1: front seat, and with that, we're going to pause in solidarity. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think what crazy that is? I mean, like, I

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Speaker 1: can see your face as you're listening. This is ESPN.

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Speaker 1: This is a sports network that was not some you know,

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Speaker 1: like somebody's instagram on. If you're watching the women's college

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Speaker 1: basketball tournament on ESPN, that's what you suddenly heard. And

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Speaker 1: then a pause programming. First of all, didn't did she

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Speaker 1: say lgbtq iya, what's the what's the I I thought

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Speaker 1: you might know. I was I thought you might knows people.

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Speaker 1: Are they a part of the crew now or is

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Speaker 1: it indigenous? No? No, Intersex I think is probably what

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Speaker 1: it is. But what does intersex even mean? I don't

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Speaker 1: know what that um that means. That was there was

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Speaker 1: a previous term that would have been used for that

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Speaker 1: where you have both By the way, I could be wrong.

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Speaker 1: That's a guess. So if anyone don't. No one yelled

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Speaker 1: at me, I'm I'm guessing what the acronym edition when

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Speaker 1: you have two different like bias that like your Yes,

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Speaker 1: there was a previous term. Now that term, by the way,

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Speaker 1: which we had all learned, which begins within an h

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Speaker 1: is uh is considering even if I knew that, you're

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Speaker 1: not allowed to use that term now it's concern now

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Speaker 1: it's called intersex. But that is actually for the biological

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Speaker 1: reality of gender of what would be a percentage chance

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Speaker 1: occurs where you might be born both male. There is

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Speaker 1: there is sort of a bigender situation. Usually it's more

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Speaker 1: one than the other. But if that's not what the

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Speaker 1: transgender debate is actually about. So just to be clear,

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Speaker 1: intersect is usually kept into a separate category. Anyway, I

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Speaker 1: think that's what the eyes put that. But even just still,

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting like ESPN introducing me to a new extension

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Speaker 1: of the acron plus. Doesn't the plus cover the eye? Like?

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Speaker 1: Isn't the whole point of the LGBTQ plus that as

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Speaker 1: just say, the plus can barely keep up now, you know,

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Speaker 1: But imagine you're sitting down because and by the way,

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Speaker 1: the funny thing about this is it was during the

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Speaker 1: South Carolina women's game. And I'm not making this up, buck,

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Speaker 1: they were up forty four to four on the Howard

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Speaker 1: women's team, the one versus the sixteen seed, So the

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Speaker 1: moment of silence really should have been for Howard's women's

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Speaker 1: basketball team. But imagine you're sitting down to watch this

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Speaker 1: with your kids, and then suddenly this anchor comes on

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Speaker 1: talking about the don't Say Gay bills and pauses programming.

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Speaker 1: This has a like, almost like a Soviet feel where

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Speaker 1: you're watching sports and then all of a sudden you're

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Speaker 1: just gonna break in and give you some kind of

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Speaker 1: political PROPAGAINDA messaging in the middle of it. It's bizarre, um,

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Speaker 1: But you know from what you you always tell me

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Speaker 1: this because you come from a sports world background. That

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Speaker 1: it's more work than political political media. And I think

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Speaker 1: about this, who in the who in the sports media

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Speaker 1: will say that. In the sports media, a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: you know, we have friends you know at Fox and

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Speaker 1: The and the Daily Wire and the Blaze and all

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00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: over who agree with us that the trans athlete competition

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00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: thing is just flatly absurd, insane and wrong. Another thing

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Speaker 1: about that, I like that the woman who was who

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Speaker 1: didn't make it to the Ncuba finals came out and said,

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Speaker 1: Leah Thomas stole my spot, because that is the truth.

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00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: Leah Thomas stole her spot. That should never have happened.

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Speaker 1: But in the sports media, you would think there would

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Speaker 1: be some voices it's OutKick, it's OutKick, and that's it. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, nobody else will even cut buck. What about barstool.

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Speaker 1: They don't even they don't even get on the barstool,

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Speaker 1: Like they are so afraid because of the controversy that

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Speaker 1: they've gotten in the past that they try and steer

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Speaker 1: clear of almost all political related issues. So they really

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Speaker 1: won't cover this. This is a litmus test because if

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Speaker 1: you are not even a conservative, if you are a

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Speaker 1: rationalist and you cover sports and you see this happening.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know, Lee. It makes sense when you see

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Speaker 1: the photos. Leah Thomas is six foot four. Yeah, the women,

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Speaker 1: the actual women. Leah Thomas is swimming against what you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe whatever, but I mean it's so. It is the

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Speaker 1: visual manifestation of the absurdity that we are all told

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Speaker 1: not only to accept, to celebrate, which is always the

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Speaker 1: next step. It starts with be nice, let's be inclusive,

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Speaker 1: and then it's just treat everybody like you know, put

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Speaker 1: everybody in the same category. And then it's no, we

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Speaker 1: have to elevate and you have to bend the knee

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Speaker 1: and accept this and and excite get excited about it.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting here to me, Buck is this is such

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Speaker 1: an extension, right because initially you could that there was

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Speaker 1: at least a tacit connection between the world of sports

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Speaker 1: and politics, right, that was the fig leaf they would use.

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Speaker 1: Lebron James says, I'm not going to go to the

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Speaker 1: White House because Donald Trump is there to celebrate winning

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Speaker 1: a championship. Oh will Tom Brady be there or not

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Speaker 1: at the White House to celebrate with his Patriot teammates

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Speaker 1: or is he going to stay away? What did Gizelle

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Speaker 1: say to him, that was sort of the nexus that

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00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: would allow them to cover left wing politics. Fuck, that

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00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: was just a SportsCenter anchor coming out on a by

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00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: the way, local Florida bill that really will not impact

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00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: hardly anyone. But for those who don't forgotten, it's kindergarten

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Speaker 1: the third grade. They're not going to allow sex to

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Speaker 1: be taught in public schools for kindergarteners through third graders.

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Speaker 1: There's no sports connection to it at all. One way

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Speaker 1: that you know that this is what if we just

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Speaker 1: made it, I mean if I were and Ronda Santis

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Speaker 1: has on offense as he should about what is actually

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Speaker 1: called the Parental Rights I believe the Parental Rights in

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Speaker 1: Education Bill in Florida, And people don't even realize the

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Speaker 1: activists were so aggressive in renaming the bill and getting

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Speaker 1: the media to do their bidding. I think very few

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Speaker 1: people still even know it's the Parental Rights and Education Bill.

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Speaker 1: But there's a hysteria on the left not only about

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Speaker 1: the LGPDQI plus agenda as it plays out here, but

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Speaker 1: also they know that parental Rights in Education is a

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Speaker 1: huge vulnerability for them going into the midterms. They know

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Speaker 1: that this They got their clocks cleaned in Virginia on

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Speaker 1: the left because what did what did our new governor

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Speaker 1: Younkin or their new governor Younkin do? He just said

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Speaker 1: parents should have rights and he actually followed through on

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Speaker 1: that as soon as he came into office. Clay, I

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Speaker 1: think that as people learn more about this, they'll realize

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Speaker 1: how crazy the left is. But beyond that, what if

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Speaker 1: we just made it kindergartners. What if the bill just said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, until the first grade, you can't Is

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Speaker 1: that a problem? And then you start to say, okay,

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Speaker 1: we're only talking about up until third grade, which is

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Speaker 1: you know, these are really young young kids. Gender identity

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Speaker 1: and sexuality training in the school system for kids who

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Speaker 1: are six, seven, eight years old. As I said before,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm pretty sure some days I woke up

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Speaker 1: And I didn't expect anybody to, you know, take me

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Speaker 1: when their little kids are very impressionable, they don't, you know,

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Speaker 1: You have kids, Yes, there's a reason why you don't

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Speaker 1: let your six year old make all the determinations about

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Speaker 1: their day to day lives. Yeah, as my wife has

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Speaker 1: said for a long time, I mean, in response to

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Speaker 1: pick all their meals because if we did, they would

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Speaker 1: eat candy exclusively because they're six and they like the

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Speaker 1: a moment. Great conversation we have with Miranda Divine in

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Speaker 1: the New York Post at the top of this hour

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Speaker 1: talking about the laptop of Hunter Biden and the final

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Speaker 1: acknowledgement seventeen or eighteen months after the reporting from the

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Speaker 1: New York Post that came from the New York Times.

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Speaker 1: We're joined now by Seth Dylan, who is with the

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Speaker 1: Babylon B. He does fantastic work there and right now

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Speaker 1: the Babylon b is locked out of its Twitter account

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Speaker 1: over a I believe it was a joke surrounding the

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Speaker 1: HHS Commissioner of some level at in the Biden administration

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Speaker 1: that may have also involved Leah Thomas. I'm not sure exactly.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring in Seth and find out what the atist

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Speaker 1: is there, Seth, what was the joke, what was the headline?

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Speaker 1: You guys do fantastic work, and what is Twitter doing?

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Speaker 1: Kind of fill in our audience great questions. First of all,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. I appreciate it, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: being with us. So, yeah, Rachel Levine was named one

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Speaker 1: of the Women of the Year by Ustate today and

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Speaker 1: we did like a satirical take on that where we

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Speaker 1: actually selected Rachel Levine as our pick for Men of

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Speaker 1: the Year. And Twitter didn't like that very much. So

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Speaker 1: that ran afoul of their hateful conduct policy where we

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Speaker 1: misgendered somebody targeted an individual for misgendering. So they flagged

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Speaker 1: that post and told us that we can only unlock

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Speaker 1: our account if we delete that post. And basically what

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Speaker 1: they're saying is, you know, we have to go we

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Speaker 1: go through this form, we have to telp this form

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Speaker 1: and acknowledge that we did in fact violate the hateful

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Speaker 1: conduct policy and take down the tweet, otherwise our account

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Speaker 1: remained blocked and seth What is your position on this

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Speaker 1: right now? I mean a lot of people I know

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Speaker 1: in the past have just said, oh fine, I'll delete

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Speaker 1: the I'll delete the offending tweet. Are are you taking

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Speaker 1: a hard line one way or the other on this? Well,

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Speaker 1: we feel we feel kind of obligated to. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a situation here where we have to make a choice.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have to choose between like keeping this

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Speaker 1: platform and the audience that we're connected to through this platform,

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Speaker 1: or standing by our principles. And this is a situation

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Speaker 1: where they want us to basically affirm something that we

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Speaker 1: don't affirm, or deny something that we want to affirm

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Speaker 1: that a man is a man, and so, you know,

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Speaker 1: in order to do that, to delete the tweet ourselves,

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Speaker 1: you know, Twitter, this is the thing. Twitter could delete

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Speaker 1: this tweet if they want to, because they don't want

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Speaker 1: it on their platform. Why are they making us do it?

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Speaker 1: This is about submission, It's about ideological conformity. It's about

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Speaker 1: it's about forcing us, compelling us to go along with

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Speaker 1: their definitions and their understanding of reality. And we disagree

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Speaker 1: with that, and so um, you know, there's kind of

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Speaker 1: like this, how could be in good conscience delete this thing?

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Speaker 1: We had an internal discussion and decided we couldn't. Seth.

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Speaker 1: I'm also curious, does a human being from Twitter engage

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Speaker 1: with you on any of this. Is there like a

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Speaker 1: rep you can call or someone you can talk to

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Speaker 1: you to try to appeal this, or is it all

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Speaker 1: just kind of form email and messages saying this is

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Speaker 1: the deal? Well, initially, when they notify you of these things,

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Speaker 1: it's an automated email that goes out whether a human

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Speaker 1: actually reviewed this before that email is triggered or not.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. We haven't been contacted by Twitter

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Speaker 1: yet up to this point. There's now a lot of

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Speaker 1: media attention on this, as you're aware, So we were

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Speaker 1: trending throughout most of the day this morning on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: So we may yet get contacted by them. We're seeking

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Speaker 1: out contacts over there to talk to somebody over there,

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Speaker 1: But they do have an appeal process that we can

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Speaker 1: try to go through, which will pursue We just you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't hold out high hopes for that to work

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Speaker 1: out in our favor. Seth. I ran a media company,

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Speaker 1: as you know, an OutKick for a while, and I

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Speaker 1: know how value referral traffic can be from social media accounts.

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Speaker 1: So whenever these companies, whether it's Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, whoever

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Speaker 1: it might be, takes action against individual content providers like

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Speaker 1: the Babylon b or OutKick, that has a significant impact

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Speaker 1: in terms of the revenue and site traffic that can

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Speaker 1: be generated. What does Twitter shutting down effectively the Babylon

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Speaker 1: Bee's account due to your ability to monetize your content? Man,

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Speaker 1: it's huge. I mean it's hard to overstate it. You know,

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Speaker 1: Twitter is not it's not our top traffic refer but

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Speaker 1: it's one of them. Um. Yeah, We've long since been

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Speaker 1: driven more traffic through Facebook than than we do through Twitter.

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Speaker 1: It's just more geared towards that. People tend to stay

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Speaker 1: on Twitter more and retweet things than than link and

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Speaker 1: then click through to the to the links that you've

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Speaker 1: posted there. But but you know it's you're you're part

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Speaker 1: of the conversation when you're on Twitter. This is where

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Speaker 1: public discourse happens. This is where all the people who

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Speaker 1: will never migrate to parlor and get her in these

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Speaker 1: alternative platforms um gad and the like. Um, they're you know,

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Speaker 1: they're they're staying on Twitter. That's where the conversation is.

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Speaker 1: That's where a lot of the government officials are probably

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Speaker 1: all of the government officials at this point are on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, it's a public discourse is taking

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Speaker 1: place there. When you when you when you are removed

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Speaker 1: from that, you're ostracized and you're removed from the discussions

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Speaker 1: that matter. So it is very costly, even beyond just traffic,

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Speaker 1: it's costly in terms of like we have, for example,

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk is a fan of ours and he engages

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Speaker 1: with our content regularly. Um, he's not on the alternative platforms,

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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter. And so if we're not on Twitter anymore,

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Speaker 1: you know we we we are no longer being engaged

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Speaker 1: with and in front of prominent people with large followings.

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Speaker 1: So the damage that it does just not just to

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Speaker 1: our our traffic itself, but just you know, our brand

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Speaker 1: and being relevant. Um, it's it's huge, big cost. So

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Speaker 1: how I first of all admire you for standing on

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Speaker 1: principle because I think you're right here and Twitter does

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Speaker 1: need to be held accountable for its arbitrary and capricious

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Speaker 1: rules as it applies them. Um. Yeah, how long are

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Speaker 1: you prepared to continue this battle? We talk with Alex

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Speaker 1: Barns and all the time Twitter kicked him off. You

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Speaker 1: aren't officially kicked off, certainly, but if you don't, if

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Speaker 1: you don't delete this tweet, it's a de facto kicking

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Speaker 1: off right of your of your brand. How long could

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Speaker 1: this go on? From your perspective, Well, that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we were you know, we feel pretty committed

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Speaker 1: to not deleting the tweet. So we're at a we're

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Speaker 1: kind of at this impass. We're just staring each other

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Speaker 1: down right now. Let's see what Let's see how Twitter response.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how the appeal goes. Of course, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're bringing a lot of media spotlight to this. I'll

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Speaker 1: be on Tucker Carlson later tonight talking about it. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know what, the thing that's important to us is

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Speaker 1: that we generate enough support from our readers. We have

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Speaker 1: lots of loyal readers, We have a large email list.

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00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: We're appealing to them to subscribe and support us because

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Speaker 1: this could be a long fight, This could draw out

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Speaker 1: for years. I don't know when we'll be you know,

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Speaker 1: there may come a time where the law changes or

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Speaker 1: where the Supreme Court ways in on this and Twitter

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Speaker 1: is compelled to allow us back on the platform. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but you know I'm not I'm not calling

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Speaker 1: for any kind of government regulatory scheme or anything. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying it could. It could go on for a

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Speaker 1: long time. So we do need support from our readers

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Speaker 1: to carry us through. Yes, Seth, we want to ask

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Speaker 1: about that exactly because look, I make no secret of this.

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Speaker 1: I think you guys too hilarious work on a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: You guys do great stuff over at the Babylon Bee

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Speaker 1: that is really helpful as conservative commentators. I feel like

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Speaker 1: they're so little comedy out there. So we find people

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00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: who do it well and do real comedy, real parity,

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00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: real satire. We want to support it. And you guys

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00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: at the Bee certainly, guys and gals certainly do that.

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00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: Where can folks go and how can people make sure

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00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: they see some of the brilliant stuff you're putting out there,

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00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: even if let's say Twitter holds firm well, I think

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Speaker 1: the best way. I mean, look, you can't none of

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00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: these social platforms really allow you to own your audience.

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00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: You don't have an actual relationship with them where you

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00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: take them with you wherever you go. I would say

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Speaker 1: the best thing to do is get on our email list.

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00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: If you're not able to be a paid subscriber, the

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00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: next best thing is to get on the email list,

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00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: and then we have direct communication with you outside of

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Speaker 1: the algorithms and you know, the big tech sensors who

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00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: are trying to limit what you can see and what

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Speaker 1: you can say. So I would encourage everyone today you

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Speaker 1: can join on our website or even on our Twitter

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00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: page which is still up. It's not been taken down.

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Speaker 1: We just can't tweet there. We have a link to

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Speaker 1: sign up for a newsletter right through at the top

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Speaker 1: of the page. Seth here at write request, because I'm

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Speaker 1: going to help you at Guys as best I can.

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Speaker 1: When you know that you and you guys have a

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Speaker 1: lot of great stories and headlines, When you know you

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Speaker 1: have one that I would love that I might not otherwise,

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Speaker 1: text it to me and I will share it with

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Speaker 1: my audience to help, you know, continue to spread the

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Speaker 1: word of your brand, because I know how incredibly frustrating

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Speaker 1: it is when that fire hose effect that you get

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Speaker 1: from your social media accounts they suddenly turn it off

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Speaker 1: because of something that you've said that they disagree with.

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00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: It happened all the time to us at OutKick, and

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00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: it happens to a lot of people out there who

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Speaker 1: will fight the good fight on a day to day basis.

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Speaker 1: I bet I appreciate that offer. I will take you

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Speaker 1: up on that. We do need more sports sports writers

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Speaker 1: who can do comedy from the perspective of looking at

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Speaker 1: and satirizing and doing parody of the sports world. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll take you up on that. I appreciate your support.

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Speaker 1: You know, we really need it. Seth Dylan of the

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Speaker 1: Babylon Be making great jokes and fighting the good fight

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Speaker 1: for free speech. Thanks so much, Seth. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: sand Buck Sexton Show, but we are gonna be back

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Speaker 1: with you obviously the rest of the week, and we

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Speaker 1: appreciate your hanging with us. If you missed any part

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Speaker 1: of the show, play and Buck podcast Billable wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts, and there's the Buck Sexton Show pre

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Speaker 1: show podcast. You can check it out in the morning.

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Speaker 1: And we have so oh wait wait before you get

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Speaker 1: the calls, mister kid rock Is, I will say I

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Speaker 1: like the music very much that mister like mister that's

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Speaker 1: probably the first time Kid Rocks ever been referred to

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Speaker 1: as mister kid Rock. Mister kid Rock is an exceptional

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Speaker 1: rocker and also just all around great America for what

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Speaker 1: I understand, and he is very clear. But the fact

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Speaker 1: that while we're sitting here talking about the Babylon Bee

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Speaker 1: having its Twitter account log and this is I've been

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Speaker 1: hit with fact checks from PolitiFact and all this, and

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00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: it's they're always wrong when they do this, by the way,

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Speaker 1: it's like they never actually are on the side of

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Speaker 1: never mind the angels, on the side of free speech, truth,

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Speaker 1: you name it. I mean, they're just always in the

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Speaker 1: wrong when they do this stuff. They pick these fights

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Speaker 1: big tech and it's because if the big tech people

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Speaker 1: making the decisions don't go along with this, they will

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Speaker 1: have insane twenty five to thirty five year olds who

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Speaker 1: are protesting outside their offices and like you're literally killing

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Speaker 1: me by like not doing what I want. They lose

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Speaker 1: their minds. They're a bunch of you know, they watched

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Speaker 1: him much MSNBC and Comedy Central and all the rest

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Speaker 1: of it. Here is kid Rock just let everybody know, well,

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Speaker 1: if sometimes you can't cancel people like him. Why haven't

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Speaker 1: you been canceled? Like people aren't allowed to say what

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Speaker 1: they think you are. I am uncancellable. Why's that? Because

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Speaker 1: I don't give and I'm not in bed with any

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Speaker 1: big corporate things. At the end of the day, there's

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Speaker 1: nobody I'm beholden to, No Brecker companies, no corporate interests,

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Speaker 1: no nothing, and you can't cancel me. I love it

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Speaker 1: when they try. I love hearing this, Clay, This is

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Speaker 1: what we need people, even irrespect of their specific politics.

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Speaker 1: Those look not everyone. People listening to this will write

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Speaker 1: in They'll say, oh, but you know, if I speak out,

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Speaker 1: I'll lose my job. I'm like, look, if you're the

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Speaker 1: junior accountant at x y Z Corporation, I don't want

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Speaker 1: you getting fired from your job and not able to

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Speaker 1: pay your bills, and you know, have your wife or

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Speaker 1: your husband all stressed out because you want to post

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Speaker 1: something political? Okay, there are you know you got to

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Speaker 1: you gotta have I always say, have a planned to

913
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Speaker 1: charge the machine gun nests. Don't just run up the hill.

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Speaker 1: If you're kid Rock, you're in this analogy effectively bulletproof.

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Speaker 1: There are people like that. They need to lead the

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Speaker 1: charge of I'm not going to play this game anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's what's always been so frustrating to me about cancel

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Speaker 1: culture in general is the people who already have enough resources.

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Speaker 1: And I put myself in this category. Now if I

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Speaker 1: first of all, I don't think that I could be

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Speaker 1: easily canceled, right, but I have the resources to be

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Speaker 1: able to say exactly what I think all day, every day.

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Speaker 1: And there are so many people out there in business, politics,

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Speaker 1: entertainment that also have the resources to say exactly what

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Speaker 1: they believe, and they're still afraid to do so. And

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Speaker 1: I've seen this before, Buck, But if you don't say

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Speaker 1: fu every now and then, what's the point of having

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Speaker 1: FU money? It's it is a conversation that I've had

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Speaker 1: with a lot of people who agree with much of

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Speaker 1: what you or I might say, but they're like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid of what might happen to me. And so

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Speaker 1: you've got fifty million dollars in the bank, why do

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Speaker 1: you care? Like your family's gonna be funny? You don't

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Speaker 1: even have to say anything crazy crazy, You just have

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Speaker 1: to say a man as a man. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: things that you could say that would get you in trouble.

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Speaker 1: No one's asking someone. You know, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: be some free speech radical who is out there on

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Speaker 1: the our most basic, the fundamental right you have as

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Speaker 1: a human being, never mind as an American, to say

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Speaker 1: what is observable, fact and true without reprisal against you

942
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Speaker 1: from a society around you is something that is under

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Speaker 1: assault right now. They are attacking fundamental, obvious truth and

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Speaker 1: telling people to bend the knee over it. That's what

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Speaker 1: you know, we're not even I wish we could sit

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Speaker 1: here and say, oh, why can't we all just say

947
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Speaker 1: whatever and say that you know, no, that's not say whatever?

948
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Speaker 1: Is now a man as a man? Well, it's crazy

949
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Speaker 1: as buck even saying women should not compete against men.

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Speaker 1: Most sports writers are afraid to say it because they're

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Speaker 1: afraid they might lose their jobs. I mean, that's the

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Speaker 1: world that we're in right now. And I understand that

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Speaker 1: if you make fifty thousand dollars a year and you've

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Speaker 1: got a couple of kids in school, and you're fifty

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Speaker 1: eight years old and you're trying to close out the

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Speaker 1: rest of your career, I understand why you could be

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Speaker 1: incredibly nervous about that. But I mean the people who

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Speaker 1: actually have real ability, Like why does Stephen A. Smith,

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Speaker 1: who is the most powerful person at ESPN, why won't

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Speaker 1: he go on his show and say, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with people choosing their gender if they want to,

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Speaker 1: but dude shouldn't be swimming against girls. Because of how

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Speaker 1: woke ESPN is. He's got enough money to live on

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Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. He's being a coward.

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Speaker 1: He won't say it. People who are used to being

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Speaker 1: celebrated by the elites, and they're used to making twenty

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year want that to continue, even though

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Speaker 1: they don't really need it. It doesn't make much difference

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Speaker 1: to them one way or the other at a certain point.

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Speaker 1: But it's all ego at that level. You know, you

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Speaker 1: want to be the guy or the gal who's invited

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Speaker 1: to the fancy cocktail parties. Were the people who are

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Speaker 1: important and powerful and rich, I'll get to sit around

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Speaker 1: and determined that we're not allowed to separate women from

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Speaker 1: men in sports anymore. It's crazy. You want to take

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Speaker 1: some calls, Let's do it. Edward in what Toma, Wisconsin?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Edward? Hey, guys, I just have to say

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Speaker 1: real quick, you guys are doing a great job. Rus

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Speaker 1: should be proud. Thank you so much. We appreciate that. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: m clay, you're about a thousand times as intelligent as

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Speaker 1: I am, and I just think way, way, way over

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Speaker 1: your skis on this Hunter Biden indictment thing. Um, I

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Speaker 1: have a theory. Why the New York Times is you know?

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Speaker 1: What's your theory? Oh? I think that they know Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden can't make another three years. I think they're plugging

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Speaker 1: their noses, and I think they're getting ready to trying

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Speaker 1: to push him out and Shelvedale in there. It's an

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Speaker 1: interesting theory. Buck, here's my theory. You can grab this

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Speaker 1: audio and we can play it. I'll sound like an idiot.

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Speaker 1: I think Hunter is going to be charged. I think

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Speaker 1: that when Hunter gets charged, they will try and stretch

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Speaker 1: out the cases and Joe Biden and not gonna run again.

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Speaker 1: He'll announce early in twenty twenty three, and at some

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Speaker 1: point he will pardon his son for all the misgivings

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Speaker 1: and misdoings and ride off into the sunset. I think

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be eating a rat. You prefecture steak at

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Speaker 1: sixteen or thirty two dollars announce I think it is

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Speaker 1: and looking at you and saying origato, mister Travis for

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Speaker 1: the very expensive Kobe Beef. I might invite Miranda Divine

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Speaker 1: because she agrees with me. I might go ahead and

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Speaker 1: bring her out for a song. Oh do wait, I'll

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Speaker 1: take We'll take her out the stakes too. But we're

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Speaker 1: not done on this one, folks, We're not done on

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Speaker 1: any of this. We got so much more for you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for rolling with us. Play and buck over and

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Speaker 1: out play Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines

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Speaker 1: of truth.