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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor with you.
Speaker 2: Paul Selling, as I mentioned, considered to be one of
Speaker 2: the world's most foremost spiritual channelers working today. In his
Speaker 2: thirteen breakthrough works of channel literature, including I Am the
Speaker 2: Word and Resurrection and his New One, A World Made New,
Speaker 2: he awakens to its own divine nature. Born in New
Speaker 2: York City, Paul received his master's degree from Yale. A
Speaker 2: spiritual experience in nineteen eighty seven left him clairvoyant. He'll
Speaker 2: talk about that. Paul served on the faculty of NYU
Speaker 2: for twenty five years, directed the graduate writing program at
Speaker 2: Goddard College, and now offers channeled workshops internationally. Lives in Hawaii,
Speaker 2: where he maintains a private practice as an intuitive and
Speaker 2: conducts frequent live stream seminars. Paul Selling back on Coast
Speaker 2: to Coast Paul, always a pleasure having you on the program.
Speaker 3: I'm glad to be here. Thank you, George. Have you
Speaker 3: been I've been really well. I'm I'm glad. I'm glad
Speaker 3: to be here. I'm glad to be.
Speaker 2: Working or jet some hurricane activity out that way. Everything okay,
Speaker 2: everything's fine, Everything's fine.
Speaker 3: I'm in a jungle, so when we get it, it's
Speaker 3: a little bit different than elsewhere, but it's quite beautiful
Speaker 3: even when it's storming.
Speaker 2: What happened to you in nineteen eighty seven that left
Speaker 2: you in this amazing situation?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: I had come to a potential awareness that maybe there
Speaker 3: was something like God in the universe. I had been
Speaker 3: raised an atheist, but I'd begun to have some experiences
Speaker 3: that were leading me to think otherwise. And I heard
Speaker 3: there was this thing happening in eighty seven called the
Speaker 3: Harmonic convergence and that people were going to be waking up.
Speaker 3: And I thought, well, if there is a god and
Speaker 3: you asked to be woken up, why would it want
Speaker 3: to say no. It didn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 3: So I went up to the roof of the building
Speaker 3: that I was living in New York at that time,
Speaker 3: and I asked to be woken up. And I tried
Speaker 3: to teach myself how to meditate, which I'd never done before,
Speaker 3: and I ended up having an experience of energy moving
Speaker 3: through my body and out through the top of my
Speaker 3: head that people later said sounded like a spontaneous Kundalini
Speaker 3: awakening for oh. I know, I was hyperventilating, but it
Speaker 3: was quite something for me, and it was experiential and
Speaker 3: I couldn't deny it. And then I started seeing little
Speaker 3: lights around people after that, which was really the beginning
Speaker 3: of an awakening to psychic abilities that I really hadn't
Speaker 3: known that I had.
Speaker 2: You have now written thirteen books that have been channeled
Speaker 2: towards you by the other side. Who's on the other
Speaker 2: side doing this? Was it just one entity or a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of them?
Speaker 3: It's a collective. They mostly use we a say we
Speaker 3: have come, we are here to teach. I've had an
Speaker 3: experience of one primary guy that I've seen a few times.
Speaker 3: He shows up in a very specific way, and I'm
Speaker 3: quite comfortable with him, and at times he steps into
Speaker 3: me when he works in my eyes, which are dark hazel,
Speaker 3: go a very very pale blue which people can see
Speaker 3: when he works through me. But it's a collective of
Speaker 3: their teachers. They've been named that they've come with his
Speaker 3: melkitha deek when they use a name, but they also
Speaker 3: say things like we are who you become when you
Speaker 3: know who you are, meaning all of us when we
Speaker 3: awaken to our are true to my nature, you know,
Speaker 3: have this capacity. So their teachers and they're here to teach,
Speaker 3: and that's what they've been doing through all these books.
Speaker 2: Have you read any books on just you or have
Speaker 2: they all been channels?
Speaker 3: Well, they've all been channeled so far. Actually just I
Speaker 3: think The Woman's Coming Out is the twelfth coming out today,
Speaker 3: and the thirteenth is done last week. They finished dictation
Speaker 3: and I'm writing a memoir, so you're the first person
Speaker 3: to ask about that, But yeah, I'm trying to tell
Speaker 3: my story. I find it much easier to take dictation
Speaker 3: from the guides because there's no editing and there's no rewriting.
Speaker 3: Everything that shows up in the book is literally as
Speaker 3: it's and writing is harder for me now, at least
Speaker 3: I think in terms of having to do it well.
Speaker 3: And when I'm channeling, I'm really just a radio playing
Speaker 3: a broadcast, and the broadcast is not my business. My
Speaker 3: business is to try to keep up with the dictation
Speaker 3: as quickly as it comes.
Speaker 2: I know when you channel, which you will do next
Speaker 2: hour with phone calls. It is truly remarkable how they
Speaker 2: work through you did they find you, or did you
Speaker 2: find them?
Speaker 3: You know, I may never know. I had an experience
Speaker 3: when I was five of being in my hovering over
Speaker 3: my bed, which I now all these years later, believed
Speaker 3: to be the guide or the primary guide that I
Speaker 3: work with. And it was the only out of body
Speaker 3: experience I've ever had in my life, because I was
Speaker 3: in bed looking up at this being, and then I
Speaker 3: was on the ceiling looking down at myself having a
Speaker 3: conversation with it. So I understand that this is a
Speaker 3: relationship that I've had with them that probably predates this lifetime.
Speaker 3: But I asked in some ways, you know, when I
Speaker 3: started waking up to spirit, it floored me because I'd
Speaker 3: lived in a world where such things were impossible, and
Speaker 3: suddenly I was beginning to get evidence that there was
Speaker 3: far more to know than what I had been taught.
Speaker 3: And so I asked to be developed. And I think
Speaker 3: when we ask, we get the answer. And I either
Speaker 3: was already waiting in the wings and they knew it
Speaker 3: was going to happen, which is what it sounds like
Speaker 3: when they explain it to me, or I was just
Speaker 3: willing enough to say, I don't know what this means,
Speaker 3: but I'm willing to go on the journey, and I
Speaker 3: have for quite a long time now.
Speaker 2: And what a journey it has been for you, Paul.
Speaker 3: It really has been. When I think, when I reflect
Speaker 3: on it, my life is completely different than I would
Speaker 3: have fought it could be. And I'm grateful for this work,
Speaker 3: and I also understand that I may never fully understand it,
Speaker 3: and i know that I have capacity for this, and
Speaker 3: I've developed a skill set through showing up for this
Speaker 3: again and again and again. But I've gotten past the
Speaker 3: idea of thinking of it as special and as something
Speaker 3: that is just present and that we all have capacity
Speaker 3: for if we're open to aligning at a higher level
Speaker 3: or to higher wisdom than we walk around with every day.
Speaker 2: Paul, what seems to be the overall theme or message
Speaker 2: that these guides are trying to convey through your writings.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a few of them, but the primary one,
Speaker 3: I think is that we're not who we think we are,
Speaker 3: that who we are is infinitely greater, and that we've
Speaker 3: been operating through They call it a veil of separation,
Speaker 3: or a belief that we're separate from source and consequently
Speaker 3: from one another, and in fact that's a lie. So
Speaker 3: in reclaiming our own true nature or whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it, the God within the inner light, it
Speaker 3: doesn't really matter what you call it. In that reclamation,
Speaker 3: you begin to reclaim a relationship with Source and with
Speaker 3: everything else in a very different way. They say we're
Speaker 3: living in an octave of vibration as low tones and
Speaker 3: high tones. We can think of low tones as evil
Speaker 3: or hatred or war, and high tones is love. But
Speaker 3: they say there are other octaves beyond this octave, and
Speaker 3: that any piece of music can be transposed to be
Speaker 3: sung or played in a higher way. And they're teaching
Speaker 3: transposition how we can be sung or played in a
Speaker 3: higher reality.
Speaker 2: I love the title of this book, a World Made New,
Speaker 2: tell us about that.
Speaker 3: They promised in the first book, which was called I'm
Speaker 3: the Word, which was dictated in two thousand and nine,
Speaker 3: before I even knew that this could happen, that they
Speaker 3: were going to be teaching eventually about how reality is
Speaker 3: renown and re sein through consciousness. And the World Made
Speaker 3: New is a teaching of what happens when we individually
Speaker 3: and collectively at a higher level, which means we lift
Speaker 3: in vibration to a higher level of resonance where we're
Speaker 3: not operating through fear or the idea of fear, which
Speaker 3: they say colors everything that we do, whether or not
Speaker 3: we're aware of it, is no longer present. And at
Speaker 3: that level of alignment, the idea of who we are
Speaker 3: as of source claims source in all that it sees.
Speaker 3: And they say, basically, when you witness the divine in
Speaker 3: what is before you, at this level, what you see
Speaker 3: before you is lifted to its true nature or the
Speaker 3: God that's within all things. They say, there's one note
Speaker 3: sung in the whole universe, and it's out pictured as
Speaker 3: all things. We've just denied it. So a world made
Speaker 3: new is the recreation of the manifest world at a
Speaker 3: higher level of tone and vibration beyond fear.
Speaker 2: How does it echo the Book of Revelation? Is there
Speaker 2: any similarities?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: It's interesting because there are. And I wasn't with this stuff.
Speaker 3: So they talk, the guides talk about the upper Room,
Speaker 3: which I think is in a different gospel. I didn't
Speaker 3: know it was in the gospels until somebody told me.
Speaker 3: But the upper room is where they teach from. They say,
Speaker 3: it's the next level of consciousness, or the octave above
Speaker 3: the common field, which is reality that we know. But
Speaker 3: one of the claims, and a number of the claims
Speaker 3: and the guides work with what they call claims of
Speaker 3: truth or vibrational attunements, which are spoken words or incantations
Speaker 3: or affirmations that work energetically with us. One of them
Speaker 3: is behold, I make all things new, which they say
Speaker 3: is claimed by the divine cell or the God within
Speaker 3: at that level of vibration, the upper room, and that
Speaker 3: is what actually calls a new world into being. So
Speaker 3: you can call it the God within, the indwelling Christ.
Speaker 3: There's a name for it in every religion I expect,
Speaker 3: But there are a lot of echoes. And I don't
Speaker 3: hear teachings of destruction. I hear teachings of enormous upheaval
Speaker 3: and great awakening coming, and they're positive, but they're not
Speaker 3: necessarily comfortable. You know, everything I understand will be changing
Speaker 3: in the coming generations.
Speaker 2: Is that changing for the good?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is changing for the good. But I don't
Speaker 3: know that we get out of this with a magic
Speaker 3: Wand I think we have to look at what we've created.
Speaker 3: They've said humanity at a time of reckoning, and a
Speaker 3: reckoning is a facing of oneself in all of one's creations.
Speaker 3: This is done individually. We have to look at our
Speaker 3: ownnesses and collectively, and we have to see how our
Speaker 3: consciousness contributes to the very things we say we don't want,
Speaker 3: how we align to war and bigotry and hatred and
Speaker 3: all of these things. So I think what's begun to
Speaker 3: happen in the last number of years is we're getting
Speaker 3: to see these things whether are right before us. We
Speaker 3: can't ignore them, and we're accountable to what we see.
Speaker 3: The Guide say, if you can see it, if you
Speaker 3: can think about it, that means you're in alignment or
Speaker 3: co resonance with it. At a level of vibrational tone,
Speaker 3: you lift to the higher tone, which is the upper room,
Speaker 3: and then you can lift what's been held in the
Speaker 3: lower to you, which they say is how a world
Speaker 3: is made new. So the upheaval, I think is challenging.
Speaker 3: I think it's ongoing. I hear it's a few generations
Speaker 3: before we sort of settle into something much better or
Speaker 3: much different than we know. But we're in a process
Speaker 3: right now of excavation. If you think of excavating your
Speaker 3: backyard and digging up all the junk that was buried
Speaker 3: five years ago and five thousand years ago. That's what
Speaker 3: we're doing, and we're having to look at it.
Speaker 2: We're talking to one of our favorite guests, Paul Sellig.
Speaker 2: His latest book is called The World Made New. His
Speaker 2: website is linked up at coastcosdam dot com. You've also
Speaker 2: got a presence on Facebook and Twitter X don't you Paul?
Speaker 3: Not Twitter right now? Facebook and Instagram excellent, excellent.
Speaker 2: I know you get a lot of different kinds of
Speaker 2: people asking you for assistance and help. What have been
Speaker 2: some of the most dramatic things the spirit channelers have asked.
Speaker 1: Of you.
Speaker 3: Personally? What they've asked of me? I think it's I
Speaker 3: think it's there's an agreement here that I show up
Speaker 3: for this work even when I'm doubting it or confused
Speaker 3: by it, or it's the last thing that I want
Speaker 3: to do, and they're going to show up anyway. So
Speaker 3: I've channeled. I think I channeled the day my mother passed.
Speaker 3: You know, I had people that were expecting me, and
Speaker 3: I was online and I was doing it. So I
Speaker 3: show up regardless, and then they show up and they
Speaker 3: deliver the teaching. So I've had to learn how to
Speaker 3: step aside and let my ego be out the door,
Speaker 3: because it's not about that. I'm challenged by this every
Speaker 3: time I do it. It's like jumping out off of
Speaker 3: a diving board every time and trusting that there's water
Speaker 3: in the pool. And I've been doing this for a
Speaker 3: long time now, but it's still the unknown because I
Speaker 3: don't know what's going to come out of my mind out
Speaker 3: until it does.
Speaker 2: So there have been times that you didn't want a channel,
Speaker 2: you were doing something human, yeah, and they came at you.
Speaker 3: Well, they don't, you know, I'm if I'm in the
Speaker 3: grocery store. I'm in the grocery store. They don't. They
Speaker 3: rarely interrupt me. If I say if I'm standing at
Speaker 3: the edge of the highway and I say that's a
Speaker 3: good time, you know, to cross into oncoming traffic, they
Speaker 3: might say not wise, which means if I want to
Speaker 3: get killed, I can do it, but it's not the
Speaker 3: best decision I can make. Mostly they come in response
Speaker 3: to questions. But if there's an appointment to channel, whether
Speaker 3: it's a group or a class or or client, I'm
Speaker 3: present for that and they show up anyway. So I've
Speaker 3: had some very very hard days where I thought it
Speaker 3: would be impossible and that I was in no shape
Speaker 3: to channel, and they come through and deliver Christine lectures.
Speaker 3: There's a whole book that was done when I thought
Speaker 3: I was sort of falling apart, and the book is
Speaker 3: kind of amazing, And they were working with what I
Speaker 3: was going through to prompt to teach, so it was
Speaker 3: all essential in part of that package. So I've learned
Speaker 3: to trust them in this way, But I think my
Speaker 3: comfort isn't necessarily their primary concern.
Speaker 2: Do they sometimes wake you out of a deep sleep.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think I've been communicated with in my sleep.
Speaker 3: I've channeled. I've woken up channeling in my sleep, which
Speaker 3: is really curious when you wake up speaking and you
Speaker 3: don't know what you're speaking. When I was first opening
Speaker 3: up in my early thirties, I would wake up doing
Speaker 3: what I now know are moudras or hand gestures that
Speaker 3: correlate to energetic I guess agreements or systems, and I
Speaker 3: had no idea what was going on until somebody explained
Speaker 3: it to me. But I'm not harmed by this. My
Speaker 3: nervous system I believe is used. It's kind of overridden
Speaker 3: for me to do this and it's taxing. But nobody
Speaker 3: told me when I first started that people only do
Speaker 3: this for half an hour at a time. And I
Speaker 3: know when i'm channeling a book, a whole book can
Speaker 3: be done in twenty two days of sittings. It's that
Speaker 3: that just comes out fully formed and then it's done.
Speaker 3: So I'm often working for hours.
Speaker 2: When you channel, and people will have an opportunity to
Speaker 2: hear this. Next hour, we hear the voice of the
Speaker 2: channel are going through you, don't.
Speaker 3: We Well, it's different. I work two ways. When I'm
Speaker 3: working as a channel, I'm taking dictation, and I think
Speaker 3: channeling or true channeling, is straight dictation. So if you
Speaker 3: think of me as a stenographer and a spoken scenographer,
Speaker 3: the first transmission comes on a whisper, and I often
Speaker 3: repeat it in a louder voice. And this is something
Speaker 3: that I got into when I first started. It's stuck.
Speaker 3: When I work psychically, I'm actually listening to the person
Speaker 3: i'm reading for. So if Jane has a question, Jane
Speaker 3: becomes the radio station that I'm tuning into, and if
Speaker 3: the guides want to comment on Jane's question, they will.
Speaker 3: The guides I find don't necessarily care if we get
Speaker 3: the promotion at work or if our kid gets into
Speaker 3: the right school. But they do care about how we live,
Speaker 3: how we grow, and how we treat ourselves and one another.
Speaker 3: So I worked psychically in channel and they complement each
Speaker 3: other in many many ways.
Speaker 2: Have they ever given you future information of events?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have, and they're still doing it. The book
Speaker 3: that they just finished dictating, they're talking about that. I
Speaker 3: didn't know that I would get this early on. The
Speaker 3: first time it really happened was nine to eleven and
Speaker 3: I was living in New York at the time, and
Speaker 3: the person that I was with was opening up a
Speaker 3: business in Lower Manhattan and said, ask the guides, will
Speaker 3: I be able to make the rent in October? And
Speaker 3: the answer was no. And the question why was answered
Speaker 3: with was because there's going to be a terrorist attack
Speaker 3: in Lower Manhattan. And I believe they gave the day
Speaker 3: too because there was an eleven in it. I don't
Speaker 3: look for that stuff. I got that through the back door,
Speaker 3: and I don't go seeking it. When they talk about changes,
Speaker 3: they're generally talking about changes culturally. The Book of Truth,
Speaker 3: which was one of their books, predated all of this
Speaker 3: stuff coming to the surface. That have been buried and hidden,
Speaker 3: and they predicted that happening, that we're going to go
Speaker 3: through a period of excavation and exhumation of untruth and
Speaker 3: having to sort through stuff, and we did, and we're
Speaker 3: still doing it. And they're talking now about it taking
Speaker 3: a number of generations for us to come into our
Speaker 3: own in a new way. But they say that the
Speaker 3: people that are being born now are being born at
Speaker 3: a different level of awareness where they're not going to
Speaker 3: be an agreement to things that are lies or corrupt systems.
Speaker 3: And when people stop going into agreement, which is they say,
Speaker 3: energetic accord, the old begins to fall away. So we're
Speaker 3: in a process of that, and I think we're going
Speaker 3: to continue to be in a process of that for
Speaker 3: a number of years.
Speaker 2: Truly. Remarkable, truly is what it seems to be their
Speaker 2: biggest message for us.
Speaker 3: Paul, I should ask them, well I do. They're saying,
Speaker 3: know who you are? No, and no means realize. So
Speaker 3: you know, I can say, I'm a man of this age.
Speaker 3: I live, you know, in the state of Hawaii. I
Speaker 3: do this kind of work and these are ways of
Speaker 3: knowing myself. But who I am and who you are
Speaker 3: and who everybody is is vastly more than that. They say,
Speaker 3: we're each in aspect of the Creator, and that the
Speaker 3: Creator within us, which by whatever name you want to
Speaker 3: call it, is seeking to realize itself through us for
Speaker 3: the betterment of all. You don't lose yourself in this,
Speaker 3: You actually gain an awareness of universal knowing, which is
Speaker 3: far greater.
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