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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight. From Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor with you.

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Speaker 2: Paul Selling, as I mentioned, considered to be one of

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Speaker 2: the world's most foremost spiritual channelers working today. In his

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Speaker 2: thirteen breakthrough works of channel literature, including I Am the

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Speaker 2: Word and Resurrection and his New One, A World Made New,

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Speaker 2: he awakens to its own divine nature. Born in New

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Speaker 2: York City, Paul received his master's degree from Yale. A

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Speaker 2: spiritual experience in nineteen eighty seven left him clairvoyant. He'll

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Speaker 2: talk about that. Paul served on the faculty of NYU

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Speaker 2: for twenty five years, directed the graduate writing program at

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Speaker 2: Goddard College, and now offers channeled workshops internationally. Lives in Hawaii,

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Speaker 2: where he maintains a private practice as an intuitive and

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Speaker 2: conducts frequent live stream seminars. Paul Selling back on Coast

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Speaker 2: to Coast Paul, always a pleasure having you on the program.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad to be here. Thank you, George. Have you

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Speaker 3: been I've been really well. I'm I'm glad. I'm glad

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Speaker 3: to be here. I'm glad to be.

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Speaker 2: Working or jet some hurricane activity out that way. Everything okay,

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Speaker 2: everything's fine, Everything's fine.

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Speaker 3: I'm in a jungle, so when we get it, it's

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Speaker 3: a little bit different than elsewhere, but it's quite beautiful

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Speaker 3: even when it's storming.

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Speaker 2: What happened to you in nineteen eighty seven that left

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Speaker 2: you in this amazing situation?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: I had come to a potential awareness that maybe there

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Speaker 3: was something like God in the universe. I had been

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Speaker 3: raised an atheist, but I'd begun to have some experiences

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Speaker 3: that were leading me to think otherwise. And I heard

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Speaker 3: there was this thing happening in eighty seven called the

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Speaker 3: Harmonic convergence and that people were going to be waking up.

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Speaker 3: And I thought, well, if there is a god and

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Speaker 3: you asked to be woken up, why would it want

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Speaker 3: to say no. It didn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 3: So I went up to the roof of the building

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Speaker 3: that I was living in New York at that time,

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Speaker 3: and I asked to be woken up. And I tried

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Speaker 3: to teach myself how to meditate, which I'd never done before,

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Speaker 3: and I ended up having an experience of energy moving

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Speaker 3: through my body and out through the top of my

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Speaker 3: head that people later said sounded like a spontaneous Kundalini

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Speaker 3: awakening for oh. I know, I was hyperventilating, but it

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Speaker 3: was quite something for me, and it was experiential and

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Speaker 3: I couldn't deny it. And then I started seeing little

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Speaker 3: lights around people after that, which was really the beginning

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Speaker 3: of an awakening to psychic abilities that I really hadn't

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Speaker 3: known that I had.

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Speaker 2: You have now written thirteen books that have been channeled

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Speaker 2: towards you by the other side. Who's on the other

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Speaker 2: side doing this? Was it just one entity or a

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Speaker 2: whole bunch of them?

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Speaker 3: It's a collective. They mostly use we a say we

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Speaker 3: have come, we are here to teach. I've had an

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Speaker 3: experience of one primary guy that I've seen a few times.

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Speaker 3: He shows up in a very specific way, and I'm

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Speaker 3: quite comfortable with him, and at times he steps into

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Speaker 3: me when he works in my eyes, which are dark hazel,

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Speaker 3: go a very very pale blue which people can see

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Speaker 3: when he works through me. But it's a collective of

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Speaker 3: their teachers. They've been named that they've come with his

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Speaker 3: melkitha deek when they use a name, but they also

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Speaker 3: say things like we are who you become when you

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Speaker 3: know who you are, meaning all of us when we

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Speaker 3: awaken to our are true to my nature, you know,

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Speaker 3: have this capacity. So their teachers and they're here to teach,

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Speaker 3: and that's what they've been doing through all these books.

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Speaker 2: Have you read any books on just you or have

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Speaker 2: they all been channels?

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Speaker 3: Well, they've all been channeled so far. Actually just I

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Speaker 3: think The Woman's Coming Out is the twelfth coming out today,

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Speaker 3: and the thirteenth is done last week. They finished dictation

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Speaker 3: and I'm writing a memoir, so you're the first person

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Speaker 3: to ask about that, But yeah, I'm trying to tell

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Speaker 3: my story. I find it much easier to take dictation

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Speaker 3: from the guides because there's no editing and there's no rewriting.

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Speaker 3: Everything that shows up in the book is literally as

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Speaker 3: it's and writing is harder for me now, at least

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Speaker 3: I think in terms of having to do it well.

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Speaker 3: And when I'm channeling, I'm really just a radio playing

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Speaker 3: a broadcast, and the broadcast is not my business. My

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Speaker 3: as quickly as it comes.

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Speaker 2: I know when you channel, which you will do next

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Speaker 2: hour with phone calls. It is truly remarkable how they

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Speaker 2: work through you did they find you, or did you

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Speaker 3: You know, I may never know. I had an experience

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Speaker 3: when I was five of being in my hovering over

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Speaker 3: to be the guide or the primary guide that I

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Speaker 3: work with. And it was the only out of body

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Speaker 3: experience I've ever had in my life, because I was

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Speaker 3: in bed looking up at this being, and then I

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Speaker 3: relationship that I've had with them that probably predates this lifetime.

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Speaker 3: But I asked in some ways, you know, when I

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Speaker 3: started waking up to spirit, it floored me because I'd

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Speaker 3: lived in a world where such things were impossible, and

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Speaker 3: suddenly I was beginning to get evidence that there was

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Speaker 3: far more to know than what I had been taught.

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Speaker 3: And so I asked to be developed. And I think

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Speaker 3: when we ask, we get the answer. And I either

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Speaker 3: was already waiting in the wings and they knew it

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Speaker 3: was going to happen, which is what it sounds like

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Speaker 3: when they explain it to me, or I was just

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Speaker 3: willing enough to say, I don't know what this means,

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Speaker 3: but I'm willing to go on the journey, and I

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Speaker 3: have for quite a long time now.

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Speaker 2: And what a journey it has been for you, Paul.

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Speaker 3: It really has been. When I think, when I reflect

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Speaker 3: on it, my life is completely different than I would

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Speaker 3: have fought it could be. And I'm grateful for this work,

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Speaker 3: and I also understand that I may never fully understand it,

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Speaker 3: and i know that I have capacity for this, and

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Speaker 3: I've developed a skill set through showing up for this

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Speaker 3: again and again and again. But I've gotten past the

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Speaker 3: idea of thinking of it as special and as something

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Speaker 3: that is just present and that we all have capacity

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Speaker 3: for if we're open to aligning at a higher level

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Speaker 3: or to higher wisdom than we walk around with every day.

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Speaker 2: Paul, what seems to be the overall theme or message

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a few of them, but the primary one,

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Speaker 3: I think is that we're not who we think we are,

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Speaker 3: that who we are is infinitely greater, and that we've

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Speaker 3: in reclaiming our own true nature or whatever you want

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Speaker 3: doesn't really matter what you call it. In that reclamation,

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Speaker 3: everything else in a very different way. They say we're

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Speaker 3: living in an octave of vibration as low tones and

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Speaker 3: or hatred or war, and high tones is love. But

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Speaker 3: they say there are other octaves beyond this octave, and

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Speaker 3: that any piece of music can be transposed to be

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Speaker 3: sung or played in a higher way. And they're teaching

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Speaker 2: I love the title of this book, a World Made New,

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Speaker 2: tell us about that.

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Speaker 3: They promised in the first book, which was called I'm

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Speaker 3: the Word, which was dictated in two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 3: were going to be teaching eventually about how reality is

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Speaker 3: renown and re sein through consciousness. And the World Made

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Speaker 3: New is a teaching of what happens when we individually

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Speaker 3: not operating through fear or the idea of fear, which

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Speaker 3: they say colors everything that we do, whether or not

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Speaker 3: we're aware of it, is no longer present. And at

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Speaker 3: that level of alignment, the idea of who we are

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Speaker 3: And they say, basically, when you witness the divine in

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Speaker 3: God that's within all things. They say, there's one note

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Speaker 3: all things. We've just denied it. So a world made

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Speaker 3: new is the recreation of the manifest world at a

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Speaker 2: How does it echo the Book of Revelation? Is there

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Speaker 2: any similarities?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because there are. And I wasn't with this stuff.

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Speaker 3: So they talk, the guides talk about the upper Room,

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Speaker 3: But the upper room is where they teach from. They say,

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Speaker 3: one of the claims, and a number of the claims

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Speaker 3: is behold, I make all things new, which they say

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Speaker 3: you can call it the God within, the indwelling Christ.

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Speaker 3: There's a name for it in every religion I expect,

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Speaker 3: But there are a lot of echoes. And I don't

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Speaker 3: hear teachings of destruction. I hear teachings of enormous upheaval

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Speaker 3: and great awakening coming, and they're positive, but they're not

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Speaker 3: necessarily comfortable. You know, everything I understand will be changing

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Speaker 2: Is that changing for the good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is changing for the good. But I don't

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Speaker 3: Wand I think we have to look at what we've created.

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Speaker 3: They've said humanity at a time of reckoning, and a

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Speaker 3: reckoning is a facing of oneself in all of one's creations.

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Speaker 3: how we align to war and bigotry and hatred and

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Speaker 3: can't ignore them, and we're accountable to what we see.

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Speaker 3: The Guide say, if you can see it, if you

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Speaker 3: can think about it, that means you're in alignment or

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Speaker 3: you lift to the higher tone, which is the upper room,

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Speaker 3: and then you can lift what's been held in the

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Speaker 3: is made new. So the upheaval, I think is challenging.

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Speaker 3: I think it's ongoing. I hear it's a few generations

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Speaker 3: right now of excavation. If you think of excavating your

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Speaker 3: five years ago and five thousand years ago. That's what

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Speaker 2: We're talking to one of our favorite guests, Paul Sellig.

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Speaker 2: His latest book is called The World Made New. His

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Speaker 2: website is linked up at coastcosdam dot com. You've also

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Speaker 2: got a presence on Facebook and Twitter X don't you Paul?

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Speaker 3: Not Twitter right now? Facebook and Instagram excellent, excellent.

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Speaker 2: I know you get a lot of different kinds of

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Speaker 3: Personally? What they've asked of me? I think it's I

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Speaker 3: think it's there's an agreement here that I show up

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Speaker 3: because it's not about that. I'm challenged by this every

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Speaker 2: So there have been times that you didn't want a channel,

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Speaker 3: Well, they don't, you know, I'm if I'm in the

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Speaker 3: I've channeled. I've woken up channeling in my sleep, which

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Speaker 2: When you channel, and people will have an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: We Well, it's different. I work two ways. When I'm

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Speaker 3: The guides I find don't necessarily care if we get

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Speaker 2: Have they ever given you future information of events?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they have, and they're still doing it. The book

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Speaker 3: And when people stop going into agreement, which is they say,

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Speaker 2: Truly. Remarkable, truly is what it seems to be their

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Speaker 3: Paul, I should ask them, well I do. They're saying,

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Speaker 3: do this kind of work and these are ways of

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Speaker 3: and who everybody is is vastly more than that. They say,

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Speaker 3: You actually gain an awareness of universal knowing, which is

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