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Speaker 1: Brady's current head coach Super Bowl winner, is going to

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Speaker 1: be joining us here in about five minutes. You know,

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Speaker 1: all sports leagues copy each other to some degree. They

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Speaker 1: steal little ideas. The NFL stole some of the Instagram

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Speaker 1: and social media momentum. The NBA had they lightened up

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Speaker 1: the post touchdowns librations for players, Let players do dances

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Speaker 1: and they've been rewarded by it. They get a lot

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Speaker 1: more free pub a lot more love on social media

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Speaker 1: for younger consumers. The NBA, which is consumed with being cool,

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Speaker 1: could do themselves a favor and borrow something from the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and that would be a backbone. There's only four hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty roughly current NBA players, but you have three stars.

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons with the Sixers, Kyrie Irving with the Nets,

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Speaker 1: and James Harden with Houston. Last year could have gone

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Speaker 1: total diva and held their team's hostage. The NFL has

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Speaker 1: over four times as many current players, and there is

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Speaker 1: not a single player going all diva. Why because the

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Speaker 1: NFL doesn't tolerate it. The NFL doesn't hoddle the football

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Speaker 1: culture in America. You can be in an NFL locker room,

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Speaker 1: be unvaxed like Cole Beasley or vaxed like Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: You can be a conservative like Cole Beasley or a

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Speaker 1: liberal like many NFL players. In the NBA, you can't

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Speaker 1: remain a broadcaster for an NBA team if you take

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Speaker 1: a more conservative worldview. I have lots of friends that

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Speaker 1: work in the NFL and lots of friends that work

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Speaker 1: in the NBA, and my NFL friends are overwhelmingly happier people.

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Speaker 1: I know two NBA beat writers who quit this past year,

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Speaker 1: really talented, one covering the Warriors, one covering the Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: City Thunder. You have to align in the NBA with

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Speaker 1: players beliefs. Coaches do, Broadcasters do executives do. In fact,

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Speaker 1: they're sort of an inside joke. NBA head coach is

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Speaker 1: the world's word great job. So the NBA and the

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Speaker 1: basketball culture in general in America is about coddling. Ben

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Speaker 1: Simmons has been coddled at AU, coddled at LSU, coddled

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Speaker 1: his first several years in Philadelphia, So shocker, he's a

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Speaker 1: spoiled brap. This is where the NBA really struggles. I'm

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Speaker 1: all for players having power. We know that nobody goes

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Speaker 1: the executives. That doesn't mean I relinquish total power to

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Speaker 1: the labor force, to kids. What you're seeing in the

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Speaker 1: NBA is a result of how basketball's culture is shaped

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Speaker 1: and how basketball stars are coddled. Three stars last year

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Speaker 1: have held their team's hostage, Like what happens to James Harden,

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Speaker 1: what happens to Kyrie Irving, what happens to Ben Simmons.

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Speaker 1: They have absolutely no self awareness. They don't understand the

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Speaker 1: architecture of a business and architecture of the entire league.

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Speaker 1: So when I see the Simmons situation with Philadelphia, when

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Speaker 1: I see the Kyrie situation with Brooklyn or James Harden

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Speaker 1: last year, this is what you get for coddling your athletes.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they shouldn't be paid. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: can't let the employees run the business. Next guest needs

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Speaker 1: an all introduction. He is the Super Bowl winning coach

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Speaker 1: to the Buccaneers. Bruce arians two time Code of the Year,

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Speaker 1: he looks so damn comfortable today. Look at you. Look

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. You are just perpetually happy, aren't you. That's

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Speaker 1: so why not. You know, it's funny, Bruce. You were

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Speaker 1: all worried about, Okay, here comes Tommy. Tommy's culture, Tommy's intensity.

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Speaker 1: because Tom does is so detail oriented. Yeah, it's fun

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Speaker 1: for me because you know, I'll be telling them receiver,

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Speaker 1: And they do it. So I'll tell him sometimes to

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Speaker 1: here in the last twelve Take me to your life

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Speaker 1: Hey we're gonna do Cover two this week, or we're

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Speaker 1: was Tony an influence for you on that? No? You know,

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Speaker 1: And whether it was Indie, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, you know Cleveland.

423
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: I think he had three or four starts in Cleveland.

424
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: They were all four hundred yards. One was in the

425
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: playoffs against the Steelers. And but he's he. I might

426
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: have had something to do with him, you know. The

427
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: rest of them, God and their parents. They did all that,

428
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: you know, wouldn't We have seventeen games now, you're playing

429
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: really well. You have a hiccup in Los Angeles, you're

430
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: playing well. They always talk about this in college basketball.

431
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: You don't want to peak in January. You want to

432
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: peak in March. Have you thought about, Okay, I got

433
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 1: some veteran players. I'm gonna give him the bye week.

434
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him. You know, this is no shell

435
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: this week, no pads. Have you thought about Bruce the

436
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 1: year differently because of just as an extra week, but

437
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: it is substantial to players. Yeah, we've changed our Wednesday

438
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: practice schedule already, h and Thursday. We've taken us some

439
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: reps out each price for which week it was. We

440
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: just walked through on a Wednesday. It was a real

441
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: physical game. We had some guys beat up that wouldn't practice,

442
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: that are gonna play on Sunday, but they wouldn't practice.

443
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: Let's just do a walk through and u and come

444
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: back and have a really heavy practice on Thursday. We've

445
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: got a great sports science team here who helps me

446
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: a bunch with that kind of stuff. But I have

447
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: about seven guys over thirty that we really monitor their workload.

448
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: You know, Fridays. We have a lot of guys that

449
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: don't practice on Friday, so they're ready for Sunday. Is it?

450
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: So that's easy for you to embrace, It's not easy

451
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: for everybody. Like there's been a cultural a little bit

452
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: of a revolution in the last six or seven years.

453
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean McVeigh came in this league and said, I'm

454
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: not I'm not playing anybody in the preseason. I'm not

455
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: playing anybody. A lot of people push back on that.

456
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: You have always been willing. I mean, hell, you retired,

457
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: you're broadcasted, he came back. You're always kind of an adapter.

458
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: A lot of guys are rigid. You're not a real

459
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: rigid guy. I mean last year in the bye you

460
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: and Tom came out and the offense had been tweaked.

461
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: Where does that come from? That you're most football coaches,

462
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: it's the football mentality. This is my lane, that's not

463
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 1: I don't perceive that as you Where does that come from?

464
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: I think I've always been a pretty good listener, you know,

465
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: and if you're telling me stuff and it makes sense

466
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: to me, Like this sports science stuff was all new.

467
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: Started in Arizona with us. You know, we went thirteen

468
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: and three, came back, lost the championship game, had a

469
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: killer spring, killer camp, and lost the entire team with injuries.

470
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: So this year is like, I don't want to see

471
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: if that until mandatory mini camp. We took the fifty

472
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: young guys. We had OTAs and you could come if

473
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: you wanted to, but you weren't going to practice. We

474
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: had mini camp. Man Bro, they were about to kill

475
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: each other. I'm like, whoa flow down? We don't I mean,

476
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: pads are nothing. It's like then we got to camp

477
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: and we had a hell of a good camp. But

478
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: again it was you're not practicing today, you're practicing two,

479
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: you're off one. Just load management those guys through camp. Tom,

480
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: how's your arm today? Do you need a day? No?

481
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: He hates not practicing, but as I you're not practicing today,

482
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: all right, and just making them take a day off.

483
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 1: And and those guys do a great job with Man,

484
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: they got so many gives mos on them, and you

485
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: can tell what the legs is weak and just by

486
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: how they're running with all the stuff. But you gotta

487
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: have somebody can read that ship. I had no clue

488
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: with that stuff. Man. They send me these graphs all

489
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: the time, like what does that mean? Tired? Yeah, he's tired.

490
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: Coach up. You know when you left Arizona, if I recall,

491
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: it was kind of a burnout thing. Um, how did

492
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: you get talked back into coming the coach? Yeah it was.

493
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: You know, I enjoyed broadcasting. I hated to travel, you know.

494
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: I'm used to getting on the team bus and a

495
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: team plane and go to the game and come back

496
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: and said that ship going through the air boards, grabbing cabs,

497
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: and now that wasn't that wasn't gonna get it anymore.

498
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: But I love going to practice on Fridays. I love

499
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: talking to the coaches and seeing the coaches and then

500
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 1: my son had a big mus Son's my agent, and

501
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: he said, look, you got to talk to Jason and

502
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: so what do you mean? You know, they got a

503
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: really good young football team. It's close to home. Um.

504
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: Then as I got interested, my whole staff became a

505
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: mild and my wife oles Todd Byron Keith, the whole

506
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: eighteen guys, and we've added some more. As I told

507
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: my wife, you're gonna walk into eighteen wives. You guys

508
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: can go have a hell of a lunch on Tuesday

509
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: right off the bat. As I grand babies are close.

510
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: Everything just fell into place, and I think she's so excited.

511
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: I got about it, and uh, you know, and I

512
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: gotta give the Glacier family a lot of credit because

513
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: I don't fit the mold they hired. I'm not the

514
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: thirty something young genius, you know. But it's worked out

515
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, I know. I worked out in Tampa

516
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: for two years. Rich McKay was the GM, Sam wash

517
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: and Toni or the coach. I love the Glacier family.

518
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,719
Speaker 1: They were great to me as Yeah. And they by

519
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: the way, they they're about family. They are they were

520
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: olds that way. You know. It is interesting. We kind

521
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: of joke a couple of years ago. Shit, if you

522
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: had a lunch with Sean McBey, you got a job.

523
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: It was like everybody had to be young, young, young,

524
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: And I'm like, come on, Belichick still win a lot

525
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: of games. We got to slow down on the young thing.

526
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: If you coach Bruce today against thirty six year old

527
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: Bruce arians, where would you take advantage of him? And

528
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: where would you look at and go oh like like

529
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: coach against yourself twenty five years ago? Well, you better

530
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: be physical first of all, your better your team better

531
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: be physical. Yeah, because I would. You know, when I

532
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: was thirty six, I was still the head coach at

533
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: Temple and it was my last year. But when we played,

534
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: we were you knew you were in a football game.

535
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose some guys in the game and you

536
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: might beat us, but you might lose next week. That

537
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: was our motto, Temple Tough and broad Street bullies and

538
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. And so yeah, I would. I

539
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: would know that when I'm going against this guy, this

540
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: is gonna be a physical, physical game. And that hasn't

541
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: changed for you. No, that's still I haven't been a

542
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: wish on quarterback, I guess, you know, Yeah, it was

543
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: ingrained in me that that was that was the way

544
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: to play the game. And you know, I was so

545
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: fortunate because I don't know if you know the story,

546
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: but my senior in my senior in college, I was

547
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: trying to get a junior high coaching job and I

548
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: didn't get it, and we got a new coach. He

549
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: taught me in the coming back out my fifth year

550
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: and we had fifty eight guys my freshman class scholarship.

551
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: I was the only one to make it to the

552
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: third head coach. That guy changed my life. I mean

553
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: I started as seventh team quarterback, ended up captain of

554
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: the team, most valuable player, and my record helped for

555
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: forty years most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback in one year.

556
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: I went more money on that one me or Michael Vick.

557
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: So you, by the way, so you sort of get

558
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: the Tom Brady chip on the shoulder overlook thing, like

559
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: you probably get it totally all the way, all the way.

560
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we went to Super Bowl forty three, and

561
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: every offensive coordinator who's one of a two minute drive

562
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: to win a Super bowls at least got an interview.

563
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: I didn't get a phone call. And it was like this.

564
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: This isn't in the cards, you know, for me to

565
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: become a head coach, Chucky, how do you get him

566
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: a key? Why do you think that is? Yeah, I

567
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, we've also had a lot of

568
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: drinks talking about it, and probably because I'd probably told

569
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: you exactly what I thought. I did one of those

570
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: interviews and don't ask me a question you don't want

571
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: to write answer. I don't give a shit who you are.

572
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: Right well, to be honest with you, this is a

573
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: true story. When I covered Tampa, Tony Dungee had to

574
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: interview three times to get the job. And I remember

575
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: they went to burn Steakhouse and I was taught. I

576
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 1: talked to Rich McKay's, a reporter, and I said, are

577
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: you going to name him after this? He goes, listen,

578
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: we know he's the guy, but shit, he's so quiet,

579
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: he goes, We'd just like to see him fired up

580
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: a little. So you didn't fit you and Tony didn't

581
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: fit the mold. I mean it was very much a

582
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: there was a parcels, you know, no kind of physical presence,

583
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: kind of angry. You didn't fit the mold. I was

584
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: probably more that way than the other and uh you know,

585
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: but yeah, I saw it. I wouldn't change anything, that's

586
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: for damn sure. Do you a couple minutes left when

587
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: when after winning the Super Bowl? Was there a moment

588
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: you're with your wife, you're having a margarita, and you're

589
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: looking at the Tampa sunset. Maybe it's the Causeway, maybe

590
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: you're on Davis Island, and you kind of pinch yourself

591
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: and you're like Tom Brady married to the woman. I love.

592
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: What a great city. I mean, did you have it?

593
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 1: There has there been a little bit of an out

594
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: of body experience, Like Jesus, this stuff has really worked out. Yeah,

595
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: I mean on the field, on the field the game,

596
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, we wanted three people on the field. So

597
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: my my wife, my son, and my daughter, they came

598
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: running out. We just had the most unbelievable family hug.

599
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: Because it's been a hell of a journey. We've moved

600
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: nineteen times. Yeah. My daughter, Wow, my daughter went ninth grade,

601
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: tenth grade, that's grade she would have went to twelfth grade,

602
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: but I left and she stayed all right, So it

603
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: wasn't not an easy journey. And uh so it was

604
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: we have a huge picture of it, and it was

605
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: just the most gratifying moment I think at ever. And

606
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: then we did we did go out to to to

607
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: a local tiki bar and just sit in the sunset

608
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: and go, this is really cool. There's I mean, you're

609
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: in right now. It looks like you're in good shape.

610
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: There's no reason to stop right No, I'm having a

611
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: blast and physically really good right now. And you know

612
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: the thing in Arizona that that second cancer thing really

613
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: shook me up. And uh but that my son turned

614
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: forty and that really shook me and like where did

615
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: all that go? And but the cats are um that

616
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: that was like is this all worth it? You know?

617
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: And then once we got all cleared up and all

618
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: that was gone and healthy again and all this was available. Yeah,

619
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: you're in good spirits. That's what winning streaks do. Oh,

620
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. There's no doubt. Even I mean after

621
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: that thirteen or three year when we lost all our quarterbacks, everybody,

622
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: and you fought your ass up to get to eight

623
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: and ete, it's still fun, you know. I know. Our

624
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: injury situation right now is this is bad on the

625
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: back end. You're gonna get worse before it gets better.

626
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: But hopefully in three weeks, we'll get a bunch of

627
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: guys back. Just keep hanging on to the great seeing you.

628
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: You look fantastic. You're an easy guy to root for.

629
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: Not everybody's easy to root for. Bruce, You're an easy

630
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: one to root for. Appreciate it, brother, all right? Great

631
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: seeing you man? All right, Bruce arians I got to

632
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: talk to him a couple of times a year. He's

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