1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Catty arm Strong 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: and Getty Enough he. 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty. 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: And Ohio based food company is issue a recall for 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 3: refrigerated mac and cheese because it contains an undeclared allergen. 7 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: Even worse, it's cats. 8 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say something that still went twice as well 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: as I thought I would. It didn't go great, I 10 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: would still double what I wanted. 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: I never used to be allergic to cats, and I 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: am now. I wonder what happened. Anyway, it's very annoying 13 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: for me to be around a cat. Cats have gotten 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: catty here, maybe so the sky. Arthur Brooks has been 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: getting a lot of attention lately. Writer thinker researcher this 16 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: piece Generation Z's Great retreat from risk teen drinking has plummeted. 17 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: So have dating, marriage, child bearing, and other leaps into adulthood. 18 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: What looks like prudence may signal a dangerous cultural shift. 19 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 2: And I thought, Okay, that's really interesting. So I wanted 20 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: to look into the central argument of this. Because, of course, 21 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: at first Bush the idea of teens drinking less, having 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: you know, premarital sex less, a variety of other things. 23 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: Seems like a good direction, but what's the reason for it. 24 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: It's not like wisdom and prudence. According to Arthur Brooks 25 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: in his study, is arguing that the rising anxiety among 26 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: young people are making them so cautious they're scared to 27 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: interact with other human beings. For the first time, this 28 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: is the first time a generation has said most people 29 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: can't be trusted. According to his studies, one statistic he 30 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: highlights is that only a small minority of gen Z 31 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: says most people can be trusted, and a large majority 32 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: believes you can't be too careful when dealing with others. 33 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: And that's a new thing. 34 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. Brooks cites a gene twenge the British 35 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: psychologists who did a big study too that generation they 36 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: have rejected risk taking of like every single variety, from 37 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: physical to romantic to. 38 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: Investing to just like anything. They're incredibly risk averse. They're 39 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: drinking less, dating less, having less sex, driving less, marrying 40 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: later or not at all, having fewer children, and generally 41 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: delaying traditional adult milestones out of He says, fear and 42 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: anxiety around this stuff isn't this rather than what you 43 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: often hear? And I don't mind making jokes myself, but 44 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: it is like some sort of criticism of that generation. Obviously, well, 45 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: first of all, they didn't raise themselves, as we often 46 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: point out. And isn't this our first set of data 47 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: of kids growing up in the smartphone internet world? And 48 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: this is the result we've gotten. That's part of it. 49 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: And the every moment is planned, no free play, no 50 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: running around the neighborhood sports a young kids sports are 51 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: no longer on the sandlot with their friends making up 52 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: the rules and forced them. 53 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: I agree with Now it's all of a set. I 54 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: agree it's about the parent, it's not the kids. But 55 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: that's been around for a long time now, it's been 56 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: going on since the nineties. That, right, we don't you 57 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: don't know what you'd be like. I don't know what 58 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: i'd be like if I had been presented with the 59 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: pace of information that like my kids get. I had 60 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: nothing within a million miles of that, right yea. My 61 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: whole life is just the speed of your brain and 62 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: taking in information. What does that do to you? 63 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: As I've said many times, human beings are not designed 64 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: to take input every single waking moment from the entire world. 65 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: It will make you insane. But to the previous point, 66 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: which I think is a big part of this. We 67 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: got an email, actually a couple on this theme when 68 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: we were talking about it. But the kids who grew 69 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: up in the every practice, every game, every minute of 70 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: the day is planned and supervised by adults world, they 71 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: now have kids and they're really into it. And those 72 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: kids have no knowledge of any previous, you know, way 73 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: of raising kids, and so it's it's compounding combined with 74 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: the stuff you're talking about. 75 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just, I'm a just. I'm big on the 76 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: fact that the never ending dopamine hit, whether it's a 77 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: good thing or whether it's a good thing giving you 78 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: a dopamine hit, or a bad thing giving you a 79 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: dopamine hit, like it's out of fear or pleasure, just 80 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: the never ending hits on our brain has made our 81 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: kids so anxious and weird. And this is not and 82 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: I don't see this going away. And those of us 83 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: who remember the olden times will be dead soon and 84 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: there'll be nobody on earth to remember that people used 85 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: didn't used to be this way. 86 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: I know I will be so at the risk of 87 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: us arguing over whether it's sixty forty my way or 88 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: your way, because I think we both agree that it's both. 89 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: Study after study after study has shown work denying kids 90 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: the university education in risk management that is childhood or 91 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: should be childhood. I mean it's like a direct A 92 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: to B relationship. Both are true. 93 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: Well, at this point, with YouTube and smartphones, you could 94 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: leave your doors open, give your kid one hundred dollars 95 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: bill and say go do whatever you want to do today, 96 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: and they would still sit there on the couch looking 97 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: at their phone all day long. Do whatever you want. 98 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: And I'm telling you anything, anything you want, you won't 99 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: be in trouble. I'd rather just sit here and kind 100 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: of scroll. 101 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. The Free Press had an essay by what's 102 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: this gal's name? Whoops, I've done the wrong thing with it. 103 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: So our parents gonna be so often have throughout my life. 104 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: Our parents are gonna be pushing kids now to say, 105 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: why don't you go get drunk this weekend? I mean, 106 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: if you considered that I don't want to go get drunk, 107 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: made a floozy, I have have some sex, get drunk. 108 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: You know about birth control? Right, try, what do you 109 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: need you need some. Yeah. Charlotte Greenberg, who's a doctor, 110 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: wrote a piece that's probably followed this very study, stop 111 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: protecting your children. It's backfiring. And I thought this was 112 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: so interesting because she makes a lot of the arguments 113 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, I've made, We've made through the years, how 114 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: everybody is hyper like cautious about germs and allergies and 115 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: danger and abductions and stuff like that, to the point 116 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: that they're raising a nation of veal calves, a phrase 117 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: I came up with, I think twenty years ago, but 118 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: I did not know some of this. 119 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: She mentions that drives through any neighborhood. Kids are not 120 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: playing outside in the afternoon in the evening. No I 121 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: mentioned that. And this is this goes back a quarter 122 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: of a century. I moved to this neighborhood that had 123 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: this giant, beautiful park next to it, and I never 124 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: I lived there for eight years. I never saw kids 125 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: playing catch in that park one time in eight years, 126 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: or shooting baskets or anything, not once in eight years. 127 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: Now on Saturdays it would be full of organized soccer 128 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: games and stuff like that. 129 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: But I know they were waiting for adults to tell 130 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: them what to do and then organize it. I never 131 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: saw two kids playing catch, which is just mind blowing, 132 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: and it's on baby boomers and gen X. I guess anyway, 133 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: So she writes, children are not playing outside enough. Kids 134 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: are not climbing trees, They are not testing the limits 135 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: of their bodies. Federal guidelines say they should get at 136 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: least sixty minutes of physical activity a day, one that 137 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: builds muscle and strengthens bone. Yet only about one in 138 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: four US children natalyst since meets that less than arduous 139 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: goal sixty minutes of activity a day. That's a low bar. 140 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: What children lose when they do not move enough is 141 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: not only calorie burner athletics skill. It is bone density, 142 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: muscle mass, balance, coordination, even vision. Childhood is when much 143 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: of the body's architecture is laid down, and when that 144 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: doesn't happen, fracture risk increases significantly. By age eighteen, children 145 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: have already accrued about ninety percent of their peak bone mass. 146 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: Know that, yeah, beyond structured exercise, children need unstructured play. 147 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: The kind that is child initiated, involves risk taking and 148 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: happens without adult direction. Play is not frivolous protective parents. 149 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: It enhances brain structure and function, promotes executive function, builds 150 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: the social emotional skills and resilience that help children manage 151 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: stress and adversity, and she mentions when kids do go outside, 152 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: too many parents experience outdoor time primarily is a UV 153 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: management problem. Reapply, cover up, don't burn, Oh my god, 154 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:39,239 Speaker 1: let the kids play, kick me off. Good for you, sweetheart, 155 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: good for you. 156 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like that ship is sailed. 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Yesterday, among other 213 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: things on the way, oh, we got to check in 214 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: on the war with Iran. What JD says and what 215 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: the Uranians say are two different things. Wow, I don't 216 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: know what's happening there. Stay tuned, Armstrong. So I don't 217 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: know how many of you are like me. You're not 218 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: really soccer fans kind of paying a little bit of 219 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: attention the World Cup soccer. Well, if you want to 220 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: sound like you are in the no, here's a little 221 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: rundown I thought was pretty good from CBS News last night. 222 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 4: And a World Cup filled with drama, Perhaps the most 223 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 4: dramatic moment yet Argentina's Lionnet Messi breaking the all time 224 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 4: record for most ever World Cup goals with his seventeenth 225 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 4: the incomparable one, then providing an encore with his eighteen. 226 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 4: The thirty eight year old Messi playing in a record 227 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: sixth World Cup, and he's now scored all five of 228 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 4: his team's goals this tournament. Today's two nothing victory over 229 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 4: Austria advances Argentina to the knockout round, which the US 230 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: has already done. Each victory, including the latest two nothing 231 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 4: shut out of Australia, has raised expectations. 232 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 2: The United States plays Turkey Thursday, who has not won 233 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: anything yet. They're in dead last in our group. Got 234 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: a snap Turkey's neck exactly that MESSI dude, greatest soccer 235 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: player of all time. Some people think he scored all 236 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: five at the team's goals so far at third age 237 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: thirty eight. 238 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 239 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's a little more about the fun hygiens going 240 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: on at World Cup. 241 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 4: Some of the biggest stars of this World Cup are 242 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: the fans. This was the Egyptian celebration fans hoisting hero 243 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 4: Mosela after the team's first ever World Cup win. 244 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: But for pure energy and joy. 245 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 4: It's hard to top the Norwegian fans performing their now 246 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: signature Viking row in times square and on an actual vote. 247 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: I caught up with them heading to tonight's match against 248 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 4: Senegal and asked what has struck them the most about 249 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: the US. 250 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: It's just the typical American things, the big trucks, the 251 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: American school buses, dunkin donuts. I mean, everything's so large, 252 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: including Americans, including US. 253 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 5: Yes. 254 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, see previous mention of donuts. 255 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: So they all gather together and sit like Vikings of 256 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: old and row and Unison, like their slaves in a ship. Hilarious. 257 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: They used to be locked under the ship to the 258 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: point of dying. Forced at all. 259 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: They enjoyed it. 260 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: It was. 261 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: It was fitness. 262 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: There was a rowing machine, but an actual moat. So yeah, 263 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: the players and the coaches all sit down on the 264 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: field and they beat the. 265 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: Drum boom boom who and. 266 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: Everybody in the stands, all their fans in the stands 267 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: are all wearing the red and white. They're doing it too, 268 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: and shot show as they pretend to row. It's actually 269 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: quite hilarious. Yeah, very cool. 270 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: How much I'm just charming and fun and it's people 271 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: doing things together, not on the internet. 272 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: How much time I got my go. 273 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: Maybe three four months? What you eat we got about 274 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: two and a half. 275 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: Okay, perfect. So speaking of fitness, so Henry went with 276 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: me on my nightly walk last night, which I appreciate 277 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: it because we get to talk and everything like that. 278 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: But he kept. 279 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: Complaining about how fast I was walking. And I always 280 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: walked fast as in my nature. But I said, well, 281 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: I burn more calories that way, and he said, I 282 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: don't think you burn more calories walking faster, and I said, 283 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: of course you do. So I asked chat GPT, I 284 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: said this, I said, during my nightly walk, I walk 285 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: really fast with the understanding that it will burn more calories. 286 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: But if I walked farther slower, would that burn more 287 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: calories or less calories or would. 288 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: It be a wash? 289 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: Distance is the main driver here, says chat GPT. So 290 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: walking further slower burns more calories than your shorter, faster walk. 291 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: The extra ground you cover more than makes up for 292 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: the slower speed. So the rule of thumb is walking 293 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: burns roughly the same calories per mile regardless of pace, 294 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: because you're moving a certain amount of weight a certain 295 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: distance either way, and you know, either it takes you 296 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: longer you're burning less, but it takes you longer because 297 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,479 Speaker 2: you're walking slower, but end up in the same spot. 298 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: That's because the cost is about moving your body. I'm 299 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: moving one hundred and eighty eight pounds two miles, whether 300 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: I do it at this speed or this speed right, Yes, 301 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 2: my whole life I've always assumed. And I thought, how 302 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 2: could that be trum? I mean, I'm breathing hard, I'm 303 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: sweating as opposed to like last week, I was watching 304 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: the NBA Finals on my phone while I walked, and 305 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: I was walking much slower, and I thought, it is 306 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: a waste of time. I probably didn't burn any galleries 307 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: walking that slow. But as I've learned that's not true. Yeah, 308 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: that's it's funny. 309 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: But you kind of answered your own question in a 310 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: way because your heart and lungs are working a lot harder, 311 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: so you're getting all that benefit, which is super good 312 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: for you. Right, But if you're thinking in terms of calories, 313 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: that's super interesting. 314 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 315 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: Although i'd argue, all right, so I'm going to burn 316 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: those calories more quickly and I can get onto other things. Meanwhile, 317 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: my heart and lungs have had some good done for them, 318 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: so uh huh. 319 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 2: But I must admit I judge people who stroll slowly 320 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: as what are you even doing out here? 321 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: Wow? Well that says more of fact are you than them? 322 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: I say it to them as I walk past them 323 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: really really fast. But even doing out here, go back 324 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: in your house, ask you some butter. 325 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: Speaking of AI and questioning it answers, it gives more 326 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: and more people and institutions and journalists are realizing, you know, 327 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: garbage in, garbage out, and somebody ought to figure out 328 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: what's going on here. Some really interesting stuff on that. 329 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: Plus a defense of the current JD vance let negotiations. 330 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: Believe it or not, Yeah, I don't believe it that 331 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: on the way. 332 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: You haven't heard it yet. Yeah, Brute, Armstrong and getty. 333 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 5: We took in more oil yesterday that we've ever than 334 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 5: has ever gone through the strait. You probably see that 335 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 5: we have an oil gusha. This trait is totally open, 336 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 5: you know that, and we're negotiating. We'll see how that 337 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 5: oil goes. But we have two things. We have an 338 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 5: open straight and we have a country that will never 339 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 5: have a nuclear weapon, will never ever have a nuclear. 340 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: That's a pretty positive spin And you only hear pretty 341 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: much positive spin out a Trump and the people closest 342 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: to them, because ain't nobody else with a positive spin 343 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 2: out there. This is the first topic in the entire 344 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: Trump era that has united everyone. Obviously, all the mainstream 345 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: and left leaning media hates the deal that Trump's making 346 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: with Iran, But the New York Post, the Wall Street Journal, 347 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 2: and Fox are killing him over this. Yeah to that point, well, 348 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: go ahead, was there mark including analysis like this? Analysts 349 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: projected Iran can in the next sixty days, say ten 350 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 2: sell ten billion dollars worth of oil in the way 351 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: that the restrictions have been loosened and the strait has 352 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 2: been opened back up Iran's also getting an initial twelve 353 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: billion dollars out of the gate without doing anything ahead 354 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: of time. It would appear that Trump claims they're only 355 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: allowed to spend on soybeans in for our Midwest farmers. 356 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: But it's ridiculous. Nay, it is real. Yeah. The JD 357 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: has been arguing that people are criticizing the deal are 358 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: either idiotic or dishonest or something like that. Jonah Goldberg 359 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: points out they might not necessarily be right, but they 360 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: are not idiotic. Name a foreign policy expert who's not 361 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: either on the White House payroll or auditioning to be 362 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: who thinks this is brilliant, flawless. I'm sure there's someone, 363 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: but our Walter Russell, Mead, Neil Ferguson, Roy Ta, Kay, 364 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: Brett Stevens, Benni Morris, Trey Goudy, Jack Keane, Elliot Abrams, 365 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: nearly everyone at the National Review, Commentary, the Dispatch, American 366 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: Enterprise Institute, the Hudson Institute, Foundation for Defense and Democracy idiots. 367 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: Not every that has the same criticism. Some are waiting seers, 368 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 1: but as far as I can tell, none of them 369 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: are idiotic. We got this email from Alert listener Ramsey, 370 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: who has actually been friends for many years with Richard Outson, 371 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: who I promoted to general earlier when I mentioned this article. 372 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: He's actually he was a colonel in the United. 373 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 2: States military, and you don't, as a talk show host 374 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 2: have the ability to promote people to general. 375 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: Turns out I don't. Yeah, yep, he hath called me 376 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: and said, hey, you got to stop. So anyway, he 377 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: was a colonel. And this is super interesting. It's long, 378 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna have to skip around a little bit. 379 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: But I even if he's not right on the bottom line, 380 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: I thought this was intriguing. He's talking about the MoU, 381 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: which looks like a weaker version of the JCPOA I 382 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: characterized it as the JCPOS that formally ends the combat operations. 383 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: Middle East residents are relieved and happy. President Trump has 384 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: presented the MoU as a prudent interim measure. 385 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: His critics on the left and right Assaileum for launching 386 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: an unnecessary war then concluding it on bad terms. Prominent 387 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: neo cons branded the MoU a surrender and defeat before 388 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: the ink even dried. See, I don't think it was 389 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 2: an unnecessary warrant. I don't blame him for launching it. 390 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: But you know, if this is what we're going to 391 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: get out of it, it doesn't turn out to be 392 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: worth it. 393 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And then he goes into some of the 394 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: critiques about the war and Netanyahu and the JCPOA and 395 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: the MoU Bo. He says, as usual with as president, 396 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: the truth is not so simple. Trump and state craft 397 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: defies simple critiques, predictions, or conclusions. The MoU is not 398 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: a surrender because he was not fighting war for the 399 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: overthrow of the Iranian regime. Rhetoric notwithstanding, he aimed to 400 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: inflict economic pain without inducing economic collapse. He had in 401 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: mind a limited war with clear aims and off ramps, 402 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: rather than an open ended war for the overthrow of 403 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: the regime. 404 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 2: And this is the part that rhetoric notwithstanding, is a 405 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: heck of a phrase. Though the Wall Street Journal went 406 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: to the probably unnecessary trouble of parsing everything he said 407 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: about regime change. 408 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: What we were going to do her. 409 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: Time is at hand. We've come to the rescue. 410 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: Rise up. Now we've got your back. We're going to 411 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: devastate him, right exactly. They like half a different half 412 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: a dozen different topics, and his rhetoric has been insanely 413 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: all over the map on. 414 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 2: All of them, and Trump and Trump to say unconditional 415 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: surrender and then up here is really amazing. 416 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: You would have to argue that that has no negative 417 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: consequences to accept that, And I don't. I realize everybody 418 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: now kind of bakes in. Oh it's Trump, so to 419 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: everything he says. But I don't think that's a good thing, 420 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: not bottom. 421 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: Line right, because we could end up at war with 422 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 2: a real country like China, and what we say has 423 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: to actually matter as a deterrent. 424 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So as a guy who's been into this 425 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: sort of thing since I was a teenager, I really 426 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: liked this part. War in the Eastern and Middle Eastern tradition, Oh, 427 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. War in Western cultures is often seen as 428 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: a binary equation. We are at war or we are 429 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: at peace. War is so terrible that it can only 430 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: be fought for the gravest of causes. Therefore should neither 431 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: be started nor ended without grave consideration and soul searching. 432 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: Once a war of moral certainty has started, it constitutes 433 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: strategic malpractice to end it before reaching the fire final goals. 434 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: Weaknesses and strengths lie in the totalitary I'm sorry in 435 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: the totality of aim and commitment. War in the Eastern 436 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: and Middle Eastern traditions is a bit less categorical worst 437 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: can be seen as an extended series of campaigns with 438 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: episodes of hot war and interludes of negotiation or cold peace. 439 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: These traditions reflect an intertwining of fighting, negotiation, punishment, incentives, 440 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: and compromise, often without overt capitulation or the overthrow of 441 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: the antagonistic side. Perhaps bit cynically, the expectation is that 442 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: conflict is recurring, if not normal state of affairs, not 443 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: a binary moral equation or critical path leading to climactic resolution. 444 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: And he thinks that may be part of the divergence 445 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: between Trump and Net and Yahoo, where Net and Yah 446 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: who sought the overthrow of the Iranian regime perhaps the 447 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: state itself, and Trump is taking more of an Eastern war, saying, 448 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: all right, we beat the crap out of a year 449 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: in worse shape. Let's hawk again and have a cold peace. 450 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: And he makes the point that the various periods of 451 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: containment the nineties two thousand's maximum pressure did not achieve 452 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: the state of aims, as Iran developed deeper military and 453 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: economic ties with Russia and China and its proxies and 454 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: kept trying to develop nuclear weapons. Research into coercive This 455 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: is another part, Jack, I think you'll find interesting, because 456 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: you've said this more than once. Research into coercive diplomacy 457 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: shows that sanctions, punishment, and attempts to isolate usually fail 458 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: without the addition of incentives and the support of broad 459 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: regional coalitions. Yeah, and so this guy's conclusion, and again 460 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: it's a lot. It'd be a great thing to study 461 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: for a few days in a political science class in 462 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: a university. Is measuring the memo of understanding against modes 463 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: of total war or complete containment generates outrage, not insight 464 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: because those models do not accurate reflect Trump's methods or 465 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: end state. That end state, unsurprisingly, is to get a deal, 466 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: one that meets core US interests, no nuclear weapons, low 467 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: oil prices, enhanced regional stability and integration without open ended costs. 468 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: Whether his mixing of fighting, bombast and negotiation works in 469 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: the end remains to be seen, but it is clearly 470 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: the game and goal, and it might work. 471 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: That's the best most intelligent Wait a minute, let's wait 472 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: and see. 473 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: I see what he's working at defense. I've come across. 474 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: I sure hope Iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon. That 475 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: would be the most dangerous thing that has happened since 476 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons came on the scene in nineteen forty five. Yeah. 477 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, easily the most dangerous thing. Oh yeah, more dangerous 478 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: than the Cuban missile crisis. 479 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: Sure, the Soviets and even the Chinese are completely different 480 00:26:54,920 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: actors than the the Islamo fascists of Tehran. So you know, 481 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: one answer to people's dissatisfaction would be, look, Israel is 482 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: going to keep doing what they do intelligence wise, so 483 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: are we going to keep an eye on them, and 484 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: if they show any signs of breaking out, we'll pummel 485 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: the crap out of them. The answer to that, though, 486 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: is that every year they get better at hiding what 487 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: they do, at getting it further underground, at protecting their scientists, 488 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: at anticipating the Israelis awe inspiring intelligence maneuvers. I don't know. 489 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. 490 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: There's always the buying a nuke problem. There was some 491 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: intelligence last week that they had tried to buy a 492 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: nuke from North Korea, or North Korea had tried to 493 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: sell them one. I don't remember why that didn't come about, 494 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: because you don't have to make your own nuke if 495 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: you can buy one. 496 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: Ask Pakistan who sold them. 497 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Israel has to be worried about the Okay, 498 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: their goal. Iran's goal was to get enough rocket capability 499 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: to overwhelm the Iron Dome and someday be able to 500 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 2: fire so many rockets at us that we run out 501 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: of the ability to stop it. And then they just 502 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 2: blow up all of Tel Aviv, to tiny country with 503 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: a couple of towns. 504 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: And kill a couple one hundred marines and soldiers ours. Yeah, 505 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: that's you know. One of the Wall Street journals tracking 506 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: parsing the shifting statements by Trump and the administration was 507 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: pointing out that very thing. It was all about the missiles. 508 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: Marco laid out the case brilliantly and persuasively at the 509 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: beginning of this thing. And now say, hey, they got missiles. 510 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: Other countries they got to be able to defend themselves, right, 511 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: they got missiles. 512 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: Who cares they got missiles? Israel has missiles. 513 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: We don't tell Israel and Saudi Arabia they can't have missiles, 514 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: Which is just a ridiculous argument, right, Because so this 515 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: colonel's assessment at this point might be really really astute, 516 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: but that doesn't cues that just bizarre. They think we're 517 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: stupid or not paying attention. Messaging from the White House 518 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: been awful. So Ian Ramer thinks this pool thing, Trump 519 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: is egging it on because he likes it, the reflecting pool, 520 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: the reflecting pool. He likes it bumping the Iran war 521 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: out of the top spot, which it has been. On 522 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: a lot of newscasts. They go to the pool thing 523 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: and questions from the reporter and Trump's answers rather than 524 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: the war with Iran, which is not. 525 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: About the ducks, Sir, what about the ducks? 526 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: Do you have any proof that vandals tore up the pool? 527 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: I can't believe this is a story that out shines 528 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: a war where the other side might get a nuclear weapon. 529 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: But it's definitely gotten more coverage than the billions of 530 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: dollars of fraud and waste in the various welfare and 531 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: unemployment programs around America that the administration has been working on. 532 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean hundreds, tens of billions, certainly of dollars, getting 533 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: much less coverage than the freaking reflecting pool. 534 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: I got to talk about this panel. I'm going to 535 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: speak at this afternoon, and it's kind of interesting what 536 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: they're up to. We'll have the details tomorrow next hour. 537 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: We talked about this yesterday and we're both excited about it. 538 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: This piece of thinking about one of the reasons everybody's 539 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: so miserable is that I'm not. 540 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: For the record, it's described as the great unbundling of humanity. 541 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: Community connection has gone given way to faceless mobs, and 542 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: every aspect of your life is a choice from I 543 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: love this because I think this makes sense. 544 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: Where you live, who you love, what you worship, what 545 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: you do for a living. You know, just everything is 546 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: now up for grabs in the way that you human 547 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: beings have never had before. 548 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: I have much to say about our next hour. I 549 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: have much to say about this because I think that 550 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: makes sense. That might explain everything, and I mean everything. 551 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: Quantum physics, oh boy, animal behavior, you name it exactly. 552 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: What is a dog thinking when it's wagging its tail? 553 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: It's all right? 554 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: Why it always lands jellyside down? Everything will be explained 555 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: by this next hour. This panel that I'm going to 556 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: be on this afternoon, pretty interesting topic. I'm not sure 557 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: they're going to like my take on it. Get to 558 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: that coming up next day. 559 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: Here everyone, I'm a Crumble employee, and we've started to 560 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: have customers come in every day or multiple times a 561 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 3: day for these new dirty sodas that have one hundred 562 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 3: and forty eight grams of sugar in them. One time, 563 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: I said to one of the customers, like, there's one 564 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: hundred and forty eight grams of sugar, and then I 565 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 3: got in trouble because I'm not really supposed to point 566 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: that out. And then they were like, well, you know, 567 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 3: normally I drink ten cans of coca day, so it 568 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 3: was that the same thing. And I said, well yeah, 569 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 3: and I said, so you're replacing your coke with the 570 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 3: dry sodas and they're like, no, I just drink the 571 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 3: ten cans of coke and then I also get the 572 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 3: dry soda. Oh, and also usually get a box of 573 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 3: six cookies to go with their drink. 574 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: You drink ten sodas a day and you go to 575 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: Crumble cookie now and then, which you really should never do, 576 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: but if you do, it's got to be like once 577 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: a year birthday special or something. I mean, those things 578 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 2: are crazy full of glories and fat. 579 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: That behavior doesn't explain the obesity epidemic, but it explains 580 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: it for that person. 581 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: It sure does. Man, we were at one of those 582 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: restaurants yesterday, kind of your upper end brass and glasses 583 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: that have everything, Cheesecake Factory esque, really good food, you know, 584 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: pretty high end stuff. They got everything, and the calorie 585 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: count on all that stuff just amazing. Yeah, it's truly 586 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 2: hard to justify ever eating there. We're finishing what you order, sure, yeah, 587 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: unless you split something, so that fourteen hundred calories salary 588 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: salad is down to seven hundred galleries. Yeah, fourteen hundred 589 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: calorie salad. Oh, that's something they had lots of those. Yeah. 590 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: So like the Cheesecake Factory Pie plant Cake conglomerate Bjay's 591 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: brew House. Is that a chain? Oh yeah, I think so. 592 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 593 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, good good place. Raid. 594 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, came across this in the Babylon Bee. Woman only 595 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: drinks seven and a half glasses of water for the day. Dies. 596 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: Oh that's so funny. Yeah. 597 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 2: So I'm speaking of this panel thing this afternoon. I 598 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: don't really understand what the whole event is, but I 599 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: know the panelimon is about the question they're going to 600 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 2: specifically ask me about, is about influencers versus trusted voices. 601 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: Mathosos is really interesting topic. They are talking particularly about, 602 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: for instance, the agricultural industry in California, which is shoes huge. 603 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: California is the bread basket of the nation and to 604 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: a certain extent, the. 605 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: World, with a lot of products. In many ways, it's 606 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: so vast. It's the dairy state, it's the beef state, 607 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: it's the broccoli state, it's the virtually everything. 608 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 2: It's the prune state, as we mentioned a lot, it's 609 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: the strawberry state, and ammons. Yeah, all kinds of different stuff, nuts, fruit, milk, 610 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: practically everything fruits and nuts. Anyway, there's a ton of 611 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 2: not misleading, I mean just false AI generated things out 612 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,479 Speaker 2: there that are floating around all of social media, bad 613 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: mouthing all kinds of California agricultural products. This person was 614 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 2: particularly talking about strawberries, and now there's so many ads 615 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: out there where the AI creates. You know, a mom 616 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 2: in her kitchen talking about do you know strawberries actually 617 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 2: contain and they mentioned some horrifying things and this is 618 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: what it did to me, and stuff like that, and 619 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: all these industries are trying to figure out how to 620 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: combat this. And one of the ways to try to 621 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: do that is by having trusted voices like Joe and 622 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 2: I hopefully where we could come on and say now 623 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 2: that's a bunch of crap and you would hear that, right, 624 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: and that everybody, I'm sure in the near future is 625 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: going to be figuring out how do you combat the 626 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: never ending onslaught of really well done AI videos that 627 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: are full of craps. 628 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: So what they're asking, in essence is. 629 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: What the hell type of ais d idy? 630 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: What a type of a. 631 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:56,959 Speaker 2: Right? 632 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: That's what they're asking, like so many of us are. 633 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: And then you have people that are real, it's not 634 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 2: AI created, like you know, I would use the example 635 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: of a Candice and Tucker, but you know other people 636 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 2: they're actual human beings, but they're spreading crap too. So 637 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 2: influencers versus trusted voices that might be the battle of 638 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: the future. And if the influencers are the trusted voices 639 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 2: out there, I don't. 640 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: Know what you do about that. And what about AI 641 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: recreations of the influencers saying things they never said right? 642 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: Ais I did right? 643 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 2: More on the way. If you miss a segment, get 644 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 2: the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. 645 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty