WEBVTT - How to Train Your Dragon and Live Action Remakes 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:05.680 Cue the bagpipes. Today's episode contains spoilers for How to 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:08.960 Train Your Dragon, the live action remake, but of course, 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:30.040 also the first installment of the original animated movie. Jason 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:33.880 Soon and I'm Mersey Night and welcome back to X 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.960 ray Vision. The podcast Will We divedo Your favorite shows, movies, 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.840 comments of pop culture companies form by our podcast. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.440 Where We're for you, three episodes a week every Tuesday Wednesday. 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.240 There's in today's episode, we are giving you our review 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:51.280 of the live action movie How to Train Your Dragon? 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.640 Ever heard of it? It's a part of it. It's 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:58.520 a live action remake of an animated classic, which is 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:04.120 going to inspire a round table conversation asking is it 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:07.520 a live action remake or an adaptation? Oh baby, I'm 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:11.319 sure that's gonna get spicy, and we will also be 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.120 talking about the future of live action remakes. But bust, 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.959 let's talk about it. Jason, me and you. What do 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:17.880 we think about this movie? 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:19.320 Let's do it? 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.920 Okay, we have recently seen. 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.440 The live action remake of How to Train Your Dragon. 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.360 A wonderful truly. You called it a classic. I believe 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:37.920 it is. And it's also it contains or has what 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.720 I think is a very underrated soundtrack. Now, yes, yes, 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.200 some people are gonna say, well, the soundtrack was nominated 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:44.760 for an Oscar. 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:46.640 It was, but it didn't win. 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:50.240 Still, I feel like it's not one that people talk 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.960 about in the same way they talk about, you know, like. 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:59.840 The Star Wars or Inception, et cetera. 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.200 It's a it's a wonderful soundtrack by John Powell, and 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.120 let's talk about what did you think of how to 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.000 How to Train Your Dragons? 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:14.040 Yes, I thought it was really, really enjoyable. I actually 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.240 decided to wait till after I watched it to rewatch 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.120 the animated one so I could kind of go in and. 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:22.160 Enjoy it. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.720 Obviously. We sat together with my friend Isaiah and my 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:29.200 eleven year old review guy that I bring with me, 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.240 who saw Minecraft. Yeah, I thought it was really great. 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.399 I was actually kind of blown away by how good 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:39.400 the casting was, how wonderful, unbelievable casting. Everybody is just 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:44.000 one hundred percent committed. I was very moved by the score, 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:48.840 especially the kind of like flight test flying with a 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.600 toothless score that they use as a theme throughout every 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:58.880 single time. That would just be like crying every single 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:05.040 It's it's so passed thrilling. Yeah, and we, I mean 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.480 we both talked about this after straight after when we 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:11.320 were at the cinema, But I was blown away by, 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:15.640 for the most part, how unbelievable this movie look, not 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:20.720 only the aerial stuff, the landscape, how they make the 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:25.160 dragons feel so real in a live action space, how 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.520 they light the characters to kind of make them look 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.360 more cartoony but still very much in this kind of 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.720 I really felt like they did a great job with that, 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.240 especially with Hiccup. They constantly light his face to look 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:41.920 anime character. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:43.080 I love. 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.360 I love the casting of his I love the casting 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.840 of Astrid Nico Parker. Big fan of her here. I 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.480 think this is the first role she's really gotten to 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.320 like showcase her kind of not only obviously there's a 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.280 lot of like kind of stunt prowess in this, but 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.480 just generally like her charm, her kind of. This is 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.120 the first great movie that I've seen her in. She 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.680 was most recently seen in another like to me, in 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.440 another movie that I'm sure we'll talk about, Dumbo, far 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:13.080 less successful live action adaptation. In my opinion, Yeah, I 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.400 just thought it was really really good. There were actually 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:19.799 multiple moments here to do with how good the movie looked, 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:24.160 the feeling of it that were giving like the original 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:28.720 kind of loath to throw back to them nowadays, but 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.240 they made me feel like when I was a kid 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.240 first watching the Harry Potter movies. There was moments here 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.560 where I felt like this could be an epic franchise 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:41.240 for kids. Cinematography beautiful, Jared Butler amazing. 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:42.400 I'm a G buts lover. 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.119 I love the g he love We love the G butts. 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.320 He rarely gets to be in any big movies like this. 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.600 He is definitely more of a B movie guy, an 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.440 action guy, a straight terme video guy. But I thought 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.480 he was so fun here. I thought the costume design 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.560 was fantastic, and really I was just I just thought 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.600 it was. It was really really great. How about you. 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.400 I I loved it. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:11.960 I found it comforting and thrilling all at the same time. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.320 Great way I thought the I thought it was a 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:15.279 wonderful you know. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:21.200 They They were so loyal really to the original story, 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.120 same director obviously, Oh yeah, and. 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:26.320 When I would be. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:31.800 And but everything that they added in the everything that 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:37.320 live action added was an upgrade, which I thought was 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.440 that's how you do it. When you talked about the 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.840 aerial stuff, I mean it can't be talked about enough 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:46.400 about how I mean it's powerful. I could watch a 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:51.000 two hour super cut of just the flying scenes. It 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:55.640 looks amazing. It captures the thrill and the energy and 0:05:55.680 --> 0:06:00.000 the dynamism, the excitement of what it must be like 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:04.159 to be, you know, riding Toothless around this incredible. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:09.480 You really do feel like you are having that experience. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.560 We got to see it in IMAX, and it really 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.520 does feel like the rush. This is a movie where 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.280 maybe I would go and see it in forty X. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.599 I want to think about in my hair. I want 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:26.120 to feel like I'm riding the spray, Yeah the cinema, 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:27.599 what the ocean spray? 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:35.400 And I you know they didn't they understood, don't change 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:41.039 what is broken, like this character design for not just 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:45.400 the human characters in the live action adaptation, like the hair, 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:51.479 you know Hiccup's hair is they styled it somehow the 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.279 same from how to the animated. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.680 That is really true. I was quite blown away by 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:01.000 that when I watched, I was white impressed. 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:05.360 And then also, you know, Toothless. 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.120 I don't know what of the character assets they took 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.160 from the animated version, or how they scaled that up 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.480 and improved it and you know, improved the textures, but 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:21.280 it it doesn't look as if they ripped Toothless from How. 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:22.000 To Train Your Dragon. 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:25.880 It looks like they took everything that was there and 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:30.560 just added more detail, but didn't lose that feel, that 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:36.040 animated feel, so that there were times where I had 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:40.960 to remind myself that I wasn't watching Toothless from yeah 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:42.520 animated version like it was. 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.520 It was a seamless sless and that is a critique 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.360 some people have sometimes, right, but like I and at 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:53.200 the beginning of the film, which opens the exact same 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.120 way as the original film, they show Buck and they 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.640 do change the the voice O very little bit, but 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.080 they show but and he's showing his home, and in 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.760 my head I had like the cynical voice was like, oh, yeah, 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:08.400 you're completely cgi home, Like it's clear. But then once 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.640 you start getting into the village and you can see 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.240 the practical nature of it, I was. I just thought 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.720 it looked so good and also as well, I was. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.240 I was kind of blown away. And I do think 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.920 that it is focused on something I really liked about 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:27.800 the live action movie versus the animated movie is they 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:31.440 gave some of the scenes like time to breathe in 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:35.040 the live action one that they don't get in the original. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.040 When I rewatched the original, I basically felt like I 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.559 was speed running the movie because things happened really really. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:45.120 Fast, and I guess the emotional turns even are really 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:46.240 really fa exactly. 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.319 And something that kind of came across in my opinion, 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:54.800 like really strongly in this version is how it's like 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.280 kind of a movie about like adaptive technology and like 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:03.160 disability and like accept invisibility, and that begins with Toothless 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.480 and kind of the film ends with you know, Hiccup, 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.880 and and honestly, like you know, my biggest critique would 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.760 be like, couldn't you have found someone with an amp 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.840 who was an like Cata limb difference, or wasn't amputee 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.440 to play like Goober's like the Nick the Nick Frost character, 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.560 or couldn't you have found someone to play Hiccup? But 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.760 you know what, Hollywood, they never doing that stuff. So 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.959 but I did think that the themes were like very 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.439 very well and you'll get to that. 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.439 I will get to that in a moment, because I 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.559 mentioned I do have a I love the film. I 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.040 continue to love the film, I love the animated series, 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:43.280 but I do have a dark take. 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:44.800 Yeah, you go to do it. 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.240 That said, I mentioned that I found this movie comforting, 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:53.320 and it's I love a good kids movie because the 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:57.400 emotions are front and center, but there's also that feeling 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:01.559 of like, hey, you know, when toothless biler, when toothless 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:08.360 is is chained up and harnessed and being forced to 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:09.360 lead them to. 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:10.800 The dragon mast. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.080 As a kid, that's gonna be intense. You're gonna really 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.040 a young audience member is going to really feel that. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.520 At the same time, because it's a kid's movie, there's 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:29.280 also that like gentle kind of undertone of hey, it's 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.560 gonna work out. It's gonna be yeah, yeah, yeah, don't 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:36.040 don't worry about it. And I found that really in 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.160 these times, it's a nice, really comforting. It's a nice 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:41.160 feeling of just being like, you know what, don't worry 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:42.160 about it, it's gonna be. 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.600 And also the eleven year old reviewer who also loved 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.520 the Minecraft and did did say after see a Minecraft 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:50.839 that was gonna make a lot more money than the 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.679 box I said, and he was correct. He was also 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.240 a big a big fan in this movie. I think 0:10:56.280 --> 0:11:00.320 it was very moving, it was very exciting. There were 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.640 even moments when he was kind of scared and it 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.040 was spooky, which I thought they did really well. I 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.920 also thought they redesigned the kind of I think in 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:13.959 the original Uh, How to Train Your Dragon the Red Death, 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:18.360 they redesigned him to make them like basically a terrifying Kaiju, 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.280 which I loved obviously. And I do feel like we're 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.280 going to be in an interesting situation this year of 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:28.200 being able to talk about having like a monster movie summer. 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.480 If this does well. I do think it's gonna do well. 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:36.800 I that saying that the film is gonna perform overperform 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:40.360 with sixty five million to seventy five million this for 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.840 its opening weekend. I think it's gonna make one hundred million. 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:44.760 I think it might be the high end of that. 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.560 I think. I think this is the kind of I 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:48.640 think kids. 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:49.920 Are gonna want to see over. 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.080 I love Minecraft, Yes, a love Minecraft. Kids are gonna 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.640 want to see it. The older kids who grew up 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.480 with the originals are gonna want to see it in 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:03.120 live action, and for an adult, it's a pleasant time 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.839 at the movie theater. So I think it's got all 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.200 I think it's got all of those things. Here's my 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.760 dark tick on this movie and the message of this movie, 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.840 and that includes the original animated version. 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.360 Yes, this is not a new edition. This is definitely 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.840 something that is a story. But it really struck me 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.319 this time watching it in live action. 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:26.880 Again. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:32.680 I love this movie, passionately love this movie. Said, this 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:38.280 is a movie. This is a movie about regime change. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:44.440 This is a movie about a nation who went to 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:49.560 war mistakenly with a culture and a race of beings 0:12:50.120 --> 0:13:05.400 that then tricks or cajoles a small minority of that race, 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:11.679 including several members who had been long imprisoned and enslaved 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:20.120 and potentially brainwashed, into assassinating their nation's leader so that 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:25.880 afterwards they can be put to work by the conquering people. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.560 That is basically what this story is. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:33.920 I love this. 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.320 Movie, but there is a kind of a dark undertone 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:41.000 of like colonialism and. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.880 Occupation and war and conquering. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.440 That's kind of like, hey, listen, all we know about 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.000 this queen is she's bad. How do we know that 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:55.400 we don't like because she ate a couple of her 0:13:55.440 --> 0:14:01.560 subjects and therefore it's totally okay that we take these 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.320 prisoners who we have been torturing for a long time 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:09.400 by doing various mock executions in a tournament format for 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:14.079 the entertainment of our town, if we then turn them 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:18.839 loose in order to kill her so that we can 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.840 take over this nation and use them as you know, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:24.720 are construction workers. 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.720 I mean that is that basically the same thing? Yeah, 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:32.320 I mean also as well, like let's be real that 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:38.440 we don't actually see the giant Kaiju dragon like do 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.440 anything wrong, Like she's. 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:45.520 Just she eats, like she eats one or two of 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:49.040 her subjects, which I am not condoning. I'm just saying 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:55.760 as an outside force, we don't understand the societal dynamic funny. 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.520 As well, because like in the live action when they 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.480 were like, you know, she's probably like controlling the don't 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.160 listen to them or something, and I'm like, I don't 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:03.920 know if she is, man, I think this is just 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.080 like an ecosystem. You can't understand, like she lives in 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:07.960 a giant volcano. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:11.200 Giant it's a kids movie. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:15.080 Therefore, I accept that she was evil. I am just saying, 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:17.560 not a lot of thought. 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:18.840 Goes into that. 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.640 Really, I think you're read is like correct and the 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.200 truth is right now, it's hard not to look at 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.760 things through that lens. And a lot of stories from 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.280 you know, fairy tales and obviously I'll Train Your Dragons 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.320 adapts from a book, but it's not that old. But 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.760 a lot of these kind of kids films they do 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:41.760 intentionally or unintentionally continue ideas of like assimilation or and 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.080 so so. So I think you're right to call this out. 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:48.360 And let's be real. The movie does I mean sorry, 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.600 sorry sorry I said, I said just noticing. I mean 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.960 I just say you should you you're correct to note it, 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.120 to note that it exists. But you know, like they 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.520 see this movie, go see it because it is really great. 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.320 And then you you can go in the discord and 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.320 then we'll go back to lay tank. 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.880 Okay, let's go to another break, and then let's bring in. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.760 The super producer crew and let's talk about live Actually. 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:27.560 Yeah, welcome to the floor, super producers. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:31.360 Joelle's superproducer Aaron. How are you folks. 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.480 Tickled by e? How do you want to hear it? 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:36.640 Let's do it. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:45.360 Any the movie there in the groove, you said, Jay said, 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:50.280 it is actually about two communities coming together. Joel, talk 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:50.840 more about it. 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.080 I mean I believe that that is also a reading, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.760 that's also a not unfair reading. 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.120 Yes, please, Joel No, I think the very. 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:02.520 Basic like jeneric reading is like this kid thinks differently, 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.200 and that's really beautiful and it really opens can. 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.360 We don't have to kill them, we can use slaves. 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:17.840 Jason's like maybe death is bad and being I'm not 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.719 saying that, and they do have and and he and 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.760 to listen and again tooth listen, Hiccup have a they 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:27.800 do have a very loving relation and loving relationship where 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:29.919 they love the relationship they. 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.120 Have the Hiccup wounded him. 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.320 And then I'm just saying the rest of the dragons, 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.320 for the crew, it's a little we get into like 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.200 a murky ethical. 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.600 Area considering that they were. 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:46.199 Released very quickly through that actually directly from dungeons and 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.680 like put to put to war fighting. 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.000 I'm sorry, but continue, Joelle No. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.800 You know I actually have the the esteemed privilege of 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.680 having spoken to Aaron separately and then you guys separately 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.640 and knowing your takes and they are oceans apart. 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.159 Real and tell us what this movie. 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:04.800 I cannot wait for this. 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:11.800 Shots that I am so different from you on this, Jason. 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.080 I think before you threw the break, you were like, 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.800 go see this movie. I would are you don't just 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.080 watch the original. You're not missing any track. 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:22.040 Please continue. 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.199 Yeah, so one of your I took some notes as 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:26.879 you were talking about. One of the things you said 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.879 was everything the live action movie added was an upgrade. 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.080 You mean, like the two extra minutes of training sequence 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:38.080 just sling. Yeah, but doesn't look amazing. Yeah, so I 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:42.160 do think that yossified How to Train Your Dragon looks better. 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:53.320 The dragons, the dragons, The dragons amazing. The dragons look amazing. Hiccup, Hiccup, 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.280 what's it? Hiccup looks like Andrew Garfield. 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:59.000 Too hot? Too hot? You've got your crush on this 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:04.600 young man, he lied. I was actually I had had 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.520 rumor that you had this feeling. I was actually feeling 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.639 for this kid, because Hiccup in the original is like 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:15.440 very generic, like he's got a completely even face. He's 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:20.440 just like a right like this guy, this Hiccup. They 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.520 spend like fifteen minutes early on in the movie lighting 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.400 him to be like make sure you know he's got 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.880 a big nose, like look at that nose, Like they 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.080 were like trying to make him look uglier. He was 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.679 no like yasified. I think you just have a crush 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:34.080 on him. 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.159 Also, I would just to lightly push back and then 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.320 I'll let you continue. His dad stood like the vast 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:45.080 stoke Jerry Butts. This guy's chest is twenty feet wide. 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.240 He looks like he's eight and a half feet tall 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.920 in his armor. He's a massive guy, and you're meant 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:56.840 to buy contrast, say, God, I wonder if Hiccup can 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:01.840 live up to the intense masculinity that Jerry Butch is 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.280 putting down on a daily base. Look at that beard, 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.400 Look at those muscles, Look at that helmet. 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.359 You know anyway, Yes, for as for as hot as 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.840 Hiccup was, Gerard Butler looks like ship. His wig was 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.000 so bad. When when he comes out of the water 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.879 and his wig is all wet, he's so bad. 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.520 My main care. 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.639 And hey, and I love I love Dead of Thieves 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:26.720 as much as the next guy. 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:32.040 So like I'm a Butler fan. I will say. 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.280 The one thing that this one I do think added 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:39.080 from the original was the Gerard Butler monologue to rally 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.199 the troops and get everyone, this is why we have 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:43.679 to go look for the nest and and they do 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.399 this great thing where he goes to the first Viking 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:48.800 and you know, you got all this glory because you 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:50.800 killed the dragon. You may have lost your limb, but 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.040 like you did all this great work, and now you 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:56.359 the Asian Viking. Okay, you can't go far away. You 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.560 don't get to have a line. You just came from 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.639 far away, all right, and moving like what a dumb scene. 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:02.840 I hated that. 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.399 I thought that like completely ground everything to a halt. 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.919 I will say, Toothless look great. I think in the 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:12.800 animated I felt like Toothless was very cat coated, but 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:14.800 in this one, Toothless felt more like a dog. 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:16.440 Well though I thought it was. 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:20.760 I thought it was like sixty five percent dog thirty 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:24.120 five percent excuse me, sixty five percent cat thirty five 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:27.520 percent dog. Like the scratching was dog, but like obviously 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:30.000 everything else, the face, the growling was cat. 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:35.399 Yes, but yeah, I I walked out of this and 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:40.520 I was pretty disappointed. I feel like the original was 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:45.400 better and this didn't add a new take on stuff, 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:49.240 like you were saying, you know, there's beat for beat. 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:53.560 You know, Toothless chained up on the boat guiding them 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:55.840 to the dragons, like they didn't need to change how 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:58.240 that happened, but there were things that could have been 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:02.359 a different read on it or something. I thought the 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.320 dad going in and saving toothless was less effective in 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.320 this than it was in the animated Again, maybe at 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.320 this point it's deep enough into the movie that I 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:13.560 have just like kind of I'm on I'm on the 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.120 back foot, and I'm not as happy with it already. 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.760 But this just feels like a band like went recorded 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:23.200 their favorite album and like words slightly Taylor. 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:27.120 Taylor made like several billion dollars exactly that. 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:30.680 Well, I do think, I mean, it's an interesting Joe, 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:32.560 I'll tell us that thread. I do think it's a 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:36.000 really interesting approach to filmmaking. Like I think some people 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:40.440 sort of view animation as like a big part of it, 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:42.800 just storyboarding. It's like really going through and getting these 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:44.640 story beats and so to have like made this entire 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:47.639 animated film and then you're not you're definitely not adapting it. 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:52.000 You are remaking it just in live action. I found 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.720 it kind of incredible, especially because it's the same director 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.280 coming back to his work like so many years later. 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:01.520 I thought, I will say, if I have like one 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:03.560 tick e tacky thing about it. Sometimes I thought the 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:06.879 frames were too much like an animated frame as opposed 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:10.000 to what you would shoot for a live action, Just 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:13.080 the way some of the times the characters entered there's 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:17.200 a hiccups walking. He's in sillow wet at one point, 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:20.760 and it's very flat when like if you pushed your 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:24.359 horizon not in the center, as we learned from Spielberg, 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:26.679 you would have had a much more interesting shot. So 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:26.960 there was. 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:30.560 Just learned from. 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:35.640