1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is on the air. Trust doct disease. 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: That every all mixed up? You think so. My practologist 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: used to be a photographer. He took X ray told 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: me to bend over and say cheese. 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: While we didn't know that much about Joe Biden's health, 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: we know even less about Donald Trump's health. He was 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: completely untransparent during the twenty twenty three eight twenty twenty 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: four campaign. 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: He has not been transparent. 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: Then we're in the midst of a presidential cover up 12 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: of Donald Trump's mental and pysical condition, and his doctors 13 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 3: are part of the cover up under his orders. 14 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: That much, we know that much his fact. 15 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 4: But it is. 16 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: Essential that Republicans especially, and I've talked to some Republicans 17 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: on the Hill, and indeed there are Republicans in the 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 3: Senate who are furious, concerned, worried about the president's mental health, 19 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: physical health, and they too want some disclosure of what 20 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: the real facts are here. But it's time for them 21 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: to step up and demand because we've never had a 22 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: presidential crisis of leadership such as this. We don't know 23 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 3: what damage may have been done. We don't know the 24 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: tests to his vital signs. We need full disclosure and 25 00:01:39,760 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: immediately the real possibility that this is a time that 26 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: the twenty fifth Amendment needs to be considered. This is 27 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: a cover up. It is a cover up clearly directed 28 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 3: by the President of the United States in his closest 29 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: aids in the White House and his family. There are 30 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 3: people in the national security of bureaucracy who are terribly 31 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: worried about what is going on in terms of America's 32 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: adversaries and particularly the Russians and the Chinese taking advantage 33 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 3: of this situation. 34 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: It's ongoing. I believe Director. 35 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: Ray is very, very at the FBI is very concerned 36 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: about the President's health, mental and physical, and how it 37 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: is undermining this lack of disclosure the national security interests 38 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: of this country. 39 00:02:41,200 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: Company what heart disease? 40 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 3: She said that he does not have heart disease. 41 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: He seen him before the show Corny, But yes, I 42 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: think so. 43 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: Technically he has non clinical athroscotic cornary h corniathroscorosis. 44 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: Some of this, uh. 45 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: Maybe, Samantha Sanderson, I mean you've heard these terms before, 46 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: cornary athoscrosis, cornary. 47 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Art disease, heart disease. People use these terms interchangeably. 48 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: And you know, I think, what what the test has 49 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 4: shown that he does have a mild form common form 50 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 4: of heart disease. 51 00:03:54,800 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: Nobody else really exhausted with all of this? President, Is 52 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: he one hundred percent healthy? Is he one hundred percent healthy? 53 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: And then Trump, I'm great, the greatest, the greatest has 54 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: ever been. Nobody's healthier, I'm great. No, he can't be. 55 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: He's almost eighty, he's he's got, he's got, he got 56 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: some wrong with him. He can't be president. And then, 57 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: of course the obvious reply is, well, what about the 58 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: brain dead dude that you never asked a question of 59 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: that was falling over, stumbling down, drooling, fondling. What about 60 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: that you never asked about that? And then we just 61 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: go back and forth. It's so tiresome and tedious. I mean, 62 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: we talk about it every day. It makes makes for 63 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: entertaining talk, I suppose, but at some point it's just silly. Okay, Well, yeah, 64 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure Donald Trump has some form of heart disease. 65 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: I doubt there's a seventy nine year old alive who doesn't. 66 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure there is some form of plaque build up 67 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: in his body. How could there not be. I had 68 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: dinner with my cardiologist, Stan Dukeman last night and we 69 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: were talking about stints, and you know what exactly a 70 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: stint is, And you know, still, I think of a 71 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: stint as a culvert. You've got an artery that has 72 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: plaque in there, and plaque is the enemy. So you 73 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: want to go in there and stretch that thing out 74 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: and get a good flow going right, much like a 75 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: fellow that's got prostate cancer. You want to get the 76 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: flow going again. And is there anything more fun for 77 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: a fella than you know, when a culvert or something 78 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: a drain is clogged up and you get in there 79 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: and you bust it all loosen and it flows there, 80 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: it goes it's flowing. And he was telling me about 81 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: the spring loaded stints that they use now, and it 82 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: goes in as spring loaded and this balloon opens up 83 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: and it is like a pipeline through there is you 84 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: can't press in on it. And it's basically, you know, 85 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: it's it's securing that this drainage pipe is going to 86 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: push some blood through there. It's pretty darn fascinating. So 87 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: to ask if the president has heart disease, first of all, 88 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: he's not up for reelection. So it's not like we're 89 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: looking at his long term health more than four years 90 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: from now. Most everybody, especially by the time they're seventy nine, 91 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: is going to have some heart deficiency minus one hundred percent. 92 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: Year seven. I saw often I'll have something on in 93 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: the background, but I can't listen to it because we're 94 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 1: working in the studio and recording things. And it said 95 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: that his doctor had noted that he has good genes. 96 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: And then we go back to the Sydney Sweeney and 97 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: then you've got people who are professionally aggrieved and offended, 98 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: really really dumb people. And that's what we have. That's 99 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: what the entertainment of politics. Politics is not governance any longer, 100 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: hasn't been in some time. It is entertainment. It is sport. 101 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: It is a distraction from real life. It has replaced 102 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: for many people sports or hobbies. That's why of the 103 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: Fox News is you know, get the ratings that they do, 104 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: is because people enjoy the sport of politics and culture 105 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: and and that crossroads of watching these really really not 106 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: very smart people, and that if I were black, I 107 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: would be bummed out. Why don't you ever put anybody 108 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: smart and black on the air to talk about racial 109 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: issues instead of really stupid people. It's Tracy Bird. Hey, y'all, 110 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: if you drink, don't drive, do the watermelon crawl and 111 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: listen to the TSAR of talk my buddy Michael Berry 112 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: from the mail back and receive the email from an individual, 113 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: I will use the name John Doe, although we did 114 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: verify that this is a real person. I was diagnosed 115 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: with stomach cancer at MD Anderson in Houston. They recommended 116 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: chemotherapy and radiation. I saw firsthand what that poison did 117 00:08:53,440 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: to my family members. I have received more messages from 118 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: people who have told me that chemotherapy killed their loved one. 119 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: Cancer didn't. I'm not an expert on the subject. I'm 120 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: not sure how many doctors are to be honest, but 121 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: it sure does seem to be something that is a 122 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: common denominator of commentary on the subject that chemotherapy did 123 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: not help, it hurt anyway. This fellow continues. So someone 124 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: recommended rs Rick Simpson oil. The problem with that is 125 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: it has to be made with thirty percent THHC indicica strain, 126 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: which is illegal in the state of Texas. I'm not 127 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: a pot smoker by any means, I have not even 128 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: tried cannabis till three years ago when I received my diagnosis, 129 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: so I had to make it myself and follow the 130 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: treatment schedule. In four months, my tumor had shrunk to 131 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: one sixth of its size. I don't believe that pot 132 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: should be legalized. I'm already a part of Teacup. That's 133 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: the Compassionate Use program. The medical marijuana Texas has only 134 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: zero point three percent. It needs to be raised. How 135 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: can the Texas legislature limit the amount of THHC in 136 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: medical cannabis. It should be determined between the doctor and 137 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: the patient. I'm sad to say that my Republican party 138 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: was also trying to ban it. I have all my 139 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: scans and medical records. Just wanted to get my story 140 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: out there to legislator. Legislator, since I first, since I 141 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: have first hand knowledge, can you help me? Well, we'll 142 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: refer to him as John Doe. 143 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 5: Welcome to the program, sir, Hello, yes, sir, okay, tell 144 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 5: me first roll about your diagnosis. 145 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: How did you come to find out that you had 146 00:10:58,679 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: stomach cancer? 147 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: Harry had problems with my stomach seven years before the diagnosis. 148 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 4: I was diagnosed with castroparesis. It makes you when you eat, 149 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 4: your nerve and your stomach that pushes the food into 150 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 4: your cold was dead and so it sits in your 151 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 4: stomach and you throw up eight to thirteen times a day. 152 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 4: And I carry that for seven I mean seven years 153 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 4: at that point, and so I started I'm going to 154 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 4: I went to hundreds of doctors and they didn't know 155 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 4: what to do or they just said at an upset stomach. 156 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 4: And I got hooked up with a doctor that specializes 157 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: that doctor quickly in Houston Methodists, and he did a 158 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 4: surgery where you go in your stomach and you shoot 159 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: that with botox and it worked. It worked for about 160 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: four years, and then I ended up with a feeding 161 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 4: two because it came back. And so doing a routine 162 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: checkup on it. 163 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: Is where they found it. 164 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 4: And they referred me to m Dams. So when I 165 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: went to them, they found it right off the bat 166 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 4: with scans and stuff. But more importantly was so one 167 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 4: of the things the recommendations coming out of them was 168 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: chemo and radiation. And I have a cousin that had 169 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 4: had colon cancer and they removed his stomach, is, bladder 170 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 4: and everything because it metastasized and he started doing this 171 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: treatment along with the radiation and came up and today. 172 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 4: Uh So it went on for about four months, five months, 173 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: him taking the rs UP and doing the chemo and radiation, 174 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 4: and when it was finished. When he was finished, he 175 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 4: still had some cancer cells and it had come to 176 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: his lungs, but he stole he he the doctors were 177 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 4: just astounded that because he had uh it came, it 178 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: went from colon to other parts of his body. And 179 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: so he started. He stayed on the r s O 180 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: treatment and he was on it for about eight months 181 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 4: and right now, uh he's in remission. So I went, 182 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: I mean, when I got my diagnosis, uh, I just 183 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: I chose a different way. I didn't want that stuff 184 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 4: in my body because I've seen it doing with a 185 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: mom and other loved ones and it would just it 186 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 4: just I thought it was worse for them than the 187 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 4: actual cancer. And so that's why a friend of mine 188 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: told me about or it so and so me, I 189 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 4: got on YouTube, I got on everything, searched it on 190 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: the computer, bought books about it, everything researched it. And 191 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 4: what I found was if you tried to buy it 192 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 4: in California Denver, different places that it gets stopped. You 193 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: don't get it whenever they can't sell it to you 194 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 4: with the Texas address. So I learned how to make it. 195 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: And I don't know if y'all wanted me to go 196 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: into how you make it, but basically what you do 197 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: is you take I do. 198 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: Hold on remote him up. I can barely hear him. 199 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: Are you speaking right into the phone? No blue tooth, 200 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: no speaker phone? Because I can hard? Okay, Mom, could 201 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: you bring up that pace? Yes, sir, okay, talk as 202 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: loud as you can. Go ahead, tell me how you 203 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: make it? 204 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 4: Yes, sir. You take your bud and you take say 205 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: two ounces of bud. You put it in a grinder, 206 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 4: electric grinder or you're uh, some people use. 207 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: There. 208 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 4: Oh, I can't remember what the name is, but you 209 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 4: you basically grind it down and you put it in 210 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: a glass jar and you cover that glass jar to 211 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: about an inch and a half about an inch over 212 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 4: which where your but bud level is. So you've got 213 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: a top part of the liquid a buzz. You did 214 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: take it and put it over a power bath with 215 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: pot hold on. 216 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: Just a second, hold on. It is Sevester Turner, the 217 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: mayor and a human being voila Michael Bettyshaw fellow who 218 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: emailed me and asks that his name be kept confidential. 219 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: We do not generally honor that, especially if you're offering 220 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: an opinion, because you need to stand behind your opinion. 221 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: But he shared his story not for the purpose of 222 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: coming on the air. I emailed him back and said, 223 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: would you be willing to come on the air and 224 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: share your story? He said, I would. Would you mind 225 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: if we don't use my name because it involves the 226 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: use of THHC medical marijuana. I would rather that not 227 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: be known publicly. So we did a check to make 228 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: sure he was a real person, and he is, and 229 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: we decided to honor that we do not typically do. 230 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: But we decided his name really is not relevant to 231 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: the story. It's the details of the story. So he 232 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: is diagnosed with a stomach cancer. We're calling him John Doe. John, 233 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: can can you go back? Okay? Ramon wants this is 234 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: called Juan do why he's okay? 235 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: All right? 236 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: Whatever? Whatever you're distracting me, Juan, I want to go 237 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: back to that stomach cancer because I never heard of this. 238 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: You know, I understand the concept of peristalsis which you know, 239 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: you can lay prone and eat or drink something and 240 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: your body will push it down even though gravity's not assisting. 241 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: But I have never heard of this condition. You said 242 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: the food would sit in your stomach and it would 243 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 1: not continue down. What exactly is the mechanism that is 244 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: supposed to keep plunging that thing further in that wasn't working. 245 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 4: It's the nerve on the bottom of your stomach. And 246 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 4: the disease is called gastro priess. Okay, and and and 247 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 4: so that nerve is responsible for pushing. 248 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: The food. 249 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 4: After it leaves the stomach into your cold and that 250 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 4: nerve was was damage. I'm diabetic, and that nerve was 251 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 4: not working no more. And so they put a they 252 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 4: went through my mouth, went to it, and that nerve 253 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: they would shoot up with botox and it would make 254 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 4: it make it start working. The first one they did, 255 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 4: it worked for about five years, and it was only 256 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 4: supposed to work for six months. I was supposed to 257 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 4: have that procedure every six months, but the first one 258 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 4: worked for five five years, and at the five years 259 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: I started getting sick again, really bad, and I dropped down. 260 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 4: I'm a two hundred and thirty pound guy. And I 261 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 4: was when I when they put me in the hospital, 262 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: I was down to one hundred and forty two. 263 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: Oh wow, and. 264 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I couldn't walk, I couldn't do anything. My 265 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: mom and dad had to when I when they released me, 266 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 4: they had to carry me to the bathroom and stuff. 267 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 4: And this time, Oh, I was forty forty two forty four? 268 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: Were you married when that happened. 269 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 4: I had a long term, ten year old, I mean 270 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 4: ten year relationship with someone I'm still with today. I 271 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 4: know everybody's probably saying, I all need to get buried. 272 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 4: And know what do you wait? 273 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 5: Oh? 274 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: No, Well, how come she's not there when your stomach's 275 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: all tore up? 276 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 4: Oh? She was, She was there. She was in the 277 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 4: hospital with me and stuff like that. 278 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So I know this isn't the thrust of your point. 279 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: You want to get to the treatment. But I want 280 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: to understand why were you losing weight? So when this food? 281 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: So were you in it? So basically you were, believe 282 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: it right, because the only way to disgorge this food, 283 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: since you couldn't pass it through your tract, is to 284 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: puke it back up. So you couldn't. I couldn't get 285 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: anything absorbed into your system nutrient wise, and I suppose 286 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: you probably felt like I hate the word gird, but 287 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: that's what they call it. You probably had a pretty 288 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: nasty case of acid reflux. 289 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, real bad. Whenever it would start during the day, 290 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 4: Say I would try to eat an egg or something 291 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 4: like that, I would throw it up at eight o'clock 292 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 4: in the morning. By nine thirty, I'm throwing it up 293 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 4: and I don't eat anything else the rest of the 294 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 4: day because I'm still about the last four or five 295 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 4: times in the day that I would throw up. It 296 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 4: was pure acid. It would burn your lips. 297 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's I knew somebody that was bliemic many 298 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: years ago, and she was friends with my wife and 299 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: I and we learned a lot about that as she 300 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: was going through trying to deal with that. And it 301 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: destroys your teeth. I mean, it could cause itself a 302 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: jail cancer. Those those though you know that the what 303 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: do they call it, that come up and burn your 304 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: your stomach. Acids are Wow, they can't dissolve a razor blade. 305 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: I think in seven years it's you don't want that 306 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: coming back. It's not meant to You got have a 307 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: back preventer. All right, so you start this treat. 308 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 4: And I've already spent I've already spent twenty thousand dollars 309 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 4: getting my teeth redone. 310 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: Because of it. Yes, sir, have mercy, okay, all right, 311 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry. What do you do for a living? 312 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 4: I work for refinery for the last twenty eight years. 313 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: And were they pretty good with you going through all this? 314 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 4: Well, it kind of got bad at the end. Before 315 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: I went in the hospital the last time. For that, 316 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 4: they were understanding stuff like and when I have salesmen 317 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 4: from construct I mean from contractors and stuff, come and 318 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 4: see me. One of them that used to work for me, 319 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 4: he was sitting in my office and I was talking 320 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 4: to him, and I couldn't get my trash can out 321 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 4: fast enough and I ended up throwing up on the 322 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 4: desk and partially his clothes. And that was the end 323 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: I took. I took a six month leave of short 324 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 4: term disability, and that time I was in the hospital 325 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: for five months because of the weight loss, me not 326 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: getting I was malnutrition the whole ninety yards and so. 327 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 4: And then I went back to work after I got 328 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 4: out of the hospital after a month of being in 329 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 4: the hospital, out of the hospital and so and now 330 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 4: I got a feeding to. So what is happening is 331 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 4: with them feeding to, I can drain the acid off 332 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 4: my stomach on one line. One line goes to my 333 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 4: coal and where the bags of nutrition goes straight to 334 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: my co and bypasses my stomach. 335 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So then how did you get into the THC 336 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: treatment and you start making that walk me through that? 337 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't do it for the gastro parises at 338 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 4: this point. You know, at that point I had that 339 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 4: too then, So I wasn't throwing up. I wasn't doing 340 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 4: anything but on a routine visit for them to look 341 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 4: at my stomach and stuff like that, they found it 342 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: and it wasn't inside of my stomach. It was on 343 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 4: the outside and that scan picked it up and so 344 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 4: they burst. 345 00:24:51,240 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: All right, hold on just a second. I don't care 346 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: if somebody do you suspects you. You can't shoot Michael. 347 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: Our guests had a horrible stomach cancer. It made life 348 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: almost impossible to live. And then he found a treatment 349 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: that involved th HC. So, John, why don't you take 350 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: it away on that treatment and how it helped you. 351 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I was taking RSO. 352 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: Rick Simpsons, sorry, okay, okay, one Ramona's in my ear 353 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: and he's ear taking me go ahead. One m. 354 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 4: I was taking the RSO treatment and it's what the 355 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 4: dosage is, a size grain of rits three times a 356 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 4: day in your mouth. And I took that for three 357 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 4: and a half months. When I went back to M. 358 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 4: D Anderson, they scanned me again and that tumor had 359 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 4: shrinked to trunk to one sixth the size that it 360 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 4: was in three and a half months of doing that treatment. 361 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 4: And I continued that treatment. They scheduled me this for 362 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: surgery to take it out, and they did, and I 363 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 4: still maintained that schedule of that or a show schedule 364 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 4: for two and a half months after that. And so 365 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 4: I took a short term disability that way I wouldn't 366 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 4: be getting protested and stuff like that at work. And 367 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 4: and it worked, I mean after they turned it off, 368 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 4: pulled it out, I didn't have any other sign My 369 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 4: blood work was come back good after at the end 370 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 4: of that six months and stuff. And uh, when I 371 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 4: when I went into N. D Anderson the second time, 372 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 4: I mean the third time, they asked me what are 373 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 4: you taking? And I tried to tell them and he's like, no, 374 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 4: there's no way, and they argued with me, and the 375 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 4: doctor said, well, you know, we can't recommend that, and 376 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 4: I was thinking in my head, yeah, because big Farmer's 377 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 4: painting for all the prescription and drugs cancer treatment shall do. 378 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 4: So it worked for me and I'm still cancer free, 379 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 4: and I just hate the fact that Damn Patrick is 380 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: sitting up in Austin trying to ban the stuff. And 381 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 4: I talked to my state Senator, Robert Nichols, and. 382 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: They blew me all they don't want to hear it. 383 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 4: And then I tried to call my house, Sir. 384 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: They don't want to hear it, No, they don't. 385 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 4: And then I went to my representative, which covers Chambers 386 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 4: County and Galston County, and they didn't want to hear it. 387 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 4: They both voted the bannit yep. And so I'm sitting 388 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 4: here thinking, you know, that's a constitutional violation. You're I'm 389 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 4: trying to pursue a life and you're taking that away 390 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 4: from me. You know. 391 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: You know, here is the thing. This is a very 392 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: very complex, difficult issue. So much of public policy is 393 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: good versus evil bad guys that are like rabid animals 394 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: that prey on people, and then they finally get caught 395 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: bashing somebody's head in Do we send them away forever? 396 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: Do we send them away for a long time or sorrows? 397 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: Do we release them back out on the streets. These 398 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: aren't complicated. The pretty easy. We can deal with these 399 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: pretty easily. But THCHC an evolving understanding of how it 400 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: can help some people. Just like most every other thing, 401 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: there is the capacity to abuse this drug. There's no 402 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: doubt about that, just as there is with alcohol or 403 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: for that matter, coft syrup or hair spray or food 404 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: or fill in the blank. These individuals do not want 405 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: to hear this because they don't want to have to 406 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: with difficult subjects. They want to make their position, They 407 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: want to take their position. They want to make their statement. 408 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: They want to shoehorn their position into how they're patriotic 409 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: and good and not evil and strong and smart and American. 410 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: And then you got a lot of people out here, 411 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: including veterans, for whom this is the only thing that 412 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: has given them any relief, begging please don't take this away. 413 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: Pain is a horrible thing. Suffering is a horrible thing. 414 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: If you could find a way to give someone a 415 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: palliative response, solution to pain and suffering. Why wouldn't you 416 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: and the idea that you could turn your back on that. 417 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: This is that dumbass lubbook Republican State Senator Charles Perry, 418 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: who Dan Patrick put in charge of this, so Rose 419 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: o'donald gives him the call you I'm mc ginn it, 420 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: i'mmagin it. He's asked if this was the nineteen thirties, 421 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: would you be for prohibition? And he says I probably would, 422 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: knowing what I do today because Alky Hall's bad Prohibition 423 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: is one of the stupidest positions public policy positions this 424 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: country has ever taken, and it costs this country dearly. 425 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: And this dumb ass in the name of supposedly being concerned. See, 426 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: this is why we lose elections. We're not gaining any voters. 427 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: Let me be clear on this. We're not gaining any 428 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: voters from Dan Patrick's position on this, just a question 429 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: of how many we lose. But all I hear every day, 430 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't hear anybody going I love this band, this 431 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: is great. All I hear all I hear is I 432 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: won't vote for Republicans after this. Dan Patrick is an idiot. 433 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick is making a stupid move, and he put 434 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: Charles Perry in charge, and like a dog that he's 435 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: told to go over here and sit. That's what Charles 436 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: Perry's doing. I don't have time to play the clip 437 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: in this segment, but I will the next one. He 438 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: has asked, he has asked, and you'll hear him say it. 439 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: If this was the nineteen thirties, would you be a prohibitionist? 440 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: I probably would, knowing what I do now. We got 441 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: too many people dying from regulated products. Well, first of all, 442 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: not one person is dying from marijuana. Not one. That 443 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: is a medical fact, that is a scientific fact. Not one, 444 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: not a few, not a couple dozen, not such a 445 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: minimal amount that we don't need to work, not one. 446 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: We don't need Republicans who could fit in in Iran. 447 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: We don't need Republicans clucking that everybody else is debauched. 448 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: Y'all overre having a drink before noon on Sunday, we're 449 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: gonna put into blue log. Y'all ought not be out 450 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: after nine o'clock. Ain't nothing good to come of it. 451 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: And y'all ought not be eat up with that dope 452 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: over there, and then you find and y'a ought not 453 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: be running around. You find out that guys like this 454 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: every time, You find out that guys like this are 455 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: hiding so many things. And then when they're busted, boy, 456 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: they want the forgiveness.