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Speaker 4: make it to the crown.
Speaker 3: You destroyed your dentist as surfer.
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Speaker 4: you jacked your tooth totally up while we were waiting
Speaker 4: for your permanent grown. Now we got to order you
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Speaker 4: know that isn't how he talks though he's super cool dude,
Speaker 4: but he had to really do some work because I
Speaker 4: fractured my tooth.
Speaker 5: This is gonna come off as sound like a d bag,
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna go ahead and do it.
Speaker 3: I'm very ignorant when it comes.
Speaker 5: To teeth, despite the fact that my father in law
Speaker 5: is orthodonists. But I never asked questions about it, mostly
Speaker 5: because I really don't care. But but like, what so
Speaker 5: the crowns for a while, if you have a cavity
Speaker 5: or something.
Speaker 4: I had to get a root canal. Yeah, so they had, so.
Speaker 3: You get a root canal when again a cavity you
Speaker 3: have something.
Speaker 4: No, they don't remove it. They just like drill to
Speaker 4: the the nerve and then like yeah to the root. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then they like killed the nerve and then they
Speaker 4: let it heal, and then they put a crown on it,
Speaker 4: and it's like nothing ever happened, you know. But I
Speaker 4: had a temporary crown on because I'm getting a gold
Speaker 4: and I hear maybe that's the moral of the story.
Speaker 4: I was, I'm getting a matching goal. A goal, yeah,
Speaker 4: but it's in the back. It's in the back.
Speaker 5: Why would okay, hold on, this is great, We're gonna
Speaker 5: break the style. Why would you want to get a
Speaker 5: gold tooth and that no one's going to see in
Speaker 5: the back?
Speaker 3: Gods, I can, right, but no one's ever gonna see it.
Speaker 3: So what do you like them?
Speaker 4: I smile pretty big, que and I gotta I already
Speaker 4: have one gold. Have you ever saw a gold tooth
Speaker 4: in my in my mouth? Like when I smile, smile
Speaker 4: enough around, shut up? Some people might see it, you know,
Speaker 4: almost cursed on a.
Speaker 5: Curve, look deep back in there. That's correct, that's correct.
Speaker 5: So if you see it, if you see it, you
Speaker 5: know it's because he.
Speaker 4: Was really in my mouth. But I'm gonna get another
Speaker 4: one on the opposite side of matching one. And I
Speaker 4: was waiting on it. And while I was waiting on it,
Speaker 4: I guess, I was. I was sitting around. I was.
Speaker 4: I know, I'm not supposed to chew nuts, but I
Speaker 4: wouldn't as I was chewing on nut clusters and then
Speaker 4: I fractured my too. Okay, but which one can't be
Speaker 4: a cashew? Cashews too? It was it was a cluster,
Speaker 4: so it was almonds, it was cashws, it was sunflower seeds,
Speaker 4: and it's like put together and like dar kind of
Speaker 4: like that. But they're like they're keto. They're Keto though,
Speaker 4: so they're pretty good. But yes, yes, And I was
Speaker 4: just sitting there and I was chewing and I bit
Speaker 4: and I felt it boom, like I fractured it too.
Speaker 4: I didn't even know you could fracture too. I just
Speaker 4: thought you break it, which a fracture is a break,
Speaker 4: I guess, But I mean, I don't know. I'd never
Speaker 4: heard that terminology used. And it scared me, you know.
Speaker 4: I was sitting there and they were like, man, they
Speaker 4: were going through the language of it and taking the
Speaker 4: X rays and then they were like, yeah, da da,
Speaker 4: there's such and such a bicuspics and this is that
Speaker 4: one is fractured. I was like, fractured. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My dadd has told me said, listen, nuts will get
Speaker 2: you every time.
Speaker 3: He said, just relax. He said that a trick.
Speaker 2: Is you can take almonds and you soak them in
Speaker 2: water to make them some if you want to, uh,
Speaker 2: if you still want to get your your almend fix.
Speaker 5: Alright, this is the part of conversation where I have
Speaker 5: the jump and so well, let's get the sports.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 5: Come on, man, we were good until we started get
Speaker 5: into the nuts conversations.
Speaker 4: Too much nuts is not good for you.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, some would say that the Jets organization
Speaker 2: is nuts. Some would say they've been nuts for quite
Speaker 2: some time.
Speaker 4: The reason sometimes like a nut.
Speaker 2: And apparently it was a nutty situation and departure for
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, who spoke yesterday on the Pat McAfee show
Speaker 2: starring aj Hawk and Rogers decided to air out the
Speaker 2: New York Jets and describe what the final meeting was
Speaker 2: with Aaron Glenn with Aaron Moogie. This is entire situation debacle,
Speaker 2: if you will. Here was Rogers breaking it all down.
Speaker 6: I figured they went.
Speaker 7: I flew across country on my own dime that there
Speaker 7: was going to be a conversation, and twenty seconds in
Speaker 7: he goes, I mean literally, I'm talking to the GM
Speaker 7: about something and he leans to the to a sheet and.
Speaker 6: Goes, should you want to play football?
Speaker 7: And I was like, yeah, I'm interested, and he said
Speaker 7: we're going a different direction in quarterback and I was
Speaker 7: kind of shocked. Now, not shocked because I didn't think
Speaker 7: that was a possibility. Listen, of course they want to
Speaker 7: move on. That's totally fine, but shocked because I just
Speaker 7: flew across the country.
Speaker 6: You could have told me this on the phone.
Speaker 7: So I said huh, and he goes, we just want
Speaker 7: to know how you want it released the messaging and
Speaker 7: I said why And then he said, I don't want
Speaker 7: to be up in front of the room saying something
Speaker 7: and have guys looking back.
Speaker 6: At you interesting And I said, what does that even mean?
Speaker 7: Are you assuming that I would be in the back
Speaker 7: of the room during the team meeting undermining what you're saying.
Speaker 7: I said, you don't know me, and he said you
Speaker 7: don't know me, and then I said exactly, which is
Speaker 7: why I flew across the country to have a face
Speaker 7: to face meeting with you to talk about my experience
Speaker 7: with the Jets. What I thought was going to be
Speaker 7: a couple hour meeting turned into like a fifteen minute
Speaker 7: meeting and I walked out of there.
Speaker 2: So there's your your final moments with the New York Jets.
Speaker 3: And was that a beef?
Speaker 4: You don't know me, homie. Look, man, you don't know.
Speaker 5: This has to look terrible for the Jets, right, Oh gosh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: I mean, because here's the reality of it.
Speaker 5: If if that's how you're willing to deal with the
Speaker 5: guy wh's gonna be a first Battle Hall of Famer,
Speaker 5: how do you feel like they're gonna deal with guys
Speaker 5: who are on the back end of the roster? I
Speaker 5: mean as a player, and I'm not saying that like
Speaker 5: all players like Aaron Rodgers or all players even relate
Speaker 5: to Aaron Rodgers. He seems to have a good rapport
Speaker 5: with his teammates. But you sit there and go, this
Speaker 5: is how this, this is how the team's handling this
Speaker 5: guy like he Now, mind you, he probably flew private
Speaker 5: like his on his own dime.
Speaker 3: It's like that.
Speaker 5: It's not like the team's flying him there on his
Speaker 5: jet to get there, which is a pretty penny if
Speaker 5: you're coming from California to New York and back. Like
Speaker 5: I would estimate, I don't know. Someone who's in the
Speaker 5: industry would would probably correct me, tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: Minimum eighty thousand dollars hundred thousand just for that trip.
Speaker 3: There and back.
Speaker 5: Minimum, that's probably what he's spent doing it. And to
Speaker 5: not at least want to hear from a guy who's
Speaker 5: won or Super Bowl won what four MVPs seems to
Speaker 5: have a different perspective on the league, but could give
Speaker 5: some insight to Aaron Glenn who's stepping into his first
Speaker 5: opportunity as a head coach and doesn't know this organization,
Speaker 5: regardless of what anyone wants to say, doesn't note as
Speaker 5: well as Aaron Rodgers. He's been there the last two years.
Speaker 5: He's got a much better feel for the pulse of
Speaker 5: Woodie Johnson how things have operated the past couple of
Speaker 5: years than Aaron Glenn does. And he didn't want to
Speaker 5: take the time just to pick his brand and talk
Speaker 5: to him, even if he didn't want to see him
Speaker 5: as his quarterback.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: It's kind of goes back to like the Bill Belichick
Speaker 5: not getting more interviews, Like teams didn't even want to
Speaker 5: take the opportunity when you had a legitimate chance to
Speaker 5: take the opportunity to pick one of the greatest football
Speaker 5: minds mind in an interview, even if you don't want
Speaker 5: to hire him, just bring him into at least interview
Speaker 5: him and see what we can get from him, right knowledge,
Speaker 5: he'll be willing to give up and maybe pour into you,
Speaker 5: your organization, your leaders, whoever. And so for Aaron Glenn,
Speaker 5: you didn't even want to do that. You're just gonna
Speaker 5: jump right to the point. And I guess I understand
Speaker 5: to a degree he doesn't want to waste his time.
Speaker 5: But then to Aaron Rodgers' point, just give m a
Speaker 5: phone call, Like if it's over like that, just give
Speaker 5: him a phone call. This makes it look like the Jets,
Speaker 5: and LaVar has said it all along, our dysfunction, but
Speaker 5: also now it looks even more like a clown show,
Speaker 5: and it feels like you've got a head coach who, yeah,
Speaker 5: maybe he has an idea of what he's trying to build,
Speaker 5: but it almost makes it look even worse to how
Speaker 5: this year is gonna go with Justin Fields as their quarterback.
Speaker 3: If things don't go well, it's.
Speaker 5: A disaster because you had a guy you could have
Speaker 5: brought back, who's a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3: And so if he goes somewhere else and plays.
Speaker 5: Well and that team's in the hunt, or if that
Speaker 5: and even then like forget that, that might be even
Speaker 5: separate from if the Jets just fall apart become a
Speaker 5: dumpster fire. He could be a one and done Like
Speaker 5: these are some of the things that start to come
Speaker 5: out in the media where it puts more and more
Speaker 5: pressure and makes everyone question, is this guy maybe there's
Speaker 5: a reason why it took him so long to become
Speaker 5: a head coach. He's been a great decordinator, he's had
Speaker 5: a great reputation, But then you watch how he handles
Speaker 5: this instance, this situation, I don't know, man, dysfunction, clown show,
Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3: That's the right back of the Jets are again.
Speaker 4: I have a theory, and the theory is he is
Speaker 4: acting off of off of the feelings of ownership. And
Speaker 4: I've seen this happen before. I've been I've been a
Speaker 4: party to Joe Gibbs falling victim to doing the same
Speaker 4: exact thing. I was the leader of a team, I
Speaker 4: was the face of a of a team, of a
Speaker 4: franchise of the town and due to a vendetta that
Speaker 4: was apparently I wasn't really even aware of it, but
Speaker 4: due to a vendetta of the owner and how he
Speaker 4: turned his feelings on how he felt about me, he
Speaker 4: tasked someone else, because he's a coward. He tasked someone
Speaker 4: else to be his henchman, and Joe Gibbs went for it.
Speaker 4: He took the cheese, and his coward ass did the
Speaker 4: same thing like head behind, you know, things he shot
Speaker 4: in the head behind, and the conversations that he and
Speaker 4: I were having, which was interesting because if media was
Speaker 4: where it was at right now, I'd have probably did
Speaker 4: the same thing that Aaron Rodgers did and had the
Speaker 4: conversation about it, and we probably be having the same
Speaker 4: conversation about how you have a dysfunctional organization. I tend
Speaker 4: to believe that Aaron Glenn and handling Aaron Rodgers was
Speaker 4: totally doing with the influence of what he had already
Speaker 4: had got from and communicated with Woody Johnson in terms
Speaker 4: of how they made him feel, in terms of what
Speaker 4: they think took place with Aaron Rodgers in New York,
Speaker 4: and Aaron Glenn was executing what his feelings were towards
Speaker 4: the situation with Aaron Rodgers, and did that under the
Speaker 4: influences and the pretenses of what was fed to him
Speaker 4: once he came to the New York Jets as their
Speaker 4: head coach. So in a way, while we'll say, okay, maybe,
Speaker 4: as a head coach, you don't allow for an owner
Speaker 4: or corporate to dictate how you handle a situation. Keep
Speaker 4: your emotions out of it. You are the head coach
Speaker 4: of this team. You have to manage the relationships with
Speaker 4: these players differently. But that could be also tongue in cheek,
Speaker 4: because we all know this is the man that hires you.
Speaker 4: This could be the man that fires you, whether it's
Speaker 4: a year, whether it's two years, whatever it may be.
Speaker 4: And he's already showing signs of trying to pacify dysfunction.
Speaker 4: That's my theory. I don't think that Aaron Glenn would
Speaker 4: have wanted to take the stance he took with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4: In fact, knowing Aaron Glenn, I would assume he would
Speaker 4: want the best players on his team. I don't think
Speaker 4: he had a choice. I don't think he had a
Speaker 4: choice in the matter of keeping Aaron Rodgers on that
Speaker 4: roster based upon the feelings that were going towards Aaron
Speaker 4: Rodgers and Aaron Glenn was tasked to make that one
Speaker 4: of the first things that he handled once taking the job.
Speaker 2: So then Woody Johnson is still meddling in decisions, got it.
Speaker 4: I think the influence. I think the only way you
Speaker 4: take because let's be clear, as former players, whether you're
Speaker 4: a coach now, whether we just you know, whatever you're
Speaker 4: doing in your life. When we see one another, we
Speaker 4: greet each other a certain type of way. You're not
Speaker 4: going to like, come out, You're not going to come
Speaker 4: out a.
Speaker 5: Guy, hold on, And what type of way is that?
Speaker 5: It's different than anybody else, right.
Speaker 3: You say, hey, I come in. I kind of couple you.
Speaker 4: We greet each other very differently than everybody else. But
Speaker 4: everybody else to us, aren't us. I mean that's I
Speaker 4: if that, if I'm letting the fan base and people
Speaker 4: in on a secret, I'm sorry to do that. It's
Speaker 4: not that we think any less of you. It's just
Speaker 4: that we don't think of you the same way we
Speaker 4: think of one another.
Speaker 3: That's all. That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 5: Sorry you if you could give me the difference between
Speaker 5: you and Jonas kind of seeing each other, Yeah, somewhere
Speaker 5: on the street or whatever.
Speaker 3: Then and you and I seen one another?
Speaker 4: All right. If I saw Gentinus, I'd be like, somebody,
Speaker 4: what's going on? Brah? If I saw you, I'd be like.
Speaker 3: You, what's up? Damn?
Speaker 4: How your body feel? Kids?
Speaker 6: Is good?
Speaker 4: Everything?
Speaker 6: Good? Yeah?
Speaker 8: Cool?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 4: I was good. I was gonna you know, and you
Speaker 4: always say it's good to see you, like three four
Speaker 4: times when you see somebody that played, you'd be like, man,
Speaker 4: it's good to see you, bro, man, so good to
Speaker 4: see you.
Speaker 2: I was gonna point out like a racial component, but
Speaker 2: you really buckled my knees when you went to Brady
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no real quick real quest's great Jonas, that
Speaker 4: it exceeds race.
Speaker 3: Did you see me on the street? Why do we
Speaker 3: greet each other?
Speaker 4: Say again, how would that would me on the street?
Speaker 5: Hey hey Brady, little top gun, Hey hey little up
Speaker 5: top Jonas, what's up? Hoss?
Speaker 4: That's football? That's football talk though you can't use hosts. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but that's you know, that's like maybe high school. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we're really trying hard to be a meathead. Yeah you
Speaker 4: were trying. Yeah, that is sometimes cats like you try
Speaker 4: to overcompensate because I want to be greeted that way.
Speaker 4: But it's the same thing if I see LeVar. If
Speaker 4: I see LeVar, I'd be like, so.
Speaker 3: That, you know, what's weird.
Speaker 5: Every time I see Jonas and every time we walk
Speaker 5: together from like the set during Radio rodor in Super Bowl,
Speaker 5: I always am like, Man, if I had an oil can,
Speaker 5: I would try to like just inject some oil into
Speaker 5: Jonas's joints just to make him look a little smoother.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: It's just please, it's very rigid. It's a very rigid, stiff.
Speaker 4: That's vampire joints.
Speaker 3: That's not true.
Speaker 5: There's zero there's like zero skip, zero, limps, zero anything.
Speaker 2: Because you get to where we go part. Yeah, I'm floating.
Speaker 2: All I've got in my body is blood and it
Speaker 2: ain't mine. You don't know the vampire life. You know
Speaker 2: what we go through. You know. Here's here's what's so
Speaker 2: funny about the Rogers discussion. So I'm seeing yesterday people
Speaker 2: are you know, laying in like, oh God, of course
Speaker 2: it's everybody else's fault. And he's this and that and
Speaker 2: he's pointing fingers and it's like I just want to say.
Speaker 2: We're not talking about like a high functioning, well respected
Speaker 2: history of great decisions and great moves and great we're
Speaker 2: talking about the Jets. Yes, it's plausible that the meeting
Speaker 2: happened exactly how it happened. It's not like Rogers has
Speaker 2: been known to just lie. Okay, people could put oh, well,
Speaker 2: you know the COVID stuff and all. No, you just
Speaker 2: he found a loophole in his messaging and that's why
Speaker 2: people are still bitter about it. But it's not like
Speaker 2: we're talking about oh well, this is just this is
Speaker 2: an organization that is pristine and all they know is
Speaker 2: success him saying it about them. So you're the one
Speaker 2: guy who's got a problem with the way that they
Speaker 2: handle things. There, No, we've seen this for decades. It's
Speaker 2: the same story for decades. Insert quarterback. It's a disaster,
Speaker 2: drafted signed head coach. So like, when I hear the
Speaker 2: pushback on things he's said, look, is he a little
Speaker 2: bit arrogant?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 2: Is he a little bit aloof at times? Does he
Speaker 2: want to control the messaging? Does he like the attention
Speaker 2: but claim that he does? Probably, But it still doesn't
Speaker 2: admonish the Jets from being palpable in this whole situation
Speaker 2: whatever I'm trying to say, palpable in this whole situation,
Speaker 2: that they're a disaster and they've been a disaster for years.
Speaker 2: And we've brought this point up before on our show
Speaker 2: when the first couple of moves and couple of signs
Speaker 2: are hey, we don't want any part of this. We're
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells saying no, we're good here.
Speaker 2: And that was before we had any sort of intel
Speaker 2: or information on what Woody Johnson's era with the Jets
Speaker 2: was going to be. That should have been the indicator. Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe there's something wrong here. So the pushback on Roger
Speaker 2: I don't get because it's the Jets. They've done this
Speaker 2: for decades.
Speaker 4: And they didn't even play that bad. It's to me,
Speaker 4: he's better than Justin Fields last year. He's better than
Speaker 4: Justin Fields.
Speaker 5: Can I point out for one instance, don't point out though,
Speaker 5: where I think a lot of people have dug their
Speaker 5: feet in and it's over as far as how they feel.
Speaker 5: It's the whole vaccination thing. Yes, that was such a
Speaker 5: polarizing issue that there's a lot of people who maybe
Speaker 5: they're football fans, maybe they're not. But whenever you talk
Speaker 5: about politics, religion, things like that, and obviously the whole
Speaker 5: vaccination deal it was polit a size and that's why
Speaker 5: it became so polarizing. But the way he messaged the
Speaker 5: immunized comment and how people took that and how this
Speaker 5: people drew a line in the sand back then, and
Speaker 5: they've never been willing to concede on any of that.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is like outside of a sports conversation,
Speaker 5: Like the people who believed in the people who didn't.
Speaker 3: They drew a line and they're not ever willing to
Speaker 3: cross that.
Speaker 5: Like no one's even like even right now, regardless of
Speaker 5: whatever report comes out, whatever side you were on, they're
Speaker 5: sticking to that. They're like, there's no way you're going
Speaker 5: to convince them otherwise. And unfortunately, like he put himself rightfully,
Speaker 5: so he put himself in the middle of that with
Speaker 5: how he handled that, and I think that actually might
Speaker 5: be the most polarizing thing that has still followed him
Speaker 5: to this day, outside of even how he's handled things
Speaker 5: with being so open and honest about, you know, things
Speaker 5: in Green Bay and how the drafting of Jordan Love went,
Speaker 5: or even his time with Brett Favre and everything else
Speaker 5: up there, and now with the New York Jets and
Speaker 5: everything else in his personal life that's become public, which
Speaker 5: with the documentary.
Speaker 3: So to me, as much as he is very unique.
Speaker 5: As an athlete or as a quarterback in the NFL,
Speaker 5: there's also an element of like that singular thing, to
Speaker 5: me created the biggest divide for the people who are
Speaker 5: either for Aaron Rodgers or like Aaron Rodgers or against them.
Speaker 5: And it's kind of crazy when you think about it,
Speaker 5: and people can say that's not true, but you're lying,
Speaker 5: Like I see it. To this day, there's people who
Speaker 5: still have like ruined friendships on as close with their family.
Speaker 5: There's all sorts of issues from that singular moment in
Speaker 5: time with the way people kind of drew a line
Speaker 5: in the sand, and they're not ever willing to cross
Speaker 5: it and they're not ever willing to go back on
Speaker 5: whatever happened back then.
Speaker 4: He never breaks character either though. That's I think that
Speaker 4: that really irritates a lot of people. And if I
Speaker 4: were a betting man, I would say the way Aaron
Speaker 4: Rodgers conducts himself is an irritant to people. Like a
Speaker 4: Woody Johnson, he does not break character. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 4: he answers questions, especially almost as if it's like a riddle,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like he doesn't break character.
Speaker 4: He stays in that same well you know. And and
Speaker 4: all I wanted to say was yep, I can't you
Speaker 4: could have done at this by the phone. Well you
Speaker 4: don't know me. Well you're right. And and that's why
Speaker 4: I can't like the witty comments that the comebacks. It's
Speaker 4: not it doesn't help. It doesn't help, Like show me
Speaker 4: some emotion, like I'll beat trassed, Like what oh whoa
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers said? What you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 4: it is it is funny. Yeah, we they don't break character.
Speaker 2: It is funny how we pick and choose you know who.
Speaker 2: We're still gonna punish for things that were done and
Speaker 2: said five years ago during COVID.
Speaker 4: A long time ago. Yeah. Well, Woody Johnson ain't thinking
Speaker 4: about the immunization. He's thinking about how Aaron rod tried
Speaker 4: to ruin him. He tried to ruin me. No, he's
Speaker 4: got there. You better get him.
Speaker 2: Someone say he's got a vested interest, and somebody getting
Speaker 2: I can't do it myself.
Speaker 4: You guys handle it.
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Speaker 2: They are calling out the fakes. There are frauds in
Speaker 2: the world of football. They will officially be called out
Speaker 2: and punished starting this upcoming season.
Speaker 4: We'll get into that for you here on FSR.
Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, do we have an update on
Speaker 2: the fan that was hit by a golf ball by
Speaker 2: Billy Horschel yesterday at that tournament whatever the tournament.
Speaker 4: Was, because thatth looked grotesque?
Speaker 2: Did you see that, Brady? The guy Shinn who took
Speaker 2: a golf ball while in the gallery and horn shot horse.
Speaker 5: I'm always a big fan though, I'm always a big
Speaker 5: fan of those who are sticking it out, able to
Speaker 5: kind of tough it out through it and basically providing
Speaker 5: a backboard for professional golfers just in case they sprayed
Speaker 5: a little bit outside of the fairway, there's always a
Speaker 5: nice fan in there to help bounce it right back
Speaker 5: in or at least stop it right there in the rough.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He So this guy got a golf ball straight
Speaker 2: in the shin and Horsell went over. I think he
Speaker 2: outlined it and then autographed his leg afterwards, and it
Speaker 2: is revolting. So hopefully, hopefully that that gentleman is okay
Speaker 2: and can continue on and join the tournament, you know,
Speaker 2: at the gallery there, whatever tournament that was not named
Speaker 2: the Masters. Now that being said, I want to let
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Speaker 2: number two pick in the draft. The betting odds have
Speaker 2: indicated that Travis Hunter will be the pick at number two,
Speaker 2: depending on if the Browns are picking there or not.
Speaker 2: Who knows, but that is the expectation that as far
Speaker 2: as the gambling odds go, that it could be the
Speaker 2: Browns taking Travis Hunter, and so the GM of the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns, Andrew Berry, spoke about Travis Hunter's skill set
Speaker 2: and also compared him to one of the all time
Speaker 2: great talents that we are currently watching.
Speaker 8: That number two pick is that's kind of how he's viewed.
Speaker 8: Is the guy that can do both versus just is
Speaker 8: one side of the No, I don't see it that way.
Speaker 8: I think it's and I'm going to use a crossburn now.
Speaker 8: It's a little bit like Otani right where you know,
Speaker 8: when he's playing one side, he's an outstanding player.
Speaker 6: If he's a pitcher.
Speaker 8: He's a hitter, he's an out the only player you
Speaker 8: obviously get a unicorn if you use them both ways.
Speaker 2: All right, so he's getting the comp. He hasn't played
Speaker 2: in the that's not a good yes, not a good comp.
Speaker 4: Why not? Well, because what is otan? What does Otani
Speaker 4: play when he's not being a picture?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 4: Well done? Yeah, that was more so his mean he
Speaker 4: doesn't need that's like that. That's that sneaky shot. They're like,
Speaker 4: why do you go down? How do you all? Is
Speaker 4: right there? Brady with an undercut, you know, just a
Speaker 4: little something, a little under underneath.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I'll say, is his normal position is
Speaker 5: not picture correct?
Speaker 4: Doesn't he pay like shortstop or something?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, he's a d H d H picture. You
Speaker 4: know he's not a picture all the time. Well, he's
Speaker 4: not a picture. Don't be miss miss like leading.
Speaker 2: Here's why I you know, if you want to say
Speaker 2: it's not a fair comp, first of all, because Travis
Speaker 2: Hunter hasn't done anything in the league yet, But also.
Speaker 4: Don't don't do that.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying no, I'm just saying he is that.
Speaker 2: We have no idea if it's going to work. Out,
Speaker 2: and if it's the Browns, who knows.
Speaker 4: Well, that's even more true. But Otani he's working to
Speaker 4: come back. He is hoping to pitch at some point
Speaker 4: this year, and he's a great hitter. And so these
Speaker 4: baseball players play both sides. They NBA or you know basketball,
Speaker 4: they play both sides, right, like you play offense and
Speaker 4: you play defense.
Speaker 2: We've never seen anybody be able to pitch and hit
Speaker 2: the way Otani has.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they go both ways. They do both well. No,
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that's you know what I mean, like
Speaker 4: the defense. Yeah, it's not a fire for you to
Speaker 4: do both and in football. So that's why I say
Speaker 4: it's a poor comp But I get what you're saying.
Speaker 5: You're basically saying, like, for example, if we're counting pitching
Speaker 5: his defense right in baseball, which it would be correct,
Speaker 5: it'd be like him playing pitcher and catcher like, and
Speaker 5: then Travis Hunter playing cornerback in d end right, Like,
Speaker 5: that's in essence what you're saying. I'm saying, you play
Speaker 5: both quarterback and also a wide receiver quarterback d n White, Dane,
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean that's the equivalent of show Hey, Yeah,
Speaker 5: but I would I just think that with with Travis Hunter,
Speaker 5: you're getting a unicorn. If he can play at a
Speaker 5: high level and play here here, here's the thing. Right,
Speaker 5: If you play on that cornerback and he can become
Speaker 5: an All Pro, that is phenomenal in itself.
Speaker 4: Period. If he plays receiver and can become an All Pro,
Speaker 4: that is phenomenal period. You know, some of the greatest
Speaker 4: players who have ever played this game only have like
Speaker 4: like a handful or less than a handful of first
Speaker 4: team All Pro bids. Right, So if you you're good
Speaker 4: enough to be an All Pro player and on that
Speaker 4: list at your position, that's phenomenal. Now, if you have
Speaker 4: that type of talent, are we are we adjusting our scope?
Speaker 4: Are we saying, Okay, he.
Speaker 5: Should be an All Pro corner but just be a
Speaker 5: serviceable receiver, or should he be an All Pro receiver
Speaker 5: and be a serviceable cornerback?
Speaker 4: Like what are we looking? How are we? Because again
Speaker 4: the conversation that we had the other day when we
Speaker 4: were debating, and I know you said you know his status,
Speaker 4: we looked up his stat lines or you looked up
Speaker 4: his stat lines Q and made the point because I
Speaker 4: think t mac is is a guy that is special
Speaker 4: at the receiver's position. But the point is is that
Speaker 4: if you believe that he can be an elite playmaking
Speaker 4: receiver where he goes number two overall in the draft,
Speaker 4: are you expecting him to do that at both positions
Speaker 4: or is it just one? Because I think that plays
Speaker 4: a major part in all it is. Is it both
Speaker 4: ways or is it just one and serviceable to the other.
Speaker 3: Well, here's what I'd say, is right if we look
Speaker 3: at the draft.
Speaker 5: And people always say, oh, you get a fifty percent
Speaker 5: chance of getting hit on a guy in the first round, right,
Speaker 5: people will say that, well, technically, if he plays two positions,
Speaker 5: gotta get fifty percent chance.
Speaker 3: At either one.
Speaker 5: And so I think the position versatility or flexibility is
Speaker 5: where the value comes in. Is if you think he
Speaker 5: can be like he was in college, a top wide
Speaker 5: receiver and or a top cornerback, then it increases your
Speaker 5: odds of hitting on that pick, of getting a guy
Speaker 5: that is maybe a gold jacket guy at one of
Speaker 5: those two positions. Now, if it ends up being both, great,
Speaker 5: But from just a pure odds betting standpoint, if you're
Speaker 5: a betting man and you're saying I can increase my
Speaker 5: odds of this player being an impactful players starter, pro bowler,
Speaker 5: All Pro Hall of Famer at one of two positions.
Speaker 5: It takes some pressure off of you, right, I mean,
Speaker 5: you could play him a wide receiver if things aren't
Speaker 5: going as well, put him at cornerback. Like I think,
Speaker 5: I have a hard time believing that one of those
Speaker 5: two isn't going to stick for him, at least based
Speaker 5: on what I've seen on tape. Again, I keep going
Speaker 5: back to I think his natural fit for me, and
Speaker 5: this is just more of watching him play both. And look,
Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, he's got natural instincts as far
Speaker 5: as a ball catcher, a great hand, eye coordination, suddenness,
Speaker 5: and his route running. But he's still very raw with
Speaker 5: his route running and that's something that takes time to
Speaker 5: develop whether you're Travis Hunt or any other wide receiver.
Speaker 5: But as a cornerback, he just has a feel for
Speaker 5: the game and how he sees the game and how
Speaker 5: he sees the quarterback and how that you know, and
Speaker 5: different route combinations. I just I feel like that position
Speaker 5: comes to him more naturally. And so all I'm saying is,
Speaker 5: if you could take someone who improves your chances of
Speaker 5: it being a hit. As a general manager, that goes
Speaker 5: on your resume to showcase to the owner and everyone
Speaker 5: else that.
Speaker 3: Hey, this is you know, this was a hit.
Speaker 5: This was another another hit, another one that worked out
Speaker 5: for me as a general manager. You're gonna take that guy.
Speaker 5: So I don't know which will end up playing on it.
Speaker 5: Maybe the Browns will do both, like maybe Thot'll be
Speaker 5: part of the intrigue for twenty twenty five. If this
Speaker 5: is a team that's still at the bottom of the
Speaker 5: AFC North because of the quarterback situation, at least you're
Speaker 5: selling one of those dynamic players we've ever seen, potentially
Speaker 5: in his rookie season, trying to play both ways.
Speaker 3: There's something to be said for that.
Speaker 4: If he's listed as both ways, how are you going
Speaker 4: to pay him?
Speaker 5: How do you have to worry about You don't have
Speaker 5: to worry about that for at least three more years,
Speaker 5: But how do you do you pay him for both positions?
Speaker 4: Because that's a roster he's if he is a full
Speaker 4: time receiver and he's a full down corner.
Speaker 5: Your your CBA, the draft, the rookie draft, sellar pool.
Speaker 5: So it doesn't really have anything to do with you know. Now,
Speaker 5: now we're where he'll get a bonus is his play
Speaker 5: snap percentage. So remember, because even when he's paid as
Speaker 5: a rookie, he'll get a huge bonus at the end
Speaker 5: of the year if he's playing both ways because of
Speaker 5: the amount of snaps. He's playing on both sides of
Speaker 5: the ball. So that's where he'll be able to cash
Speaker 5: in on that. And that's where the en You know,
Speaker 5: NFLP has done a good job and trying to reward
Speaker 5: guys who aren't being paid as much, and especially as rookies,
Speaker 5: but they're playing a lot, so it's at least covered
Speaker 5: a portion of that gap. And I understand what you're saying,
Speaker 5: but that's three years away. That's that's the first opportunity.
Speaker 4: That man became an All Pro on both sides of
Speaker 4: the ball as a receiver and as a corner, which
Speaker 4: we've never seen that happen ever before. How are you
Speaker 4: going to pay that man?
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, because I think it's along the
Speaker 2: lines of what you were thinking, LeVar, but i'll kind
Speaker 2: of throw it at you.
Speaker 4: Guys. If he was just a wide receiver, is he
Speaker 4: in consideration for the number two pick? No? No, If
Speaker 4: he was just there's no receiver being considered, right, So.
Speaker 2: If he was just a corner, would be would he
Speaker 2: be in consideration for the number two pick.
Speaker 5: No, that's a good way of putting cause I would
Speaker 5: say yes, though I would say yes in that regard.
Speaker 5: I say he's not a top five pick at corner.
Speaker 5: I think he's more like Will Howard.
Speaker 4: Is a Will Howard who the corner out of Mill Johnson,
Speaker 4: Will Johns Will Johnson. I say he's more like that,
Speaker 4: He's more in that that category. Then again, no, I
Speaker 4: take that back. I take I take that back. I
Speaker 4: take that back because I'm thinking about Champ Bailey or
Speaker 4: he's on the level of I mean, actually, yeah, he's
Speaker 4: on the level of a Charles Woodson more so than
Speaker 4: even a Chant Bailey. I mean he's in that category
Speaker 4: of players. So yes, yes he would. So I'll put
Speaker 4: it this way.
Speaker 5: If I think, I think he's the best corner, and
Speaker 5: I do think in a class that by the way,
Speaker 5: it's not a great wide receiver class. So between t
Speaker 5: mac luth Burden, you know, Matthew Gold's got a lot
Speaker 5: of buzz in Texas because he's so fast. You know,
Speaker 5: I don't know that you go and watch the tape
Speaker 5: and say, like, can he come in and be in
Speaker 5: meet at number one? And that's what you're usually drafting
Speaker 5: him to be. So it's kind of interesting. But I
Speaker 5: think he's one of the best, if not the best,
Speaker 5: in the wide receiver class too, So it all depends
Speaker 5: on how you view him. But I think as a
Speaker 5: cornerback without a doubt. As a wide receiver, it might
Speaker 5: be partially due to the wide receiver class though too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a top he's a top five pick. He's
Speaker 4: a top five pick at cornerback. I'm not going to
Speaker 4: go I'm not going to go that far at receiver. Cornerback.
Speaker 4: He's tough, fat pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's well, it looks like it'll be in Cleveland,
Speaker 2: So it would behoove them to try and maximize his abilities,
Speaker 2: Like if you've got that sort.
Speaker 4: Of talent, would it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: All right? Eitherwise, you know, am I losing sooner? All right?
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Speaker 4: We'll get into that for a year on FSR. I
Speaker 4: can't believe you had just.
Speaker 2: Dismissed my caring like you are ridiculous, Bro, If you
Speaker 2: could have heard what this man just said during the
Speaker 2: break you.
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't even Brady, I'll tell the royalty
Speaker 4: that he was talking about that that Travis Hunter would
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Speaker 10: Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning LeVar, Good
Speaker 10: morning Brady.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 10: In case you miss this, the NCAA is finally cracking
Speaker 10: down uh. The Playing Rules Oversight Panel has decided that
Speaker 10: they're in stating a new rule that that states that
Speaker 10: teams will be charged with a timeout if a player
Speaker 10: requires medical attention after the ball is spotted by an official.
Speaker 10: If they don't have any remaining, they will be hit
Speaker 10: with a five yard delay of game penalty.
Speaker 4: This is of course, to.
Speaker 10: Weighe off players feigning injuries at the end of games.
Speaker 2: How's this going to be determined? And they're going to
Speaker 2: just go over and like, oh, you say you're CAF hurts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're gonna they're gonna know if so.
Speaker 3: Here's the deal.
Speaker 5: If the balls marked all right, because what happens is
Speaker 5: usually in a hurry up scenario or when the team's
Speaker 5: playing up.
Speaker 3: Tempo, somebody of cramp or something some.
Speaker 5: Well, and what they'll do is, though they they move
Speaker 5: the ball on field and they get the call in
Speaker 5: from the sideline right like they're they're trying to slow
Speaker 5: down the offense. So the defense will like make a
Speaker 5: call from the sideline and that's when they'll then see
Speaker 5: a player go down.
Speaker 3: Right, That's what they're trying to eliminate.
Speaker 5: You know, most guys when they get hurt, they're probably
Speaker 5: gonna be down on the ground, you know, having an issue,
Speaker 5: or they might you know, go back down and kind
Speaker 5: of take a knee rather quickly.
Speaker 3: What they're trying to eliminate is the.
Speaker 5: Stuff where a guy you know, gets up, he's running back,
Speaker 5: looks over and everyone sees it on TV, but maybe
Speaker 5: not on the field or people are at the game.
Speaker 3: Then the guy goes down and exactly like he has
Speaker 3: an injury.
Speaker 5: So that's why they're trying to say, look, once the
Speaker 5: medical people come out, that dude's got to come off,
Speaker 5: and they're charge the timeout and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: So I like the rule, I will be curious to
Speaker 3: see how the implement it.
Speaker 2: Though the delay will be hard, but delayed reaction is uh,
Speaker 2: it's always well done.
Speaker 4: They're gonna be aware of this, the coaches is gonna
Speaker 4: be because the coaches being on this, on on this
Speaker 4: as well, just so you know, so they there's actually
Speaker 4: time where you practice these reps. They're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 4: get ahead of the rule like that. It's not it's
Speaker 4: gonna be predetermined, and predetermined has always been a part
Speaker 4: of it. Anyway. Every once in a while you get
Speaker 4: a dude that's too tired to get his fat ass
Speaker 4: up and get going again, and so he'll he'll fake
Speaker 4: the worm and hit the ground. But for the most part,
Speaker 4: if you're trying to slow it down or whatever it
Speaker 4: may be, they'll say this is a two minute like
Speaker 4: situation there, or they're in a two minute style offense, this,
Speaker 4: that and the other. They'll signal like you'll have a
Speaker 4: signal to know that somebody needs to go down, and
Speaker 4: you'll know who the designated person is. So it'll be
Speaker 4: interesting to see if the rule can can govern it.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're trying to out the validity of a
Speaker 2: Charlie horse in this day and age again, how do you.
Speaker 4: Know if it's real or not? Like it's almost like, okay,
Speaker 4: well he's got to stay out, you know, the rest
Speaker 4: of this series or something like that.
Speaker 10: In fact, the American Football Coaches Association did try to
Speaker 10: implement that that a player would have to sit out.
Speaker 4: The entire That makes that makes more sense, and that
Speaker 4: makes more sense.
Speaker 10: They say they'll come down with a supplementary discipline if once,
Speaker 10: if they review it and they figure out that it's fake,
Speaker 10: well there you go.
Speaker 4: How much you get better electrolytes? And this one happened.
Speaker 2: I blame them. I blame the training staff. They should
Speaker 2: be held accountable. Next guy that gets a cramp that
Speaker 2: they call fake, that trainer should be fined and suspended
Speaker 2: for the next two games.
Speaker 4: Tang All right, well what else is well? Guys about this?
Speaker 4: I don't have time to play it for you.
Speaker 10: But Shane Gillis talked about his time at the Masters,
Speaker 10: said he was really trying to get into it, but
Speaker 10: he couldn't see a damn thing. He replaced that I
Speaker 10: was Shane on this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I would have liked to hanging out with Shane
Speaker 4: though we could have talked about beers.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we could have.
Speaker 4: Talked about other things while we weren't seeing anything A
Speaker 4: couple of beers. Yeah, sometimes nothing to see is a
Speaker 4: good thing