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Speaker 3: What's up? Everyone?

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Speaker 2: Welcome into another episode of Instant Reaction, a special edition

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Speaker 2: of Instant Reaction here on the Colts Audio Network. I'm

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Speaker 2: JJ Stankovitz, joined by Bill Brooks, Colts Ring of Honor

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Speaker 2: wide receiver, as we break down the Colts' first round

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Speaker 2: selection in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft, Layatu Latu,

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Speaker 2: defensive end from UCLA. Bill, can you believe he the

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Speaker 2: Cults of the fifteenth pick. Layatu Latu was the first

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Speaker 2: defensive player off the board this year.

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Speaker 3: Here we're six quarterbackbacks, yes.

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Speaker 2: Taken before the Colts got on the board. This tells

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Speaker 2: me that as the Colts are going through this, they

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Speaker 2: looked at what was available and boy offense. Offense was

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Speaker 2: heavily picked over in the first fourteen picks, why not

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Speaker 2: take the best defensive player on your board, which in

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Speaker 2: this case is the defensive end from UCLA layout to

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Speaker 4: Exactly if all those offensive players are taken and there's

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Speaker 4: no defensive players taken, and you want to get an

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Speaker 4: edge rusher or someone that's going to put pressure on

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Speaker 4: the quarterback and get to the quarterbacks. Because we know,

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Speaker 4: as as we've seen in the AFC South, you know

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Speaker 4: on the quarterbacks. You have a edge rusher now that

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Speaker 4: you've got. You know, during free agency they had said

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Speaker 4: that they looked at the nail Hunter. Yes, in regardless

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Speaker 4: So now you can get edge rusher, a guy that's

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Speaker 4: that gets after the people. And you know, yes, he

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Speaker 4: did have an injury, but evidently they must feel very

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Speaker 4: So having him here and to have another guy to

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Speaker 4: and bodes well for the defense of the Indianapolis Coats.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, we all know what Chris Ballad prioritizes

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Speaker 3: It's on the defensive line.

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Speaker 2: And if you can affect the quarterback, that is how

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Speaker 2: Leya Tu Latu, the players. We're starting to get to

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Speaker 2: know this guy.

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Speaker 3: Bill.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the neck issue, the medical issue. So he

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Speaker 2: began his college career at Washington in twenty nineteen. He

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Speaker 2: And then it was like late fall twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: He entered the transfer portal. He wound up at UCLA.

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Speaker 2: His first year at UCLA, plays in all thirteen games,

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three, he appeared in all twelve of

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Speaker 4: A good football player that's not taking plays off, that's

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Speaker 4: And you know what, if he's ready to play, let

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Speaker 2: The other thing with Law two is he's such like

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Speaker 2: this like shade of deep blue that's like kind of

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Speaker 2: is the medicals. Yes, but like you said, Bill, the

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Speaker 2: Colts do extensive research on the medicals. They they turn

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Speaker 2: not just for the next you know, for twenty twenty four. No,

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Speaker 2: would assume that'll be a question he'll be asked, and I

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Speaker 4: I mean you think that they're looking at the future,

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Speaker 4: That's going to be good for the Coats defense. Someone

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Speaker 4: and not just put pressure on a quarterback, but play

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Speaker 4: and get after the quarterback. I mean, I think that's

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about why the Colts did not take

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Speaker 2: And the Colts didn't take any of those those guys

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Speaker 2: The other thing, Bill is, if you have listened to

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Speaker 2: the Colts corners, Yes, they have in the room. Do

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Speaker 2: they need to add some competition, yes, But Jalen Jones

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Speaker 2: Brent's a guy who did a lot of good things

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Speaker 2: don't know if I never viewed it necessarily as the

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Speaker 2: that is a gaping need on this team. I think

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Speaker 2: Because that's how the Colts had it grated out.

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Speaker 4: And as you stated, as you listen to Chris Ballad,

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Speaker 4: He said, yes, they were young, they made some mistakes.

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Speaker 4: you have Juju Brant as you said, if he can

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Speaker 4: Now will they probably add some competition out there? Of

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Speaker 4: course that's what they want, you know, Chris loves to

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Speaker 2: Also, let's just kind of zoom out a little bit here.

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Speaker 2: Not taking a quarterback in this situation did not lead

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Speaker 2: If you look at the picks that came after. Seattle

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Speaker 2: we gotta go up and get them. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the league looks at things, looks at

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Speaker 4: they fall way, they fall where it should be slided

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Speaker 4: not saying that they're not good. They are good players.

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Speaker 3: They are very good players.

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Speaker 4: But for right now, these teams need other positions and

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Speaker 4: the teams are going to draft those positions. It's just

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Speaker 3: So let's talk about offense. Now.

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Speaker 2: If you're sitting there at fifteen and you were hoping that,

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Speaker 2: I think that's just goes back to your needs today

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Speaker 2: Cults have a decision to make on Quidy pays fifth

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Speaker 3: To take a qu quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Minnesota everyone knew was going to take a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: No, you won, you would not have got a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That impacts then the pool of teams that are willing

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Speaker 2: there's no way we're trading back out of this pick.

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Speaker 2: But I think that just it goes back to the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: So just kind of reading through Layatu Latu's right up

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Speaker 2: Latu's medical history will play a major part in his

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Speaker 2: We've got our first round pick. We've got Layatu Latu

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Speaker 2: Depending on when you're listening to this, that could also

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Speaker 2: be today, and we'll have plenty of coverage around his

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Speaker 2: arrival to Indianapolis here on Colts dot Com, on the

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Speaker 2: Colts App, and on the Colts Audio Network. All right, Well,

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Speaker 2: for Bill Brooks, I'm Jjstankowitz. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: Talk to you next time. So long,