Speaker 1: Well, it's guys, are you still writing two on your checks?
Speaker 1: Will be until like November. I uh, last year was
Speaker 1: the fact, I think, the fastest year of my life,
Speaker 1: and I already have the feeling of like that with
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, we talked about how old we
Speaker 1: are all the time. I'm not going to do it again,
Speaker 1: but it is just truly crazy how you can be
Speaker 1: aware that time is going by really fast even while
Speaker 1: it's happening that like when it will be March of
Speaker 1: this year, we're gonna all look at each other and go,
Speaker 1: it's already March, and then in June it's already June.
Speaker 1: It's already summer, September. So the glass half full version
Speaker 1: of that, which i've also which I've realized is when
Speaker 1: something that is happening, yeah you're going through a hard period,
Speaker 1: it also moves fast, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like you know, uh, for me, like you know, my
Speaker 1: wife being gone for three months, like that went by
Speaker 1: pretty fast actually, Like I was very nervous about that happening,
Speaker 1: and then when that happened, I'm like, wait, that's already over.
Speaker 1: Anything that you're scared of or anxious about also goes
Speaker 1: by fast, and and and as you get older, things
Speaker 1: get easier too. Yeah, things, you know, just normal adults.
Speaker 1: Stuff suddenly is not that big of a deal like
Speaker 1: I remember as a kid, you know, And I see
Speaker 1: this with Indie all the time, like, yeah, he's the
Speaker 1: weeks last forever, days last forever. But that the flip
Speaker 1: side of that is, you know, school last forever. The
Speaker 1: things he doesn't like also are such a drag. I
Speaker 1: have to be in piano for thirty minutes. You're like, yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: that's nothing. I know. So I try to try and
Speaker 1: be optimistic about it. I wish I got to spend
Speaker 1: more time with Indie. I think Indie would be like
Speaker 1: my friend. Yeah he he will, he will be. You
Speaker 1: guys should spend some more time to you. Got it.
Speaker 1: Once your kids are like yeah, four plus both of them,
Speaker 1: it will be really easy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Right now, it's like they're at the awkward set of
Speaker 1: ages where they can't all just be kids in a
Speaker 1: group together. Like you clearly have a seven year old,
Speaker 1: three year old, one year old. Yes, that is not
Speaker 1: a good combo. And that's what you have to realize
Speaker 1: as a parent. Is like negotiating which couple of friends,
Speaker 1: how old their kids are and whether they you know, boys, girls,
Speaker 1: what the like calculus of kids group dynamics are going
Speaker 1: to be. It's complicated, but yeah, I think I think
Speaker 1: when you're three year old, aren't the Asn't that essentially
Speaker 1: the age difference between us? So four years yeah, but
Speaker 1: us at being you know, twelve and sixteen felt like
Speaker 1: practically nothing. You guys were able to be really good friends.
Speaker 1: But yeah, now now it is, it is definitely more.
Speaker 1: You know, we say that, but I don't think Will
Speaker 1: and I. I looked up to Will, Like I thought
Speaker 1: Will was the coolest person I've ever met, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to be share him. I wanted to beat him.
Speaker 1: But we didn't hang out all that much until the
Speaker 1: later season, right, like I would say, like we became
Speaker 1: best best friends in real life the last two years
Speaker 1: of Boy before I mean before then, you were because
Speaker 1: you were older, you could go out with like Jason Marsden,
Speaker 1: driving your cards. And I was still like when we
Speaker 1: went to Amsterdam, I was sixteen, so there you go.
Speaker 1: So that's when we like solidified her from yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I was sixteen and that was let's go to Amsterdam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's I love thinking of Will is the responsible adult, Like,
Speaker 1: how scary is that? My god? I was way more
Speaker 1: of responsible. Responsible was the responsible one on that trip.
Speaker 1: He went to Amsterdam and didn't come home. He fell
Speaker 1: into an Amsterdam pole. I helped find him his apartment.
Speaker 1: I found the apartment for him. My gosh. It was
Speaker 1: the only thing that he did that was more responsible.
Speaker 1: He got a hotel room. I was one. He was like,
Speaker 1: show up at Amy now I'm sixty and I'll find
Speaker 1: a place to stay. Oh my gosh. I went to
Speaker 1: a hostel. I like, just I wanted to do like
Speaker 1: the Europe. It was like totally like you know whatever,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to meet people. And of course when
Speaker 1: you're staying in a hostel, you have to sleep in
Speaker 1: a room with like six other dudes, and people make
Speaker 1: noises and it was awful and so crashing on your path.
Speaker 1: I remember I was mocking Will for like, you know,
Speaker 1: had this nice hotel room. But I remember flying and
Speaker 1: I was like, why do you hotel room? Like you're
Speaker 1: so such a yuppie. And then I like two days later,
Speaker 1: I was like can I can I can I stay
Speaker 1: in your room? Cool? You got two beds, and he
Speaker 1: was like, fine, you remember that I totally made fun
Speaker 1: of you. You weren't phazed by it at all. Like
Speaker 1: I mocked you to your face, and I remember you
Speaker 1: just be like, no, no, no, I like my nice
Speaker 1: hotel room and I want to be comfortable and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna eat McDonald's and You're not gonna make fun of me.
Speaker 1: It was great. Oh man, what a wonderful city. That
Speaker 1: was a fun trip. That was a fun trip all
Speaker 1: the way around you. I was super heartbroken, but it
Speaker 1: was from you were super You're on the same paper
Speaker 1: that's still there, the phone is still there, on the
Speaker 1: same really want to talk about your heartbreak at all.
Speaker 1: I had just been dumped over the phone and I
Speaker 1: was so I had been so in love, you know.
Speaker 1: It was just a classic writer and so yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like going to Amsterdam to like be with my
Speaker 1: guy friend and get over her. And then I was
Speaker 1: just so sad and I and I just Will is
Speaker 1: such a good friend that we had. We finally had
Speaker 1: the moment where we were also playing magic, the gathering
Speaker 1: all the time, This is great and I'm we're we
Speaker 1: just were somewhere. I think we had a cafe having
Speaker 1: a conversation and I was talking about my broken heart
Speaker 1: and my feelings and you were just like you know what, man,
Speaker 1: you really like what what's the deal? Like you miss her?
Speaker 1: You want her back? I was like yeah, I really do.
Speaker 1: And you're like, well, then go get her. Go get her, dude,
Speaker 1: go like call her right now, figure it out, like
Speaker 1: make And I was like you really think you know?
Speaker 1: You were like yeah, like if you feel this way,
Speaker 1: you have to like go for it, like stop just wallowing,
Speaker 1: stop just sitting here crying, like and you know, so
Speaker 1: I had to figure out the timing with the hours
Speaker 1: calling from Amsterdam ended up being like eleven o'clock at
Speaker 1: night or whatever, and I could finally call. I go
Speaker 1: to this pay phone. I wrote notes like what I
Speaker 1: was to say, and I made the move. It was
Speaker 1: like I remember just like on this phone for like
Speaker 1: you know, long distance call, got her on the phone,
Speaker 1: pled my case and nope, oh my god work. She
Speaker 1: was just like no, no, you know I remember her
Speaker 1: crying and being like I appreciate it, but no, it's
Speaker 1: definitely over and um and I felt better, like it
Speaker 1: was the best because I was like right like I
Speaker 1: had been sort of wallowing and this self pity and
Speaker 1: like the self loathing and and is it really over?
Speaker 1: Is it? And then you did I do something? You know?
Speaker 1: And Will was just like, hey, if you want this,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to go for it. And and
Speaker 1: I remember coming back to the hotel room like a
Speaker 1: cried of course on the street by myself an Amsterdam,
Speaker 1: and then like coming back to the hotel room and
Speaker 1: like being kind of proud, you know, it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I did what you said. I made the move.
Speaker 1: She doesn't want to be in a relationship. And I
Speaker 1: was like, and I feel better. I was able to
Speaker 1: do your can I say there is nothing better for
Speaker 1: heartbreak than travel, getting yourself out of your physical environment.
Speaker 1: You have a totally different perception on your life, on
Speaker 1: the situation, on the relationship. You're out of your comfort zone.
Speaker 1: You have that like that you give yourself that gift
Speaker 1: of truly being able to have longer, deeper conversations with
Speaker 1: people you care about about the and you yeah, you
Speaker 1: you have you have courage you probably wouldn't have had
Speaker 1: at home, writer, like, part of what gave you that
Speaker 1: courage was that you were so far away and is
Speaker 1: going to be a pay phone, and there was this
Speaker 1: idea that it could work out in this romantic movie way,
Speaker 1: and and you were like, I'm doing it, and then,
Speaker 1: like you said, you felt better. I highly recommend for
Speaker 1: anybody who's able to, if you have just been, if
Speaker 1: you've just gone through any sort of heartbreak, get yourself
Speaker 1: out of your immediate environment, even if it's not terribly far.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna step further. I just say travel is good
Speaker 1: for every Like, just travel, like whatever you're going through,
Speaker 1: Like it's cool. Like I would totally live on the
Speaker 1: road my entire life if I go to I mean,
Speaker 1: I try and travel all the time, and I just
Speaker 1: love moving. I love being in new cities, I love
Speaker 1: new experiences like I would just totally. I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: like standup comedians and musicians always complain about being on
Speaker 1: the road. I'm sure that there's a point of like
Speaker 1: where it just becomes miserable, but like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I miss those being a teenager or like basically from
Speaker 1: the age of sixteen to twenty five, I traveled the world,
Speaker 1: Like I never stayed home more than like three weeks
Speaker 1: at a time, Like I traveled constantly, and I missed
Speaker 1: those years like I missed that ability to do no
Speaker 1: travel is travel is very restorative. That the hashbars helped.
Speaker 1: Those are those are also helpful for although you didn't partake,
Speaker 1: you didn't partake at all. I did drink alcohol. I
Speaker 1: remember having beers like Heineken, and and being excited, of
Speaker 1: course to have a beer in a movie theater like
Speaker 1: they say that was I think was the trip where
Speaker 1: I got strip searched. When I came back to L
Speaker 1: a X. And as I'm sitting there in the airport
Speaker 1: in my underwear, the guy went, are you on Boy
Speaker 1: Meets World? And I went, yep, sure am, best time
Speaker 1: on the glove. That's great, that's what he was doing.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I didn't bring anything back, so
Speaker 1: I swear I didn't. But yeah, well, welcome to Pod
Speaker 1: Meets World. I'm Daniel fishel Or Strong. I'm Wilfredell. So
Speaker 1: today we are recapping season two, episode two, pairing Off,
Speaker 1: which originally aired September. And do you guys what, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Will's already in his head and I'm kind
Speaker 1: of with him, even though I'm not sure what he's
Speaker 1: gonna say. It's weird, it feels weird. I'm not ready.
Speaker 1: It's a completely different television show that this one was
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all about sex. It was so weird.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not that it's bad. It's just I'm
Speaker 1: watching a completely different television so uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable because
Speaker 1: of this episode of Boy Meets the World. I don't
Speaker 1: have to have to talk with my son. You watched
Speaker 1: it with INDI, Yes, of course, of course. I'm like, Mandy,
Speaker 1: we've got to watch a Boy's World episode for the show.
Speaker 1: Let's watch it. And then it was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, and we're planning to have the talk soon,
Speaker 1: like we're at the age like this is the time.
Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, I guess, I guess Boy's
Speaker 1: World just did it for me. And I just realized,
Speaker 1: like a weird and older show. Like when I had
Speaker 1: the idea of like sitting down with my seven year
Speaker 1: old to watch Boy Meets World, that seems like a
Speaker 1: good idea when I was, you know, first season, but
Speaker 1: like we aged up quick, yeah, and that very quick.
Speaker 1: I everybody was sitting there going, oh, this whole episode
Speaker 1: is just about you know, it's called pairing off. It's
Speaker 1: like just not hooking up. And everyone's making out. It's
Speaker 1: a lot. It was a lot. I agree, it was
Speaker 1: a lot. It was just it was uncomfortable too, and
Speaker 1: also made me very very uncomfortable. I miss the warm
Speaker 1: blanket of season one. Right. Well, it's you know this
Speaker 1: is it's so crazy because this is just the difference
Speaker 1: between ABC and Disney Channel, right like, if this were
Speaker 1: a Disney Channel show, this episode could not exist. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, and and and back then in ABC, like
Speaker 1: this was that gray area. And I guess we stayed
Speaker 1: this way for the rest of our show. I have
Speaker 1: a question for you. Do you think, with the way
Speaker 1: that the world is now, do you think if it
Speaker 1: was ABC now, you could even do this episode. I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't know. We talked. It feels
Speaker 1: like we've gotten more conservative in some ways. Like if
Speaker 1: I think if you're inviting children to the to a
Speaker 1: television show because of the fragmentation, because we're not in
Speaker 1: a monoculture like you, you assume that it's just for
Speaker 1: kids or for kids with and then hopefully their adults
Speaker 1: would be the parents would somewhat be entertained. But back
Speaker 1: then you had you had to it was such a
Speaker 1: big tent. You were trying to get everybody in the
Speaker 1: family entertained, so you would take more risks and be
Speaker 1: more sort of adolescent in the middle ground, or like
Speaker 1: have way more like twenty something jokes or forty something
Speaker 1: jokes and old people jokes, like you know, we were
Speaker 1: making fun of you know, Abraham Lincoln assassination jokes. But
Speaker 1: maybe that was because Grandpa might be there. Right. Our
Speaker 1: show is trying to appeal to every demographic because that's
Speaker 1: what network television had to do. Nowadays, you don't have
Speaker 1: to appeal to you can just appeal to your very
Speaker 1: very narrow audience. Yeah, so I don't think it would existing.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe networks are still trying to do this,
Speaker 1: but I don't think. I don't know. I also thought,
Speaker 1: just to your point, too soon with the Abrahama, just
Speaker 1: too soon to come on inappropriate. Well, the synopsis of
Speaker 1: this episode is that Corey demands a little tutoring in
Speaker 1: the subject of love after he catches Eric and his
Speaker 1: girlfriend together in his parents bedroom, which everybody had already
Speaker 1: emailed us about. Yeah, so there is an upstairs. I
Speaker 1: was like, there's an upstairs, there's upstairs. Yeah, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have something to talk about with the hallway when we
Speaker 1: get to it. This episode was directed by David Trainer.
Speaker 1: It was written by Glenn Merzer, who was a new
Speaker 1: writer for season two. He came from Blossom. I remember
Speaker 1: the name, and I think if I saw his face,
Speaker 1: I would probably remember him. He remember dark haired guy.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, I remember that we had a
Speaker 1: writer named Glenn. I think he was there for more
Speaker 1: than one season. I think so too. I believe so too. Yeah. Well, um.
Speaker 1: This episode has as guest starring Nancy Valen as Miss Kelly.
Speaker 1: Played some. She played Samantha on Baywatch starting two years later,
Speaker 1: but was also in movies like The Heavenly Kid and
Speaker 1: Lover Boy. We have Jessica Wesson as Wendy Jansen. She
Speaker 1: did two Boy Meets World episodes, and I who the
Speaker 1: person who never remember vers anything about the show in
Speaker 1: the middle of the episode said her character's name is
Speaker 1: either Wendy or her real name is Wendy. But I
Speaker 1: knew Wendy the minute I saw her. Well, she comes back.
Speaker 1: She's in more because she's the reason we have the
Speaker 1: old Man episode, which I don't know what the old
Speaker 1: Man episode is. You might not have been but she
Speaker 1: ends up being Corey's girlfriend for a whole another episode.
Speaker 1: Plus I worked with her on Home Improvement, I believe.
Speaker 1: So I already worked with her on my one episode
Speaker 1: of Home Improvement because she was Zachary type Bryant's girlfriend. Okay,
Speaker 1: she she was responsible for. She's in one of my
Speaker 1: favorite Ben moments of the and it's a moment I
Speaker 1: absolutely remember in around the Table with Alan in an
Speaker 1: upcoming in her next episode where Ben is just yeah,
Speaker 1: where Ben is so funny in one of his reads
Speaker 1: that I still when I think about it, it can
Speaker 1: make me laugh out loud. He's great, so we'll wait
Speaker 1: till we get to it, but it's so funny. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then there's Marguerite Murrow returning as Rebecca, and Molly
Speaker 1: Morgan is Jacqueline. Hillary Tuck is Samantha Hillary. For a
Speaker 1: long time Hillary, I was like, oh, Hillary was in
Speaker 1: this episode. We did we know her before this or
Speaker 1: was it after this? I think she must have been
Speaker 1: part of the Young Actor space and we knew her before.
Speaker 1: I bet when we from Young Actor. She did the
Speaker 1: play that my brother and I produced that we remember,
Speaker 1: we did a play um where we did it was
Speaker 1: a night of one acts. My brother written a play
Speaker 1: and then we did a great play called Women and Wallace,
Speaker 1: so that we did a two act evening and I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure Hillary was in it. She stayed in our
Speaker 1: lives for a while. I've lost touch with her since,
Speaker 1: but like she was around. Yeah, was that the play
Speaker 1: about magic? That was the play about magic? The gathering? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did gathering on stage, That's right. But I saw
Speaker 1: her and I was like this Hillary, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she must have a bigger part. And she never never
Speaker 1: I heard the same thing. Maybe she comes back to uh.
Speaker 1: And then Hunter Garner is Peter who I remembered Hunter
Speaker 1: very well. I also remembered his name. I have a
Speaker 1: full photo shoot of pictures with Hunter. I don't know
Speaker 1: if we hung out one day after work or something.
Speaker 1: We apparently went to dinner together, and my mom took
Speaker 1: a whole series of photographs of us together. I have
Speaker 1: as Gartner, no, but we It's possible we had a
Speaker 1: crush on each other. But we went to dinner and
Speaker 1: we have a bunch of pictures together. So I have, like,
Speaker 1: you know, seventeen photos with Hunter. Can you see through
Speaker 1: the pictures where you had dinner. I'm just curious. Oh man, no,
Speaker 1: you know what I think it was? Hamburger Hamlet. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's a great hamlet. It's one of my favorite hamlets.
Speaker 1: It's a great hamlet. That's absolutely one of my favorite hamlets. Ever,
Speaker 1: if I'm honest and shady, Melon Hamlet is a terrible hamlet.
Speaker 1: It's rotten. Hi, Christy, Hey, well I have some unbelievable news.
Speaker 1: Oh there's a Kim Possible ron Stoppable reunion in the works. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: that would be great. But no, I have other big news.
Speaker 1: We just launched the Super Awesome Contest to become the
Speaker 1: next Big Voice Actor. That's right. We want to give
Speaker 1: an at your voice actor and opportunity to win a
Speaker 1: one year contract with my voice over agency c s D.
Speaker 1: They are amazing. I've been with them for over twenty
Speaker 1: years and that's not all. A trip to l A
Speaker 1: to meet Will and myself and some amazing prizes as well. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: how do people enter the Super Awesome Contest to become
Speaker 1: the next Big Voice Actor? Christie? Send a two minute
Speaker 1: or less video or audio file showcasing your best voices. Okay,
Speaker 1: well it's time do your announcer voice for the rest
Speaker 1: oh yes, no purchase necessary. Submit your entry it I
Speaker 1: Hear Voices at I heart radio dot com between January
Speaker 1: nine and February nine. Entries will be judged. The contest
Speaker 1: is open to legal residents of the United States who
Speaker 1: are eighteen and older. Official rules can be found by
Speaker 1: going to our Instagram page and I Hear Voices podcast
Speaker 1: for complete details. Listen to I Hear Voices on the
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts
Speaker 1: to jump into our recap. We are in the school hallway.
Speaker 1: Corey and Sean are watching two students make out. Are
Speaker 1: these just background actors? Poor background actors probably had met
Speaker 1: thirty seconds before, and we're told here's a tic tech.
Speaker 1: It almost feels illegal to do that. I'm they were
Speaker 1: over eighteen. They would definitely have been over eighteen. I
Speaker 1: mean everyone looks older in this episode, but our background extra,
Speaker 1: like our background actors besides the one in the classrooms
Speaker 1: would have all been over eighteen. So I know, it's
Speaker 1: it's bizarre. I'm starting to recognize most of the background
Speaker 1: actors now again, Like there's several in the background where
Speaker 1: I'm going like, oh man, I remember, remember, I remember,
Speaker 1: like conversations are hanging out together. Yeah, they're not just
Speaker 1: kissing either, They're like going at it, I know, and
Speaker 1: you two are just watching. Yeah, it goes on for
Speaker 1: so long. It does, and it's a woo from the audience.
Speaker 1: Two people's lips touch. Also, writer, I feel like a
Speaker 1: whole summer passed between season one and season two. Even
Speaker 1: with the way you look you're used episode one episode, Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. I felt the same way. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I actually look older. I feel more comfortable, alliance. Something
Speaker 1: about that first episode really threw me for a loop.
Speaker 1: And watching it now are watching this the second episode, Now,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, now I feel like stable in some way.
Speaker 1: Something was off in that first episode, as like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's something about you that's so much more mature in
Speaker 1: this second episode of the season that I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: what is what is going on? And then I'll say
Speaker 1: the same thing for myself. When I saw myself, I
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, I look so much older. So we
Speaker 1: talked about how uncomfortable we were with that first episode.
Speaker 1: I think that's maybe all we're feeling. It's just that
Speaker 1: that first episode was all about our bodies and our looks.
Speaker 1: And being insecure, and we internalized that and by this
Speaker 1: episode we felt we did more comfortable. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: think we're relaxed. It's cool. So Mr Finie walks up
Speaker 1: and asks if the boys have classes to attend, but
Speaker 1: Corey asks if they should break up the couple who's
Speaker 1: making out, and Phoenie says they're A minus students and
Speaker 1: had they've been happily struck by Cupid. No need to
Speaker 1: interrupt them, And Corey says that by the end of
Speaker 1: the year he plans to have an A plus average
Speaker 1: and a Hickey, And then we get woos from the audience.
Speaker 1: Of course, So I let me ask you something I
Speaker 1: really don't know. If you're in high school, all right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it's high school. Do they let you make
Speaker 1: out in the hallways? Is that something like a teacher?
Speaker 1: Did the teachers allow kids just make They did in
Speaker 1: our high school, but it was high school high school,
Speaker 1: it was ninth through twelve. Because there was always this
Speaker 1: one couple that it was just always against the was
Speaker 1: it like a show, always against the lockers, always making out.
Speaker 1: Just it's weird to me, as an adult responsible for
Speaker 1: children during the school hours that I would be like, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't know. It just never occurred
Speaker 1: to me until this scene. I was like, wouldn't Phoenie
Speaker 1: have a responsibility to say, hey, guys, save it for
Speaker 1: over school but you know, or just I don't know.
Speaker 1: But then I guess would they care? But then he
Speaker 1: addresses it, I mean, doesn't Corey ask him like is
Speaker 1: this is this? OK? Mean it Once the question came up,
Speaker 1: I was like, that is like if I was a
Speaker 1: teacher in high school, and I guess maybe we'll just
Speaker 1: throw this to our our listeners, send us an email
Speaker 1: like if you're a teacher, do you break up sticking
Speaker 1: out or do you just let them be teenagers and
Speaker 1: assume that that's going to happen. So it's not your purview.
Speaker 1: I'm really curious. I don't understand as a parent of
Speaker 1: a seven year old, you know, like I'm not in
Speaker 1: the space yet where I'm dealing with Like I'm assuming
Speaker 1: it was a teenager in my own house. It's like, fine,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Weird, Yeah, it was very strange.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure either. Uh. Corey sees another kissing couple
Speaker 1: and says he wants a girl who's like a friend,
Speaker 1: but not a girl friend. He says he wants someone
Speaker 1: he knows and who knows him. And then two Panga
Speaker 1: walks down the hall and Corey starts to turn his
Speaker 1: game on and uh, Corey says that since people are
Speaker 1: pairing off, they should walk through life together. And I
Speaker 1: had yet another just tragic performance where I am I
Speaker 1: just reading words on a page and maybe I'm nervous.
Speaker 1: I was struck by how confident you were, and I
Speaker 1: liked it. I appreciate it because I guess at this
Speaker 1: point we've we've already lost all to Panga's hippiness that
Speaker 1: what we're making, any jokes about karma, star signs or anything.
Speaker 1: So they've just completely dropped it, which I didn't realize
Speaker 1: happened this quickly. Yeah I didn't. But we've kept to
Speaker 1: Panga's intelligence and strength and self confidence, which is really cool, right,
Speaker 1: But as an actor, it seems a bit like they
Speaker 1: left Danielle twisting in the wind because it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know that thing that you are, your character was
Speaker 1: kind of known for, We're going to take that away
Speaker 1: and not really discuss it with you. Now, go be
Speaker 1: to Panga and it's like, Okay, like, so, so it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where I, to me, I didn't
Speaker 1: I didn't think you came off as uncomfortable at all.
Speaker 1: I frankly think you're finding topango because it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like the writers are. Yeah, certainly because because the topanga
Speaker 1: I had learned to rely on is now gone. But
Speaker 1: the confidence, like to writer's point, because you're right, that
Speaker 1: is a good that is a good point that the
Speaker 1: topanga I had learned to develop over an entire season,
Speaker 1: or that you were going to be fired if you
Speaker 1: did not develop this this character. You're right, like, how
Speaker 1: dare You've got to change how you speak, You've got
Speaker 1: to change how you do and then it's like, we're
Speaker 1: not going to do that anymore. Yeah, And so to me,
Speaker 1: that's kind of I don't know. I saw that as
Speaker 1: you trying to then be like, all right, then I
Speaker 1: gotta take this on my shoulders and I'll create the
Speaker 1: character if you're not going to do that. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: I did love the confidence that she had when he
Speaker 1: says can I call you sweetheart? And she says no. Um,
Speaker 1: But I thought there's such an opportunity and maybe I
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't. Maybe it wasn't to Penga, But there
Speaker 1: was such an opportunity had I been a better actor,
Speaker 1: for me to have had so much more fun with
Speaker 1: well you see butt head, may I call you butt head?
Speaker 1: There was there was There were those moments that are
Speaker 1: real laughs and are really funny where you get to
Speaker 1: see two panga uh turn it on to play back
Speaker 1: to the person she's talking to like that. That could
Speaker 1: have been so much funnier if I was a better comedian,
Speaker 1: if I was a better actor, if I were we're
Speaker 1: not playing that. We don't, none of us yet, right
Speaker 1: or you're the closest, honestly, and I found that in
Speaker 1: this episode, especially with some of the things you end
Speaker 1: and we'll get to it, but you're the closest at
Speaker 1: this point of hearing the comedy music and playing to it.
Speaker 1: What the D You're already a no, no, I'm find
Speaker 1: you talk about I thank you. I think like especially
Speaker 1: when the next scene where I'm flirting with the older Jos,
Speaker 1: I'm finding rhythms and I'm I'm playing to the rhythm. Yes, definitely,
Speaker 1: but you nailed that in season one, Like that's what
Speaker 1: I think we were still playing what was on what
Speaker 1: I think what Danielle saying is I think we're still
Speaker 1: playing the joke on the page as opposed to seeing
Speaker 1: the joke on the page and making it our own,
Speaker 1: which which we do towards the end, Like all of
Speaker 1: us by the end are oh, I see the way
Speaker 1: that you know, you're playing kind of offbeat as opposed
Speaker 1: to playing just you know, like daniel said, like butt head.
Speaker 1: May I call you butt head because that's how it
Speaker 1: was written. So that's what we're doing, and and we're
Speaker 1: also yes, exactly exactly, but it is so yeah you do.
Speaker 1: And when and when you start to then hear the rhythm,
Speaker 1: you look back at before you could play the instrument
Speaker 1: and you go like, oh man, I was missing so
Speaker 1: many notes because yeah, yeah, so yeah, I know exactly
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Same I felt the same one
Speaker 1: with me. Uh so uh. Corey says since people are
Speaker 1: pairing off, they should walk through life together, and she
Speaker 1: says she can't walk through life with Corey because well
Speaker 1: there's everybody else. She's very funny. But this is also
Speaker 1: we have to point out in the timeline of Corey
Speaker 1: and t Peanga, he does ask her out. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: asked with her. I mean I thought that was It
Speaker 1: was like, they never referenced this again, It's no, we
Speaker 1: didn't do this, and then they we do a whole
Speaker 1: episode where he can't ask her out first, so Sean
Speaker 1: asked to ask her. It's like he did. He walked
Speaker 1: up and said, hey, let's be together forever. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I was like, that's where it happened. There was great Yeah.
Speaker 1: Season two, episode two, and then to Benga says that
Speaker 1: the problem is that they could have a lifelong friendship,
Speaker 1: but what people do is they end up throwing it
Speaker 1: away for one week of passion and then they lose
Speaker 1: the lifetime of friendship. So she is sure that there
Speaker 1: is somebody out there for Corey, and Corey demands to
Speaker 1: know who that person is as Topanga walks away, which
Speaker 1: is super interesting that they kept kept a Panga around,
Speaker 1: kept you around, Danielle, but then did not write this
Speaker 1: episode to the relationship. They wrote this episode to the friendship,
Speaker 1: which is really cool, Like you know, it's it's a
Speaker 1: long play, you know what I mean, Like you could
Speaker 1: have easily been the Wendy that you could have easily
Speaker 1: been the Wendy in the storyline, but they were already
Speaker 1: thinking no to Panga is more important than that Topanga
Speaker 1: is going to be a more you know somebody that
Speaker 1: there's going to be an on and off again relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this Sam and Diane, And that's so smart, so smart.
Speaker 1: I think they wanted to Panga and Corey to be
Speaker 1: a will they or won't they already? And I didn't
Speaker 1: remember this episode at all that your storyline, And for
Speaker 1: some reason, I thought to Pango was the one that
Speaker 1: said hi, was the one who finally said hi, Like
Speaker 1: I forgot all about I was like, oh, I think
Speaker 1: I think she's the one. Eventually in the hallway he's
Speaker 1: like hi to Pang and she's like, oh hi, And
Speaker 1: she's the first one. So I had totally forgotten that
Speaker 1: they were. And I think you're right. They are playing
Speaker 1: the long game, which is smart. Yeah, it does make
Speaker 1: it much more interesting. Um. I do remember as a
Speaker 1: kid feeling a little threatened though, like feeling like and
Speaker 1: and feeling like, wait, so are we not gonna because
Speaker 1: the way the season one ended it seemed very much
Speaker 1: like I was going what happened to my job security? Here? Now?
Speaker 1: Now you're going to bear them up with Wendy and
Speaker 1: and what am I so I do remember having that
Speaker 1: feeling of like oh, as opposed to really, what the
Speaker 1: truth is is, oh, I have way more job security
Speaker 1: now because at any point in time, you break up
Speaker 1: with the girlfriend and the girlfriend goes away. But this
Speaker 1: we're going to be friends. But I do remember thinking, like,
Speaker 1: what's going to happen? I thought I thought I was.
Speaker 1: I thought, don't be too comfortable, kid, keep you made
Speaker 1: it this far. Be lucky, be happy. So now we're
Speaker 1: in a classroom we've never seen before, which again was
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable for me. The desks are all split out
Speaker 1: in like a weird half circle. It feels like a
Speaker 1: boiler room. I wasn't sure. I don't remember. You know
Speaker 1: what's funny too, And this is weird thing to talk about.
Speaker 1: But like I think about these sets and I remember
Speaker 1: where they were on the stage, and I don't remember
Speaker 1: where this one was on the stage. So it really
Speaker 1: hurts my brain. It's like it hurts my brain, whereas
Speaker 1: all the other ones, Like I know where the hallway
Speaker 1: set was, I know the living room was in relation
Speaker 1: basically to the audience. I know like where everything was
Speaker 1: laid out, because they're all next to each other, like
Speaker 1: maybe people don't realize that it's the living room is
Speaker 1: right obviously next to the phoenies phoenies back the k
Speaker 1: in the backyard. But then right next to that would
Speaker 1: be the class classroom. And then and then the boys
Speaker 1: know the boys bedroom, Yes, all the way at the
Speaker 1: end the right yes. So where was the hallway? The
Speaker 1: hallway was there on the right hand side, so it
Speaker 1: would go it would go hallway in this in this season,
Speaker 1: it would have been Turner's classroom hallway. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: although even use the wait a minute, was the boy's
Speaker 1: bedroom on the same side as the audience, opposite the hallway,
Speaker 1: and that was probably where this classroom was. That you
Speaker 1: spring a cafeteria for a season, And that's why we
Speaker 1: didn't usually shoot those in front of the audience, because
Speaker 1: it wasn't in front of the audience. I'll draw diagram,
Speaker 1: guys like great, yeah, yeah, I got a PhD and
Speaker 1: CAD so I've learned how to which means I'll just
Speaker 1: say I'll draw a diagram and then one of our
Speaker 1: lovely fans will do it in nice thank you, thank you. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the health teacher is outsick and they get a
Speaker 1: hubba hubba beautiful female substitute teacher Ms Kelly, who comes
Speaker 1: on she has to teach sex, Like the one sex
Speaker 1: educational day is the day where that the substitute is out,
Speaker 1: Like they wouldn't change the syllabus because the actual health
Speaker 1: teacher is not there in the substitute now has to
Speaker 1: give the talk about sex. Really, I get it, but
Speaker 1: come on, come on. I mean Alex was watching with
Speaker 1: me in India or she was kind of going in
Speaker 1: and out while she was cooking, and she walked in.
Speaker 1: She was like, that's weird. Are you getting on the teacher? Like,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that I was hitting the teacher, it was
Speaker 1: that the audience like that the teacher was made into it. Yes,
Speaker 1: right from the moment she walks in. Yeah, And it
Speaker 1: was just like I think once the flirting started, it
Speaker 1: almost felt better because it was like, oh, he's such
Speaker 1: a pathetic boy. But the fact that the camera lingered
Speaker 1: on her, and that's where I think that's what made
Speaker 1: her uncomfortable, and that's what made me like, ah, right,
Speaker 1: Like the show itself, the point of view of the
Speaker 1: show is lingering in a way that made me like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're definitely there's a difference between there's a difference between
Speaker 1: character perspective. This is a female teacher who was attractive,
Speaker 1: and therefore these young boys can't. They're stumbling over themselves
Speaker 1: and becoming idiots, as opposed to well, of course, look
Speaker 1: at the outfit she's wearing, and look how attractive she
Speaker 1: There's a there's a there was a feeling of well,
Speaker 1: anyone would this. It wasn't about you being teen boys.
Speaker 1: It was about well, this is how people would react.
Speaker 1: It's about the show being team boys. Like it's like
Speaker 1: the perspective of the show is a horny eleven year
Speaker 1: old boy. Yeah right, well right, like like boobies. Oh,
Speaker 1: I get to see it, but like the teacher is pretty,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like, yeah, it's funny. That's exactly
Speaker 1: what I was thinking. I was like, once I started
Speaker 1: talking to her, it felt okay, but this first moment
Speaker 1: felt weird to me. And then well again, they also
Speaker 1: would never have done there's very few people that wouldn't
Speaker 1: say Tony Quinn was a really good looking man. They
Speaker 1: didn't do Tony walks into the classroom and all the
Speaker 1: girls can't stop looking at him, and they focus on
Speaker 1: his but that never the show is exactly just would
Speaker 1: never have had the easily could have done to Panga
Speaker 1: and all the girls in the class, like wow, look
Speaker 1: at our new teacher, but never even thought of that happening.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that whole thing. But on a different note,
Speaker 1: you're flirting with her when you say I'm a cop.
Speaker 1: I lost. It's like, I don't remember this at all,
Speaker 1: all of it, all of it. It's a good thing.
Speaker 1: I like Sean rain like kind of you know, flailing
Speaker 1: in this way. It's fun, but it's fun to see ye.
Speaker 1: So miss Kelly asks what organ stores the eggs, and
Speaker 1: Seawan says he can only remember the name of the
Speaker 1: stuff he has, or at least what he calls them.
Speaker 1: Were very funny, And then Corey answers, it's the gonads,
Speaker 1: but it's really the ovaries, and Corey also messes up
Speaker 1: the way reproduction in the life cycle occurs. Corey then
Speaker 1: calls over the teacher privately and asks how do you
Speaker 1: get a girl to say hi? Which becomes like the
Speaker 1: the entire point of this episode. And then we're in
Speaker 1: the school hallway. Corey sees another couple walking down the
Speaker 1: hall and wonders how these people are connecting, and he
Speaker 1: mentioned that the new couple's names are Lisa Marie and Michael,
Speaker 1: which is a call to what was a very timely
Speaker 1: couple at the time, Lisa Marie Presley and Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: Now my question, um, Danielle, the first couples it was
Speaker 1: Richard and Cody. Was that anything from the time? Was
Speaker 1: every was every couple supposed to mean something like Lisa
Speaker 1: Marie and Michael was the obvious one. But I couldn't
Speaker 1: remember if there was like a Richard and Cody, that
Speaker 1: Richard and Cindy it was Richard and Cindy. If that
Speaker 1: was something that mattered, Was Richard Gear dating Cindy Crawford.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's like it popped in my Gear
Speaker 1: and Cindy Crawford. So I think you're right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they all meant something. Yeah, Oh, that's funny. So
Speaker 1: Mr Turner walks down the hall and he's very flirty
Speaker 1: with the substitute, Miss Kelly, and so New York. Oh man, oh,
Speaker 1: you know I helped them down here. When I was
Speaker 1: doing the thing. It was like, oh Tony, oh, Mr
Speaker 1: New York. But it's so and I think Tony would agree.
Speaker 1: It's such a caricature at the beginning, because he's not
Speaker 1: like that, especially when it's when it's I thought season
Speaker 1: episode I don't want to keep saying season I think
Speaker 1: episode two was more subdued and more natural that happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just so funny though to me. And then
Speaker 1: Mr Feenie walks down the hall with another female teacher
Speaker 1: bragging about his vitality, and Corey, now desperate, says he
Speaker 1: doesn't get how this all works. Sean says he thinks
Speaker 1: he gets it now, and he puts his hands through
Speaker 1: his hair, and then he gets two girls immediate attention
Speaker 1: to flirt with him. You've got a thirty foot range.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. Um, it's cool to see that the
Speaker 1: writers were recognizing the hair through the hands of the
Speaker 1: hair thing from season one, which was clearly a nervous
Speaker 1: tick that then became kind of a thing. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they wrote to it, which is yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: I think also, um, when you have hair you can't
Speaker 1: run your fingers through like that, it is a very
Speaker 1: enviable thing to be like, Wow, look at how he
Speaker 1: just tosses his hair back and funny, Like I said
Speaker 1: last time, they already they'd cut my hair, so he
Speaker 1: didn't actually have like at the end of season one
Speaker 1: would have been the better hair. Like the hair it
Speaker 1: was all the way down. No, but still this haircut
Speaker 1: is good. This is better hair than the last. Ben
Speaker 1: was very funny trying to so funny. He tries the
Speaker 1: same thing with his hair. It looks very goofy to.
Speaker 1: Pango runs up and very terribly asks him if he
Speaker 1: has headlights. I can't even watch myself. It is what
Speaker 1: was totally fine, Indie one of his favorite the headlights.
Speaker 1: They were then doing this and then you coming up
Speaker 1: in the headlights. He was just like this episode in general,
Speaker 1: Indie laughed harder than almost any other episode, interestingly, maybe
Speaker 1: because he was so uncomfortable with the talks happened. Uh.
Speaker 1: In turn to Panga touches her hair and a guy
Speaker 1: comes running over to her, and Corey says he needs
Speaker 1: new hair, which is very cute, an old call back
Speaker 1: to to the first time you were in the hallway
Speaker 1: with him. It's all that I was trying to get
Speaker 1: the new hair in that first episode that Tenggo was in.
Speaker 1: That's right, So you're right. Then we're in the Matthews
Speaker 1: kitchen slash living room Eric walks in with Rebecca Marguerite
Speaker 1: Moreau and asks Amy not to embarrass him. Me embarrasses
Speaker 1: him immediately by saying he went the bed till he
Speaker 1: was twelve. That's harsh. Sorry. Did you notice you were
Speaker 1: holding the folder when you slammed it down on the table?
Speaker 1: Was like there it is. The first thing I noticed
Speaker 1: when you walked in is there's the folder the random
Speaker 1: football player on front. And yep, and they have me.
Speaker 1: This is the start because they didn't last episode. This
Speaker 1: is the start of not only too many shirts, but
Speaker 1: too much collars. I have a collared shirt over a
Speaker 1: collared shirt. Yes, I have like a golf shirt with
Speaker 1: a collar and then a button down open with the collards.
Speaker 1: Multiple collared shirts. Now is Eric's look long? Multiple collared shirts? Wow? Okay,
Speaker 1: so very strange. And I remember Marguerite. She was so nice, uh,
Speaker 1: really easy to work with. And when we get into
Speaker 1: the next episode that the next scene we'll talk about
Speaker 1: something because she and I had a bit of an
Speaker 1: uncomfortable we um I mean not I mean not weak,
Speaker 1: but it was an uncomfortable day or so, and we'll
Speaker 1: get into the ring on a bed and making out
Speaker 1: in front of it's actually got worse than that, your
Speaker 1: old man, it actually got worse than that. So we'll
Speaker 1: get into that. But I can't wait to get into it.
Speaker 1: I will comment what absolutely gorgeous hair. She had the
Speaker 1: hair obsession on the show. It was something else, but wow.
Speaker 1: I walked in, I was like, look at her hair.
Speaker 1: I think people were cast mostly for their hair. I
Speaker 1: think you know, when they brought them to producers, there
Speaker 1: was like Carrie Russell, there's some hair. There's some hair,
Speaker 1: don't We have several episodes I can think of one
Speaker 1: where hair is actually in the title. I remember hair Today,
Speaker 1: Goon tomorrow. So I think there's more than one where
Speaker 1: hair is actually in the title. Makes sense. I was
Speaker 1: so sad with Weasel. I know you're getting into this.
Speaker 1: I know it made me so sad. They made her
Speaker 1: angry at the cool nickname that they had together, like
Speaker 1: I know. Well, Also, this scene, more than any other
Speaker 1: scene I've seen, felt like Lily was like checked out
Speaker 1: her bolt, get me out here. Uncomfort season two, she
Speaker 1: was like she saw the wall. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: what this is anymore. I want nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I've got a Fox pilot on the line. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: this was she did she? She genuinely looked like she
Speaker 1: just let me say what they told me to say
Speaker 1: and get out of here. Yeah. Hey, I'm Lance Bass,
Speaker 1: host of the new I Heard podcast Frosted Tips with
Speaker 1: Lance Bass. The hardest thing could be knowing who to
Speaker 1: turn to when questions arise, or times get tough, or
Speaker 1: you're at the end of the road. Okay, I see
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Do you ever think to yourself, what
Speaker 1: advice would Lance Bass and my favorite boy bands give
Speaker 1: me in this situation. If you do, you've come to
Speaker 1: the right place, because I'm here to help this. I
Speaker 1: promise you, seriously, I swear, and you won't have to
Speaker 1: send an S O S because I'll be there for you,
Speaker 1: and so will my husband Michael. Hey, that's me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we know that. Michael and a different hot sexy teen
Speaker 1: crush boybander each week to guide you through life step
Speaker 1: by step, not another one. Kids, relationships, life in general
Speaker 1: can get messy. You may be thinking, this is the
Speaker 1: story of my life. Just stop now. If so, tell everybody, yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody about my new podcast, and make sure to listen
Speaker 1: so we'll never ever have to say bye bye bye.
Speaker 1: Listen to Frosted Tips with a Lance Bass on the
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen
Speaker 1: to podcasts. So Eric asks if they want to take
Speaker 1: a break before they start studying, and Rebecca asks to
Speaker 1: see the house, and immediately the audience knows what that means,
Speaker 1: and we get a and then he takes her to
Speaker 1: the living room area with the couch and she says
Speaker 1: she wants to go upstairs. We get more woos and
Speaker 1: as they make their way upstairs, Corey and Shawn walk
Speaker 1: in and Corey says, no one warned him about this girl.
Speaker 1: Sean says Corey's going to get the hang of it
Speaker 1: and that there are other techniques than hair, and then
Speaker 1: Sean immediately takes off to go talk to a girl,
Speaker 1: and Corey says he's going to study, get good grades
Speaker 1: and become a famous scientist and then he will just
Speaker 1: build himself a wife. I like, I like Sean opening
Speaker 1: the door and doing the hair thing. You're a girl
Speaker 1: go off. Andy was like, that's more like a fifty
Speaker 1: foot range. Okay, okay, yeah, no I like that too,
Speaker 1: where you just hear the random voice is that you
Speaker 1: should um yeah, I thought that was funny. Uh. So Corey,
Speaker 1: here's music coming from upstairs, and he thinks it must
Speaker 1: be his mom and dad. So Corey walks up the
Speaker 1: stairs and then down the hallway we see first time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this again. I'm gonna say this again,
Speaker 1: and I know we're going to get emails again. But
Speaker 1: I don't think we ever see it again. I don't
Speaker 1: think we do. I think, okay, because of us, remember
Speaker 1: any of the upstairs No? No, So he walks toward
Speaker 1: Amy and Allen's room and then he opens the door
Speaker 1: and he sees Eric making out with Rebecca. And this
Speaker 1: is Amy and Allen's bedroom. So this is the thing
Speaker 1: that everyone emailed us about. Eric says they are studying,
Speaker 1: and Corey says, so am I which I remember that
Speaker 1: line the second I saw him holding the door up
Speaker 1: and I was like, I know what's coming. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: Marguerie and I were obviously kissing and doing everything during
Speaker 1: run throughs and rehearsals and all that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And I believe I could be wrong about that.
Speaker 1: I might be wrong about that, but I remember usually
Speaker 1: did he usually did, and I remember them they wanted
Speaker 1: it to look more sexual and like we were gonna
Speaker 1: go farther than what Corey had seen in the hallways,
Speaker 1: because in the hallways it was other people just making
Speaker 1: out there. But now he's walking in and Eric's on
Speaker 1: the bed. So it was literally, I hope we get
Speaker 1: Margarite on um because she could corroborate this or tell
Speaker 1: me that I've completely for gotten it, but I have
Speaker 1: a pretty good memory. Um. We were lying on the
Speaker 1: bed surrounded by Michael and the other writers and producers,
Speaker 1: and they were choreographing what we should do to make
Speaker 1: it look more sexual. So it was like no, here
Speaker 1: it was the left settled on leg. So what it
Speaker 1: was was it was like, well, we can't. And it
Speaker 1: was a very frank discussion about TV. Well you can't
Speaker 1: move your arm up like this, you can't blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So Michael, what Michael came up with was, here's what
Speaker 1: we wanted to look like. As Corey opens the door,
Speaker 1: you're making out and your leg is moving over as
Speaker 1: if you're right about to get on top of her.
Speaker 1: And that was a full discussion we were having at
Speaker 1: the time, and I remember Marguerite Deny as actors were
Speaker 1: probably like, okay, so we're gonna work this out, blah blah,
Speaker 1: and looking back at it, I'm just it's was was
Speaker 1: it creeped me out a little bit in retrospective. And
Speaker 1: I know we're not trying to do, you know, dismantle
Speaker 1: everything that we've done and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: but it was a moment of being surrounded by a
Speaker 1: bunch of older people telling us how to make this
Speaker 1: scene look more sexual. Well, and this is exactly why
Speaker 1: intimacy coaches exist. Now, you know, perfect, perfect opportunity for
Speaker 1: an intimacy coach right then and there, especially because you're
Speaker 1: dealing with two teens. Yeah, yeah, And it was it was.
Speaker 1: It was a full discussion of what they could get
Speaker 1: away with, what they could show, how much of the
Speaker 1: body I should throw over? Should my leg go up
Speaker 1: and over? What should she do? It was a full
Speaker 1: discussion of how to make it look sexual without making
Speaker 1: it look too sexual, How far can we go with this?
Speaker 1: How can we roll on it here? It was it was.
Speaker 1: It was a full discussion. It was like, it wasn't like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's do this alright action, It was like a twenty
Speaker 1: minute talk about how to make these two kids making
Speaker 1: out on kids is wrong? Two young adults making out
Speaker 1: on a bed, and I can understand this story pointed to.
Speaker 1: This has to be up in the game from normal
Speaker 1: making out to just super uncomfortable as actors, and it
Speaker 1: is as as a crew to have to deal with
Speaker 1: it is Yeah, the reason, it is the reason why
Speaker 1: intimacy coaches are so um so we're needed now a
Speaker 1: great addition to Hollywood. Yeah, because you know, like you said, writer,
Speaker 1: it is no one's arguing the importance to the to
Speaker 1: the plot. It is. It needed to be elevated from
Speaker 1: what we had seen in the hallway. But it would
Speaker 1: have been a lot more comfortable for Will and Marguerite
Speaker 1: if there had been one person in in a more
Speaker 1: private setting who was able to say, well, we can't
Speaker 1: do that. How would you feel about this? Can we
Speaker 1: try this? Um? Preferably a woman, preferably someone who is
Speaker 1: I mean. The key is also the power dynamics, right
Speaker 1: like that, The the the invisible part of this equation
Speaker 1: is the power dynamics when you're when you're a background
Speaker 1: actor and uh, the executive producer or director is telling
Speaker 1: you do this, just do that, just put your hand here,
Speaker 1: just do that. When you're a guest cast you feel
Speaker 1: more uncomfortable and say, will who would have felt in
Speaker 1: this situation your male versus female. But there's so many
Speaker 1: things going into this equation when you're straight or gay,
Speaker 1: whatever it is like. To have more barriers and to
Speaker 1: have more safety nets, you know, in this situation is
Speaker 1: only better. And and there there was none of that
Speaker 1: back then, and that that's just the way Hollywood had
Speaker 1: been and it was at the time. And Margaret was amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean, Marguerite was amazing with the whole thing and
Speaker 1: an an incredible actress. I mean, you know, everybody recognizes
Speaker 1: for Mighty Ducks and everything else that you did. But
Speaker 1: I just remember it was it was a weird. It
Speaker 1: was one of the weirder kind of moments I had
Speaker 1: on the set where it's like, oh, we're discussing like
Speaker 1: where my hand goes and where my leg goes, and
Speaker 1: how I have to turn this way so it looks
Speaker 1: like something big is going to happen right when Corey
Speaker 1: walks in um and it was just it was very
Speaker 1: It was odd to me, but it was. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: a perfect example of why an intimacy coast is necessary
Speaker 1: when you do any of this kind of stuff. Especially
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with young people. So it is um,
Speaker 1: and you're right, writer, it is. It is a power
Speaker 1: thing too. I mean I was a you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a guy who was a regular. That's much different than
Speaker 1: being a female guest cast for the weeks UM, so
Speaker 1: it Yeah, it makes a huge difference. But yeah, this scene.
Speaker 1: I always remember the scene, which is ironic because I
Speaker 1: didn't remember it took place in the bedroom. I didn't
Speaker 1: remember that we saw. I was probably so focused on
Speaker 1: everything else that was That's exactly what I was going
Speaker 1: to say, you were. The reason why is because you didn't.
Speaker 1: You were so blinded by everything else that was going on.
Speaker 1: You didn't remember the location. Totally forgot the location in
Speaker 1: the Matthews kitchen, Rebecca, who is now in a hurry
Speaker 1: to leave, comes down, she grabs her stuff. She says
Speaker 1: she's happy they didn't go any further. I'm glad, I'm
Speaker 1: glad they put that line in. Yeah. Eric tries to
Speaker 1: convince her to stay, but she leaves and she won't
Speaker 1: see him again. And Eric says he's going to kill Corey,
Speaker 1: bring him back to life, and then kill him again,
Speaker 1: and Corey says he has all the power now because
Speaker 1: Eric was in mom and Dad's bed and this is
Speaker 1: an absolutely perfect thing to hang over his head. And
Speaker 1: Corey asks, how how do you get a girl to
Speaker 1: say hi? He'll promise to keep quiet, and Eric tells
Speaker 1: him his secret, which is just that you have to
Speaker 1: make really good eye contact and pretend to be interested. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's awful, but it's funny. I mean, I get why
Speaker 1: an older brother who also doesn't know anything about women
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form, would give awful advice
Speaker 1: like this. And I like that it comes back that
Speaker 1: it's awful advice. But it's pretty cringe E to sit here.
Speaker 1: I mean, this whole episode is cringe until it is
Speaker 1: until Allen and Amy, until the adults entered the conversation.
Speaker 1: It's it's it was pretty hard, you know. It was
Speaker 1: baffling to me. It was like, what, yeah, could it
Speaker 1: could it be argued? Could it be argued that that's
Speaker 1: exactly what it was supposed to be. It's supposed to
Speaker 1: be horrible and cringe E and everybody fumbling their way
Speaker 1: through this thing called sex that nobody knows what it is,
Speaker 1: nobody is, you know, until you got to the adults,
Speaker 1: nobody had any idea, what the right quote unquote way
Speaker 1: was or respect about it or anything like that. So
Speaker 1: you could argue the point. Just go back for a second.
Speaker 1: What why is she running away? I know? Why? Why
Speaker 1: does it feel like it has been an attack or
Speaker 1: like some sort of flustery weird felt very odd to me.
Speaker 1: I thought it was was it that Corey walked in
Speaker 1: or that's what Eric had been pressuring her? It was
Speaker 1: that Eric. I think she was just embarrassed that someone
Speaker 1: had seen her in this in this precarious situation. But
Speaker 1: why wouldn't she ever see Eric again? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Why would she turn that on Eric and say I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna know and run out like something bad had happened,
Speaker 1: that some mine had been crossed that she was not
Speaker 1: comfortable with. Why was that about Eric? Like I understand like, oh,
Speaker 1: your little brother, you're creepy little brothers saws, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to be making out in front of your brother.
Speaker 1: Totally makes sense, But why was it like I'm not
Speaker 1: going to see you again? I mean, I guess just
Speaker 1: the story point was that that's that has to happen
Speaker 1: in order for Eric to be upset to be angry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it felt weird. It felt like date rape. It
Speaker 1: felt like something happened, and I know that that wasn't
Speaker 1: the intention, but it was suddenly like more than just
Speaker 1: a cringe e. It was like, oh, this feels bad,
Speaker 1: Like this feels like something bad haf camera that we're
Speaker 1: not talking about. And they certainly made her They certainly
Speaker 1: tried tried to make her look like the aggressor. Yes,
Speaker 1: there they set it up. They set it up ahead
Speaker 1: of time that she they want. It was almost like, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're definitely doing this because they don't want They want
Speaker 1: no chance for anyone to say there was any sort
Speaker 1: of pressure from Eric to her. So she's going to
Speaker 1: be the one telling him, let's go do this. No,
Speaker 1: you didn't pick up on my signal, let's go do this.
Speaker 1: And then later you even make it more clear that
Speaker 1: it was her. She patted the bed and said come here, um,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I had I'm glad, and then I
Speaker 1: never wanted around and she pointedly thanks Corey. She she
Speaker 1: she she looks around, she goes, thank you. And so
Speaker 1: it was it was a very and to writer's point,
Speaker 1: we needed it for the reason that if they were
Speaker 1: just going to get together some other day. Eric wouldn't
Speaker 1: need to be that angry because well, this is still
Speaker 1: a person I could be I could end up having
Speaker 1: that kind of relationship with. But it it really didn't
Speaker 1: make me feel good. It felt very much like, oh
Speaker 1: I feel super icky now, as opposed to just oops,
Speaker 1: two teens got caught doing what teens do. See you later, Eric, tomorrow,
Speaker 1: we can pick up where we left off because I
Speaker 1: wanted this. It was presented that I wanted to be
Speaker 1: with you. She walks up the stairs. She she goes,
Speaker 1: you got to show me the upstairs and takes off upstairs.
Speaker 1: Eric's by himself, so it's he. They certainly set it
Speaker 1: up that she was the aggressor, and then they set
Speaker 1: it up that, yeah, it came off as she's leaving,
Speaker 1: she wasn't like something bad happened, and like I was
Speaker 1: ever in that situation with a woman leaving this quickly
Speaker 1: or even at that age, I think I would be like,
Speaker 1: what did I do? Oh my god? How can I
Speaker 1: make this right? I am so sorry? Did did a
Speaker 1: miscommunication happened here? Like? It seems like there needs to
Speaker 1: be something some aftercare, as you might say, like you know,
Speaker 1: like hey, can we work this out, like you should
Speaker 1: not be leaving this angry. Yeah, and there's something some
Speaker 1: something like the way I feel like an easy way
Speaker 1: to get both is for her to have just been like, sorry,
Speaker 1: the moments passed, sure, yeah, an do it anymore? Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'd rather go somewhere where they aren't little brothers creeping around.
Speaker 1: Whenever my little brothers kill my kill, the vibe gotta go,
Speaker 1: like they very easily could have kept her empowered, kept
Speaker 1: her empowered. The fact is that she is disempowered. It
Speaker 1: feels like she has been disempowered by the situation and
Speaker 1: and that that she has to escape it in order
Speaker 1: to reclaim her power and reject Eric reclaimed her power,
Speaker 1: and that is a weird dynamic. It felt weird to me.
Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah, I thought so too, And I thought
Speaker 1: I didn't really feel it until she thanked Corey where
Speaker 1: it's like you say, it's like thank god you came in,
Speaker 1: because yeah, I could have gotten implication of that, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I thought the same thing. It was and
Speaker 1: it didn't fit with the rest of the episode. Now,
Speaker 1: even with the even with the fact that she was
Speaker 1: the aggressor in the beginning, like none of that fit.
Speaker 1: It just seemed weird. Yeah. Well, then we're in Mr
Speaker 1: Turner's classroom. Corey is terrifyingly staring at Wendy we don't
Speaker 1: know her name yet, but staring at the blonde girl
Speaker 1: sitting next to him, like Dahmer, He's just like glued.
Speaker 1: Mr Turner noticed his Corey isn't paying attention to his
Speaker 1: lecture on Tom Jones and asks Corey a question, and
Speaker 1: Corey has no idea what he's talking about. Did you
Speaker 1: guys also have to watch it three times to try
Speaker 1: and figure out what what are you doing? What are
Speaker 1: you doing? It was a weird choice. What do you
Speaker 1: think you're doing? Mouth? I was like, what is going on?
Speaker 1: Is he flirting? Yeah? I thought it was kind of funny,
Speaker 1: like he's mocking the like seductive guy. It was great
Speaker 1: because he could tell that Corey was being like super
Speaker 1: cool guy, so he can't love. But that's how it was.
Speaker 1: This is exactly what I'm just a perfect example of
Speaker 1: seeing something on a page and take and making it
Speaker 1: another on it. He just he just took it into
Speaker 1: There's no way it was written like that on the page.
Speaker 1: You just had the lines and what do you think
Speaker 1: about Matt, I was dying. It's hysterical. It was great.
Speaker 1: So then Mr Turner asks Sean to explain, but he
Speaker 1: also wasn't paying attention. Corey admits he didn't read the
Speaker 1: assignment and the bell rings. It could have gone farther.
Speaker 1: My impression, I should have gone, Matt Jews. I have
Speaker 1: this moment where I do like a little nudge towards
Speaker 1: a ton Tony impression. And I clearly wasn't comfortable with
Speaker 1: Tony enough yet to make fun of him. But I
Speaker 1: should have gone farther. I surprise, nobody pushed you to
Speaker 1: go far. Probably did. I probably still just held back.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, it was really funny. He's
Speaker 1: Mr Turner has been thrilled that the bell has ring,
Speaker 1: and he runs out himself. Corey is still staring at
Speaker 1: the girl, so she says what as they're walking out,
Speaker 1: and Corey says, he's looking at her amazing hair, and
Speaker 1: she says why, and she admits that she did rush it. Differently,
Speaker 1: he says, it's the most hair again, And it was
Speaker 1: here in this moment, while she was holding her notebook
Speaker 1: that I realized she's wearing a wedding ring. She just
Speaker 1: on the wedding finger. So I don't know why he
Speaker 1: picked the married twelve year old to go out, but
Speaker 1: so Corey asks her out and she says yes tomorrow
Speaker 1: after school. Sean and Corey then celebrate as Corey says
Speaker 1: he's got the boom. I think he said before, why
Speaker 1: don't you ask your brother? Eric's got the boom? Is?
Speaker 1: So we had said it before? I missed it before.
Speaker 1: Is the boom a thing that people know? I wrote
Speaker 1: that down to ask there's a song, is it Salt
Speaker 1: and Pepper? There's a song Who's Got the Boom? I
Speaker 1: got the boom? There's something I oh oh screaming at
Speaker 1: the right now. It's trying to figure out pop cultures.
Speaker 1: A line in the late eighties early nineties song it's
Speaker 1: like we like the cars the boom? Okay, Well, then
Speaker 1: what was happening was backstage Ben and I were singing
Speaker 1: that to each other without a doubt, because Ben and
Speaker 1: I would say lines like this to each other, and
Speaker 1: I remember him and I looking at each other and go,
Speaker 1: we like the cars. Because I probably never heard the song,
Speaker 1: but I learned it from Ben. So for years after
Speaker 1: probably this line we said that to each other and
Speaker 1: I've never to this. I never knew what it was from,
Speaker 1: but I can I can see Ben doing that to me.
Speaker 1: We like the cars, the cars, So that's so I
Speaker 1: knew the reference. Are I saw a reference in here,
Speaker 1: But it's probably because it was written this way and
Speaker 1: then we kept making Yeah, I know that was It
Speaker 1: started because Eric, because Corey asked Shawn, how do I
Speaker 1: find out about this? And Sean says, why don't you
Speaker 1: ask your brother? He's got the boom? Yeah? I don't.
Speaker 1: I've just never heard of he's got the boom. Stop
Speaker 1: trying to make um what is fetch? It's our mean girls,
Speaker 1: I'm never girls. Oh you're missing out. Okay, I'll give
Speaker 1: it a watch. Pretty good movie. Hi. I'm Christine Taylor
Speaker 1: and I'm David Lasher. David and I start in a
Speaker 1: little show in the nineties called Hey Dude, and now
Speaker 1: we're teaming up once again as the host of a
Speaker 1: new I Heart podcast Hey Dude the nineties called do
Speaker 1: you remember the motor rolla flip phone? Do you remember
Speaker 1: going to Blockbuster? Do you remember Nintendo sixty four? Do
Speaker 1: you remember getting frosted tips? Was that a serial? No?
Speaker 1: It was hair. Do you remember a O L instant
Speaker 1: messenger and the dial up sound like Poltergeist? Do you
Speaker 1: remember when we dated? Okay, save that for the podcast.
Speaker 1: We're going to use Hey Dude as our jumping off point,
Speaker 1: but we are going to unpack and dive back into
Speaker 1: the decade of the nineties. We lived it, and now
Speaker 1: we're calling on all of our friends to come back
Speaker 1: and relive it. Each episode will rival the feeling of
Speaker 1: taking out the cartridge from your game boy, lowing on it,
Speaker 1: and popping it back in as we take you back
Speaker 1: to the nineties. So listen to Hey Dude, the nineties
Speaker 1: called on the I Heart radio app, Apple podcasts or
Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts. Okay, So then we are
Speaker 1: in Amy and Allen's bedroom. Amy is sitting on the
Speaker 1: edge of the bed in a long flannel dress and
Speaker 1: Alan says she's looking very amish, which I think is
Speaker 1: very funny. Scene was great, And going back to what
Speaker 1: we've talked about multiple times, or what we did talk
Speaker 1: about multiple times in season one is just how many
Speaker 1: conversations they get to have that we're not just about parenting,
Speaker 1: but full scenes where we get to like peek inside
Speaker 1: their relationship. Is just cool, Like you don't see that
Speaker 1: the parents are such side characters in most sitcoms these days.
Speaker 1: They were really much like talking about their marriage, and
Speaker 1: you got to see them kind of flirting before bed,
Speaker 1: and it's very cute. Although Amy is very stressed for work,
Speaker 1: work that we've never heard about before. She's now the
Speaker 1: first time she references the gallery because that stuck around
Speaker 1: for a while if I remember. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: she's got a gallery and Alan says that he is
Speaker 1: there to relieve her stress, and they start kissing as
Speaker 1: they lay down in bed, and then Amy feels an
Speaker 1: earring dig into her back. She's very concerned and she
Speaker 1: asks Alan, who's is this now? I hope you're going
Speaker 1: to say the same thing. I am the biggest earring
Speaker 1: that she was in the world she was wearing, but
Speaker 1: we run out without knowing. You've got a giant well,
Speaker 1: because she was so flustered when she left, and by
Speaker 1: the way, she is missing the earring when she leaves. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: here's something doesn't make any sense. She was there a
Speaker 1: full twenty four hours before because Corey saw them and
Speaker 1: then got the advice from Eric went to school the
Speaker 1: next day, they didn't sleep in their bed, so they
Speaker 1: are having an affair. They are sleeping in the car,
Speaker 1: or I don't know what they're doing, but sometimes they're
Speaker 1: not sleeping in their bed. Oh man, I never the
Speaker 1: but is made. So they didn't sleep in their bed
Speaker 1: last night, or they slept in the bed, moved the earring,
Speaker 1: remade the bed, and somehow the earring stayed there like
Speaker 1: it just it is a continuity thing timeline wise, that
Speaker 1: just oh yeah, where were they sleeping the night before?
Speaker 1: They should have found it the same day, but it
Speaker 1: didn't work for story. Amy and Alan aren't open. Couple
Speaker 1: sleep in the bathtub every now and then. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you're saying, swing, yes, I guess it must be. And
Speaker 1: it was, she wouldn't be upset about the earring at all.
Speaker 1: She'd be like, which one who's is this? Because they agreed,
Speaker 1: they agreed not to have it happen in the bedroom,
Speaker 1: so they weren't aim for correct cot So anyway, I
Speaker 1: don't quite understand that. But it's not him, and she
Speaker 1: says she knows it's definitely not him. She doesn't think
Speaker 1: he's having an affair, and then Alan is offended by
Speaker 1: that because how dare you say that I could not
Speaker 1: be having an affair. Women still find me very attractive,
Speaker 1: and Amy says, of course, of course she could lose
Speaker 1: him at any moment. M it's a little exhausted by this,
Speaker 1: by this bit in their marriage, the whole it was
Speaker 1: just such an odd episode all the way around. Danielle
Speaker 1: just gave up on the podcast. Do we have to
Speaker 1: keep talking? I was just, I don't know. I you know.
Speaker 1: It's funny is that Will and I were talking. Will
Speaker 1: and I were having a conversation on the way home
Speaker 1: together the other day, and I said, and I immediately
Speaker 1: thought of Boy Meets World when I said this, But
Speaker 1: I said that Will and writer have very much a
Speaker 1: similar energy, which is a safe energy. And I said,
Speaker 1: right after I said it like no offense. And the
Speaker 1: only reason I felt like I had to say no
Speaker 1: offense is because of a lot of this like kind
Speaker 1: of boy meets World energy and an old timey nineties
Speaker 1: feeling where like it was somehow offensive to men to
Speaker 1: be a good guy to my masculinity because you called
Speaker 1: me dangerous. God exactly, it's a it was a it's
Speaker 1: a man. I want to I want to be predatory,
Speaker 1: even though I don't think that's what Alan is saying.
Speaker 1: Alan is just saying I'm a hot commodity. Other people
Speaker 1: could want me, so I am not. Please don't send
Speaker 1: me your emails. And I know what you're saying. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels now a little like, oh, come on, can
Speaker 1: you just be more confident in yourself? Alan? Incre it's
Speaker 1: an insecure marriage feeling, which I just don't think it's
Speaker 1: fun for them. I don't. I don't like them having
Speaker 1: insecure marriage stuff. I like them wooing each other and
Speaker 1: dating each other and keeping the spice alive, not a
Speaker 1: hey you think I couldn't cheat on you. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just it felt a little It's not my favorite.
Speaker 1: It's not my favorite bit for their marriage. And I
Speaker 1: loved every other one that I've seen. This was the
Speaker 1: first one that I was a little like, let's let's
Speaker 1: move past this place. And it was a weird It
Speaker 1: was a weird uh kind of juxtaposition for me because
Speaker 1: as much as I didn't like it, and I agree,
Speaker 1: Rusty's really funny. He's so funny. He's really funny. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's really trying to pull off for that is this
Speaker 1: thing welded on like all that stuff. Those are all
Speaker 1: great funny that I love. That's what I'm saying. That's
Speaker 1: the part I love. I love. I love their marriage
Speaker 1: being secure and stable and them hot for each other,
Speaker 1: uh and fun. But that's why it seems like a
Speaker 1: different show. It's like every character is getting slightly different
Speaker 1: than the and again we're we're seeing it through the
Speaker 1: prism of we're watching them back to back to back
Speaker 1: to back to back. Um. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it is it seems like they're okay, Well, season one
Speaker 1: was a good show for boy Mean's World. Season two
Speaker 1: we're going to kind of change everybody a bit, even
Speaker 1: the parents. And I guess Phoene's really the only one
Speaker 1: who's completely the same, although also almost non existent, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: that was the other thing is he's just not really
Speaker 1: in the show anymore. Really, here it seemed like everyone's
Speaker 1: just slightly different than they were. It was off. But
Speaker 1: I let's let's let's see how it settles him. I
Speaker 1: think we must write because we do. We continue to
Speaker 1: be a successful show, so I think we must have
Speaker 1: found our our game. You know, as the season went on,
Speaker 1: it still feels creaky to me, it's definitely yeah, there's
Speaker 1: definitely some awkward bits, and like, this is my biggest thing,
Speaker 1: is just like the adjustment to like horny, horny boy
Speaker 1: energy that permeates this entire episode for obvious reasons, but
Speaker 1: I also have a sinking feeling that a premeus the
Speaker 1: entirety of boy Mean's world, which is just gonna make
Speaker 1: me a little uncomfortable because you know, I obviously was
Speaker 1: a teenage boy, so it probably felt totally normal to me,
Speaker 1: but now it feels a little weird. It's not in
Speaker 1: the Honeymoon episode. We should just watch the Honeymoon episode
Speaker 1: over and over. That should be the podcast it how
Speaker 1: Dare you So? Amy then realizes it's Rebecca's earring, and
Speaker 1: she wants to go talk to Eric herself because she
Speaker 1: wants to avoid the atta boy type father son thing
Speaker 1: that the conversation could become. Alan and Amy decided that
Speaker 1: they were going to go together, and uh, but Alan
Speaker 1: makes a little atta boy joke as he walks out
Speaker 1: of the bedroom and then they turn right, which bothers
Speaker 1: me because when we saw Corey come up the stairs
Speaker 1: down the hallway, there weren't bedrooms before. Amy and Allen's bedroom,
Speaker 1: So it feels as though the boy's bedroom has to
Speaker 1: be They would have to make a left out of
Speaker 1: their bedroom, right. Then you take a left to the
Speaker 1: hallway curves to the left, and then there's probably another
Speaker 1: hallway that goes straight and the stairs are at the
Speaker 1: end of that hallway down to the left. I so
Speaker 1: you think they passed the stairs. They passed the stairs, Okay,
Speaker 1: I assumed that the stairs dead end there. Basically that
Speaker 1: the stairs dead end, that's like a curved walkway, and
Speaker 1: the rest of the house has to go anyway. Whatever,
Speaker 1: big deal. At first, I was like, wait, they went
Speaker 1: the same way towards the staircase. But you're right. It
Speaker 1: could extend. It could extend the lego set, the Matthews
Speaker 1: family lego set. By the way, not not to bring
Speaker 1: down the house, but I texted you guys a while
Speaker 1: ago that I did a recording session and the boy
Speaker 1: me world house is gone. I know it's gone. It's
Speaker 1: a little that's so crazy because actually, like people lived
Speaker 1: in it for a while. Yeah really yeah, yeah, people.
Speaker 1: A girl I grew up with, um, her husband's family
Speaker 1: owned it and lived in it for years. Um, So
Speaker 1: it's such a weird coincidence. It's my town of six
Speaker 1: thousand people. She her husband ended up living in the
Speaker 1: boy Beats World house. So we're in Korey and Eric's bedroom.
Speaker 1: Amy and Allen walk in and ask if he wants
Speaker 1: to tell them anything. Amy pulls out the earring and
Speaker 1: he pretends it's a birthday present for his mom. He
Speaker 1: then quickly admits that nothing happened. Well, you were so
Speaker 1: good in this scene. I remember having fun with the scene.
Speaker 1: I do, I remember having I remember this is where
Speaker 1: I think I'm starting to feel the comedy a little bit.
Speaker 1: You keep saying that you got the comedy. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It evolves. It evolves though it's always evolving, and that
Speaker 1: this is starting to get it. But this is a
Speaker 1: This is just a well written scene. And it's also
Speaker 1: not always you. It's like there are going to be
Speaker 1: scenes that are better written, like the scene with Amy
Speaker 1: and you at the bathroom door in season one that
Speaker 1: was funny six episodes in and it was you were
Speaker 1: nailing it. This is a well written scene in the
Speaker 1: sense that you're being confronted and you have witty things
Speaker 1: to say, and you have to keep adjusting in your approach,
Speaker 1: which is great for you as an actor because you
Speaker 1: just keep trying this. Now I'm gonna do this. Boy,
Speaker 1: it was fun and it was a fun I remember.
Speaker 1: I also remember how funny Rusty was in the scene
Speaker 1: too good, Yeah, everybody's great, Yeah, and then coming in
Speaker 1: with just like played food and like way he's so
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, but I mean, it's just the dynamics
Speaker 1: is a very well directed scene as well as an
Speaker 1: acted scene, and that everybody's sort of very clear, everybody's
Speaker 1: at cross currents. It's just good. It's all well written.
Speaker 1: This was one of my my most favorite family scenes.
Speaker 1: I remember that. And this also is finally where the
Speaker 1: show feels like like all the ickiness is sort of like, oh,
Speaker 1: the adults are in the room now, okay, Like all
Speaker 1: the bad advice that Corey has been getting is going
Speaker 1: to be reaching you know, reality and being called out
Speaker 1: for what it is, which is just nice to see
Speaker 1: and it brought the episode full circle. So Corey walks
Speaker 1: in and he says, take it easy on Eric. He
Speaker 1: taught him how to finally get a girl to say hi.
Speaker 1: They asked what her name is and Corey doesn't even
Speaker 1: know her name. Corey says, but it's all part of
Speaker 1: Eric's foolproof met fullproof method to get a date. Corey
Speaker 1: explains Eric's idea of getting any girl to make eye
Speaker 1: contact with him. Amy says she would rather Corey go
Speaker 1: to Alan for this kind of advice instead of Eric,
Speaker 1: and Corey says he walked in on Eric and Rebecca,
Speaker 1: and Eric starts being amazing Grace, which is so funny,
Speaker 1: and then Eric reanax Rebecca telling him to sit next
Speaker 1: to her on the bed, and Alan says that he
Speaker 1: should not rush into sex, even though when his father
Speaker 1: told him that he didn't believe it, but now that
Speaker 1: he is a father and he's here in this very
Speaker 1: moment um, he's has to say it, and it's very important.
Speaker 1: I love the joke where he was like, and you'll
Speaker 1: know someday when you're a father, which is so that
Speaker 1: it was really cute. And then Alan tells Corey that
Speaker 1: he's better off not knowing anything about girls than going
Speaker 1: with Eric's advice, which I thought is a perfect joke
Speaker 1: to also drive the point home that total ignorance is
Speaker 1: better than the advice that you don't need to care
Speaker 1: at all about the person you're trying to get into
Speaker 1: a relationship with No. It was nice. It was a
Speaker 1: nice scene with Rusty, nice scene with with Betsy. It
Speaker 1: was it was, it was And again I think you
Speaker 1: can argue you're supposed to feel the ickness through most
Speaker 1: of this episode because it is Ikey. When you're a teenager,
Speaker 1: nothing you do is right. And so it is the
Speaker 1: adult coming back in and steering the ship like, Okay, no,
Speaker 1: he's an idiot and you need to be your age, um,
Speaker 1: And I thought that was yeah, I agree. So then
Speaker 1: we are in the school hallway. The girl from class
Speaker 1: comes up to Corey and asks if he's ready to
Speaker 1: go on the date. Corey says, do you feel funny
Speaker 1: about this whole thing, and she says yes, she gets it.
Speaker 1: Corey says they should still get to know each other
Speaker 1: in case they ever do want to go out, and
Speaker 1: he asked because she wants to go somewhere and talk.
Speaker 1: And he finally finds out her name, Wendy. Corey says
Speaker 1: hi after learning her name, and she says hi back.
Speaker 1: She's very nice, she's a very good, good actress, and
Speaker 1: it's it's a very sweet moment between the two of them.
Speaker 1: It really was. It's very cute, and then we are
Speaker 1: in Corey and Eric's room. Corey and Eric are working
Speaker 1: on their homework. Eric says, even though he has been
Speaker 1: for he has been forbidden from talking about girls with Corey.
Speaker 1: He wants to know if Corey wants to update him
Speaker 1: on anything in his life. Corey says he had a
Speaker 1: good time on his date. Eric asks asks what his
Speaker 1: technique was, and Corey says he was just real nervous
Speaker 1: and nodded a lot. And then Corey says that even
Speaker 1: though he didn't know, he doesn't know if he did well.
Speaker 1: Wendy does want to go out again, and then the
Speaker 1: tables turn and Eric asks Corey how exactly he nodded
Speaker 1: asking for love advice. I guess the teacher has become
Speaker 1: the student and will the way you nod is. And
Speaker 1: then this is pure real bed. That is Ben Savage
Speaker 1: laughing at Wilford ll And that's why it's such a
Speaker 1: great moment. I lost it. I jumped off. I can
Speaker 1: see it. He's yeah, he covers his face with his
Speaker 1: hand like he's so embarrassed because you just cracked him up.
Speaker 1: And that wasn't the original, it was an original endure.
Speaker 1: But he could not get through it because you just
Speaker 1: made him laugh, and it just was like, oh, it
Speaker 1: was so fun to see to be like, oh, there,
Speaker 1: I remember laughing with him in these moments and feeling
Speaker 1: such real connection. Yes, yes, me too. I did the
Speaker 1: exact same thing. I watched it happened, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I have to watch it again. I
Speaker 1: watched it multiple times. It's like the couch you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a behind the scenes moment. It is a raw,
Speaker 1: behind the scenes moment of not being able to keep
Speaker 1: it together. And well, it's also nice because you know
Speaker 1: that he still has the burden of carrying the show
Speaker 1: on his shoulders at twelve or thirteen. By this point,
Speaker 1: he's still doing that week after week. He's still killing
Speaker 1: it every week. And so to see a moment where
Speaker 1: you can tell it's just him having pure fun and
Speaker 1: he's just down. Yeah, the work falls away, yes, and
Speaker 1: it's just him as a kid laughing. It was great.
Speaker 1: Love I love. I loved every time I got to
Speaker 1: break Ben or you guys broke me or any of that.
Speaker 1: It was just such a real, real moments. All so
Speaker 1: much in front of the audience was there was so
Speaker 1: much of that so much. Yeah, it is. It's funny
Speaker 1: than to see that moment because it's like so much
Speaker 1: of our quote unquote home memories, our home videos are
Speaker 1: the actual show, but but that those aren't really what
Speaker 1: we were what we were, So this moment was like
Speaker 1: an actual capture of team. Then. So here's my question.
Speaker 1: Does the audience know the difference? Can the audience tell
Speaker 1: the difference? I don't know, let us know. It's interesting,
Speaker 1: you know if it's a feeling like you just get that,
Speaker 1: you get that Joy made such a big reaction that
Speaker 1: Alex and Indy knew, you know, like I didn't give
Speaker 1: them a chance to like to call it out at all.
Speaker 1: So I'm very curious if you don't know, Ben, or
Speaker 1: if you don't know, if you just think that that's
Speaker 1: Corey being a moment where there's something more raw and
Speaker 1: like so natural about it that it transcends the structure
Speaker 1: of the show. I kind of wish I could go
Speaker 1: back and thank Ben. I know that sounds ridiculous, but
Speaker 1: for just kind of being the rock that held the
Speaker 1: show to get I mean, it's what I mean, But
Speaker 1: did do that to an eleven or twelve year old?
Speaker 1: But you can easily be the reason the show existed,
Speaker 1: and then it goes in a whole different direction and
Speaker 1: they're like, no, we're not going He carried the burden
Speaker 1: the whole time. Um, and that's really impressive. So yeah,
Speaker 1: part of me wish just I could go back and
Speaker 1: talk to twelve year old band and be like, you're killing.
Speaker 1: It helped somebody's telling you that you're killing all the
Speaker 1: time and we appreciate that, you know, So that would
Speaker 1: be yeah, yeah, I don't know. Not to end melancholy,
Speaker 1: but thank you for joining us for this episode of
Speaker 1: pod Meats World. You can follow us on Instagram pod
Speaker 1: meets World Show, and you can send us your emails.
Speaker 1: Please do send us your emails and let us know
Speaker 1: whether or not you thought that was just something scripted
Speaker 1: that Corey laughs at the end, or did you know
Speaker 1: that it was a total break and it was just
Speaker 1: real Ben Savage laughing there. You can send us your
Speaker 1: emails at pod Meats World Show at gmail dot com,
Speaker 1: and as always, we have merch merch you can get
Speaker 1: that at pod Meats World show dot com and we
Speaker 1: will see you next time. We'll send us off. We
Speaker 1: love you all. Pod dismissed pod Meats World is an
Speaker 1: iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Daniel Fishel, Will Fernell
Speaker 1: and Wright or Strong. Executive producers Jen some Carp and
Speaker 1: Amy Sugarman Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer
Speaker 1: and editor, Tara suit Box producer, Jackie Rodriguez, engineer and
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World super fan Easton Allen. Our theme song
Speaker 1: is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. You can follow us
Speaker 1: on Instagram at pod Meats World Show or send us
Speaker 1: an email at pod Meats World Show at gmail dot com.