WEBVTT - Solutions for 2022

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin, This is solvable. I'm Ronald Young Jr. I'm San Fragoso,

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<v Speaker 1>host of Talk Easy with San Fragoso. What if we

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<v Speaker 1>called our parents more, our friends, had better, more fullhearted conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>the kinds we always say we don't have time for

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<v Speaker 1>or just too busy to have listeners. Tis the season

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<v Speaker 1>for problem solving. I mean, that's solvable. We're always steeped

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<v Speaker 1>in it. But this is the time of year that

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of America takes a few extra minutes to

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<v Speaker 1>look carefully at their lives, then set goals, carve out resolutions,

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<v Speaker 1>make fresh intentions for a better life. Hi. I'm Tim Hoffitt.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the host of Cautionary Tales. The problem I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to see solved is creating more beautiful, lie walkable neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 1>If we could solve this problem, that would be good

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<v Speaker 1>from mental health, it'd be good for the economy, good

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<v Speaker 1>for jobs, good for the planet. There's so many ways

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<v Speaker 1>in which this is a problem worth solving, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like it shouldn't be such a hard problem. We

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<v Speaker 1>think some problems really should not be too hard to solve.

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<v Speaker 1>And I usually bring someone with the wealth of knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>and a roadmap to tell us how. But we have

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<v Speaker 1>a special episode today, a chance to peer behind the

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<v Speaker 1>curtain with the team that makes Solvable possible. Each week,

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<v Speaker 1>I've invited my colleagues to sit down and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the things we'd like to see solved. We'll also hear

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<v Speaker 1>from some other pushkin podcast hosts about problems they'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to see solved. And as you're listening, if you think

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<v Speaker 1>of something you'd like us to solve, tweet us at

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin Pods using the hashtag solvable. Here we go, Hello, team,

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't we go around the table and introduce ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>so that everyone knows what voice matches to what role.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Sasha, I am the managing producer of Solvaball, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming at you hot from Brooklyn, New York. I'm Joscelyn,

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<v Speaker 1>senior producer of Solva Ball, and I'm joining this chat

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<v Speaker 1>from Minneapolis. I'm David. I do research for the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm at my parents' house in Connecticut for the holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at us. I guess I didn't say I'm in Alexandria, Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>but here we all are, and I'm so glad that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys get to join me on Mike Today. Welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>happy to me here. All right, So I assembled you

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<v Speaker 1>all because I wanted to talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>problems that we want to see solved next year. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>we guys, we work on this show and we talked

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of luminaries, but we don't never really

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<v Speaker 1>get to talk to each other about problems. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about y'all, but do you guys feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you guys think more about problems differently since working on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. For sure, I totally do, Yeah, definitely more optimistically.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel I hear about a problem and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>someone's probably going to figure this one out. It's no biggie,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll have about the show right right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it just makes me, like forces me to

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<v Speaker 1>think more specifically, like you have to do something, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like that our researchers bringing it back to

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<v Speaker 1>the ground for us, where like, yeah, it all gets done,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, actually have to work hard to find

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<v Speaker 1>the people in a practical way. You guys take it

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<v Speaker 1>for granted, like this takes some effort. So what we

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<v Speaker 1>did was we each of us. I asked you to

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<v Speaker 1>come with a problem that you'd like to see solved

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<v Speaker 1>in the next year or in any time in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Big or small, doesn't matter. David, Let's start with you.

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<v Speaker 1>What problem would you like to see solved? We talk

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about like serious issues, so I figured i'd

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<v Speaker 1>talk about something with lower stakes. I guess right now,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a global graphics card shortage. Oh wow. It's mainly

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<v Speaker 1>driven by COVID. But like personal computer PC part components

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<v Speaker 1>all around the world are really hard to come by

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<v Speaker 1>right now. And as you guys know, I love video

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<v Speaker 1>game and I play a lot of PC games, and

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<v Speaker 1>I like building computers when I need to know every

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<v Speaker 1>few years. But I've been saving up money for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time and I was really looking forward to my

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<v Speaker 1>next build. But when the pandemic started, it became almost

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to buy graphics cards, which is the most important

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<v Speaker 1>part of your computer if you like gaming, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what renders everything, that's what makes everything look beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where a lot of its visual processing power comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's just a huge global shortage right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of reasons for that. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of just like a classic supply chain issue. And

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturing issue. But it's also a little more complicated. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of bots that people have made because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone knows that these things are in demand and hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get, so like all these like you know, ingenious

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<v Speaker 1>teenage trolls have like set up these automated bots that

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<v Speaker 1>will buy up all of Nvidia's cards in like seconds

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody can get them. And then there's this whole

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<v Speaker 1>push during the pandemic of crypto mining, So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people have been mining bitcoin during the pandemic, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when that's where graphics cars are super useful. And

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<v Speaker 1>so those people, I think are botting as well to

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<v Speaker 1>buy everything. And so if you're just like a normal dude,

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<v Speaker 1>like what else am I supposed to do during lockdown?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I need to play my video games, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's hard. It's just hard to buy graphics cars

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and I wish someone would fix that. David,

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<v Speaker 1>are you optimistic that they'll fix the supply chain issues

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<v Speaker 1>or do you think that somebody will come up with

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<v Speaker 1>some other method to replace the video card as we

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<v Speaker 1>know it now? Like, how do you think what direction

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<v Speaker 1>do you think they'll take it to solve it? I

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<v Speaker 1>think in twenty twenty two. I think they've had a

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<v Speaker 1>whole year twenty twenty one to kind of wrap their

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<v Speaker 1>heads around with the logistical problems are. I think in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two they will fix like the supply chain

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<v Speaker 1>problem that they're having, like they've been. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of companies that make graphics cards are like investing

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<v Speaker 1>in I don't in their plants and ways that make

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<v Speaker 1>it more that they can meet demand. I wish they

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<v Speaker 1>would solve more like the boding problem, and some of

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<v Speaker 1>them haven't tried. Some of them have, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>video released a new graphics card or whatever, they'll only

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<v Speaker 1>sell it at best Buy in like the brick and

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<v Speaker 1>mortar retail store, and people will like camp out or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't really work because you can only provide

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<v Speaker 1>like X number of graphics cards. And I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a tent, so and I'm not going to sleep out

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<v Speaker 1>for a freaking you know, computer card whatever. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>like one of these crazy bitcoin people, So so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, there's there are challenges, like I I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>entirely sure like what their supply chain fixed would look like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't even know what the demand is going

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<v Speaker 1>to look like this year, because I wonder if it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna it's gonna remain that high, if things will change,

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<v Speaker 1>if people are coming out of lockdown and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how much you've thought about that, talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it a little too much. Resale market. Oh yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>is what I mean, I think they're teenagers. But what

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<v Speaker 1>these like scalpers do, they're scalpers. What they do is

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<v Speaker 1>they they buy up these cards with their bots, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for six hundred dollars, five hundred dollars a piece, real fast,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, a couple months later they'll selve for

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<v Speaker 1>like twelve hundred or like twenty four hundred, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like multiple thousand dollars, and they just make, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>make easy money that way. So it's a it's prime

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<v Speaker 1>for scalping. It's like somebody's going to college off of

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<v Speaker 1>video cards video card fund, Yeah, for school, David, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great problem. I think it's I like that it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it personally affects you, but it actually is something

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably affecting lots of people. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>bot problem being solved is probably something that would fix

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more than just video cards shortages. I know personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I like Jordan's sneakers and Nike's generally, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>boding problem with people buying the shoes as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>they come out, like almost like they're they're gone immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would love to see the boding problem solved

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<v Speaker 1>as well. You know. That's things because I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we just need some version of like three D

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<v Speaker 1>glasses where if the you know, video card is really weak,

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<v Speaker 1>they just send everyone, you know, a special pair of

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<v Speaker 1>like high Death Beautiful, real cheap and easy just quick

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<v Speaker 1>quick fix for twenty twenty two. But those would get

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<v Speaker 1>botted too, yeah, real low Fi Consolation Prize. We also

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to hosts of our fellow push gim shows

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<v Speaker 1>for their ideas on problems they'd like to see solved

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<v Speaker 1>in whatever frame of time they chose. Here's our first one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Michael Lewis, host of Against the Rules, and the

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<v Speaker 1>major problem in the world that I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>see solved is baseball. How do you make it less boring?

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<v Speaker 1>It's got an aging fan base, declining ratings, and the

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<v Speaker 1>games keep getting longer and longer. I have thoughts about

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<v Speaker 1>how to solve it. I mean, you could do it

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<v Speaker 1>in a stroke by say, like putting a lion on

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<v Speaker 1>the field, like not one of those lazy zoo lions,

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<v Speaker 1>but a line from the savannah. It would get interesting instantly.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody would watch that, and it's very Roman. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be a very Roman solution to the problem. You could

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<v Speaker 1>turn the stadium into a casino where the fans it's

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<v Speaker 1>ideally suited as a game to bet on everything that

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<v Speaker 1>happens because there's so little action and there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>time between the action, So that'd be another way to

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<v Speaker 1>solve it. I don't think that the little things that

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<v Speaker 1>baseball is thinking about doing around the edge is making

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<v Speaker 1>the bases a little bigger so they're easier to steal,

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<v Speaker 1>and moving the picture back and all that stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's going to address the fundamental problem. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the game is out of step with the

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<v Speaker 1>age we live in, and so figuring out how to

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<v Speaker 1>change it in a way that preserves it but interest

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<v Speaker 1>people is going to be very hard. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>can figure that out, climate change is a breeze. That

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<v Speaker 1>was Michael Lewis, host of Against the Rules Are Sister

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<v Speaker 1>podcast here at Pushkin. What do you guys think is

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<v Speaker 1>baseball too boring. I mean, baseball is definitely boring. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's too boring. The how boring they slid?

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I love about it. It is such

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<v Speaker 1>an intensely psychological sport because there's just so much standing

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<v Speaker 1>around and so much that happens when you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>standing at the base and your opponent is standing right

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<v Speaker 1>next to you and they like joke around but also

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<v Speaker 1>or adversarial. I don't know. I think baseball is just

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<v Speaker 1>boring enough. There's a lot of passive, aggressive chumminess, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like in baseball. And then and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>also outright like brawls I guess when like they cleared

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<v Speaker 1>the dugouts or whatever, But that's rare. Being there live

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<v Speaker 1>makes it a lot less boring, But watching it on

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<v Speaker 1>television there's little entertainment value. And then most of the

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<v Speaker 1>fights happen all when there's unwritten rules that are broken,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am not a fan of rule, and baseball

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<v Speaker 1>leans heavily into unwritten rules, which there's a big debate

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<v Speaker 1>about that as well. John, what do you think. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you in terms of like watching it versus

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<v Speaker 1>watching it in person. Versus watching it on TV. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I've ever watched a whole baseball game on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>The psychological challenge is not just for the players on

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<v Speaker 1>the field, as for the audience too. We have, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how how much consumerism will we fall prey to,

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<v Speaker 1>how much unnecessary snacking? How many times will we get

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<v Speaker 1>up and stretch? Will we accidentally clap just because something happened,

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<v Speaker 1>not because it's a team we're looking for to win.

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<v Speaker 1>But I actually think I love organized sports. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're really fun. I love team sports especially. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>me and it makes me think about like how much

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<v Speaker 1>fun I had playing them when I was a kid

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<v Speaker 1>and still when I play them now. And but I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it's boring, and I do think that they

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<v Speaker 1>could probably pick it up, Like doesn't need to be

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<v Speaker 1>that many innings. I think that's the easy fix, Like

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<v Speaker 1>just make it fewer innings like little. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>should just it should just make it one inning, one inning,

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. I think the only pushback I have to you, Jocelyn,

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<v Speaker 1>is that unnecessary snacking is an oxymoron all snacking. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like the way you put that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels very just that's fair. That's fair. It's funny

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<v Speaker 1>to hear. Michael Lewis, the author of one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite books of all time, Moneyball, called Baseball Boring. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Moneyball totally blew my mind. It's incredible. Yeah, Like chess

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<v Speaker 1>is theoretically satisfying, but the action of chess moments moment

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<v Speaker 1>can be very slow. That's why speed chess is awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why people see that, because it forces you

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<v Speaker 1>to fight. Michael suggests putting a lion in the field.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I think changing the rules of baseball

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<v Speaker 1>to make it a little more fast paced, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little more like score heavy, like basketball or hockey or

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<v Speaker 1>something or such. It on double speed. Yeah, maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>the that's the answer. I don't know. You need to

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<v Speaker 1>You might need to change the rules. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you guys stumbled onto something that about baseball, though, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that like, the more you know about baseball, the

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<v Speaker 1>more interesting it is. It's fun if I know what's happening,

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<v Speaker 1>But when I don't, I'm like, I don't care. So

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<v Speaker 1>I hear the crack of the bat, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>if they can find a way to solve that the

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<v Speaker 1>line on the field, I think would solve that. So Joslyn,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what problem did you bring to us today.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Michael Lewis kind of threw it down

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<v Speaker 1>when he said, like, if we can solve baseball, then

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<v Speaker 1>climate change is easy. Climate change is so huge, And

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about this several different ways on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's ways we can break it down into smaller parts.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the small parts that I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to see solved is emissions from planes.

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't planes be electric if we're putting all this

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<v Speaker 1>energy into electric cars, but we know that planes gobble

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<v Speaker 1>up way more fuel than cars, although there are more

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<v Speaker 1>cars on the road and cumulatively cars are more responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for overall co two. I'd still really love to see planes.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's just personal interests because I love flying and

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<v Speaker 1>visiting people and exploring the world and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to feel terrible about that all the time. So I

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<v Speaker 1>admit that it's self interest, but it's also global interest.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like electric planes, I'd love to see that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel hesitant about electric planes because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the potential for them to drop out of the sky.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I don't know why I just in my head,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, what if it runs out. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even keep my phone charged, so the idea of it

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<v Speaker 1>falling out of the sky bombs me. But I will

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<v Speaker 1>say while you were talking, I was like, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a hybrid plane then that would definitely cut down some emissions,

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<v Speaker 1>like using both electrical elements and fuel elements. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or like if things get bad, you could all everyone

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<v Speaker 1>could just plug their own phone into their individual charger

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<v Speaker 1>and give a plane like a little extra boots on

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<v Speaker 1>an electric plane in no uncertain term. I am never

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<v Speaker 1>boarding an electric plane, oh man, or maybe when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like one hundred years old. But I do see the

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<v Speaker 1>seriousness that you see in the issue. Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the safety issue is definitely legit, and it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>take some time before that's a norm and people feel

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable doing that. But I think, like Joscelyn, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you touch on something that's like really true and resident

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<v Speaker 1>in that, like people are more willing to like sacrifice

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<v Speaker 1>their car on day to day because it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's like whatever. I can find ways around that.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it comes to like visiting family or going

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<v Speaker 1>to see something far away or see a wonder you've

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<v Speaker 1>always wanted to see, Like paying for that fuel is

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<v Speaker 1>like almost always worth it psychologically, and it's like people

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<v Speaker 1>are more willing to get on that gas guzzling plane,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, versus like maybe cutting out a couple commute

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<v Speaker 1>trips in their car every week. So I think there

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<v Speaker 1>should be more touch and paid to that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you have a good point. Thanks. I mean planes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's estimated they're responsible for about three percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the CO two, so you know, we're not fixing

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<v Speaker 1>climate change with this one. But they're more efficient per

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<v Speaker 1>person I think than cars because you can put a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people on one plane, so we could all

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<v Speaker 1>work from home and then save up our carbon carbon

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<v Speaker 1>credits for seven wonders of the world and our family,

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<v Speaker 1>not in that order. I think carbon credits is I

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<v Speaker 1>think somebody heard that their ears perked up in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of a solution good they're for us building up. So

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<v Speaker 1>let that Let's hear from another one of our pushkin

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<v Speaker 1>hosts about one of the problems they'd like to see solved. Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doctor Laurie Santos. I'm the host of the Happiness

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<v Speaker 1>Lab podcast, and what I would like to see solved.

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<v Speaker 1>Is behavior change. So many of the big problems that

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<v Speaker 1>face us right now, things like climate change and the

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<v Speaker 1>addiction crisis, and even political polarization, their problem of human behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>This is true for lots of the tiny problems we

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<v Speaker 1>face too, like the fact that it's tricky for me

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<v Speaker 1>to get up and exercise in the morning, or the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that I don't get enough sleep. What we know

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<v Speaker 1>from the social science is that behavior change is hard.

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<v Speaker 1>We need great solutions to figure out how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's a big problem I'd love to see solved. Sasha,

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<v Speaker 1>do you struggle with changing your behavior? Um? Calling out

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<v Speaker 1>the question, I do and I don't. I'm like very

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<v Speaker 1>structured and formulaic. Once I have a behavior in place,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure of habit, but I am open to new habits. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you got any anything I need to course correct on.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the same space. What if that was a

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<v Speaker 1>leaded for me? Actually it's more I think the challenge

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<v Speaker 1>is more building positive habits, like when I get like

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<v Speaker 1>when it's been a few months since I seriously exercised

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and like trying to just just jog a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit every day. That's hard, and I can read

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<v Speaker 1>all like the self help and watch all the motivational

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<v Speaker 1>videos I want, but I feel like, at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, it's just like this, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>flip the switch inside yourself and like go and do it,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's really hard. Lauri's talking about like

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<v Speaker 1>fixing human behavior. There's a lot of bad behavior out

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<v Speaker 1>there that I wonder if as external regulators we can

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<v Speaker 1>really fix, and if there are if those people even

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<v Speaker 1>want to fix their own bad behavior. I just wonder

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<v Speaker 1>to what extent we can actually modify how people act

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<v Speaker 1>at all. It makes me think of that episode we

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<v Speaker 1>did with pre Compost. Actually I think about that episode

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. She was talking about health at every size

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<v Speaker 1>and the ways that we decide what's good and bad,

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking about how scarcity plays into it. She was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, you know, foods that we say we can

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<v Speaker 1>only have a little bit, or we can have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this, but only a little of that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think the same thing could go for all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of behaviors that we qualify as good and bad. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some that are like clearly bad, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like murder a little bit, it's not okay, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know how desperately we have to buy a present, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we put all this pressure on ourselves to like

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<v Speaker 1>have a certain job and work a certain lifestyle and

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<v Speaker 1>da da da da, and it becomes this negative cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas like, if we could frame it as like I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give her a hug and that will be really meaningful,

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<v Speaker 1>then we remove all those other layers of pressure that

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<v Speaker 1>lead us to do something stupid and bad. Quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for absolving me of finishing my Christmas shopping, Jocelyn.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to take your lead on this and

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<v Speaker 1>just give everyone a hug. Sasha, while I have you,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you tell me what your problem is. My

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<v Speaker 1>problem is everyone's problem. And I think that we are

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<v Speaker 1>behaving badly in America as a democratic nation, and specifically

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<v Speaker 1>the one that touts itself as the most democratic nation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're really failing to uphold that promise. So

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<v Speaker 1>what I would like to see is a really concerted

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<v Speaker 1>effort to save voting rights in this country, to really

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<v Speaker 1>re establish us as an actual functional democracy in the

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<v Speaker 1>truest sense of the word. So, I know, like voting

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't solve everything, but it is, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best tools that we have to at least try

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<v Speaker 1>and solve things. So I would like to see the

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom to Vote Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights

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<v Speaker 1>Advancement Act past by Congress, who we voted for and

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<v Speaker 1>who in some ways seem to have forgotten that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. I think voting is the basic

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<v Speaker 1>building block of democracy, and it seems like people in

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<v Speaker 1>power are really taking steps in order to retain power,

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<v Speaker 1>which erodes the basic building blocks of democracy. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think if we don't fix that, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>shape we're going to be in in the years to come,

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<v Speaker 1>because we already see changes that are happening now as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of that erosion of the basic building blocks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think we can all imagine what sort

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<v Speaker 1>of shape we're going to be in. We were very

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<v Speaker 1>close to being in this shape earlier this year, even,

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<v Speaker 1>And I just hope that everyone takes as seriously as

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<v Speaker 1>they need to the threat that we saw this year

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<v Speaker 1>around the conversation of stolen elections. And you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not super confident that this is going to solve

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<v Speaker 1>itself without a concerted effort on behalf of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who believe that we need to fix this. By the

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<v Speaker 1>next election. Now, our next post has something that's I

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<v Speaker 1>would say that is rites adjacent or if not right,

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<v Speaker 1>aligned with rights. So let's hear from him about the

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<v Speaker 1>problem he'd like to see solved. I'm justin Richmond, host

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<v Speaker 1>of Broken Record from Pushing in Industries. I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to see the policing problems solved. And I know this

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<v Speaker 1>is a hard, multifaceted problem with what would probably need

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<v Speaker 1>to be a multi pronged approach to completely fix the

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<v Speaker 1>system as it stands. But I think one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that really needs to change is police culture. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you change the culture by enriching the hiring pool.

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<v Speaker 1>It should not be an anomaly for say a twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, twenty five year old recent college graduate with

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<v Speaker 1>the liberal arts degree to go into policing, But how

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<v Speaker 1>do you encourage that a federal program where you subsidize

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<v Speaker 1>up to fifty percent of this person's salary so that

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<v Speaker 1>they make fifty percent more than someone starting that position

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<v Speaker 1>would without a college degree. I think an influx of

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<v Speaker 1>this type of person could go a long way towards

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<v Speaker 1>changing police culture. Maybe I love that he has this

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<v Speaker 1>type of proposed solution, Like I love this idea because

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<v Speaker 1>it means that he spent some time thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think people's knee jerk reaction is to look

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<v Speaker 1>at something like this and immediately poke the holes in it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the truth is, policing in the state that it's

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<v Speaker 1>in right now in the United States it needs serious reform,

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<v Speaker 1>and these are the types of ideas that we need

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<v Speaker 1>in order to actually make the improvements that we need

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<v Speaker 1>to see. David, what do you think. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>is a really good point about changing the hiring pool

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<v Speaker 1>for American policing. You know, in other countries, particularly in Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>people have to go through a rigorous academic collegiate process

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<v Speaker 1>and get advanced degrees. Yeah, and joining the police force,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's thought of as something a little more prestigious

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<v Speaker 1>than it is the way it's thought of in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the sort of militarization of the way

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<v Speaker 1>we treat our cops and the way we militarily police

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<v Speaker 1>certain people in this country incentivize this sort of lowest

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<v Speaker 1>commons denominator recruiting method that brings in people who are

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<v Speaker 1>willing to tow the military industrial policing line. And that

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<v Speaker 1>is a cultural problem, and that's not going to change unless, ironically,

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<v Speaker 1>unless we start thinking of and treating our cops in

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<v Speaker 1>a different way, maybe less as I don't know dogs

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<v Speaker 1>of the state and more like more like legal workers

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<v Speaker 1>or attorneys or something like that. So I think he

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<v Speaker 1>has a point there. I agree. I have mixed feelings

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<v Speaker 1>about higher education and whether everyone needs to go to

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<v Speaker 1>college to have like a successful career or be seen

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<v Speaker 1>as a success in our culture. So I hesitate a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit to feel, like, you know, policing or any

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<v Speaker 1>job has to require a college degree, which is then

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<v Speaker 1>more expensive. But I do like the idea of varying

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<v Speaker 1>the training and thinking about different ways to think about

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<v Speaker 1>and teach civic engagement civic enforcement, like connection to community,

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<v Speaker 1>what we owe each other, how to manage when people

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<v Speaker 1>are struggling in those systems and acting out because of

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<v Speaker 1>those challenges. So I hesitate on the academic side, but

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<v Speaker 1>I like the reframing side. I got to back David's

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<v Speaker 1>last justin on this would because I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>would never make that type of argument about doctors or

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers or like dentists or people that like really need

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<v Speaker 1>extensive training in order to enact the duties that they

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<v Speaker 1>actually do and when you walk into a dent and

0:25:35.796 --> 0:25:37.996
<v Speaker 1>there are bad dentists, bad doctors, and bad lawyers, we

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<v Speaker 1>know that, but we like protect the quality and the

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<v Speaker 1>integrity of those roles by requiring more from them. Academically,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there needs to be an academic requirement and

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<v Speaker 1>an intelligence requirement, and I think there has to be

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<v Speaker 1>a standard and a bar to actually be a cop.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the idea of just wanting to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, just having the aptitude to be a

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<v Speaker 1>cop is should not be enough to Actually I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I said you just want to be the cop. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounded like I was just like just yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to back to Jocelyn here. Not that I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even sure we were taking sides, but if we

0:26:15.516 --> 0:26:18.876
<v Speaker 1>are and taking Joscel inside, you're you're not wrong, Ronald.

0:26:18.996 --> 0:26:20.636
<v Speaker 1>Like if you want to be a doctor, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to go to med school. Like if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a cop, you have to go to cops school.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what they call it, police academy. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>movies like this does exist, and I think for good reason,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, but I really like what David hit

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<v Speaker 1>on at the end, which is that like reevaluating and

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<v Speaker 1>repositioning the role that cops play in communities will attract

0:26:42.836 --> 0:26:45.796
<v Speaker 1>a different type of applicant. You know, you're you're just

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<v Speaker 1>going to attract a different type of person with different messaging.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think, yeah, I'm with Jocelyn that it's less

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, what college you go to or what

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<v Speaker 1>degree you have, and just more about what how cops

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<v Speaker 1>exist in America right now. I think I agree with that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will say, like police academy is like a

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<v Speaker 1>max two to three months, and yeah, you go to

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<v Speaker 1>med school for four years, you go to law school

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<v Speaker 1>for two to three years. That's where I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's lacking because in cases of when we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>collegiate education, because I feel like you could be conflicted

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<v Speaker 1>on education, but I feel like the trade off is

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<v Speaker 1>then to say who do you want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>police officer? And I feel like, for me, at the

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<v Speaker 1>bare minimum, if it is going to be police academy

0:27:31.876 --> 0:27:34.436
<v Speaker 1>that's in a non collegiate setting, I mean I need

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<v Speaker 1>them to have like six months of emotional intelligence training,

0:27:38.076 --> 0:27:41.036
<v Speaker 1>six months of implicit buiance training, like and then before

0:27:41.076 --> 0:27:42.676
<v Speaker 1>they even touch a gun, you got to get this

0:27:42.716 --> 0:27:46.556
<v Speaker 1>certificate and then it's like, now you can touch a gun. Yeah,

0:27:46.596 --> 0:27:48.396
<v Speaker 1>that kind of plays into what I was thinking in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the education piece, too, is that you don't

0:27:51.836 --> 0:27:55.036
<v Speaker 1>go see a doctor for everything that's bothering you. Sometimes

0:27:55.036 --> 0:27:58.556
<v Speaker 1>you see a PA or a nurse or some other specialists.

0:27:58.556 --> 0:28:01.476
<v Speaker 1>And I think the same should go for police, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe certain branches of police should have more understanding of

0:28:05.956 --> 0:28:09.876
<v Speaker 1>like the human mind. And maybe they're all called cops,

0:28:09.876 --> 0:28:12.996
<v Speaker 1>but they have different styles of training in different areas

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<v Speaker 1>of expertise, so they're more on the lines of social

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<v Speaker 1>workers and community intervention specialists and non violent communication experts

0:28:22.556 --> 0:28:27.356
<v Speaker 1>and neighborhood watch teams, and that they're all part of

0:28:27.356 --> 0:28:30.236
<v Speaker 1>a public safety team. Like I don't think every cop

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be a surgeon. We need more pas and

0:28:33.196 --> 0:28:37.396
<v Speaker 1>nurses in police care. But I mean PA school is

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<v Speaker 1>two to three years, nursing school is too. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about education, there's going to be an educational

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<v Speaker 1>and a multi year educational component to any of any

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<v Speaker 1>of the roles that you just listed. All right, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get on board with upping everyone's baseline human relational quotient

0:28:54.556 --> 0:28:58.156
<v Speaker 1>or what's that called when people can like emotional intelligence yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if they come up with some agreement on what the

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<v Speaker 1>baseline is, but they'd certainly need that same two years

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<v Speaker 1>of like you said, HRQ before you could even hold

0:29:05.356 --> 0:29:07.676
<v Speaker 1>a gun step foot out there. Yes, that's right, you

0:29:07.716 --> 0:29:12.396
<v Speaker 1>coined that that acronute. All right, let's let's let's end

0:29:12.396 --> 0:29:16.796
<v Speaker 1>on a lighthearted note. I have a problem that, okay, obviously, yeah,

0:29:16.956 --> 0:29:21.436
<v Speaker 1>have fun with that everyone. I have many problems. The

0:29:21.436 --> 0:29:24.676
<v Speaker 1>problem that I brought to you today is pretty light

0:29:24.796 --> 0:29:27.236
<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of half solved. But I don't think

0:29:27.236 --> 0:29:30.076
<v Speaker 1>it's solved. The death and it really bothers me. We've

0:29:30.076 --> 0:29:32.676
<v Speaker 1>been in pandemic for nearly two years now. You know,

0:29:32.716 --> 0:29:35.596
<v Speaker 1>we've baked remotely, We've done things on zoom. You know,

0:29:35.636 --> 0:29:37.876
<v Speaker 1>we've stood across the room. We've touched the glass on

0:29:37.956 --> 0:29:40.036
<v Speaker 1>either side of the windows to see our loved ones

0:29:40.276 --> 0:29:43.356
<v Speaker 1>drive by birthday parties. We've done all of that with

0:29:43.396 --> 0:29:45.356
<v Speaker 1>all this technology. And maybe this is due to the

0:29:45.396 --> 0:29:49.076
<v Speaker 1>graphic video card shortage. David, I don't understand how we

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<v Speaker 1>have not come up with an effective and stable way,

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<v Speaker 1>universal way for all of us to watch the same

0:29:55.796 --> 0:29:59.156
<v Speaker 1>thing together at the same time. And when I say that,

0:29:59.876 --> 0:30:01.716
<v Speaker 1>I want to sit down on my couch and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to watch a movie with David and my home

0:30:04.716 --> 0:30:07.476
<v Speaker 1>television at the same time he's watching it, with no

0:30:07.596 --> 0:30:10.196
<v Speaker 1>latency speeds, none of that in between. I would be

0:30:10.236 --> 0:30:12.316
<v Speaker 1>able to watch every act at the same time like

0:30:12.436 --> 0:30:14.316
<v Speaker 1>he's in the room with me. Now, I know people

0:30:14.356 --> 0:30:15.996
<v Speaker 1>are gonna tell me a bunch of apps like there's

0:30:16.036 --> 0:30:18.516
<v Speaker 1>watch Party as you could do it on Discord, that

0:30:18.556 --> 0:30:20.636
<v Speaker 1>type of thing. What I'm saying is there's no way

0:30:20.676 --> 0:30:22.476
<v Speaker 1>for me to just turn my TV on and do

0:30:22.516 --> 0:30:24.916
<v Speaker 1>it as simply as I could stream stuff by myself,

0:30:25.236 --> 0:30:27.636
<v Speaker 1>and the options a lot of times are not embedded

0:30:27.636 --> 0:30:30.676
<v Speaker 1>in the actual streaming apps themselves, Like, for instance, if

0:30:30.676 --> 0:30:32.796
<v Speaker 1>you look at something like Disney Plus, they have some

0:30:32.836 --> 0:30:34.916
<v Speaker 1>options for you to watch together, but then you might

0:30:34.956 --> 0:30:37.036
<v Speaker 1>be only able to do it on an iPad, not

0:30:37.156 --> 0:30:39.516
<v Speaker 1>on your television, not on your laptop. I've thought this

0:30:39.596 --> 0:30:42.196
<v Speaker 1>a lot. They have a lot of different varying degrees

0:30:42.236 --> 0:30:44.836
<v Speaker 1>of this, but there's not one universal way for all

0:30:44.916 --> 0:30:46.476
<v Speaker 1>of us to do it unless we just turn on

0:30:46.556 --> 0:30:48.956
<v Speaker 1>cable television. Then we can yell on each other on

0:30:48.996 --> 0:30:51.036
<v Speaker 1>the phone. So clearly there is a way for this

0:30:51.076 --> 0:30:54.156
<v Speaker 1>to exist, but it seems like in the streaming age,

0:30:54.276 --> 0:30:56.316
<v Speaker 1>we have not truly solved a way for us to

0:30:56.356 --> 0:30:58.676
<v Speaker 1>be watching things together. And I thought that by now

0:30:58.996 --> 0:31:02.676
<v Speaker 1>month ump team of the Global Pandemic, that we would

0:31:02.676 --> 0:31:04.196
<v Speaker 1>have figured it out, that I'd be sitting down and

0:31:04.196 --> 0:31:05.676
<v Speaker 1>being like, hey, y'all want to watch this movie. Hey,

0:31:05.756 --> 0:31:08.676
<v Speaker 1>let's watch it at this time or whatever, you know,

0:31:09.516 --> 0:31:11.676
<v Speaker 1>And That's what I'd like to see solved. I think

0:31:11.716 --> 0:31:14.156
<v Speaker 1>this is the perfect time to shout out a solvable

0:31:14.156 --> 0:31:17.956
<v Speaker 1>episode that we did called remote Music Collaboration online in

0:31:18.036 --> 0:31:23.436
<v Speaker 1>real time is solvable. All the musicians and ensembles, we're

0:31:23.476 --> 0:31:26.756
<v Speaker 1>feeling that so intensely, and probably most of them continue

0:31:26.756 --> 0:31:30.436
<v Speaker 1>to And like you said, there's these small niche fixes

0:31:30.476 --> 0:31:32.796
<v Speaker 1>that people have figured out. And we actually talked about

0:31:32.996 --> 0:31:36.396
<v Speaker 1>one of those awesome solutions on our show, um before

0:31:36.436 --> 0:31:39.356
<v Speaker 1>you were hosts. But so you know, we don't shout

0:31:39.356 --> 0:31:45.476
<v Speaker 1>out shows that. No, I'm just kidding, I don't know.

0:31:47.476 --> 0:31:49.756
<v Speaker 1>It was a really inspiring episode because it made it

0:31:49.796 --> 0:31:53.276
<v Speaker 1>feel like those latency issues could be solved. I will

0:31:53.316 --> 0:31:58.036
<v Speaker 1>say in my friend group, I am the most annoying

0:31:58.116 --> 0:32:01.916
<v Speaker 1>person about this. I like, I have such rules about

0:32:01.956 --> 0:32:05.676
<v Speaker 1>like if you miss the queue to start the movie,

0:32:05.836 --> 0:32:08.996
<v Speaker 1>You're like out of the group text like I like that,

0:32:09.116 --> 0:32:11.836
<v Speaker 1>and everyone a link. I'm not even kidding. I send

0:32:11.876 --> 0:32:14.876
<v Speaker 1>everyone a link to the world clock website and I'm

0:32:14.876 --> 0:32:19.356
<v Speaker 1>like when this, like, you better be cued up to

0:32:19.516 --> 0:32:23.476
<v Speaker 1>zero zero zero zero. Sasha has solved it. Oh yeah,

0:32:24.236 --> 0:32:30.356
<v Speaker 1>and I've lost all my friends along the way. Website.

0:32:31.916 --> 0:32:35.836
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing, I know. And it like it always like

0:32:35.956 --> 0:32:40.236
<v Speaker 1>always goes awry immediately. But I will say I think

0:32:40.276 --> 0:32:44.236
<v Speaker 1>about the sort of corollary to this a lot ronald Um,

0:32:45.276 --> 0:32:47.756
<v Speaker 1>which I don't know. Maybe this is another conversation we

0:32:47.756 --> 0:32:50.796
<v Speaker 1>can have another time. But like what you said about

0:32:50.876 --> 0:32:56.476
<v Speaker 1>cable TV is so true, and I think that humanity

0:32:57.036 --> 0:33:00.116
<v Speaker 1>um has certainly lost. Like we've gained a lot with

0:33:00.276 --> 0:33:07.276
<v Speaker 1>streaming and this like individualized cultural consumption that we can make,

0:33:07.356 --> 0:33:11.756
<v Speaker 1>but I think that humanity it has lost something by

0:33:12.316 --> 0:33:15.356
<v Speaker 1>devaluing appointment TV. And like you see it like during

0:33:15.396 --> 0:33:20.156
<v Speaker 1>the Oscars or like basically like the oscars presidential debates,

0:33:20.396 --> 0:33:22.716
<v Speaker 1>like maybe the super Bowl if that's your thing, but

0:33:22.836 --> 0:33:25.716
<v Speaker 1>there are so few things now where like the entire

0:33:25.756 --> 0:33:29.676
<v Speaker 1>world is watching together. If you're on Twitter during the Oscars,

0:33:29.716 --> 0:33:33.596
<v Speaker 1>everyone is in conversation and yeah, I just wish that

0:33:33.716 --> 0:33:38.196
<v Speaker 1>like Appointment TV came back, Seinfeld lost, like any of those, Yeah,

0:33:38.276 --> 0:33:41.236
<v Speaker 1>exactly lost. So we're recording this on a Monday, and

0:33:41.516 --> 0:33:45.796
<v Speaker 1>yesterday was Sunday was the Succession season finale, and spoilers,

0:33:45.796 --> 0:33:48.316
<v Speaker 1>I haven't watched it, please especially. My point, that's exactly

0:33:48.316 --> 0:33:50.476
<v Speaker 1>where I was going with this, is that I can't

0:33:50.476 --> 0:33:52.596
<v Speaker 1>even like I want to talk about it with people.

0:33:52.636 --> 0:33:54.076
<v Speaker 1>And I have several friends who are like, I haven't

0:33:54.116 --> 0:33:55.876
<v Speaker 1>watched yet. And now I'm like, well, you're on the

0:33:55.916 --> 0:33:58.276
<v Speaker 1>clock because I want to tell you about and I

0:33:58.276 --> 0:33:59.996
<v Speaker 1>can't have this moment because you're out here being like

0:34:00.036 --> 0:34:02.236
<v Speaker 1>I can't sit down at nine o'clock. Well, Sunday nights

0:34:02.236 --> 0:34:04.436
<v Speaker 1>they watched this show. We all need to be watching.

0:34:05.836 --> 0:34:08.196
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, no, I agree. I would love the return

0:34:08.236 --> 0:34:10.316
<v Speaker 1>of Appointment to V. We've seen some of it with

0:34:10.596 --> 0:34:13.956
<v Speaker 1>shows like Insecure, shows like Succession. People are still watching

0:34:13.956 --> 0:34:17.076
<v Speaker 1>those in bulk. But I now, because of people's schedules,

0:34:17.236 --> 0:34:19.356
<v Speaker 1>were separating them and I think there needs to be

0:34:19.836 --> 0:34:22.316
<v Speaker 1>maybe another way for us to just be able to

0:34:22.356 --> 0:34:23.916
<v Speaker 1>be like, all right, we're not going to watch it

0:34:23.956 --> 0:34:27.076
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday, but we've created some sort of link together

0:34:27.156 --> 0:34:29.316
<v Speaker 1>where we can all watch it on our televisions like

0:34:29.396 --> 0:34:32.716
<v Speaker 1>in the in our most comfortable settings in our own homes.

0:34:33.116 --> 0:34:38.236
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, I will invest in whatever app you're

0:34:38.236 --> 0:34:41.956
<v Speaker 1>building for TV CO. It's called ron Has Problems dot Com.

0:34:44.316 --> 0:34:46.356
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate you guys joining me today. This has

0:34:46.356 --> 0:34:50.676
<v Speaker 1>been a great and fun conversation. Yeah. Thanks for getting

0:34:50.756 --> 0:34:53.516
<v Speaker 1>us together in real time to do the same thing. Yes,

0:34:53.676 --> 0:35:00.356
<v Speaker 1>this is solvable. Listeners, what are the problems you'd like

0:35:00.436 --> 0:35:03.356
<v Speaker 1>us to solve in twenty twenty two? Tweet us at

0:35:03.476 --> 0:35:07.516
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0:35:09.876 --> 0:35:14.156
<v Speaker 1>twenty two with fresh episodes of Solvable. Solvable is produced

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<v Speaker 1>by Josin Frank, researched by David John, booking by Lisa Dunn,

0:35:19.036 --> 0:35:22.916
<v Speaker 1>editing help from Keyshelle Williams. Very special thanks to Maggie

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor and our fellow Pushkin hosts. Our managing producer is

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<v Speaker 1>Sasha Matthias, and our executive producer is mio Lebelle. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald Young Jr. Thanks for listening.