1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, Get Seem Scuffles with Liz Frank. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Greg Rosathal. What's up, boys? Hey? Dan? Whoa? We are 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: flying Fellas Week fourteen, Sunday action in the books and 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about home stretch. So much to 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: talk about, a lot of good games going into the gig. 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: Although they didn't talk out to be great, I was 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: excited about didn't deliver. Maybe you shouldn't have been so 11 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: excited for the RAMS. I don't think anyone was excited 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: for the RAMS. Makes a good point before we, uh 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: we started today. I haven't done this in a while. 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: I thought you guys would because I always value your 15 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: input and feedback, because you're always honest and you have 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: great ear for things. I've come up with some new 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: NFL slogans as we moved towards two thousand seven. All right, Greg, 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: you pay attention, Okay, the NFL. You worry about ratings. 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: I'll just enjoy the bone crunching hits. I love that 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: it's a good start, like that's off message, is a 21 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: problematic in terms of the of the game. Yeah that 22 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: I feel like the same people who took away our 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: music might take away that slogan. Okay, let me stay 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: away from that one, alright. The NFL National Football League 25 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: or is it no way fun excitement like it? I do? 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: It's a bit much verbally, did you pick up? Yeah, 27 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: there was the acronym in very stretched out acrona with 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: multiple words. But have to fit that onto a commercial, 29 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know, when you're just 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 1: thinking of writing it out, it's a lot of words. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 31 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: last one, I'm over too, but you know, not giving 32 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: up yet. NFL action way better than your kids, But 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: you don't need to tell them that it that's hey, 34 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: you said, well we're thinking, Hey, all right, maybe I'll 35 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: go back to the drawing board. No, I think you 36 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: nouted on that last the third one. I wouldn't. I 37 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't assume that you did. I would. I would go 38 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: back to the drawing board and come up with more. 39 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: Maybe that one of those, you know, sneak through as well. 40 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: All right, the listeners, let me know if if any 41 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: of those seem like hardcore winners, a lot of games 42 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: to get to. UM. Of course, this Sunday night football 43 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: game between the Giants and Cowboys is where we'll close things. 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: But uh, with every team playing this weekend, we have 45 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: four team games to talk about today, and I believe 46 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: the best thing to do, guys is to get right 47 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: to get right to business. And where better to start 48 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: than lambeau Field. Roger Shotgun with a step back to 49 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: his right, snapped day rod dancing to the right, looking 50 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: who loves it right sidelines? Said he's God for the 51 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: touch stop sixty seven yards. Oh what a way to start. 52 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: Dwayne Larvey w T m J. Here come the Packers. 53 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers fought through more leg issues and another excellent 54 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: performance and Russell Wilson through a career worst five interceptions 55 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: and the Packers ten win over the Seahawks. Uh the West. 56 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: The Packers have won three straight and are once again 57 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: looking like a power player in the NFC. But what 58 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: what about the Seahawks? Is this what life without Earl 59 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: Thomas is gonna be? Like my own? I wouldn't jump 60 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: to that conclusion. This was a comprehensive dismantling of the 61 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: Seahawks by the Packers. That's not to say on a 62 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: neutral field on a different day, it would have wound 63 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: up the same way. The bounces literally went the Packers 64 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: way in this game. A lot of interceptions bounced either 65 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: out of receiver's hands or off defensive backs uh shoulder pads. 66 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: It was. It was a game where the luck went 67 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: on the Packers side. But they also played really well. 68 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: And I think about the Packers now as the two 69 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: thousand fourteen Packers two eleven Packers, not the October and 70 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: November Packers. And to Mark's credit, he's been on this 71 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: for about eight days now, just assuming the Packers will 72 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: be in the playoffs? Is that a backhanded complement? Genuine there? 73 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Mark is a visionary. He is he is. 74 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: He gave up on routed against the Packers for a 75 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: reason he knows they will be playing in January. I 76 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: mean mine, but mine came probably less from you know, 77 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: all twenty two coaches film, and more from just a 78 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: resign sense that my mid season campaign to get them 79 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: out of the postseason. To think I was ahead of 80 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: that was faulty and could not have been more off base. 81 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna do what they always do. They're gonna go 82 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: play in January. Green Bay fans, you had about two 83 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: weeks there to have a tough time as a fan. 84 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: Six weeks, well me, I was a little bit rough. 85 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: You know, you went through a real time of you know, 86 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: it probably felt out changed your character and boldened you. 87 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: But now you're back where you belong as the most 88 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: fun fan base, having more fun than anyone else would 89 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: possibly Could you really you really hold it against the 90 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: fans that they've had had two good of it only 91 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: in marks world? Is it a bad thing to have 92 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: fun as a football No? I just want to have 93 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: it too. How about how about this Seahawks team being 94 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: so bad consistently on the road. I mean, you can't 95 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: say year to year that they're like this necessarily, but 96 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: they lost to the Rams on the road. They lost 97 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: to the Bucks on the road, they lost to the 98 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: Saints on the road. They're not even competitive in this game. 99 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: I know they beat the Patriots, but this is a 100 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: team now with four losses in a tie. Obviously we 101 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: know to win the NFC they're almost certainly gonna have 102 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: to go on the road, and and they now have 103 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: some work to do to get that by in the NFC, well, 104 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: I think people have said for a long time that 105 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: bad offensive lines don't travel, and that's probably the biggest 106 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: weakness on this team. So that's one factor. And the 107 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: defense today, I'm not ready to say just because Earl 108 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: Thomas wasn't there, this is what we should expect. Aaron 109 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: Rodgers was to the point he was in the zone, 110 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: to the point where he was doing heat checks. He 111 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: was that hot early on. And I think Jordy Nelson 112 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: and Davante Adams are playing as well as any tandem 113 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: of white outs in the league right now. I don't 114 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: know how does any defense come in and stop what 115 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: I saw of this game where Aaron Rodgers was absolutely 116 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: and I think it's you put an interesting nugget in 117 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: your in your right up about Troy Aikman, who sits 118 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: with the team's late week, said that he had and 119 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: he saw an energy coming from this group that he's 120 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: not seen all season or in a long time. You 121 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: can see that on the field. The defense, which was 122 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: getting crushed is in the last three games today gave 123 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: up what ten points, has given up thirteen thirteen and 124 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: ten points. The turnaround. They pressured Wilson throughout UH six 125 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: turnovers by the Seahawks. Nine quarterback hits by the Packers defense, 126 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: seven passes defense in three sacks. This is not the 127 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: Packers defense you were seeing in November. Well. And and 128 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: one thing that's been consistent from week one with the Packers, 129 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: they have among if not the best pass protection in 130 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: the league. It is right there. And when you can 131 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: do that against this group, you know, look, Earl Thomas 132 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: isn't playing on the defensive line when you can do 133 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: that against the Seahawks. And and you know, looking by 134 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: the box score in terms of QB hits, three QB 135 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: hits all day he had time. I mean, you're getting 136 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: something done. You're gonna have a chance. I have one 137 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: concern here if I'm a Green Bay fan who is 138 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: feeling very good right now, Aaron Rodgers body is a 139 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: little beat up right now. And he had the hamstring 140 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: issue and now he has a calf issue, I believe 141 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: on the other leg. And if you remember a calf 142 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: ishue really blew up a season of his couple of 143 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: years ago. And this is just something to track now 144 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: as we had into the final games regular season. He 145 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: if he's limited, that is a major piece of this. 146 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: The first you can say, forty five minutes of this game, 147 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: we're so reminiscent of that NFC Championship game in two 148 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen, from Russell Wilson's interceptions to Rogers calf 149 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: injury which he was playing through in that game. And 150 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to keep winning. I mean, at seven 151 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: and six, they still have a lot of work left 152 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: to do to get into the playoffs. They might have 153 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: to win those lasts. Not saying they camp that they might. 154 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: That's my at this point. I'll be surprised if they 155 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: lose another regular season game. So the NFC North is 156 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: really heating up now. The Lions. Could they keep up 157 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: and stay ahead of the Packers. Well, let's talk about that. 158 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: Stafford's got it. Fact looks looks backing up, looking for 159 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 1: somewhere to go. Stafford's gonna tuck it and run. Stafford 160 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: at the five three two touchdown Detroit Lions, Matthew tucking 161 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: old right one top quarterback. Gotta be Matthew, Do not 162 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: call him matt Dan Miller w j R. With a 163 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: nice call. There they did it again. Matthew Stafford bounced 164 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: back from a disastrous pick six to lead the Lines 165 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: to another comeback victory, this time a win over the 166 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears to keep Detroit in the NFC North driver's seat. 167 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: Now at nine and four. Whoa and uh the lines 168 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: are nine and four and they won again, and they're 169 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: in first place halfway through December. So maybe it's time 170 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: to had a get a friend on the phone, you know, 171 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: find a friend. Been a long time? Uh? Is that 172 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: what they call it? Who wants to be a millionaire? 173 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: Bone a friend? He is our current reference. You are goodbye, 174 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: A different show, good one though I liked it. Our 175 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: Chicago corresponded, but of course a big Motown fan. He 176 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: is Kevin Patrick. I'm at you, what's up buddy on 177 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: Fellas getting me punked with that Dan Miller call right there? Yeah, yeah, 178 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: Den Miller's a good a good play by play guy. 179 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: I remember when I did the pain rankings, I interviewed 180 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: him because he had the famous call Patra after the 181 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: oh and sixteen season, which I'll spare you his his 182 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: famous line at the end of the season. But it 183 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: shows you how far we've come now since two thousand 184 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: and eight. The Lions are in a really good position. 185 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: What did you see in this game? Because I watched 186 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: this game fairly closely, and this was not their best effort, 187 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: but once again they found a way, and that's that's 188 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: what we've been all year. I mean again, they trailed 189 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: to the twelfth time in thirteen games in the fourth 190 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: quarter after Matthew Stafforde pick six which was just just 191 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: not a good throw. He didn't have his best game today. 192 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: He got hurt early reports. Are you know that he's 193 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: got a dislocated middle finger tendon? Heard in there that 194 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: you didn't play well? He's These lines have done this 195 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: several times. They barely beat the Jags. We've got against 196 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: the Vikings twice. Um, you know, but you sometimes you 197 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: played on your competition. But good teams keep winning and 198 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: that's what you need to do to get in the playoffs. Yeah, 199 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. And I thought that the Bears 200 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: have showed a little pluck here with Matt Barkley, so 201 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't think it was necessarily You know, the Lions 202 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: had a terrible day. I thought Chicago played well. But 203 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: at the same time, Wes, I know you're not a 204 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: big fan of this Lions team, uh, but there has 205 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: to be something to be said about their ability to 206 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: continue to win games and all of a sudden, now 207 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: they're nine and four. They could they could get to 208 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: that eleven win mark and possibly even get to buy 209 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: anything's possible here. They could get to the eleven and 210 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: win win mark, and they could stay at nine. They 211 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: have the Legitimacy Bowl next week at the Giants, which 212 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: which one of these teams is legitimate, and then they 213 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: play the Cowboys and Packers, and the Packers and the 214 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: Packers and Cowboys might be the two best teams in 215 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: the NFC right now. So I think saying that the 216 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: Lions are gonna win eleven games, I mean, I'm gonna 217 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: need to believe it. I would like to ask Kevin, 218 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: how do you rate this lines team? Do you think 219 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: they're legitimately a legitimate playoff team? I think with the 220 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: mediocrity that's throughout the NFL, yeah, they're they're lower level 221 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: playoff team. I mean, I said, come into the season there, 222 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: they're an eight and eight team that could be two 223 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: could win ten games, good win six games, and that's 224 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: who they are. They squeaked out a few games here 225 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: and there. They lost a couple of in the years 226 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: that they should have won. So that's where that's where 227 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: you're back at You're a nine and four with a 228 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: nate talent overall death, I thought Terrell Augstin has had 229 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: a great last few games. They've been used a lot more, 230 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: a lot more schemes with three safeties, such and such. 231 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: So I think that the talent getting John dred Levy 232 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: back this week. He didn't play a ton early, but 233 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: you can see the difference in his tackling at the 234 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and the run defense. I think that's 235 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: gonna be big against the Cowboys and the Packers to 236 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 1: close out the season. I mean, okay, that's that's the 237 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: analysis side of whether or not we view them to 238 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: be a legitimate playoff team. Kevin, we've known you for 239 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: about half a decade now. You're one of the iciest, 240 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: most cynical fans out there, and I think that's because 241 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: you're realistic and you've been through utter hell. You've got 242 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: to be enjoying this. You've got one loss since October two. 243 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: How does it feel for you? Does this team just 244 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: get taken right off that pain rankings after this? Kevin? 245 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: Before you answer that question, just know that that is 246 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: one of the highest complimence market give anyone to call 247 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: you an icy cynical fan. You are, I am, I am. 248 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm purely aware of Mark's compliments, and I think it 249 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: has coppment. Frankly, I don't think. I didn't think it 250 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: as a shot at all, just because I don't think 251 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: West is wrong if your analysis of the upcoming schedule, 252 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean, as a lines fan, I've been waiting for 253 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: this for to fall off the cliff for the last 254 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: three weeks. To be honest with you, That's why I 255 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: thought the Saints win was so impressive and so huge 256 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: because if they lost that because I think this guy 257 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: would have fallen. Um. But the ways of Packers are playing, 258 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: having to go on the road, Matthew Stafford is a 259 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: different quarterback outside than he is in a dome. They 260 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: haven't played outside since the Week four loss against Chicago, 261 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: which is kind of ridiculous to think about. So I 262 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: think that team is huge, especially with his finger. We 263 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: don't know how much it's gonna affect. That's that big, 264 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: but that's big cold. How how do you you don't 265 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: know how it's gonna react after after after a week, 266 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: maybe rehab helps, maybe it stiffens up and he can't 267 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: throw in the cold you know, they don't want any 268 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: of that, They don't want to talk about it in Oakland. 269 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: But I I really do think that the finger for 270 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: Derek Carr played a big role in his struggles on 271 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: Thursday night. And now you have a middle finger injuries, 272 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: throwing with a glove whenever. You never want your quarterback 273 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: in those situations where he's putting the glove on and 274 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: they're talking about it on the sidelines and all that stuff. 275 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: So that is something big to watch. But Kevin, before 276 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: we say goodbye, just I know you're a cynical man, 277 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: but you were in Chicago when the Cubs ended ended 278 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: the end of their long drought. How about a little 279 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: magic run in Motown this year? Playoff wins. They've been 280 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: showing it that they could take take take victory from 281 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: the jaws of defeat. How about a little magic run 282 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: this season? How about that? How about the positive look 283 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: at it? You know, I was in l A when 284 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: the King's ended their drought, not as long I would. 285 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm here for the Cup. Maybe I should move home 286 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: back home to the end to the Lions can then 287 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: end their historic draft. How about just ending the not 288 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: having a home playoff game drought? It's been since before 289 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: that fans could even go to a playoff game. Let's 290 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: just do that. You gotta win probably one more game. 291 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: I think that Giants Game two three, and you're gonna 292 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: be the division winner most likely, but we shall see. Uh. 293 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick, how's your body by the way about he's 294 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: doing great? Yeah right now. It's the winter, so you're 295 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: it's more bulk right, Yep, yep, pull up, gotta do them. 296 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: Send me some private Jason Chickens climbing stairs. Matt Barkley, 297 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: by the way, has made some money, yes he had. 298 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: He has made a career. He's gonna be in the money. 299 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: But he's a lot of money. He's gonna be in 300 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: the eight ten more years. I'll probably get seven or 301 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: eight million next. It's great to be a backup quarterback. 302 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: You go out late season and in a loss, you 303 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: perform just a little bit above average for a couple 304 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: of weeks in a row, and you've extended your career 305 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: probably half a decade. He's better than a lot of backups, 306 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: to be fair. He got hose on the last drive. 307 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: He had been field goal range two separate, really nice 308 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: throws across the middle and got two holding calls that 309 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: just ripped the drive drops enough. I mean this Bears team, 310 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: I can't I can't watch him all right, Kevin, Uh, 311 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: we'll catch up with you later, buddy. Appreciate you guys. 312 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: Let's move on and check in in the a f 313 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: C and the defending Super Bowl champions. Simeon dropping, looking, popping, throwing, 314 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: got it complete to Derby is tight end, he lost 315 00:15:53,440 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: the bad the bass trips Titan. Derby made the Cats. 316 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: Williamson raked it out and the Titans have come up 317 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: with the recovery. Avery. That was Mike Keith of w 318 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: g f X. Avery Williamson sealed the game and the 319 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: Titans are tied for first place in the a f 320 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: C South after a thirteen ten win over the Denver Broncos. 321 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, We'll get to the Titans in just a 322 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: little bit, but let's start with the defending champs. Do 323 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: you think they're in serious stage or missing the playoffs 324 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: right now? WHOA? I don't. I think even their fans 325 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: would admit they're in serious danger of missing the playoffs. 326 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: They have a tough schedule remaining. This was a game 327 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: they had to win, and they have problems in the 328 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: run game on both sides of the ball. If they 329 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: missed the playoffs, they're gonna look back at the season 330 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: and they're gonna look forward to next season saying, how 331 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: do we fix our offensive line and rushing attack on offense, 332 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: and how do we plug our holes on defense? In 333 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: the running right, you look at the box score and 334 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotta completed six passes of twenty for eighty eight yards, 335 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: and you manage to lose? Was the game? I explained 336 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: it to me. I haven't. I didn't didn't see the game. 337 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: This wasn't a game for Let's see the first three 338 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: and a half quarters, at least almost well the first 339 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: three quarters. The fake punt from Riley Dixon was the 340 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: one thing that got the Broncos jump started. It happened 341 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: with four minutes to go in the third quarter, and 342 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: then Simeon hit to Marius Thomas and the two of 343 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: them connected for you know, the final twenty minutes of 344 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: the game. But the Titans ran all over the Broncos early, 345 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: uh and really should have jumped out to a twenty 346 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: point lead, but to Delaney Walker, red zone penalties cost 347 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: them seven points and Chris Harris got away with a 348 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: couple of past interferences in the end zone, but this 349 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: was all Titans in the first half. I mean, from 350 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: what I saw, this exactly what you said. It was 351 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: not a close game on any level. And I feel 352 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: like it's every single week we're looking at Denver's rushing 353 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: output and today two yards per carry and you've got 354 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: fifty one attempts from Trevor Simeon. This is the exact 355 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: opposite of what Gary Kubiak would want to do with 356 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: the first year starter. You want to pound the ball 357 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: with the run, control the game with your defense, and 358 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: have Simeon doing less. And it's game after game where 359 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: they're not able to run their offense the way they should. 360 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: Simeon is one of their best offensive players. I like Simeon, 361 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: but I mean, you can't get through the playoffs running 362 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: the ball for twenty yards thirty yards a gain. But 363 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: they are they are putting too much. They're asking him 364 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: to do too much and to save the season, and 365 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: that's not fair to the guy. When you're rushing for 366 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: eighteen yards in the game, nine carries, I mean, that's 367 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: ridiculous the numbers. And then your defense on the other end, 368 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: if you're not if you're not going to run the ball, 369 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: you better be as good as you were last year 370 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: and you give up a hundred and eight yards on 371 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: the ground, hundred sixty seven yards I think by thirty 372 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: two minutes into the game, by two minutes into the 373 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: second half, they had given up a hundred sixty seven 374 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: yards on the ground. And this five times they've allowed 375 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: a hundred forty or more yards on the ground. That 376 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: only happened once last year and it was in mid September. 377 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: They got better throughout this season, whereas this team, I 378 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: think the run defense has gotten worse throughout. What do 379 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: you think is a Titan? They scored thirteen points. It 380 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: needs to be pointed out whether they had some bad 381 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: breaks or not. If you can hold the team to 382 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: thirteen points on eleven drive, any flow the game dominant 383 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: the Broncos defense credit in this game. The Titans blew 384 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: too many opportunities and then like Mike mclarkey has want 385 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: to do, pulled his foot off the gas pedal. I 386 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: am not giving the Broncos credit for this For thirteen points, okay, 387 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean four point four yards per attempt. I'll watch it. 388 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm just saying they gave their team a chance to 389 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: win towards the end. They got the ball back right 390 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: at the end and Denny Fallard dropped the go ahead 391 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: touched him and the Titans have given up late leads. 392 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: The Broncos have come back, Like, if he catches that 393 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: go ahead touchdown, then we're singing a whole different story. 394 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: What do you think is at the core of a 395 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: run defense that's come apart here? Well, you the defensive 396 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: line isn't very good. I think last year Malik Jackson 397 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: was a very good player. Derek Wolf is a good player. 398 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: But now you've got Jared Krick Sylvester Williams are your 399 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: two best lineman maybe, and that's not very good. It's 400 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: crazy that they signed for set this week and he 401 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: comes in and is they're leading rush sure with seventeen 402 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: Except it's not crazy. I mean, for all of us 403 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: that have watched the Broncos, DeVante Booker is not a 404 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: lead back at this point. He's at best a complimentary piece. 405 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: It's not getting done a thirteen ten final. If somebody 406 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: would have told me that you were asking Trevor Simmons, 407 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: you throw it fifty one times in a thirteen ten game, 408 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: they're all out of whack right now, and if they 409 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: don't figure it out very soon, the season is going 410 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: to slip away. Miss Stanny Trevathan too. Yes, and here's 411 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: what's especially telling about that backfield. Justin for Sett took 412 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: over on passing down in his first game, and he's 413 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: been the least effective receiver out of the backfield of 414 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: any running back over the past car And I'm glad 415 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee won this game. By the way, they got tough 416 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: schedule coming up, but they now have a nice little 417 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: path to win this ANFC South and make the playoffs 418 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: more interested. And go Titans. Let's check out some other 419 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: action in the a f C South. Here we go. 420 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: The Colts have to get a yard here to keep 421 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: this game going. Walk out of the gun. He's gonna 422 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: throw it dropping now, moving to his right, drawing and 423 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: his incomplete At the last I could he just tried 424 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: to flip it underneath to Robert Robert Turban And now 425 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: the Texians can go down to a knee and win 426 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: this game on the road. Come back to us called 427 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: Brandon god in Westwood one Sports. The Texans aren't dead yet. 428 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: Houston rolled up a hundred and eighty five yards on 429 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: the ground and got the big stop in the final 430 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: minutes uh to preserve a twenty two to seventeen road 431 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: win over the Colts, who looked like a very different 432 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: team on Monday night against the Jets. Greg It was 433 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: another underwhelming performance by Brock Osweiler, but the Texans survived 434 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: in a big spot. They somehow have this formula and 435 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: it might actually get them to the playoffs that that 436 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: they can make enough defensive plays and Lamar Miller can 437 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: have a big day and the entire running game can 438 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: win to win this lousy division. I mean, Brandon McKinney 439 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: breaks up that screen pass at the end. He's played 440 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: well year. Jadavian Clowney had another big time game, forced fumble, sack, 441 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: fumble in the red zone, had another big play on 442 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: one of Andrew Luck's interceptions, you know, caused a penalty. 443 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: That's all great, Whitney Merciless is great, but these are 444 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: two bad teams. I watched this game and I just 445 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: thought neither of these teams deserved to be in the playoffs. 446 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: I don't think either one of them really played great 447 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and it was just a really disappointing sloppy 448 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: effort from the Courts. So is this I feel like 449 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: the the a f C South and a lot of 450 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: teams are just a week to week proposition for the 451 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: most part. But is this a tremendous indictment of a 452 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: Jets team that potentially just did not try on Monday 453 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: Night football? I'm asking because coming out of Monday Night Football, 454 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: the Colts to me looked like a team that wanted 455 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: to win this division, that it discovered itself. We talked 456 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: about him on Tuesday as a team coming into its 457 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: own six days later. You get this right, the every 458 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: all these teams in the a f C South, I 459 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: include the Titans, They're They're a bad six and seven team. 460 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: The Texans are bad seven six. They deserve credit. But 461 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: the problems that the Colts have had throughout the year 462 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: in terms of their offensive line, Andrew luck I hit 463 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: thirteen times. In terms of their lack of wide receiver depth, 464 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: Dante Moncrief went out with an injury. He's been hurt 465 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: a lot this year. Dorset comes in, gets targeted eight times, 466 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: they get nineteen yards on those eight he had his ball, 467 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: has had his ball, you know, hands on the ball, 468 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: and three of those. You could call him drops, you 469 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: could call him, you know, tough catches whatever. And Andrew 470 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: Luck didn't play a good game, you know, he said 471 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: he was disappointed himself. Only one of the three turnovers 472 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: were on him, but he misspasses anyways, Dorsett has been 473 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: a debilitating draft pick for the franchise that needed offensive 474 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: lineman and pass rushers went with a wide receiver and 475 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: he just doesn't make place and you just see penalties 476 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 1: and you see situations like on Clowney's sack fumble. Uh, 477 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: they had Dwayne Allen, you know, just blocking him one 478 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: on one and the Aspagano and he's just like that 479 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: was the protection scheme for that play. And it's just 480 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: stuff like that that happens where it's not a clean team, 481 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: not good coaching. This Texans team really depresses me. And 482 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: I think it's fitting that West of Us started because 483 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: it was the week every year with the Texans hand 484 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals. They're playoff the feet, so I think it's 485 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: only fitting that they could be a surrogate for the Bengals. 486 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: Oh they are. Now the Titans are playing them in 487 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: Week seventeen, and now the Colts are in really deep trouble. 488 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: They they're just about out of it. And if the 489 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: Titans can just take care of business against Houston, get 490 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: the Titans, all right, But you are you're you're a glow. 491 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: How excited are you about this division in general? I mean, 492 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: it's it's just I like the Titans want a better 493 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 1: I just want a better playoff game, is all Brocko Swidler, 494 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: by the way, it's it's what's worth doing. Terrible game, 495 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: but he did make two or three throws on a 496 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: key fourth down drive that essentially helps salt this game away. 497 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: His best two or three throws of the day, if 498 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: you only. He also had the ultimate uh uh play 499 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: where where that sound drop was fitting, where he puts 500 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: his head over his hands after an interception just because 501 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 1: he's just good. All pro quarterbacks don't make that hand gesture. Uh. 502 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: Let's there is one more team in the ANC South, 503 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: and they took on the team of a t L 504 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: Bradford's under center play action, Sam rolls out to the 505 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: right looking for Allison No. He throws the Rudolph touchdown 506 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: Prodford to Kyle Rudolph and the Vikings are taking lead. 507 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: And for Kyle Rudolph that is his twenty eight touchdown 508 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: as a Viking. How exciting, uh that is? Paul Allen 509 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: of k f A and the The Team of A 510 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: t L showed a pulse on Sunday, rolling up over 511 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: four under yards of total offense win over um the 512 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. WHOA this one? I locked it up? Alright? 513 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: The one man still supporting the team of Lollipop WOA. 514 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: For those listening on the podcast, Dan just handed me 515 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: a lollipot lollipop right there, said to us by the 516 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: listeners who have been shipping hundreds of lollipops. They got 517 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: a lollipop. So you got a lollipop. You know, take 518 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: to win, you getting needed to win. You need to 519 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: stay in the mix. You got you got the game done. 520 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: You got it done. But you know you don't get 521 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: excited about this. People say, well, you know you don't. 522 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: You don't get a lollipop for beating the Jaguars. Everyone 523 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: beats the Jagguars. You know, Well that's true. Well that 524 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: is seven straight losses for the Jaguars. Well that's fair. 525 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: They're the Vikings offense had their best day of this season. 526 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: So you're if you really after that early start, absolutely 527 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: most yards all season. Their play inside the three yard 528 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: line was embarrassing the fact that I could say this 529 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: was their best offensive day of this season. It was 530 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: the most yards they had. They basically went up and 531 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: down the field on Jacksonville. They had three plays over 532 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: forty yards. If you just watched this game, you wouldn't 533 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: think that this is an inbalanced team. You would have thought, 534 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: you know what, the defense gave up some drives there 535 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: to blake borders. Look, I'm not giving up on this team. 536 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: I tried to get the group excited the no on 537 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: even what we've learned so far as broadcast is that 538 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: you couldn't be more the patron saint of seven and 539 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: six teams have nowhere. That's fine, and you're it's a 540 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: nice win. If they had ever lost this game, what 541 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: would we be saying about Minnesota. You gotta go in 542 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: and take care of this. What's shameful is getting excited 543 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: about any Jaguars game, whether you win or lose. Well, 544 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: what's shapeful is locking up a game involving a two 545 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: and eleven team. But it's a whole another discussion. You know, 546 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: we were we were doing huzzas over when we swept 547 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: four games with half of those teams were like favorite, 548 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: nice job, new Money, I love it, New Bunny. All 549 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying is you saw some nice things out of 550 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: the offense, the defense without Harrison Smith. That's a big, 551 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: big time. Let me ask you a question. You got 552 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: the Cults, which, okay, the Colts flat out had the 553 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: potential to stink. But then you play the Packers and 554 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: the Bears. If you're the Vikings playoff team, I think 555 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: they can get to nine wins. Before today, I thought 556 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: that would have had a better chance to make the 557 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: playoffs than I do now. Even if they win two 558 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: of those three, I don't think nine wins is going 559 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: to get you in here. They're gonna horrifically blow another 560 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: game one more that they have no business losing, that 561 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: they find a way to lose through add special that 562 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: should have happened today they had. They had two different 563 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: times that they were inside the three yard line that 564 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: they didn't score a point, two different times. Because the 565 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: running game is so bad, Let's talk about the best 566 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: player in the NFL. In Week fourteen, third and two 567 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: with the three better the shotgun Bill show, butch and 568 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: he handsled off and here's Bell down to the gold line. 569 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: Did he get in Toutstown pets Burg play for life 570 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: on here's fourth rushing touchdown and their Steelers punching in. 571 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: He would have two more in this game. That is 572 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: Bill hill Grove of w d V. My goodness, Levy 573 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: on Bell was a monster on Sunday, collecting two d 574 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: and nine total yards from scrimmage and on forty two touches, 575 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: literally carrying the Steelers to seven to twenty win over 576 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. That new aras whoa to the saysler, Mark, 577 00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:01,239 Speaker 1: there's no meat in this here's a lollipop. Gradually, uh 578 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: Mark Pittsburgh one on a day in which Ben Roethlisberger 579 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: through three picks and no touchdowns. But what does this 580 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: tell you about the Steelers, Well, it tells me how 581 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: versatile they are when they we we said last week 582 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna get into these games the good Steelers or 583 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: the bad Steelers. This is the good Steelers. A. The 584 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: defense played a great game. Number one. I think the 585 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: defense is something we don't talk about a lot with Pittsburgh. 586 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: But they played on the road in the snow and 587 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: one of their better games. Secondly, they came out throwing 588 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: the ball. I thought that they the game plan was 589 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: to be to air it out against Buffalo Secondary, which 590 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: has given up a lot of big players this year 591 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: all day long. Hundred and fifty yards or big Ben 592 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: about a quarter in, and it looked like that was 593 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: the way it's gonna go. Then when the turnovers came, 594 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: you know, big Ben through three, like you said at 595 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: the when the second one hit and it had taken 596 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: more points away from Pittsburgh, they seemed to shift to 597 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: a let's make Levy on Bell the beginning and the 598 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: end of this offense for the rest of this game 599 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: and two hundred and thirty six yards rushing a franchise record. 600 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: I grew up hating the Pittsburgh Steelers. They were an 601 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: absolute joy to watch today because the way that Levy 602 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: on Bell well, because you know, you there's a lot 603 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 1: of stuff that happens every week, and there's so much 604 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: stuff thrown in your face over the course of a 605 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: Sunday that it's easy to become desensitized to all sorts 606 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: of highlights and big plays and happenings. Impossible to watch 607 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: this game and not be mesmerized by Levy on Bell 608 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: what he did. And you know, I wrote a column 609 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: last week and I was getting killed by it for 610 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: saying that the Steelers were much higher in terms of 611 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: a f C playoff potential teams we could trust over 612 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: teams like the Chiefs and others. And I understand the 613 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: whole Chiefs thing. Good for them. They're plowing up on 614 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: Twitter just fan bases, and I get it. You're gonna 615 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: be when the Steelers are playing the way they can 616 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: on offense, they can take down anyone in the a 617 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: f C. They gotta show they can do it. In January. 618 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: West is the best running back in football. Well you 619 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: have to put him up with David Johnson and Ezekiel Elliott. 620 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean it changes every week. Zek elliotts in the 621 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: MVP discussion and David Johnson is I think Bell could 622 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: you know if you didn't miss the three games, which 623 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: is a big f then he to me would be 624 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: right there in the MV. I think he's already going 625 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: to be there if you put Tom Brady and you're 626 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: putting he is getting more yards per scrimmage per game. 627 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: Before this week when he just put up to ninety, 628 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: then he was in the top you know, ten to 629 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: fifteen of all time with that savage in a hundred 630 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: and sixty one yards. That's the first ten games of 631 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: his season, which is the highest total since Jim Brown 632 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: in ninth. That's right. Tricks put him up there with 633 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: Jim Brown. He's in a category of people that over 634 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: the current course of the first thirty games, puts him 635 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: up there with Edge, James, Eric Dickerson, Marcus Allen, Arian Foster. 636 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: It's all that's say you gotta be careful about forty 637 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: two touches. That's the type of thing that that that 638 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: ruined season, that that hurts players, and it's been it's 639 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: been week after week. Two is outrageous. My favorite metric 640 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: is four seasons I've now sit as us from Mark 641 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: on Sundays, and that was the most outbursts of unbridled 642 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: joy that one player has inspired in a Sunday afternoon. 643 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: You and at least four outbursts where you were yelling 644 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: about LEVI first left burst. I have. I have a 645 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: theory that you have and you've said it, and I 646 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: believe that you've detached from the Browns and it's freed 647 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: you up on Sundays to experience joy while watching football. 648 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there's something else you can do with with 649 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: the Cleveland situation, but Pittsburgh also, I see great potential 650 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: in them and they It's like there's so many teams 651 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: that are so middle of the road and milk toasts 652 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: and dull to me right now that it's fun to 653 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: watch it go out and dominate all these seven and 654 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: six teams that we're getting over excited about your bills. 655 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: On the other side, um, let's hear from Rex Ryan, 656 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: who before this game even started, UH, their reports surfaced 657 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: and two different outlets that his job was in such 658 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: jeopardy that he could lose it as soon as Monday. 659 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: You could be listening to this and Rex Ryant could 660 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: be fired possibly, but that he is in grave danger 661 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: of his bill's career ending. Let's hear what he had 662 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: to say when asked directly about that. The first I've 663 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: heard about a rumor about it or whatever. Why I 664 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: never didn't tell you guys, just said something, so that'll 665 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: probably tell you that's who it is. I don't believe 666 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: that at all. I think Rex obviously was plugged in 667 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: when all this stuff was flying around this morning. But 668 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess, I guess Greg that that Ryan 669 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: is is done no matter what happens here, because it 670 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: sounds like there's more going on buying the scenes that 671 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: we than we know about. Well, very hot, but you 672 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: would think so you would think whoever's telling this two 673 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: these reporters has an agenda, and maybe that person is 674 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: closer to the top of the food chain there in 675 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: Buffalo than Rex's. That there's some sort of internal talking 676 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: about Doug Waley. I don't know, or it's just ownership. 677 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: Who knows that that there's some sort of discord. It 678 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't be the first coach that have discord with Doug Waley, 679 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: not at all. I talked to someone who knows. Maybe 680 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: they both get clean now if they if they lose 681 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: three straight, you know, it's a long way to go, though. 682 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: I tuk somebody at the Super Bowl last year that 683 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 1: was close to the situation that said Rex was all 684 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: but done last year and they had a late reprieve 685 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: changing their mind. So he was. There was a lot 686 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: of bad blood last year, and he's not doing enough. 687 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: Apparently here's one. I mean, so they've got the Browns 688 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: and Jets and Dolphins and Dolphins Ryan Tannehill. So i 689 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm typically anti Rex Ryan for various reasons, But I 690 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: don't think that that he's been the main problem. I do, though, 691 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: look at a defense that got absolutely wiped away by 692 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: the Raiders in the second half, and then today it's 693 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: they were out gained about four hundred and sixty yards 694 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: to two hundred and twenty eight. It'sburg just had its way. 695 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: We see this with new ownership a lot. You know, 696 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: their first higher lasts about a year or two, and 697 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: then they get antsie and they want to make a 698 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: new change. You mentioned Ryan Tannehill. It's check in on 699 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins floor. Gets rid of a Dolphins still. 700 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: He's got there's a fly down and he's can't side 701 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: the two. The value of an experienced backup quarterback, you 702 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: knew where to go with it. That was Matt Moore 703 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: with the pass, and we'll get to that in a minute. 704 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: Chris Meyers of Fox with the call there that Kenny 705 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: Still's reception set the stage for the clinching field goal 706 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: in a twenty three Dolphins win over the Cardinal Oh 707 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: you know I had this, No, no, you could have 708 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: it up. Dare I? Dare you? I I thought I 709 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: thought perhaps the Cardinals would steal this. They wiped away 710 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: in late deficit. But um, this is ultimately a pyric 711 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: victory for the Dolphins school who lost who likely lost 712 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill for the season with a knee injury that 713 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: rap Sheet reports is believed to be a torn a 714 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: c l Uh. It came out of play where class 715 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: Campbell uh kind of went in low and got Tannehill 716 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 1: in the lower leg area. And there was a sad 717 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: moment on the sideline this in the four quarters the 718 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals were making their comeback where Tannehill, now in street clothes, 719 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: was holding back tears and wiping his eyes as different 720 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: teammates were coming up to them, and I believe he 721 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: was telling them the news, and uh, everyone was kind 722 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: of reacting in real time. It was kind of a 723 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: crazy moment for a team that now is eight and 724 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: five and in good playoff positioning, but barring some type 725 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: of miracle in the uh, you know, any type of 726 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: testing follow up goes with Matt Moore the rest of 727 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: the way west and what does that mean for the Dolphins. 728 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: Matt Moore to me, I hold in the same regard 729 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: as Sean Hill. Guys that the last time you saw 730 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: them play in the regular season was like two thousand eleven, 731 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: and they held their own. And when you see them 732 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: now in the preseason or spotty play in the regular season, 733 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: they look like their body just isn't there anymore to handle. 734 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: Growing thirty or forty passes a game like a car 735 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: sitting in a driveway for five years. It's not He's not, 736 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: you know, in if if you want to make the case, 737 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: we're not as old. Thirty two years old not too 738 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: old for a quarterback. Also not very good for a quarterback. 739 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean he was never a stud. I mean he 740 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: had his moments. He's okay, he's a perfectly adequate quarterback. 741 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: But West is right. He has basically got into mothballs 742 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: now because Tagnhill has been fairly um you know, as 743 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: missed a game's been very terrible. But now, all of 744 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: a sudden, you throw Matt Moore into the middle of 745 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: a playoff chase in December. I don't like my name's chances. 746 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: I don't think you should like their chances. You can. 747 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: This was a slop fest game. It's hard to take 748 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: a lot from it. One thing you can take is 749 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: that Miami's defensive line, which was invisible last week, pushed 750 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: around an Arizona offensive line that is injury ravaged and 751 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: has been a liability all year. So you can if 752 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: you're a Dolphins team, if a Dolphins fan, you can say, look, 753 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: that was a promising game from our defense, but you 754 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: have to be concerned about the quarter. Well, here's what 755 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: I think a Matt Moore led team could do is 756 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: beat a Bryce Petty led team or potentially beat this 757 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 1: Bill's team. So while they're this team, ceiling was always 758 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: fairly low, and terms of playoff run, you know, I 759 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: think they're there. They still have a chance there to 760 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: win those two games, and that probably gets you in 761 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs, but that gets you think Matt more necessarily 762 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: kills you, assuming that you get wiped out in Week 763 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: seventeen against the Patriots, who probably will still be fighting 764 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: for that number one seed in the in the in 765 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: the regular season finale, that gets you to ten and six, 766 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: and there are ten and six teams that don't get 767 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. That happens every year. But but if 768 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: you're a Dolphins fan, what it's it's got your emotions 769 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: to be this. You lost your starting quarterback and you 770 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: may get into the playoffs. Let's face it, though, right 771 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: you said, you know, it's not the end of it's 772 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: over there. They're done. Because even if they do somehow 773 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: get into the playoffs, if they had Tannehill, I don't 774 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: think to do anything. Yeah, probably not, but at least 775 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: you kind of maybe something magical happens with Hannahill. The 776 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: light goes on and stays on for all tens of purposes. 777 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: Their season ended. That's fair, that's fair. I mean if 778 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: they go ten in six playoffs are not. This season 779 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: looked utterly lost from Miami a few mon spect So 780 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: you have to say first year Adam Gaze, nice job, 781 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 1: and so much for our one week excitement over the 782 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals where maybe they could have made a run. Here 783 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: they're leading the team we've forked like two weeks ago, 784 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: the leading tsunami of this game. It was kind of 785 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: a sloppy, weird game. I'm wondering, by the way, now 786 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: leading wide receiver at eighteen yards? Yeah is what are 787 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: what are where the Cardinals at? Now five seven and one. 788 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: We don't want to get stuck on this topic too long, 789 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: but five seven one, three more turnovers for Carson Palmer 790 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: today again bad weather conditions, but they have to figure 791 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: out what their what their situation. Is he done? West? No? 792 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: And I'm surprised by how many people are assuming he's 793 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: done or that he's gonna retire, not retire, but is 794 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: he in harsh decline? Now at this stage? Do you 795 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: think I think his there's nothing wrong with his arm. 796 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 1: I think he's throwing as strong as he ever has. 797 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: His pocket movement is not as strong as it was 798 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: last year, and that's highlighted by an offensive mind and 799 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: an offense that still asked him to take seven strap 800 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: step drops and hold the ball. And that's the way 801 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: we played great over the last three weeks. I really 802 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: believe that. Why don't go ahead, Ah, I was just 803 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: gonna say, that's the way arians runs his offense, and 804 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: he's not gonna change it, even if he has a 805 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: bad offensive line. So you're gonna have a bad season, 806 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 1: all right, Let's move on and check in. Check in 807 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: on an NFC. Uh maybe the two thousand seventeen team 808 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: of a t L You never know. Breeze drops back 809 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: to pass, throws left and it's intercepted. That's the ball game. 810 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: He Sandy with a second interception of the year. It's 811 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: the third interception for Brees today. And the bucket ears, 812 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: what's fifty one seconds left to play in the fourth quarter? 813 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: We'll just have a victory formation. Whoa Tom McCarthy Westwood 814 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: won sports? Should we put that one into consideration for 815 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: the top ten cause of the year. I mean it's nice, No, 816 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: didn't stand out. The Bucks keep surging. This time they 817 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: leaned hard in their defense to secure a sixteen to 818 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: a let and win, uh, their fifth straight. This is 819 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: the first time, so it's two thousand two that Tampa 820 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: Bay has won five straight. And we all know how 821 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: that what happened that year, right, Mark? Absolutely what happened, Mark. 822 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: Lots of good things happened for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 823 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 1: that year, specifically a Super Bowl victory. All right, Mark, 824 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't even listening to That's like all the West 825 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: not the only story it around here. Way to go, Mark. 826 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: The ceiling probably isn't that high for this Bucks team, 827 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: but they just might be the sneaky team nobody wants 828 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: to play if they can extend their season in January. 829 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 1: I think it's incredibly sneaky that Mark Cecil was assigned 830 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 1: to a game that involved to Greg Rosenthal pet teams. 831 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: But I'll try to get a point out here before 832 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: Greg jumps in, I will tell you one thing. I 833 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: can just see Greg salivating to discuss this game. Typically though, 834 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: when we do talk about the Bucks, it starts with 835 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. It's the opposite today. You know, they started 836 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: out well on offense, but it is the second week 837 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: in a row. That's safety Keith Tandy game winning pick. 838 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: It seems like no matter what the week is, someone 839 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 1: new is stepping up for this defense. There isn't a 840 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: real weakness for a unit that Mike Smith A lot 841 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: of jokes made about Mike Smith in the studio in 842 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: the past since made ten twelve point three points per 843 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,919 Speaker 1: game allowed by the Bucks, which I think that makes 844 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: them more of a serious threat to teams then necessarily 845 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: what's happening on offense, which I think a lot of 846 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: what happens with the Bucks offense is a little bit 847 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: of smoke and mirrors behind a very talented quarterback. Their 848 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: run game is not especially strong. They couldn't take this 849 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: game away from the Saints when they needed to today 850 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: on offense. That said, I mean this was a we 851 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: watched this Greg down the stretch. It is a strange game. 852 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: And if we want to get into it later. There 853 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: was a very strange way to end the first half. 854 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: But give me your thoughts. These are your two teams. 855 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: Your two teams, give me your thoughts. Well, they're the 856 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: NFC's Chiefs, and they beat the Chiefs in Kansas City. 857 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: They do it with it's a it's a tough formula 858 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: every week to just win with the turnover margin. But 859 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 1: that's what they do every week, and that's Mike Smiths 860 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: old formula and it's working. Kwan Alexander and Lavonte David 861 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 1: and Noah Spence and Hardgraves, the rookie. They're they're playing 862 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: good team defense. And you said it. Getting enough out 863 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 1: of Winston. It seems like a lot of random plays 864 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: where he's just kind of running around or throwing it 865 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: up for Evans, Cameron. Brad's having a really good year, 866 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: but it's mostly the defense. One of my favorite Mike 867 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: Lombardi isms is you're one or two injuries away from 868 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: being a good team. The Buccaneers are a better team 869 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: with Keith Tandy and they're starting lineup to Chris content. 870 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: I was so impressed with his interception last week. He 871 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: basically ran the route for the wide receiver and showed 872 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: great ball skills in that play. It's the exact same 873 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: thing that this week to to close out the game, 874 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: and Breeze, by the way, ended up with no touchdowns, 875 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: three interceptions back to back week's first quarterback to do 876 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: that since Tyler palco he go, he got some serious 877 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: steak on him when I put him in the m 878 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: v P race. That didn't help. I think that might 879 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: have played kiss of death by the way, mark, how 880 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: how would where is it possible? Let me put it 881 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: this way, that you can always set up any analysis 882 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: going forward by taking a shot at Greg and then 883 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: throwing it to him in a kind of It was 884 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: not you know, looking back, it probably looks like a 885 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 1: shot at Greg. It's just that I found it funny 886 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: that you know these have been It's like if Greg 887 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: recovering like a Brown's verse Browns game, why would he be? 888 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 1: Why was I assigned to this game? I can't put 889 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 1: my head around it, but I quite enjoyed watching it. 890 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: You know what, I got Steelers bills earlier, but this 891 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: late it was a good day. Greg did a good job. 892 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: They're staying out of the way long enough to let 893 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: you get your points out before he jumped in. I mean, 894 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: I was quick to set the table because I could 895 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: feel it coming. It was like an air ridgible coming 896 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: out in my head. It was gonna explode all over me. 897 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: Just you know, I needed to hand it over to Gregg. 898 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: He did an excellent job with this analysis. He's a 899 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: prep and the and there's a prep here is that 900 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: I hadn't even brought up yet, the whole sandwich factor 901 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: of two teams getting from the NFC soun and one 902 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 1: of them and this is to look good. Well, they're 903 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: tied with the Falcons right now that I thought was 904 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: gonna run away with this division Falcons. You say like that, 905 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: it's called a transition. That's a pro at the top 906 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: of his game, said you and got three steps, looks 907 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 1: to the right and it's intercepted. Dion Jones keeps his 908 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: feet ten five touchdown for debot. Pick six for Dion Jones. Wait, 909 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: I thought James Harrison was debot. Listen these things. Well, 910 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: when you're debot and then you're still in the league 911 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: and you're forty eight, there're gonna be another They're gonna 912 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: be more debots. That's fair. You know, these nicknames sometimes 913 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: like Alex Keegan has had a Rod lockdown, you think, 914 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,879 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Aaron Rodgers people calling 915 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: him a Rod. Nobody calls him a right. I mean, 916 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: what are we doing here? He's capital a lowercase a 917 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: dash Rod, So it's different anyway. I get healthy game 918 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: for the Falcons, who had no problem whatsoever with the 919 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 1: lifeless Rams and A forty two were team win at 920 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: the Coliseum Atlanta, now eight and five had two defensive 921 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: touchdowns in this game, once again showing they can still 922 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 1: win and dominate without Julio Jones Greg Rosenthal. The Falcons 923 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,439 Speaker 1: took care of business and may have put Jeff Fisher 924 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 1: on even thinner ice while doing it. Fisher should be 925 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: in trouble. This game was preposterous, maybe the most embarrassing 926 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: home for ye wow, if any team any right, the 927 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: first play of the game, they fumbled the kickoff. The 928 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: second play of the game was a touchdown for the Falcons. 929 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's so confusing. The play by play still 930 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: hasn't figured out how to even set that up already, 931 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: because you don't even know what's happening. I mean, you've 932 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: got Todd Gurley yelling at Jared Goff you've got defensive touchdowns, 933 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: You've got dropped passes from the Rams. You've got a 934 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: forty two to nothing scoring Matt Ryan out of the 935 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: game after three quarters in a game that there's no 936 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,839 Speaker 1: Julio or snow. I mean, how could it get worse? 937 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: Your paramore, big Rams fans, we said on the show 938 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: before actually got to go to this game. Poor girl. Yeah, 939 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: for some reason, she was a little bit excited for 940 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: the game. I mean, I can understand being excited for tailgating, Yeah, 941 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: but to go to a Rams game and hope they're 942 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna show up. Not not in the Jared goff Era. 943 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's funny that she. I mean, 944 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,839 Speaker 1: he has a chance, but he wasn't ready to play 945 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: when they put him in there. He's not ready to 946 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,439 Speaker 1: play now, and they're a joke and the defense wasn't 947 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,359 Speaker 1: much better. She won the tickets through her employer, thanks 948 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: a lot employer. Yeah. That that is the That is 949 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 1: the machine keeping the man down in this case of 950 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: the woman, I mean the reminder that don't venture outside 951 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: this world to enjoy our product. Get back in the 952 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: buildings and seats. The Rams ran a quarterback option with 953 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: two minutes left in this game in which at the 954 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: goal line, in which Jared goff you know, rushed it in, 955 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: was not aware of the defender. It's a huge shot 956 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: to the ribs where it looks like he could have 957 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: gotten hurt. The scores forty two to seven, and then 958 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: fireworks go off in the stadium and it's forty two 959 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: to seven on purpose, Yeah it was. It was the 960 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: Rams fireworks. I am now, we just got our quarterback 961 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: killed in a totally meaningless situation. Let's let off some fireworks. 962 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm not writing Jared goff off, but this coaching staff 963 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 1: has not developed him. He's not ready to play, and well, 964 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,800 Speaker 1: I think we have to wait for the next coaching 965 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,839 Speaker 1: staff to get something out of him. I don't think 966 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: there's any debate. They're a much worse team with Jared 967 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: goff than they were with caves Keenum. Let's um give 968 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: a little up to Vic Beasley for the team that 969 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll be playing in January. Here. Up to thirteen 970 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: sacks after three on the day. Up to seven forced fumbles. 971 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,919 Speaker 1: That's an outrageous number of forced fumbles. I mean, he's leading, 972 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: I believe in both categories. And to West's point, You 973 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: can look up and down the Rams roster, look at 974 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: offensive players that were trapped did highly that have not 975 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 1: developed into anything, and it goes back to the coaching staff. 976 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 1: Flip side the Falcons. For how many years have we 977 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: said you've got to draft and find a young pass rusher. 978 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: Couldn't do it. You bring in Dan Quinn and you 979 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: get Vic Beasley. Coaching changes. Not that we're pushing for this, 980 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: but it's that when you're not developing young players. I 981 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,879 Speaker 1: don't I can't think of a worse reason to keep 982 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 1: a coaching staff around when you see young talent not 983 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 1: growing into something more than they should. I thought Vick 984 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: Beasley had the quickest first step in the league as 985 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,959 Speaker 1: a rookie last year. He wasn't strong and he didn't 986 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: have all the moves. Dwight Freeney has probably helped with 987 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: him and the Falcons. They have a major edge on 988 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers for this reason. Next week, the Buccaneers are 989 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: at Dallas, the Falcons host San Francisco, and then they 990 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 1: both play the Panthers and Saints in the final two weeks. 991 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: There we go, that could be the difference maker next week. Uh, 992 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: let's move on check in what's going on in the 993 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: NFC East up by five, looking to hold on for 994 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,320 Speaker 1: a win? Here back to pass they hate it is loose. 995 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: Now the Redskins gonna pick it up. It is Trent 996 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: Murphrey with it at the thirty three yard line, and 997 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. That's gonna do it. The show 998 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: stop where Ryan Kerrigan got to him, Larry Michael, That's 999 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,399 Speaker 1: where Nickney ever I went about blunt force trauma. Larry 1000 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 1: Larry Michael and Sunny Jarginson a W T. E. M. 1001 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: The Eagles made them earn it, but the Redskins kept 1002 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: their playoff hopes alive with a twenty two win in Philly. 1003 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: With that late stand. De Sean Jackson had a hundred 1004 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: and two yards and three catches, including an eight yard 1005 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: hookup that represented the biggest play in an up and 1006 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 1: down afternoon for Kirk Cousins. The Redskins. They break a 1007 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,760 Speaker 1: two game losing streak. Now seven five and one, gentlemen, 1008 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: and here's their finish at home against Panthers. West wind 1009 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: lost me here home against Panthers eight five and one 1010 00:50:55,120 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: at Bears, when nine five and one verse Giants, when ten, 1011 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 1: well you have the table. Uh ten five and one. 1012 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: We gration West Skins. You've made the playoffs the West 1013 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 1: West season on a four game streak. I mean, how 1014 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: was an important win? You can't dream up a better 1015 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 1: schedule than that. That's nice. People still think the Giants 1016 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 1: are a playoff team and they have the one of 1017 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,240 Speaker 1: the worst offenses in the NFL. Also has the Giants 1018 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: picking third in the draft. So you know that. I mean, 1019 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: I I agree with you, as tell me where I 1020 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: I do love that you included an eight and four 1021 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: team on the best possible schedule you could come up. 1022 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you could throw the Browns in instead of 1023 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,399 Speaker 1: the Giants. Also, just to pull back the curtain here, 1024 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,879 Speaker 1: it's in the second quarter of the Sunday night game 1025 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: West hanging a little onion here, just assuming the Giants 1026 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 1: will currently down seven nothing, I've seen the Giants offense 1027 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 1: for the past month. I feel pretty good about this. Yeah, well, 1028 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 1: well we'll get to the Giants, but for now, the 1029 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: Redskins with a big win, really a tough one, and 1030 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: I thought, um, I thought the showed a little bit 1031 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: of moxie. I'm surprised by how much I can continue 1032 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 1: to hear talk about this was a big, big performance 1033 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: by Kirk Cousins, who really needs to convince management that 1034 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,359 Speaker 1: he's are we passed that at this point he's gonna 1035 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: get paid by the Redskins, right, I'd be surprised if 1036 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: he didn't, but for one large reason, like what what's 1037 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,959 Speaker 1: your other options? Quarterback? I mean, you're gonna he's also 1038 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks paid, right, and he's he's also it's not just 1039 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: your backing into Kirk Cousins. He's shown incredible progress and 1040 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 1: fit for for for Jake Rudin. One thing, uh, kind 1041 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,800 Speaker 1: of like the little unique nugget of this game happened 1042 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: with the long time long snapper for the Eagles, who 1043 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's had a very nice career and I 1044 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: wish I remembered his name, but John, Yes, that's him, Dorinbose. 1045 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: He suffered a wrist injury, left the game. Uh. He 1046 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: was then replaced um uh for exactly one snap another 1047 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: risk injury to his replacement uh, and it led to 1048 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,959 Speaker 1: a third string guy long snapping who got the snap 1049 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: down for a long field goal that put the Eagles 1050 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: ahead temporarily. So that was that was a bizarre moment 1051 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: in this game. John Dorrin Boss was involved you. Brent 1052 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 1: Selick tried, he also got hurt, and then Donnie Jones 1053 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: Um Finally, but question for Mark, Yes, a couple of 1054 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: weeks ago, for it seemed like for about a month 1055 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: long stretch, you were very bullish on the Redskins. Yes. 1056 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: Are you still as bullish on them now? I think 1057 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: that they you have to look at them as a 1058 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 1: team that could disappoint you any week. But I do. 1059 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: I do think they're gonna make the playoffs. We just 1060 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: talked about their schedule and there's a nugget here, and 1061 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 1: this is something that I've liked about the Redskins last 1062 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: two seasons. It goes to Bill Callaghan. Conroy wrote this 1063 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: up and talked about sometimes when the Redskins get hot 1064 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 1: in the ground game, the way that they designed blocking 1065 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: schemes and the way they run the ball. Ties back 1066 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 1: to Bill Callahan and the coaching and you mentioned the 1067 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: Colts and it's the polar opposite with the Colts where 1068 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,720 Speaker 1: you asked Ryan Grigson, are you asked the coaching staff 1069 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 1: what happened on this play? I mean, I do think 1070 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 1: that the Redskins have a good coaching staff. I think 1071 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 1: that they've got some the requisite amount of explosive players 1072 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: and a ground game that shows up enough to give 1073 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 1: you a real chance to win a playoff game. When 1074 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 1: they when they lost to Dallas on Thanksgiving, the first 1075 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 1: thing I thought was, I want to see these two 1076 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: teams play again. I'm not sure they're that team, but 1077 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 1: the d N A, the DNA is there to do 1078 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 1: something in January. If it goes right, ten QB hits 1079 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: today and they play three bad offensive lines coming up, 1080 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 1: if they can just keep the pressure on, that's enough. 1081 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: They just gotta be okay. I feel like their their 1082 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: pass rush is really steadily improved throughout the season. Well 1083 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: you got the show stuff, show stop by, Let's move on, 1084 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: And now an actual promo from a real life CBS 1085 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 1: program that millions of humans watch. The woman is trapped 1086 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 1: in her car at the bottom of brand tarpetmember a 1087 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: short breath, she runs out of oxygen. I'm going to 1088 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: go down. Their guitar is going to play threatening burns. 1089 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: It's me or she dies. Drop bottle of bits, scorpions. 1090 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: Four receivers in the pattern. Now told joins him. Here's 1091 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 1: the car Land's own cock, Devin fun just touchdown, Carolina, 1092 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: your mouth hurts you didn't check your mouth hurt it 1093 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 1: because that was a beautiful catch back to back whackiest soundclips. 1094 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: Are we really even ready to get to the game 1095 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: after what we heard previous? Right? It's hard pits? Please? 1096 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 1: Is that announcing that? That was my? Mick Mixon and 1097 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: Eugene Robinson of w BT. Do you think Mick Mixon's 1098 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: real first name is Mick or is it just because 1099 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 1: his last name is Mixing and that's a nickname I 1100 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 1: don't know, but probably born in the late sixties. I 1101 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 1: traced that back to his parents as someone who lives 1102 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and I've actually been to the Labra 1103 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: It's heart pits. It's not that easy to crash your 1104 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,320 Speaker 1: car into the tard pit, nor is it easy. And 1105 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: it all screams to me, you know what, We've got 1106 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 1: to pound another one of these episodes. They were located 1107 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 1: in l A. The tar pets are about five miles 1108 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: from here. Easy place to shoot, build a drama, a 1109 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 1: ridiculous one around the LaBrea tarpets. What else could it 1110 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,760 Speaker 1: come down to? You know, they gotta pump out twenty 1111 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,240 Speaker 1: four of these scores every year. They can't all be gems. 1112 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,400 Speaker 1: Who is scorpion. Does anyone even know scorpion is a 1113 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 1: collective of any of them very intelligent, but also they 1114 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 1: all have different personalities, unique personalities that are both um 1115 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 1: interesting and um compelling. It just sounds like something the 1116 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 1: the l a p d Would handle that. You know 1117 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,760 Speaker 1: why you bringing scorpions is when the when the police 1118 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,800 Speaker 1: can't handle the job, you call up the scorpion. And 1119 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: we don't need to hear any criticism from Panthers or 1120 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: Chargers fans. You guys are just talking score. You guys 1121 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 1: did this to yourself. Yes, this should have been a 1122 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 1: fun game. Just a bunch of five and eight teams 1123 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: and operatives are so intelligent, perhaps they should be writing 1124 00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 1: the scripts for this show. A couple of things. First 1125 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 1: of all, about this game, and then we gotta keep 1126 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 1: moving here. But Um, Melvin Gordon Uh in the first 1127 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: quarter of this game entered this game. I believe seven 1128 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 1: yard shy of one thousand. We have Uh stated publicly 1129 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 1: on the show that that that spice rack Chris Westling's 1130 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 1: desert consigliari Um would have a chance to redeem himself 1131 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: on this program if Gordon runs for a thousand yards. 1132 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 1: UH suffered a hip injury in the first quarter three 1133 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 1: yards shy of one thousand. Now here's the good news 1134 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 1: for everybody, because we don't want Melvin Gordon hurt. Uh. 1135 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 1: The Union Trimbune reports that Gordon's hip is good. He's okay. 1136 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 1: So it looks like after a big scare, but not 1137 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 1: before spice Rack and by the way, spice Rack come 1138 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 1: back to it. That's well, we'll see this is these 1139 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 1: are early reports. M R I is coming money good 1140 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: might also mean it's not broken, but he's out for 1141 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: the ref. They've got nothing to play for. They could 1142 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 1: put him on ice they absolutely could. Spice Rack takes 1143 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 1: a random shot at our sponsored by the way Mr 1144 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: Flames economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands on Twitter, 1145 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: randomly takes a shot at Mr f blaming him for 1146 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: Gordon's injury. This is the type of stuff that that 1147 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: spice Rack got banned for. But it's just like spice 1148 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: Racks bizarre mind decides that he wants to take a 1149 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 1: heel turn for some reason, thinking that this is gonna 1150 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: play up his character. Come back to us, spice Rack. 1151 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 1: How will the listener recover if he does not appear 1152 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 1: on our show again? It's sad because he's he's been 1153 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 1: right about Gordon, who has been fantastic this season. And 1154 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 1: as bad as this season has been for the Chargers, 1155 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 1: they just lost Gordon, and they lost Joey Bosa in 1156 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: this game to a neck injury. And if he's out 1157 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 1: for a while, might get in the way of his 1158 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: defensive Rookie of the Year candidates. That would be a shame, whichold, 1159 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 1: which would be a shame. And and oh, by the way, 1160 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 1: the Panthers won your boy, by the way, yea Panthers 1161 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 1: when your boy Philip Rivers. Greg has really stumbled down 1162 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,560 Speaker 1: the stretch. Five turnovers in this game. He was also 1163 00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 1: sacked five times, took a safety. Uh so uh you 1164 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 1: predicted that? Uh? And West Actually, you guys thought he 1165 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 1: would they would go ten and six. But they're going 1166 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 1: in the wrong direction and we do not go after 1167 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 1: Mr f What are you thinking, right, Mr have a 1168 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: heck of a nice sky. You're crazy, Rivers. That is 1169 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 1: not the way to get back on the show, buddy. 1170 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 1: This is a trend for Rivers. He has struggled in 1171 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: the second half of seasons compared to how great he's 1172 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: played in the first half of seasons. I believe three 1173 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 1: straight years there's been a pretty market decline for whatever reason. 1174 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 1: That's something to be a little concerned about. For our 1175 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 1: the l A rate Chargers, our Panthers coverage went all 1176 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 1: to Cam Newton's tie, so that's why we haven't covered 1177 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 1: them tonight, Mr Fu. An apology for Mr f is 1178 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 1: now part of any spice rack. Return to the shop. 1179 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 1: That's fair if he gets there. Let's move on. Holly 1180 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 1: Flicker from the own end zone in the Triple Publicge's 1181 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 1: in the sected by Loca have some blockers on the 1182 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: later show got a bounce curious play called there by 1183 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson and the Bengals and the Browns rather and 1184 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 1: it proves costly. If one place sums up a season, 1185 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 1: that might have been it. Robert Griffin. The third was 1186 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 1: not the spark the Browns hoped for In Cleveland felt 1187 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 1: oh and thirteen with a twenty three ten loss to 1188 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. In Cleveland, Mark the Browns are now uh, 1189 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 1: you know, windless at home when it was on the road, 1190 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 1: and they're running at a time to avoid the unthinkable. 1191 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: They are you got the Bills, the Chargers and the Steelers. 1192 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 1: Uh left on your schedule. I don't know where the 1193 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 1: wind comes from there. And you know, for all the 1194 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: trouble that the Bengals have encountered this season, and for 1195 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 1: as much of a low wattage version they are of 1196 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 1: last year's team, it's stunning to still look at the 1197 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 1: separation between where they are and where Cleveland is. It's 1198 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: not a one or two year rebuilding operation in Cleveland, 1199 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 1: which we knew, but the deep gutting that took place. 1200 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 1: It's very hard to build an NFL team. And it's 1201 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 1: another week. I don't think we need to bemoan it 1202 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 1: for much more than that, where it's just ever present 1203 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: how far away they are from not just really winning 1204 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 1: games even but being the kind of team that can 1205 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 1: go seven and nine or eight and eight and be 1206 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: kind of frisky. I mean, we aren't seeing enough of 1207 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,439 Speaker 1: these young players kind of developing down the stretch into 1208 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 1: players that can take over games. Not at all. How 1209 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 1: much do you think their chances of winning the game 1210 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 1: are decreased or do you with r G three at 1211 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,439 Speaker 1: quarterback versus Cody Kessler, who is healthy and ready to play. 1212 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: My only comment there, and I know a lot of 1213 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 1: Browns fans would disagree with this. Cody Kessel has had 1214 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 1: two concussions, so I get why they you might just 1215 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 1: shelve him at this point for the rest of the year, 1216 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't understand how r G three, 1217 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 1: from what we've seen on the field or just in 1218 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 1: general what he represents, should on any level get in 1219 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,360 Speaker 1: the way of future plans. And he should not be 1220 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 1: considered as the starter for next season. He's not reliable. 1221 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 1: They've got to go in a completely new direction, and 1222 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 1: so why is he starting games in December. I don't 1223 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 1: know why you'd put him out there over anyone this 1224 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 1: is a winless team, over anyone that could grow in 1225 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 1: the role, including Kessler, who has been better than ARG three. 1226 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it's as simple as Cody Kessler took such a beating. 1227 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's when it comes to somebody 1228 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,920 Speaker 1: else back there that's healthy right now, I think he's 1229 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 1: essentially they'd like they would like him maybe not to 1230 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 1: see the field again. That was Edrew Catalan of CBS 1231 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 1: with the call. By the way, it was sorry to 1232 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 1: delay that announcement. The Bengals are set up to play 1233 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: the spoiler role more than any team in the NFL. 1234 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 1: Going down the stretch. They are frisky right now. They 1235 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 1: have not packed it in. They're playing very well through 1236 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 1: the injuries. Marvern Lewis coming back. They play the Steelers, 1237 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 1: then they play at Houston, then they play the Ravens. 1238 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 1: Three teams right on the edge of the playoffs right now, 1239 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 1: and the Bengals are not some team that you can 1240 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: just say is a gimme win right now, right I 1241 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 1: mean you think about teams like them and the Cardinals 1242 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,560 Speaker 1: and the Lions, and that's where I think Kevin was not. 1243 01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,560 Speaker 1: There's not that big of a difference between those three teams. 1244 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the Cardinals would have won three extra games 1245 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,919 Speaker 1: if Cat and zero wasn't a disaster this year. I'd 1246 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 1: say one issue with the Bengals that we've mentioned that 1247 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 1: that showed up again today, which is a concern about 1248 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 1: them beating anyone down the stretch of taking care of 1249 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 1: a team like the Steelers. The Browns are the worst 1250 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 1: pass rushing defense in the NFL, and it's not even close. 1251 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 1: Four sacks, five quarterback hits, and they derailed the Bengals 1252 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 1: a number time, a number of times with Keith third 1253 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 1: down sacks. So you know what happens when you go 1254 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 1: play a Pittsburgh team that on defense is really emerging. 1255 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 1: One one last note on on the Browns Terrell Prior, 1256 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 1: Durell Prior, who has had his moments. What is it 1257 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 1: he seems to be getting under people's skin. After the game, 1258 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 1: Hacman Jones made a big spectacle. He said he would 1259 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 1: only answer questions about Tarrell Prior held up a garbage 1260 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 1: can and was anything about Terrell Prior any questions? He 1261 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 1: would signal that Tarrell Prior was in the garbage can. 1262 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: They had some words before the before the game, and 1263 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 1: I guess dating back to a prior matchup. But Prior 1264 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,120 Speaker 1: has seemed to get on the grid for some people 1265 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 1: this year. I don't know why. It seems to speak 1266 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 1: positively in interviews and two games against the Bengals, part 1267 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,479 Speaker 1: right against Pacman Jones, who talks trash about all sorts 1268 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 1: of people, was having a sneaky great year. This guy 1269 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 1: is agelessman. He's played really well over the last month. 1270 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 1: I don't know there there is a second part to that, 1271 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 1: but I feel like that the whole thing is sailed 1272 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 1: away at this point, all right. I feel like Prior 1273 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 1: has been a good soldier. I think I think I 1274 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 1: would say. I wonder I don't know the answer this. 1275 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 1: I wonder if people uh that players other people innately 1276 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 1: um disrespect or looked down on a player who is 1277 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 1: attempting to switch positions from A to B. I think 1278 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 1: it would be the opposite to be honest, because you'd 1279 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 1: have to know how hard that is. But also if 1280 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 1: you're trying to guard him and he's frustrating to deal with, 1281 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 1: maybe that's where it's coming. You know what. It's sorry 1282 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 1: one player on the brownsh I mean he should and 1283 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 1: he shouldn't, but it it's nice they have that quality. 1284 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 1: Let's check in with the Around the NFL podcast Other 1285 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 1: Glory team Petty and the pistol balal pal just behind him. 1286 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 1: He takes the snack, gives the balal paler, runs left 1287 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 1: at the ten at the five Jets are gonna win 1288 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: it five over the field goal and balal pal can 1289 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 1: score a second touchdown of the game and Marty witted 1290 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,400 Speaker 1: for the tests and overtop. Yeah you do you, Bob 1291 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 1: was Susan of w e Plow. Powell's uh nineteen yard 1292 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 1: touchdown round and overtime was the decisive play in the 1293 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:37,120 Speaker 1: Jets twenty three seventeen win over the forty Niners. Uh. 1294 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 1: The Jets were down fourteen nothing five minutes into this game. Uh, 1295 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 1: no lollipops to be handed out to the Jets, obviously, 1296 01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 1: but they snapped the four game losing streak and extended 1297 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,720 Speaker 1: uh the Niners losing skid to twelve on a day 1298 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 1: that a fire Trent Balkie banner flew over Levi Stadium, 1299 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 1: which was ironic considering John Egzig got canned in part, 1300 01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 1: in my opinion, by a fan movement uh in New 1301 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 1: Jersey and New York in which banners were flown above 1302 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:09,560 Speaker 1: Netlife Stadium. Ter decision making. But yes, um I said, 1303 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 1: in part, uh so yeah, Bryce Petty first past of 1304 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: the game interception, but he showed it showed some showed 1305 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 1: some things in this game. And this was kind of 1306 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 1: why West and you and I fundamentally disagree on this, 1307 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 1: but why I want to see Petty not necessarily to 1308 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,960 Speaker 1: see if he's the starter, but as this guy at 1309 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 1: least maybe our number two next year, see what he's got. 1310 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 1: He's shown some things, but very raw. Um right now, 1311 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: as for the Niners, guys, I mean, if you can't 1312 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 1: win this game, you're not gonna win any games. Well 1313 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 1: you're playing the Rams, but I don't know that's gonna 1314 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 1: be quite a battle right there. This keeps the number 1315 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 1: one pick alive. I mean, the forty Niners they had this. 1316 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 1: The Browns were in great position. Well, Dan and I 1317 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 1: were having I mean, I you know, i'd say, Dan, 1318 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen you. I don't know if 1319 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 1: it was. It didn't seem manufactured. It seemed genuine, genuinely 1320 01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,920 Speaker 1: kitty during the final couple of minutes of this game, 1321 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,360 Speaker 1: which was nice to see. It's these tough years and 1322 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 1: Mark you know better than anyone um these tough years. 1323 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,560 Speaker 1: Even though it might have technically hurt the Jets in 1324 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 1: the long run with their draft standing, it is nice 1325 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 1: to get a win. I didn't want them to get 1326 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,160 Speaker 1: embarrassed by the forty Niners of all teams, which would 1327 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,480 Speaker 1: have led to another round of Twitter and the and 1328 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 1: the coach get we don't want that. That's not positive progress. 1329 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 1: So a little bit of you know, a little bit 1330 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 1: of the Keith hanss and me who my dad was 1331 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 1: sending texts all through the In fact, I was not 1332 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 1: gonna have Keith Hansas, uh even call in for the 1333 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 1: rest of the season. But he's been so relentlessly pounded 1334 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: by losses and he's a guy that just wants to 1335 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,920 Speaker 1: see his team win that I thought, let's let's have 1336 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Keith talk about a Jets victory for once the first 1337 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 1: time all season on this show. I think his name 1338 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:53,720 Speaker 1: was Keith Dad. He'll doubt about it. He's a big 1339 01:07:54,000 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Jets fan, well is he? Well? Great comeback by the 1340 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 1: Jets first today today? Uh? With that over time victory. 1341 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,840 Speaker 1: As a Jet fan, every win is sweet. Spike, his 1342 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:20,320 Speaker 1: fourth season, it gave I was renewed with happiness again. Uh. 1343 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 1: How and folks with the heroes, I'm looking forward to 1344 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 1: next week. That's a fan, absolutely, And you know you 1345 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 1: can get and and and since nineteen the Jets have 1346 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,519 Speaker 1: really known nothing but heartache. But my dad just wants 1347 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,240 Speaker 1: to see some wins. On Sundays, he watches the game 1348 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,120 Speaker 1: and he wants to see the Jets. That right there 1349 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: is why the NFL is king, because what the Jets 1350 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 1: have done to him and the Browns have done to you, Mark, 1351 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,080 Speaker 1: and and you just you come back from where you do. 1352 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 1: You want to be happy. And I loved here and 1353 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 1: I love when you. You call him Billy Powell, you 1354 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 1: were just like pell game twenty nine carries a forty 1355 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,160 Speaker 1: five yards and two touchdowns. I'll take that all day. Mean, 1356 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,479 Speaker 1: you know that the Niners would also take a hundred 1357 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 1: ninety three yards from Carlos Hide at eleven point four 1358 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 1: yards per carry. But that's that's separate that. In the 1359 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,360 Speaker 1: first half. Anyway, Chip Kelly took blame for basically sitting 1360 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 1: on this lead. I don't think he thought Petty could 1361 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,720 Speaker 1: come back on them. You know they can't sit on 1362 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,519 Speaker 1: a lead of seventeen points, seventeen six. I believe in 1363 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, in the in the found a way 1364 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:21,760 Speaker 1: and the Niners are still in the mix for the 1365 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 1: number one pick. Let's move on, which takes us to 1366 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:32,360 Speaker 1: Sunday Night, Football Night, the nfc ET showdown between the 1367 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 1: Cowboys and Giants. Chris Westling Winter has come for the 1368 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:44,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys eleven game winning streak. There's a lollipop. No, no 1369 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 1: lollipop for you, Chris O'Dell Beckham ended the winning streak. 1370 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 1: Odell Backham, What did Odell back Hum doing this game? 1371 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,920 Speaker 1: Said Backham? Making the catch and also the racist he 1372 01:09:56,040 --> 01:10:01,760 Speaker 1: goes car chasing him down. Get him touchdown. Giants pitch Yes. 1373 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:06,719 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham's sixty one yard touchdown UH put the Giants 1374 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 1: ahead and kept them ahead on Sunday night at the 1375 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 1: Meadow Ends Atten seven win UH four big Blue over 1376 01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,719 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. The Cowboys looser just the second time this season. 1377 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,040 Speaker 1: Both their losses now in Week one and Week fourteen, 1378 01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,840 Speaker 1: have come to the same Giants team. The Giants now 1379 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 1: improve UH to UH what is it? Eight eight and 1380 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:34,639 Speaker 1: four on the seasoned four of the season and are 1381 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 1: in prime playoff position. And this was a game Chris 1382 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,719 Speaker 1: westling UH that the Giants offense could not do anything 1383 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,599 Speaker 1: with the exception of that Beckham play, But the defense 1384 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,960 Speaker 1: showed up in a monster way. You have to give 1385 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,880 Speaker 1: Generous Jenkins and the defensive line a ton of credit. Uh. 1386 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 1: And and Odell Beckham, I think you saw that he 1387 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,720 Speaker 1: can turn a slant into a touchdown like nobody in 1388 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. The offensive line had a poor game, Eli 1389 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 1: Manning had a poor game, and that's what's been happening 1390 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: for the last month. But to me, Odell Beckham didn't 1391 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,559 Speaker 1: win the game for them. Odell Beckham got ten points 1392 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,840 Speaker 1: on the board, which is gonna get you beat you know, 1393 01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 1: all every other week of the season. Against the Cowboys, 1394 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,320 Speaker 1: the Giants defense won the game for them. Fifteen drives 1395 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,960 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys and two hundred sixty yards. They had 1396 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 1: more drives than they had first downs for the last 1397 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,439 Speaker 1: two weeks. The Jaguars, I mean the Cowboys rather have 1398 01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,840 Speaker 1: put up Rams level or Jaguars level production. It's just 1399 01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 1: two weeks. There's no need to panic. But they've had 1400 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,840 Speaker 1: two straight weeks under two hundred and seventy yards, which 1401 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,000 Speaker 1: would be by far the worst any team has in 1402 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,439 Speaker 1: yard a 'all season. It's a problem if you go 1403 01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:44,400 Speaker 1: ahead at Sunday night. Wow, I can't get upset at that. 1404 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,439 Speaker 1: I never will be able to get upset at that. 1405 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,560 Speaker 1: It's just sheer talent coming over the broadcast. It's like 1406 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,000 Speaker 1: a Disney character. I think it's shaking back here, like 1407 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:57,719 Speaker 1: an anticipation of Markgars, like, Ohe's gonna happen. You're obsessed 1408 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,040 Speaker 1: with Disney, and I'm starting to see that maybe you 1409 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, you have a role in the Disney film 1410 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 1: at some point. But like you look at you look 1411 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,920 Speaker 1: at the way that Dallas goes this game, and it's 1412 01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:12,200 Speaker 1: their drives are ridiculous. They're all short drives. It's a punt, 1413 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,960 Speaker 1: an interception, a punt, a punt, a punt, a fumble 1414 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,759 Speaker 1: and downs. It's just the opposite of what the formula 1415 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,920 Speaker 1: we talked about with Dallas all season. Long drives that 1416 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 1: chew up the clock, control the line, the opposite today 1417 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,679 Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott for one oh seven. That so everything looks 1418 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 1: by the way, he had eighty six yards at halftime 1419 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,600 Speaker 1: compared to eighty four for the entire Giants offense R 1420 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:37,960 Speaker 1: wow uh so, but he slowed down the second half 1421 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,720 Speaker 1: after a great start. Dak Prescott and here is here 1422 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 1: is now the big talking point. You know who's you know, 1423 01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 1: Skip Bayliss and Shannon Sharp are doing backflips right now 1424 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:47,760 Speaker 1: because they have something to talk about for the next 1425 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,120 Speaker 1: five days. Dak Prescott seventeen of thirty seven hundred and 1426 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,559 Speaker 1: sixty five yards, averaging yards for attempt four point five. 1427 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,080 Speaker 1: His first game in his career where he's thrown two interceptions, 1428 01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,519 Speaker 1: sack three times, pass rating and forty five point four 1429 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 1: So a true stinker against the very good Giants defense. 1430 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:07,639 Speaker 1: But again the Giants defense. Gregg won this game without 1431 01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,760 Speaker 1: JPP two, which makes it even more impressive. Yeah, and 1432 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:15,920 Speaker 1: the credit should go to generous Jenkins for an incredible performance, 1433 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,679 Speaker 1: and Devon Kannard had a nice night and Olivier Vernon 1434 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 1: had a nice night. But I think we have seen 1435 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,200 Speaker 1: and all credits should go to this Giant's defense, who 1436 01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,680 Speaker 1: has been fantastic down the stretch. We've seen now two 1437 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,400 Speaker 1: weeks in a row, and I think that's enough to 1438 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:34,400 Speaker 1: worry about it that a great defense at home can 1439 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:39,120 Speaker 1: take down this Cowboys offense. On placed for the clean 1440 01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:43,719 Speaker 1: pocket per Pro Football Focus, Dak Prescott was only seven 1441 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,920 Speaker 1: of one for ninety one yards, one touchdown in two 1442 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,960 Speaker 1: interceptions from a clean pocket. I think the last few weeks, 1443 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,320 Speaker 1: and really look just two weeks ago against Washington, he 1444 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:59,160 Speaker 1: lit it up. Baltimore slowed him down for about a half, 1445 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,200 Speaker 1: but then he figured things out and responded. But these 1446 01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,599 Speaker 1: last two weeks, you've seen defenses throw a lot at 1447 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,880 Speaker 1: him in terms of looks, in terms of disguises, and 1448 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 1: they've had a lot of talent that helps, and the 1449 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,280 Speaker 1: offensive line wasn't as dominant as we're used to seeing. 1450 01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I just we just got done praising a 1451 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,720 Speaker 1: resurgent Packers team that we know is going to go 1452 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,880 Speaker 1: to the playoffs that three weeks ago looked like an 1453 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,320 Speaker 1: utter trash heap on defense. Teams go through these ups 1454 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,920 Speaker 1: and downs, these byrothms, or they just change. They change. 1455 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:31,160 Speaker 1: But Dak Prescott also is up until you know, outside 1456 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 1: of two games, answer the call every single week. I 1457 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 1: I will not tolerate a bunch of chatter about oh 1458 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,240 Speaker 1: a bench him. Now, well you know what, will stay 1459 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,479 Speaker 1: at home, stay in my house. He's gonna yeah, he'll 1460 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,920 Speaker 1: get criticized, and there will be criticized for this game, 1461 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,719 Speaker 1: and that's fine, and and and there will be idiots 1462 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 1: that come out and say, now it's time to get 1463 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,720 Speaker 1: Tony Romo in the mix, which you should ignore and 1464 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 1: unfollowed and block anybody that does that because Dak has 1465 01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 1: earned much more rope than that at this point. But 1466 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 1: I would say, if you're if you want to spend 1467 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 1: positive as Cowboys fan, that it's good. If you're gonna 1468 01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 1: hit a bump in the road early to mid December, okay, 1469 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,800 Speaker 1: you still have time to kind of figure out what 1470 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,599 Speaker 1: how teams are adjusting to you. Maybe you can tie 1471 01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 1: up some issues here, loose ends and then move forward 1472 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,320 Speaker 1: because you're still in great position to get the first 1473 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,840 Speaker 1: seat you are, And I think that's right then, and 1474 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,560 Speaker 1: I think it just it just shows how important I 1475 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,280 Speaker 1: think these next three weeks are. Regardless of what they're seeing, 1476 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,120 Speaker 1: they're playing a good Bucks defense. Next week, they're gonna 1477 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,400 Speaker 1: get the line. I think it's important for a rookie 1478 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 1: quarterback and you know, a rookie running back in a 1479 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:39,519 Speaker 1: team that has one fewer playoff games in the last 1480 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 1: twenty years than the than the Seahawks of you know, 1481 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,439 Speaker 1: one in the last two years, I think it's important 1482 01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 1: for them to close out strong and get a little 1483 01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,439 Speaker 1: bit of the stink off. Prescott's third in the league 1484 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,960 Speaker 1: and fumbles, so I know every everyone loves how careful 1485 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,240 Speaker 1: he's been to the ball. He's third in the league 1486 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,160 Speaker 1: in fumbles, and now he's got a couple of picks here. 1487 01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 1: So it's just something you've got to clean up. Well, 1488 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 1: there you have it, Wes. You're annoyed because you had 1489 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 1: the Giants figured out and now they got another win. 1490 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,040 Speaker 1: They're probably going to the playoffs. Mannoy because I'm competitive 1491 01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:12,400 Speaker 1: and I wanted that lollipop. But the Giants, the Giants 1492 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,960 Speaker 1: defense just deserves a ton of credit. Yeah, And and 1493 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 1: I have all My friends from back home in the 1494 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 1: cold town are Giants fans, and they were, you know, 1495 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,759 Speaker 1: texting all game freaking out about Eli Manning with good reason. 1496 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,760 Speaker 1: Let's see what as West has said, this offense still 1497 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,880 Speaker 1: looks broken, and let's see if they could they can 1498 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,760 Speaker 1: figure out in these last three weeks. Because if they do, 1499 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 1: if they West, if they can somehow pull themselves out 1500 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 1: of which is more than a slump right now, pull 1501 01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,360 Speaker 1: and figure something out, they are dangerous in January. As 1502 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 1: we've learned before, which reminds me Rodney Harrison come back 1503 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 1: to us here the first did he picked the Patriots 1504 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,120 Speaker 1: and this is this is falls under the realm of 1505 01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,160 Speaker 1: gas station criticism. Went to the gas station night last 1506 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:54,839 Speaker 1: night to fill up my tank. You know how sometimes 1507 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,720 Speaker 1: they have those videos playing. They had Dan Patrick and 1508 01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison and Rodney harrisons and analysis was it's gonna 1509 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,400 Speaker 1: be a tough matchup for that Cowboys secondary because the 1510 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:07,679 Speaker 1: Giants attack downfield with Eli Manning in that great downfield offense. 1511 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, is this guy mailed it in for 1512 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,800 Speaker 1: the entire season. Eli's got the worst downfield offense in 1513 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,600 Speaker 1: the NFL this year. Do your homework dog, do your homework. It. 1514 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,080 Speaker 1: It was remarkable in a game that's as big a 1515 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,639 Speaker 1: win the Giants have had in a while, that you're 1516 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,200 Speaker 1: not letting Eli Manning throw the ball in the fourth quarter, 1517 01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:26,880 Speaker 1: and when they do let him throw the ball, he 1518 01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,400 Speaker 1: almost throws it away a few times. It's just such 1519 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,360 Speaker 1: a it's a strange it's a strange season. I like 1520 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,479 Speaker 1: with this listener. Matt Raven has just tweeted to Dan 1521 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,040 Speaker 1: and I saying that Jets and Browns fans utterly unite 1522 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,160 Speaker 1: and laugh at the BS narratives of struggles and QB 1523 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 1: quandaries and big d give me a break, fair enough, 1524 01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,560 Speaker 1: very fair and does Bryant make some plays in this 1525 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,720 Speaker 1: in this game? Hold on to that football makes some 1526 01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:57,120 Speaker 1: place anyway. All right, we'll be back on Tuesday where 1527 01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,719 Speaker 1: we will recap. We got one more really good primetime 1528 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,920 Speaker 1: game this week to come. That's Baltimore at New England 1529 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 1: on Monday night, So we'll talk about that game and 1530 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 1: uh then we'll take a closer look at the playoff 1531 01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 1: picture the on Tuesday. The next time you hear from us, 1532 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 1: thank you for listening. Uh leave stars leave comments on 1533 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 1: the old iTunes page, and uh you know show everyone 1534 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,600 Speaker 1: UH that you that you support us the way we 1535 01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:24,840 Speaker 1: UH support you. Know that feels strong, that's strong, the 1536 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,280 Speaker 1: way we entertain you. If we try to do our 1537 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 1: best and if you could help us out, that would 1538 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 1: be great. Sydney, great singing, really proud of you. 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