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Speaker 2: Epstein, Epstein Epstein. So a whole lot of stuff went
Speaker 2: down yesterday. Emily and I covered the initial emails that
Speaker 2: were released from the House Oversight Committee. There is a
Speaker 2: whole lot more that has dropped since then. In fact,
Speaker 2: people are still going through all of the material that's
Speaker 2: been released, so we're going to go through as much
Speaker 2: as we can. We're also going to break down for
Speaker 2: you the White House's panic to response and how Bulkins
Speaker 2: responded that discharge petition now has the requisite number of signatures,
Speaker 2: so a whole lot for us to talk about there.
Speaker 4: There is other news as well, though.
Speaker 2: We're going to dig into the landscape of the jobs
Speaker 2: market after a very poor jobs report came out. Also
Speaker 2: a fascinating and disturbing look at an Israeli company that
Speaker 2: has been you know, brought up a ton of properties
Speaker 2: here in the US and is just an absolutely terrible landlord,
Speaker 2: and what that looks like, what the impact it is
Speaker 2: having on our country. We're also taking a look at
Speaker 2: the way the billionaires are reacting to Zorn's victory in
Speaker 2: New York City, and also got some interesting comments from
Speaker 2: Lena Khan about her role on the transition team there,
Speaker 2: which is kind of fascinating as well. And today Starbucks
Speaker 2: workers are going on strike. We are going to have
Speaker 2: one of the leaders of that strike here in wait,
Speaker 2: not here in studio, but live, you know, in spirit,
Speaker 2: in essence, in spirit. She'll be in studio talking to
Speaker 2: us about what they're going on strike for and what
Speaker 2: they're hoping to accomplish.
Speaker 4: So very interesting one today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 3: Here the Epstein stuff here today, I know a lot
Speaker 3: of people are interested in that who may not even
Speaker 3: meet necessarily interest in politics. That's the perfect episode to
Speaker 3: go ahead and send to a friend. So all right,
Speaker 3: let's go ahead and start then with the Trump White
Speaker 3: House panicked reaction to the Epstein files, acting guilty as hell,
Speaker 3: if I might say, with their initial reaction, working incredibly
Speaker 3: hard to try and stop a discharge petition from hitting
Speaker 3: the House floor, which would require a release of the
Speaker 3: Epstein files. So this was their initial reaction to those
Speaker 3: releasing of the emails.
Speaker 1: Here is what they had to say.
Speaker 4: Can you address their substance?
Speaker 2: Did the President ever spend hours at Jeffrey Epstein's house
Speaker 2: with a victim?
Speaker 5: These emails proved absolutely nothing other than the fact that
Speaker 5: President Trump did nothing wrong.
Speaker 1: Why not just go ahead release the full files on Epstein?
Speaker 5: Get this all over with, we have this administration has
Speaker 5: done more with respect to transparency when it comes to
Speaker 5: Jeffrey Epstein than any administration ever. And it was CBS's
Speaker 5: own reporting WIJA that recently wrote that Miss Guffery maintained,
Speaker 5: and God rest her soul, that she maintained that there
Speaker 5: was nothing inappropriate. She ever witnessed that President Trump was
Speaker 5: always extremely professional and friendly to her.
Speaker 1: If the President is considering a pardon for a going maxwell.
Speaker 5: Again, he's answered this repeatedly, it's not something he's talking
Speaker 5: about or even thinking about at this moment in time.
Speaker 3: I can assure you of that, all right. So that's
Speaker 3: the reaction there, DVEs up there. Oh, we've done absolutely
Speaker 3: nothing wrong. You know, these emails prove nothing other than
Speaker 3: the fact that he did absolutely nothing wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, all right.
Speaker 3: I mean these are Look, I was willing to believe
Speaker 3: here's the theory, and I think this is a reasonable one.
Speaker 3: Trump's been on the problem the scene since what twenty fifteen, Right, You're.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, if anything had come out, it would have
Speaker 1: come out. Right.
Speaker 3: He's one of the most heavily scrutinized people. You've got
Speaker 3: all these me too, lawsuits, etc. It's not exactly like
Speaker 3: he was a choir boy in his tabloid lifestyle. So
Speaker 3: it seemed like whatever was out in the open was
Speaker 3: out in the open. But man, I mean, you read
Speaker 3: some of this stuff and we're going to spend a
Speaker 3: decent amount of time here.
Speaker 1: It's not looking good there for mister Trump.
Speaker 3: At the very least, it does prove, at the very least,
Speaker 3: their behavior only validates what could be the theory behind it,
Speaker 3: right about running scared, in my opinion, and I think
Speaker 3: any reasonable person could see that we had the letter
Speaker 3: that initially came out from Trump which said you know,
Speaker 3: or the letter the drawing or whatever from the birthday book.
Speaker 1: They said it was fake. It was obviously real.
Speaker 3: It's been vindicated as real ever since then. Not that
Speaker 3: maga's ever acknowledged that, but you know, the release a
Speaker 3: lot of these emails just suggests like a very close
Speaker 3: intimate relationship. AP have been bullshitting like yeah, maybe, but
Speaker 3: you know, at this point, like you basically have no
Speaker 3: choice but to fully release everything if you actually want
Speaker 3: to be quote vindicated, And we're whipping this hard against it,
Speaker 3: Like I don't know how a reasonable person couldn't say.
Speaker 3: It does look like you're at trying to cover up something.
Speaker 3: I don't really have another explanation for.
Speaker 1: It, do you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, you put together what we're going to go
Speaker 2: through that has been revealed in these emails, which is
Speaker 2: highly suggestive and suggestive of a longer term relationship. Remember
Speaker 2: Trump said that he had cut off all relations all,
Speaker 2: you know, friendship, any sort of communication with Epstein long ago.
Speaker 2: These emails would certainly seem to indicate otherwise. That's number one.
Speaker 2: So you put together, you know, some of the content
Speaker 2: of the emails with the incredibly guilty, panicked way that
Speaker 2: they're reacting to this vote that could potentially, in the
Speaker 2: future lead to a further Epstein files release. And you
Speaker 2: put that together with the cushy treatment of Goingane Maxwell,
Speaker 2: who's sitting in club fed, playing with puppies, getting special
Speaker 2: meals and filing her application for commutation of her sentence.
Speaker 2: Why because he's afraid of what she has on him,
Speaker 2: what she could say. It appears she was leaking to
Speaker 2: the press. I mean, I think that's a you know,
Speaker 2: pretty reasonable assumption at this point, not proven, but reasonable.
Speaker 2: Those leaks stopped once she got her special treatment, and
Speaker 2: so they're they're trying to keep her quiet, they're trying
Speaker 2: to keep the Republicans in line and failing, by the way,
Speaker 2: and you know, acting guilty as hell, while more and
Speaker 2: more comes down as people are going through these emails
Speaker 2: about what Trump knew, what Epstein thought he had on Trump.
Speaker 2: I mean he outright says I could I could destroy him,
Speaker 2: like I have you know, dirt on him that could
Speaker 2: end his political career. He says, I'm the only one
Speaker 2: effectively who could do that. So, yeah, it's and all
Speaker 2: those you know, lives of TikTok and all these people
Speaker 2: are very interested in this stuff.
Speaker 4: Suddenly they got nothing to say nothing.
Speaker 3: A friend of mine asked me about it yesterday and
Speaker 3: I said, here was the stupidity of these people, is
Speaker 3: they believe that when we said the richest and most powerful,
Speaker 3: they were like, oh, well, that's just Democrats. And the
Speaker 3: whole point was it was never just democrats, right, And
Speaker 3: I mean, no, one's why watching Democrat Larry Summers, Bill
Speaker 3: Clinton and all that stuff. We'll show all listen in
Speaker 3: the next segment about emails. I'm going to go through
Speaker 3: all of these like Titans of Industry, donors, you know,
Speaker 3: Larry Summers, Clinton, all these other folks that were ensnared,
Speaker 3: you know in the Epstein story. Nobody I have no
Speaker 3: problem talking about that. I don't even think a lot
Speaker 3: of the liberals who are now interested or have any
Speaker 3: issues talking about that either. The issue here is the
Speaker 3: centrality of Trump himself. And I think, you know, his
Speaker 3: best case could probably be, well, I knew he liked
Speaker 3: young girls.
Speaker 1: It was a different time.
Speaker 3: Yes, I fooled around with many women, and Epstein was
Speaker 3: aware of that, but he chose instead to be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I threw him out of mar A Lago because I
Speaker 3: thought he was a creep.
Speaker 1: Threw him I barely know. Like this is just obviously
Speaker 1: not true.
Speaker 3: Okay, So and that's really what the email I mean, Look,
Speaker 3: the emails only validate.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's photos, right, there's the NBC News report.
Speaker 3: There's the quote of like Jeffrey, like Simiongi is a
Speaker 3: very active social ethe they gave in two thousand and two,
Speaker 3: Like these.
Speaker 1: Are all on the record. It was already well established.
Speaker 4: Asked birthday book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the birthday book thing? When was that two thousand
Speaker 3: and six, right, I mean, so you can see like
Speaker 3: this wasn't that long ago. It was like twenty some
Speaker 3: years ago. Not to mention not only the letter from
Speaker 3: the Trump birthday book. You remember the whole like the
Speaker 3: gifting of the girlfriend thing with the check signed by Trump,
Speaker 3: which is also.
Speaker 4: This is not a reference in these emails.
Speaker 3: Reference in the emails. Let's just get to what Trump
Speaker 3: said here about the Epstein thing.
Speaker 1: Let's put that up here on the screen. This was
Speaker 1: an initial truth. Uh.
Speaker 3: The Democrats are trying to bring up the Jeffrey Afterting
Speaker 3: hoax again because they'll do anything at all to deflect
Speaker 3: how badly they've done on the shutdown so many other subjects.
Speaker 3: Only a very bad or stupid Republican would fall into
Speaker 3: that trap. The Democrats cost our country some one point
Speaker 3: five trillion dollars with their recent antics of viciously closing
Speaker 3: our country. They should pay a fair price. There should
Speaker 3: be no deflections to Epstein or anything else. Any Republican
Speaker 3: involved should be focused only on opening up our country
Speaker 3: and fixing the massive damage caused by the Democrats. So
Speaker 3: this was in response to a few of those Republicans
Speaker 3: who ended up signing that discharge petition, and that distart petition,
Speaker 3: by the way, does now have the requisite two hundred
Speaker 3: and eighteen votes. Thomas Massey says that even if a
Speaker 3: representative were to die, that their signature will live.
Speaker 1: In the petition. So that's a distart petition.
Speaker 4: They can't kill anyone to fix their problem.
Speaker 3: It's actually pretty interesting about distarct justsprottestioning are quite rare.
Speaker 3: They're famously you know, he was using this Civil Rights Act.
Speaker 3: It's one of those things where two hundred and eighteen
Speaker 3: votes you need a majority of people to vote in
Speaker 3: order to circumvent leadership. It's actually very hard to do
Speaker 3: to get two hundred and eighteen signatures on a discharge petition.
Speaker 3: So it just shows you how extraordinary this thing is.
Speaker 3: Massy also indicating that some forty or fifty Republicans will
Speaker 3: probably end up voting for the Epstein resolution despite the
Speaker 3: fact that White House is whipping so hard against us.
Speaker 3: Let me put the next one up here on the screen,
Speaker 3: just again to show you the extraordinary measures that the
Speaker 3: Trump White House is using. So quote, Trump ramps up
Speaker 3: the pressure on the GOP to fort in Epstein vote.
Speaker 3: So two of the individuals, Representative Nancy Mace and Representative
Speaker 3: Lauren Bobert, signed the vote on releasing the Epstein positions.
Speaker 3: Because of course, you know, they were people who not
Speaker 3: only ran talked about it like a lot over the
Speaker 3: last few years, and they wanted to be consistent. They
Speaker 3: were summoned. Bobert was summoned to the White House Situation Room.
Speaker 3: All right, the White House situation room. That is not normal. Like,
Speaker 3: let me just explain here, Like the situation room briefings
Speaker 3: are for something that can only take place in a skiff.
Speaker 3: Is what is a secure compartmentalized information facility. You can't
Speaker 3: bring your phone in if you just watch House of
Speaker 3: Dynamite right there you go. So that's what the White
Speaker 3: House Situation Room. It has a variety of It's like
Speaker 3: a whole complex down in there in the White House,
Speaker 3: a lot of briefing rooms, meeting rooms. But in that
Speaker 3: same day, she was summoned to a meeting with the
Speaker 3: Attorney General and the f behind directors. So these are
Speaker 3: the top law enforcement officials of the whole United States government.
Speaker 3: We're sitting in the White House Situation Room providing a briefing.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, so what does that all tell you? You've
Speaker 3: got very sensitive information that being briefed here to a
Speaker 3: member of Congress presumably you know, in a security with
Speaker 3: a security clearance. Honestly, you know, when I see something
Speaker 3: like that, I'm like, that's just flashing intell, right, anything
Speaker 3: that's unclassified normal political meeting. There's a shitload of meetings
Speaker 3: in the rooms in the White House. Okay, there's an
Speaker 3: entire complicate of the EEO basis, So there's a lot
Speaker 3: of meeting space over there.
Speaker 1: There's so I've been down there.
Speaker 3: There's so many meetings that can happen in a non
Speaker 3: classified setting. So the fact that this happened in the
Speaker 3: situation room really was like a whoa moment, right, because
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, so this goes to classified setting. They
Speaker 3: don't want her to bran briefing, or they don't want
Speaker 3: to bring her phone in. Presumably she probably didn't have
Speaker 3: any staff that were allowed in there. This is like
Speaker 3: clearance to the max of things. And I actually don't
Speaker 3: think the press is doing a good job about explaining how.
Speaker 1: Crazy it is to bring someone of the White situation.
Speaker 4: How absolutely extraordinary.
Speaker 2: And the reason is the clock was taking to four
Speaker 2: o'clock because remember, first of all, Mike Johnson shut down
Speaker 2: the House entirely.
Speaker 1: For four fifty something days.
Speaker 2: Ridiculous amount of time just to forestall this potential discharge petition.
Speaker 2: Then Adelie de Grialva was elected almost two months ago,
Speaker 2: and he was just like, yeah, not going to swear
Speaker 2: her in, just not going to swear her in because
Speaker 2: she would be that two hundred and eighteenth vote. So finally,
Speaker 2: with actually the end of the shutdown, he could no
Speaker 2: longer justify putting that off. And so she was going
Speaker 2: to be sworn in at four o'clock and sign onto
Speaker 2: the discharge petition immediately. And so the clock was taking
Speaker 2: down four o'clock and the Trump and you know, his
Speaker 2: administration cronies full court press press. I can only imagine
Speaker 2: the level of pressure that was exerted on Nancy Mace
Speaker 2: and on Lauren Broke Bobert and whoever else they thought
Speaker 2: they might be able to get to withdraw their.
Speaker 4: Name and to cave. And at the end of the
Speaker 4: day they did it.
Speaker 2: None of the Republicans took their name off, which is
Speaker 2: an incredible sign I think of the weakness of this
Speaker 2: White House at this point. You know, I think, but
Speaker 2: maybe even just weeks ago before the election results, you
Speaker 2: might have been able to bully some of your Republicans
Speaker 2: who asside onto this petition to walk.
Speaker 4: Away from it.
Speaker 2: But now Trump's popularity is going down and down and down.
Speaker 2: You've got Americans who are very unhappy with the economy.
Speaker 2: You know, you've got so much. So many of these
Speaker 2: people talk so much about the Epstein files and have
Speaker 2: so much of their reputation on the line with regard
Speaker 2: to how they handle all of this, and so all
Speaker 2: of them held firm. Bobert put out pretty entertaining, honestly
Speaker 2: tweet after this full court press came from.
Speaker 4: The White House.
Speaker 2: She says, I want to thank White House officials for
Speaker 2: meeting with me today. Together, we remain committed to ensuring
Speaker 2: transparency for the American people. With the little American flag
Speaker 2: emoji translation being sorry, not gonna bend keeping my name
Speaker 2: on here, and yeah, thanks for your time, thanks for
Speaker 2: wasting your time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I look, it's interesting Bobert has been
Speaker 3: out of the news kind of lately over the last
Speaker 3: two years. She was like one of our Yeah there's
Speaker 3: no more of Beetlejuice, and yeah, she inspired my Beatle
Speaker 3: Juice costume two years ago. Shout out to Laura for
Speaker 3: that one. But it is interesting to me that she
Speaker 3: is sticking with this. But also, I mean, if you're
Speaker 3: a Republican, if you're MTG Lauren Bobert, remember Lauren berber
Speaker 3: barely won reelection. You remember how close that race was.
Speaker 4: It was like it was nothing right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and her antics really I think cost her part
Speaker 3: of the reason why she's been a little bit more silent.
Speaker 3: But if you're MTG Bobert, any of these people, you
Speaker 3: got to run for reelection again, like you know MTG
Speaker 3: for example. I'm not saying she'll lose her district, but Georgia,
Speaker 3: look at what just happened with those power elections. You
Speaker 3: got two Democratic senators rep in the state. You got
Speaker 3: you know, Democrats who are on the rise. You've got
Speaker 3: your own political future here here to worry about. And
Speaker 3: so the White House nearly as powerful. Trump is acting
Speaker 3: like a real lame duck lately in a way that
Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of people are fully appreciating.
Speaker 3: And the fact that he lost this actually does demonstrate,
Speaker 3: in my opinions, some of the lack of hold he's
Speaker 3: going to lose or the hole that he's going to lose.
Speaker 3: Increasingly a lame duck. I mean really is starting to
Speaker 3: be a lame duck.
Speaker 1: He is quite literally a lame duck running for office.
Speaker 3: And then you know, the more look at w w's
Speaker 3: hold on the party. After six people were like, yeah, thanks,
Speaker 3: thanks for calling, mister president.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't care what you really have to say.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the four Republicans who signed on were Massey, who,
Speaker 2: of course partner with Rocannon, has really been you know,
Speaker 2: leading the charge here, Marjorie Taylor Green, and then the
Speaker 2: two that we just mentioned, Lauren Bohmert and Nancy May.
Speaker 2: So I think the White House knew there was no
Speaker 2: chance they were going to get MTG. Certainly not Thomas Massey.
Speaker 2: That ship has hailed. So those were the two. And
Speaker 2: apparently what it looked like is that Nancy May just
Speaker 2: basically didn't answer their calls. It's just like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: just not going to pick up the phone right now.
Speaker 2: And so they were the two that made to eighteen.
Speaker 2: There is another Democrat who's likely to be sworn in
Speaker 2: in January. So even if they got Bobert off of
Speaker 2: the discharge petition, which obviously they failed to do, then
Speaker 2: in you know, another month or two, you're going to
Speaker 2: have another Democrat who comes into the House who would
Speaker 2: have still made to eighteen. But you know, it's also
Speaker 2: interesting that they are so threatened by this because number one,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's their government.
Speaker 4: Who has control over these documents.
Speaker 2: Like, does anyone here think that they would be above
Speaker 2: like messing with it and scrubbing them of any sort
Speaker 2: of unflattering information that could come out. I certainly don't
Speaker 2: think that they're above that. The amount of material do
Speaker 2: you're talking about here, though, makes that job very difficult
Speaker 2: to be able to effectively do.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: Obviously they're worried about what may be contained in whatever
Speaker 2: government information exists about Jeffrey Epstein, which you know, given
Speaker 2: Ryan and MOS's reporting over at Dropside about all the
Speaker 2: Intel connections and just absolutely confirming he was an Israeli
Speaker 2: intel asset.
Speaker 4: Also by the way he was talking to the Russians.
Speaker 2: I mean he was, you know, any sort of powerbroker
Speaker 2: in the world that he could ingratiate himself with, he
Speaker 2: was certainly doing that. So no doubt the CIA has files.
Speaker 2: We know that FBI has files, like they have financial records,
Speaker 2: like there is a lot of information that our government
Speaker 2: has about this man. But in any case, you know,
Speaker 2: so Number one, you think, okay, well, they've got some
Speaker 2: time to like scrub out whatever it is they don't
Speaker 2: want to come forward, and nobody thinks that they're above that.
Speaker 2: Number two, it still has to pass the Senate. And
Speaker 2: then even and then even if it gets through the Senate,
Speaker 2: Trump still has to sign it, and he's not going to.
Speaker 2: So then you have to how many votes you have
Speaker 2: to get in the Senate to overcome a veto sixty.
Speaker 4: Or sixty six?
Speaker 1: Well, to overcomes that would.
Speaker 2: Sixty six, right, Yeah, So I mean very unlikely that
Speaker 2: you would be actually able to get sixty six members
Speaker 2: of the Senate to go against Trump and override his veto.
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, you have this story that is
Speaker 2: just festering and more and more stories like what we're
Speaker 2: talking about today of just incredibly guilty behavior.
Speaker 4: You have every Republican both.
Speaker 2: In the House and in the Senate, having to go
Speaker 2: on the record of trying to like protect a pedophile,
Speaker 2: protect a ring of global ring of pedophile elites, not
Speaker 2: exactly votes that they want to take. So I think
Speaker 2: that explains why, even though it is very unlikely that
Speaker 2: we actually get to a point where you know, this
Speaker 2: succeeds in the House, succeeds in the Senate, Trump signs it,
Speaker 2: or they overcome a veto. It's very unlikely for all
Speaker 2: of those things to happen. But in the meantime, it's
Speaker 2: just political hell for every Republican involved.
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, obviously that's why they didn't want to
Speaker 3: do it. Who would want to be the person who
Speaker 3: has to vote against this?
Speaker 1: Good luck to you.
Speaker 3: By the way, anybody want to remind me about some
Speaker 3: senators who are up a reelection, let's say in a
Speaker 3: year in twenty twenty six, Like, why would you give
Speaker 3: that to your opponent? If you're running against Shared Brown?
Speaker 3: Good luck you know, if you're running, if you're running
Speaker 3: in some of these closer races, if you're John Ossof
Speaker 3: or any of these folks, this is great for you
Speaker 3: to be like, I voted for the release and this
Speaker 3: is what again, these MAGA folks for you for weeks,
Speaker 3: Remember they were like the MAGA Forgibbs Trump on Epstein files,
Speaker 3: And I was like, here's what you guys didn't understand.
Speaker 3: There is a whole cohort of people who definitely voted
Speaker 3: MAGA or were MAGA adjacent in twenty twenty four because
Speaker 3: Magas was seen as a revolutionary kind of insurrectiousness movement
Speaker 3: against the establishment.
Speaker 1: Epstein was actually a.
Speaker 3: Big part of that because it was like he's different,
Speaker 3: He's going to release the Epstein files because he's saying
Speaker 3: I'm above the fray of this like global ring of elites, right,
Speaker 3: And so when they started doing the cover up, that
Speaker 3: was actually a major dissolution.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I think for a lot of younger people, I would say,
Speaker 3: especially young men. I mean, if you already feel like
Speaker 3: the system is rigged against you and that people in
Speaker 3: high places do stuff that you could never imagine, and
Speaker 3: you saw eyes white shut and your life is being disenfranchised,
Speaker 3: it's like, not only is it easy you believe it's
Speaker 3: actually quite literally true in this case. Well, when you
Speaker 3: start acting like that those people, and in particularly you know,
Speaker 3: covering up any of the Israel connections and any of
Speaker 3: that stuff, you're like, oh.
Speaker 1: Not the same new boss name is the old boss.
Speaker 3: That's I mean, if anything, you asked me where Trump's
Speaker 3: real like fault comes from in terms of like a
Speaker 3: lot of his political popularity, it's the new boss name
Speaker 3: as the old boss mentality like Israel War continues, Ukraine
Speaker 3: War unsolved. A lot of the foreign policy looks cookie cutter,
Speaker 3: neo Khan just like out of the last administration or anything.
Speaker 1: I keep saying, he's like Biden.
Speaker 3: That's the whole problem is if people hated by it,
Speaker 3: they don't want anything like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, actually your life is fine.
Speaker 3: Let me show you some bullshit chart about why the
Speaker 3: S and P five hundred is up and that means
Speaker 3: that your life is getting better. No, that's that's quite
Speaker 3: literally the opposite. And I could go on, you know,
Speaker 3: in every faster this this is I'm just talking about Epstein,
Speaker 3: Brett Weinstein, you know, a major Maha guy.
Speaker 1: He was recently on Rogan and he's.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, my husband, you know, failure like basically whenever
Speaker 3: it comes to RFK Junior, right, And for them, mRNA
Speaker 3: was like a big thing, like like RFK being like
Speaker 3: I'm going to withdraw the mRNA vaccine. It's just it
Speaker 3: has not happened, like literally period, end of story. They
Speaker 3: can end up make all kinds of excuses and talk
Speaker 3: about food dies and steak and shake all you want.
Speaker 3: Like the singular thing that you said was going to
Speaker 3: happen quite literally didn't happen. Tulsea's a D and I director.
Speaker 3: She was supposed to come in and be a bomb thrower,
Speaker 3: right yeah, oh okayah, where is she?
Speaker 1: Everything?
Speaker 3: All my reporting suggests is she's out on the outs
Speaker 3: all right, CIA director John Ratcliffe, who's like much more
Speaker 3: an establishment guy. He sees control. She you know, Trump
Speaker 3: is mad at her about the Hiroshima video. She's like
Speaker 3: a side character fighting for relevance right now. So that's
Speaker 3: just this, you know, stacking on top of each other,
Speaker 3: like the more revolutionary parts so called Magan all that.
Speaker 3: It's been a year like the rubber hit the road,
Speaker 3: and now you kind of know who's running the show.
Speaker 3: So that's just that's why I think the Epstein story
Speaker 3: continues to matter.
Speaker 1: And I mean.
Speaker 2: It's such a blow to his brand. Yeah, exactly cool.
Speaker 2: And nobody gets how important a brand is more than
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and it is. I mean, it's a stating
Speaker 2: blow to his brand as this renegade outsider going to
Speaker 2: expose the corrupt elite, like think about the fantasies of QAnon.
Speaker 4: You know, and the storm is coming and all this.
Speaker 2: Idea that all the corrupt elites were going to be
Speaker 2: swept up and arrested, and it was going to be
Speaker 2: a new day and the sort of moral cleansing purification
Speaker 2: was going to occur. And then it's like, no, actually,
Speaker 2: this guy's not only going to cover up the Epstein files,
Speaker 2: but he is in like all over the Epstein files.
Speaker 4: He was this man's bestie.
Speaker 2: For years and years and years, and you don't think
Speaker 2: there was going to be anything there on him obviously,
Speaker 2: not to mention, he always acted weird and shady when
Speaker 2: he would get asked directly about it. He could never
Speaker 2: give a straightforward, like unequivocal answer when he would get
Speaker 2: asked about are you going to release the JFK files? Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 2: Are you going to release the Epstein files? Well maybe
Speaker 2: less so, there may be other you know, I don't
Speaker 2: want innocent people to be harmed, blah blah blah. So
Speaker 2: you know, it was always there if you wanted to
Speaker 2: open your eyes and see it, but a lot of
Speaker 2: people did not.
Speaker 4: And so to your point about the damage to his.
Speaker 2: Presidency, again, sort of like with the authoritarianism, you know
Speaker 2: what people would put up with a lot of him
Speaker 2: being shady and buddies with Jeffrey Epstein and all over
Speaker 2: these emails and whatever. If they were like, but I
Speaker 2: can buy a house, but you know, my kids' lives
Speaker 2: look great now, their jobs are not actually going to
Speaker 2: be stolen by a band of robots that are going
Speaker 2: to destroy society.
Speaker 4: My electric bill is going down.
Speaker 2: Actually, like life is measurably better in you know ways
Speaker 2: that I can that I am experiencing personally. If people
Speaker 2: felt like things were going great, and yeah, I guess
Speaker 2: the president was like, at the very least knew about
Speaker 2: this ring, pedophile ring, and that the worst was directly
Speaker 2: implicated in it.
Speaker 4: Eh, what are you going to do?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: It's the guy we got. At least my life is
Speaker 4: getting better.
Speaker 2: But when the president's a creep, the economy is cratering,
Speaker 2: and you've got all this authoritarian bullshit, mass thugs in
Speaker 2: the streets and all of that nonsense as well, and
Speaker 2: the foreign policy landscape is an utter and complete disaster.
Speaker 2: Like when you put all of that to, what are
Speaker 2: you giving people to hang on to? Some like you know,
Speaker 2: owning the libs quote unquote based social media videos and
Speaker 2: an announcement about stake and shake, Like that's that's what
Speaker 2: we're supposed to hang our hat on. Here is the
Speaker 2: Golden age. Oh congratulations. So, and I think for the
Speaker 2: podcast world in particular, you know, Epstein obviously was a
Speaker 2: major focal point, and it just was impossible for them
Speaker 2: to really defend. So, you know, in terms of the
Speaker 2: you know, some of the podcast bros that were directly
Speaker 2: supportive of Trump going into this election, you know, that
Speaker 2: really was the start of them having to start to
Speaker 2: say some critical things and having to turn in a
Speaker 2: somewhat different.
Speaker 4: Direction, which is influential.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying they're like the only reason
Speaker 2: he got elected, but they do have power in society,
Speaker 2: and especially with this group of.
Speaker 4: Young men who were very important in the Trump coalition.
Speaker 1: That's what people just you know, really just don't get.
Speaker 3: And so, you know, bringing back to the point, I
Speaker 3: actually think one of Trump's powers superpowers always was like
Speaker 3: a directional honesty, is that he would lie kind of
Speaker 3: tell the truth. And so do you remember, like in
Speaker 3: the twenty fifteen campaign, that famous line when he was
Speaker 3: like you think we're so innocent, you know, and it
Speaker 3: was like wow, like nobody like that, nobody, no American
Speaker 3: president has been like, yeah, we're shady, do right? And
Speaker 3: everyone was like, yeah, exactly, He's right on a lot
Speaker 3: of his divorces and his own conduct. You know, for years,
Speaker 3: one of the superpowers was he had no shame. He
Speaker 3: would just call the New York posts. I mean, don't
Speaker 3: you remember some of those headlines like best Sex I
Speaker 3: Ever had or whatever with Marla Maples.
Speaker 4: He would pretend to be Yeah, he would pretend to
Speaker 4: he's pr guy.
Speaker 3: Right, these are He was absolutely shameless, and that's why
Speaker 3: people were like, oh, he's lude and cheats on his wife,
Speaker 3: Like yeah, so you know he's like, you never hit it,
Speaker 3: yeah right, you never hid anything. So even here if
Speaker 3: he was like yeah, I was friends with them, I
Speaker 3: had a you know, some line about I had a
Speaker 3: rambunctious youth even though he's like.
Speaker 1: Fifty five at the time of something. Remember works right now.
Speaker 1: It happened with me.
Speaker 3: I interviewed RFK and I was like, hey, like this
Speaker 3: nanny says that you know, you grew up her or whatever,
Speaker 3: and he's like, I had a crazy youth.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, what an answer. He was like yeah,
Speaker 1: forty or right.
Speaker 3: I was like, whoa, But I mean it worked, right,
Speaker 3: and so for Trump, like that's a.
Speaker 1: Twice divorced man who owned Miss.
Speaker 3: Universe pageants and has a long history from you know,
Speaker 3: from the tape of twenty sixteen and prior. Like that's
Speaker 3: part of the reason I don't think the tape was
Speaker 3: the hit that most people thought. He's like, he never
Speaker 3: pretended to be anything that he wasn't, but in this
Speaker 3: case he actually did kind of pretend, right. It was
Speaker 3: friends with Epstein's obvious it does.
Speaker 1: It's not a good look.
Speaker 3: It could just say something like, yeah, you know, we
Speaker 3: party with Chase girls together, but I never soon knew
Speaker 3: or saw anything crazy at this point though, doubling, tripling down,
Speaker 3: and especially I think, by the way, it's not just
Speaker 3: about Trump, because Trump, as you say, is always gonna.
Speaker 1: Be kind of ambiguous.
Speaker 3: I think it's like Cash, Betel, Pam Bondi and Jade,
Speaker 3: you know, all these other people who used Epstein to
Speaker 3: political advantage, to rally people to their cause and then
Speaker 3: they're silent, right, and that see that I actually think really.
Speaker 4: Rubs or directly Cash, right, And so that's what.
Speaker 3: Really bugs I mean, I can't can I say, like
Speaker 3: for me in particular, watching like Cash and all them
Speaker 3: literally gone podcasts, you know, tours talking about we know
Speaker 3: exactly where the Epstein files are. And then Bro, you
Speaker 3: come into office and you say, believe me, I would
Speaker 3: tell you with your bug eyes.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, it's like, no, I don't believe you.
Speaker 4: Mart Cambondidy putting them on my desk.
Speaker 2: Right nine weeks later, Oh, actually there are no Epstein
Speaker 2: files and there's nothing to see here when we're moving on.
Speaker 1: So it's like, well, which when time, when were you lying?
Speaker 1: Because you did lie.
Speaker 3: There's just no there's no world where you didn't lie.
Speaker 3: Then you put some of the facts and all that
Speaker 3: stuff together. So yeah, for year from part not years,
Speaker 3: it's still have been a year, it feels like. But
Speaker 3: for weeks there was this whole discourse about how MAGA
Speaker 3: doesn't care about Epstein and.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's true. But this is what I always say.
Speaker 3: MAGA did not win Trump the election, all right, MAGA
Speaker 3: is only like thirty three percent of the country. Eighty
Speaker 3: something million people did vote for Donald Trump. He won
Speaker 3: a popular vote victory in the election. Not all of
Speaker 3: them are MAGA.
Speaker 1: Go ask them.
Speaker 3: They'll tell you I'm not MAGA, or I'm an independent,
Speaker 3: or I was voting for this. That reason why the
Speaker 3: coalition that they were the most proud of, and they
Speaker 3: should be proud when young people vote for you. I
Speaker 3: think that's inspiring because it's just like, oh, the next
Speaker 3: generation believes in this stuff that I have to say.
Speaker 3: I think this is important to them. I think it's
Speaker 3: important to you. I think our show are long focused
Speaker 3: on Epstein, and of course, I mean, won't lie. I've
Speaker 3: been rewarded for it, you know, a lot, through ratings
Speaker 3: and through all this other stuff. I think it's because
Speaker 3: the reason why I became a podcast thing is because,
Speaker 3: by the way, even to this day, you can't go
Speaker 3: on CNN and just say he was an Israeli asset.
Speaker 1: Like even then.
Speaker 6: People will go why you but without evidence, sir, you're
Speaker 6: speaking right, Like That's why it goes big on the podcast,
Speaker 6: because we can just speak the way that every normal
Speaker 6: person can look.
Speaker 1: At the facts. Yeah, it's obvious.
Speaker 3: The New York Times, I mean, one of the things
Speaker 3: that comes out of these emails is that you have
Speaker 3: a New York Times reporter who worked there for like
Speaker 3: fifteen years who's basically working with Epstein to try and
Speaker 3: quash different stories and talk about plaque.
Speaker 1: Matt.
Speaker 2: It's like, bro, what the fuck well, and that gets
Speaker 2: to the point of you were saying your assumption was
Speaker 2: basically like listen, they've been ounce to get try you know,
Speaker 2: they've been wanting to take down Trump for a long time.
Speaker 2: They this was something. If there was there there, something
Speaker 2: would have come out. But that discounts how much these
Speaker 2: media outlets were implicated, you know, in terms of the
Speaker 2: cover up. It of course erases the number of Democrats
Speaker 2: who are involved here as well. And so I think
Speaker 2: it's the case that there was just a bipartisan disinterest,
Speaker 2: like directly, you know, to going in their own self interest,
Speaker 2: like we're just gonna not talk about this. One of
Speaker 2: the emails is where Epstein and Michael Wolf are going
Speaker 2: back and forth about like, oh, I think CNN in
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen is going to ask Trump a question about you,
Speaker 2: and so they're like brainstorming, you know, well, what would
Speaker 2: be the perfect answer. And by the way, Wolf, I
Speaker 2: think it is suggests that hopefully Trump will say some
Speaker 2: things that are untrue because then you'll have leverage on him.
Speaker 2: I mean directly plotting like here's how we're gonna hear
Speaker 2: We've this president is compromised, and it'd be good for
Speaker 2: us with this potential president at that point, conference would
Speaker 2: be good for us. If we have some dirt on him,
Speaker 2: we can use it to our own advantage here. But
Speaker 2: in any case, then i'd announced that question.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I noticed that.
Speaker 4: They didn't end up asking that question.
Speaker 2: So somewhere along the way, if if they were planning to,
Speaker 2: that particular question got spiked and didn't make it in.
Speaker 2: So that's why we can be all these years later
Speaker 2: and you feel like, you know it must know everything
Speaker 2: there is to know about Donald Trump, and we.
Speaker 4: Are learning more and more and more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not cynical enough because you know, intellectually, you know,
Speaker 3: you read the Manson book, right, the Tom was I'm
Speaker 3: totally blanking on the name, but it's an incredible book.
Speaker 3: You read that Tom O'Neil, that's his name, the guy
Speaker 3: who wrote the book. You read that Manson book and
Speaker 3: you're like wow. So even forty years later, people will
Speaker 3: cover the shit up. And intellectually, I know JFK. For example,
Speaker 3: it's been sixty something years since the assassination, and even
Speaker 3: though we like basically know you know, the cover up
Speaker 3: and the plots and all of that, but we don't
Speaker 3: know for sure, right, like we know enough to reasonably
Speaker 3: guess an say, it all obviously points in one direction,
Speaker 3: but in real time it's like even when you're a
Speaker 3: very cynical person like me, you're like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 3: assume something would have.
Speaker 1: Come out, you know, by now, And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Man.
Speaker 3: You look at the CNN stuff, the New York Times
Speaker 3: and you're like, yeah, it's like, you know, to borrow
Speaker 3: my own words. When we said the richest and most
Speaker 3: powerful people, we meant it. And it really is a
Speaker 3: conspiracy of silence, of intelligence, of just like the sketchiest
Speaker 3: the sketchiest stuff, and you know that what comes through
Speaker 3: to the emails to me. And again I knew this
Speaker 3: at an intellectual level, but the depraved nature through which
Speaker 3: these guys act in private is so disgusting. I don't
Speaker 3: care what time it is, like what time period, and
Speaker 3: even if it was twenty years ago. Like when you
Speaker 3: read that Birthday book, remember that one about the guys
Speaker 3: with mass On talking about raping rape fantasies, You're like,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Like that's not normal, Like that's that's really
Speaker 3: really not normal.
Speaker 1: I mean and psychotic.
Speaker 2: Ninety violent of the Birthday book entries all about his
Speaker 2: like sex life, and I mean, yeah, and what we
Speaker 2: was for his fiftieth birthday?
Speaker 4: Is that right?
Speaker 2: It's like, I mean discussing that was like when that
Speaker 2: came out, I was like, oh, QAnon was.
Speaker 1: Actually that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You're talking about directional crack.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they were just wrong to put Trump as
Speaker 2: their hero at the center of that story. And I think,
Speaker 2: you know, some of them are realizing that. I mean,
Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green was a Q and On person and
Speaker 2: now here she is signing onto the discharge petition, very
Speaker 2: much at odds with Trump and kind of in the
Speaker 2: crosshairs from the administration. But you know, when you think
Speaker 2: about Trump's life and the characters he ran with, not
Speaker 2: just Epstein, John Casablancas, who was you know, pioneer in
Speaker 2: making the modeling industry basically like a global human trafficking
Speaker 2: industry and exploiting these young girls known pedophile himself, and
Speaker 2: Trump was close with him. And you know, Trump had
Speaker 2: his own modeling agency and you know, reportedly modeled some
Speaker 2: of his practice. Is after Casablancis puts his own daughter,
Speaker 2: by the way, in this industry, when she's like thirteen,
Speaker 2: fourteen years old, which given what you had to know
Speaker 2: about it, is so just beyond disturbing. He bragged about,
Speaker 2: you know, in his beauty pageants, how he could go
Speaker 2: in and since he owned them, you know, he could
Speaker 2: go into the dressing room and check out all these girls.
Speaker 4: You know, there's now there's this reporting about the.
Speaker 2: Party that he threw with that was supposed to be
Speaker 2: with all these models, young models and a bunch of VIPs,
Speaker 2: and then the only person he invites is Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2: All these girls who thought that this was going to
Speaker 2: be their break and there'd be a bunch of like rich, famous,
Speaker 2: you know, influential people that they could and you know,
Speaker 2: get hired for gigs, et cetera. And then it's just freakin'
Speaker 2: Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. We know without a doubt that
Speaker 2: they were super close friends for years and years.
Speaker 4: You know, all of this is out there.
Speaker 2: Trump himself confirmed that Virginia Gouffrey worked at mar A
Speaker 2: Lago and Gallaine Maxwell comes in and you know, and
Speaker 2: takes her and that's how she ends up being in
Speaker 2: the Epstein world and herself being trafficked and abused. So,
Speaker 2: you know, once you start to open your eyes to
Speaker 2: all of these things, and then it just really be
Speaker 2: and then we'll get into the emails. Here, it really
Speaker 2: bears underscoring why this matters. Obviously from a moral character perspective,
Speaker 2: it matters a lot. Okay, that's one thing. We're talking
Speaker 2: about a president of the United States who was compromised
Speaker 2: by an Israeli intelligence asset.
Speaker 4: That's what we're talking about here.
Speaker 2: I mean, whatever Trump is afraid of coming out right now,
Speaker 2: he knew that Jeffrey, whatever deep dark secrets he has
Speaker 2: that he doesn't want to come out, which I think
Speaker 2: is undeniable at this point given what we know and
Speaker 2: his behavior. He knew that Jeffrey Epstein and Glene Maxwell,
Speaker 2: by the way, had that information on him. And you
Speaker 2: have to assume, whether it's true or not, that that
Speaker 2: information was shared with the Israelis. You have to assume
Speaker 2: that we know, and Ryan brought this up, that the
Speaker 2: Israelis use the Monica Lewinsky tapes against Clinton to coerce
Speaker 2: his behavior.
Speaker 4: Oh, you think you think they're above.
Speaker 2: Of course, not like that's there. That's their whole mo o.
Speaker 2: So we have in the White House. It looks like
Speaker 2: someone who is compromised by Israel. And you know, there
Speaker 2: was all the Russia Gates stuff in the first administration
Speaker 2: to theorize and by the way, you know, there's also
Speaker 2: emails here between Epstein talking about his like you know,
Speaker 2: diplomacy with Russian leaders as well. So I think it
Speaker 2: actually is fair for to assume that Trump thinks that
Speaker 2: they probably do have something on him as well. But
Speaker 2: you know, in a lot of ways, everybody was looking
Speaker 2: in the wrong direction. So that's why, you know, the
Speaker 2: Trump focus here is so important, because this is such
Speaker 2: an incredit. I mean, this is the president of the
Speaker 2: United States, maybe the most powerful person in the world,
Speaker 2: and you have to assume that he thinks Israel has
Speaker 2: some sort of devastating dirt on him.
Speaker 1: There's only one way to prove that you don't, which
Speaker 1: is by releasing it.
Speaker 2: All.
Speaker 3: That's the only way at this point to prove that
Speaker 3: you don't. And I think that's why, I mean, I
Speaker 3: get extraordinarily I know that the stuff sounds O spiandish,
Speaker 3: but it's like, dude, you know, if you look like
Speaker 3: you're in full blown cover up here, you know, either
Speaker 3: for yourself or your friends or whatever, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is politics. People are going to assume the absolute worst,
Speaker 3: like you set up the conditions through which people are
Speaker 3: going to assume that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I mean, it's it's dark. It's
Speaker 1: very very dark.
Speaker 3: Turning out of the emails themselves, which we've been teasing
Speaker 3: here for a little while, let's actually get into some
Speaker 3: of them. Crystal and Emily went into the three big
Speaker 3: ones that happened yesterday, which you'll recall, but it's actually
Speaker 3: worth knowing. The House Oversight Committee ended up releasing some
Speaker 3: twenty two thousand new pages. Now, I want to say
Speaker 3: at the top. Part of the difficulty for people like
Speaker 3: us is that they have put them out as individual images,
Speaker 3: not as searchable PDFs.
Speaker 1: So we have to individually go through all.
Speaker 3: Twenty two thousand files and it would take weeks, if
Speaker 3: not months to actually go and read on my best,
Speaker 3: and we have collated a lot of stuff here that
Speaker 3: various researchers and all of them have flagged. We're going
Speaker 3: to give you a fullsome taste here of some of
Speaker 3: the Trump stuff that remains in the email.
Speaker 1: So let's put the first one up here on the screen.
Speaker 1: This is B two.
Speaker 3: Actually, guys, let's just jump ahead to there. Jeffrey Epstein was.
Speaker 3: This was a June of twenty nineteen email where they
Speaker 3: Epstein says specifically, quote, recall Prince Andrew's accuser came out
Speaker 3: of mar A Lago. So this is Virginia Gouffrey. And
Speaker 3: this is in a text chain that was with Steve Bannon.
Speaker 3: So this is from July of two thousand and June
Speaker 3: of twenty nineteen, and saying, quote, can't believe nobody is
Speaker 3: making you the connective tissue. And he says specifically Prince
Speaker 3: Andrew and Trump today too funny. So presumably there was
Speaker 3: some meeting was happening between and that day, right, So
Speaker 3: that's what Epstein and Bannon are like joking about. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is only months before he's dead in federal prison
Speaker 3: and indicted. Just flagging that one. Let's go to the
Speaker 3: next one. This is nuts, okay. So this was a
Speaker 3: email chain with Landon Thomas Junior, who is a New
Speaker 3: York Times reporter who worked there for years, who it
Speaker 3: turns out, had this deep and long relationship with Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 3: and he's sending him some stuff specifically about the Trump campaign,
Speaker 3: kind of asking him for some questions here about previous
Speaker 3: BuzzFeed nude articles about Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, and what
Speaker 3: he says is my twenty year old girlfriend in ninety
Speaker 3: three comma that after two years I gave to Donald.
Speaker 3: So what that shows is you'll recall Michael Wolfe and
Speaker 3: others had talked specifically about this girlfriend that they appear
Speaker 3: to have shared or whatever, who is twenty years old
Speaker 3: in the year nineteen ninety three. There were several jokes
Speaker 3: about that and being depreciated in the birthday book, which
Speaker 3: you will also recall. Just again, you know, to show
Speaker 3: some other relationship. Let's go to the next one. This
Speaker 3: one is in emails with Michael Wolfe. The quote unquote journalist.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean the emails from wolf here are like a
Speaker 3: secondary conversation how discussing that is. But anyway, he says, well,
Speaker 3: I guess if there's anybody who can wave this away,
Speaker 3: it's Donald. Let me know if there's anything I can do.
Speaker 3: This is from Michael wolf This was about the lawsuit.
Speaker 2: This is in relationship to the lawsuit from an accuser
Speaker 2: I believe named Katie Johnson, who alleged that both Trump
Speaker 2: and Epstein had raped her when she was twelve thirteen
Speaker 2: years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. So this was in a lawsuit.
Speaker 2: He's talking about, Well, if anyone could wave this lawsuit away,
Speaker 2: it's Donald.
Speaker 4: I guess he was right.
Speaker 3: Okay time anyway, next time, let's put this up here
Speaker 3: on the screen. This is from Epstein to on Donald
Speaker 3: Trump quote he feels alone and is nuts. I told
Speaker 3: every day one evil beyond belief mad. So it sounds
Speaker 3: like he had TDS. Most thought I was speaking metaphorically.
Speaker 3: It's obvious he could crack Stormy Daniel's question mark lies
Speaker 3: after lies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeffrey Epste lecturing you on morality, like what you
Speaker 2: have gone seriously wrong somewhere in your life?
Speaker 3: Next one, this is from twenty fifteen. Again landon Thomas Junior.
Speaker 2: I think was fired because of his relationship with Epstein.
Speaker 3: Right, And so he emails him about the infamous quote.
Speaker 3: I've known Jeffrey Epstein for fifteen years and Epstein replies,
Speaker 3: read the.
Speaker 1: Uzzfeed must be buzzy BuzzFeed.
Speaker 3: Ari airplane logs Hawaiian contest have them ask my houseman
Speaker 3: about Donald Donald presumably almost walking through the door, leaving
Speaker 3: his nose print on the glass as young women were
Speaker 3: swimming in the pool.
Speaker 1: He was so focused it walks straight into the door.
Speaker 2: Pause on that one for a second because he's talking
Speaker 2: about so they're talking about Trump.
Speaker 4: Landon.
Speaker 2: Thomas Junior says, now everyone coming to me thinking I
Speaker 2: have juicy info on you and Trump. Because of this,
Speaker 2: the story will never die, and then Epstein replies, read
Speaker 2: the BuzzFeed, read my airplane logs and Hawaiian Trump contest,
Speaker 2: so some sort of a jauty contest. And then have
Speaker 2: them ask my houseman about Donald almost walking through and
Speaker 2: leave as young girls blah blah blah. So anyway, he's
Speaker 2: gesturing towards like some of the dirt that he would
Speaker 2: have right that one.
Speaker 3: In Trump exchange about that. Okay, yeah, that's that's what
Speaker 3: Let's go to the next one. This was about Gilaine
Speaker 3: and more or Sorry. This one was a very weird
Speaker 3: email from a victim where they say I'm at the door.
Speaker 1: I will wait for my time.
Speaker 3: I don't want to come early to find Trump in
Speaker 3: your house laughing emoji, laughing emoji. This is from twenty
Speaker 3: seventeen in December. There is no evidence because Trump was
Speaker 3: president at this time, about a visit. I mean you know,
Speaker 3: you can't really go anywhere without the White House Press Corps.
Speaker 3: But I guess they were still joking about it or
Speaker 3: alluding to something while this at this time period with
Speaker 3: one of the victims. Again it's this, I've seen these
Speaker 3: being passed around. But I'm telling you, I mean, I
Speaker 3: was covering the White House at this time. It's literally impossible,
Speaker 3: like you can't go anywhere without the White House Press
Speaker 3: Corps that was tagging along. So I don't think it's
Speaker 3: likely at all. I mean, he was definitely at mar
Speaker 3: A Lago a ton but Jeffrey Epstein, if he had
Speaker 3: been at mar Alago at that time, that actually would
Speaker 3: have been a story. Was under secret Service control. I mean, theoretically,
Speaker 3: I guess possible, but very unlikely. This just seems to
Speaker 3: me there's a lot of winking, nodding, joking, and Epstein
Speaker 3: in the emails to me, he loves how important he
Speaker 3: is of his relationship with everybody else, and he's constantly
Speaker 3: alluding to the dirt that he has on everybody around him,
Speaker 3: including Trump. Trump was one of the figures well that
Speaker 3: he constily alludes to in.
Speaker 2: And in confirmation of you know, one of the things
Speaker 2: that has been posited about Jeffrey Epstein is basically like
Speaker 2: he was using blackmail to make money, ingratiate himself with
Speaker 2: the rich and powerful, keep himself out of trouble. And
Speaker 2: you can see him using those tactics in this email,
Speaker 2: saying basically, I've got you know, I could take down
Speaker 2: this person. I've got information on that person. And then
Speaker 2: you also see him having these high level meetings with
Speaker 2: you know, heads of state and leaders from countries around
Speaker 2: the world, so you really get you know, Trump included
Speaker 2: in this, but even separate apart from Trump, you do
Speaker 2: see how he really operates and the way that he
Speaker 2: presents himself in these emails. You know, back to the
Speaker 2: question about his connectivity with Trump, what's the year that
Speaker 2: Trump claims he cut off all contact with Epstein was
Speaker 2: like two thousand and four or something like that. Early Yeah,
Speaker 2: early two thousands is when they supposedly, I think they
Speaker 2: did actually have some kind of falling out over like
Speaker 2: this mansion that they both wanted or some sort.
Speaker 1: Of well it was that and also of Virginia Gouffrey being.
Speaker 4: Stolen stolen from mar A Lago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't believe me, Trump said that.
Speaker 4: Trump in Epstein.
Speaker 1: You know, well he.
Speaker 2: Literally terms it in these emails effectively in any case.
Speaker 2: But you have some indications in these emails, this one
Speaker 2: being one of them, but others as well, that Epstein
Speaker 2: still wasn't in direct contact with Trump. He was certainly
Speaker 2: in contact with Steve Bannon, who was you know, obviously
Speaker 2: Trump World insider, a lot of questions for Bannon. We
Speaker 2: knew that Bannon had all of these hours of Epstein
Speaker 2: footage that has never been released. And then you see
Speaker 2: him regularly texting back and forth with Epstein. Again, this
Speaker 2: is you know, this is a long time Trump World
Speaker 2: insider that is clearly continuing to communicate with Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 2: right up until he is dead. So you know that
Speaker 2: exchange with regard to Prince Andrew that is I think
Speaker 2: like a month before he ends up dead in a
Speaker 2: prison cell. So all the way up to the end,
Speaker 2: he was certainly connected directly to Trump World.
Speaker 4: There's another email where.
Speaker 2: Someone is asking him to pass some sort of a
Speaker 2: video along to Donald Trump, suggesting that they at least
Speaker 2: thought that he still had that kind of access. So
Speaker 2: I think that's a really important piece of this too.
Speaker 2: As we you know, put these pieces together, and you know,
Speaker 2: you may I like what's going on with the Steve
Speaker 2: Bannon thing. I mean think the most logical conclusion and
Speaker 2: is that he wanted to keep Epstein close because reportedly
Speaker 2: he had said that he knew that Epstein was the
Speaker 2: one guy who could take Trump down and that he
Speaker 2: was worried about going back to twenty sixteen. So I
Speaker 2: think the probably logical conclusion is that he wanted to
Speaker 2: keep this guy close and keep tabs on him to
Speaker 2: make sure that nothing that was going to be damaging
Speaker 2: to Trump was going to going to be coming out.
Speaker 3: Let's good to be a this. This might be the
Speaker 3: craziest one. Let's put it up here all the green. Okay,
Speaker 3: Trump said he asked me to resign. Never remember ever.
Speaker 1: Of course he knew about the girls, as he asked
Speaker 1: Elaine to stop. That was one of those that was real.
Speaker 4: Of course he knew about the girls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course he knew about that.
Speaker 2: And that seems to confirm the Virginia Guffray at Marlatt
Speaker 2: like that dovetails with that story about Virginia Guffray being cooed.
Speaker 3: To be fair, I will say what the MAGA people
Speaker 3: are all showing is what Virginia Guffray did testify under
Speaker 3: oath that she never saw Trump do anything wrong, which
Speaker 3: I don't think is all that exculpatory I get because
Speaker 3: for Trump, per se, because that's not really the alleged accusation.
Speaker 3: The accusation here was about knowing about this and some
Speaker 3: of the relationship that preceded. But did want to throw.
Speaker 2: But read this part from Michael wolf too, though, because
Speaker 2: so the first part of the exchange is this is
Speaker 2: when I believe they're talking about this potential CNN debate.
Speaker 4: Oh no, this is later. This is twenty two. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2: Okay, so twenty fifteen, they're talking about this potential CNN
Speaker 2: debate exchange and brainstorming how they would want Trump to respond,
Speaker 2: which again indicates that there's some way to get this
Speaker 2: information to him and to press him to respond when
Speaker 2: with or another And Michael Wolfe says, I think you
Speaker 2: should let.
Speaker 4: Him hang himself. Interesting choice of worts.
Speaker 2: If he says he hasn't been on the plane or
Speaker 2: to the house, then that gives you a valuable pr
Speaker 2: and political currency. You can hang him in a way
Speaker 2: that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or if
Speaker 2: it really looks like he could win, you could save
Speaker 2: him generating a debt. Of course, it is possible that
Speaker 2: when asked, I'll say, Jeffrey's a great guy and has
Speaker 2: gotten a raw deal and is a victim of political correctness,
Speaker 2: which is to be laud in a Trump regime. So
Speaker 2: here you have Michael Wolfe saying we should hope that
Speaker 2: Trump lies because then you have leverage over him, you
Speaker 2: have valuable pr and political currency, and if he wins,
Speaker 2: you could save him generating a debt. So again strategizing
Speaker 2: about how basically to wield this information against Trump and
Speaker 2: have power over him. And so that email was in
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, and then the one above it is from
Speaker 2: a separate exchange about of course he knew Corstrup knew
Speaker 2: about the girls.
Speaker 4: He asked Elaine to stop.
Speaker 2: So extremely revealing there in terms of how how they
Speaker 2: were talking internally and how Epstein operates.
Speaker 3: Let's go to the next one, shall we. This was
Speaker 3: another pretty extraordinary one. This was this is a joke
Speaker 3: where he talks about it may not be a joke.
Speaker 1: He's sick.
Speaker 3: Quote Hillary doing naughties with Vince. So this is about
Speaker 3: Vince Foster. This is some nineteen nineties stuff if you've
Speaker 3: never gone down the road of the Vince Foster suicide.
Speaker 3: But he is alluding there body count well, I mean
Speaker 3: going to read it for yourself. It is objectively a
Speaker 3: crazy death. There's no getting around that. Let's get to
Speaker 3: be eleven, shall we? This was from Jeffrey Epstein to
Speaker 3: Peter Teel. Quote, subject that was fun, see you in
Speaker 3: three weeks. Just put a pin in that I will return,
Speaker 3: because it actually just tells you about how crazy his
Speaker 3: inner circle was.
Speaker 1: Go to B twelve? Shall we?
Speaker 3: This was another one, quote would you like photos of
Speaker 3: Donald and girls in bikinis in my kitchen? This is
Speaker 3: from December of twenty fifteen. Let's go ahead and skip
Speaker 3: to BE fourteen, just because I want to show everybody
Speaker 3: how deep he was still in DC. This is an
Speaker 3: October twenty seventeen email from Larry Summers, who remember is
Speaker 3: like former president of Harvard World Bank, Treasury secretary under Clinton,
Speaker 3: like as respected as a gats in liberal establishment circles,
Speaker 3: and Epstein's says, when we meet, I will endeavor to
Speaker 3: mesmerize you with stories of DC wild exclamation, exclamation, exclamation
Speaker 3: interesting B fifteen? Please these were all some of the
Speaker 3: ones that I was noting that I dug out. So
Speaker 3: here is Epstein keeping tabs on alex Acosta before alex
Speaker 3: Acosta's hearing. He says who will represent Acosta at hearing?
Speaker 3: And his lawyer, Roy Black, who by the way, helped
Speaker 3: Epstein with the sweetheart deal with Acosta, says he will
Speaker 3: be by himself, perhaps Trumpet maid to assist and to
Speaker 3: accompany him. The reason why that's noteworthy to me is
Speaker 3: number one, he's keeping tabs on Acosta at the hearing.
Speaker 3: Number Two, the alleged he belonged to intelligence quote about
Speaker 3: Acosta happened while he was being vetted. Allegedly, according to
Speaker 3: whoever leaked that story, that he belonged to intelligence quote
Speaker 3: happened while he was being vetted for his potential confirmation hearing,
Speaker 3: in the belief that he may have been asked about
Speaker 3: it at some point during that confirmation. So that's why
Speaker 3: it was important to me that he is keeping tabs
Speaker 3: on Epstein.
Speaker 1: B sixteen.
Speaker 3: Please, this just this is the perfect one for me
Speaker 3: because this just shows like, yeah, look, obviously Trump is
Speaker 3: headline because he's a president.
Speaker 1: But this is how deep the stufffall goes.
Speaker 3: So this is just twenty fourteen, just twenty fourteen, September
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, during the UNNGA, when.
Speaker 1: You know the global elite is all in New York City.
Speaker 3: These were all of his meetings that he lists out,
Speaker 3: and please keep this on screen so I can read
Speaker 3: from them. Petertiel, Larry Summers, Bill Burns, CIA director, Gordon Brown,
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister of Britain, Jaglin, who is a nobel
Speaker 3: committee person from Norway, the Mongolian president, the UAE leader,
Speaker 3: Katari leaders, Leon Black, that Apollo Hedge Fund guy who
Speaker 3: you know they had a long relationship with. That correspondence
Speaker 3: that he has back and forth is with Obama's recently
Speaker 3: departed White House Council, and he's listing like the Clinton people,
Speaker 3: the Security Council. He talks about the Climate summit that's
Speaker 3: happening there for the Clinton Global Initiative. Woody Allen right,
Speaker 3: Fairweather friends, I guess there between the two. But my
Speaker 3: point is just like you can see how deeply interconnected
Speaker 3: that he was into this global elite. Like it's not
Speaker 3: just Trump, it's like everybody, Indian prime Indian energy ministers,
Speaker 3: and just to flag here, the Mongolian president part is
Speaker 3: Remember one of the first stories that Ryan reported is
Speaker 3: that Epstein helped broker in Israeli security agreement between Israel
Speaker 3: and Mongolia. So here you have him meeting with this
Speaker 3: head of state around the same time that he's working
Speaker 3: on behalf of Israel to broker this security So this
Speaker 3: just confirmation of the drop site story number one.
Speaker 1: But number two. Look at the level of access that
Speaker 1: this guy just had. I mean, it's just so crazy.
Speaker 3: From prime ministers, CIA directors, billionaires, Nobel Committee, sultans of Dubai,
Speaker 3: people at Harvard, Woody.
Speaker 1: Allen, I mean, it's everywhere.
Speaker 3: It's entertainment, it's the presidency, it's finance, it's like at
Speaker 3: the highest levels of government, including you know, many of
Speaker 3: these people they never even answered, like Bill Burns when
Speaker 3: those stories came out. He was literally our CI director
Speaker 3: under Biden, and everyone was like, oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: and he was asking for career advice from Empstein in
Speaker 3: a lot of his emails. So it goes deep. Man,
Speaker 3: it's an actual like this is a full blown conspiracy.
Speaker 3: And I want to be clear, I'm not alleging that
Speaker 3: they all have compromond or any of that stuff on them.
Speaker 3: I really actually don't think that's the case. I think
Speaker 3: a lot of it was money influenced and power.
Speaker 1: That's enough.
Speaker 3: You and I have lived here long enough we know
Speaker 3: and people will just look past it. But what you
Speaker 3: I think I would hope most moral people are above
Speaker 3: is you usually google the people that you're associated with.
Speaker 3: They're just a registered sex offender at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, and none of them cared as long as
Speaker 3: you know you can get access to money into power.
Speaker 2: And to use the fact that other wealthy, famous people
Speaker 2: continue to associate with him to be like, well, I
Speaker 2: mean Bill Gates still hangs out with yea exactly, it.
Speaker 4: Can't be that bad.
Speaker 2: Like you know, these like Larry Summers or whoever, they
Speaker 2: still think that I'm cool, so it can't be that bad.
Speaker 2: One more that I just saw here this morning, because
Speaker 2: by the way, it's important to remember, as Soccer was saying,
Speaker 2: two thousand emails and messages got dropped yesterday and none
Speaker 2: of them are in a searchable format.
Speaker 3: So there's in a Google drive in image folders which
Speaker 3: are unsearchable, just so everybody knows.
Speaker 2: So what we just went through is the sampling of
Speaker 2: what has come out so far. There is going to
Speaker 2: be more okay. And so here's another one that I
Speaker 2: just am seeing for the first time, where it's Michael
Speaker 2: Wolf again going back and forth with Epstein talking about Trump.
Speaker 2: This is in early twenty eighteen, and so Epstein replies
Speaker 2: to him, the rich and powerful always send lawyers letters.
Speaker 2: A book about any one of them takes more time
Speaker 2: to publish as I must be, and I am meticulous
Speaker 2: about documentation. And backup, now again, maybe that's not true.
Speaker 2: There are some you know, indications from the FBI search
Speaker 2: of his townhouse and you know, victims saying that there
Speaker 2: were video recording, that there was cameras everywhere, et cetera.
Speaker 2: There are some indication that that is actually the case,
Speaker 2: but that that was the perception he wanted people to have,
Speaker 2: was that he was meticulous about documentation, that he was
Speaker 2: recording everything, that he was keeping track of everything, And
Speaker 2: so the reality of what he actually had or didn't
Speaker 2: have doesn't really matter. What matters is what powerful individuals
Speaker 2: like Trump think that he may have and assume that
Speaker 2: he must have, and assume that he must be sharing
Speaker 2: with various entities that he's also associated with. So, you know,
Speaker 2: I found I thought, I think that one is significant
Speaker 2: as well in terms of the way that he's portraying
Speaker 2: himself as this sort of like all knowing, all powerful
Speaker 2: with all the receipts to.
Speaker 4: Back it up kind of a guy.
Speaker 2: And so there's, you know, the power, the proximity to power,
Speaker 2: the genuine influence. I mean, the amount of now we've
Speaker 2: seen it honestly goes beyond what I expected. The amount
Speaker 2: of globe trotting power that he had to shape world
Speaker 2: events is mind boggling to contemplate. So you have wealth,
Speaker 2: you have power, you have proximity to all of these elites,
Speaker 2: and then you throw in that you have dirt on
Speaker 2: any number of people that can make your life very difficult.
Speaker 2: Then you see how this conspiracy of silence develops and
Speaker 2: is sustained over so many years. And the last point
Speaker 2: I wanted to make here and by like I said before, there's.
Speaker 4: Going to be stuff that continues to come out. Whatever's new.
Speaker 2: We'll also put in the show tomorrow, the Friday Show
Speaker 2: tomorrow as well. But Jill Philippovic made a good point
Speaker 2: about these emails with this New York Times reporter.
Speaker 4: These were from his work account.
Speaker 2: So New York Times fired him because he had an
Speaker 2: inappropriate relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, so they knew that he
Speaker 2: was having this personal relationship. And these emails about Epstein
Speaker 2: and Trump have been sitting on New York Times servers
Speaker 2: presumably for all these years, and they just I guess,
Speaker 2: never bothered to think of that, never bothered to search
Speaker 2: the emails, never bothered to see if there was anything
Speaker 2: relevant there that they might want to look into and
Speaker 2: report out. And that is wild and gets to what
Speaker 2: you were saying, Sager about, like, how is it possible
Speaker 2: that none of this has.
Speaker 4: Come out before?
Speaker 2: You literally had the email sitting on New York Time
Speaker 2: servers and they did.
Speaker 4: Nothing with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, weird. Interesting?
Speaker 2: And look at Ryan right now reporting out all this
Speaker 2: stuff that any any reporter could get access to and
Speaker 2: report out, but they are the only ones who are
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 4: Tells you a lot.
Speaker 3: I mean, this goes to the heart of the Epstein
Speaker 3: story from the day one. Remember Amy Roebach Morning America.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, add the story couldn't cover it. Actually, in
Speaker 3: some of those files, he is giving advice about how
Speaker 3: to help quash stories for the Royal Palace.
Speaker 1: When the Duke Andrew is in his emails being.
Speaker 3: Like please, I have nothing to do with this, Please
Speaker 3: quash this story for me and Epstein is like, if
Speaker 3: we help this, then we're going to be at you know,
Speaker 3: parties in Buckingham Palace for the next for the rest
Speaker 3: of our life.
Speaker 1: He literally says that in
Speaker 3: The emails Stark crazy stuff, crazy stuff, wild,