WEBVTT - 11/13/25: Trump Freaks On Epstein Vote, Full Epstein Email Breakdown 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.599 Hey guys, Saga and Crystal here. 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:05.200 Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:07.840 and we are so excited about what that means for 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:08.720 the future of this show. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:10.760 This is the only place where you can find honest 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.280 perspectives from the left and the right that simply does 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:14.680 not exist anywhere else. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.080 So if that is something that's important to you, please 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:18.440 go to Breakingpoints dot com. 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.959 Become a member today and you'll get access to our. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.040 Full shows, unedited, ad free, and all put together for 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:25.600 you every morning in your inbox. 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:27.560 We need your help to build the future of independent 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:29.920 news media and we hope to see you at Breakingpoints 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:36.519 dot com. Good morning, everybody, Happy Thursday. We have an 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:38.800 amazing show for everybody today where we have Crystal. 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:42.040 Epstein, Epstein Epstein. So a whole lot of stuff went 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:45.400 down yesterday. Emily and I covered the initial emails that 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.800 were released from the House Oversight Committee. There is a 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.720 whole lot more that has dropped since then. In fact, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.919 people are still going through all of the material that's 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:54.840 been released, so we're going to go through as much 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:56.480 as we can. We're also going to break down for 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:00.360 you the White House's panic to response and how Bulkins 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.920 responded that discharge petition now has the requisite number of signatures, 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.959 so a whole lot for us to talk about there. 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.039 There is other news as well, though. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.360 We're going to dig into the landscape of the jobs 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:15.559 market after a very poor jobs report came out. Also 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:19.680 a fascinating and disturbing look at an Israeli company that 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.480 has been you know, brought up a ton of properties 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.520 here in the US and is just an absolutely terrible landlord, 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.240 and what that looks like, what the impact it is 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:31.280 having on our country. We're also taking a look at 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.720 the way the billionaires are reacting to Zorn's victory in 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.280 New York City, and also got some interesting comments from 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.479 Lena Khan about her role on the transition team there, 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.640 which is kind of fascinating as well. And today Starbucks 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.040 workers are going on strike. We are going to have 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.840 one of the leaders of that strike here in wait, 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.400 not here in studio, but live, you know, in spirit, 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.440 in essence, in spirit. She'll be in studio talking to 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.480 us about what they're going on strike for and what 0:01:58.520 --> 0:01:59.600 they're hoping to accomplish. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:01.760 So very interesting one today. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:02.440 Yeah, that's right. 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.680 Thank you everybody who has been subscribing breakingpoints dot com. 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.560 If you can help support the show, we deeply appreciate it. 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.080 If you are able to. 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So all right, 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.560 let's go ahead and start then with the Trump White 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:39.240 House panicked reaction to the Epstein files, acting guilty as hell, 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:43.360 if I might say, with their initial reaction, working incredibly 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.360 hard to try and stop a discharge petition from hitting 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:49.440 the House floor, which would require a release of the 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.639 Epstein files. So this was their initial reaction to those 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:54.280 releasing of the emails. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:55.560 Here is what they had to say. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:57.600 Can you address their substance? 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.240 Did the President ever spend hours at Jeffrey Epstein's house 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:02.360 with a victim? 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.919 These emails proved absolutely nothing other than the fact that 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:08.799 President Trump did nothing wrong. 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.079 Why not just go ahead release the full files on Epstein? 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:15.520 Get this all over with, we have this administration has 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.760 done more with respect to transparency when it comes to 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:22.559 Jeffrey Epstein than any administration ever. And it was CBS's 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:26.480 own reporting WIJA that recently wrote that Miss Guffery maintained, 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.840 and God rest her soul, that she maintained that there 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.040 was nothing inappropriate. She ever witnessed that President Trump was 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.440 always extremely professional and friendly to her. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.880 If the President is considering a pardon for a going maxwell. 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.400 Again, he's answered this repeatedly, it's not something he's talking 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.480 about or even thinking about at this moment in time. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.520 I can assure you of that, all right. So that's 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.760 the reaction there, DVEs up there. Oh, we've done absolutely 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.160 nothing wrong. You know, these emails prove nothing other than 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.640 the fact that he did absolutely nothing wrong. 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.080 I don't know about that, all right. 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.760 I mean these are Look, I was willing to believe 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.280 here's the theory, and I think this is a reasonable one. 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.880 Trump's been on the problem the scene since what twenty fifteen, Right, You're. 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:06.960 Like, oh, if anything had come out, it would have 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:07.480 come out. Right. 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.000 He's one of the most heavily scrutinized people. You've got 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.240 all these me too, lawsuits, etc. It's not exactly like 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.120 he was a choir boy in his tabloid lifestyle. So 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.760 it seemed like whatever was out in the open was 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.640 out in the open. But man, I mean, you read 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.120 some of this stuff and we're going to spend a 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:23.160 decent amount of time here. 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.600 It's not looking good there for mister Trump. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.360 At the very least, it does prove, at the very least, 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:36.120 their behavior only validates what could be the theory behind it, 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.800 right about running scared, in my opinion, and I think 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.960 any reasonable person could see that we had the letter 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.800 that initially came out from Trump which said you know, 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:48.240 or the letter the drawing or whatever from the birthday book. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:49.800 They said it was fake. It was obviously real. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.400 It's been vindicated as real ever since then. Not that 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.200 maga's ever acknowledged that, but you know, the release a 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.240 lot of these emails just suggests like a very close 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:02.080 intimate relationship. AP have been bullshitting like yeah, maybe, but 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.400 you know, at this point, like you basically have no 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.280 choice but to fully release everything if you actually want 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:11.040 to be quote vindicated, And we're whipping this hard against it, 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.080 Like I don't know how a reasonable person couldn't say. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.480 It does look like you're at trying to cover up something. 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.760 I don't really have another explanation for. 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:19.360 It, do you know. 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.000 I mean, you put together what we're going to go 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.839 through that has been revealed in these emails, which is 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:30.960 highly suggestive and suggestive of a longer term relationship. Remember 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.880 Trump said that he had cut off all relations all, 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.840 you know, friendship, any sort of communication with Epstein long ago. 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.800 These emails would certainly seem to indicate otherwise. That's number one. 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:43.960 So you put together, you know, some of the content 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:49.080 of the emails with the incredibly guilty, panicked way that 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.440 they're reacting to this vote that could potentially, in the 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:56.640 future lead to a further Epstein files release. And you 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.880 put that together with the cushy treatment of Goingane Maxwell, 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:05.200 who's sitting in club fed, playing with puppies, getting special 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:09.320 meals and filing her application for commutation of her sentence. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.599 Why because he's afraid of what she has on him, 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.039 what she could say. It appears she was leaking to 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:16.560 the press. I mean, I think that's a you know, 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:20.120 pretty reasonable assumption at this point, not proven, but reasonable. 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.760 Those leaks stopped once she got her special treatment, and 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.040 so they're they're trying to keep her quiet, they're trying 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.599 to keep the Republicans in line and failing, by the way, 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:35.360 and you know, acting guilty as hell, while more and 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.200 more comes down as people are going through these emails 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:42.800 about what Trump knew, what Epstein thought he had on Trump. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.200 I mean he outright says I could I could destroy him, 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.560 like I have you know, dirt on him that could 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.800 end his political career. He says, I'm the only one 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:56.239 effectively who could do that. So, yeah, it's and all 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.600 those you know, lives of TikTok and all these people 0:06:58.640 --> 0:06:59.960 are very interested in this stuff. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.160 Suddenly they got nothing to say nothing. 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.000 A friend of mine asked me about it yesterday and 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.800 I said, here was the stupidity of these people, is 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.040 they believe that when we said the richest and most powerful, 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.240 they were like, oh, well, that's just Democrats. And the 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.080 whole point was it was never just democrats, right, And 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.120 I mean, no, one's why watching Democrat Larry Summers, Bill 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.880 Clinton and all that stuff. We'll show all listen in 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.200 the next segment about emails. I'm going to go through 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.960 all of these like Titans of Industry, donors, you know, 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.800 Larry Summers, Clinton, all these other folks that were ensnared, 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.480 you know in the Epstein story. Nobody I have no 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.280 problem talking about that. I don't even think a lot 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.480 of the liberals who are now interested or have any 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.560 issues talking about that either. The issue here is the 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.680 centrality of Trump himself. And I think, you know, his 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.160 best case could probably be, well, I knew he liked 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:50.840 young girls. 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:52.400 It was a different time. 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:56.720 Yes, I fooled around with many women, and Epstein was 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:00.000 aware of that, but he chose instead to be like, oh, 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:01.840 I threw him out of mar A Lago because I 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:02.679 thought he was a creep. 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:05.800 Threw him I barely know. Like this is just obviously 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:06.240 not true. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.960 Okay, So and that's really what the email I mean, Look, 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.239 the emails only validate. 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.880 I mean, there's photos, right, there's the NBC News report. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.320 There's the quote of like Jeffrey, like Simiongi is a 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.960 very active social ethe they gave in two thousand and two, 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:18.560 Like these. 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.160 Are all on the record. It was already well established. 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:22.360 Asked birthday book. 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.160 Yeah, the birthday book thing? When was that two thousand 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.080 and six, right, I mean, so you can see like 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.520 this wasn't that long ago. It was like twenty some 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.840 years ago. Not to mention not only the letter from 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:33.600 the Trump birthday book. You remember the whole like the 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.960 gifting of the girlfriend thing with the check signed by Trump, 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:37.880 which is also. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:39.720 This is not a reference in these emails. 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.280 Reference in the emails. Let's just get to what Trump 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:44.080 said here about the Epstein thing. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:45.800 Let's put that up here on the screen. This was 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:47.320 an initial truth. Uh. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.720 The Democrats are trying to bring up the Jeffrey Afterting 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.160 hoax again because they'll do anything at all to deflect 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.240 how badly they've done on the shutdown so many other subjects. 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.760 Only a very bad or stupid Republican would fall into 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.400 that trap. The Democrats cost our country some one point 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.880 five trillion dollars with their recent antics of viciously closing 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:05.800 our country. They should pay a fair price. There should 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.040 be no deflections to Epstein or anything else. Any Republican 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.640 involved should be focused only on opening up our country 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.959 and fixing the massive damage caused by the Democrats. So 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:19.080 this was in response to a few of those Republicans 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:23.120 who ended up signing that discharge petition, and that distart petition, 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.200 by the way, does now have the requisite two hundred 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.960 and eighteen votes. Thomas Massey says that even if a 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.880 representative were to die, that their signature will live. 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.839 In the petition. So that's a distart petition. 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:35.680 They can't kill anyone to fix their problem. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.880 It's actually pretty interesting about distarct justsprottestioning are quite rare. 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.640 They're famously you know, he was using this Civil Rights Act. 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.520 It's one of those things where two hundred and eighteen 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.800 votes you need a majority of people to vote in 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.440 order to circumvent leadership. It's actually very hard to do 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.280 to get two hundred and eighteen signatures on a discharge petition. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.800 So it just shows you how extraordinary this thing is. 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.559 Massy also indicating that some forty or fifty Republicans will 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.400 probably end up voting for the Epstein resolution despite the 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.080 fact that White House is whipping so hard against us. 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:03.720 Let me put the next one up here on the screen, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.520 just again to show you the extraordinary measures that the 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.000 Trump White House is using. So quote, Trump ramps up 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.440 the pressure on the GOP to fort in Epstein vote. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:15.000 So two of the individuals, Representative Nancy Mace and Representative 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.120 Lauren Bobert, signed the vote on releasing the Epstein positions. 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.600 Because of course, you know, they were people who not 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.079 only ran talked about it like a lot over the 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.480 last few years, and they wanted to be consistent. They 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:31.400 were summoned. Bobert was summoned to the White House Situation Room. 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.280 All right, the White House situation room. That is not normal. Like, 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.679 let me just explain here, Like the situation room briefings 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.320 are for something that can only take place in a skiff. 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.840 Is what is a secure compartmentalized information facility. You can't 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.360 bring your phone in if you just watch House of 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.440 Dynamite right there you go. So that's what the White 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.280 House Situation Room. It has a variety of It's like 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.439 a whole complex down in there in the White House, 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.360 a lot of briefing rooms, meeting rooms. But in that 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.280 same day, she was summoned to a meeting with the 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.520 Attorney General and the f behind directors. So these are 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.640 the top law enforcement officials of the whole United States government. 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:09.400 We're sitting in the White House Situation Room providing a briefing. 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:13.000 I'm like, okay, so what does that all tell you? You've 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.280 got very sensitive information that being briefed here to a 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.199 member of Congress presumably you know, in a security with 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.400 a security clearance. Honestly, you know, when I see something 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.480 like that, I'm like, that's just flashing intell, right, anything 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:29.560 that's unclassified normal political meeting. There's a shitload of meetings 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.480 in the rooms in the White House. Okay, there's an 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.640 entire complicate of the EEO basis, So there's a lot 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:34.560 of meeting space over there. 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.319 There's so I've been down there. 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.720 There's so many meetings that can happen in a non 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.320 classified setting. So the fact that this happened in the 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:45.360 situation room really was like a whoa moment, right, because 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:49.320 I'm like, wow, so this goes to classified setting. They 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.160 don't want her to bran briefing, or they don't want 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.520 to bring her phone in. Presumably she probably didn't have 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.480 any staff that were allowed in there. This is like 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:58.640 clearance to the max of things. And I actually don't 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:03.040 think the press is doing a good job about explaining how. 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.120 Crazy it is to bring someone of the White situation. 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:06.239 How absolutely extraordinary. 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.160 And the reason is the clock was taking to four 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.880 o'clock because remember, first of all, Mike Johnson shut down 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:13.280 the House entirely. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:14.800 For four fifty something days. 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:19.400 Ridiculous amount of time just to forestall this potential discharge petition. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:23.880 Then Adelie de Grialva was elected almost two months ago, 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.760 and he was just like, yeah, not going to swear 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.880 her in, just not going to swear her in because 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:33.640 she would be that two hundred and eighteenth vote. So finally, 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.520 with actually the end of the shutdown, he could no 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:40.000 longer justify putting that off. And so she was going 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.000 to be sworn in at four o'clock and sign onto 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:45.360 the discharge petition immediately. And so the clock was taking 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.640 down four o'clock and the Trump and you know, his 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:54.080 administration cronies full court press press. I can only imagine 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.280 the level of pressure that was exerted on Nancy Mace 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.280 and on Lauren Broke Bobert and whoever else they thought 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.200 they might be able to get to withdraw their. 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.040 Name and to cave. And at the end of the 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:07.040 day they did it. 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.440 None of the Republicans took their name off, which is 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.760 an incredible sign I think of the weakness of this 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.480 White House at this point. You know, I think, but 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.960 maybe even just weeks ago before the election results, you 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.360 might have been able to bully some of your Republicans 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.680 who asside onto this petition to walk. 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:26.000 Away from it. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.440 But now Trump's popularity is going down and down and down. 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.160 You've got Americans who are very unhappy with the economy. 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.600 You know, you've got so much. So many of these 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.560 people talk so much about the Epstein files and have 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.880 so much of their reputation on the line with regard 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.080 to how they handle all of this, and so all 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:45.360 of them held firm. Bobert put out pretty entertaining, honestly 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.880 tweet after this full court press came from. 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:49.360 The White House. 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.400 She says, I want to thank White House officials for 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.560 meeting with me today. Together, we remain committed to ensuring 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.640 transparency for the American people. With the little American flag 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.880 emoji translation being sorry, not gonna bend keeping my name 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.200 on here, and yeah, thanks for your time, thanks for 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:06.960 wasting your time. 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:10.480 Yeah, I mean, I look, it's interesting Bobert has been 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.360 out of the news kind of lately over the last 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.040 two years. She was like one of our Yeah there's 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.760 no more of Beetlejuice, and yeah, she inspired my Beatle 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.840 Juice costume two years ago. Shout out to Laura for 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.200 that one. But it is interesting to me that she 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.480 is sticking with this. But also, I mean, if you're 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.960 a Republican, if you're MTG Lauren Bobert, remember Lauren berber 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.680 barely won reelection. You remember how close that race was. 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.280 It was like it was nothing right. 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.960 Yeah, and her antics really I think cost her part 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:38.960 of the reason why she's been a little bit more silent. 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.200 But if you're MTG Bobert, any of these people, you 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:44.160 got to run for reelection again, like you know MTG 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.080 for example. I'm not saying she'll lose her district, but Georgia, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.640 look at what just happened with those power elections. You 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.640 got two Democratic senators rep in the state. You got 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.840 you know, Democrats who are on the rise. You've got 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.920 your own political future here here to worry about. And 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.600 so the White House nearly as powerful. Trump is acting 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.120 like a real lame duck lately in a way that 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.320 I don't think a lot of people are fully appreciating. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.200 And the fact that he lost this actually does demonstrate, 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.400 in my opinions, some of the lack of hold he's 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.600 going to lose or the hole that he's going to lose. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.160 Increasingly a lame duck. I mean really is starting to 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:16.760 be a lame duck. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.040 He is quite literally a lame duck running for office. 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.760 And then you know, the more look at w w's 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.000 hold on the party. After six people were like, yeah, thanks, 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:26.200 thanks for calling, mister president. 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:27.960 Yeah, no, I don't care what you really have to say. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:28.720 Yeah. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.720 So the four Republicans who signed on were Massey, who, 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.400 of course partner with Rocannon, has really been you know, 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.240 leading the charge here, Marjorie Taylor Green, and then the 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.480 two that we just mentioned, Lauren Bohmert and Nancy May. 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:40.960 So I think the White House knew there was no 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.760 chance they were going to get MTG. Certainly not Thomas Massey. 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.480 That ship has hailed. So those were the two. And 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.400 apparently what it looked like is that Nancy May just 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.480 basically didn't answer their calls. It's just like, yeah, I'm 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.040 just not going to pick up the phone right now. 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.280 And so they were the two that made to eighteen. 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.760 There is another Democrat who's likely to be sworn in 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:04.560 in January. So even if they got Bobert off of 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.040 the discharge petition, which obviously they failed to do, then 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.360 in you know, another month or two, you're going to 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.600 have another Democrat who comes into the House who would 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.680 have still made to eighteen. But you know, it's also 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:18.360 interesting that they are so threatened by this because number one, 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.000 I mean, it's their government. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.000 Who has control over these documents. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.680 Like, does anyone here think that they would be above 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.280 like messing with it and scrubbing them of any sort 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:30.040 of unflattering information that could come out. I certainly don't 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.880 think that they're above that. The amount of material do 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.600 you're talking about here, though, makes that job very difficult 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.320 to be able to effectively do. 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:39.040 So. 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:43.040 Obviously they're worried about what may be contained in whatever 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:47.040 government information exists about Jeffrey Epstein, which you know, given 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.000 Ryan and MOS's reporting over at Dropside about all the 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.560 Intel connections and just absolutely confirming he was an Israeli 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:54.360 intel asset. 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.400 Also by the way he was talking to the Russians. 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.920 I mean he was, you know, any sort of powerbroker 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.600 in the world that he could ingratiate himself with, he 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.399 was certainly doing that. So no doubt the CIA has files. 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.760 We know that FBI has files, like they have financial records, 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.080 like there is a lot of information that our government 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.720 has about this man. But in any case, you know, 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:14.679 so Number one, you think, okay, well, they've got some 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.200 time to like scrub out whatever it is they don't 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.960 want to come forward, and nobody thinks that they're above that. 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.720 Number two, it still has to pass the Senate. And 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.600 then even and then even if it gets through the Senate, 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.320 Trump still has to sign it, and he's not going to. 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:32.720 So then you have to how many votes you have 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.840 to get in the Senate to overcome a veto sixty. 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:35.920 Or sixty six? 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.800 Well, to overcomes that would. 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:42.480 Sixty six, right, Yeah, So I mean very unlikely that 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.040 you would be actually able to get sixty six members 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:49.280 of the Senate to go against Trump and override his veto. 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.280 But in the meantime, you have this story that is 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.360 just festering and more and more stories like what we're 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.160 talking about today of just incredibly guilty behavior. 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:00.520 You have every Republican both. 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.680 In the House and in the Senate, having to go 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.760 on the record of trying to like protect a pedophile, 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:10.800 protect a ring of global ring of pedophile elites, not 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.400 exactly votes that they want to take. So I think 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.840 that explains why, even though it is very unlikely that 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.679 we actually get to a point where you know, this 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.520 succeeds in the House, succeeds in the Senate, Trump signs it, 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.120