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Speaker 2: Epstein, Epstein Epstein. So a whole lot of stuff went

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Speaker 2: down yesterday. Emily and I covered the initial emails that

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Speaker 2: whole lot more that has dropped since then. In fact,

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Speaker 2: as we can. We're also going to break down for

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Speaker 2: you the White House's panic to response and how Bulkins

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Speaker 2: responded that discharge petition now has the requisite number of signatures,

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Speaker 2: so a whole lot for us to talk about there.

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Speaker 4: There is other news as well, though.

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Speaker 2: We're going to dig into the landscape of the jobs

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Speaker 2: market after a very poor jobs report came out. Also

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Speaker 2: a fascinating and disturbing look at an Israeli company that

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Speaker 2: has been you know, brought up a ton of properties

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Speaker 2: and what that looks like, what the impact it is

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Speaker 2: having on our country. We're also taking a look at

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Speaker 2: the way the billionaires are reacting to Zorn's victory in

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Speaker 2: New York City, and also got some interesting comments from

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Speaker 2: which is kind of fascinating as well. And today Starbucks

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Speaker 2: workers are going on strike. We are going to have

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Speaker 2: one of the leaders of that strike here in wait,

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Speaker 2: not here in studio, but live, you know, in spirit,

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Speaker 2: in essence, in spirit. She'll be in studio talking to

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Speaker 2: us about what they're going on strike for and what

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Speaker 4: So very interesting one today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Here the Epstein stuff here today, I know a lot

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Speaker 3: of people are interested in that who may not even

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Speaker 3: go ahead and send to a friend. So all right,

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Speaker 3: let's go ahead and start then with the Trump White

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Speaker 3: House panicked reaction to the Epstein files, acting guilty as hell,

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Speaker 3: if I might say, with their initial reaction, working incredibly

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Speaker 1: Here is what they had to say.

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Speaker 4: Can you address their substance?

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Speaker 2: Did the President ever spend hours at Jeffrey Epstein's house

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Speaker 2: with a victim?

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Speaker 5: These emails proved absolutely nothing other than the fact that

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Speaker 5: President Trump did nothing wrong.

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Speaker 1: Why not just go ahead release the full files on Epstein?

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Speaker 5: Get this all over with, we have this administration has

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Speaker 5: done more with respect to transparency when it comes to

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Speaker 5: Jeffrey Epstein than any administration ever. And it was CBS's

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Speaker 5: own reporting WIJA that recently wrote that Miss Guffery maintained,

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Speaker 1: If the President is considering a pardon for a going maxwell.

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Speaker 5: Again, he's answered this repeatedly, it's not something he's talking

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Speaker 3: I can assure you of that, all right. So that's

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Speaker 3: Trump's been on the problem the scene since what twenty fifteen, Right, You're.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, if anything had come out, it would have

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Speaker 3: He's one of the most heavily scrutinized people. You've got

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Speaker 1: It's not looking good there for mister Trump.

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Speaker 3: At the very least, it does prove, at the very least,

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Speaker 3: their behavior only validates what could be the theory behind it,

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Speaker 1: They said it was fake. It was obviously real.

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Speaker 3: It's been vindicated as real ever since then. Not that

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Speaker 3: lot of these emails just suggests like a very close

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Speaker 3: you know, at this point, like you basically have no

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Speaker 3: Like I don't know how a reasonable person couldn't say.

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Speaker 3: It does look like you're at trying to cover up something.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you put together what we're going to go

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Speaker 2: highly suggestive and suggestive of a longer term relationship. Remember

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Speaker 2: Trump said that he had cut off all relations all,

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Speaker 2: you know, friendship, any sort of communication with Epstein long ago.

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Speaker 2: These emails would certainly seem to indicate otherwise. That's number one.

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Speaker 2: So you put together, you know, some of the content

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Speaker 2: Why because he's afraid of what she has on him,

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Speaker 2: about what Trump knew, what Epstein thought he had on Trump.

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Speaker 2: I mean he outright says I could I could destroy him,

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Speaker 2: those you know, lives of TikTok and all these people

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Speaker 4: Suddenly they got nothing to say nothing.

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Speaker 3: A friend of mine asked me about it yesterday and

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Speaker 3: the next segment about emails. I'm going to go through

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Speaker 3: all of these like Titans of Industry, donors, you know,

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Speaker 3: Larry Summers, Clinton, all these other folks that were ensnared,

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Speaker 3: best case could probably be, well, I knew he liked

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Speaker 1: It was a different time.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I fooled around with many women, and Epstein was

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Speaker 1: Threw him I barely know. Like this is just obviously

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Speaker 3: Okay, So and that's really what the email I mean, Look,

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Speaker 4: This is not a reference in these emails.

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Speaker 3: Reference in the emails. Let's just get to what Trump

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Speaker 3: The Democrats are trying to bring up the Jeffrey Afterting

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Speaker 3: that trap. The Democrats cost our country some one point

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Speaker 3: who ended up signing that discharge petition, and that distart petition,

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Speaker 1: In the petition. So that's a distart petition.

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Speaker 4: They can't kill anyone to fix their problem.

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Speaker 3: They're famously you know, he was using this Civil Rights Act.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those things where two hundred and eighteen

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Speaker 3: covering up any of the Israel connections and any of

439
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 3: that stuff, you're like, oh.

440
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 1: Not the same new boss name is the old boss.

441
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 3: That's I mean, if anything, you asked me where Trump's

442
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 3: real like fault comes from in terms of like a

443
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 3: lot of his political popularity, it's the new boss name

444
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,719
Speaker 3: as the old boss mentality like Israel War continues, Ukraine

445
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 3: War unsolved. A lot of the foreign policy looks cookie cutter,

446
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,679
Speaker 3: neo Khan just like out of the last administration or anything.

447
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 1: I keep saying, he's like Biden.

448
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 3: That's the whole problem is if people hated by it,

449
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,239
Speaker 3: they don't want anything like that.

450
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 1: Oh, actually your life is fine.

451
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 3: Let me show you some bullshit chart about why the

452
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 3: S and P five hundred is up and that means

453
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 3: that your life is getting better. No, that's that's quite

454
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 3: literally the opposite. And I could go on, you know,

455
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 3: in every faster this this is I'm just talking about Epstein,

456
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 3: Brett Weinstein, you know, a major Maha guy.

457
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Speaker 1: He was recently on Rogan and he's.

458
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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, my husband, you know, failure like basically whenever

459
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 3: it comes to RFK Junior, right, And for them, mRNA

460
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,439
Speaker 3: was like a big thing, like like RFK being like

461
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to withdraw the mRNA vaccine. It's just it

462
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 3: has not happened, like literally period, end of story. They

463
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 3: can end up make all kinds of excuses and talk

464
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 3: about food dies and steak and shake all you want.

465
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 3: Like the singular thing that you said was going to

466
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 3: happen quite literally didn't happen. Tulsea's a D and I director.

467
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 3: She was supposed to come in and be a bomb thrower,

468
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 3: right yeah, oh okayah, where is she?

469
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: Everything?

470
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 3: All my reporting suggests is she's out on the outs

471
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: all right, CIA director John Ratcliffe, who's like much more

472
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 3: an establishment guy. He sees control. She you know, Trump

473
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 3: is mad at her about the Hiroshima video. She's like

474
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 3: a side character fighting for relevance right now. So that's

475
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 3: just this, you know, stacking on top of each other,

476
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 3: like the more revolutionary parts so called Magan all that.

477
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Speaker 3: It's been a year like the rubber hit the road,

478
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 3: and now you kind of know who's running the show.

479
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 3: So that's just that's why I think the Epstein story

480
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 3: continues to matter.

481
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Speaker 1: And I mean.

482
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Speaker 2: It's such a blow to his brand. Yeah, exactly cool.

483
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: And nobody gets how important a brand is more than

484
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and it is. I mean, it's a stating

485
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 2: blow to his brand as this renegade outsider going to

486
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 2: expose the corrupt elite, like think about the fantasies of QAnon.

487
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 4: You know, and the storm is coming and all this.

488
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 2: Idea that all the corrupt elites were going to be

489
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Speaker 2: swept up and arrested, and it was going to be

490
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Speaker 2: a new day and the sort of moral cleansing purification

491
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Speaker 2: was going to occur. And then it's like, no, actually,

492
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: this guy's not only going to cover up the Epstein files,

493
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 2: but he is in like all over the Epstein files.

494
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Speaker 4: He was this man's bestie.

495
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 2: For years and years and years, and you don't think

496
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 2: there was going to be anything there on him obviously,

497
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: not to mention, he always acted weird and shady when

498
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 2: he would get asked directly about it. He could never

499
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: give a straightforward, like unequivocal answer when he would get

500
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: asked about are you going to release the JFK files? Yes, absolutely,

501
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 2: Are you going to release the Epstein files? Well maybe

502
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: less so, there may be other you know, I don't

503
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: want innocent people to be harmed, blah blah blah. So

504
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: you know, it was always there if you wanted to

505
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 2: open your eyes and see it, but a lot of

506
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Speaker 2: people did not.

507
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Speaker 4: And so to your point about the damage to his.

508
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: Presidency, again, sort of like with the authoritarianism, you know

509
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: what people would put up with a lot of him

510
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 2: being shady and buddies with Jeffrey Epstein and all over

511
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: these emails and whatever. If they were like, but I

512
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 2: can buy a house, but you know, my kids' lives

513
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 2: look great now, their jobs are not actually going to

514
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: be stolen by a band of robots that are going

515
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: to destroy society.

516
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 4: My electric bill is going down.

517
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 2: Actually, like life is measurably better in you know ways

518
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 2: that I can that I am experiencing personally. If people

519
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: felt like things were going great, and yeah, I guess

520
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: the president was like, at the very least knew about

521
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: this ring, pedophile ring, and that the worst was directly

522
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 2: implicated in it.

523
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Speaker 4: Eh, what are you going to do?

524
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 3: Right?

525
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 4: It's the guy we got. At least my life is

526
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 4: getting better.

527
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: But when the president's a creep, the economy is cratering,

528
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 2: and you've got all this authoritarian bullshit, mass thugs in

529
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: the streets and all of that nonsense as well, and

530
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: the foreign policy landscape is an utter and complete disaster.

531
00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 2: Like when you put all of that to, what are

532
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: you giving people to hang on to? Some like you know,

533
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: owning the libs quote unquote based social media videos and

534
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: an announcement about stake and shake, Like that's that's what

535
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 2: we're supposed to hang our hat on. Here is the

536
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: Golden age. Oh congratulations. So, and I think for the

537
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: podcast world in particular, you know, Epstein obviously was a

538
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 2: major focal point, and it just was impossible for them

539
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 2: to really defend. So, you know, in terms of the

540
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: you know, some of the podcast bros that were directly

541
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: supportive of Trump going into this election, you know, that

542
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 2: really was the start of them having to start to

543
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 2: say some critical things and having to turn in a

544
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Speaker 2: somewhat different.

545
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 4: Direction, which is influential.

546
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying they're like the only reason

547
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: he got elected, but they do have power in society,

548
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 2: and especially with this group of.

549
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 4: Young men who were very important in the Trump coalition.

550
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: That's what people just you know, really just don't get.

551
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: And so, you know, bringing back to the point, I

552
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 3: actually think one of Trump's powers superpowers always was like

553
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: a directional honesty, is that he would lie kind of

554
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 3: tell the truth. And so do you remember, like in

555
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 3: the twenty fifteen campaign, that famous line when he was

556
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: like you think we're so innocent, you know, and it

557
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 3: was like wow, like nobody like that, nobody, no American

558
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: president has been like, yeah, we're shady, do right? And

559
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 3: everyone was like, yeah, exactly, He's right on a lot

560
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: of his divorces and his own conduct. You know, for years,

561
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: one of the superpowers was he had no shame. He

562
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 3: would just call the New York posts. I mean, don't

563
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: you remember some of those headlines like best Sex I

564
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 3: Ever had or whatever with Marla Maples.

565
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 4: He would pretend to be Yeah, he would pretend to

566
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 4: he's pr guy.

567
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: Right, these are He was absolutely shameless, and that's why

568
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: people were like, oh, he's lude and cheats on his wife,

569
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: Like yeah, so you know he's like, you never hit it,

570
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: yeah right, you never hid anything. So even here if

571
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 3: he was like yeah, I was friends with them, I

572
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: had a you know, some line about I had a

573
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: rambunctious youth even though he's like.

574
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Speaker 1: Fifty five at the time of something. Remember works right now.

575
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: It happened with me.

576
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 3: I interviewed RFK and I was like, hey, like this

577
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: nanny says that you know, you grew up her or whatever,

578
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: and he's like, I had a crazy youth.

579
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, what an answer. He was like yeah,

580
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: forty or right.

581
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 3: I was like, whoa, But I mean it worked, right,

582
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 3: and so for Trump, like that's a.

583
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: Twice divorced man who owned Miss.

584
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 3: Universe pageants and has a long history from you know,

585
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 3: from the tape of twenty sixteen and prior. Like that's

586
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: part of the reason I don't think the tape was

587
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 3: the hit that most people thought. He's like, he never

588
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 3: pretended to be anything that he wasn't, but in this

589
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 3: case he actually did kind of pretend, right. It was

590
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 3: friends with Epstein's obvious it does.

591
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: It's not a good look.

592
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 3: It could just say something like, yeah, you know, we

593
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: party with Chase girls together, but I never soon knew

594
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: or saw anything crazy at this point though, doubling, tripling down,

595
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: and especially I think, by the way, it's not just

596
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 3: about Trump, because Trump, as you say, is always gonna.

597
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: Be kind of ambiguous.

598
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 3: I think it's like Cash, Betel, Pam Bondi and Jade,

599
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: you know, all these other people who used Epstein to

600
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: political advantage, to rally people to their cause and then

601
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: they're silent, right, and that see that I actually think really.

602
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 4: Rubs or directly Cash, right, And so that's what.

603
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 3: Really bugs I mean, I can't can I say, like

604
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 3: for me in particular, watching like Cash and all them

605
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: literally gone podcasts, you know, tours talking about we know

606
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 3: exactly where the Epstein files are. And then Bro, you

607
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 3: come into office and you say, believe me, I would

608
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 3: tell you with your bug eyes.

609
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, it's like, no, I don't believe you.

610
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 4: Mart Cambondidy putting them on my desk.

611
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 2: Right nine weeks later, Oh, actually there are no Epstein

612
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: files and there's nothing to see here when we're moving on.

613
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: So it's like, well, which when time, when were you lying?

614
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: Because you did lie.

615
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 3: There's just no there's no world where you didn't lie.

616
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: Then you put some of the facts and all that

617
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 3: stuff together. So yeah, for year from part not years,

618
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: it's still have been a year, it feels like. But

619
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: for weeks there was this whole discourse about how MAGA

620
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 3: doesn't care about Epstein and.

621
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: Maybe that's true. But this is what I always say.

622
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 3: MAGA did not win Trump the election, all right, MAGA

623
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 3: is only like thirty three percent of the country. Eighty

624
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: something million people did vote for Donald Trump. He won

625
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 3: a popular vote victory in the election. Not all of

626
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: them are MAGA.

627
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: Go ask them.

628
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 3: They'll tell you I'm not MAGA, or I'm an independent,

629
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: or I was voting for this. That reason why the

630
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 3: coalition that they were the most proud of, and they

631
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: should be proud when young people vote for you. I

632
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: think that's inspiring because it's just like, oh, the next

633
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 3: generation believes in this stuff that I have to say.

634
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 3: I think this is important to them. I think it's

635
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: important to you. I think our show are long focused

636
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: on Epstein, and of course, I mean, won't lie. I've

637
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: been rewarded for it, you know, a lot, through ratings

638
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 3: and through all this other stuff. I think it's because

639
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: the reason why I became a podcast thing is because,

640
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: by the way, even to this day, you can't go

641
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 3: on CNN and just say he was an Israeli asset.

642
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: Like even then.

643
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 6: People will go why you but without evidence, sir, you're

644
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 6: speaking right, Like That's why it goes big on the podcast,

645
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 6: because we can just speak the way that every normal

646
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 6: person can look.

647
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: At the facts. Yeah, it's obvious.

648
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: The New York Times, I mean, one of the things

649
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: that comes out of these emails is that you have

650
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 3: a New York Times reporter who worked there for like

651
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: fifteen years who's basically working with Epstein to try and

652
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: quash different stories and talk about plaque.

653
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: Matt.

654
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: It's like, bro, what the fuck well, and that gets

655
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: to the point of you were saying your assumption was

656
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: basically like listen, they've been ounce to get try you know,

657
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: they've been wanting to take down Trump for a long time.

658
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: They this was something. If there was there there, something

659
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: would have come out. But that discounts how much these

660
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: media outlets were implicated, you know, in terms of the

661
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 2: cover up. It of course erases the number of Democrats

662
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: who are involved here as well. And so I think

663
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: it's the case that there was just a bipartisan disinterest,

664
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: like directly, you know, to going in their own self interest,

665
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: like we're just gonna not talk about this. One of

666
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: the emails is where Epstein and Michael Wolf are going

667
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: back and forth about like, oh, I think CNN in

668
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen is going to ask Trump a question about you,

669
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: and so they're like brainstorming, you know, well, what would

670
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: be the perfect answer. And by the way, Wolf, I

671
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: think it is suggests that hopefully Trump will say some

672
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: things that are untrue because then you'll have leverage on him.

673
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: I mean directly plotting like here's how we're gonna hear

674
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: We've this president is compromised, and it'd be good for

675
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: us with this potential president at that point, conference would

676
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: be good for us. If we have some dirt on him,

677
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: we can use it to our own advantage here. But

678
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: in any case, then i'd announced that question.

679
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, I noticed that.

680
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 4: They didn't end up asking that question.

681
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: So somewhere along the way, if if they were planning to,

682
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: that particular question got spiked and didn't make it in.

683
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: So that's why we can be all these years later

684
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: and you feel like, you know it must know everything

685
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: there is to know about Donald Trump, and we.

686
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 4: Are learning more and more and more.

687
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not cynical enough because you know, intellectually, you know,

688
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: you read the Manson book, right, the Tom was I'm

689
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: totally blanking on the name, but it's an incredible book.

690
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: You read that Tom O'Neil, that's his name, the guy

691
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: who wrote the book. You read that Manson book and

692
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: you're like wow. So even forty years later, people will

693
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: cover the shit up. And intellectually, I know JFK. For example,

694
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: it's been sixty something years since the assassination, and even

695
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: though we like basically know you know, the cover up

696
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: and the plots and all of that, but we don't

697
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: know for sure, right, like we know enough to reasonably

698
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: guess an say, it all obviously points in one direction,

699
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: but in real time it's like even when you're a

700
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: very cynical person like me, you're like, oh, yeah, I

701
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: assume something would have.

702
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: Come out, you know, by now, And I'm like, I

703
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: don't know. Man.

704
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: You look at the CNN stuff, the New York Times

705
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: and you're like, yeah, it's like, you know, to borrow

706
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: my own words. When we said the richest and most

707
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 3: powerful people, we meant it. And it really is a

708
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: conspiracy of silence, of intelligence, of just like the sketchiest

709
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: the sketchiest stuff, and you know that what comes through

710
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: to the emails to me. And again I knew this

711
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 3: at an intellectual level, but the depraved nature through which

712
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: these guys act in private is so disgusting. I don't

713
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: care what time it is, like what time period, and

714
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: even if it was twenty years ago. Like when you

715
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: read that Birthday book, remember that one about the guys

716
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: with mass On talking about raping rape fantasies, You're like,

717
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Like that's not normal, Like that's that's really

718
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: really not normal.

719
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean and psychotic.

720
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Speaker 2: Ninety violent of the Birthday book entries all about his

721
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: like sex life, and I mean, yeah, and what we

722
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: was for his fiftieth birthday?

723
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 4: Is that right?

724
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: It's like, I mean discussing that was like when that

725
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: came out, I was like, oh, QAnon was.

726
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: Actually that's what I'm saying.

727
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: You're talking about directional crack.

728
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they were just wrong to put Trump as

729
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: their hero at the center of that story. And I think,

730
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: you know, some of them are realizing that. I mean,

731
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green was a Q and On person and

732
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: now here she is signing onto the discharge petition, very

733
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: much at odds with Trump and kind of in the

734
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: crosshairs from the administration. But you know, when you think

735
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: about Trump's life and the characters he ran with, not

736
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: just Epstein, John Casablancas, who was you know, pioneer in

737
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: making the modeling industry basically like a global human trafficking

738
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: industry and exploiting these young girls known pedophile himself, and

739
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: Trump was close with him. And you know, Trump had

740
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: his own modeling agency and you know, reportedly modeled some

741
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: of his practice. Is after Casablancis puts his own daughter,

742
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: by the way, in this industry, when she's like thirteen,

743
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: fourteen years old, which given what you had to know

744
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: about it, is so just beyond disturbing. He bragged about,

745
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: you know, in his beauty pageants, how he could go

746
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: in and since he owned them, you know, he could

747
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: go into the dressing room and check out all these girls.

748
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 4: You know, there's now there's this reporting about the.

749
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: Party that he threw with that was supposed to be

750
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: with all these models, young models and a bunch of VIPs,

751
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: and then the only person he invites is Jeffrey Epstein.

752
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: All these girls who thought that this was going to

753
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: be their break and there'd be a bunch of like rich, famous,

754
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: you know, influential people that they could and you know,

755
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: get hired for gigs, et cetera. And then it's just freakin'

756
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. We know without a doubt that

757
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: they were super close friends for years and years.

758
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 4: You know, all of this is out there.

759
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: Trump himself confirmed that Virginia Gouffrey worked at mar A

760
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: Lago and Gallaine Maxwell comes in and you know, and

761
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: takes her and that's how she ends up being in

762
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: the Epstein world and herself being trafficked and abused. So,

763
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: you know, once you start to open your eyes to

764
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: all of these things, and then it just really be

765
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: and then we'll get into the emails. Here, it really

766
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: bears underscoring why this matters. Obviously from a moral character perspective,

767
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 2: it matters a lot. Okay, that's one thing. We're talking

768
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: about a president of the United States who was compromised

769
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: by an Israeli intelligence asset.

770
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 4: That's what we're talking about here.

771
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 2: I mean, whatever Trump is afraid of coming out right now,

772
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: he knew that Jeffrey, whatever deep dark secrets he has

773
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: that he doesn't want to come out, which I think

774
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: is undeniable at this point given what we know and

775
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: his behavior. He knew that Jeffrey Epstein and Glene Maxwell,

776
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: by the way, had that information on him. And you

777
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: have to assume, whether it's true or not, that that

778
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: information was shared with the Israelis. You have to assume

779
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: that we know, and Ryan brought this up, that the

780
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 2: Israelis use the Monica Lewinsky tapes against Clinton to coerce

781
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: his behavior.

782
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 4: Oh, you think you think they're above.

783
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: Of course, not like that's there. That's their whole mo o.

784
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: So we have in the White House. It looks like

785
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: someone who is compromised by Israel. And you know, there

786
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: was all the Russia Gates stuff in the first administration

787
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: to theorize and by the way, you know, there's also

788
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: emails here between Epstein talking about his like you know,

789
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: diplomacy with Russian leaders as well. So I think it

790
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: actually is fair for to assume that Trump thinks that

791
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: they probably do have something on him as well. But

792
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 2: you know, in a lot of ways, everybody was looking

793
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: in the wrong direction. So that's why, you know, the

794
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: Trump focus here is so important, because this is such

795
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: an incredit. I mean, this is the president of the

796
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: United States, maybe the most powerful person in the world,

797
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: and you have to assume that he thinks Israel has

798
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: some sort of devastating dirt on him.

799
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: There's only one way to prove that you don't, which

800
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: is by releasing it.

801
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: All.

802
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: That's the only way at this point to prove that

803
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 3: you don't. And I think that's why, I mean, I

804
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 3: get extraordinarily I know that the stuff sounds O spiandish,

805
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: but it's like, dude, you know, if you look like

806
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 3: you're in full blown cover up here, you know, either

807
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: for yourself or your friends or whatever, it's like, yeah,

808
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: this is politics. People are going to assume the absolute worst,

809
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 3: like you set up the conditions through which people are

810
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 3: going to assume that type of stuff.

811
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I mean, it's it's dark. It's

812
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: very very dark.

813
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 3: Turning out of the emails themselves, which we've been teasing

814
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: here for a little while, let's actually get into some

815
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: of them. Crystal and Emily went into the three big

816
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: ones that happened yesterday, which you'll recall, but it's actually

817
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: worth knowing. The House Oversight Committee ended up releasing some

818
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: twenty two thousand new pages. Now, I want to say

819
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: at the top. Part of the difficulty for people like

820
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: us is that they have put them out as individual images,

821
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: not as searchable PDFs.

822
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: So we have to individually go through all.

823
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: Twenty two thousand files and it would take weeks, if

824
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: not months to actually go and read on my best,

825
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: and we have collated a lot of stuff here that

826
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: various researchers and all of them have flagged. We're going

827
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: to give you a fullsome taste here of some of

828
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 3: the Trump stuff that remains in the email.

829
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: So let's put the first one up here on the screen.

830
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: This is B two.

831
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 3: Actually, guys, let's just jump ahead to there. Jeffrey Epstein was.

832
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 3: This was a June of twenty nineteen email where they

833
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: Epstein says specifically, quote, recall Prince Andrew's accuser came out

834
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 3: of mar A Lago. So this is Virginia Gouffrey. And

835
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: this is in a text chain that was with Steve Bannon.

836
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: So this is from July of two thousand and June

837
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: of twenty nineteen, and saying, quote, can't believe nobody is

838
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 3: making you the connective tissue. And he says specifically Prince

839
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: Andrew and Trump today too funny. So presumably there was

840
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: some meeting was happening between and that day, right, So

841
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: that's what Epstein and Bannon are like joking about. I mean,

842
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: this is only months before he's dead in federal prison

843
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: and indicted. Just flagging that one. Let's go to the

844
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: next one. This is nuts, okay. So this was a

845
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: email chain with Landon Thomas Junior, who is a New

846
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: York Times reporter who worked there for years, who it

847
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: turns out, had this deep and long relationship with Jeffrey Epstein,

848
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: and he's sending him some stuff specifically about the Trump campaign,

849
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: kind of asking him for some questions here about previous

850
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: BuzzFeed nude articles about Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, and what

851
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: he says is my twenty year old girlfriend in ninety

852
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: three comma that after two years I gave to Donald.

853
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: So what that shows is you'll recall Michael Wolfe and

854
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 3: others had talked specifically about this girlfriend that they appear

855
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 3: to have shared or whatever, who is twenty years old

856
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: in the year nineteen ninety three. There were several jokes

857
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 3: about that and being depreciated in the birthday book, which

858
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: you will also recall. Just again, you know, to show

859
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: some other relationship. Let's go to the next one. This

860
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: one is in emails with Michael Wolfe. The quote unquote journalist.

861
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

862
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: I mean the emails from wolf here are like a

863
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 3: secondary conversation how discussing that is. But anyway, he says, well,

864
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: I guess if there's anybody who can wave this away,

865
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 3: it's Donald. Let me know if there's anything I can do.

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00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: This is from Michael wolf This was about the lawsuit.

867
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Speaker 2: This is in relationship to the lawsuit from an accuser

868
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: I believe named Katie Johnson, who alleged that both Trump

869
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: and Epstein had raped her when she was twelve thirteen

870
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Speaker 2: years old.

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00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. So this was in a lawsuit.

872
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: He's talking about, Well, if anyone could wave this lawsuit away,

873
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: it's Donald.

874
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 4: I guess he was right.

875
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: Okay time anyway, next time, let's put this up here

876
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 3: on the screen. This is from Epstein to on Donald

877
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 3: Trump quote he feels alone and is nuts. I told

878
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: every day one evil beyond belief mad. So it sounds

879
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 3: like he had TDS. Most thought I was speaking metaphorically.

880
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 3: It's obvious he could crack Stormy Daniel's question mark lies

881
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: after lies.

882
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeffrey Epste lecturing you on morality, like what you

883
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: have gone seriously wrong somewhere in your life?

884
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: Next one, this is from twenty fifteen. Again landon Thomas Junior.

885
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: I think was fired because of his relationship with Epstein.

886
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: Right, And so he emails him about the infamous quote.

887
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: I've known Jeffrey Epstein for fifteen years and Epstein replies,

888
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: read the.

889
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: Uzzfeed must be buzzy BuzzFeed.

890
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: Ari airplane logs Hawaiian contest have them ask my houseman

891
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: about Donald Donald presumably almost walking through the door, leaving

892
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: his nose print on the glass as young women were

893
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 3: swimming in the pool.

894
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: He was so focused it walks straight into the door.

895
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: Pause on that one for a second because he's talking

896
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 2: about so they're talking about Trump.

897
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: Landon.

898
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: Thomas Junior says, now everyone coming to me thinking I

899
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: have juicy info on you and Trump. Because of this,

900
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: the story will never die, and then Epstein replies, read

901
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: the BuzzFeed, read my airplane logs and Hawaiian Trump contest,

902
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: so some sort of a jauty contest. And then have

903
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: them ask my houseman about Donald almost walking through and

904
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: leave as young girls blah blah blah. So anyway, he's

905
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: gesturing towards like some of the dirt that he would

906
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: have right that one.

907
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: In Trump exchange about that. Okay, yeah, that's that's what

908
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 3: Let's go to the next one. This was about Gilaine

909
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: and more or Sorry. This one was a very weird

910
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: email from a victim where they say I'm at the door.

911
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: I will wait for my time.

912
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: I don't want to come early to find Trump in

913
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: your house laughing emoji, laughing emoji. This is from twenty

914
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: seventeen in December. There is no evidence because Trump was

915
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: president at this time, about a visit. I mean you know,

916
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: you can't really go anywhere without the White House Press Corps.

917
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 3: But I guess they were still joking about it or

918
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: alluding to something while this at this time period with

919
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: one of the victims. Again it's this, I've seen these

920
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: being passed around. But I'm telling you, I mean, I

921
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: was covering the White House at this time. It's literally impossible,

922
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 3: like you can't go anywhere without the White House Press

923
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: Corps that was tagging along. So I don't think it's

924
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 3: likely at all. I mean, he was definitely at mar

925
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: A Lago a ton but Jeffrey Epstein, if he had

926
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 3: been at mar Alago at that time, that actually would

927
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: have been a story. Was under secret Service control. I mean, theoretically,

928
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: I guess possible, but very unlikely. This just seems to

929
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: me there's a lot of winking, nodding, joking, and Epstein

930
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: in the emails to me, he loves how important he

931
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: is of his relationship with everybody else, and he's constantly

932
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 3: alluding to the dirt that he has on everybody around him,

933
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: including Trump. Trump was one of the figures well that

934
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: he constily alludes to in.

935
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: And in confirmation of you know, one of the things

936
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: that has been posited about Jeffrey Epstein is basically like

937
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: he was using blackmail to make money, ingratiate himself with

938
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: the rich and powerful, keep himself out of trouble. And

939
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: you can see him using those tactics in this email,

940
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: saying basically, I've got you know, I could take down

941
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 2: this person. I've got information on that person. And then

942
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 2: you also see him having these high level meetings with

943
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: you know, heads of state and leaders from countries around

944
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: the world, so you really get you know, Trump included

945
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: in this, but even separate apart from Trump, you do

946
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: see how he really operates and the way that he

947
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 2: presents himself in these emails. You know, back to the

948
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: question about his connectivity with Trump, what's the year that

949
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: Trump claims he cut off all contact with Epstein was

950
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: like two thousand and four or something like that. Early Yeah,

951
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: early two thousands is when they supposedly, I think they

952
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: did actually have some kind of falling out over like

953
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: this mansion that they both wanted or some sort.

954
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: Of well it was that and also of Virginia Gouffrey being.

955
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 4: Stolen stolen from mar A Lago.

956
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't believe me, Trump said that.

957
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 4: Trump in Epstein.

958
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: You know, well he.

959
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: Literally terms it in these emails effectively in any case.

960
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: But you have some indications in these emails, this one

961
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: being one of them, but others as well, that Epstein

962
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 2: still wasn't in direct contact with Trump. He was certainly

963
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: in contact with Steve Bannon, who was you know, obviously

964
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: Trump World insider, a lot of questions for Bannon. We

965
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: knew that Bannon had all of these hours of Epstein

966
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 2: footage that has never been released. And then you see

967
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 2: him regularly texting back and forth with Epstein. Again, this

968
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 2: is you know, this is a long time Trump World

969
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 2: insider that is clearly continuing to communicate with Jeffrey Epstein

970
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: right up until he is dead. So you know that

971
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: exchange with regard to Prince Andrew that is I think

972
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: like a month before he ends up dead in a

973
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: prison cell. So all the way up to the end,

974
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: he was certainly connected directly to Trump World.

975
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 4: There's another email where.

976
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: Someone is asking him to pass some sort of a

977
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: video along to Donald Trump, suggesting that they at least

978
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: thought that he still had that kind of access. So

979
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: I think that's a really important piece of this too.

980
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: As we you know, put these pieces together, and you know,

981
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: you may I like what's going on with the Steve

982
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: Bannon thing. I mean think the most logical conclusion and

983
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: is that he wanted to keep Epstein close because reportedly

984
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: he had said that he knew that Epstein was the

985
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: one guy who could take Trump down and that he

986
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: was worried about going back to twenty sixteen. So I

987
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 2: think the probably logical conclusion is that he wanted to

988
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: keep this guy close and keep tabs on him to

989
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: make sure that nothing that was going to be damaging

990
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: to Trump was going to going to be coming out.

991
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: Let's good to be a this. This might be the

992
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 3: craziest one. Let's put it up here all the green. Okay,

993
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: Trump said he asked me to resign. Never remember ever.

994
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: Of course he knew about the girls, as he asked

995
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: Elaine to stop. That was one of those that was real.

996
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 4: Of course he knew about the girls.

997
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course he knew about that.

998
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 2: And that seems to confirm the Virginia Guffray at Marlatt

999
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: like that dovetails with that story about Virginia Guffray being cooed.

1000
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 3: To be fair, I will say what the MAGA people

1001
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: are all showing is what Virginia Guffray did testify under

1002
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: oath that she never saw Trump do anything wrong, which

1003
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: I don't think is all that exculpatory I get because

1004
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 3: for Trump, per se, because that's not really the alleged accusation.

1005
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: The accusation here was about knowing about this and some

1006
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: of the relationship that preceded. But did want to throw.

1007
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: But read this part from Michael wolf too, though, because

1008
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: so the first part of the exchange is this is

1009
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: when I believe they're talking about this potential CNN debate.

1010
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 4: Oh no, this is later. This is twenty two. Oh yeah,

1011
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen.

1012
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so twenty fifteen, they're talking about this potential CNN

1013
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: debate exchange and brainstorming how they would want Trump to respond,

1014
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: which again indicates that there's some way to get this

1015
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: information to him and to press him to respond when

1016
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: with or another And Michael Wolfe says, I think you

1017
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: should let.

1018
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 4: Him hang himself. Interesting choice of worts.

1019
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: If he says he hasn't been on the plane or

1020
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 2: to the house, then that gives you a valuable pr

1021
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: and political currency. You can hang him in a way

1022
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or if

1023
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,959
Speaker 2: it really looks like he could win, you could save

1024
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: him generating a debt. Of course, it is possible that

1025
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: when asked, I'll say, Jeffrey's a great guy and has

1026
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 2: gotten a raw deal and is a victim of political correctness,

1027
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: which is to be laud in a Trump regime. So

1028
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: here you have Michael Wolfe saying we should hope that

1029
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: Trump lies because then you have leverage over him, you

1030
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: have valuable pr and political currency, and if he wins,

1031
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: you could save him generating a debt. So again strategizing

1032
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: about how basically to wield this information against Trump and

1033
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: have power over him. And so that email was in

1034
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, and then the one above it is from

1035
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: a separate exchange about of course he knew Corstrup knew

1036
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 2: about the girls.

1037
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 4: He asked Elaine to stop.

1038
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 2: So extremely revealing there in terms of how how they

1039
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: were talking internally and how Epstein operates.

1040
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: Let's go to the next one, shall we. This was

1041
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: another pretty extraordinary one. This was this is a joke

1042
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 3: where he talks about it may not be a joke.

1043
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: He's sick.

1044
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: Quote Hillary doing naughties with Vince. So this is about

1045
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 3: Vince Foster. This is some nineteen nineties stuff if you've

1046
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: never gone down the road of the Vince Foster suicide.

1047
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: But he is alluding there body count well, I mean

1048
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: going to read it for yourself. It is objectively a

1049
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: crazy death. There's no getting around that. Let's get to

1050
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 3: be eleven, shall we? This was from Jeffrey Epstein to

1051
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: Peter Teel. Quote, subject that was fun, see you in

1052
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 3: three weeks. Just put a pin in that I will return,

1053
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 3: because it actually just tells you about how crazy his

1054
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 3: inner circle was.

1055
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: Go to B twelve? Shall we?

1056
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 3: This was another one, quote would you like photos of

1057
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: Donald and girls in bikinis in my kitchen? This is

1058
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 3: from December of twenty fifteen. Let's go ahead and skip

1059
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: to BE fourteen, just because I want to show everybody

1060
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: how deep he was still in DC. This is an

1061
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 3: October twenty seventeen email from Larry Summers, who remember is

1062
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: like former president of Harvard World Bank, Treasury secretary under Clinton,

1063
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 3: like as respected as a gats in liberal establishment circles,

1064
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: and Epstein's says, when we meet, I will endeavor to

1065
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 3: mesmerize you with stories of DC wild exclamation, exclamation, exclamation

1066
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 3: interesting B fifteen? Please these were all some of the

1067
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 3: ones that I was noting that I dug out. So

1068
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 3: here is Epstein keeping tabs on alex Acosta before alex

1069
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 3: Acosta's hearing. He says who will represent Acosta at hearing?

1070
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 3: And his lawyer, Roy Black, who by the way, helped

1071
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: Epstein with the sweetheart deal with Acosta, says he will

1072
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: be by himself, perhaps Trumpet maid to assist and to

1073
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 3: accompany him. The reason why that's noteworthy to me is

1074
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: number one, he's keeping tabs on Acosta at the hearing.

1075
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: Number Two, the alleged he belonged to intelligence quote about

1076
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 3: Acosta happened while he was being vetted. Allegedly, according to

1077
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: whoever leaked that story, that he belonged to intelligence quote

1078
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 3: happened while he was being vetted for his potential confirmation hearing,

1079
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 3: in the belief that he may have been asked about

1080
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: it at some point during that confirmation. So that's why

1081
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 3: it was important to me that he is keeping tabs

1082
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: on Epstein.

1083
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: B sixteen.

1084
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: Please, this just this is the perfect one for me

1085
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: because this just shows like, yeah, look, obviously Trump is

1086
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 3: headline because he's a president.

1087
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 1: But this is how deep the stufffall goes.

1088
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: So this is just twenty fourteen, just twenty fourteen, September

1089
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, during the UNNGA, when.

1090
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 1: You know the global elite is all in New York City.

1091
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: These were all of his meetings that he lists out,

1092
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: and please keep this on screen so I can read

1093
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: from them. Petertiel, Larry Summers, Bill Burns, CIA director, Gordon Brown,

1094
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister of Britain, Jaglin, who is a nobel

1095
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 3: committee person from Norway, the Mongolian president, the UAE leader,

1096
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 3: Katari leaders, Leon Black, that Apollo Hedge Fund guy who

1097
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: you know they had a long relationship with. That correspondence

1098
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 3: that he has back and forth is with Obama's recently

1099
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: departed White House Council, and he's listing like the Clinton people,

1100
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 3: the Security Council. He talks about the Climate summit that's

1101
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 3: happening there for the Clinton Global Initiative. Woody Allen right,

1102
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 3: Fairweather friends, I guess there between the two. But my

1103
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 3: point is just like you can see how deeply interconnected

1104
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 3: that he was into this global elite. Like it's not

1105
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: just Trump, it's like everybody, Indian prime Indian energy ministers,

1106
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 3: and just to flag here, the Mongolian president part is

1107
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 3: Remember one of the first stories that Ryan reported is

1108
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: that Epstein helped broker in Israeli security agreement between Israel

1109
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 3: and Mongolia. So here you have him meeting with this

1110
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: head of state around the same time that he's working

1111
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 3: on behalf of Israel to broker this security So this

1112
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: just confirmation of the drop site story number one.

1113
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: But number two. Look at the level of access that

1114
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: this guy just had. I mean, it's just so crazy.

1115
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 3: From prime ministers, CIA directors, billionaires, Nobel Committee, sultans of Dubai,

1116
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 3: people at Harvard, Woody.

1117
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: Allen, I mean, it's everywhere.

1118
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: It's entertainment, it's the presidency, it's finance, it's like at

1119
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 3: the highest levels of government, including you know, many of

1120
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 3: these people they never even answered, like Bill Burns when

1121
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 3: those stories came out. He was literally our CI director

1122
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: under Biden, and everyone was like, oh yeah, you know,

1123
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: and he was asking for career advice from Empstein in

1124
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 3: a lot of his emails. So it goes deep. Man,

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00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: it's an actual like this is a full blown conspiracy.

1126
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: And I want to be clear, I'm not alleging that

1127
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 3: they all have compromond or any of that stuff on them.

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00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 3: I really actually don't think that's the case. I think

1129
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: a lot of it was money influenced and power.

1130
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: That's enough.

1131
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 3: You and I have lived here long enough we know

1132
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 3: and people will just look past it. But what you

1133
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 3: I think I would hope most moral people are above

1134
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 3: is you usually google the people that you're associated with.

1135
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 3: They're just a registered sex offender at the end of

1136
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 3: the day, and none of them cared as long as

1137
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 3: you know you can get access to money into power.

1138
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 2: And to use the fact that other wealthy, famous people

1139
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: continue to associate with him to be like, well, I

1140
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: mean Bill Gates still hangs out with yea exactly, it.

1141
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 4: Can't be that bad.

1142
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 2: Like you know, these like Larry Summers or whoever, they

1143
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: still think that I'm cool, so it can't be that bad.

1144
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: One more that I just saw here this morning, because

1145
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 2: by the way, it's important to remember, as Soccer was saying,

1146
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: two thousand emails and messages got dropped yesterday and none

1147
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: of them are in a searchable format.

1148
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 3: So there's in a Google drive in image folders which

1149
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 3: are unsearchable, just so everybody knows.

1150
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: So what we just went through is the sampling of

1151
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: what has come out so far. There is going to

1152
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 2: be more okay. And so here's another one that I

1153
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: just am seeing for the first time, where it's Michael

1154
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: Wolf again going back and forth with Epstein talking about Trump.

1155
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: This is in early twenty eighteen, and so Epstein replies

1156
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 2: to him, the rich and powerful always send lawyers letters.

1157
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 2: A book about any one of them takes more time

1158
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 2: to publish as I must be, and I am meticulous

1159
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 2: about documentation. And backup, now again, maybe that's not true.

1160
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 2: There are some you know, indications from the FBI search

1161
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: of his townhouse and you know, victims saying that there

1162
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: were video recording, that there was cameras everywhere, et cetera.

1163
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: There are some indication that that is actually the case,

1164
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: but that that was the perception he wanted people to have,

1165
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: was that he was meticulous about documentation, that he was

1166
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: recording everything, that he was keeping track of everything, And

1167
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: so the reality of what he actually had or didn't

1168
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: have doesn't really matter. What matters is what powerful individuals

1169
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 2: like Trump think that he may have and assume that

1170
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: he must have, and assume that he must be sharing

1171
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: with various entities that he's also associated with. So, you know,

1172
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: I found I thought, I think that one is significant

1173
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: as well in terms of the way that he's portraying

1174
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: himself as this sort of like all knowing, all powerful

1175
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: with all the receipts to.

1176
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 4: Back it up kind of a guy.

1177
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 2: And so there's, you know, the power, the proximity to power,

1178
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 2: the genuine influence. I mean, the amount of now we've

1179
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: seen it honestly goes beyond what I expected. The amount

1180
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: of globe trotting power that he had to shape world

1181
00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: events is mind boggling to contemplate. So you have wealth,

1182
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: you have power, you have proximity to all of these elites,

1183
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 2: and then you throw in that you have dirt on

1184
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 2: any number of people that can make your life very difficult.

1185
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: Then you see how this conspiracy of silence develops and

1186
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: is sustained over so many years. And the last point

1187
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: I wanted to make here and by like I said before, there's.

1188
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 4: Going to be stuff that continues to come out. Whatever's new.

1189
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: We'll also put in the show tomorrow, the Friday Show

1190
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: tomorrow as well. But Jill Philippovic made a good point

1191
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 2: about these emails with this New York Times reporter.

1192
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 4: These were from his work account.

1193
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: So New York Times fired him because he had an

1194
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: inappropriate relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, so they knew that he

1195
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: was having this personal relationship. And these emails about Epstein

1196
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: and Trump have been sitting on New York Times servers

1197
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 2: presumably for all these years, and they just I guess,

1198
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: never bothered to think of that, never bothered to search

1199
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: the emails, never bothered to see if there was anything

1200
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: relevant there that they might want to look into and

1201
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: report out. And that is wild and gets to what

1202
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: you were saying, Sager about, like, how is it possible

1203
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: that none of this has.

1204
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 4: Come out before?

1205
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: You literally had the email sitting on New York Time

1206
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: servers and they did.

1207
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 4: Nothing with it.

1208
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, weird. Interesting?

1209
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: And look at Ryan right now reporting out all this

1210
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: stuff that any any reporter could get access to and

1211
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 2: report out, but they are the only ones who are

1212
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: doing it.

1213
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 4: Tells you a lot.

1214
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 3: I mean, this goes to the heart of the Epstein

1215
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 3: story from the day one. Remember Amy Roebach Morning America.

1216
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, add the story couldn't cover it. Actually, in

1217
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: some of those files, he is giving advice about how

1218
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 3: to help quash stories for the Royal Palace.

1219
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: When the Duke Andrew is in his emails being.

1220
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: Like please, I have nothing to do with this, Please

1221
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 3: quash this story for me and Epstein is like, if

1222
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 3: we help this, then we're going to be at you know,

1223
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 3: parties in Buckingham Palace for the next for the rest

1224
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: of our life.

1225
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: He literally says that in

1226
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: The emails Stark crazy stuff, crazy stuff, wild,