WEBVTT - Rice Around the World

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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, welcome to Always Hungry from My Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Bobby Flay, and I'm here with my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter and co host, and I'm Always Hungry. Sophie and

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<v Speaker 1>I gather around my stove to cook together. Well you cook,

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<v Speaker 1>I asked the questions, and eat the food and does

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<v Speaker 1>any food left? We come to the table together to

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<v Speaker 1>share a meal, connect as a family, and tell the

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<v Speaker 1>stories that matter to us. All right. So, so if

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about a very important ingredient, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most important ingredients worldwide. Rice. You know, rice is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things you know, don't take it for granted.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so incredibly important. You know, over half the world

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<v Speaker 1>considers it like their staple food. Someone you must feel

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<v Speaker 1>like every single culture has a rice culture when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to cuisine and um, you know, there's different different

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<v Speaker 1>sizes and shapes, and they're used for different things, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are cooked in different ways. You know, whether they're

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<v Speaker 1>long grain or medium grain or short grain. Rice is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the first kinds of rice that I think

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<v Speaker 1>about are, well, there's long grain rice. So you cook

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<v Speaker 1>like a pea life, so to speak. Basically, you know rice,

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<v Speaker 1>then you you can add some onions or garlic or

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<v Speaker 1>some aromatics to it or not. And then you add

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of liquid. It could be some sort of broth,

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<v Speaker 1>or it could just be water um some kind of stock,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you, you know, you you bring it to

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<v Speaker 1>a boil, you cover it, and you turn it down

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<v Speaker 1>to a simmer, and you you basically make fluffy rice.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, I think about you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>shorter green rice is rice? Is rice is plural? Or

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<v Speaker 1>is it rice plural? Is plural? Rice is plural? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I won't be saying, right, thank you for my

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<v Speaker 1>grammar lesson, Sophie, appreciate that. What's the difference between brown

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<v Speaker 1>rice and white rice? That's it? I mean no, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, look, I mean rice is basically

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<v Speaker 1>the it's a seed of like a species of grass. Okay. So,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess people think of brown rice is just

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<v Speaker 1>like a healthier version of white rice. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know that to be true. It just seems that way

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<v Speaker 1>because it's got that none of your flavor to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But so when I think of different rice, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I think a brown rice too, But I eat less

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<v Speaker 1>brown and rice than I eat white rice. But so

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, there's a long grain rice so we

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<v Speaker 1>just talked about, which is like that sort of classic

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<v Speaker 1>peel off. You make that fluffy rice, you serve it

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<v Speaker 1>with every dish you can imagine. And you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the great things about rice in general is it

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<v Speaker 1>could be flavored by so many basically anything. And we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to that in a little a little bit, um,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later. But you know, like as I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, like rice is probably you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most important food crops period in the world globally

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<v Speaker 1>from a nutritional standpoint. Um, you know, from caloric intake.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it a little bit goes a long way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's something at you know, a lot of it

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of sort of peasant origins because it

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<v Speaker 1>can feed a lot of people for very little money. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you can be incredibly creative with it and

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<v Speaker 1>of course make a taste however you want to make

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<v Speaker 1>a taste. So you know, then there's like things like

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<v Speaker 1>arborrio rice, which is you know, a shorter green rice

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<v Speaker 1>that basically as a creamy texture. It's it's cooked differently

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<v Speaker 1>traditionally than than a rice peel off. Um, you're basically

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<v Speaker 1>adding hot liquid. Again, it could be water or some

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<v Speaker 1>broth or some stock, etcetera. You know, in any iteration.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be vegetable broth, or it could be shrimp stock,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be chicken stock, you know. And you basically

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<v Speaker 1>you're adding as you're stirring the arborrio rice, you're adding

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<v Speaker 1>the the broth until it absorbs it. And basically what

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<v Speaker 1>happens is it just it absorbs its volume by like

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<v Speaker 1>three times, so it gets really plump um. It basically

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of drinks all that all that broath as

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<v Speaker 1>you're adding it until it softens doesn't and it takes

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<v Speaker 1>a while. You know, it takes somewhere between you and

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<v Speaker 1>forty minutes, depending on all your variables. Yeah. So one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I get made fun of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Beat Bobby Flay is how often I make

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<v Speaker 1>crispy rice really yeah, because it's like one of my

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<v Speaker 1>go to winning moves because it's so good. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I make it. I Mean, one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that people miss sometimes when they're doing Beat Bobby Flay

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<v Speaker 1>is that you have to think about how the judges

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna taste it. You know, they're gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>bitter two, and they're gonna have the first impression immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>So having contrast to texture in a dish is just

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<v Speaker 1>as important as what it tastes like it looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And a lot of people come there and

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<v Speaker 1>they have all these bells and whistles on the dish,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't mean anything. It's like the judges would

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<v Speaker 1>rather have like something crispy or crunchy than some white shruffles,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. That's that's that's it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about making decisions. So I mean, one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that people don't realize is like we have a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty people on that are on that show, between staff,

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<v Speaker 1>audience and contestants and all that, and everybody's rooting against me. Yeah, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>all the people that work for my production company and everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and so like you can hear like when I break

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<v Speaker 1>out the cast iron pants and make crispy rice, like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a collective like h in the control room because

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<v Speaker 1>they know that I'm gonna that's gonna doesn't guarantee a win,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's your secret weapons, one of my secret weapons,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna be anyway. It's also one of my

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<v Speaker 1>secret weapons at home because it's so good and so

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<v Speaker 1>like when I make things like curries and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make rice with it. Sometimes I just

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<v Speaker 1>like do like a fluffy rice, but something like having

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<v Speaker 1>that those little crispy bits along with the fluffiness of

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<v Speaker 1>the rice is really so good. Yeah, So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make crispy cocdut and sky and rice. But it all

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<v Speaker 1>has also has cilantro in it, some lime zest, very fragrant,

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<v Speaker 1>crispy crunchy, and you start with rice that's already cooked.

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<v Speaker 1>So this rice I made with coconut milk. Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>just make it with coke like on sweet and coconut milk.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I use coconut milk and water. Like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times i'm beat, That's what I'll do so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not too overly fatty, you know. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then what I do is I quickly, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a forty five minute time when I'm beat. I

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<v Speaker 1>cooked the rice and I spread it on a sheet pan,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I put it in the in the freezer

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<v Speaker 1>to stop it from cooking. And then I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>towards the end of you know, before before I'm gonna plate,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe ten minutes before the time is up. I

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<v Speaker 1>get a cast iron pan and on the stove, get

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<v Speaker 1>it high heat, put some canoa oil in there, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I start crisping the rice. Okay, making rice is hard, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is, because it's a balance. It is a balance,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, my rice doesn't always come out perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean again, like when I'm cooking like classic long

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<v Speaker 1>grain rice, you know, I basically to me, what would happen?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is one of those things where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like there's little things that make a difference in your

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<v Speaker 1>final products. So like my basic rice recipe would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say it's a cup of rice. So I take

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<v Speaker 1>a cup of uncooked rice, long grain rice, and I

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<v Speaker 1>usually I usually put some aromatics. So I put aromatics

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<v Speaker 1>in everything. So like onions, garlic, let's just say onions.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say onions and garlic. So I tell it,

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<v Speaker 1>put the rice over it, let it get a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit um uh wet from the from the oil that

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<v Speaker 1>you're cooking in, the aromatics in and then so for

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<v Speaker 1>each cup of rice, I put in about one between

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<v Speaker 1>one and three quarters and one and seven eights of liquid.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, it could be chicken stock, it could be

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<v Speaker 1>shrimp stock depending on what I'm cooking, or could be water.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just less than two to one. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you putting it in a pot like a sauce pot.

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<v Speaker 1>So so basically a lot of recipes will see you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see two to one. I like a little bit less

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<v Speaker 1>liquid because I don't want my rice to be overcooked.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you bring it to a boil and then you

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<v Speaker 1>cover it and you turn it down to a very

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<v Speaker 1>low simmer, and somewhere around fifteen minutes, take it off

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<v Speaker 1>the heat, leave it covered for about five minutes, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you take a fork and you fluff it. And

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<v Speaker 1>what I do is I usually take it out of

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<v Speaker 1>the pan and lay it on a sheep pan so

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<v Speaker 1>it's one even layer so that the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 1>rice isn't cooking more than the top of the rice.

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I'm saying, because it's still hot. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's sort of a very basic rice recipe. Then what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do with the sheep pand do you put

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<v Speaker 1>it in the refrigerator? You just leave it out depends

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm going to eat it sort of momentarily at

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<v Speaker 1>least leave it out. If it's if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>make crispy rice or I'm going to eat it later,

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<v Speaker 1>I cover it and put it in the refrigerator. I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to make rice in the oven once. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean I put it in the oven? You can

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<v Speaker 1>do that didn't come out right? Why do you do

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<v Speaker 1>that to throw it out? I don't know. I've read

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<v Speaker 1>it online a lot of people well now and like

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<v Speaker 1>rice makers are so popular, so many people have those

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<v Speaker 1>in their homes. But I in a in a pinch,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a Trader Joe's and I buy the frozen

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<v Speaker 1>rice and I put it in my microwave for three

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<v Speaker 1>minutes and it's it's perfect. Oh god, I told you

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<v Speaker 1>you are not gonna like how I made rice. I

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<v Speaker 1>just listen. One of the things that I love is

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<v Speaker 1>that you're cooking more on your own because you're interested

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<v Speaker 1>in doing it. This is not this is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a newish thing, correct, Because when you were a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>you had no interest. You just like just feed me.

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<v Speaker 1>So now that you're an adult on your own, living

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<v Speaker 1>your own life, you're actually trying a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>at home. But like you can easily just text me

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<v Speaker 1>and ask me a question and it literally will like

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<v Speaker 1>it might not be a perfect answer for you, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna take of the aggravation out of your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So why don't you do that? I know I should,

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<v Speaker 1>but also it's like, I don't know. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that I would tell you to go to Trader Joe's

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<v Speaker 1>and buy frozen rice. That's probably not what I would

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. It's pretty good, you'd be surprised. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what else I like in terms like when talking about

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<v Speaker 1>rice dishes, I love mango and sticky rice delicious the

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<v Speaker 1>best I hadn't I never had it until I went

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<v Speaker 1>actually went to Thailand and it was I ate it

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<v Speaker 1>every day. Yeah, so good. One of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't talked about yet is, uh, I'm a rice

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<v Speaker 1>pudding fan. You are, Oh my god. It's probably it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably because I know a lot of people don't like

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<v Speaker 1>rice pudding. I do like rice pudding, but there's it's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a texture thing for me. Okay, I mean it's creamy, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just don't like the little you don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the rice running through the creaminess. Well, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, when I was in grammar school, your grandmother.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom, Dame Dorothy would take would pick me up

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<v Speaker 1>from school and we go to these Greek diners after

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<v Speaker 1>after school, and you know, she would basically feed me lunch,

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<v Speaker 1>and they the Greek Diners had the best rice pudding.

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<v Speaker 1>And she used to like, she used to try to

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<v Speaker 1>get like like my mom was like this. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom was like a hot mom. You know, she

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<v Speaker 1>was like very pretty and you know, very fun, and

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<v Speaker 1>all the guys and the diners were always in love

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<v Speaker 1>with my mom. So she would try to coax the

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<v Speaker 1>rice pudding recipe at him, and she tried to make

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<v Speaker 1>it a few times at home and it was got

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<v Speaker 1>awful and I'd be like, Mom, what happened. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're giving me the right recipe. They're

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<v Speaker 1>keeping it from me. So I'm so like I've had

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've kind of like secretly every once in a

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<v Speaker 1>while gone into quest to make really good rice pudding

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<v Speaker 1>like the Greek diners made in New York City, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's so good and it has sentamon on it, which

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the things that I love. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like raisins in my rice pudding, but I

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<v Speaker 1>like I like I like, I'm a rice pudding fan

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, Um, but it has to be good and

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<v Speaker 1>then um, you know, and then like when you think

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<v Speaker 1>about like the most famous rice tissues in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Pia comes into comes into mind. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>Pier is one of you know, it's it originated in Valencia,

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<v Speaker 1>in Spain. And do you know what the classic Valencian

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<v Speaker 1>is probably the original one. It's um, it's actually rabbit

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<v Speaker 1>and snails and sometimes chicken. Yes, that the classic Valenciana.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I would say the most popular one,

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<v Speaker 1>and now is you know you would see is like

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the rice first of all is cooked with saffron,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes it's like trees are running through the rice.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's like different kinds of shellfish, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be lobster or shrimp, you know, clams, muscles,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever you have available, and then chicken in

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<v Speaker 1>there as well. And then a lot of times what

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<v Speaker 1>they do is they make a lemon alioli or ioli

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<v Speaker 1>alioli is the Spanish version, same thing. Basically, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a garlicy saffron mayonnaise lemon and then they when they

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<v Speaker 1>mix the pie up, they kind of lacquerate with this

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<v Speaker 1>alioli at the end and it just counts. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so good. It gives it a nice richness obviously gives

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<v Speaker 1>it that burst of lemon flavor as well. But the

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<v Speaker 1>key to it is what we're saying before is the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the of the piea pan is the sakarrot

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<v Speaker 1>or the crust, and that's what gives it an amazing texture.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course you can make you know, pie a

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<v Speaker 1>is in all kinds of you know, different flavors. Especially

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<v Speaker 1>there's a few different a few different rice that you

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<v Speaker 1>can use for for pia. Colaspara is one, bomba is one.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very similar to aar boreo rice. They're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>short and plump, and again they really absorb a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of liquid, so they you know, they basically if you

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<v Speaker 1>start with if you start with a cup of colas

0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.320
<v Speaker 1>bar or bomba rice, you're getting like three or four cups.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it really expands and it basically just drinks

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<v Speaker 1>up that liquid and that's what what what makes it

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<v Speaker 1>so flavorful. I can taste the coconut in this rice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't forget the coconut. You know, has like some inherit,

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<v Speaker 1>sweetness in it, sugar in it. So yeah, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can't want to burn it. So what I do is,

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<v Speaker 1>so now the rice is in the canola oil. You

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<v Speaker 1>can hear its crisping, and I take the back of

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<v Speaker 1>a metal spachela, not the rubber one, of the metal one,

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<v Speaker 1>and I push it down so it's even and so

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<v Speaker 1>that there's so that all the surface of the pan

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<v Speaker 1>and the oil is hitting as much of the rice

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<v Speaker 1>evenly as possible, and that's going to create crustiness. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is one of the things like you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see like crusty or crispy rice dishes, and lots of

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<v Speaker 1>different cultures like in Paea it's soak rot, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the crust. A lot of Persian rice

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<v Speaker 1>dish dishes have that crustiness as well. It's really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't create this, but I just love it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna slice of some scallions, so coconut scallions. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you do do things like you can put like ginger

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<v Speaker 1>in hills. Well it would be nice, but usually I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I'm serving this as a foil for something that's

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<v Speaker 1>very high in flavor. So some kind of curry of

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of like a red curry or a green curry,

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<v Speaker 1>or even like an Indian yellow curry or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I take the zest of the limes and

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<v Speaker 1>I put it in there as well. Okay, so you

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<v Speaker 1>so you just kind of so you're basically frying the

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<v Speaker 1>rice basically, you know, And and now I can really

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<v Speaker 1>start to smell the coconut too, you know, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's cooking, and as I said, you know, there's some

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<v Speaker 1>inherent sugar in there, so from the coconut milk, and

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<v Speaker 1>like it's uh, you know, it's going to help caramelize

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<v Speaker 1>through the race of tiny bit. So would you just

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<v Speaker 1>serve this in in the cast iron? You couldn't serve

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<v Speaker 1>it in the cash iron, um, but usually I get

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<v Speaker 1>it out of the cash iron, so it's stops it

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<v Speaker 1>from cooking. I put it. I just put it in

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<v Speaker 1>a decorative bowl. You got a lot of those, yeah, um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course you're like, you know, we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about like the fluffier rices, the more classic fluffy

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<v Speaker 1>rices that we see create to serve with like stews

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, curries and kind of brothy dishes could

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<v Speaker 1>be vegetables could be meats, could be fished, doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I did a story about this small business

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<v Speaker 1>that that started during the pandemic called Golden Rice. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you seem to posted about that? Tell me about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Persian dish um to sheen to sheen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure I'm pronouncing that right. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's this mother daughter that started this this pop

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<v Speaker 1>up and it almost looks like a cake, like the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they present the cake. Yeah, with the way

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<v Speaker 1>they present the right because they're basically doing what we

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<v Speaker 1>did was, which is they crisp it up in a pan,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't break it up right. They keep it

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<v Speaker 1>as a like a like a exactly, so it has

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<v Speaker 1>the shape of the pan, but it's crispy on all sides.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so good. It's so good, Oh my god. And

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<v Speaker 1>you can you like you have to. People are obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Now you have to. You have to order

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of time. Really, do you know what dirty rice is?

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<v Speaker 1>M I don't know. It's chicken livers. Okay, you see

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<v Speaker 1>that in Louisiana a lot. I love it. It's it

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<v Speaker 1>makes like like like a dirty martini is made with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, vodka, or gin with with the olive juice,

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<v Speaker 1>so it gives it that sort of like that dirty

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<v Speaker 1>kind of look and feel and flavor. So chicken livers,

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<v Speaker 1>which I have to say, I'm a huge fan of

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<v Speaker 1>chicken livers. Chicken livers and rice is so good at

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<v Speaker 1>dirty rice so good. That's not really my thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>like serving that with duck. I used to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>used to serve that at Bar American duck. Also spicy tuna.

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<v Speaker 1>Crispy rice is like, oh yes, I don't know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most popular dishes ever. Yeah, that's good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's like. I also like, I am such a

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<v Speaker 1>sucker for fried rice from like a Chinese restaurant with

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<v Speaker 1>a little shrimp. Do you get tenn ingredient fried rice?

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<v Speaker 1>That's my go to? What does that mean? Just every ingredient.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like shrimp, broccoli, you know, ten ingredients. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>ten ingredients. Like, I'm such a sucker for like marketing

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<v Speaker 1>on menus, like if it says crispy I'm ordering, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>if it says ten ingredient fried rice, Like do you

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<v Speaker 1>want ten ingredient fried rice? Or do you want just

0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.800
<v Speaker 1>pork fried rice? I mean like I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting a bargain. Yeah, I'm being nine free ingredients. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's also at night Market they do like a

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<v Speaker 1>crab fried rice and that is so good. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>at night Market, that's right, that's near Yeah, yeah, down

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<v Speaker 1>the street. I like that. Yeah, I haven't been there

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<v Speaker 1>in a while. Oh my god, let's go. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>for that. Food is really spicy. I like that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So then you know, while the rice is cookie, I

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<v Speaker 1>sprinkle some of the scullions on top, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>wine zest. Very powerful. The smell is very powerful. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very freevorite, salt and pepper. Yeah it smells good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it smells great. So you kind of like take a

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<v Speaker 1>peek at what's happening with the rice. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's quite ready yet. Now, you know, cash iron is great,

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<v Speaker 1>and a non stick pan works as well, but cash iron,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously holds the heat really nicely. You can

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<v Speaker 1>see that, you can start to see the edges of

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<v Speaker 1>getting that's sort of golden crispiness. This stuff is like

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<v Speaker 1>so good. I love this, Like with a shrimm curry

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<v Speaker 1>or a fish curry or a chicken curry, even like

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<v Speaker 1>a duck curry is good. Curry curry. It's good. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be like dark. It just has to

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<v Speaker 1>be crispy, because that's the two. Yeah. And also you

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<v Speaker 1>don't yeah, see that's perfect. It's like you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>all of it to be crispy. You want a combination

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<v Speaker 1>of fluffy and crispy. And it goes infest and then

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<v Speaker 1>why are you doing that when we're gonna kind of

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<v Speaker 1>flip it over and then do the outside just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, and then the scions in the line I'm

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<v Speaker 1>get distributed into the coconut rice. You also use coconut

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<v Speaker 1>place on the tun if you want. Yeah, you love coconut,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you do? You like coconut? Yeah you do? Not

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<v Speaker 1>like it? Yeah? I know I like it? Now what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You went to coconut school. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good. Now I want to make curry, right. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things about having like cans of tie

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<v Speaker 1>red curry and green curry and I covered all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and some coconut milk. You can make anything taste so good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you have some proteins or even some vegetables

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<v Speaker 1>and you combine the coconut milk, and you toast the

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<v Speaker 1>curry paste and a pan a little bit at the

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<v Speaker 1>coconut milk, some lime, some freshure herbs. It's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just such a delicious nous. And then if you

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<v Speaker 1>serve it with this crispy coconut sky and rice, m hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I often find, like a lot of people, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, they I think that there's a tendency

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<v Speaker 1>to make risotto too thick and it should really be brothy.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you make risotto often? Um? Often would be a stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably make it more than most people make it

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<v Speaker 1>because I love cooking Italian food, but I cook pasta

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<v Speaker 1>more than I cook risotto. Whenever I cook risotto, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really happy I did it. Yeah, sometimes I forget to

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<v Speaker 1>make it. I know, it's so good. I think of

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<v Speaker 1>risotto is like a really good platform for shellfish, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's really good for shrimp, with scallops, with lobster, with clams,

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<v Speaker 1>with oysters, so good, so good, I mean. And then

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<v Speaker 1>but the key to those things is using the broths

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<v Speaker 1>that you're cooking with. So if you just if you

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<v Speaker 1>just cook risotto, and let's just say, it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>using water, it's gonna be end even if you put

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<v Speaker 1>shrimp at the end, Like the shrimp will taste like shrimp,

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<v Speaker 1>but the rice won't take like taste like shrimp. So

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<v Speaker 1>you want to use the shrimp stock exactly. And I

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<v Speaker 1>always tell people when you go to your fishmonger, I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's a pain, but it's worth it. By the

0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:17.920
<v Speaker 1>shrimp with the shells on it. Take the shells off

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>the vane the shrimp. Then you have a clean shrimp.

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't take that long. Then you make and like literally

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm cleaning them, I'm making shrimp stocks. I take

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<v Speaker 1>the shells, I take some water, I take maybe an onion,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little white wine, a touch of like tomato paste,

0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:36.919
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, thirty forty minutes later, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you simmer it. You have beautiful shrimp stock, and it

0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>brings so much flavor. And they gave you the shrimp

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<v Speaker 1>shells for free. Use them. So in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>like like Risotto's people, well, I was just gonna say,

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>people are intimidated by Risotto. So obviously it makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>if you're saying that to me, because the bottom line

0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 1>is with Risotto, for the most part, you can't leave

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<v Speaker 1>the stove. I mean you can for a second, but

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<v Speaker 1>like the bottom line is that once you start cooking

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.399
<v Speaker 1>the risotto, you need to stay there and stir and

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 1>add broth and stir and stir and stir until it's cooked.

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.959
<v Speaker 1>And you know, basically what you do is you can

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<v Speaker 1>start with some aromatics. You toast the rice in the pan.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a little olive oil without creating color, just kind

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:26.479
<v Speaker 1>of get get the rice going. And then you you

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>start adding stock in the broth. It absorbs it, it

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.400
<v Speaker 1>gets thick, You add more, it absorbs it. It gets thick,

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 1>you add more, so you and you're constantly stirring, so

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you really have to watch it, and you're you're beating

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 1>up the start so that the starts comes out and

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:43.680
<v Speaker 1>it basically starts. It starts creating this creaminess without adding

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<v Speaker 1>cream obviously to it. But like you know, I love

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<v Speaker 1>making like mushroom risottos or one of my favorite dishes

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<v Speaker 1>of all times, tomato saffron risotto delicious. I love making

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<v Speaker 1>green risotto too, So you just have It's basically basically

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<v Speaker 1>what you can do is it's almost like pesto wish,

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<v Speaker 1>So like you have a pesto that you can add

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<v Speaker 1>at the very end. Um so it has parmesan cheese

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<v Speaker 1>and it could have some nuts in. It could have

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<v Speaker 1>olive oil, garl like lots of fresh herbs, or you

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<v Speaker 1>can just do like lots of fresh herbs at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. I love making green pea risotto. Why, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Christina loves green peace so anything. I made

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<v Speaker 1>a green peace soup that she said it was the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing you share, right, it wasn't. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as she thinks so with it. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't ask questions exactly. I mean, think about it this way, Sophie.

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<v Speaker 1>So like if you're cooking like a like a leg

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<v Speaker 1>of lamb or something, or some kind of roast, like

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<v Speaker 1>when you serve red meat and you drink red wine,

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<v Speaker 1>think about like having a red wine risotto go with

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<v Speaker 1>those those roasts. That's course exactly, it's part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So like also buco, which is the classic millonaise Italian dish,

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<v Speaker 1>which is veal shank that's braised. It's usually served lastically

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<v Speaker 1>with risotto millonnaise, which is saffron risotto. So you have

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<v Speaker 1>the saffron risotto underneath the veal shank, and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>grim alatta on top, which is like herbs and garlic,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, alive oil, orange lemons, ask that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a good dish too, That's a nice, hearty dish.

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<v Speaker 1>So risotto can be an appetizer. It can be a

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<v Speaker 1>main course on its own, just like shellfish or lobster risotto,

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<v Speaker 1>which would be great. Or it can be part of

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger story, you know what I'm saying, where it's

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<v Speaker 1>where it plays a sort of supporting role. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should make me some risotto. How about white truffle

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<v Speaker 1>risotto that situation, or how about a coccio peppe risotto

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds sick? Yeah, I mean lots of peccumino, cheese,

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<v Speaker 1>black pepper, delicious down all right, you got it. Always

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