1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Oh, we'll have a hot one today, We're lives. It 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: is Chicago. It's The Herd. Brad Underwood, Illinois head coach 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: getting ready to face Yukon. Stopping by wherever you may 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: us part of your day. Well, today is one of 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: those stories where half of you will agree with me 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: and half of you won't, and the half of you 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: who won't are not gonna listen because Christians in America 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: feel marginalized and some times for very good reason. Most 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: of my friends are Christian. I've said before, I'm kind 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: of agnostic. I got no idea what's going on upstairs. 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: But there was a story yesterday that developed, and it 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: just so happens. I got lucky with this story because 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: I had context and contexts around it. I know somebody 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: that went to Purdue and played with Jaden Ivy, and 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: I know somebody in the NBA that's been on his 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: staff with Jaden Ivy. He doesn't necessarily mesh well with others. 25 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: So yesterday the Bulls let him go. He went to 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: Instagram multiple times he called out the NBA for promoting 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: pride months, saying it celebrates unrighteousness. And again, his reputation 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: at Purdue, I've got it sourced. And in the NBA, 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: he only had seven games left with the Bulls this 30 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: year and they were not going to bring him back, 31 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: so they said, you know, hit the road, good luck 32 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: and free agency. Here's the first thought I thought about 33 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: was never screw with a locker room. Ever screw with 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: a workplace. And I'll give you an example. I own 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: a company. We got about sixty employees. It's called the Volume. 36 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: If I found out somebody did something illegal and it 37 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: was bad a dui. Maybe it was a misdemeanor, but 38 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: they were good people. They made a big mistake, they 39 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: were contrite, they were apologetic, they worked well with others, 40 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: and they were really really a good person in the 41 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: building despite committing a misdemeanor. I'd keep them, but it's 42 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: a private company. And if they were annoying odd sometimes 43 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: talk too much politics and religion, and multiple employees came 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: to me and said they're not good for the workspace, 45 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: they're disruptive. I'd fire them in thirty seconds. I would 46 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: keep the criminal and I would let go of the 47 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: annoying coworker. And that's a private company, and I could 48 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: the Bulls, for the record, are a public facing company, athletes, 49 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: you'd get to this point, they'd figure out keep religion 50 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: and politics out of it. Mostly, there's thousands of Americans 51 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: who have been arrested, who have made serious mistakes, who 52 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: are tremendous employees and their workers their boss love them. 53 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: But you know what, there's not a million of in 54 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: America annoying, weird people who talk politics and religion at 55 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: work and don't mesh well with others, don't screw with 56 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: the workplace. Too many of you are getting into this 57 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: dopey freedom of speech Jade, and Ivy's not a lawyer 58 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: being disbarred. He's not going to prison. He got seven 59 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: games left. And the Pistons, who strangely made him a 60 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: top five pick and let him go. The Pistons aren't 61 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: dying for guard play and they let him go. H 62 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: why would that be? Bulls seven games? Laft said, hit 63 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: the road, which they have every right to do legally. 64 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: Here was their coach, Billy Donovan. 65 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: We have people from all different walks of life working 66 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: in the building and players from all different walks of life. Right, 67 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: So the first thing is, you know, everybody comes with 68 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: their own personal experiences. But one is we've got to 69 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: all be professional. I think there's got to be a 70 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: high level respect for one another and we got to 71 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: help each other, you know, and then be accountable to 72 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: those standards. 73 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: You are always entitled to your own opinion, but you're 74 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: never entitled, especially if you're not productive or you're disappointing, 75 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: to disrupt the workspace. And that's the thing about life. 76 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: I tell my kids jokingly, half jokingly all the time. 77 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: Be really great at something. You'll be able to get 78 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: away with more the legendary stories that Bill Belichick tells 79 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: about Lawrence Taylor when he was a defensive coordinator for 80 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: the New York Giants and one time he showed up 81 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes late to a meeting and Belichick goes to 82 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: Bill Parcells and says, Bill, I just thought. I tell you, 83 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Lawrence showed up fifteen minutes late to our meeting, and 84 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: Bill Parcells said, why the hell did you start the meeting. 85 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: He's the best football player in the league. Jimmy Johnson, 86 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: guy falls asleep at a meeting, kicked him off the team. 87 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, did Troy get up? Troy? The meeting's still going. 88 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: Life's full of gray, And I understand that Christians feel marginalized. 89 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: I get it. 90 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 1: And you often have a point, and you can often 91 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: take these disruptions to court. Gina Carno an actress, Right, 92 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: stuff like that happens. But the more skilled and talented, 93 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: I know it stinks, right, you get away with more. 94 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: We all know that Dennis Rodman and Draymond Green created 95 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: some headaches for Steve Kurr and Phil Jackson, but they 96 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: got four and a half more rebounds than headaches per game, 97 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: and so they stuck around. And that's one of the 98 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: things that you say to life is not fair. So 99 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: many Christians this morning or last night read that story 100 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: and feel attacked. And I understand it. Some of what 101 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: he said, I'm sure has been set in churches last weekend, 102 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: But they're not a locker room, and they're not necessarily 103 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: a workspace, they're a house of worship. Timing place matters. 104 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean, in Hollywood, if you're a B lister and 105 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: you're just you're talking politics and sports on set, you're 106 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: only in two scenes, they'll reshoot them. If you're an 107 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: A lister, they're not redoing the movie poster. They'll just 108 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: try to get through this puppy as fast as we can. 109 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: And of course there's lines that you can cross and 110 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: you can't cross. But I literally had this sourced and 111 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: a Purdue former Purdue player said he was viewed as 112 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: a guy that didn't always mesh well with others, and 113 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: the injuries have compounded his frustration. He went to Detroit 114 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: desperate for a guy of his talent, and they let 115 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: him go quickly. And now Chicago, with seven games left, said, 116 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: you know what, we wish him the very best in 117 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: free agency. And I'll give you an example of this 118 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: that place and time matter. Is that a Josh Giddy. 119 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: There was an alligation when he was a very talented 120 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: young player for Oklahoma City. It was an ascending roster, 121 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: very good roster. Now you've seen it a couple of 122 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: years later, It's like, wow, there was an allegation, no arrest, 123 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: nothing proven with josh in an underage person, a girl, 124 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: and in conservative ascending OKC Sam Presty said, we're gonna 125 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: let you go big city Chicago bulls like, come on down, bro, 126 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: we we'll give you a chance. You made a mistake, 127 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: you've showed contrition. We need it. And he's been a 128 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: great player. Different organization different, maybe political environment different. You know, 129 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: small town, big city, conservative, liberal. All that stuff plays 130 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: into it. All of it plays into it. You know 131 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: which way you lean in Hollywood may not be in Dallas. 132 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: And in this instance, Jade and Ivy is for a 133 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: public team in a locker room is viewed as bro. 134 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: If you average twenty nine points a game, And I 135 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: thought about this this morning. What if the average twenty 136 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: nine a game and he didn't just have seven games 137 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: left and several injuries. My guess is he and Billy 138 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: Donovan would have discussed it and he would be given 139 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: a second chance or a fifth. That's life. Let's make 140 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: this instructive, is that it is unfair, but rules aren't 141 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: even and the Internet wants to make everything black and white. 142 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: Life is gray. What you can say and I can say, 143 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: and others can say, and where it's at and what 144 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: time and what I understand Christians feel attacked. I get it. 145 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean I watch the media and I am often 146 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: uncomfortable with how Christians are marginalized for things that are 147 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm not a religious person, are probably close to doctrine 148 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: in a church. But in this instance, Bro injuries, you're 149 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: not really the kind of personality that meshed it Purdue 150 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: all the time or Detroit all the time in Chicago. 151 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: Can't go there. I agree with what the bulls do. 152 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: You just can't go there. Again, they're not disbarring him 153 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: from the law firm. There's seven games. They're like, Bro, 154 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: somebody you know, his talented kid. Somebody may pick him up. 155 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 4: Right. 156 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: People deserve second third chances. But I hope what you've 157 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: taken from this rant for me is I own a 158 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: small company. I would absolutely move off an employee who 159 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: I viewed as disruptive to the work environment ten times 160 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: faster than somebody who made a big mistake in life, 161 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: showed condrition, well liked, highly productive, good teammate, even if 162 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: the mistake was something that you should know better, Even 163 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: if the mistake is something that gets public scorn. People 164 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: make mistakes. This society, America, we allow them. One of 165 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: the great things about America. But odd. You know, back 166 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six, I was a sportscaster. It was 167 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: my first year as a sportscaster out of Eastern Washington University, 168 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: and I was it. It was the first time I'd 169 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: ever gone to a really nice restaurant. My boss at 170 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: the time, the late Larry Kentuck, took me to his 171 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: golf club, the Desert In. If you ever watched the 172 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: movie Casino, it plays the part of the Desert In. 173 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: And so I go with Larry. I don't even have 174 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean, my suit is like a wool suit in Vegas. 175 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: It's one hundred and ten. I mean, I just don't 176 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: look the part right to all these guys with big 177 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: row lexes and tans and open shirts, and I'm just 178 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: some rural kid. And we go to a lunch at 179 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: Desert End. You know, I don't even know what the order. 180 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: And as I'm walking out, some big rich guy comes 181 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: up and Larry introduces me. He says he wants to 182 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: be a sportscaster. And I never forget what this guy said. 183 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: This big, tall, kind of looked like a Texan, a 184 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: strapping guy at the di I that's what they call 185 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: the desert. He said, Well, Ken, just don't talk politics 186 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: or religion in your business. You could probably commit a crime. 187 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: He's right, life is full of gray. Live in Chicago, 188 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: It's the Hurd. 189 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 190 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: in noon Eastern non a em Pacific on Fox Sports 191 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 192 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 5: Hey it's me Rob Parker. 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I got to tell you with 202 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 1: the emergence of college basketball being so good now the 203 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: last several years doing large part to the NIL and 204 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: all these colleges being able to go buy and recruit 205 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: the best European young players and really good players staying 206 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: in college another year. They're just college. I don't think 207 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: I've watched as much college basketball in a long time, 208 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: and it's given us so many stories. And one of 209 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: them is, you know, Dan Hurley, he's very intense. I 210 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: would say this, and I would say it to his face. 211 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: I'll say it the next time I have him on. 212 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: He's so intense sometimes it's odd. I mean, his coats 213 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: coming off him, his glasses are on, they're half he's 214 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: barking spittle. You know, he's a lot. I mean, he 215 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: admits he's had anxiety on therapy. He's you know, he's 216 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: very honest about his issues, his struggles, and so he's 217 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: an easy if you want to pick on it, because 218 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: he's not like everybody else. He's not always perfectly buttoned up. 219 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean, look at the picture over my shoulder. That's 220 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: like his default face, you know, mouth open, outraged. But 221 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: Duke fans need to lighten up. One of the things 222 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: that drives me crazy since we legalize gambling sports gambling 223 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: in this country is when a team loses, they never 224 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: look in the mirror. It's rigged. It's the refs it's 225 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: the television network. Now. The Kansas City Chiefs were bad 226 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: last year. That's why they didn't do well. It wasn't 227 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: the networks. Okay, Duke blew the game. They blew it. 228 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: Not great coaching, too many turnovers. The two men involved 229 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: in what looks like aheadbutt Dan Hurley and Roger Ayers 230 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: know each other, get along, and both say it may 231 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: look weird, but it's a non story. I mean, there's 232 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: Hurley on the screen, his jacket's half off. He's looking 233 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: at him right there. That's Hurley. If I saw Dan 234 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: in his office, I mean, look at him. He's physical. 235 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: He chest bumps players as jackets half off. He's not 236 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: Bobby Knight. He's not barking trying to intimidate. Here during 237 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: the games he barks at refs, but he acknowledges he 238 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: likes the refs. He barks that. And so this is 239 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: this is just Hurley to a t jackets half off. 240 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: He's looking over his glasses. It looks like he's an 241 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: old man with bifocals, and Roger Ayre says, it's no 242 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: big deal. We know each other. It's all good. It was. 243 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: I took the train to work this morning. I get 244 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: face to face with about four people every morning on 245 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: the train. It was just a brief, tight space. The 246 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: ref and Dan walked by each other. The ref may 247 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: have said something. Dan didn't say anything. He just looked 248 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: at him and they moved on. And so it's like 249 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: a lot of this is just Duke fans apoplectic, outraged 250 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: that they lost, and they're like, hey, you gotta throw 251 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: that guy out. We have to understand there are certain 252 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: people in society that are wired differently. Dan Hurley is 253 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: one of them, and jackets off. He is just perpetual motion. 254 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: It was brief, it was a tight space. Both men 255 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: involved said, no big deal. I mean I went and 256 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: looked at some of the complainers. It was remarkable how 257 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: many are Duke fans. Duke, you blew it own it. 258 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: Here's Hurley last week on my show. 259 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 6: I'm more relaxed this time of year. I think you 260 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 6: work so hard to put yourself in position where you're 261 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 6: in contention. Now you find yourself with a team that's 262 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 6: in contention. You're more relaxed this time of year. When 263 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 6: you're coaching in December or January, you're really uptight. 264 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 4: Man. 265 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 6: It's like if things start going bad in December. Now 266 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 6: you're looking at that, staring at the barrel of man. 267 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 6: I got two or three more months a hell with 268 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 6: this group if we get out of two game losing 269 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 6: streak where you don't worry about picking the pieces up 270 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 6: this time of year. If you go down, you know 271 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 6: it's kill or be killed. 272 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: Also, context matters. His team just beat Duke with a 273 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: game winning shot in which they trailed by fifteen and a half. 274 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: I don't think he was mad at the official. I 275 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: think it was one of the happiest moments he's ever 276 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: had in most relaxed moments. They just beat Duke down, 277 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: big roaring back, miracle shot. It's not like there was 278 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: a bad officiating call that sent Duke to the line 279 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: and won the game. That's as happy as he has 280 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: been since the last time he was with his wife 281 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: and a Billy Joel concert. That is as happy as 282 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: Dan Hurley gets right there. And he's just a quirky, unique, intense, 283 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: brilliant guy. And you're seeing all of it all the time. 284 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: J Mack with a. 285 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 7: News no, no, turn on the news. 286 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: This is the Herdline news. 287 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 8: Let's go to the NBA where Sgay had a decent night. 288 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 8: Last night, Colin forty seven points, the free throw Merchant 289 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 8: went to the line twenty five times twenty one or 290 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 8: twenty five from the charity stripe, and the Thunder beat 291 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 8: the Pistons in overtime at the Cade cunning handless Pistons. 292 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 8: But afterward, what everybody's buzzing about is Sga was asked 293 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 8: if he. 294 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 9: Wants to, you know, talk about the MVP race. Here 295 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 9: we go. 296 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 10: I think it's good for the league. I think it's 297 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 10: good chatter. It gives people something to talk about. There's 298 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 10: a lot of good players in this league and a 299 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 10: lot of guys in the conversation. 300 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: Because of that, there's been chattering on behalf. 301 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 10: Of other players. 302 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: Would you like to chatter on behalf of yourself? No, 303 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm good. 304 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 10: Thanks for asking, though, but yeah, I'm good. I'll let 305 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 10: my game do the talking. 306 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: I know his nickname is SGA. It should be smooth. 307 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: Oh he is. 308 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 9: Just listen, He's dapper. 309 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: He's that guy is smooth. You know, there's just Walt Frasier, 310 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: the legend. He just had his eighty first birthday. Walt 311 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: Fraser is one of the all time great characters in 312 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: the NBA. You know, Fraser was just a great player 313 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: for the Knicks. He just kind of smooth SGA's game. 314 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's not highly vertical. He's not dunking over you, 315 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: he's not shooting from thirty eight feet. He's just both hands. 316 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: He kind of gets you off balance, a little leaner 317 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: to the right. And I like his personality. He's just 318 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: one of those never too high, never too low. I 319 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: think the OKC embodies, you know, Sam Presty's the same way. 320 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: Sam's never too high, too low. It's analytics, it's data. 321 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 1: This whole organization, the GM, the star player, it's just 322 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: their smooth, adult high eq IQ operators. I really like 323 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: his personality. He's cool. 324 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 8: I mean, they got a great leader face to the franchise. 325 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 8: I will say I was watching last night and ty game, 326 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 8: fourth quarter, he makes one of his patented shots, but Colin, 327 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 8: they called the offensive foul on him because he clearly 328 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 8: pushed off and everybody was like, oh my gosh, I 329 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 8: can't believe they actually called it, because the refs protect 330 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 8: this guy everywhere. Anyways, thunder with the good Win, this 331 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 8: was obviously a dig at Wemby. I'll let my game 332 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 8: do the talking because Wendy got to the podium and 333 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 8: was talking about it. I'm just telling you how it's 334 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 8: gonna work. 335 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 9: Right now. 336 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 8: The media loves SGA. They are going to vote for him. 337 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 8: They don't like Luca because he whinds and they think, well, O, 338 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 8: Wenby's gonna have his shot. He's got the next ten years. 339 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 8: The media votes for it, They're gonna vote for web. 340 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: I have no problem with SGA winning it. I would 341 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: vote for Wemby and SGA two. But I don't have 342 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: a problem because again here's a prime example. So this 343 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: is a j mack. This is a subjective vote. 344 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 11: Yep. 345 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: Just like we talked about in the opening segment, life 346 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: is a lot of gray. SGA is always available to 347 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: talk to the media. I mean, you know, you can 348 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: say what you want. Oh, the media just loves Lebron. 349 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: Lebron's always available to talk to the media. Lebron's always 350 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: been great with the media and that's part of why 351 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: people like him. And there's other players in the league 352 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: that have been, you know, discouraging to cover disrupt it. 353 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: People don't like it. It shouldn't be that way, but 354 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: part of it is to your point, the feeling is 355 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: Luca complains too much. Wemby'll get his and Sga is 356 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: such a likable, great player, He's an easy guy to 357 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: vote for. 358 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 8: I kind of wish they just kept it to basketball. 359 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 8: And now the goofiest is this will Well the thunder 360 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 8: have the best record. Where were those Where were these morons? 361 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 8: When Russell Westbrook averaged a triple double, was like the 362 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 8: sixth seed in the West, and they gave him the MVP. 363 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: It's just like, there's no consistence. That's a prime example. 364 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: That was a great story. Westbrook lost KD. There was 365 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: some sympathy for Russ. Russ put up unbelievable numbers, and 366 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: people are like, you know, Russ got abandoned by his star, Keren. 367 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 9: Duran left him. Let's give him the m v point. 368 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 9: To be fair, he's for everybody. 369 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: No, Russell had a great year. Now it was he 370 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: had a great year. 371 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 10: Yeah. 372 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: Now I will say the rebounding states we're goosed a 373 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: little obviously. Yeah, But in fairness, he did put up Historically, 374 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: he had a great season. 375 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 9: He had no doubt about all. 376 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 8: Right, Let's move on to the NFL where the Cowboys 377 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 8: franchise tag George Pickens. I mean, who knew nobody could 378 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 8: have guessed Colin that district come back to be a 379 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 8: potential issue. Well reports are now indicating Pickens could sit 380 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 8: out the voluntary OTAs Bryan Schottenheimer, of course, is not concerned. 381 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: GP loves it here. We love GP. 382 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 12: We have plans for GP to be here for a 383 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 12: long time. So we'll let the business side of the 384 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 12: thing see where it goes. I haven't pushed that on him. 385 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 12: I mean again, we're all going through the process. It's 386 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 12: almost April. We're still a couple weeks away. It's gonna 387 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 12: play out the way it plays out. Again, it's all voluntary. 388 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 1: I had just squeeze in a cowboy story. 389 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 9: Hey, listen, man, that was not me, and I even 390 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 9: got it. 391 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 8: I'm like, I loved your opening, rant, I loved the 392 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 8: jade and Ivy stuff. 393 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 9: I'm like, that's a great topic. 394 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 8: Schottenheimer, though, is annoying to me, and listen, I have 395 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 8: some bias here Colin. He was the jets OC when 396 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 8: we went to the AFT Championship game week and I 397 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 8: did not like his play calling at all. So I 398 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 8: come in bias to this. It's probably not fair for 399 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 8: me to chime in. I'll let you chime in on 400 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 8: Pickens versus shot Nimer. I mean he's not going to 401 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 8: show up. 402 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: Let's be real, Well, they didn't give him a long 403 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: term contract. I don't think he's a long term contract personality. 404 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: I think he's a super talented player. But I like 405 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: my receivers like JSN. I like my receivers like Abuka, 406 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: they go Amaran, Saint Brown, Larry Fitzgerald. It is a 407 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: position with a lot of personality and mood swings and 408 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: for whatever reasons, so I think a wide receiver there 409 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: are things that concern me in terms of long term. 410 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I wouldn't acquire somebody for a year 411 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: or two. I liked Amari Cooper's personality. I didn't love 412 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 1: des Bryant's personality. I like my wide receivers and I 413 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: understand they're the most talented players. They they have kind 414 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: of an NBA feel like they can take a game over. 415 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: But you know George's history, it would worry me with 416 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: a long term contract. 417 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 9: I'm just curious. 418 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 8: You know, my team is the Jets, so I know 419 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 8: they're going nowhere, but I'm just curious. 420 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 9: If you were a. 421 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 8: Cowboys fan, you watch the offseason now you see the 422 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 8: pick and stuff. 423 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 9: I mean, like, are you even optimistic about next. 424 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: If they landed Caleb Downs, And if they went into 425 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: the secondary in the first round and got Caleb Downs 426 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: and then got the third best corner with Rashawn Gary, 427 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: Quinn Williams, Kenny Clark over shown, damn right, I'd be excited. 428 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 9: So you think there's some optimism where I think. 429 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: I want them. I want now. I want them to 430 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: get cheaper and less expensive on the back end of 431 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: the defense. Because now they're spending money, the cap hits 432 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: go up for Quinn, Williams, Kenny Clark on the front end. 433 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: So my take with Dallas is if they go secondary. 434 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: I love Caleb Downs. I mean I think he's I 435 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: think he's the most undervalued guy in this draft. I 436 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: see him going eleventh. I'm like, you think there's ten 437 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: guys better in college football than Caleb Downs? You're crazy? 438 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 9: Okay, See you're optimistic. 439 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 8: Do you want to guess the win total on the 440 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys right now? 441 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: Six and a half? 442 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 8: Come on, six and a half. The Jets are five 443 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 8: and a half. Dallas Cowboys over is eight and a 444 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 8: half wins. How are you optimistic if your wind Tools. 445 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: They nail their draft. Let me revisit that. I would say, 446 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: like a win, go half a win. If you get 447 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: Caleb Downs, who I think I'll make an argument Caleb 448 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: Downs is the I've done this before. I did this 449 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: years ago when Patrick Willis played for Ole Miss and 450 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: the Niners got him at eleven. I said, the Niners 451 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: just got the only can't miss guy in the first 452 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: round at number eleven. Caleb Downs and Jeremiah Love those 453 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: are the two players I also love for anim knows it, 454 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: but it is the Raiders. If you told me there's 455 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: two guys that cannot miss, I would say it's loved 456 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: the running back out of Notre Dame and Downs for 457 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: Ohio State. Even if they went to a bad team, 458 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: a dysfunctional team, those guys are It's really funny about this. 459 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: There's very few guys that fall into Jonathan Ogden came 460 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: out at left tackle. You're like, he was a can't 461 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: miss guy. He literally you just couldn't. He was like 462 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: trying to block the sun. Get around the sun is 463 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: the diameter, the length? He was just ridiculous. But there's 464 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: not that. Nick Alman Warry went to the Seahawks in 465 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: the second round, and almost everybody went that is as 466 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: good a picking the second round as there's been in years. 467 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: Like everybody knew that was John Snyder, that he was 468 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: a first round talent, slid to the second. Dallas gets 469 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: Caleb Downs with their pick, and I've seen mock drafts 470 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: they ace the first round regardless of their next pick 471 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: in the first round. 472 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 8: All right, Finally, the Ravens and Max Crosby, that deal 473 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 8: that kind of blew up earlier this month. You know, 474 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 8: everybody knows the Ravens back out of the deal. It's 475 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 8: obvious regardless of what they want to see. But how 476 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 8: about this one. Team president Sashi Brown is acting like, hey, 477 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 8: you got to hear our side of the story. 478 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 7: Here we go. 479 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 3: I think it's a slow news cycle. 480 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to at all downplay the experience that 481 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: that Max had coming, that we all had Raiders, Ravens, 482 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: Max our locker room. As Eric said, we were incredibly excited. 483 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: And just as equally if not more, disappointed that we 484 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 3: weren't able to pull off that transaction and bring Max 485 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: to Baltimore. 486 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 9: Huh, slow news cycle. Well, this is the biggest story 487 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 9: of the off season. 488 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: Gullin I will see what was bigger? I will say, 489 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: what's he talking about? When the NFL season ends, there's 490 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: about a three to a four week stretch, and you 491 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: and I do this for a living. That is really slow. 492 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: In fact, you and I generally going big, and that 493 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: you Max Crosby story fell in that space. People ask 494 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: me all the time what's the worst time to be 495 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: a talk show host, and I say, well, March is amazing. 496 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: You you got March Madness, and then the Masters is 497 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: coming up in the draft, and you have the NBA playoffs, 498 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, I always tell people June take 499 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: care vacations in June, and that three or four weeks 500 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: after the season. So that is a time when you 501 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: and I are bayling Water. And that Max Crosby story 502 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: was getting daily play for hours on shows. I don't 503 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: think it was worth that. I really don't. I think 504 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: it was. It happens. It's odd you think you'd have 505 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: medical clearance before trades were made, which I've always thought 506 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: is weird in the NFL, like shift Jeff clearance, then 507 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: you have a trade, but it works the inverse. But 508 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be great with the I 509 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: think he's going to be a great Raider for the 510 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: rest of his career. I really I don't think he's 511 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: going to get traded. 512 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 11: Jay McK with the news, Well that's the news and 513 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 11: thanks for stubbing by the herd line. 514 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: Okay, this made me laugh. The Athletic Great Journalism subscribe. 515 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: It's great. They did a This is funny to me. 516 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: They pulled fans of every major league team. They called 517 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: it the Hope O Meter. Okay, the Dodgers in the 518 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: Blue Jays were one and two. They were in the 519 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: World Series. That's not surprising. The Reds were eleven, the 520 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: A's haven't played in their stadium twelve, Pirates thirteen, and 521 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: the New York Yankees Hopeometer. They were one spot ahead 522 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: of the Marlins at twenty two. Yankee fans have officially 523 00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: become the unhappy billionaire who's no longer the richest man 524 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: in the world. He's like number two and he's miserable. 525 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: The Yankees haven't had a losing season since nineteen ninety two. 526 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: I look it up, since two thousand and five. They 527 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: lead Baseball and wins. Yet their neck and neck with 528 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: the White Sox and the Marlins in the Hopometer. There's 529 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: a saying comparison is the thief of joy. And this 530 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: is a great example. Yes, if you compare them to 531 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: the Dodgers the last eight years, they're not number one. 532 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: Or if you compare them to their own dynasty in 533 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: the late nineteen nineties, well they're not that either. So 534 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: they're not as special as a current dynasty or their dynasty. 535 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: But today is twenty twenty six. And here's the good news. 536 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: If Garrett Cole when he comes back in May or June, 537 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: if he is eighty five to ninety percent of what 538 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: he was, the Yankees starting staff is one of only 539 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: two or three in the sport that could beat the 540 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: Dodgers if they met in the World Series. Never forget 541 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: the last time they met, the Dodgers beat them. What 542 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: were the two games in the series the Dodgers couldn't 543 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: hit Garrett Cole starts. So the Yankees starting staff, I mean, 544 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how many runs they've given up this year. 545 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: The answer is not many. So the Yankee staff, if 546 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: Garrett Cole comes back and is eighty five eighty percent 547 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: of what he was, they actually match up great with 548 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. Don't forget OTAWNI was one for eighteen against 549 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: the Phillies. Pitching great players have bad series and bad postseasons. 550 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: The Yankees have given up three runs in four games. 551 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: They're pitching is great now without Garrett Cole. So I 552 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: mean to me, if you said who could beat the 553 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: Dodgers in a series, I'd say Yankee pitching right now, 554 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: Yankee pitching could beat the Dodgers. They wouldn't be favored. 555 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: But I watched that World Series a couple of years 556 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: ago that went five games. The Aaron Judge Air one. 557 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: They couldn't hit Garrett Cole when Garrett's on, nobody hits 558 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: Garrett Cole. Nick Swisher on the recently on Our show 559 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: part of the Yankee broadcast on the critics of the Yankees, 560 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: and one. 561 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 7: Of the things that I really appreciate about spring training 562 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 7: this year was listen, there was this narrative about how, 563 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 7: you know, the Yankees are just running it back, like 564 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 7: they weren't very aggressive in the offseason, didn't get a 565 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 7: whole lot of names out there, like Bragman, the whole nine. 566 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, you're talking about 567 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 7: the team that won the Team Silver Slugger Award, right, 568 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 7: So that just goes to show you how talented this 569 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 7: team is. Now, all of a sudden, you not only 570 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 7: have an unbelievable offensive roster, you now have some depth 571 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 7: with your pitching staff. 572 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: Yankees are going to be just that is funny. Fans 573 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: hope o Meter the A's and the Pirates and the 574 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: Reds double digit spots ahead of the Yankees make it 575 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: make sense. 576 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 577 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: in noon Easter not a em Pacific. 578 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 8: The United Football League is back with a new season 579 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 8: of pro football in the spring. UFL Week two kicks 580 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 8: off with Fox UFL Friday. The reigning champion DC Defenders 581 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 8: face the Columbus Aviators Friday, eight eastern on Fox. 582 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: Brad Underwood coach the Fighting Alione ony Illinois. We could 583 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: have a big ten national championship. We could have Michigan 584 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: against Illinois. I actually think it's going to happen, although 585 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: it's impossible to bet against Yukon in March. It's just magical. 586 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: This is not a big story, but it's something I 587 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: liked it. All the NFL head coaches, the GMS are 588 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: in Phoenix this and it was interesting. Matt Lafleur was 589 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: asked about the players surveys. So they did player surveys forever. 590 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: But the owners don't like it because, especially like Arizona 591 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: or the Jets or a lot of these owners, they 592 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: get called out, they get f's. Matt Lafleur did not 593 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: get an F. He got a BUS B minus is 594 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: not a D. A B minus is basically my college transcript. 595 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: And that's fine. But what I like about it he 596 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: didn't deny it. He said, I got to figure out 597 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: why he addressed it, and he owned it. And I 598 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: think that's what smart people do, and what smart organizations do. 599 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: They stay ahead of problems, proactive, not reactive. So prime 600 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: example is the San Francisco forty nine ers got a 601 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: very solid graad to B to a B minus with 602 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: their training staff and their training facilities. They immediately addressed 603 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: it nine million dollars into upgrading their training facilities and 604 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: they hired a three or four more trainers to give 605 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: the players more individual access. So, I mean, player surveys 606 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: are not everything, but they're something I think by and 607 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: large now they're occasionally occasionally in any workforce, you're gonna 608 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: get grumpy guy, and you know I'm not getting treated fairly, guy, 609 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: but when you have a collective and you know Matt Lafleur, who, 610 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: by the way, since twenty nineteen is second to Andy 611 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: Reid in wins by active coaches, so he's tied with 612 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: Harball for second. He's ahead of Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay. 613 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: So he's a really good coach. But this is what 614 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: I've always lauded the Dodgers. For Dodgers were number one 615 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: in baseball, number one in attendance, they win the World 616 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: Series in twenty twenty four. What do they do improve 617 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: the stadium? Like stay ahead of stuff, be current. So 618 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: the Yankees last night, I got to tell you this 619 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: ABS system, the ball and strike replay system is really 620 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: good in baseball. And I know there's gonna be old 621 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: timers don't like it. I get it, Colin, you will 622 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: like the new stuff. No, I don't remember when the 623 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: NBA came out with a new ball or they made 624 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: guys where like jerseys that were like over the shoulders, 625 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: Like that's bad this thing. Yankees are ten for eleven 626 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: this year, and they were five for five last night 627 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: against the Mariners, And so what you know, people, the 628 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: first thing you think is, Ah, these lousy home umpires 629 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: first of all, colling balls and strikes is some of 630 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,959 Speaker 1: the best umpires ever had bad nights behind the plate. 631 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: Mike Easterbrook. Easterbrook had a bad night. The Yankees challenged 632 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: him five times and they were right all five times. 633 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's just about the umpires. There 634 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,479 Speaker 1: are all Mike Trout this year is three for three. 635 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: What it shown me is that most batters really really 636 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: know the strike zone down to the millimeter. Ronald o'kunya, 637 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: the Braves, he's he's zero and two. So what you're 638 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: finding is, I think the thing that impresses me the most, 639 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: because remember a manager, it's got to be a pitcher, 640 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: a catcher or a batter that taps the head. Can't 641 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: be the can't be the manager. The thing that blows 642 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 1: me away, just I can't believe it is how well 643 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: most batters know the strike zone. I mean they are. 644 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: It's like Ronald o' kunya, I could tell that that 645 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: was a strike. Yeah it was close. But I think 646 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: it's fascinating and it impresses me more with hitters. I mean, 647 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: it's so it's stuff. Have you ever got to a 648 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: batting cage? I used to do this. I go to 649 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: a batting cage and I turn it up to eighty 650 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: miles an hour, and I mean I could, I could? 651 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: I could? I mean that to me was no one 652 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: Ryan through one on one with movement. I don't know how. 653 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I was reasonably athletic. Can't even see eighty 654 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: is on your hands like that. These guys are all 655 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: throwing ninety eight splitters, so and these batters to the 656 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: millimeter can figure it out. It blows me away how 657 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: great Major League Baseball hitters are. So here's Aaron Boone. 658 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: Last night, I'm going five for five against the Mariners. 659 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 4: Really really good job by the guys. You know, when 660 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 4: you have that kind of success rate, it's not going 661 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 4: to be like that every night. 662 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: But I thought. 663 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 4: Everyone was was obviously warranted and a couple in some 664 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 4: key spots to give us a chance to build an inning. 665 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 4: We just weren't able to build much offensively. 666 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 2: Tonight probably can be a little bit. 667 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 4: You know, you also get a little frustrated over there, like, 668 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 4: let's you know, you don't want to those are razor 669 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 4: thin pitches. Sometimes you don't want to always have to 670 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 4: be challenging. 671 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: But Jay Mac, do you like it. I think it's 672 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it feels like a game show. 673 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 8: I mean it does feel a little gimmicky. You remember 674 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 8: the Torpedo bats last year, how they had a moment 675 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 8: for like, I don't know, two weeks. It was like 676 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 8: the big deal, and then they kind of went away. 677 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 8: I hope this is kind of just a fad because 678 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 8: I don't want this to be baseball every night, do you. Yeah, 679 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 8: it's basically like umpire versus batter. 680 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: Now, well, I mean you. 681 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 11: Get football replays every game you have, there's limited to replace. 682 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 11: You can't have replays every well, it's interesting you bring 683 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 11: this up. So I have thought, you know, because they 684 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 11: baseball fiddled around with this in the minor leagues, like 685 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 11: the pitch clock, and so I mean, they have done 686 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 11: their homework and due diligence on this. 687 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,479 Speaker 1: They're not making it up. They watched it for years, 688 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: they had discussions. It's funny. I remember when the pitch 689 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: clock came out and there were a lot of baseball 690 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: purists and legitimate baseball reporters that said, man, this is 691 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: going to be hard for some of these batters. They 692 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: have years of habits and virtually within three at bats, 693 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: everybody figured it out. The reality is, if there's a 694 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: law posted on the freeway, don't go over this speed 695 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: and the school zone, I don't care. If you're a 696 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: racy driver, you won't go over that in the school zone. 697 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: People can follow direction. People are capable. The batters and 698 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: the pitchers figured out the pitch clock by the second 699 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: start or the third at bat. I do think, I mean, 700 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: I know the umpire union probably doesn't love this. Probably yeah, 701 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: And like last night, it's embarrassing if you're a homeplate umpire. 702 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: I do think. I wonder if this happens, if what 703 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: happens if a home played umpire and these guys have 704 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,479 Speaker 1: egos melts down and has a seven pitch abs inning, 705 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: Like I can see an umpire melting down. I mean, 706 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: they better have a therapist than a couch somewhere in 707 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: that umpire room, because I could see it getting really ugly. 708 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: I mean it got ugly the other night, and that 709 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: was at the Reds Red Sox game. You're like this 710 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: embarrassing for the umpire. The umpire was clearly embarrassed. 711 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 8: And they're also going to have a quick hook with 712 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 8: anybody giving them lip. If you're constantly challenging them. By 713 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 8: the way, these umpires then get reps the next game 714 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,439 Speaker 8: they go to after getting called out five for five, 715 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 8: you know the batters are going to be. 716 00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 1: Looking at all. 717 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 9: I'm gonna show this. His eyes are. 718 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: Terrible, you know, I. 719 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 9: Think that, but maybe it's early and these are growing things. 720 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: I like that it holds everybody accountable. It also holds 721 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: batters accountable, or pictures accountable. You know, there are grumblers 722 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: in every workforce in America. There's there's gotta be every 723 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: staff's got a picture too, that always thinks I can Yeah, 724 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: I can't. My my, my sinker. I never get okay, 725 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: Champ test it. So it gets out a lot of 726 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: the grumblers. I mean, that's the great thing about technology. 727 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: It gives you the truth. Whether you can handle the truth, 728 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: it gives. 729 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 10: It to you. 730 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 8: Uh. 731 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: Brad Underwood, Illinois head coach joining us. 732 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 10: Man. 733 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: There's a lot going on.