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Speaker 1: Alec Pears. This is the Official Colts Podcast, giving you

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Speaker 1: We're about a week into the NFL free agency. Also,

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Speaker 1: And how about some Colts moments in the spirit of

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Speaker 1: where we were obviously not even close to that right there.

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Speaker 1: So if I'm comparing last year's offseason this year's offseason,

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Speaker 1: addition subtraction wise, Matt Taylor, start with you, what do

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Speaker 1: you like? What don't you like? Well, you've you've lost

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Speaker 1: five starters and then you added one, the one being Ebcom.

428
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Speaker 1: But it's kind of a you know, I don't know

429
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Speaker 1: what the right word is, net wash, because it's likely

430
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Speaker 1: that unique in goat waste time in India's over due

431
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Speaker 1: to that signing. Right the same the same position. Ebcom

432
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Speaker 1: comes in at defensive end. So I do think we

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Speaker 1: talked about this last week. I do think Ebcom's a

434
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Speaker 1: nice player. He's a consistent player. He plays the run well,

435
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Speaker 1: plays the pass well. He's a very impactful guy, not

436
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Speaker 1: just getting sacks. He affects the run, affects quarterbacks, affects

437
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Speaker 1: hurries with his pressures. So I like that move a

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Speaker 1: lot because the Colts bringing a veteran piece to help

439
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Speaker 1: the pass rush, while pay and dang Bo continue to

440
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Speaker 1: kind of come into their own. But you've lost three

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Speaker 1: starters on defense, two of your best players on the

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Speaker 1: team and Okaakan Gilmore. Then you lost a weapon on

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Speaker 1: offense and Paris Campbell, and so listen, it's early, right

444
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Speaker 1: the roster building the main part of the off season

445
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Speaker 1: that you build. The roster just started, free agency just started,

446
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Speaker 1: You've got the draft coming up at the end of

447
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Speaker 1: next month. It's all a fluctuating judgment. I guess by

448
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Speaker 1: the fan base and those that cover this team, they say,

449
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Speaker 1: if you had to play a game right now, you

450
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Speaker 1: know where are your talent wise. But I think the

451
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Speaker 1: cults are trying to balance where they're at as a

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Speaker 1: team and where some of these players were adding their careers.

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Speaker 1: But certainly they got a long way to go in

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Speaker 1: terms of adding top end talent to the Rocks. Lara,

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Speaker 1: I know they're not done yet, but boy oh Boyle Karake,

456
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Speaker 1: Paris Campbell to New York, those are some holes to fill.

457
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Speaker 1: And don't forget when you talk about Stefane Gilmour, it's

458
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Speaker 1: like that. I know it's just on paper. We talked

459
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Speaker 1: about boy oh boy, those guys made plays, and hats

460
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Speaker 1: off to Paris Campbell for the full seventeen game stretch.

461
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Speaker 1: He was a starter all year, first time in his career.

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Speaker 1: Big holes to fill. I think even talent conversation aside,

463
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Speaker 1: you lost an immense amount of leadership, experience and professionalism

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Speaker 1: with some of those departures. I thought that Matt Ryan

465
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Speaker 1: brought a lot of that. But you know, a degree

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Speaker 1: of accountability and he really that the standard going into

467
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Speaker 1: the season for what this offense wanted to be. Of course,

468
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Speaker 1: it didn't come out and play to fruition the way

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Speaker 1: that he expected nor anyone expected it to be. But

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Speaker 1: looking at Stefan Gilmour and his knowledge of being able

471
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Speaker 1: to come in and say this is how you operate

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Speaker 1: as a winning football team, this is what you need

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Speaker 1: to do to be a playoff contending type of team.

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Speaker 1: Now you look at how young this entire team is

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Speaker 1: going to become in the course of just one off season.

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Speaker 1: So that's an area in which you really have to

477
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Speaker 1: be sure those pieces you're bringing in are the right pieces,

478
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Speaker 1: because this is going to be a young group, a

479
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Speaker 1: developing an emerging group, and they're going to build the foundation.

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Speaker 1: It does appear when you do see veteran players moving

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Speaker 1: on to other situations. When you think about perhaps Yannique

482
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Speaker 1: and Ghakway is wanting to go to a situation in

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Speaker 1: which it's a team that is a playoff contending type

484
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Speaker 1: of team, maybe a team that's just one piece away,

485
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Speaker 1: because that's obviously a goal of his same thing. We

486
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Speaker 1: know to find Gilmore as a guy who would like

487
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Speaker 1: to win another championship, so going the move to Dallas

488
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Speaker 1: allows him to be in that type of position. I

489
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Speaker 1: think the moves that you're seeing indicate that this is

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Speaker 1: going to be a very pragmatic build in which Shane

491
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Speaker 1: Steiken is laying a foundation for what the identity of

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Speaker 1: this team is going to be and also making sure

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Speaker 1: players are in place who are going to be here

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Speaker 1: to build around. And these aren't just plug in guys

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Speaker 1: for single year or maybe two year deals. This is

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Speaker 1: what he foresees being the long term vision for the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts under his leadership. Coach. I really agree with that,

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Speaker 1: and I think the Colts right now are trying to

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Speaker 1: reidentify who their best players are, who are going to

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Speaker 1: be their most impactful guys for next season, and I

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Speaker 1: think The reason why Rick Venturi and I get along

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Speaker 1: so well is because we see the game kind of

503
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Speaker 1: the same way. And the one thing that I really

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Speaker 1: agree with with Rick and what he says and using

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Speaker 1: all of his years in the NFL that experience, is

506
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Speaker 1: that most NFL rosters are pretty similar except the top

507
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Speaker 1: end guys. Right, Guys fifteen to fifty three, you're fifteen

508
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Speaker 1: to fifty three are pretty close to what I have.

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Speaker 1: It's just on my better premium players at the premium positions, right.

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Speaker 1: That tastes right? So are my bed Do I have

511
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Speaker 1: more better players? And are my best players better than

512
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Speaker 1: your top guys? And that's what's a little bit concerning

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Speaker 1: right now with this offseason so far through one week

514
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Speaker 1: of free agency. Again, I'll double back to what I

515
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Speaker 1: said earlier. It's it's early. You still haven't had the draft, right,

516
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Speaker 1: everybody's still freaking out about quarterback. That's coming, Trust me,

517
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Speaker 1: it's coming. But yeah, there's no doubt the Cults have

518
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Speaker 1: lost some premium players and some top players from last

519
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Speaker 1: year squad and they have yet to address them. And

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Speaker 1: I use the word yet it's coming. Sure. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: let's stay there, Lara. I want to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about this free agency. I could even bring this question

523
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Speaker 1: into after training campus over with cuts and whatnot. I

524
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Speaker 1: want to to the offensive line. I want to stick

525
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Speaker 1: to the wide receiver room. Do the culture need help

526
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Speaker 1: in those two position groups through free agency? They're going

527
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Speaker 1: to get some help throughout the draft. But do you

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Speaker 1: see them making a move whether it's early or late

529
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Speaker 1: in the game for offensive line help and depth as

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Speaker 1: well as the wide receiver position. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: as likely we see any of those moves in free agency.

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Speaker 1: I think where you're more likely to see those editions

533
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Speaker 1: is the last week of April and you use some

534
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Speaker 1: of your draft capital on those areas with what you

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Speaker 1: currently hold in terms of picks. And then also that

536
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Speaker 1: critical undrafted free agent rookie market in which the Colts

537
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Speaker 1: have really done well in discovering some players from that pool.

538
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Speaker 1: So I think that it's most likely that that's where

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Speaker 1: they're targeting filling some of those areas, especially with the

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Speaker 1: depth that you need in both positions groups. I brought

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Speaker 1: up wide receiver and offensive line just right now. Any

542
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Speaker 1: concerns that you have as far as position groups going

543
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Speaker 1: after this? Uh, you know, after about a week in

544
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Speaker 1: free agency, not a huge concern, but I am curious

545
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Speaker 1: what the plan is for cornerback with the departure of

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Speaker 1: Steffan Gilmour and Fason Yeah and Fason. Yeah, Fason was

547
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Speaker 1: a bit of a role guy and of course had

548
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Speaker 1: great knowledge of Gus Bradley's system. So curious how they

549
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Speaker 1: might attack that also with some of you know, those

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Speaker 1: higher end draft picks, if that's an area where they're

551
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Speaker 1: really evaluating. And I think that, you know, to Matt's

552
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Speaker 1: point about Rick Venturi, I know Rick loves Ron Milis

553
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Speaker 1: so much, and I do think that coach Milis will

554
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Speaker 1: have a strong voice in terms of evaluating the secondary talent,

555
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Speaker 1: in particular the corner talent that's available in this year's draft.

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Speaker 1: I know he's been digging in on players. He and

557
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Speaker 1: I had conversation just a couple of days ago. So

558
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Speaker 1: very curious to see what talent is available in maybe

559
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Speaker 1: those second, third, fourth rounds for the cornerback position. I

560
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Speaker 1: think that would that'd be you know, draft capital well spent, right.

561
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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think cornerback depth is something

562
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Speaker 1: you're looking at right now because Gilmore was top notch

563
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Speaker 1: last year and you got Rogers Flowers, who's going into

564
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Speaker 1: year number two. Last year kind of weird year for Dallas.

565
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Speaker 1: Flowers start of the year on the practice squad, then

566
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Speaker 1: had to play special teams, brought up because of a need,

567
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Speaker 1: and then was insert into the defensive lineup because of injuries.

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Speaker 1: Play well, yeah he did. Tony Brown played only nine

569
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Speaker 1: snaps last year. Then you're throwing Kenny Moore. And the

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Speaker 1: reason why I say him is because he's looking to

571
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Speaker 1: rebound after a season that was disappointing for him. He

572
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Speaker 1: said publicly, you know, he was frustrated with himself at

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Speaker 1: the end of the season, said that he and the

574
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Speaker 1: coaches didn't necessarily gel was kind of upset that he

575
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Speaker 1: didn't have any picks last season. So he's looking to rebound.

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Speaker 1: I think he's still struggling to find his fit in

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Speaker 1: this system a little bit after that Eberflu system was

578
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Speaker 1: so well curated to Kenny's position and to his niche

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Speaker 1: within the defense. I think this is a little bit

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Speaker 1: different for him, and it is so easy to get

581
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Speaker 1: comfortable when you have the same defensive coordinator for that

582
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Speaker 1: you know, long stretch of time. So I think that

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Speaker 1: he will significantly benefit from just greater familiarity in a

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Speaker 1: little bit of continuity going from one system in consecutive

585
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Speaker 1: years and then the other for me would be wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think the loss or the departure of

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Speaker 1: Paris Campbell means the Colts need more top end talent.

588
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: Colts have Pittman, They've got Pierce Dulin's coming back because

589
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Speaker 1: if his versatility on offense and special teams. Mike Strown

590
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: is still in the development mode coming into your number three.

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00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: I think that area needs to be addressed with just

592
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Speaker 1: more playmakers. But again I think that's coming. You got

593
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Speaker 1: to be patient and keep in mind. Larrah. I love

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Speaker 1: what you said because because you're looking at things in

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Speaker 1: the offseason and you're going into it, I want to

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Speaker 1: bring this up. The thirty fifth pick huge is so

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Speaker 1: big and so important that's almost a bonus first round. Yes, exactly,

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Speaker 1: well said. That's what I'm saying. This cat, whoever it

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Speaker 1: is at thirty five, instant starter, has to be a

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Speaker 1: rash for the way it is right now. Am I wrong? No?

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Speaker 1: Not at all, No, not at all. Regardless of what

602
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Speaker 1: position it is, gotta play right, right. I think second,

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Speaker 1: first round, second round guys, especially with this year, this

604
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: team got to play. Gotta be looking at the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of in that area where you picked

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Speaker 1: up Pittman and Taylor a couple of years ago. Was

607
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: right in that high second round. Yeah, Paris Campbell was

608
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Speaker 1: in that as well. I'm looking at this year's draft.

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Speaker 1: Should the Colts go with a quarterback with that first

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Speaker 1: round pick? I'm thinking about and I'm kind of tapping

611
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Speaker 1: into a little bit of nostalgia and a great deal

612
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Speaker 1: of optimism here. But think about the development of Andrew

613
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Speaker 1: Luck when he was able to walk in the building

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Speaker 1: with a guy like t Y Hilton and you had

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Speaker 1: those guys hand in hand over the course of their careers,

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Speaker 1: and how they were able to develop and grow being

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Speaker 1: rookies oft within the same class. And I think that

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Speaker 1: that could be a huge benefit for a rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: and for a high draft pick in wide receiver to

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Speaker 1: how those guys coming in together. Yeah, something about being

621
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Speaker 1: the same age and having the same commonalities of being

622
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Speaker 1: at the same place in your career, going through the

623
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Speaker 1: same thing, the same learning curves. I think there's a

624
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Speaker 1: lot too that that's a great point at Lara Overton

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at may take Colts on Twitter, Voice of

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Speaker 1: the Colts, Face of the Colts, learned a studio right now,

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Speaker 1: really quick, guys, we're gonna get onto a fun game

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Speaker 1: with JJ Brackett, J J. J. Brackett, J J J. Bracketts.

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Speaker 1: He's pretty good. JJ stank JJ Bracketts Colts Momentscket. But listen,

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Speaker 1: one last thing. I'm the only one that's thinking about this.

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Speaker 1: You know what free agent I love coming in this

632
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Speaker 1: year and is going to play pretty well. Matta No.

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Speaker 1: I look at him like a free agent, but he's not.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna laugh at me. Check Leonard. Oh, I see

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Speaker 1: your point. Just off the field last year, ye had

636
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Speaker 1: a cup of coffee in some games, made some plays,

637
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Speaker 1: then out for most of the year. Let's not forget

638
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Speaker 1: check Leonard come back in. And the reason I'm bringing

639
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: that up is we Bobbio Kaka is a great player,

640
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: but we may not think of them like this. If Shack,

641
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: who's on top of his game and one of the

642
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: top two, if not three in the NFL at his position,

643
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: if he plays Shack Leonard like, We're not gonna be

644
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: thinking of Bobby o'karakay because of what Zaya Franklin brings

645
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: to the table alongside Shot just talking about Shack Leonard,

646
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: and you think about, oh, yeah, we talked about the

647
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: surgery and all of that. He was coming back from that,

648
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: and then he comes in and plays, finally gets back

649
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: on the field, gets his face, face mask smashed in,

650
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: breaks his nose, gets a concussion. I mean that guy.

651
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: When you talk about a guy not able to catch

652
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: a break, that was Shack Leonard all of last season

653
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Speaker 1: and during the two different surgeries with the you know,

654
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: the back and the ankle situation, and then also that

655
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Speaker 1: on top of it all. My god, if anyone deserves

656
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: kind of that comeback year, it is Shack Leonard with

657
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Speaker 1: what he has been through the last three years in

658
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: this entire age. Yeah, he he You're rooting for him.

659
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: He deserves it considering all of the stuff he's been

660
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: through off the field. But quite frankly, the Colts as

661
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: a team, they need it. They need his playmaking ability

662
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: because they have questions in the second layer of the

663
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: defense and certainly in the back end. Like we talked

664
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: about also safety too. Throwing that because Rodney McLeod is

665
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: still a free agent. What do you do at safety?

666
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: Is it time for Nick Cross to again learning wood. Yeah,

667
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: think Rodney Thomas has solidified himself as a deserving starting role. Yeah,

668
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: he's certainly gonna play. He's gonna be a key contributor

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00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: for next year. Blackman's back. You know where's Nick Cross?

670
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: That's another We haven't really talked about that this offseason.

671
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 1: Is it time for him to play? Because last year

672
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: they were high on it and it just wasn't it is, Matt,

673
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 1: you go up in a draft to grab a guy,

674
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's mid to late rounds. You

675
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: covered him for athletic freak too. Yeah, I mean you gotta,

676
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: you gotta get some production out of that right now.

677
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: So listen, let's talk with a former cold who's now

678
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: flipped switches and is now on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the camera lens and the microphone, Robert Turban. Earlier today,

680
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor and I we caught up at the former

681
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: Colts running back. He's also a serious XM NFL radio analyst.

682
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: Here he is the big man, Robert Turbin. Let's say

683
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: hello to Robert Turban, former Colts running back two thousand

684
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: and sixteen through two thousand and eighteen. Matey, you remember

685
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: this young man ran hard and now on the other

686
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Speaker 1: side of the microphone a little bit, he's a Super

687
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: Bowl champ with the Seahawks. NFL insider for Sirius XM,

688
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: NFL Radio, CBS Sports Network, College football analyst Robert Turbin,

689
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: glad to see you on this side of the mic house.

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00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: Things going for you, Things are going well. Thanks for

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00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: having me. Been quite a long time since I've had

692
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to speak with you, fellers man, So, you know,

693
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: really excited, feel good about it all right? Good, Well,

694
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep that phone number handy for you because

695
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: you know the insides and outsides of this league as

696
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: well as the upcoming draft. I want to start there

697
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Speaker 1: with you, Robert. Is it an absolute must for the

698
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts to select a quarterback at the number four

699
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: draft position or possibly move up for one. I think so.

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00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: I think that the Colts have explored, you know, getting

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Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback over the last you know, four or

702
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: five years. It hasn't quite worked out the way that

703
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: they've liked. I do like the addition of Gardner Menshew though,

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00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: which I think in some ways does give the Colts

705
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: some real estate the last of a better word, uh,

706
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: to see what he can do. You know, Gardner Minshew

707
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: has shown some flashes now to be able to make

708
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: some plays as a starter in this league. And I

709
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: think the Colts are really really good fit for him.

710
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: And so you know, if the coach were to select

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Speaker 1: the quarterback there, you know you could still you could

712
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: still you know, utilize Gardner Minshew as your starter. You know,

713
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Speaker 1: if you feel like the guy that you get at four,

714
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: uh needs sometimes developed. But it's really hard to set

715
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Speaker 1: a guy when you when you choose them that high

716
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Speaker 1: into into the draft. But I know coach fans are

717
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, sick and tired of this maybe

718
00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: this patient approach. But the Colts have been taking especially

719
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: with the quarterback position. But if you look at it,

720
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: there's not that one guy that really separates himself, that

721
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Speaker 1: generational guy. And so I kind of like the way

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00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: the Colts are approaching it. But to answer your question,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see him draft the guy at four.

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Speaker 1: Robert Turbin, Hey, let's talk about Shane Stike and do

725
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: you like this fit? As the Colt's new head coach,

726
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: they went through a thorough offseason search a lot of

727
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: weeks spent on that, and finally owner Jim Mursey and

728
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: general manager Chris Ballard said, Hey, Shane stike and you're

729
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: our guy. What do you like about him? What did

730
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: you like at Philly? What you saw? Yeah saying is

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00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: he's got a bright offensive mind, right, younger coach, and

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Speaker 1: so he kind of relates to this, I guess younger

733
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Speaker 1: generation and some of the new things that they're doing offensively,

734
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: some of those dynamic plays that you're seeing, and you know,

735
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Speaker 1: even some of the basic stuff like your red zone

736
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: and your run pass options and all the things that

737
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Speaker 1: you're able to do off of those and really really

738
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: use your creativity, you know, offer those actions. And I think, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Shane Stikeen, you know, brings not only some familiarity,

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Speaker 1: but uh, you know a couple of extra wrinkles that

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Speaker 1: you can establish within your offense because of that. Robert,

742
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Speaker 1: I want to go back to the start of the

743
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: new league year. Free agency was last week. As we

744
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: sit here and talk to you right now, what do

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00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: you make a free agency around the NFL so far?

746
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Speaker 1: What are some things that have surprised you, just some

747
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: things that have stood out to you so far around

748
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: the NFL as some of these top dollar contracts have

749
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: been finalized and been made official. Yeah, you know, one

750
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: of the recent moves, um that I really liked, you know,

751
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: Charlie Garner Johnson to the Lions. They really get the

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00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: bolster up their defensive backfield with the addition of him,

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00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: and obviously with you know, Cam Sutton and others that

754
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 1: they've already added to that dB room. Um, you know, nothing,

755
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Speaker 1: nothing else that's striking me from a surprising standpoint other

756
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: than you know, Bobby Wagner, who's probably the top defensive

757
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: player in free agency, you know, still out there on

758
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: the market, and I think a lot of that has

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00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that, you know, he's an

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00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: older player, but he's still playing at a really high level.

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Speaker 1: And when you're playing at a really high level, that

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00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: means you're expensive. And when you're expensive, teams are real

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00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: hesitant on, you know, wanting to spend their salary cap

764
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: on a player who's in their thirties quite frankly, and

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00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 1: that's just the nature of the business that we're ends.

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00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: But you know, you see the season that he's come

767
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: off of, you see the last few seasons that he's

768
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: come off of and it's still quite surprising to see

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Speaker 1: him out there in free agency. But you know, I

770
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: think teams, you know, overall, have really done a really

771
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: nice job adding to the core of their football teams.

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00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: You look at a team like the forty nine ers

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00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: and Javon Hargrave. You look at the Seahawks and you

774
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: know some of the acquisitions that they have made it

775
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: to continue to balance out their team. And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you the one that kind of surprised me at first

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00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: was Daniel Jones getting the extension, only because I didn't

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Speaker 1: think that he had shown enough to be able to

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00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: get that deal. I thought he would get franchise, and

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00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: I thought stay Quon would be the one to get

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00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: the extension. But the Giants are high on him. They

782
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: feel like he has high potential and soon to be

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Speaker 1: their quarterback in the future. Speaking of being expensive there, Robert,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of this Lamar Jackson situation? Why

785
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: are teams are more teams not sniffing around on him?

786
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: And how do you ultimately see this playing out and

787
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: where he's going to play quarterback next year in the NFL? Yeah,

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00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: this is an ugly situation with Lamar Jackson. You know,

789
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: he wants. You know, Deshaun Watson and the Cleveland Browns

790
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: completely disrupted the quarterback market, no doubt. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you're looking at what he's done throughout his career and

792
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: you compare it to Lamar jackon Lamar Jackson saying, look,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you know he's able to get that

794
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: type of contract, I deserve that as well. And you

795
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: can't argue with that. I mean, that is the truth.

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00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: If if you're basic on that, it's it basically on comparison,

797
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: and what agents and players do is they are comparing

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00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: themselves to others when it comes to negotiations, negotiating you know,

799
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: these contracts amongst one another, and so it's an ugly situation.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to get resolved with

801
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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, but as it retains to you know,

802
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: paying that top dollar, obviously it handicaps you at some point,

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00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: maybe not immediately, but at some point it handicaps to you,

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00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to trying to surround the

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00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: rest of your football team with high quality talent, and

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00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: because you got all your money going to your quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and so that's where they head. Eton see, as we

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00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: know comes with the other teams, but you know the

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00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: team that i'd like to see really take a shot

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00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: on them is the Washington Commanders. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: with the acquisition of Eric the enemy at the quarterback

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00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: off of the coordinator position, I think you give him

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00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: somebody he can work with and continue to develop with.

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00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: They could really make some noise in the NSC as

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Speaker 1: Robert Turbin, NFL Insider for Sirius XM, NFL Radio, CBS

816
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: Sports Network, College Football Analysts, Super Bowl Champion. Hey, let's

817
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: stick to the AFC South for a minute. Here. We

818
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: got one quarterback that is doing all the things right,

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Speaker 1: and there's three other teams in that division, including our Colts,

820
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: that that will have a new starter at that position.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of the situation with the quarterbacks?

822
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: Obviously the Texans at number two, they're in need of one,

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Speaker 1: and what's going down with Derrick Henry and Ryan Tannehill

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee. Yeah, you know, with the Texas start there,

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00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: I think they're in a good position to be able

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Speaker 1: to draft one of the two best quarterbacks were in

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Speaker 1: this Jazz DJ Stout or Bryce Young, And obviously they'll

828
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Speaker 1: take the other depending on what the Carolina Panthers do.

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Speaker 1: My prediction is that the Panthers will take CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 1: and then the Texts will then end up with Bryce Young,

831
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Speaker 1: which would be a great opportunity for them and their future.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tennessee is you know, really it feels like

833
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: they're just kind of in the clouds right now. They're there,

834
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: their future does not look very clear on the direction

835
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Speaker 1: that they want to go. Ryan Tannehill has proven to

836
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: not really be the guy at especially at this stage

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00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: of his career, to be able to take you over

838
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: the hump. And with Derrick Henry, uh, he's still, you know,

839
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: one of the best running back in my opinion, he's

840
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: been the best running back in the NFL over the

841
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: last three or four or five season. But the fact

842
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: of the matter is, you know, you're paying him a

843
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: lot of money and you're looking like you're heading into

844
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: rebuild mode, and that SUPs the facts for the Tennessee Titans,

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00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know if they've accepted that, because you know,

846
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: they want to be able to compete and compete for

847
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: the AFC South. But the fact of the matter is

848
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: they're not there, and Malik willis who they drafted last year,

849
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: didn't show the promise when he got the opportunity to

850
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: play during the regular season when Ryan cannon Hill was injured,

851
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: and so you're you're handicapped in some ways in that spot.

852
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: Maybe they have a conversation with the Rams and see

853
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: if Matthew Stafford is available, what his health is like.

854
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: You know, we've heard the Rams potentially looking the shot

855
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. They seem to be cleaning house after getting

856
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: really Jalen Ramsey and others. So maybe there's an opportunity there,

857
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: But other than that, they have not prepared themselves well

858
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: enough for when Ryan Tannehill is exiting out. Staying on quarterback, Robert,

859
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: do you have to have as a guy that played

860
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: this game and as seeing the game evolve and you

861
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: cover it so intently like you do now, do you

862
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: have to have a dynamic quarterback these days in order

863
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: to be successful in the NFL? I mean, is that

864
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: where the game is going? And I say dynamic in

865
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: the sense that guys that can just extend plays make

866
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: things happen off schedule, like a Mahomes or a Josh

867
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: Allen or a Joe Burrow. Right, They're not the Michael

868
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: Vicks or they're not the Lamar Jackson, but they're athletic

869
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: enough to extend plays and make things. Just be a

870
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: playmaker when things aren't perfect inside the pocket. Well you

871
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: mentioned those names. With those names that you mentioned, those

872
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: seemed to be the top teams in the league. Well, right,

873
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: you do, you know, you do, you don't. You don't

874
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: have to have a guy that is extraordinary, but it

875
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: certainly helps to have a guy like that if you

876
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: want to get over the hump. And when you talk

877
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: about the mahomes Is in the boroughs of the world

878
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: and you mentioned Josh Allen, these are you know, these

879
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: are play making type of players who are able to

880
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: take their teams, uh, you know, over the edge. Now,

881
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: there's other ways to win. The forty nine ers are

882
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: a great example of that. Who can use maybe a

883
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: mid tier quarterback and still have a lot of great

884
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: success with a prime time defense. But does that get

885
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: you over the hump? We haven't seen it work, you know,

886
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers, but other teams, like you mentioned,

887
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: you get throw to throw Jalen Hurts in there for

888
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: the Eagles, either dynamic quarterbacks that are part of these

889
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: football or part of these franchises that help with winning

890
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: and winning consistently and so you know, he doesn't have

891
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: to be all world. It is certainly dynamic enough to

892
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: be able to make plays for you to get your

893
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: team over the hun That's Robert Turbin. He was an

894
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: Indianapolis cult running back. He was one of our favorites

895
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: from twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen. Well spoken guy, great perspective,

896
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: very intelligent as you can tell about the game, Jeffrey.

897
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: For you, Robert, when when did you know you wanted

898
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: to get into broadcasting post NFL career playing wise? Yeah, No,

899
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: I always did. I have my own radio show when

900
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: I was in Seattle my second year in the league

901
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: and my third. I did it for two years. It

902
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: was called the Turbo Show of the partnership with QU

903
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: ninety three YEP, which was a radio station there. And

904
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: as you guys know, when I got the Indie got

905
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: the opportunity to work with Anthony Calhoun. We did a

906
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: show together called sports Locker for a season which was

907
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: really fun, and so I knew I always wanted to

908
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: go this route. And uh, we are, Yeah, what do

909
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: you most enjoy about football? Now that maybe you didn't

910
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: realize or maybe you see the game differently now compared

911
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: to being a player, being inside the locker room and

912
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: just being you know, in the trenches so to speak,

913
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: every day. Is there anything that you take from football

914
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: now that maybe you see differently being on the other

915
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: side of things. Well, the one thing that I learned

916
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: before retiring from the game is, you know, I really

917
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: learned to see things from both perspectives. And so oftentimes

918
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: you have your player perspective, you have your management perspective,

919
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: and you never really jailed the two together. But the

920
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: reality is is you know, actually Frank Wore is one

921
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: who taught me this because you know, he would talk

922
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: to everybody, you know, within the organization and the reason

923
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: for that is obviously relationships so important, but you know,

924
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: it helps you to understand when when teams are making decisions,

925
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: it's you know, these are hard choices. You know, like

926
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: Colts fans are likely frustrated with the way things are happening,

927
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: but hey, what would you do. You know, if you

928
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: were Chris Ballad and the general manager of the coult

929
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: and you have all these intricacies that you have to

930
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: take into account when you're making you know, these decisions,

931
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: salary cap and you know, contract negotiations and you know

932
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: trade offers coming your way, and you know, all the

933
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: things that are happening drop this season. It's hard, you know,

934
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: it's hard to make those choices. And so if there's

935
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: one thing that I learned towards the end of my

936
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: career that I like to that I like about this

937
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: side of it is that I get to actually, you know,

938
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: share the perspectives from both sides, right and not be uh,

939
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, so one sided you know, all the time,

940
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: and really try to help our listeners understand that, you know,

941
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: there's two sides to every situation, and you know, these

942
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: situations are it's not easy to say, draft a quarterback,

943
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's not that simple. You know,

944
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of complications that go into making

945
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: these choice. So the thing that I enjoyed the most

946
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: is sharing the perspective from both the players side, you know,

947
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, but also from the management tide behind

948
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: the scenes as well. Yeah, and Jeffrey, if you've seen

949
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: Robert lately, this guy can still play. I mean, Robert

950
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: Turbin still looks like Robert Turbin of old Robert. If

951
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: you go out right now and you get love it

952
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: if you get If you get twenty carries in a game, Robert,

953
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you go for a buck ten and a touchdown.

954
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: What do you think I'll take it. I'll take that

955
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: all day. I love I swear I was gonna ask

956
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: him the same thing I was giving him twenty two carries?

957
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: Could you bust right there? And He's like, absolutely Roberts.

958
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: So appreciate it. Look forward to watching you and your

959
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: second career. Obviously, thanks for all the fun you provided

960
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 1: for Colts fans for a couple of years and obviously

961
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: up in Seattle as well as a Super Bowl champion again.

962
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: You can hear him on Sirius XM, NFL Radio and

963
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: also CBS Sports Network. That's Robert Game, Robert Turbin. You're

964
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: gonna hear a lot more about that young man on

965
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: your TV dials, on your phones, on your radios and everything.

966
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: Good job by him, matey. Hey, some of these guys say, hey,

967
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: we gotta do something after our football career ends. I

968
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: like the ones that stay in and say, hey, I'm

969
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna dump jump in this pond and see

970
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: if I can get my hands and when you, like

971
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: he said, when you when you talked to Robert in

972
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: the locker room from two thousand and sixteen to twenty

973
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: and eighteen, you could tell like this guy he thought

974
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: about his answers. He was insightful, he was well spoken.

975
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: Like we said, um yeah, not at all surprised that

976
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: he is dipping those toes into that water. And uh,

977
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: so far, so good. He's on the rise, man, Good

978
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: for him. Did you see J. J. Stakmis joined us again?

979
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: Lara Overton, Matt Taylor. I am the Gore man and

980
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: we're talking. Uh what we're talking is Colts Moments bracket.

981
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: But before I get there, did you guys see that

982
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: von Miller wants to be a GM in this league? Oh?

983
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: I see Miller. Von Miller is already on it. So

984
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: he was at the NFL combine with Brandon being the

985
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: Bills GM. Sure, here's my von Miller is already on it,

986
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: ready to be a GM. At about twelve thirty in

987
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: the morning, I'm at the hotel bar A at JW. Marriott,

988
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: and I look across and there's Von Miller schmoozing it up.

989
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: That's what you do when you're you're GM. In the

990
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 1: n I qualifies you to be a GM. I should

991
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: have been a GM five. It's all about doing the

992
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: schmooze at the NFL combine. And von Miller is already

993
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: getting that training down. Where's my corner office? That Lars

994
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: the Executive of the year spill. But it's along the

995
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: same lines of Rand car Bilpoleon over here. I'm a

996
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer GMT. If that's our standard, it's it's

997
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: along the lines. I wanted to bring this up. We

998
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: really never really talked about this, but Rand cart On,

999
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: a guy who used to be in this locker room

1000
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: and stuff, and said, hey, I kept my eyes and

1001
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: my ears open. I wanted to find out I'm not

1002
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: gonna last in this league very long. Ran Carton now

1003
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: running things down in Tennessee. And what a job he is.

1004
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: He is overhauling things right that roster? Yeah, and what

1005
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: do they can do with Derek Henry? What did they

1006
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: do at the quarterback position? Those guys gonna move up?

1007
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out. All right, let's have some fun.

1008
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: JJ Bracketts I called them earlier. We'll call JJ stake

1009
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: if it's dest for this segment, it's called colts moments bracket.

1010
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: Everyone is involved here because the spirit of the NCAA

1011
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: Double A Tournament and March Madness is here. So we're

1012
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: gonna bust out a bracket on the top recruit. And

1013
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm just sorry. I don't have a dog in the

1014
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: fight because I was at Saganaw Valley State, so it

1015
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. But way back in the day, but

1016
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: I got IU here, I got two, I got an

1017
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: EU E lum here, I got a Missouri lum here.

1018
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: I got a Franklin College alum who's basically was part

1019
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: one foot in the program down in Bloomington because you

1020
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: love the football and basketball program. So I'm gonna I'm gonna, guys,

1021
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: what the I mean, what happened to you guys in

1022
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: the past couple of days with these great teams, these

1023
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: great individual players, this kid, Tracey Jackson, whatever it is

1024
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: making history as far as the first round of the

1025
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: thing and the women of IU guys and Missouri losing

1026
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: the Princeton over there, just go ahead, go at it.

1027
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: Before we go into our brackets. Where's Reggie Wayne, I

1028
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to speak to Reggie. I don't

1029
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: want to speak to Reggie until later in the week

1030
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: because I have one message for Reggie now is it

1031
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: two words? No, no, nope, it is take care of

1032
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: Houston for all of who's your nation because because of Sampson.

1033
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: So that's that's so. I have a little bit of

1034
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: a twenty four hour morning period, you know after this,

1035
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: maybe thirty six hours, since I have two losses to

1036
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: recover from that, I'm gonna make a trek down there

1037
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: to eighty seven West fifty sixth Street and uh talk

1038
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: to Reggie and tell him to go take care of

1039
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: the coust take care of And we talked earlier about

1040
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: Norm Stewart's not walking through that door anymore. I'm sorry,

1041
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: but Missouri, uh, you know, took it on the chin

1042
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: to Alec Pearis's younger brother. That's the bottom us. It's fine,

1043
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: It's fine because you know what, at least Kansas got

1044
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: eliminated on the same day too, just like you, just

1045
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: like Lara, probably super happy to Ford got no no, no, no,

1046
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: all right, here's here's got it. Now I'm getting fired up.

1047
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: So I am not the type of IU fan that

1048
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: roots against Purdue in these situations. Now, I Purdue going

1049
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: head had Obviously my allegiance is to IU, But having

1050
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: covered the Purdue programs in my many years working at

1051
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, in local news in Indianapolis, I respect the

1052
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 1: heck out of Matt Painter and he is a phenomenal

1053
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: basketball coach. He's incredible to deal with. He is one

1054
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: of the classiest in the business. I admire so much

1055
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 1: of what he has done with that program, especially because Mate,

1056
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: there has been so much dysfunction at Indiana since the

1057
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: departure of Bob Knight. Of course, they got back to

1058
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: the national championship game with Mike Davis, but they have

1059
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: struggled to be relevant from a national perspective until very recently.

1060
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: We went through the era of Kelvin Sampson and Tom

1061
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: Crean and Archie Miller, and now we have Woody back

1062
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: running the show and they're getting back right. They're they're

1063
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: building thing. But Perdue has been consistent. They're always a contender.

1064
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: They're always one of the favorites in the Big Ten.

1065
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: So I was devastated to see Perduc go down that way,

1066
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: because you want the Big Ten Conference to do well

1067
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: in the tournament. Now we're putting all of our eggs

1068
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: in Izzo. That's that's all we got. Always be the case. Yeah.

1069
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: Did you see Zire Franklin's tweet from yesterday, Man, I

1070
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: didn't realize how big the IU Purdue beef is. He's like,

1071
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: I got to pick a side, like because it's been

1072
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: a while since they've both been good at the same time.

1073
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: That's why twice this year. That's right. Hey, we're gonna

1074
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: stick with that really quick. I want to throw this.

1075
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: Say Cam Newton is throwing at the Auburn Pro Day.

1076
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: Why I'm just saying, hold on a minute, Cam Newton

1077
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: throwing at the Auburn Pro Day. Lara Matt JJ, is

1078
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: he playing in the NFL next year? No? Yeah, no, no, no,

1079
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: I got two nos in one, yes, Lara, tell me

1080
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: why you will. I think that, as we saw last season,

1081
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: teams got really desperate for quarterbacks at some point in

1082
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: the year. I think that it's it's a position where

1083
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: you need some depth and you need I mean, look

1084
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: at look at what Baker Mayfield has done in the

1085
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: last year. He like you know, gets Amazon primed over

1086
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: to La and wins the game on Thursday night after

1087
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: walking shipping container you put your elbow underneath. Yeah, signs

1088
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: a deal in Tampa Bay. I mean, look at if

1089
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: if Baker Mayfield is getting a second Stanza here in

1090
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: the league, I think that someone like Cam Newton for

1091
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: certainly is worthy of probably getting a shot at a

1092
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: team that either is going to, you know, need depth

1093
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: behind a rookie or inevitably you're gonna have you know,

1094
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: guys get banged up. So I think at some point

1095
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: next season you'll see Cam Newton's strap on a helmet. No,

1096
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean if he can throw a football. Just watching

1097
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: him throw over the last couple of years has been painful,

1098
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: just the mechanics and yeah, just certainly not as dynamic

1099
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: as he was. I'm just the beating that he took

1100
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: over his time in Carolina. He's great player, absolutely phenomenal player.

1101
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: I hope he plays because the NFL is better when

1102
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: camp right. Absolutely well, we got a lot of time

1103
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: before the draft and all these answers, hopefully we'll be

1104
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 1: figured out. I'm following every storyline. There's a quarterback situation

1105
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: in New York as well in the Big Apple we're

1106
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on. But that's where another show down

1107
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: the road. Wow, now we go to the Colts Moments bracket.

1108
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: We've been talking about, folks. Here we go we got

1109
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: four seeds on this The one will be against the four,

1110
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: the two verses the three. Are you ready number one

1111
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: seed Jonathan Taylor's sixty seven yard touchdown run to sync

1112
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots in twenty twenty one. That is a number

1113
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: one seed that's going up against the four seed, which

1114
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: is Paris Campbell's thirty five yard game winning TD to

1115
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: beat the Raiders in twenty twenty two. Maytay start with

1116
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: you who wins that matchup? Yeah? I think the spread

1117
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,479
Speaker 1: on this line here, I think it's like a six

1118
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: point spread. I got Jonathan Taylor's big, impactful touchdown run

1119
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: against the Patriots winning this match chub because if you

1120
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: go back to the context of that game, in that moment,

1121
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: the Colts hadn't beat the Patriots since like what two

1122
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: thousand and nine. It was a Colts home game, Saturday

1123
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: night game. I think it was primetime game right before Christmas.

1124
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: The Colts were in a playoff push Colts in that game,

1125
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: if you remember, they were having a hard time throwing

1126
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: the ball. Carson Wentz was struggling, everybody was getting nervous.

1127
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: The Colts got out to a big lead. Here comes

1128
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots in the second half. I think it was

1129
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: a three point game. Colts had the ball late, just

1130
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 1: trying to grind it out, get a couple of first

1131
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 1: downs in the ground. Everybody knew the Colts were gonna

1132
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: give the ball to Jonathan and then Bamo. One of

1133
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: the best moments for the Colts shoulder to be sure

1134
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: that no one is going to catch him. That's the

1135
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: best image. While glancing over the shoulder. He still hit

1136
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: the top speed of any player in the NFL in

1137
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Week's glancing over his shoulders, but he

1138
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: can have the sideline to see if anyone's telling him

1139
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: to go down, and he's still going faster than any player. Ran. Oh,

1140
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: that's great. Okay, I'm thinking that's everybody's one seed. You're

1141
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: gonna pick that great job by Paris Campbell. But you

1142
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: are out right now. Okay, let's go around the table again.

1143
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: We're going to number two seed. Right now between the

1144
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: two and three seed is going to take on that

1145
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: number one seed of JT sixty seven yard touchdown run

1146
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: to sink the Patriots. Here we go, number two seed.

1147
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: We go back to JT his monster game against the

1148
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: Bills in twenty twenty one, setting a franchise record with

1149
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 1: five tds in one game, and here we go, that's

1150
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: up against the three seed the Colts upset win over

1151
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: the eventual Super Bowl champion Chiefs in twenty twenty two.

1152
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: What say you, Lara Okay. As much as I love

1153
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: the three seed here, because it was such a complete

1154
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: effort that Gilani Woods touchdowns in that the defensive stand

1155
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: to close it out, I'm not sure that we will

1156
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: witness another performance like what we saw from Jonathan Taylor

1157
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: in Buffalo in twenty twenty one. That was one of

1158
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: the most incredible athletic performances athletic performances period, not just

1159
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: football performances, singular game that was absolutely unbelievable and for

1160
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: the height of where the Bills were at that point,

1161
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: and then all the storylines that went into it. You've

1162
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: got Frank c Reik going back to Buffalo, and you

1163
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: know the Colts were at that point starting to find

1164
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: form in the twenty twenty one season. That was absolutely incredible.

1165
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: In the locker room speech afterward, and you know, that

1166
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: was I think two where you started to see Jat

1167
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: solidify himself as the best back in the game that year.

1168
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: I don't have any disagreement there, except I do just

1169
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: want to highlight that came against the Chiefs. The Colts

1170
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: held the eventual Super Bowl champion, who scored thirty eight

1171
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: points in winning the Super Bowl. They held them to

1172
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: seventeen points, their lowest output of the twenty twenty two season.

1173
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: And what Gus Bradley showed me in that game is

1174
01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: that he is very good at developing game plan for

1175
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: certain offenses and tweaking things for certain offenses, which he

1176
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: did against the Eagles when the Colts played a completely

1177
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: different style of defense che Philly and you know, shut

1178
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: down the run game of the Eagles. Against the Chiefs.

1179
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 1: It was we're gonna keep Mahomes in the pocket, We're

1180
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: gonna plaster in coverage on the back end, and we're

1181
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: gonna make it hard on Mahomes, are gonna get him

1182
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: to hitch a couple times. And that's where he made

1183
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: the mistake at the end of the game. That's to

1184
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: find Gilmour wound up picking off to seal it that game.

1185
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: For me, Like, if you're wondering why Gus Bradley is

1186
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: still the Colts defensive coordinate coordinator, go back to that

1187
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: Chiefs game. Go back to the Eagles game. Look at

1188
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: how different those two defensive game plans were, and look

1189
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: at the outcome of those holding both those team to

1190
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: seventeen points that combined to score billion points in the soup.

1191
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: That's a two versus a three seed. Maytay. Where am

1192
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: I going by the deciding vote here? I think so?

1193
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: I think it's a close game. The only problem with

1194
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: the upset went over the eventual Super Bowl champion Chiefs

1195
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: is that the Colts just weren't able to capitalize off

1196
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: of that. They weren't able to do anything with I

1197
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 1: know it was an early season win, Week three, first

1198
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: win of the season, but the rest of the season

1199
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: was obviously a roller coaster after that. So I am

1200
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: going to give the nod to Jonathan Taylor's monster game.

1201
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,959
Speaker 1: And we forget he scored five touchdowns in that game,

1202
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: but he did it in the first three quarters. He

1203
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: didn't play at the fourth quarter because the Colts were

1204
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: blowing him out. So five down's right enough. Today's became

1205
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: the Gatorade a player in NFL history to record one

1206
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five plus rushing yards, four rushing touchdowns,

1207
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: and one receiving touchdown in a single game. So that

1208
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: is a historic game, historic moment for Jonathan Taylor. Let's

1209
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: figure this out. Is it upset city for this one?

1210
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: The number one seed taken on the number two seed.

1211
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: Here it is again number two seed. JT's monster game

1212
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: against the Bills in twenty one, twenty twenty one, setting

1213
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: a franchise record five tds in that game Versus Jonathan

1214
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: Taylor's sixty seven yard touchdown run to sync the Patriots

1215
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Guys, we got a one versus

1216
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: a two. JJ start with you. Yeah, I mean, since

1217
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: it's a moment, I'm going to the singular moment of

1218
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: JT's touchdown, all right, But oh my god, I mean

1219
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: there's not like a singular moment from that five touchdown

1220
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: game that that stands out to me because it was

1221
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: just such a dominant performance from start to finish. Right, Um,

1222
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll probably take the moment at JT's number.

1223
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: That game was in prime time, The Bills game was

1224
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: a s afternoon rainy day. May Jay, where are you going? Um,

1225
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of agree with JJ. I'll go

1226
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: with the moment, the run, the signature moments. That's three years,

1227
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: it's over the game. So I'll take the top seated

1228
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: Taylor run. But let's go to Lara Overton. What would say?

1229
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: What would you say if I picked on you first?

1230
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: I'm going number two. You are I'm taking the most.

1231
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: I am because of a number of different factors, one

1232
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: of which being the Bills have been much more playoff

1233
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: prominent in recent seasons. So although there is all the

1234
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: history between the Patriots and the Colts and all of that,

1235
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: the Bills have been one of the better teams, one

1236
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: of the best teams in the AFC, in the entire

1237
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: league over the last few years. I think that was

1238
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: overall truly a bigger win despite kind of the rivalry,

1239
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: the perceived rivalry that there is between New England and Indianapolis.

1240
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm going with the Bills. That defense has been incredible.

1241
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, the New England defense wasn't

1242
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: what the New England defense really has been of late,

1243
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: or has been in historically when it's been of late.

1244
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: So I'm still I'm still going with the two seed.

1245
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm still going with those five touchdowns. It was just unbelievable,

1246
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: one of the best again performances I've ever witnessed. And

1247
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: I just thought, again, it really solidified from a national scale,

1248
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: people taking Jonathan Taylor seriously as as a contender alongside

1249
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, the conversations with Derrick Henry and all of

1250
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: the very best backs in the league. Yeah, I'm sticking

1251
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: with the two seed. Good deal. Let's keep him on

1252
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: bubble wrap Jonathan Taylor this offseason. Are you the swing

1253
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: vote we got? I'm not because I want to keep

1254
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: it at at an odd number, so I'm not going

1255
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: to do that. But if I did, I would say that.

1256
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: If I did, why not, mate, take your call of that?

1257
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: Sixty seven yard was great? It was, and it's it's

1258
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: logged in the back of my second and eight for

1259
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: the Colts. WinCE under center, hands off to Taylor. Taylor

1260
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: pick roun. He's like the forty five, fifty, forty thirty,

1261
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty fifteen ten, John Taylor sixty seven yards

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Speaker 1: to house. J T. Pater. I got some juice bumps there,

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Speaker 1: no time. I got goose bumps. There maya So I

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Speaker 1: was down on the field, so I can't. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: But don't you screw it up. Don't screw don't screw

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Speaker 1: it up. Don't screw it up. Did you go full

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Speaker 1: Kevin Harland spread across? Did you do that right? You're like,

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Speaker 1: let out, this is what thisen? Shut up? Shut up,

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Speaker 1: shut up, shut up. I love it. Great call that

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Speaker 1: don't step on the call that will go down and

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Speaker 1: hear street as one of the great Matt Taylor calls.

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Speaker 1: Bec there's a bunch of them. So that's what We're

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Speaker 1: just gonna give it. Mate. The number one J J Lara.

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Speaker 1: You guys voted on this thing. JT sixty seven yard

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Speaker 1: TD run is the Colts Moment Bracket in the spirit

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Speaker 1: of the nc Double A Tournament. Unlike what happened with

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Speaker 1: the John Wooden Award, it is because is the zach

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Speaker 1: E of the Coults Moment Bracket. Shine all right there.

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Speaker 1: It is coming up this week on the Colts Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Hold up, folks, we got our NFL Combine. Content continues.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna leak out with chats and interviews from NFL

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Speaker 1: insiders all over the country. Inside the Draft is coming

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Speaker 1: back this week as well, having a live chat with

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft insider Shane Hallam from the Draft Countdown. We

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Speaker 1: also have interviews with new Colts assistant coaches, including special

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Speaker 1: teams coordinator from Zionsville Brian Mason, offensive line coach Tony

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Speaker 1: Sperrano Junior, and quarterback coach Cam Turner. And also the

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Speaker 1: last word every Friday the Colts offseason radio show Friday

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Speaker 1: nights o'clock ninety three five and one oh seven five.

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Speaker 1: I'd do that with Matt Taylor, Me and Mattee recapping

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Speaker 1: the latest with the Colts. It's time now to say goodbye,

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Speaker 1: but first we have Mate's Random Thought of the week. Guys, random,

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Speaker 1: let's get involved with this random thought and give our

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Speaker 1: give our thoughts on matte What do you got? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's go quick because I know we're running along here

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But you know, there was something weird

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Speaker 1: on Twitter from Dan Orlovsky last week about the the

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Speaker 1: usage of a towel, your own towel post shower. How

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Speaker 1: many times it's acceptable to use the same towel after

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Speaker 1: you bathe? Um, what is that number for you? How

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Speaker 1: many times is it acceptable for you to use the

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Speaker 1: same towel without washing it after a show. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go with Lara first on this one. I gotta, I gotta,

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Speaker 1: I just gotta get him collect because he said like

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Speaker 1: thirty times he uses the same towel thirty times, tis okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll just go I'm gonna spit it out and then

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Speaker 1: you guys go on the second time I use a towel,

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Speaker 1: I'm already thinking of, hey, I've got to swap this out.

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Speaker 1: And if I'm in a pinch and I didn't get

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Speaker 1: the new towel out of the cupboard or whatever down

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Speaker 1: the hallway, then I got to use it a third time.

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Speaker 1: That's the most Two is my limit. More most likely

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Speaker 1: if my memory serves me right, and I remember to

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Speaker 1: grab a towel three times, and I'll do it, but

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Speaker 1: I know that's the last of that, and that's going

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Speaker 1: in the tub where the where the other you know,

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Speaker 1: towels are gonna get washed eventually. Yeah, well thankfully for me.

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Speaker 1: Like my my wife is towel, she's on towels. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I really never get to this point. But hypothetically,

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Speaker 1: if I just was a bachelor and lived by myself,

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Speaker 1: probably three. But certainly I'm never using someone else's towel,

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Speaker 1: Like if someone else's if someone else's uses my towel,

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Speaker 1: that I just no, no no no no no no

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Speaker 1: no no no no no no, I I use. No,

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Speaker 1: if someone else uses the towel, doesn't matter. I'm out,

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Speaker 1: that's going to the lawn. Well, And here's the thing is,

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Speaker 1: like Tucker has like massive man towels. They're like a

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Speaker 1: bath blanket. So sometime times, you know, if it's a

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Speaker 1: little chilly, myself up in it, and then he's always like,

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Speaker 1: who used my towel? And obviously it's not tugboat like,

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Speaker 1: so I know, like I am really guilty on that. Um,

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Speaker 1: I would say I probably use I use my towel

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Speaker 1: over the course of like I don't know, five days

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Speaker 1: or so was probably an average, Like I certainly am

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Speaker 1: swapping it out at least once a week is what

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Speaker 1: I'm going with. And you know, and then there's of

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Speaker 1: course the day or two the day steel tuckers, which

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Speaker 1: is always fun. Yeah, I would I would like to

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Speaker 1: say I do it more frequently. I wash more frequently.

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Speaker 1: But we do so much freaking laundry at our house.

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Speaker 1: It's just constantly. Yeah, they're just so much laundry. We're laundry,

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Speaker 1: Like every single day. We just throw the towels in there. No,

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Speaker 1: because well if we throw the towels in with the

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Speaker 1: other stuff, our dryer stinks, So we have to do

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Speaker 1: the towels separately the moist because we have to put

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Speaker 1: the towels on like time dry for an hour and

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Speaker 1: forty minutes if we throw them in at the rest

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Speaker 1: of our clothes, and the rest of our clothes don't

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Speaker 1: get dry. So it's probably like once a week, which

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Speaker 1: I know is it's gross, but it's not our lobski

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Speaker 1: once a month thirty times. Yeah, that's ridiculous. What are

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Speaker 1: you the same town? What do you guys do out there?

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Speaker 1: Is it one time? I want to know those people

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Speaker 1: that go one wash, one shower, one tall. See, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense because you're you're clean, that's your Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're just it's just water. That's why I'm

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Speaker 1: not afraid to use my girls, because you know, she

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Speaker 1: smells better than I do and she's clean. So I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll grab this one, you know what i mean. So

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Speaker 1: that's how I'm with cups. You know, like if I

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Speaker 1: just drink water out of a cup, I don't need

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Speaker 1: to wash it. It's water. Just put it back into

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Speaker 1: them your germs cover. Oh no, see what? Yeah, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: that's that's for another podcast. What I know We're going

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Speaker 1: back to that one anyway. Listen, mate here, don't use

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Speaker 1: the cups and your wife using, your kids using what

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Speaker 1: if you have a cup? The kids don't use my cups,

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Speaker 1: they use their own cups. But if it's just me

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Speaker 1: and I know, I'm going to go back to that

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Speaker 1: cup and like a day, just in it's water. Put

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Speaker 1: it back. That's Mate's random thought of the week. We

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Speaker 1: do it every week right here on the Colts Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: to date with the Colts' latest moves, and there are

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Speaker 1: plenty to be had in the next couple of months,

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Speaker 1: so stick around. See you guys down the road.