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Speaker 1: The volume. Hi, everybody, welcome in. John Middlekoff is going

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Speaker 1: to stop mind about eight to ten minutes we're going

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Speaker 1: to do. He's got some great insight on the Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: Eagles getting Nolan Smith and Jalen Carter, so they load

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Speaker 1: up on the defensive front after having some free agent losses,

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Speaker 1: and the theory behind why the Eagles draft who they

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Speaker 1: do a couple of takeaways for me. In the first round.

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Speaker 1: The Packers continue over the last twenty years twenty five

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Speaker 1: years with Farv and Aaron Rodgers to have great offenses,

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Speaker 1: but they don't draft offense in the first round. They

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Speaker 1: have such confidence in their quarterback play, their offensive coaching,

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Speaker 1: and they're drafting and developing that they draft offensive players

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Speaker 1: in later rounds. So they go get the Iowa rush

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Speaker 1: end Lucas van Ness. Even though people speculated they needed

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Speaker 1: a wide run receiver, they certainly could have gotten the

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Speaker 1: Ohio state wide receiver Jackson Smith Nijigba. They passed. He

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Speaker 1: would have been a great get. Seattle got him later.

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Speaker 1: So teams tend to do what they do. And John

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Speaker 1: Middlkoff will talk a lot about why the Eagles draft

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Speaker 1: the way they do. But the Packers go in the

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Speaker 1: first round. I mean, look at green Bay. They've had

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Speaker 1: offensive coaches, star quarterbacks, excellent offensive lines for most of

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Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. It's what they do. They

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Speaker 1: do offense really well. The Patriots they do the secondary

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Speaker 1: Oregon drops to him. So people go back to what

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Speaker 1: they do well. And my takeaway on green Bay it's

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Speaker 1: a deep tight end draft. The tight ends did not

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Speaker 1: to go get a tight end and a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: They have two picks in the second round. So green

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Speaker 1: Bay does what they often do. They needed an edge rusher.

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Speaker 1: They get a big ten kid. It's in their geographical footprint.

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Speaker 1: That's what the Packers do.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a Northwest kid, right. I thought Seattle

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Speaker 1: did really, really well. First of all, Devon Witherspoon. Many

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Speaker 1: believed he was the best corner in the draft. Now,

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Speaker 1: Seattle nailed their draft last year. They got a starting

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Speaker 1: corner in the fifth and the sixth, but very much

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Speaker 1: in the building, it was understood Seattle wanted to get

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Speaker 1: another wide receiver and they wanted to get another corner

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Speaker 1: and another edge rusher well by getting Witherspoon with their

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Speaker 1: first pick and then going get the wide receiver, the

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Speaker 1: dynamic receiver that can play slotter or outside with their

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Speaker 1: second pick, Seattle has two seconds, a third, two fourths,

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Speaker 1: a fifth, to sixth to seventh. They already have answered

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Speaker 1: two of the three or four questions in the first round.

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Speaker 1: I suspect they'll go interior, offensive line, and edge with

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Speaker 1: their two second round picks. But I thought Seattle, if

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Speaker 1: you go back to last year's first six picks and

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Speaker 1: this shear's first two picks, the Seahawks I think are

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Speaker 1: now relying more on their GM and their scouting department.

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Speaker 1: I did feel that Pete Carroll had a little bit

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Speaker 1: too much say for years in their picks. I don't

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Speaker 1: like my coaches having a huge saying picks. It's hard

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Speaker 1: from it. Sean Payton largely stayed away from it. You

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Speaker 1: Seattle lean's now back into their scouting department, John Snyder,

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Speaker 1: and they have had great picks. I banged on the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks for years with their picks. I think they nailed

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Speaker 1: their first two picks. The other story, obviously, is Will

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Speaker 1: Levis not getting picked. I did a mock draft a

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Speaker 1: couple days ago on Fox Sports One. I did not

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Speaker 1: have Will Levis getting picked. I think two things. He

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Speaker 1: tests very well. He's a smart kid, but throws a

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Speaker 1: I talked to that didn't like him said the same thing.

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Speaker 1: He's falling in love with his arm. The gun show

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Speaker 1: A kid that's smart should make much better decisions in

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Speaker 1: He's got a little bit of a weird delivery, the

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Speaker 1: Will Levis is Will Levis likes Will Levis. He loves

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Speaker 1: It doesn't ask you to do things. Greg Gosell talked

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Speaker 1: Hooker's already old to begin with. It would probably take

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Speaker 1: may fall even further. You know, I feel bad anytime

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Speaker 1: not just by a PRODA and a combine. I don't

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Speaker 1: think will Levis did himself any favors with the bathroom selfie.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask yourself this, every time you see a

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Speaker 1: same thing? Really bro that that's your picture kind of

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Speaker 1: lacks self awareness. If you're a franchise quarterback, you gotta

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Speaker 1: let's bring on John Middlecoff. You know him, you love him.

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Speaker 1: He's part of the ball Podcasting digital network. We love

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Speaker 1: having him. Former NFL scout. Okay, let's start. I thought.

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Speaker 1: The first thing that jumped out to me is good

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Speaker 1: teams and good gms get value. The Belichick gets Christian

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Speaker 1: and the Eagles got, to me the best player I

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Speaker 1: moved up a spot. I mean to me, Philadelphia again.

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Speaker 1: They've got the culture, they think they have, the coach,

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Speaker 1: you know, Fletcher cox Age. I thought, Philadelphia got the

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Speaker 2: Well, I think, first and foremost, if you remember, several

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Speaker 2: years ago, they drafted Jalen Rager instead of Justin Jefferson,

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Speaker 2: and it really kind of bit him in the ass, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Justin Jefferson went on to be one of

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Speaker 2: best players from the best programs. What have they done

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Speaker 2: like why do you resign. Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham,

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Speaker 2: they're done because they bring a lot to the table.

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Speaker 2: And then when you get a situation like this, what's

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Speaker 2: if you meet a kid from LA or New York AAU,

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Speaker 2: they all play together in basketball, they've all played in football.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this guy, I think scared a ton of

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Speaker 2: taking some flyers because they felt really good about their

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, for those of you uninitiated,

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Speaker 1: John's a former scout. This is the kind of insight

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Speaker 1: but I think you're right on the money. And the

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Speaker 1: with c. J. Stroud, he is a first round quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I don't see a ton of juice. He's accurate. Jared

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Speaker 2: One thing? I was stunned in the sense that they

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Speaker 2: But if you're Demiko, why rush into this? You know,

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Speaker 1: You know, I think it's interesting the Bears picked Darnell right,

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Speaker 2: I actually thought coming into the draft that the Bears

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Speaker 2: we got you Dj Moore, we got you Mooney, we

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Speaker 2: see what you got. Yeah, same thing. The Bejon two Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: and if it does, let's keep on rocking and rolling.

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Speaker 2: And they got a bunch of picks right coming from Carolina,

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Speaker 2: the Bejon Atlanta. I remember watching Atlanta last year play

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Speaker 2: They had multiple running backs, multiple offensive weapons. Bijon Robinson.

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Speaker 2: You can't talk to anyone in the NFL that's like this.

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Speaker 1: He's literally I had two GMS tell me he's the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Character the whole thing. So I'm not against high character,

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Speaker 2: great players, but that position, when you already got running

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Speaker 2: really interesting last year. And obviously Kyle Pitts like they

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Speaker 1: John pff had it top five.

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Speaker 2: I didn't quite understand that pick. Now that's been out there.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't shocking because people are saying, like, keep an

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Speaker 2: a little bit of head scratcher, not because the guy

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Speaker 1: So one of the things that interesting is that Michael Mayor,

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Speaker 2: They clearly got pushed down in this draft, right. I

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Speaker 2: So we need a big body. And Philly ultimately like

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Speaker 1: And then they got John Seattle's got two two's, a

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Speaker 1: But I mean, if you look at last year's pick

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Speaker 2: Were with tackles, They got Kenneth Walker. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: games where I'm guilty. I thought they were going to

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I think we both agree Seattle did well.

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Speaker 2: I think in most drafts, when you see a guy

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Speaker 2: that you go, you know, I think it's fair to

429
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Speaker 2: say going into the any draft, a guy like him

430
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 2: is like an early second, you know, somewhere in like

431
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,959
Speaker 2: thirty two to forty pick. This draft was viewed as

432
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Speaker 2: pretty terrible, Like the difference between pick eight and twenty five.

433
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: You know, you might not be able to tell the difference,

434
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 2: like Ken Kaid going twenty five to the Bills might

435
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: be no different than the sixth pick, you know, So

436
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 2: it's just time will tell people were not that cop.

437
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: This was not Jamar Chase and the Waddles and the

438
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 2: Pinasoles and the Michael Parsons. That wasn't this draft. So

439
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: when you go, well, they got to a super Bowl

440
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 2: with Jared Goff when he had a great running game,

441
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: right with Sean McVay with LA and last year Jared

442
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: Goff statistically was excellent, Well they had another pick and

443
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: they got a linebackers their defense, I mean, I think

444
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson is going to be a really really good player.

445
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: To me, he's got some whiffs of Joey Bosa. I mean,

446
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: he's got a chance to be a twelve fifteen sack

447
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: guy next year immediately. So if their defense is just

448
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 2: incrementally better their offense. I mean, the USC wide receiver

449
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: they have as a stud, like you said, their offensive

450
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 2: lines of stud. Their coach, while he's an offensive because

451
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: he's a tight end, is really wired more like a

452
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: defensive tackle. I mean, he wants to be a tough,

453
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: physical guy. I'm with you. If you love this guy,

454
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: and I'm going to give them the benefit out because

455
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: I watched them last year and they were an expressive operation,

456
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: so I think they know the wiring. The other thing

457
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: is Dan Campbell came from Sean Payton, you know, over

458
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: that five or six year run when he got fired

459
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: from Miami and went there became an assistant head coach.

460
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: They had really good drafts during that time when the

461
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: Saints were really good at the end of the two thousand.

462
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: You know the teams right the seventeen eighteen nineteen, So

463
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Speaker 2: I think he knows the wiring of the guys. I

464
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 2: remember sometimes the Saints hed be like, well they did that,

465
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: and then it would work out right, So I'm with you.

466
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Speaker 2: It was a little eye opening because you see the

467
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: second running back come off at twelve. But I'm going

468
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: to give them the benefit of the doubt because I

469
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: know their play style and I know what they want

470
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: to do. The other thing is when's the last time

471
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: a running back from Alabama beside Trent Richardson hasn't worked

472
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL. You watch them all over the league.

473
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: They're all successful players well, and Jared Goff's history is

474
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: when Gurley was healthy, He's been a really good quarterback.

475
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: When Jared gets in trouble is third and long. Okay,

476
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 2: So is Detroit saying we love our OC, we just

477
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: don't want to get in third and long. You and

478
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Speaker 2: I know I saw Goff out duel Mahomes when they

479
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 2: had Gurley and naked run. Jared was getting you to

480
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. It's when the O line aged and

481
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: they didn't have a consistent run game. Now you' leene

482
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: on Jared Goff and it's not pretty right. So I

483
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 2: look at Detroit and I think they love their OC.

484
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 2: They have good young receivers, excellent O line, Swift got

485
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 2: banged up, and maybe they're just saying, listen, we're just

486
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: going to do a one to two punch and we're

487
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: going to go. And by the way, in that division,

488
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 2: the D line for the Vikings, the D line for

489
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: the Packers, the D line for the Bears. Are you

490
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 2: going to pick them to win the division? You pick

491
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: Minnesota last year? To me, obviously, injuries can happen, but

492
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Speaker 2: Detroit would be my pick as of recording this today

493
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: to win in the North.

494
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Speaker 1: And again, I think is Detroit looking at that division

495
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Speaker 1: and thinking our line is significantly better in those six

496
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: games against the d lines in our division. Can we

497
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: go five and one in that division?

498
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: For sure? And in a weird way because they haven't

499
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: even made them playoffs? Right, But if you assume that

500
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: they're going to be in the mix, the three teams

501
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: that are at the top of the conference, the Eagles,

502
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: the Niners, and Cowboys are all physical teams. So you're

503
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: getting this is not a lightweight fight. You're getting in

504
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: the ring to fight heavyweights, So you have to be

505
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: willing to play like that. And Dan Campbell is now

506
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: building a team. Who do they draft their second pick

507
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: in the first round a linebacker from Iowa? Right? I

508
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: mean they have a type of guy that they're looking

509
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 2: for to build their Honestly, that should translate to playing

510
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: the Cowboys the Eagles and just give them a chance.

511
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: If not in twenty three, the next couple of years. Obviously,

512
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: you know Jared Goff is going to be the guy

513
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: we talk about the most, but he's proven if you

514
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 2: can do it around him and their roster.

515
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Speaker 1: I liked a lot with the Lions. I have going

516
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: on a lot, so I mean the Will Levice situation.

517
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: I talked to people that I really trust and their

518
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: big concern with them was, listen, the kid is smart.

519
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: We know his mom went to an IV league school, Yale.

520
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: We know he's a four point student. Why is his

521
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: judgment so bad? And what I heard was Jay Cutler

522
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: is that Jay Cutler was arrogant and obstinate, and if

523
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: Jay had a rope, Jay had an arm, and if

524
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: Jay wanted to sling it, he didn't give a shit

525
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: what the coach said. And Jay, I'll argue it forever.

526
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Speaker 1: Jay had one of the best arms in the league

527
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: when he played. He had an absolute host. But Jay

528
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: was stubborn, rigid, difficult, and people worried Will Levis with

529
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: the selfies the gun show, look at me the combine.

530
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: He wore a muscle shirt I had. I had a

531
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: head coach and a GM told me they hated that.

532
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I listen, Brady Quinn works at Fox, and

533
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: I like Brady. But that was one of the knocks

534
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: I heard is that an he can't be jacked as

535
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback. You have to be fluid, and you don't

536
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: see biceps on Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning. Your take

537
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: on Will Levis dropping.

538
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that he was a fascinating

539
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: player coming into the season, and then the season was

540
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: a disaster, and I had people that really like him.

541
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: They aren't necessarily quote unquote decision makers, but are you know,

542
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: high in their organization. Said if coming out his junior

543
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 2: season or whatever, two years ago, when Liam Cohen, right,

544
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: the Rams guy, was his offensive coordinator, he would have

545
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: been a lock top five pick. Then he goes to

546
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 2: Rich Skangarello, who a lot of people are down on

547
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: disastrous season, and then, like you said, kind of has

548
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: a bad offseason. The lifting things, you're not playing offensive

549
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 2: tackle or lineback, No one cares. It's about pliability. It's

550
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: about fluidity. And that's a big knock on his game

551
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: is fluidity touch. And we've seen so many guys Brady

552
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: Quinn Kaepernick got really big. Whether you can throw at

553
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty miles an hour, If you can't

554
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: throw a strike, who cares? You're not going to make

555
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: the big leagues, right, So touch is a big issue

556
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: with him. I also think that like Anthony Richardson, who

557
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: this raw guy was viewed as very mouldable. One thing

558
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: I have heard like when he went and met with people,

559
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: they were just like you know what this guy means? Well,

560
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: like I would love to be around this guy. There

561
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: was a lot of positive vibes around him. Very grateful,

562
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: Like Anthony Richardson wrote a Penda letter. He was like

563
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: humble and grateful. And it's like, John, you look at

564
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: that and you think, Okay, this kid wants to learn. Yeah,

565
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: and whether it works out, only time will tell, and

566
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: more than the history would show us it probably won't.

567
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: But I know that a lot of people were down

568
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: on him and during the process came away the opposite,

569
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: like I'm rooting for this guy. I think this guy

570
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: not crazy to go in the top five is the

571
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: ceiling is sky high, and I think will Levis started

572
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: getting more negative and negative, not like you said anything malicious, right,

573
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: but the buff stuff to the lifting the pictures on

574
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: Instagram within the last month, like what are we doing?

575
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: You know, it's just I mean, he didn't I mean

576
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: he tumbled. I mean this was a guy that I

577
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: think after last season twenty one, when Kentucky had the

578
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: really good year, I don't see how he wouldn't have

579
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: been a top five pick, not with those measurables, right,

580
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: But then yeah, I mean I clearly the league is

581
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: very I mean, this is a quarterback star of the Leak.

582
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: For no one to touch him, right, it's crazy.

583
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So we get through the first round. So I

584
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: was told by the people I trust that the people

585
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: felt there was about twelve Usually there's eighteen, about twelve

586
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: first round players, and then from about thirteen until about

587
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: the twelfth pick in the second round, they're all about

588
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: the same. So Will Levis is probably going to go

589
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: at my guest top of the second. You know, Rams

590
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of picks, a second, two thirds, three fifths,

591
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: three six. When I looked at the Rams, I thought

592
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: to myself, if you're the Rams and you have you

593
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: got to get an edge. You got to get another receiver.

594
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: I think they want to back interior, offensive lineman, corner,

595
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: tight end. And you had eleven picks no first would

596
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: you be willing to forego if you're less sneed four

597
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: or five of those picks to just go get a

598
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: second second, have two thirds, get rid of your seventh,

599
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: your sixth, and two of your fifths, and just say

600
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: we need about six got with Stafford and Cooper cup

601
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: coming back wildly productive guys, We're going to go and

602
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: get about six players. Do you think teams would consider

603
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: doing that, giving up like they have two sevens, three six,

604
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: three fives?

605
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: What for them specifically? I talk to a buddy. I

606
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: think most people acknowledge the Arizona Cardinals right now are

607
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: viewed as the worst team in the league right just

608
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: roster wise, just a disaster. And a buddy of mine

609
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: was like, in the league on a really good team

610
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: was going, well, look at the Rams. I mean their

611
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: their roster is very questionable at best for a team

612
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: that tries to win it every year and be in

613
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: the mix. So yeah, I mean they never live in

614
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: the short term now. The only thing would be and

615
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: they're not really built like this, assuming Stafford is healthy,

616
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: would they want to just take it on the chin

617
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: and go for one of the guys next year? And

618
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: you'd go, well, based on mcveigh's history, could he take

619
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: a season at two or three wins? I would highly

620
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: doubt that. So yeah, I mean I would be shocked

621
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: if they don't get super aggressive tomorrow, you know, in

622
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: the second and third round, because they are not you know,

623
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: a lot of businesses. I think not just about twenty three,

624
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 2: but about twenty five, twenty six in any industry that

625
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: has not been their history, and especially with Sean Right,

626
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: who at any moment, you know, in any given year

627
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: for them could get fifteen million dollars to go call games.

628
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: So we are doing this at the very tail end

629
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: of the first So not only did the Eagles get

630
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, they got Nolan Smith as an edge with

631
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: the thirtieth pick.

632
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: They go blue chip guys from the best conference. That's

633
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: an edict in the organization and it pops on television

634
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: right when you watch them play. The forty nine Ers

635
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: don't necessarily have that, like you don't need to be

636
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: from the SEC, but they have a clear you're playing personality.

637
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: If you don't play like a certain personality, they're not

638
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: messing with you. They specific guy.

639
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Niners really draft physical players. You

640
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: become what you draft, right Like It's it's that you know,

641
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: you become what you eat, what you watch, what you draft.

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Speaker 1: Like if you look at the if you look at

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Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Niners, they are just wildly physical teams.

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Speaker 1: It's one of you know, Hendon Hooker or Will level

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Speaker 1: Us who goes first.

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Speaker 2: I think Will Levis still goes first, just based on

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Speaker 2: two years ago. You know, it's weird in these draft

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Speaker 2: rooms you still talk about what they were in high school,

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Speaker 2: what they were maybe early on in their career if

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Speaker 2: it turned, you know, turned a negative corner and the

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Speaker 2: guy struggled. So Hennon Hooker had one year. He's also

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Speaker 2: the same age as Sam Darnold. Sam Donald just played

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Speaker 2: on his fifth year option last year, so I mean,

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Speaker 2: and he's got a torn ACL. I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you were going to be in the in the

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Speaker 2: business of taking a question to me, it's a no brainer.

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Speaker 2: You would take Will the other thing. Will Levis has

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Speaker 2: played now one year, he struggled the other year in

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Speaker 2: NFL offense for two years. The Tennessee offense, while wildly

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Speaker 2: successful in college, is not viewed by both and most

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Speaker 2: NFL people, as you know, transferable immediately to right to

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Speaker 2: the field. So I back to the Eagles, I think

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Speaker 2: they have really just stayed so true to this. The

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Speaker 2: SEC guys, the big picture guys, think about the trade,

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Speaker 2: how they ended up here. Two years ago. They traded

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Speaker 2: Carson Wentz to the Colts, which ended up being a

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Speaker 2: first round so they had all those first round picks

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Speaker 2: and then they didn't need them. All, so they traded

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Speaker 2: to the Saints, who were desperate to live in the moment,

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Speaker 2: and that led them to get the Saints pick this year,

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Speaker 2: which led them to Jalen Carter, and then just their

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Speaker 2: own pick led them to Nolan Smith, who, let's face it,

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Speaker 2: the only reason he's there that late is he was

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Speaker 2: banged up this season. I mean, he's a in a

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Speaker 2: draft like this year, a guy like that healthy at

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Speaker 2: that program, with those measurables and that speed, No way

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Speaker 2: he's there, you know. I guess technically it's thirty one,

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Speaker 2: but because Miami gets their pick, take and it's the

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Speaker 2: thirtieth pick. Yeah, the Eagles just there's a reason when

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Speaker 2: you watch him play, their speed, their talent at every position.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're not taking guys from from random schools anymore.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at look at their top talent, look

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Speaker 2: at look at the programs they play in.

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