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Speaker 1: Let's go, Giants. Get out on the Giants Bubble, give

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Speaker 1: me some Job, part of the Giants Podcast Network's Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. I

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Speaker 1: am John Schmelk. Happy to bring in a very old friend,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Reco. We've known each other for more than twenty

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Speaker 1: years now, Jerry, from when both of us are at

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Speaker 1: the fan back in the day. You can find them

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Speaker 1: on the Boomer and Geo Show. He also does pre

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Speaker 1: impost for the Dallas Cowboys on Compass, and he's also

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Speaker 1: going to be doing play by play this week on

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Speaker 1: Compass for the Giants Eagles game nationally on the radio.

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Speaker 1: So if you're not in the Tri State area in

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Speaker 1: one of the cities where the Giants have a radio affiliate,

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Speaker 1: you can hear him doing the game with Boomer Sizon,

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Speaker 1: Phil Simms in the booth. And you're gonna have Greg

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Speaker 1: Gianatti on the sideline bringing that Boomer and g O

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Speaker 1: crew doing a live football game. Jerry, sounds like that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun, man, It will.

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Speaker 2: Be it'll be different too.

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Speaker 3: I actually did Eagles Giants last year for Compass Media Network,

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Speaker 3: so that was an interesting experience at the link as

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Speaker 3: you can imagine. But this is different because this is MetLife.

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Speaker 2: Stadium Giants Eagles and.

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Speaker 3: You know, as you mentioned the Boomer and Geo show,

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Speaker 3: but you know Phil Simms in the boot with is

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Speaker 3: pretty darn cool too, so it should be a lot

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't envy you. I know Phil very well

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Speaker 1: and we all know Phil likes to talk. Boomer is

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Speaker 1: no stranger to talking either, and they've had this spar

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Speaker 1: before on the CBS pre and post game shows on TV.

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Speaker 1: So are you bringing security in to try to control

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Speaker 1: them from going at it after these places? Who can

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Speaker 1: get their point in?

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: I think I'll stand in between the two of them,

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Speaker 3: but they'll be fine. They they do like to talk,

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Speaker 3: and so I figure just get the call in and

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Speaker 3: get out of the way and let them do their thing.

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Speaker 3: And then of course we've got to bring in Geo

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Speaker 3: from time to time. So it's going to be I

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Speaker 3: would think a fast moving quick three hours for sure.

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Speaker 1: Have you guys had like a production meeting yet or no?

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Speaker 3: No, to be honest with you, though, John, there's no

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Speaker 3: production meeting to be had. I've done I think I've

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Speaker 3: the last fourteen years, which I can't believe I'm saying that.

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Speaker 3: But I've heard this broadcast. I've done this broadcast, and

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Speaker 3: it really is the way Michelle Salvator put it together

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Speaker 3: years ago.

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Speaker 2: It's so self contained.

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Speaker 3: The producer plays a big role, and it's if you've

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Speaker 3: ever done a game. Phil and Boomer have done one,

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Speaker 3: two or one hundred. There's really no need. We know

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Speaker 3: what we're doing, so it'll be good.

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Speaker 1: Now, are you going to try to get something a

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Speaker 1: little bit different at a Geo from the sideline or

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: So Geo knows and he has told this story before.

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Speaker 3: Geo knows the the the equipment manager for the Eagles,

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Speaker 3: so he's going to have a couple of interesting stories,

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Speaker 3: I think, just from talking to him, and then he'll

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Speaker 1: And for Pod don't know. Do you actually did sideline

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Speaker 1: so let's talk about this game, Jerry. What are the

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Speaker 3: because it wasn't this season. The Giants offensive line. When

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Speaker 3: And the Giants, I thought they're kind of where I

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Speaker 1: Well, Jerry's funny, I have a list of topas that

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Speaker 1: First things first, on Andrew Thomas, because I think it

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to chip over there get you know,

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Speaker 3: And I do think you're right as a whole. We

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Speaker 3: You're right, they should provide some stability. That having been said,

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Speaker 3: I also see when the quarterbacks blind side is not protected.

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Speaker 3: it's a problem. And then you're dealing with a quarterback

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Speaker 3: So I do agree with you they're more equipped to

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Speaker 3: I am tired of having pointless football in November in

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Speaker 3: and win a couple of the if they ever won

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Speaker 3: Sunday and beat the Eagles, a team that they have

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Speaker 3: so much trouble beating, all of a sudden, you look

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Speaker 3: They should have won the game later. I mean, let's

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Speaker 3: be honest, they have a kicker. They should have won

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Speaker 3: Tracy's been really good and Neighbors is bad. They should

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Speaker 3: I think this Sunday's game to me, is critical for

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Speaker 1: No, look, absolutely, And look, I think that's the frustrating

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Speaker 1: they've lost games that they've been in at the end

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Speaker 1: because of you know, whether it's special teams, drop passes,

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'll put myself in his shoes, i'd

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Speaker 3: I mean, if that rock is gone, like I said,

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Speaker 3: I think it has to creep into your mind. I

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Speaker 2: He's an impressive figure.

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Speaker 3: I hate the fact that when we talk about quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: in seven or eight of them gets completely dismissed, because that,

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Speaker 3: to me, is part of his home makeup. I think

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Speaker 3: the one thing that people will always throw on my face,

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Speaker 3: and I have no defense for it, is they don't

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Speaker 3: score enough points, and they don't score at home. At

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Speaker 3: And like I said, that's why I think Sunday's really big.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, they're averaging sixteen points a game this year.

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Speaker 1: That's not enough. You score seven points against the bad

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Speaker 1: Bengals defense last week. It's not enough. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: just aren't gonna win games doing that way. One hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. On the other side, Jalen Hurts, I

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Speaker 1: feel like he peaked two years ago, right, and I

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Speaker 1: It's been Jalen Hurts going down the mountain, right. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure why they bring in more to

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Speaker 1: still looks the same. What's your take on kind of

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Speaker 1: where Jalen Hurts is now that he has his full

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Speaker 1: dot com, slash Giants and Jerry. Honestly, I think this

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Speaker 1: The Eagles get the more dynamic individual back they go

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Speaker 1: Like that jump defensively for the Giants, Jerry, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yes, and the one catch you just alluded to with

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, he was well covered, he was and that

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Speaker 3: throw was just in the perfect spot. He makes a

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Speaker 3: great catch, and the the game breaking play was by

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Speaker 3: the quarterback who runs for fifty yards as they're trying

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Speaker 3: to cover on the back end. The fact that I

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Speaker 3: know Jamar Chase's numbers look good that night, but I

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Speaker 3: agree with you, they did a really good job of

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Speaker 3: containing him and not letting him win the game. Again,

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Speaker 3: the Giants had that they had two field goals to

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Speaker 3: take the lead, for God's sakes, and the late and

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Speaker 3: the third and then the fourth, and who knows what

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Speaker 3: happens if one of those kicks go in.

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Speaker 2: They should have won.

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Speaker 3: They really they played good enough to win that game.

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Speaker 3: But again, that's you gotta win in this league. You

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Speaker 3: can't say should have, could have?

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Speaker 2: They didn't.

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Giants. All right, Jerry, real quick, let's

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Speaker 1: go around the division a little bit. You're very close

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Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. You look at their record, you're like,

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Speaker 1: all right, it's fine. Then you look at how they

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Speaker 1: lost the three games they lost, and you're like, that's

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Speaker 1: not fine. Where are the Dallas Cowboys right now?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Purgatory, That's where they are, because it's it's everything

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Speaker 3: you just said. Stats can lie, records can lie. They're

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Speaker 3: three and three, and there's no doubt. When you win

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Speaker 3: three road games, it's impressive. And there's you know, if

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Speaker 3: you've played three road games and you're three and zero

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Speaker 3: on the road, that's great. The problem with that is

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Speaker 3: what I look at now is a Cleveland team that's.

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Speaker 2: Not very good.

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Speaker 3: And week one we didn't know that. Week one, I

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Speaker 3: thought of you going to Cleveland, you win, hell of

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Speaker 3: a job. Well, Cleveland kind of isn't good. The Giants

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys have owned the rivalry. I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, but they've owned it.

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Speaker 3: All right, Fine, they win that game, and then you

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Speaker 3: look at the one in Pittsburgh, good win, last minute.

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Speaker 2: Drive, that's great. I don't think the Steelers are that good.

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Speaker 3: So you take those three aside, and now you look

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Speaker 3: at what they've done at home, where they were dominant

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Speaker 3: at home until the Packer postseason game last year where

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Speaker 3: they got run out of their own building. So what

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Speaker 3: happens this year? They get a run out of their

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Speaker 3: own building by the Saints, who are good, they got

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Speaker 3: skilled players. The Saints have done nothing since that game,

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Speaker 3: so that's embarrassing. You'll see the Ravens scores can lie

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Speaker 3: twenty eight, twenty five. Sorry, not that close. They got

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Speaker 3: run out of their building in that game too. And

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Speaker 3: this last one, John, I don't know what the hell

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Speaker 3: I was watching and broadcasting that game, and I think

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Speaker 3: the Lions could have scored in the fifties. They didn't

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Speaker 3: punt ones and they had to settle for field goals

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Speaker 3: five times or whatever it was. They scored all nine times,

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Speaker 3: and they roll up forty seven on the Cowboys to

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Speaker 3: where they're running trick plays with their offensive tackles to

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Speaker 3: embarrass the hell out of them.

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Speaker 2: And I don't blame them. So where are they?

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Speaker 3: They're nowhere right now, and now the owner is yelling

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Speaker 3: at the I love the guy, but he's yelling at

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Speaker 3: the guys in Dallas, who he's talked to every week

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Speaker 3: every year for a decade. I don't I don't know

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Speaker 3: what's going on with that team.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're just like right now, there's too

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Speaker 1: much on their stars, right, I feel like Dak has

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Speaker 1: to be perfect for them to have any chance. Seedee

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Speaker 1: Lamb has to you know, go for one to seventy

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Speaker 1: for them to have any chance. And you know on defense,

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Speaker 1: they're missing so many guys, all their stars are hurt.

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Speaker 1: It just seems like right now the roster has been,

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Speaker 1: you know, spread so thin that if Dak's not carrying them,

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Speaker 1: they're haven't they just they can't do anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's been it's a mess all around.

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Speaker 3: And you're right, they're injured, and you know, you get

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Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs back, then Michael Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence get injured.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Kaylen Carson's coming back? You find out, Hey,

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Speaker 3: he's not quite ready. They're just not good. Eric Kendricks

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Speaker 3: was playing really well in the beginning. Now he's been out.

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Speaker 3: It's been a mess. And you got to question the

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Speaker 3: coaching staff too. I'll come back to you watch that

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Speaker 3: game against Green Bay in the playoffs. They weren't ready

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Speaker 3: to play that game. And I like Mike McCarthy, I

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Speaker 3: don't like firing coaches.

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Speaker 2: I really don't.

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Speaker 3: I like stability, but I do question their preparation because

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Speaker 3: it looks like they're just outclassed and out coached, especially

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Speaker 3: specifically actually in these home games.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jerry, I know you got to go. Final question.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Llen the Commanders. I thought they

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Speaker 1: were the worst team the division hang into the heading

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Speaker 1: into the season. I thought their offensive line wouldn't give

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Speaker 1: Jaye and Daniels a chance to succeed. Their defense has struggled.

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Speaker 1: I thought it would. But what they've done there and look,

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Speaker 1: we'll see if they can sustain it. I mean, tip

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Speaker 1: your cat man, what a what a great job. And

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Speaker 1: that quarterback is going to be a problem in the

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Speaker 1: division for a long time.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 3: The most impressive game I saw from them this year,

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Speaker 3: and it was a It was the loss of the

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Speaker 3: Ravens yeay either. I know they were down ten in

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter to them, but that game was closer

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Speaker 3: and close throughout.

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Speaker 2: And Daniels just, man, he looks the part.

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Speaker 3: And I know we've had quarterbacks that have had big

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Speaker 3: first seasons then regress a little bit, and maybe that'll

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Speaker 3: happen with him too.

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Speaker 2: But they look like a well coached team.

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Speaker 3: It looks like the stink of Daniel Snyder is completely

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Speaker 3: off that franchise. I'm if you're an NFC East fan

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Speaker 3: for the Eagles, Giants are Cowboys, I'd be concerned that

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Speaker 3: this Commanders team is for real because right now I've

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Speaker 3: got no indication to think that they're not all right.

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Speaker 1: Finally, Joy one one key to the game Giants and

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Speaker 1: Eagles that you think could determine the winner.

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Speaker 3: That's a good question because I think obviously we're talking

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Speaker 3: from a Giant stand point, it's you know what, it's

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Speaker 3: an obvious one. You can't settle for three. You gotta

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Speaker 3: put the ball in the end zone. I could see

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Speaker 3: here and say, run the ball, control the clock. The

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Speaker 3: problem with that is the Eagles have the ability to

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Speaker 3: score very quickly.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a matter.

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Speaker 3: Of putting the ball in the end zone and actually

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Speaker 3: putting some pressure on Philly to kind of respond with

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Speaker 3: touchdowns and not keeping the field goal is a great thing, man,

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Speaker 3: you put points on the board and all that, But

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Speaker 3: at the same time, it's also a detriment because it's

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Speaker 3: just it's deflating, Like the Giants have been so good

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Speaker 3: between the twenties, and then if you're in that building

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Speaker 3: and they're constantly setting settling for field the Cowboys. Every

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Speaker 3: first drive is a beautiful drive except for one thing.

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Speaker 3: It ends with a Brandon Aubrey field goal. They're just

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Speaker 3: kit It's positive, but they're killers at the same time.

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Speaker 3: So score touchdowns. That would be my biggest key.

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Speaker 1: Giants have played twelve quarters at home this year, Jerry.

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Speaker 1: They've scored one touchdown, so yess problem. Yeah, that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely good stuff, Jerry. I'll see on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the game, dude, you got it, John, Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Jerry reco joining us in the Giants Little Podcast forty

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Speaker 1: by Citizens, Official Bank of the Giants. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: next time. Everybody,