Speaker 1: Check it down Man Now Down Now Thursday morning, January
Speaker 1: Beating the Book podcast at gil Alexander Megapod for Championship Week.
Speaker 1: Just two games NFC Championship preceded by the a f
Speaker 1: C Championship, and as always we have the regulars from
Speaker 1: Circus Sports, the conciliary to Eric Stevens, and of course
Speaker 1: also the Vice President of Operations. By official title, It's
Speaker 1: Michael Palm. What's happening, Mike, Good morning? How are you.
Speaker 1: I'm doing very well. I'm gonna go through these games
Speaker 1: that happened last week because a couple of them anyway,
Speaker 1: We're unbelievable. And of course Todd wishing up from the
Speaker 1: uh showtime docuseries Action was happening. Toddy and our rotating
Speaker 1: guest back on the show for a playoff run. We
Speaker 1: wanted to have him here last week, but his podcast
Speaker 1: partner had a death in the family, so he was
Speaker 1: unable to join us. But he's here this week. He
Speaker 1: hosts the Lombardi Lin Saturday and Sunday Morning at Visan
Speaker 1: along with Pas Trick Maher six to nine Pacific nine
Speaker 1: in noon Eastern every Saturday and Sunday morning, has his
Speaker 1: own podcast called the GM Shuffle with ad Nan Verke
Speaker 1: rights for the Athletic and of course the book is
Speaker 1: Gridiron Genius. It's our buddy. Michael Lombardi was at and
Speaker 1: Michael not to be here. Thanks for having me, appreciating
Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Hello sir, We're happy to have you. I
Speaker 1: was saving you for the playoffs, for a return appearance
Speaker 1: on the playoffs. In the playoffs, so I'm glad you're here.
Speaker 1: Let's begin, guys, because I don't think it's gonna take
Speaker 1: very long. Two games, the winners of which, of course
Speaker 1: advanced the Super Bowl fifty four, two weeks down the road.
Speaker 1: Next week, by the way, it's our Vegas Lifestyle podcast,
Speaker 1: and then the week after that are Super Bowl Props
Speaker 1: super Bowl preview show. But as far as the championship games,
Speaker 1: first one is the a f C Championship between the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans and the Kansas City Chiefs. Kansas City right
Speaker 1: now seven point favorites with extra juice. That's the consensus
Speaker 1: seven minus one twenties somewhere in that pocket. Always shop
Speaker 1: around because these lines will vary. The totals of fifty three.
Speaker 1: The Titans are here by virtue of their win. Of course,
Speaker 1: over the Baltimore Ravens. The Ravens become just the sixth
Speaker 1: team in the modern age to go fourteen in two
Speaker 1: or better in the regular season than one and done
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They do it with another if you
Speaker 1: look at the box score. Another whole hum performance from
Speaker 1: their quarterback Ryan Tannehill only eight yards passing was seventy
Speaker 1: two the week before when the Titans be the Patriots.
Speaker 1: But they don't need that kind of yardage when Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry is going thirty, which is what he did against
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Also threw a touchdown pass on the jump
Speaker 1: pass uh in that game. Just an unbelievable performance by Henry.
Speaker 1: But really it came down to high leverage moments. Tannehill
Speaker 1: had his chances. He made the most of them his
Speaker 1: two touchdown passes also had one on the ground, plus
Speaker 1: three in turnovers for the Titans as well, and the
Speaker 1: biggest stat of the game the Ravens over four on
Speaker 1: fourth downs. Huge they're playing the Chiefs. The Chiefs by
Speaker 1: an even more unbelievable turn of events in Kansas City
Speaker 1: Houston up as we all watch twenty four to nothing,
Speaker 1: Kansas City dropping a couple of third down conversions of
Speaker 1: muff to punt, and then at twenty one and nothing,
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien decides to kick a field goal. He changes
Speaker 1: his mind, he goes to twenty four nothing. That seemed
Speaker 1: to change everything on that moment. Mccol haardman with a
Speaker 1: great kickoff return that led to the first Kansas City
Speaker 1: touchdown to seven. Then a fake punt that went to
Speaker 1: askance for the Chiefs ends up not converting short field fourteen,
Speaker 1: ensuing kickoff fumble. Next thing you know, it's one, and
Speaker 1: then by the end of the half, Chiefs win it
Speaker 1: going away. Michael, we start with you again. Kansas City
Speaker 1: favored by seven. Your thoughts are on the a f
Speaker 1: C Championship. Uh. You know, I think when you go
Speaker 1: back and watch the game in week ten and really
Speaker 1: break it down, you really have a hard time understanding
Speaker 1: how Tennessee won the game had the ball two minutes,
Speaker 1: Kansas City was seven for fourteen on third down. They
Speaker 1: can ask, can't they got Kansas City in a lot
Speaker 1: of third downs. They really never stopped Kansas City. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it took a lot of unusual events that occur. Uh.
Speaker 1: At the at the end of the game, with four
Speaker 1: minutes to go. They come down, they got a third
Speaker 1: and four that they don't convert. They kicked the field goal.
Speaker 1: Tennessee gets the ball back again. Uh, gets into a
Speaker 1: fourth and seventeen, can't convert that. Chiefs are in prime
Speaker 1: position to uh. And then all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: Homes instead of taking throwing, you know, laying down, takes
Speaker 1: a sack that moves the ball nine yards back. Bad snap.
Speaker 1: Now we get grounding because the the field goal kicker
Speaker 1: threw it out of bounds. And then Tennessee comes down.
Speaker 1: They leave twenty three seconds left on the clock, just
Speaker 1: enough time to try a fifty two yard that gets blocked.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you watch the game, you say to yourself,
Speaker 1: how is this game even close? They really never stopped
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they gained five hundred yards, but
Speaker 1: they never really stopped Kansas City. Uh. They made Kansas
Speaker 1: City punt one time in the game. UH. And really
Speaker 1: they could have done anything they wanted to Kansas City
Speaker 1: to to Tennessee the whole day. The thing that I
Speaker 1: get from the game most importantly, and I think this
Speaker 1: reflects to the Baltimore game last week. Even though Tennessee
Speaker 1: was down by nine in the in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: they never changed who they were. They kept doing what
Speaker 1: they did because they they're married to it. They can't
Speaker 1: run drop back passes, their offensive line can't pass protect,
Speaker 1: so they stay with their run, They stay with their
Speaker 1: play action. Tannehill made some plays with his feet and
Speaker 1: they got themselves the lead in the game, and their
Speaker 1: defense made just enough plays on third and two like
Speaker 1: they have in the playoffs to convert. Can they duplicate
Speaker 1: this as the question? And can they duplicate it to
Speaker 1: where they can? And I'm having a hard time seeing it.
Speaker 1: I know they're playing better than they did then, but
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are playing better as well. Chris Jones is
Speaker 1: on the field for this game, so we understand that.
Speaker 1: But I think the reality of this game is can
Speaker 1: they cover the Chiefs well enough and play good enough
Speaker 1: defense to keep this game where it won't get away
Speaker 1: from him? And That's where I'm in a hard time.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you lay the points? Is that true? Or
Speaker 1: am I saying too much? There? I I my again,
Speaker 1: It's Thursday. Chris Jones. If he doesn't play, and he
Speaker 1: didn't practice today, and there's a good chance he probably
Speaker 1: doesn't play, but he played in the last time. If
Speaker 1: he doesn't play, I'm definitely taken the Titans and the points.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll win, but I'm taking the Titans
Speaker 1: and the points. Mike Palm from Servius Sports. A couple
Speaker 1: other things about this past weekend. One Bill O'Brien, not
Speaker 1: only the change of mind on fourth and one, Hey,
Speaker 1: where he elects to go for a field well to
Speaker 1: make it twenty four to nothing. He didn't go. He
Speaker 1: didn't change his mind on that. Just still we're clear
Speaker 1: on this. I mean, he thought it was the first
Speaker 1: down they had. He thought it was the first down,
Speaker 1: so he was sending out the next play. He didn't
Speaker 1: change his mind. He was sending. He was sending he
Speaker 1: thought it was first intent, and so he sent out
Speaker 1: that group and then when he realized it was fourth down,
Speaker 1: he was going to take the points. And you certainly
Speaker 1: are entitled to criticized for taking the points. There's no
Speaker 1: doubt I'm not saying that, but I don't think he's.
Speaker 1: My point to you is he didn't change his mind.
Speaker 1: They basically let him think it was first down. I
Speaker 1: stand corrected on that. I'll tell you where he did
Speaker 1: change his mind, though, Texans were down seventeen with just
Speaker 1: over eleven minutes to play, and it looked like the
Speaker 1: Texans were going to punt the football and then changed
Speaker 1: his mind, so no doubt. Yeah, I mean that that
Speaker 1: was certainly a change in mind late in the game,
Speaker 1: and that was very O'Brien esque peculiar. At the end
Speaker 1: of that game, Mike palm your thoughts. Kansas City favored
Speaker 1: by seven total fifty three. Yeah, gil Um, I want
Speaker 1: to go back to the first game as well, please
Speaker 1: that my referenced in week ten. I mean, he's right,
Speaker 1: they never stopped Kansas City. They outgained him five thirty
Speaker 1: to three seventy one. In addition to all the high
Speaker 1: jinks in the last five minutes of that game. Let's
Speaker 1: not forget for Sea and Evans had a fifty three
Speaker 1: or bumble recovery returned for a touchdown that was one
Speaker 1: of Tennessee's scores. You know, Tanny Hell only threw the
Speaker 1: ball nineteen times in that game as well, not unlike
Speaker 1: what he uh they've asked him to do in the
Speaker 1: playoffs here. Um, I just don't think that Tennessee is
Speaker 1: going to be able to slow down Kansas City. I
Speaker 1: think the fact that Kansas City lost this game in
Speaker 1: Week ten, we'll get them out to a better start
Speaker 1: than they had against Houston. They'll be more focused. He
Speaker 1: can't lose another title game, Andy Reid, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to be tight at home because
Speaker 1: of the big comeback that they had last weekend against
Speaker 1: the Texans. I'm gonna I'm gonna lay the seven points
Speaker 1: here with Kansas City and feel pretty comfortable about it.
Speaker 1: Just a jog people's memory about that game. That was
Speaker 1: Week ten, Tennessee thirty five Kansas City thirty two. As
Speaker 1: the guys have alluded to, Tannehill throws a twenty three
Speaker 1: yard to Adam Humphries with twenty three seconds left. Joshua
Speaker 1: Kaloo blocked the last second field goal attempt UH fifty
Speaker 1: two yarder so to get that final score of thirty
Speaker 1: five thirty two. That was the game that Mahomes was
Speaker 1: coming off the knee injury. It was his first game
Speaker 1: back UH and the Titans only had a chance after
Speaker 1: a bad snap by the use on Harrison Butker's fifth
Speaker 1: field goal attempt of the day. Kansa City coach Andy
Speaker 1: Reid blamed the communication for the staff taking holder Dustin
Speaker 1: coll quit by surprise, you throw the ball away and
Speaker 1: desperation for intentional grounding. That set the Titans up at
Speaker 1: their own thirty nine and that's when they matriculated gil Gil.
Speaker 1: One one quick question. I just want to ask Mike
Speaker 1: palm this, who's an expert on officials. Do we realize
Speaker 1: that Coarenti officiated this game in Nashville the last time? Mike, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we realize it, and I want to I want to
Speaker 1: ask you this, does Tony PARENTI have pictures of River Rod,
Speaker 1: the Fidel's wife, and how is he getting this game again? Michael?
Speaker 1: He's embarrassing. Not only did not only was he horrible
Speaker 1: in the wild card game in Houston four weeks earlier
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football, there was confusion on every play
Speaker 1: with his crew when the Patriots were down there. I mean,
Speaker 1: he can't do it anymore. He was fired as a
Speaker 1: supervisor officials to the pack well six years ago. His
Speaker 1: career has deteriorated. He's not the officially was fIF seen
Speaker 1: years ago. I don't get it, Michael. You know I
Speaker 1: don't either, And I think when you really watched the
Speaker 1: tape of this game, he had a huge influence on
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Slow start. I mean, Kansas City turns the
Speaker 1: ball over early, uh, and it's seven nothing and they
Speaker 1: get all of a sudden, they got first and ten,
Speaker 1: they think they score, and there's just repeated. There's an
Speaker 1: offensive past interference call, there's a holding call. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why it was ten enohing early instead of being
Speaker 1: fourteen and nothing early. He actually, I mean he called
Speaker 1: seventeen penalties in this last game, so you know, and
Speaker 1: he's going to be. His influence is going to be
Speaker 1: in this game. And if you take the Titans and
Speaker 1: the points, prepare yourself for that. Todd. One last thing
Speaker 1: about the Chiefs last week, and I mentioned this with
Speaker 1: Michael on Tuesday when he was on a numbers game
Speaker 1: at Visa on Series x M two oh four. I
Speaker 1: mentioned it on Monday when I was doing the autopsy
Speaker 1: of this game. But there was that moment as Kansas City,
Speaker 1: and I had it in game on Kansas City when
Speaker 1: they were down fourteen nothing at minus one one. I
Speaker 1: did it again at minus one twenty. Didn't do it
Speaker 1: until it got to twenty four to seven after that, uh,
Speaker 1: and then it was plus one sixty seven. So I
Speaker 1: missed the best bang for your buck. But still I
Speaker 1: never had a doubt that Kansas City would win. But
Speaker 1: it's twenty four to twenty one. It's first and goal
Speaker 1: at the five with fifty eight seconds left in the
Speaker 1: first half. And at that point, if you're Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: the correct game theory thing to do right is to
Speaker 1: at least incorporate a run to bleed the clock so
Speaker 1: that if in fact, when Kansas City, if and when,
Speaker 1: and we can assume at least a field goal there,
Speaker 1: if and when Kansas City scores, Houston will have as
Speaker 1: little time as possible to operate with at the end
Speaker 1: of the first half. Instead, pass pass pass. They do
Speaker 1: get the touchdown to make it on the Mahomes to
Speaker 1: Kelsey touchdown, but only twenty seconds elapses and Houston does
Speaker 1: matriculate the ball down the field. They do get a
Speaker 1: field goal attempt, it doesn't go in, they don't convert it.
Speaker 1: But it's those little moments that do give me just
Speaker 1: a little pause about Andy Reid in these moments in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and I'm just curious of you thought the same.
Speaker 1: You know, of course you have to worry about Andy Reid.
Speaker 1: He's the genius schemer, but has had situational issues in
Speaker 1: the past, so you always have to think about that.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's going to be a factor
Speaker 1: this week. I think Kansas City is a much better
Speaker 1: team by the I don't know if you guys have
Speaker 1: noticed this, but the last seven games since that Tennessee game,
Speaker 1: Kansas City has not only won the game, but has
Speaker 1: covered the spread seven games in a row. In the
Speaker 1: National Football League. To cover the spread is really remarkable.
Speaker 1: I mean, we know how tight the NFL lines are,
Speaker 1: and to cover seven in a row, you know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen often. Let's put it that way. Now, if
Speaker 1: you remember, the previous game was the first game with
Speaker 1: Mahomes back after they had that Minnesota game where um
Speaker 1: Matt Moore was in and then of course Mahomes comes back.
Speaker 1: He was rusty, and even with the rust as you
Speaker 1: guys have all mentioned a million times here, in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, they're up by nine, really should be up
Speaker 1: six team because of the Tennessee one of the touchdowns
Speaker 1: was a fumble. It's to go in that game in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. This this there's no way Kansas City
Speaker 1: should lose this game. Now, they were at Tennessee, and
Speaker 1: some weird high jinks happened, and that's what happened. But
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen in Kansas City, I don't think.
Speaker 1: And I think it could be curtains for Tennessee. I
Speaker 1: would lean Kansas City. And usually we see in the
Speaker 1: championship games for points spread purposes, the favorites usually do
Speaker 1: very very well in the championship games, if I if
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, Can I just ask one one quick
Speaker 1: question to Mike because I've been dying to ask him
Speaker 1: this the whole time. Um, Mike, you know how teams
Speaker 1: have third down in fifteen packages and they throw the ball,
Speaker 1: you know, they bring in their dime package. They throw
Speaker 1: the ball underneath. The team gets twelve yards, it's fourth down.
Speaker 1: Everybody puts their hand up fourth down, and they punt
Speaker 1: the ball. Right. That's usually when when the other team
Speaker 1: is in their own side of the field. So of course,
Speaker 1: let's say you're at your own twenty, you throw a
Speaker 1: little twelve yard pass, you punt the ball. But when
Speaker 1: they're at the fifty yard line and it's third and fifteen,
Speaker 1: it seems to me they're in the same dime package
Speaker 1: and they a up a twelve yard passed to the
Speaker 1: thirty eight. They all get excited that it's fourth down.
Speaker 1: They put their fist up in the air, fourth down,
Speaker 1: and they don't realize, oh, well, the team's gonna go
Speaker 1: for it because now it's only fourth and three from
Speaker 1: the thirty five. Do teams have different packages for third
Speaker 1: and fifteen, whether they're the other teams at midfield versus
Speaker 1: whether the other teams all the way deep in their
Speaker 1: own end, Yeah, no doubt they do. I mean they have.
Speaker 1: You know, they have a line and usually you determine
Speaker 1: that line and pregame warm up when you watched the
Speaker 1: opposed field goal kicker, you know kick, and so the
Speaker 1: decause coordinator knows that. You know, if any time the
Speaker 1: ball is on the thirty eight or end, they can
Speaker 1: make this field goal. So you know, that's the point
Speaker 1: territory we have to do. The quarterback meets to know
Speaker 1: it too, because if he takes a sack at any
Speaker 1: point on the field at that that area, get they're
Speaker 1: losing points and if he gets outside there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much communicated and it's talked about. And look,
Speaker 1: sometimes you get people, you get him off guard and
Speaker 1: and they they do stupid things and guys break a tackle.
Speaker 1: We saw it, you know with Houston play Buffalo Heart
Speaker 1: Graves got a chance to make a tackle, get off
Speaker 1: the field. He can't do it. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, Houston's uh, you know, got
Speaker 1: the ball and they keep the drive a lot. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's it's linked to the field goal kicker,
Speaker 1: and that distance is always tied with what he can make.
Speaker 1: But aside from the field goal kicker, are they anticipating
Speaker 1: that the other team? Let's say it's even let's say
Speaker 1: you're at your own forty six, they get twelve yards
Speaker 1: there now there like the forty five, and now it's
Speaker 1: fourth and three and they're gonna go for it? Do
Speaker 1: they do they anticipate that the other team? They actually
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth? Now, well, you tell me
Speaker 1: who we're playing. If it's Doug Peterson, they definitely anticipated.
Speaker 1: If it's Pete Carroll, they may not. You know, I
Speaker 1: think a lot of that. That's where that's where analytics
Speaker 1: doesn't really help you. That's what I wrote the column
Speaker 1: in the Athletic. It's it's all situational, right, you know,
Speaker 1: if it's Peterson he's no, he's going for it. If
Speaker 1: it's the Baltimore Ravens, you've got to play four down
Speaker 1: defense at every part of the field. If you're playing
Speaker 1: somebody who's a little bit more conservative, you know, then
Speaker 1: you know you don't have to and so it all
Speaker 1: it's all predicated on who you're playing, interesting and that
Speaker 1: third down call. So we're clear that third down call
Speaker 1: should be reflective of that. You know, the thing you
Speaker 1: don't want to do on third and fifteen is get
Speaker 1: called for defensive holding. That's the last thing you want
Speaker 1: to do, you know, who don't want to be grabbing
Speaker 1: somebody and pulling somebody, so you want to play a
Speaker 1: little bit more zone and you don't want to be
Speaker 1: able to you know, you don't want to get too
Speaker 1: much hand grabbing all that. So that's why there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of man coverage on those third and longs
Speaker 1: because nobody wants to get caught poolling and targeting. NFC
Speaker 1: Championship follows the a f C Championship on Sunday, kick
Speaker 1: off three forty pm Pacific, six forty pm Eastern at
Speaker 1: Santa Clara. Niners seven and a half point favorites over
Speaker 1: the Packers total is at let's call it forty six consensus,
Speaker 1: though I do see a forty six and a half
Speaker 1: at CIRCA. I see a forty five and a half
Speaker 1: at CG In Las Vegas. Niners get here by virtue
Speaker 1: of their twenty seven to ten win over the Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings this past Saturday. They were seven point favorites. Was
Speaker 1: nip and tuck there in the first half, and I
Speaker 1: got the feeling, and I think Kyle Shanahan felt the
Speaker 1: same way based on what happened there after, that the
Speaker 1: Niners could really name their score if Jimmy Garoppolo just
Speaker 1: didn't really mess it up for them with the turnover,
Speaker 1: and we saw a subsequent drive in the second half
Speaker 1: where the Niners did nothing but run all the way
Speaker 1: down the field into the end zone. It really was
Speaker 1: all Niners in the second half and really wanted going
Speaker 1: away after a nip and tuck first half. So the
Speaker 1: Niners get the home field they of course first seed
Speaker 1: in the NFC playoffs. My NFC futures on the Niners
Speaker 1: still alive from before the playoffs began about plus one
Speaker 1: thirteen and plus one twenty three. UM. Then there's the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. The Packers got here by virtue of
Speaker 1: the twenty three win over the Seahawks as four and
Speaker 1: a half point closing favorites on Sunday. That game, as Michael,
Speaker 1: you and I discussed on Tuesday on a Numbers game,
Speaker 1: is typical of every Seahawks game seemingly all year long,
Speaker 1: which is it's a one score game, and the Hawks,
Speaker 1: by the way, end up finishing the season eleven and
Speaker 1: three and one score games, this being a three if
Speaker 1: you include the playoffs, this being the third. But the
Speaker 1: Seahawks fall behind and then it's as if Pete Carroll says, well,
Speaker 1: Russell go get us out of this hole, and Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson does Russell Wilson things. But it was too short
Speaker 1: in the end, and green Bay holds on based on
Speaker 1: two huge third down conversions by Aaron Rodgers after Seattle
Speaker 1: elected to punt with just over two minutes left, with
Speaker 1: all three of their time outs in pocket. Michael Lombardi,
Speaker 1: we will start with you, as there's only two games
Speaker 1: we go around the Horn San Francisco seven and a
Speaker 1: half point favorites total forty six. What do you think here? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean the last time they played it really wasn't
Speaker 1: a close game. And then the Packers were one for
Speaker 1: fifteen on third down. They had the ball thirty five minutes,
Speaker 1: which to me is a complete remarkable analysis of how
Speaker 1: do you keep the ball for thirty five minutes? Yet
Speaker 1: the one for fifteen on third down and you have
Speaker 1: less than two yards somewhat remarkable, right, I mean, and
Speaker 1: you know they did a good job of holding the
Speaker 1: forty Niners are only two for four in the red zone,
Speaker 1: and and and they scored thirty five points. So I mean,
Speaker 1: this is kind of a weird game. Obviously. I think
Speaker 1: it was one of those games that you know, the
Speaker 1: scores probably indicative of how badly the Packers played and
Speaker 1: how dominant it was. And again, like all forty nin games,
Speaker 1: I think this is a game that's gonna come down
Speaker 1: to the ability the forty Niners front to dominate and
Speaker 1: pressure Aaron Rodgers from the inside against the guards Jenkins
Speaker 1: and against Billy Turner. You have to be able to
Speaker 1: pressure Rogers inside, and they've got to take Davante Adams out.
Speaker 1: I think the limitations within the Packer offense if they
Speaker 1: can't run the football greatly favors the forty Niners, and
Speaker 1: I think this is a game between Kyle Shanahan and
Speaker 1: Mike Petton. Guys know each other really well. We're on
Speaker 1: the staff before was on the staff. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: so much familiarity to what everybody does here. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with Kyle, and I'm gonna lay the points here
Speaker 1: at that point about Davante Adams to me is everything
Speaker 1: like he was the offense for the Packers in it,
Speaker 1: which just seemed to me that the Niners would try
Speaker 1: to He came out of that wide receivers. No one
Speaker 1: else had more than one reception against the Seahawks, by
Speaker 1: the way, that game that you're referring to, of course
Speaker 1: between the Niners and the Packers earlier this season, thirty
Speaker 1: seven to eight in favor of thirty seven nothing Gil.
Speaker 1: If you remember there was a phantom call in the
Speaker 1: end zone at the end of the first half on
Speaker 1: the third right, Do you remember when when Rogers they
Speaker 1: called two penalties on Richard Sherman, I believe in the
Speaker 1: end zone where they didn't even show the replay because
Speaker 1: it was such a bull crap call and and and
Speaker 1: they gave them the touchdown because they you know who
Speaker 1: knows why they gave him the touchdown, but that game
Speaker 1: should have been thirty seven nothing if or thirty seven
Speaker 1: three at worst. Yeah, we talked about that the next day,
Speaker 1: how there was no replay that we even got to see.
Speaker 1: But thirty seven to eight was the final. It was
Speaker 1: Week twelve. It was a prime time game. Rogers through
Speaker 1: for one hundred and four yards. He was sacked five times,
Speaker 1: as Michael said, less than two hundred yards of total offense.
Speaker 1: It was on Green Bay, as Michael said, one of
Speaker 1: fifteen on third downs. There was not a game in
Speaker 1: the NFL this year that had a worst third down
Speaker 1: statistic than that. Now that's a double edged sword, right,
Speaker 1: because you can say, if you're a Packer backer in this,
Speaker 1: you could say, well, they can't be that bad again.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, if you choose to view that
Speaker 1: as reflective of what's gonna happen here moving forward, as
Speaker 1: a different story, George Kittle, by the way, doing Kittle
Speaker 1: things in that game. Six and a touchdown, Mikey was
Speaker 1: when the Packers finally stored, they went right to Kittle
Speaker 1: and they had big play and answer them, and that
Speaker 1: was really the game. Um I agree with Michael I
Speaker 1: think that you know in this in this game the
Speaker 1: Packers won in the divisional round, there was no pass
Speaker 1: rush from Seattle. They're gonna have to face a team
Speaker 1: that's gonna put pressure on them almost every down. And
Speaker 1: I simply don't think, and I said this early in
Speaker 1: the year that this Packers defense is very good. I
Speaker 1: think that San Francisco will do just about whatever they
Speaker 1: want to do here. Outside of it, Profolo has a
Speaker 1: horrible game. Now, is that possible. It's possible, but I
Speaker 1: don't think it's very like Lee. I like San Francisco
Speaker 1: a lot. In this spot, Gil and I'll lay the
Speaker 1: points here, and I want to ask Michael a question
Speaker 1: related to the gaming Green Bay last week, and Michael
Speaker 1: that that face mask that really wasn't a face mask
Speaker 1: against Clowney Um where they eventually got together and you
Speaker 1: always say when official three or more officials get together,
Speaker 1: they're talking about what they didn't see, and then they
Speaker 1: came up with he grabbed the opening, Well he didn't.
Speaker 1: He pulled them down from the back outside of the helmet.
Speaker 1: Uncle here's my question, Michael. Uncle Brent said on the
Speaker 1: show this week, what they ought to do is get
Speaker 1: rid of reviewing pass interference calls and be able to
Speaker 1: review face mask calls. Do you agree with that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, face mask calls are easy to review.
Speaker 1: It's either did or didn't. It's like you know, uh,
Speaker 1: we we got to be able to see it. And
Speaker 1: sometimes they react to what they think they see and
Speaker 1: usually that's wrong. As I've said many times, when they
Speaker 1: react to something, you know, it's usually wrong. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm and I wish we could do that. I wish
Speaker 1: we could speed it up so that they could do
Speaker 1: it and handle it easier. By the way, weather for
Speaker 1: these games in San Francisco sunny and fifty seven degree
Speaker 1: high and Santa Clara on Sunday, and the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs game much like the Packers game last week, no precipitation,
Speaker 1: zero percent chance. Twenty two degrees will feel like it's
Speaker 1: fourteen degrees, but could be much worse for all intensive
Speaker 1: purposes this time of year. So no inclement weather anyway,
Speaker 1: just cold in Kansas City. Todd, your thoughts here, I
Speaker 1: think you have to look at San Francisco and um
Speaker 1: possibly also the under forty six. And I know they're
Speaker 1: betting it up a little bit, but you know, I
Speaker 1: noticed something about the Niners. You had a little bit
Speaker 1: of jittery Jimmy there last week where he threw one
Speaker 1: pick and he threw a couple of other balls that
Speaker 1: you know, he's probably the luckiest quarterback of all time.
Speaker 1: He gets more balls that should be picked and the
Speaker 1: defense drops him. You know those expected uh interception ratio.
Speaker 1: He has a hell of a babbit and they're lucky
Speaker 1: he has a left up on those. But it noted.
Speaker 1: I noticed in the second half, as I'm sure you
Speaker 1: guys did that. They didn't throw the ball at all.
Speaker 1: They just said, we're willing to get six yard chunks.
Speaker 1: We'll just keep getting six yard chunks and we'll win
Speaker 1: this game easily because we know Kirk Cousins can't do
Speaker 1: anything and he's under siege every time he drops back
Speaker 1: to the past. So I think that green Bay got
Speaker 1: really earned three points in the last game. I mean
Speaker 1: his green Bay's offense really told us that it's the
Speaker 1: usual and Aaron Rodgers tremendous green Bay offense, it doesn't
Speaker 1: look like that the last couple of weeks, or even
Speaker 1: all season for that matter. So I don't see green
Speaker 1: Bay scoring a lot of points here. And if San
Speaker 1: Francisco gets a lead, I have a feeling Mr Shanahan's
Speaker 1: gonna go right back to handing the ball off, taking
Speaker 1: five yards and punting the ball. We could see a
Speaker 1: scoreless fourth quarter here, and it could be, you know,
Speaker 1: thirty to seven going to the fourth quarter and it
Speaker 1: stays under because they're just willing to run the ball
Speaker 1: the whole rest of the game. So I would certainly
Speaker 1: be careful if it's a Niner Niners are up big
Speaker 1: in the second half, you might want to definitely be
Speaker 1: looking at under, and I would lean to the under,
Speaker 1: and I also lean to San Francisco. Garoppolo was eleven
Speaker 1: of nineteen in the game last week against Minnesota, only
Speaker 1: eleven completed passes, one thirty one yards, one touchdown, one
Speaker 1: pick was Zack twice. But you know, you don't need
Speaker 1: to like we see with Ryan Tannehill, you don't need
Speaker 1: to win football games, you know, by conventional ways or
Speaker 1: what what people would deem conventional, when you've got other
Speaker 1: strengths in your in your football team. They held the
Speaker 1: ball for thirty eight minutes and twenty seven seconds did
Speaker 1: the Niners against the Vikings. They held the Vikings to
Speaker 1: two of twelve on third down, held the Vikings to
Speaker 1: one forty seven total yards only twenty one on the ground.
Speaker 1: Uh Niners defense flies around. So as far as yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead talk, I just wanted to ask Mike one
Speaker 1: other thing. You know, I really love the segments you
Speaker 1: you do on a Numbers game with Bill on Tuesday's
Speaker 1: Mike and You you talked about missed field goals a
Speaker 1: lot being a major problem for the other team. Um,
Speaker 1: and when you said that miss field goals score you know,
Speaker 1: very high ratio. Is that just because the field position
Speaker 1: is so good for the offense. So, for instance, if
Speaker 1: a team misses a forty seven yard field goal, the
Speaker 1: other team gets it at the thirty seven yard line,
Speaker 1: they're only sixty three yards away from a touchdown. Does
Speaker 1: that are you saying that after a missed field goal
Speaker 1: it's the reason they're scoring so much is because they're
Speaker 1: getting that great field position. Or is it something that
Speaker 1: you know momentum meaning any other drive that started at
Speaker 1: the thirty seven wouldn't score as much as a missed
Speaker 1: field goal drive starting at the thirty seven? Are you
Speaker 1: just saying it? Definitely, you go ahead. I definitely think
Speaker 1: momentum carries onto it. But I also think it's that
Speaker 1: it's what it's a turnover and the team celebrates it
Speaker 1: like a turnover, and then the offense can get going
Speaker 1: a little bit. And I think when you look at
Speaker 1: the teams, you know that that like for example, when
Speaker 1: we take you know, Kansas City this week, going into
Speaker 1: the game, they rank in the league and their opponent's
Speaker 1: miss field goals, you know, so, and then when you
Speaker 1: look at Tennessee Tennessee, so even though their ninth, Tennessee's
Speaker 1: ninth to turnovers there it's three and miss field goals,
Speaker 1: so that kind of balances it out. And Kansas City
Speaker 1: seventh and turnovers, but their opponents are twenty five, so
Speaker 1: they don't really net at a huge advantage. San Francisco's
Speaker 1: fourth and thirteen in terms of few turnovers, fourth missfield
Speaker 1: goals they rank thirteen, and then Green Bay when you
Speaker 1: look at what they are their third and tenth. So
Speaker 1: both teams really are kind of similar in the field
Speaker 1: goal field. But last time they played Kansas City, you know,
Speaker 1: they both both teams missed extra points, Both team missed
Speaker 1: extra points, both teams miss field goals, and ultimately the
Speaker 1: special teams of Kansas City. When you watch that tape,
Speaker 1: I mean, you can watch it a thousand times and
Speaker 1: you're gonna ask yourself the question, how did we lose
Speaker 1: that game? I think that's a great point about the
Speaker 1: missfield goals though, the way that you couched it there
Speaker 1: at the end, Michael of You know, it's not something
Speaker 1: that broadcasters talk about in the in game play by
Speaker 1: play broadcast. Is not something that is discussed on pregame shows,
Speaker 1: conventional pregame shows on network TV. But what you were
Speaker 1: describing sort of the basketball equivalent. This is kind of
Speaker 1: a dirty analogy, but Aaron Shots and I used to
Speaker 1: joke about free throw defense right where we don't ever
Speaker 1: talk about how fortunate or unfortunate teams get on just
Speaker 1: the conversion rate of the opposing team on free throws.
Speaker 1: We don't process that. Our brain doesn't process that. And
Speaker 1: it does mitigate what you're saying on on the field
Speaker 1: goals of the opposing teams. It does mitigate the turnover
Speaker 1: stat to some degree. Well, yes they're doing well on turnovers,
Speaker 1: but they haven't really gotten the best of it, say
Speaker 1: on this particular thing where teams actually do convert field
Speaker 1: goals all the time, against them, so they haven't had
Speaker 1: as many opportunities. Just one of the things that I'm
Speaker 1: assuming you talk about on the Lamarty line every Saturday
Speaker 1: and Sunday, that that's great stuff that you don't hear
Speaker 1: typically don't think it matters. It matters tremendously because you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a net effect of how many times you're
Speaker 1: really gaining the football, and if you don't count missfield
Speaker 1: goals into the turnover ratio, it can be really deceiving.
Speaker 1: I mean, Dallas this year, for example, was the number
Speaker 1: one team and the opponent's missing fiel goals, you know,
Speaker 1: and that they were only eighteenth of turnovers, you know,
Speaker 1: and so they had a lot of extra chances. Whereas Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: you know, they weren't great at field goal kicking, they
Speaker 1: weren't great at creating turnovers, and they got thirty two
Speaker 1: second Football League in the schiel goals by their opponents. Yea,
Speaker 1: and Dallas two seasons ago was tremendous in one score
Speaker 1: games and not so much it regressed as you might
Speaker 1: predict this year. So maybe Dallas, in through a couple
Speaker 1: of different lenses, wasn't nearly as good as many thought
Speaker 1: they were. Different times of this season. You know how
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of handicappers on season win
Speaker 1: totals will look at what the turnover ratio was the
Speaker 1: year before and see, and that's kind of what you're
Speaker 1: talking about, right there, is the fortunateness of the team.
Speaker 1: So if a team was like plus twenty in turnovers,
Speaker 1: they're really not that good of a team. And now
Speaker 1: here's a hidden turnover stat that Mike Lombardi is talking
Speaker 1: about that we really should be looking at if we're
Speaker 1: going to be doing that same analysis next year, saying, hey,
Speaker 1: a team was plus twenty and turnovers, but hey they
Speaker 1: also got you know, the Cowboys also got all these
Speaker 1: miss field goals too. They're really not that good. But Mike,
Speaker 1: if I understand you correctly, you're basically saying, if the
Speaker 1: team misses a field goal and now they're starting the
Speaker 1: other team starts at the thirty seven, they're gonna do
Speaker 1: better on that drive than if they were just to
Speaker 1: get a kickoff return to the thirty seven, get a
Speaker 1: punt return to the thirty seven, you know, And that's it.
Speaker 1: Like Baltimore, for example, here's a perfect example. Baltimore is
Speaker 1: sixth in the national Football League in turnovers, they are
Speaker 1: fifth in miss field goals by their opponents. That's significant, right,
Speaker 1: They're getting extra possessions every time they turn around. They're
Speaker 1: never losing possessions. And my brain would say todd that regardless,
Speaker 1: if you want to debate momentum or not, missed field
Speaker 1: goals generally speaking will give you field position that much
Speaker 1: closer to the opposing end zone, right because you spot
Speaker 1: it right where the kicker misses it, not at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. So it's really shorter fields more often
Speaker 1: than not. And in a LYTCS you know, you know what,
Speaker 1: every down and distance from the opposing goal line, there
Speaker 1: is an expected point value. So if you really wanted
Speaker 1: to get wonky and nerdy with it, that's really what's
Speaker 1: at the root of it in my opinion. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it would be interested. It would be interesting to do
Speaker 1: to do a comparison and teams starting at the thirty
Speaker 1: five at their own thirty five after a missfield goal
Speaker 1: versus team starting at a thirty five for any other
Speaker 1: reason and see how if there was actually a momentum
Speaker 1: factor to a missfield will be interesting. It would, But
Speaker 1: Isaac did that the guy who won the circle he
Speaker 1: computed all this, Isaac did all this. This is what
Speaker 1: Isaac was doing with his database. I mean he was
Speaker 1: He's ahead of everybody, and that's why he was so
Speaker 1: good at being able to handicap games, and that's why
Speaker 1: he won the circuit contest. I mean, he took he
Speaker 1: would send me his his breakdown every week, and it
Speaker 1: was all based on the things we talked about. The
Speaker 1: who's good and who's good in the eight minute? Who's good,
Speaker 1: who's good in uh the middle eight? I mean I
Speaker 1: love I love now how Chris Fowler calls it the
Speaker 1: middle eight of that every time, like Lamarty never quotes it,
Speaker 1: you know, never quotes it. And then he starts that.
Speaker 1: I heard him start talking about four point place too.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I think that's really the number. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the corner of the the game, right, and the
Speaker 1: people that are handicapped in these games, the best understand
Speaker 1: what really matters in the game. And I think the
Speaker 1: Tennessee team is a complete, uh it's a complete dossier
Speaker 1: of what really matters in the game. And everybody's focused
Speaker 1: on Henry, but no one talks about how good they
Speaker 1: have been in short yardage defense. Third, Patriots of the
Speaker 1: ball first and go with the one they don't get
Speaker 1: in Baltimore is the best fourth down team in football.
Speaker 1: Ten for ten can't get on fourth then one twice.
Speaker 1: Both times those points turned they turned into touchdowns both times.
Speaker 1: The things that matter if you study that alleged to
Speaker 1: what the teams are really good. These other numbers, I
Speaker 1: don't know the eight ratings are all that. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure they have all this stuff in it. This
Speaker 1: is the stuff that matters and football, well, this is
Speaker 1: this is the stuff that baseball has figured out through
Speaker 1: analytics for decades now. It's all in the public domain.
Speaker 1: But we just don't quite have the same true reflection
Speaker 1: of skill set thing in football. And this is sort
Speaker 1: of a dabbling in it. Um Todd, my question would
Speaker 1: be white in Isaac, because I thought, you, that's your buddy.
Speaker 1: Why didn't he send you that stuff? I guess I'm not,
Speaker 1: you know, important enough. Apparently not Jesus, that's your buddy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying I'm important. I just I
Speaker 1: think what what he was, you know, Like, I think
Speaker 1: he read the book. I think he's smart, and he
Speaker 1: took a lot of the things from the book from
Speaker 1: reading Coach Wallace reading my book, and I think he
Speaker 1: put it into a formula and he came out with
Speaker 1: his power rankings. Because remember this is no different than scouting.
Speaker 1: We're trying to eliminate games. This is why picking playoff
Speaker 1: games are hard, because you can't eliminate any game, right,
Speaker 1: you know, the every week you need to eliminate games.
Speaker 1: You know, not fine teams. You like, You've got to
Speaker 1: eliminate games, and you have to have a disciplined way
Speaker 1: to do it. If you don't eliminate, you're really you know,
Speaker 1: I tell people's story all the time. When when when
Speaker 1: Tom Porkmand was driving over down the road in Oklahoma
Speaker 1: and he went right to, uh find Mickey Mantle that
Speaker 1: you know that that's that's lucky, that's hitting the lottery.
Speaker 1: Whereas you know he you in scouting, you have to
Speaker 1: eliminate people. You gotta eliminate players, not find them. Maybe
Speaker 1: we'll get Isaac on for the Super Bowl prop show.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get him on. He felt so. By the way, still,
Speaker 1: it's not like I know the guy that well, he
Speaker 1: just came up to me, but just Josh and I
Speaker 1: was kidding. By the way, he is By the way,
Speaker 1: he is a bright guy. If you talk to him
Speaker 1: for like fifteen minutes, because he's in financial stuff and
Speaker 1: I used to be in financial stuff, and so we
Speaker 1: talked about that, you can tell right away that he
Speaker 1: this guy is a bright kid. Yeah. I spoke with
Speaker 1: him for about ten minutes. I enjoyed him very much.
Speaker 1: I could tell very quickly he was a smart kid
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Speaker 1: betting this, gentleman, because we're not gonna do our final
Speaker 1: two questions because obviously there's only two games. But I'll
Speaker 1: just like to throw out for people. Here's how I'm
Speaker 1: betting it. One, I have Niners futures in pocket to
Speaker 1: win the NFC. So because I have those, it does
Speaker 1: change the way I'm betting it. I will bet Green
Speaker 1: Bay plus the points and try to hit both bets. Um,
Speaker 1: that's how we'll do it. I'm not going to I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna You know, I could just like,
Speaker 1: I could just sit on my San Francisco futures, but
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of points also, so I
Speaker 1: think I'll do that. If I didn't have those NFC futures,
Speaker 1: I would probably just do one teaser, and for me,
Speaker 1: it would probably be teasing San Francisco down. And I
Speaker 1: know this goes against what most of you guys are saying,
Speaker 1: but I'd probably tease Tennessee upwards to thirteen, thirteen and
Speaker 1: a half whatever I could get it at based on
Speaker 1: the number. So if it got to eight, for instance,
Speaker 1: I would absolutely tease Tennessee. I'm curious what if any
Speaker 1: that's any of you gentlemen will have Mike palm, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? You know, I'm gonna tease both favorites
Speaker 1: down um essentially to a pick uh and the teaser,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna play the under in the San
Speaker 1: Francisco game that Todd alluded to as well, I think that, uh,
Speaker 1: I just don't know that Rogers is going to be
Speaker 1: able to put up that many points with the pressure
Speaker 1: that the forty are going to be able to get
Speaker 1: on him. And I know one for fifteen is probably
Speaker 1: an aberration, but I don't see if San Francisco is
Speaker 1: gonna be able to put the that that the Green
Speaker 1: Bay is gonna be able to put the all in
Speaker 1: the end zone against this defense. I think it's a
Speaker 1: little high that total I would make this total quoture
Speaker 1: to forty two forty two and a half. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm with you, And that's why I'm not like a
Speaker 1: sure I'll bet Green Bay plus the points and try
Speaker 1: and both of them. I may just sit, may just
Speaker 1: stand pat on my niners futures. I really haven't completely
Speaker 1: made up my mind there, Todd, what are you betting?
Speaker 1: How are you betting? Before? Before I say that, Mike,
Speaker 1: you might also want to look at instead of teasing
Speaker 1: them down, you might want to look at the money
Speaker 1: line parlay and see if it's better than the teaser odds.
Speaker 1: You know, Yes, I will do that. I will do that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait to see where these numbers go. I
Speaker 1: think we'll be set on seven uh with Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I think that maybe the Cream Bay will come down
Speaker 1: to seven two in the money line will go down
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, um, I would think what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be leaning to the under. As I mentioned before, I
Speaker 1: think there's a decent chance that San Francisco could be
Speaker 1: ahead by you know, a decent amount late and want
Speaker 1: to just run the ball out like they did against
Speaker 1: Minnesota last week. So I'll probably be leaning to the
Speaker 1: under there. And I may take a shot with Kansas
Speaker 1: City here because I just think Kansas City is much
Speaker 1: better and this could get out of hand, so I'll
Speaker 1: probably be leaning on that. Of course, there's always a
Speaker 1: chance I'll just be in gaming like usual. Yeah. By
Speaker 1: the way, the money line parlay at this juncture would
Speaker 1: not be a more favorable bed. Well, would depend on
Speaker 1: how many point teaser it is, right, Yeah, but what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is for that you would be laying minus
Speaker 1: Let's say it's minus one twenty on a six point teaser.
Speaker 1: You're laying more than that right now. If you do
Speaker 1: the money, it's about minus It's about minus one a
Speaker 1: little over minus one thirty for the money line party. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Michael Lamarty, I don't generally ask you this, but if
Speaker 1: you were a betting man, what would you bet here?
Speaker 1: You know? I mean if I were a betting man,
Speaker 1: I think I thought Kansas City was a super Bowl
Speaker 1: team starting with a trip to Mexico City and have
Speaker 1: played like one. Uh. I agree that, you know, they
Speaker 1: they're tough there. Tennessee has had this unbelievable thing. But
Speaker 1: when I watched that game, I can't believe that Tennessee
Speaker 1: can really do anything more than what they did, you know,
Speaker 1: and I thought they were fortunate. My instincts would tell
Speaker 1: me to bet Kansas City, but without Chris Jones. I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit nervous about that because the one thing
Speaker 1: about Tennessee is there, even if they're down early, they're
Speaker 1: not going to change you. They are They're gonna throw it,
Speaker 1: They're gonna run it with this big guy, and he's
Speaker 1: hard to tackle, and it's gonna be a problem. So
Speaker 1: you know, if my if I did anything, I think
Speaker 1: San Francisco, I think Green Bay. The pressure is gonna
Speaker 1: get to Aaron Rodgers. It may not happen in the
Speaker 1: first quarter, but it's gonna happen through the game. And
Speaker 1: when they take Atoms out of the game, then what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen? And I think the Niners are just too good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Michael means the physical pressure, not the uh, the mental pressure.
Speaker 1: We're talking about Aaron Rodgers, right, Um. And then the
Speaker 1: final thing would be it sounds like everybody here. I mean,
Speaker 1: I still like Tennessee a little bit bet Tennessee, but
Speaker 1: I think Kansas City gets there. It sounds like everybody
Speaker 1: thinks it's in San Francisco Kansas City super Bowl? Is
Speaker 1: that also the matchup you want to see? San Francisco
Speaker 1: Kansas City? Michael Lombardi you know, I think that would
Speaker 1: that would be the best matchup because you know, a
Speaker 1: great defensive line against the great quarterback, a great running game.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's got all the elements of a great
Speaker 1: super Bowl. So who wouldn't want that, right? I think
Speaker 1: that's what I'd like to see, As we know in sports,
Speaker 1: what we want and what we get are two different things.
Speaker 1: If TenneT can keep winning playing me seventy two Dolphins
Speaker 1: style of football, god bless them. Here's the thing I
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind seeing Tennessee in They've been very good to
Speaker 1: me during the playoffs. I absolutely don't want to see
Speaker 1: Green Bay in there because I just think they they
Speaker 1: are a paper tiger at fourteen and three. With apologies
Speaker 1: to Green Bay fans, I just don't think they're that
Speaker 1: good of a football team. Mike and Todd, same thing.
Speaker 1: You want to see San Francisco Kansas City as well?
Speaker 1: I do. For sure. You could have a full prop
Speaker 1: sheet just on the matchup for the two tight ends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so true, Todd say, I would agree. I mean, of course,
Speaker 1: if it's if it's a football game, I will be
Speaker 1: betting it, regardless of who's playing, whether it's incarnate word
Speaker 1: going up against Kyle Baptist. I'll be interested in watching
Speaker 1: it and in gaming it. You love incarnate word. Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: Thank you, We've done all we can do. Mikey Palm,
Speaker 1: Todd Wishnev thank you as always. We'll talk to you
Speaker 1: for the Vegas Lifestyle Show next week. So do your
Speaker 1: do your lists on restaurants in Vegas and whatever else
Speaker 1: it is that you find entertaining in Las Vegas. We
Speaker 1: can go in all kinds of tentacles, so do that.
Speaker 1: We'll do that next week. And Michael Lombardi host the
Speaker 1: Lombardi Line at Visa, also writes for The Athletic of course.
Speaker 1: The podcast is UH the GM Shuffle with ad Nan
Speaker 1: Verk and Gridiron Genius is the book. Michael, Thank you
Speaker 1: as always, and I'll talk to you on Tuesday on
Speaker 1: the Numbers Game. Thank you, thank you, Michael, Thank you all.
Speaker 1: Good luck with all your bets this weekend. Championship week
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Thank you so much for listening.