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Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray.

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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know

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Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as always as

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Speaker 1: Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Yes, you can call me Montezuma. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Chuck's been a tad under the weather. Yes, he's been

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Speaker 1: out green kool aid. Right, Yeah, it's been awful. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: As most of you may know, we got back from

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Speaker 1: our Guatemala trip and uh, apparently Montezuma's revenge can strike

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Speaker 1: after you return. Yeah, because right when you got back

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Speaker 1: in the airport. When I got back, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it didn't get sick and then boom

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Speaker 1: the next day. Yeah, I was pretty vigilant about maintaining

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Speaker 1: a water tight seal in my mouth when I was showering. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and being like a fat smoker, that's more difficult. And

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Speaker 1: you'd think when you're washing your face or here. Um.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that last night out that you

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Speaker 1: declined to go on drinking rum on the rocks and

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Speaker 1: that it was the ice in the bar. Dude, do

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Speaker 1: you drink ice? I did. There's your problem, buddy. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was fun. That was worth it. I'd do it again.

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Speaker 1: Jerry had the ice as well, and she's fine. Yeah, alright, okay,

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Speaker 1: moving on. I'm just gonna come out and say it.

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Speaker 1: My friend Mitch had scabies. I was gonna ask you

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Speaker 1: why you picked this, and it knew there was some reason,

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Speaker 1: and I was just praying that it wasn't you, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't me. No, okay no. But after reading this, it

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Speaker 1: turns out that the deep, deep shame that Mitch displays

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Speaker 1: whenever he talks about the scabies uh is is maybe

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Speaker 1: a bit misplaced. Yeah, it is not necessarily because he

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Speaker 1: uh is gross and has poor hygiene or or promiscuous.

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Speaker 1: Promiscuous he maybe those things. I don't know. No, he's not.

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Speaker 1: But it has nothing to do with scabies, right, which

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Speaker 1: sounds gross. They should change the name if they want

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Speaker 1: to get out of that realm of grossness, they should

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Speaker 1: not call it scaby. Well, they would have to change

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Speaker 1: the name of the mt that creates the problem of scabies,

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Speaker 1: the sarcoptis scabi. Yeah, that's where it comes from. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's such a cool name that they're never

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Speaker 1: going to change scabies. They may call it like um

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Speaker 1: sex rash, right right, or dirty rash. They could call

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Speaker 1: it one of those, but they'll probably stick with scabies instead. Right. So,

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Speaker 1: my dirty dirty friend Mitch, Um, it turns out wasn't

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Speaker 1: so dirty, and he's one of about three hundred million

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Speaker 1: people annually who come down with scabies worldwide. Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: lot more people than you would think. Yeah, because no

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Speaker 1: one talks about it for reasons that we mentioned, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of times equated with lice

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Speaker 1: um and really, uh, when you catch scabies, you can

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Speaker 1: be a very clean person because the might the sarcoptis scab.

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Speaker 1: I Uh. What happens is the female burrows down into

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Speaker 1: the skin and once she's down there, no soaper, water

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Speaker 1: is gonna do anything. Yeah, you can do your what

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Speaker 1: do you call it, the steel wool shower, soap and water,

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Speaker 1: you can. You can do that till the cows come home,

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Speaker 1: and you're still gonna have the females under your skin

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Speaker 1: laying eggs and that's your scabies outbreak, buddy boom. So,

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Speaker 1: the reason why scabies are so successful and infesting human

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Speaker 1: beings is because once a female scaby enters your skin

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Speaker 1: and digs down. And by the way, I strongly recommend

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Speaker 1: going on the site to read this article, if not

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Speaker 1: for the first image alone. Yeah, the little model of

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Speaker 1: the scab, big, full color grossness. So the female scaby

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Speaker 1: burrows into your skin, uh and begins to lay eggs

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Speaker 1: and um, the eggs actually mature, they reach sexual maturity

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Speaker 1: within like fourteen days, and so they start doing the

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Speaker 1: same thing. So all it takes is one female scabies

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Speaker 1: get in trouble because not only can it really be

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Speaker 1: manifesting itself in your own skin, but you can be

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Speaker 1: spreading it to your family, anyone that's in contact with

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Speaker 1: you sexual partners obviously, right, Yeah, because it takes prolonged

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Speaker 1: Another one is, if you like bart, Let's say, I

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Speaker 1: all your socks are fancy, my sock Ninja socks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: sock Ninja socks. You wouldn't have to borrow that because

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Speaker 1: the very magnanimous owner of sock Ninja sent us both

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Speaker 1: some socks. Sney, that's right. But if we were to

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Speaker 1: up your scabies sure and be itching like crazy. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you're burrowed under somebody's skin, that's where you're gonna poop. Yep.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you have an allergic reaction to that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And that's the biggest um symptom that you're gonna know

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have like kind of a pimplee like reddish

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Speaker 1: bump area that forms like a larger rash. But each

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Speaker 1: average adolescent who has scabies has about eleven and they

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Speaker 1: could be mistaken for other things like mosquito bites. That's

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Speaker 1: why they're misdiagnosed sometimes too. You know what the dead

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Speaker 1: that actually is represents the burrow that the female might

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Speaker 1: has dug into you. The one real to giveaway is

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Speaker 1: that your itching gets worse at night. Yes, scabies are photophobic.

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Speaker 1: rash that it's just like crazy. But really it's is

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Speaker 1: at night. My friends, you have scabies, yes, and if

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Speaker 1: it's on your wrist, we should talk about where you

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Speaker 1: can get it anywhere on your body, but for adults

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Speaker 1: the wrist is most common, and then the elbow, armpit, waste, buttocks,

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Speaker 1: That's all I have to say. I just can't imagine well,

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Speaker 1: kids actually chuck get scabies in slightly different areas. Um,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want either face gabies. Obviously people are gonna

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Speaker 1: with that, Chuck, Josh. Crusted scabies, Is that where you're going? Yes,

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Speaker 1: crusted scabies oka a Norwegian scabies. Yeah, I wonder where

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Speaker 1: good thing because it's infinitely more gross. I think it's

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Speaker 1: very severe and it's identified by thick crusts over the skin.

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Speaker 1: And each of these crusts can contain millions of the

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Speaker 1: mites scaping mites. Right, Remember we said the adolescent average

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Speaker 1: adolescent with scabies has about eleven females gaby mites. If

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Speaker 1: you have Norwegian scabies, you have, like you said, millions

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Speaker 1: but they may not itch. No, and that's one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why you you you don't get the scabies

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Speaker 1: from scratching your skin over and over again. Um, and

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Speaker 1: reasons why people who get Norwegian scabies don't have that

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Speaker 1: because it infects people in large part who can't itch physically,

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Speaker 1: like the paralyze, the paraplegic. Can you imagine though, like

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Speaker 1: that's a good question. Someone will probably right in and

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Speaker 1: tell us, so, chuck. One of the reasons why scabies

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Speaker 1: time you're being infested and infested and invested right, Um,

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Speaker 1: but you're still contagious and it spreads fairly easily. So

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Speaker 1: they can have scabies outbreaks fairly easily. Yeah, I think. So,

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Speaker 1: what happens if you suddenly have a pimply rash on

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Speaker 1: your penis that starts to it's really badly at night? Well,

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Speaker 1: after you shriek and terrifying pain and shock and horror,

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Speaker 1: you should go to a doctor obviously, first things first,

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Speaker 1: and the doctor will most likely prescribe a scape aside

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Speaker 1: prescribed um. Scape aside is called elamite or elamite, very

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Speaker 1: should point out that like calamine lotion and these things

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Speaker 1: that will help the itch, but that doesn't do anything

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Speaker 1: punch it. Same with cool baths. That's h prescribed to

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Speaker 1: So you've got a couple of pharmaceutical options. What's more, UM,

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Speaker 1: since it is very easy to spread, you shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: the only one with the lindane or illimite. All of

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Speaker 1: your family members should do the same treatment. Your betting

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Speaker 1: very least has to be washed on the hottest setting. Yeah, sanitize.

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Speaker 1: We have a sanitize setting on that we use quite

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Speaker 1: a bit at our house. Yeah, well, not for scab

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Speaker 1: kills anything. We have animals, you know, they'll pee on something,

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Speaker 1: I read that line in this article, I started to think, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the stuff that gets brought to them. That if you're

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Speaker 1: You know? I know, wow, Yeah, I never thought about that.

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Speaker 1: So you've got your family unlockdown, everybody's covered in ointment,

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