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Speaker 1: Now joined by the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy on one oh five three the Fan. Good morning, coach,

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Speaker 1: how are you. I'm doing well, Warrant Sewan and our

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Speaker 1: game coach. Thanks for joining us with the schedule adjustment.

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Speaker 1: We know you've talked about it. We know it's been

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Speaker 1: covered and all the criticism. Do you think that all

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Speaker 1: the criticism, coach, of the fake punt and the way

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Speaker 1: the Washington game ended, uh is justified? Is legitimate? Is warranted?

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Speaker 1: It is a fair criticism. Oh, I think it's mean.

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Speaker 1: I think it's part of our part of our game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, when when it tells well,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, obviously there's there's praise to be distributed,

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Speaker 1: but when it doesn't, there's there's blame to place. So

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Speaker 1: I think we all recognize that in professional sports. But

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Speaker 1: I clearly understand the thing of the decision. You know

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Speaker 1: the risk of the decision at the time, and but

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Speaker 1: you know, in all the facts and variable as you

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Speaker 1: look into and you calculated and you know, attended the day,

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Speaker 1: you're trying to give your players a chance for big

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Speaker 1: play opportunities. And so but I get it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's that's part of that's part of when you don't win.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, it's, uh, it's all about winning and

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Speaker 1: we gotta we have to do more to win. Coach,

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Speaker 1: I really liked that you said after about you know,

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Speaker 1: not thinking negatively and you know the play design was

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Speaker 1: was you got the look you wanted, right, But uh,

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Speaker 1: so you take us through the information that you guys

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Speaker 1: didn't seem like the game was out of reach or

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Speaker 1: had showed differently? Like what what was that thought process? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean we we we had punted earlier, so um

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Speaker 1: there was a look we're looking for. They actually went

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Speaker 1: So um, you definitely would have preferred to that. You

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Speaker 1: just to just the opportunity there to to make to

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Speaker 1: to call that in a certain read in the film

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Speaker 1: position to you know, once again to get the percentage

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Speaker 1: of the you know, the defensive look you're looking for.

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Speaker 1: And you know, going into the game it was the

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Speaker 1: film position. It was between the twenty and the forties.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean all those things factor and um,

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Speaker 1: You know, we had some injuries and so forth, and

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Speaker 1: and that was you know, that was the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: to run to run the fake and and we took

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Speaker 1: a shot at it was Uh, coach, was c J.

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Speaker 1: Goodwin a part of Cedric's read or was was he

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Speaker 1: not part of what he was supposed to go through

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Speaker 1: in that process? Yeah, I mean it was. It was

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Speaker 1: a really good reaction in Ralph reading route by by

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Speaker 1: and once again we haven't you know, we haven't met

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Speaker 1: with our players that since with everything going on, so

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Speaker 1: you know this this hasn't been discussing internally between us

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Speaker 1: and the coaches in the players. When you look at

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Speaker 1: all the you guys have run a number of fake

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Speaker 1: is I think something that you know is you may

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Speaker 1: And you know what a statistic denial is it ad

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Speaker 1: here too is there's thirty five that almost your first

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Speaker 1: So I mean, all those things are part of it.

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Speaker 1: especially the good teams, that it comes down the execution.

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy here on the Buyers Barricade's phone line with

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Speaker 1: Shawan and RJ on the fan coach. This is just

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Speaker 1: based upon if we got the look, then we made

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Speaker 1: So I think you have to look at you know,

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Speaker 1: all those things are part of a healthy evaluation process. Coach, Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you guys were dealing with the passing of your good

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Speaker 1: when you look back, maybe you haven't looked back on it.

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Speaker 1: How how tough was this entire week for your entire

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Speaker 1: the coach Paul situation. I mean, I thanks lady all this.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's uh, it's been difficult for for all

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Speaker 1: I mean I think logic will tell you we'll finish,

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Speaker 1: but this year he's losing the ball. Is that something

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Speaker 1: So we just need to be better there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: So it's a it's a number one priority. It has

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Speaker 1: work with these guys every day. Luck goes into us.

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Speaker 1: So it's I think when the team lines up in

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Speaker 1: clearly reflects the confidence that we having our players. Coach.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for the time. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you got a little nice Thanksgiving break yourself, stay

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Speaker 1: safe and we'll catch up with you next week. Thank

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Speaker 1: you all right, Thank you. Jona