1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: and Buck podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm Tutor Dixon, and 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: it's great to have you tuning in today. This is 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: kind of a special day for me because we have 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: someone that when I was a kid, was a total 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: teenage heart throb. And I'm not trying to embarrass him 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: or anything, but every girl that I knew had a 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: poster in the room with Kirk Cameron's face on it, 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: So I'm really excited. Oct We were all huge Growing 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: Pains fans, and I'm really kind of sad that there 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: is not a show like that for my kids to 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: watch and get involved in. And I just think it's 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: really cool what you've done and how your story has 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: inspired so many people because you left Hollywood behind, found faith, 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: you're raising six kids. Kirk Cameron, thank you so much 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: for being on today. We really appreciate it. 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: Tutor. It's a pleasure and an honor to be here. 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on the program. And yeah, I 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: gave up Hollywood and left it behind for Left Behind 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: and moved on to some other things that a little 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: more meaningful to me than you know Mike Seaver sneaking 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: out the window. 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: I am holding up the video because there it is. 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: There, it is, there is, And I don't think we 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: have to win any It's not going to win any awards. 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't the greatest movie in the world, but it 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: certainly marked a time in my life where the focus 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: of my mind and my heart we're heading towards things 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: of meaning and permanence. So that was reflected in the 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: career and the projects that I chose, and I'm really 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: really grateful for how things that have turned out. 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: It's really interesting to me as I kind of look 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: at your life story, and I think a lot of 35 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: us have had this coming to faith as I think 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: you almost some people obviously have had that their whole childhood. 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: But there's a moment when you realize you've been saved, 38 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: and there's a moment when you want to share the 39 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: good news in a different way. And it's been this 40 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: past week has been interesting for me because I've watched 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: my daughter graduate her eighth grade class from a Christian 42 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: school and that faith base. But she's doing this at 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: a time where there is a lot of focus on pride, 44 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: and I mean, this is Pride month, right, So that 45 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 2: message of pride is really pushed on kids that pride 46 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: is important, and I think that we as parents, as 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: Christian parents, kind of go, Okay, that's a hard concept 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: to discuss because I'll say to my girls, I'm so 49 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: proud of you for doing this, and they're like, but Mom, 50 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: isn't that a bad thing? And I explained to them, 51 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: you know, being excited for your success and cheering you 52 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: on is different from what it means to not be 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: a prideful person. So how to tell us a little 54 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: bit about how this book explains the dangers of becoming prideful? 55 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, good for you. What is like 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: honor roll mom teaching moment for the rest of us 57 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: to talk to kids about what pride really means. So 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: when we say I'm proud of you, sweetheart, you just 59 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: expressed it. You said, I'm expressing how excited I am 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: for you. I'm cheering you on. I'm grateful that you've 61 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: learned this lesson and accomplished this thing that you did. 62 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: And that reminds me actually what we read in the Bible. 63 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: We see at Jesus' baptism, the voice from God, the 64 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: Father saying, this is my son whom I love, and 65 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: in him I am well pleased. Listen to him. There's 66 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: a father who's the buttons of pride are popping off, 67 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, his chest. But that's the kind of gratitude 68 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: and cheering on that we want to pour into. But pride, 69 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: properly understood, is a self centered thing. It's where I 70 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 1: judge other people because I think I'm better than them. 71 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: Pride is the root of racism. Pride is the root 72 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: of misogyny, of all violations of human rights. Jesus said, 73 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: Pride is what caused him to see Satan fall from 74 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: heaven like lightning, because full of pride, Satan wants to 75 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: steal the glory of God. And that's what pride does. 76 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: Pride makes us think that we're God, that we don't 77 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: need God. We can create reality, We can create and 78 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: define morality, reality, gender, and anything else that we want. 79 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: So good for you. I'm trying to teach kids the 80 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: lesson through this book that I wrote called Pride Comes 81 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: Before the Fall, and it's the story of a tiger 82 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: named Valor who has to partner up with a rookie 83 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: elephant named Kevin in a boat race and he learns 84 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: the important lesson that arrogance and anger all stem from 85 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: pride and that the path forward to win in life 86 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: is to consider others above yourselves and learn to be humble. 87 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: That is, you've had huge success having these book readings, 88 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: and I think that's something that people, I guess I 89 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: would say at this moment where we see a lot 90 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: of prideful people, and we see this happening in business, 91 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: and we see this happening in politics, especially I'm coming 92 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: out of the political world, and so we're seeing this 93 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: kind of pushed on people, and so this idea of 94 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: having a values based book reading has not been the focus. 95 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: And you came out and initially it was not well 96 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: received by public libraries. But your last book reading was 97 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 2: pretty impressive, wasn't it. 98 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: Well. The funny thing is that coming from the Hollywood world, 99 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: which is the land of make believe, we make a 100 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: living at creating perceptions that are not reality. It's all 101 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: it's all shiny this way, but really it's not. What 102 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: I've learned is that there are libraries, thousands of them 103 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: all over the country who would love to have parents 104 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: come and read books about love, joy, peace, humility, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, 105 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: self control. Why, because that's what we want in our kids. 106 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: We want them to be. Do you want your kids 107 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: to be full of pride? Do you want your kids? Hey, honey, 108 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: I want you to go to school today and I 109 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: want you to learn how to be a proud person, 110 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: how to be full of pride. 111 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 2: Well, that's when you get some saying back to you, 112 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 2: I don't need to go to school. 113 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: No, we want them to be humble. So when we 114 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: were died by over fifty woke libraries that previously held 115 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: drag Queen story hours, we pushed back, wrote a letter 116 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: and reminded them that this is the United States of America, 117 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: and you can't deny people coming to a story hour 118 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: or reading room simply because you don't like their viewpoint. 119 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: And that's violation of free speech, that's violation of the 120 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: freedom of religion and all kinds of things. And so 121 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: we told them that we would be prepared to assert 122 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: our constitutional rights in court if they kept it up. 123 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: They caved. We went to the Indianapolis Library and over 124 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: two thy five hundred parents and kids overwhelmed six floors 125 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: of the library. They were out the door down the street. 126 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: But then there's other libraries like Seattle Public Library, which 127 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: welcomed us, although there's protesters coming in holding boards about 128 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: something about hate and something about me growing into a 129 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: real pain. So you got to applaud him for right creative. 130 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: That's right, he's creative. And then we were in Louden 131 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: County Public Library yesterday across the hall from a leftist 132 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: leaning group called Teach Truth. And in fact, that's ironic 133 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: because they're teaching lies in the name of truth. And 134 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: that's why we have to be educated and why we 135 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: need to teach these things to our kids, because they 136 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: see something that has the skin of all of the truth, 137 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: but it's stuffed with the lie. So we come into 138 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: something called Pride Months, and kids think it's about being 139 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: proud of yourself. But listen, even rightly understood, if you 140 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: were to say, well, I'm proud of you, or I'm faithful, 141 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: or I'm grateful for who God's made me, Pride Month 142 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: isn't about that. Weirdly, it's about wanting the rest of 143 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: the world to celebrate other people's sex life. I mean 144 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: think about that, I mean, really get down to it. 145 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean I can love my enemies, I can love 146 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: being a man. I can love being an American and 147 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: you can too, and we can be into different things 148 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: politically and hobbies and sports and look different. But if 149 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: you're part of the pride thing, it's really about who 150 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: you like to have sex with or who you like 151 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: to have sex as, and we want to be pushing 152 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: that into our children. That's wildly inappropriate and abuse We've. 153 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: Talked about so many times is that this is solely 154 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: about who you are having sex with, and that is 155 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: such a You have to question why do people want 156 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: to bring this into the lives of children. And then 157 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: the flip side of that is that you're coming and 158 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: you're reading books to kids that are giving them hope, 159 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: that are bringing joy, that are are showing them future 160 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: and how to love one another. And that is not 161 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: and in no way are you putting down other groups. 162 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: I think that's the thing that is so important and 163 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: so key when you see these manipulative people come in 164 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: with signs that say this is hate. No, no, there 165 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: is nothing hateful about this. You are not You are 166 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: not putting anyone down. You are not prideful. You're not 167 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: coming out and saying we're better. You're saying there is 168 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: an opportunity to live in a joyful and hopeful way. 169 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: And I think that's something that's so key right now 170 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: in crisis, because we have so many kids in crisis, 171 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: families and crisis. It's just a tough time. And honestly, 172 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: I was telling you about my daughter graduating in my 173 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: friend of ours, who is not in a Christian school, 174 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: said it was shocking to me to see the kids 175 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: had just lost a classmate and on ax expectedly, and 176 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: she said the ease with which they were able to 177 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: talk about the joy of her life in this time 178 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 2: was amazing to me because they had faith and think 179 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: there is a there is a reason that we are 180 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 2: asked to spread the good. 181 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: Word one percent. I love this quote from uh Noah Webster. 182 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: But before I get to that, I want people to 183 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: note that what I'm doing is part of a much 184 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: larger movement of a revival and a renaissance of the 185 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: values that led to this being the freest, strongest, most 186 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: blessed nation in the history of the world. And if 187 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: you want to check out not only my book, but 188 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: books that were written by many different authors, go to 189 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: Brave books dot com and they've got books that have 190 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: pro God pro America values all day, every day that 191 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: teach the fruit of the spirit and worn against things 192 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: like well, one book is called The Island of Free 193 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: ice Cream, warning children about the dangers of socialism that. 194 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: We actually have had the founder of Brave Books on 195 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: and I'm so glad that you brought that up, because 196 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: it is such an awesome thing to do for your kids, 197 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: that you have these books constantly coming to the house, 198 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: and just such an awesome opportunity. 199 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: So instead of watching the news and putting your face 200 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: in your hands while you sit on the couch and 201 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: cry in your Chick fil A soup wondering what can 202 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: we do, go to Brave Books dot com and subscribe 203 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: to the Book of the Month club, and a new 204 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: book will show up at your kids, at your grandkid's 205 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: door every single month with a pro God, pro America value. 206 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: And there you're doing something. You're investing in their hearts 207 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: and minds and planting seeds of fearless faith and moral 208 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: integrity into the next generation. Okay, Now, Noah Webster, one 209 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: of our founding fathers, had a great quote, and this 210 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: is so important for us to understand. I'm not trying 211 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: to push religion on anybody. I'm not trying to force 212 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: some people to believe something that they don't want to believe. 213 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: In fact, that goes against my religion. But Webster said 214 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: it so well. He was not only founding father, but 215 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: father of American education. He gave us Webster's Dictionary, and 216 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: Noah Webster said, every government is built on some philosophy 217 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: or religion, and the education of a nation will propagate 218 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: that religion. In the United States of America, that foundational 219 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: religion was Christianity, and it was sown into the hearts 220 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: and minds of children for generations through the home, through 221 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: private and public education. And it was root that produced 222 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: the fruit of success and liberty and freedom in America. 223 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: And if we want to continue with our success and 224 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: our freedom, it depends on instilling into the children of 225 00:12:54,360 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: America the principles of Christianity. That's not somebody's opinion. That's 226 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: the fact from the people who understood the blueprint of 227 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: the nation that has been unique in its successes throughout 228 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: all of history. It's the ability to self govern because 229 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: you love God and you love other people. 230 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 231 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. It's interesting. I'll let you in 232 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: on a little bit of background when you're running for office, 233 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: because obviously I was running for office in a blue well, 234 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: it was a purple state at the time. Now it's 235 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: a blue state, but we're you know, we're still calling 236 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: it purple because I believe we can get it back. 237 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: But even in the conservative circles. One of my very 238 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: first meetings, I was talking to the woman and she 239 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: was asking me why I was running, and I, you know, 240 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 2: I went through and all I said about my faith 241 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: was as a family, we prayed about the decision before 242 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: we came to it, and then we talked and talked 243 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: in at the end of it, she looked at me 244 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: and she said, let me give you one bit of advice. 245 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: Don't ever tell anybody about your faith because you will 246 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: turn so many people off. It is something that people 247 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: make the mistake up all the time, and you should 248 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 2: never do it. And then just a few weeks ago, 249 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: I spoke with one of my supporters and he said 250 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: the same thing. You need to make sure that the 251 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: people around you never speak of Christianity. And it struck me, 252 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: and you know that it's one of those things that 253 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: when you're out there. You live in a world where 254 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: you're told not to offend people. And I've thought about 255 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: that so much in the past few weeks, right, But 256 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: think about that they are allowed to say to me 257 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: something that you I mean, it is some It's the 258 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: first thing, you know, that's the first part of me. 259 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: It is what guides me. It is what helps me 260 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: to make my decisions. It is what guides me and 261 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: my parenting choices. And that is something that in the 262 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: country that was found on Christianity, we are now told 263 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: that if you are running for office, you should never 264 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: bring that up. And like I said, I'm not trying 265 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: to same as you. I'm not telling you you should 266 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: be a Christian. I am telling you this is what 267 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: guides me. That is my north star. You should know 268 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: what is telling me what direction I should go, and 269 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: you should know that about me. But we are told 270 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: to hide that. Isn't that shocking? 271 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: I actually am telling people they should become Christians because 272 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: I love them and I want them to become Christians 273 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: and know the loving Creator who has a plan for 274 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: their life that will lead to their peace, their blessing 275 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: and a relationship with God and with others. And I 276 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: know that you want the best for people too. It's interesting. 277 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: There's so much that we could talk about here. I mean, 278 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: just the very idea that someone tells you that you 279 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: should never talk about your faith because it would be offensive. 280 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: That statement in itself is offensive to millions of people 281 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: like you and me in the United States. And I 282 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: so want to respond to people like that by saying, 283 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: your hatred and your bigotry are showing. You might want 284 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: to cover those up because you're going to lose all 285 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: of your friends when they recognize that you have a 286 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: religion of your own that you're trying to shove down 287 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: our road. And it's called secular humanism, which has no 288 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: room for Christians like me. That's the height of arrogance 289 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: and pride, and it's the opposite of inclusivity and diversity. 290 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: You want to rid your land of people like me. 291 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: And it's actually the people from my clan who actually 292 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: love God and the principle of Christianity that make room 293 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: for atheist Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims and everyone else to be 294 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: part of selecting leadership in the country through the voting process. 295 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: That's only the result of the principles that I adhere 296 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: to and those are the principles of christian. 297 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, because part of our 298 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 2: Christian faith is to be loving, to take care of 299 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: widows and children, and that's something that I think that 300 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: people have sort of twisted around on Christianity and said, well, 301 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: you know, you're stopping that from happening. The we're the 302 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: loving ones. You have six children yourself. Four of those 303 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: kids are adopted. That is so beautiful. Explain to us, 304 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: like what led you to that choice to adopt, and 305 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: how have you seen your faith grow those children in 306 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 2: all different ways, because I know as a mom of four, 307 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: every one of them has a different personality and they 308 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: are all very unique and exciting. 309 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we love having six kids. And you know, 310 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: having six kids was the result of really loving my 311 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: wife a lot. And we have four children that we 312 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: adopted first, and then we had two kids the natural way. 313 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: And my wife is actually an adopted child, and so 314 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: that's a very special bond that she has with our 315 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: adopted children. And in fact, I just made a movie 316 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: this came out this last summer called Life Mark with 317 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: the Kendrick Brothers. It's all about the beauty of adoption 318 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: and the value of life in the womb. I can't 319 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: imagine where my life would be right now without the 320 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: most important people that are in it, my wife and 321 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: my children. And if it weren't for valuing life in 322 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: the womb and recognizing adoption as a beautiful method of 323 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: bringing families together, I wouldn't have my wife. I wouldn't 324 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: have my four kids. And if my wife hadn't been born, 325 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: if she'd been lost through an abortion, say, then my 326 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: two natural born children wouldn't be here either. So adoption 327 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: is very important to me and to my wife, to 328 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: our family, and to millions of Americans. And that's why 329 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: it's always going to be at the heart of the 330 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: things that I do. 331 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: So why do you think that's not a bigger part 332 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 2: of a bigger push in this country, Because we obviously 333 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: went through just now a major in twenty twenty two, 334 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: a major fight over choice, But there doesn't seem to 335 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: be that same passion over fighting to make it easier 336 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: to adopt. It's hard to adopt in many states, it's 337 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: expensive to adopt, and it's hard to do that. How 338 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 2: do we change that? I mean, what can be done 339 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: to show people the beauty of adoption? 340 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't think that's that hard. 341 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: We've just got to have the same heart that God 342 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: has for the widows and the orphans. As you said earlier, 343 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: true religion is helping widows and orphans in their time 344 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: of need. There are so many kids out there that 345 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: need to be adopted. Unfortunately, there's not as many when 346 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: you have so many abortions and those children being cut 347 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: up and flush down the sewers of the United States. 348 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: But there are thousands and thousands and thousands lining up 349 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: to adopt children. There are more parents out there who 350 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: either can't have children or want to have children but 351 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: are un unable to, who want to adopt kids, And 352 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: so we just need to do it. If we can 353 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: just adopt those kids and adopt the orphans, we can 354 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: make a huge difference. And just think Jesus himself was 355 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: adopted by Joseph when he found out his wife or 356 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: he is, the woman he's betrothed to be married to, 357 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: is pregnant. Think of that. Think of Moses himself, the 358 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: great law giver of the Ten Commandments, was adopted when 359 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: his mother had to put him in a basket, floated 360 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: him down a river, and the pharaoh's daughter comes and 361 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: adopts him and sees him as her own. Adoption is 362 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: a beautiful thing where God brings people from different backgrounds 363 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: together and makes them into a family, just like he 364 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: does with us. I was an atheist. Now I'm his 365 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: son and a member of his family. He adopted me 366 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: when I came to him by faith. 367 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 2: You have such a beautiful way of intertwining every story 368 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 2: into faith and connecting it back to the Bible. But 369 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 2: you just said you were an atheist and you were that. 370 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: Explain that story, because I think that's also something intimidating 371 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 2: when you talk about faith to someone who doesn't get it. 372 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I also know what it was as an 373 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: adult to say, oh, actually, this is what it is 374 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: to be saved and feel that change in your life. 375 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: So I think, but I know because of that, I 376 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: also know how it is easy to hold religious discussions 377 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: at bay because you're not there yet. So explain what 378 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: it was like to have that transformation. 379 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: That's the positive trans movement. We read about it and 380 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: you read about it, and it's very exciting. It happened 381 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: to me. I had that trans experience, and I went 382 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: from a person that was reveling in the kingdom of darkness, 383 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: and I was transformed by the renewing of my mind, 384 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: not conformed to the pattern of this world, but transformed 385 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: into the kingdom of God's love and light. That's really 386 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: all it means. As an atheist, I had faith that 387 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: nobody created everything out of nothing. That takes a lot 388 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: of faith to be an atheist. Nobody times nothing equals everything, 389 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: that nothing made everything. And then somebody took me to 390 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: church and I heard the message of the Gospel from 391 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: the Bible. And I never understood that book. I just 392 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: thought it was filled with these and thows and rules 393 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: to ruin my life. And then I understood that one 394 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: day I will die and I will meet the creator 395 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: of the sun and the moon and the stars, the 396 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: one who forms babies in their mother's wounds, the one 397 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: who causes roses and strawberries and peaches and grapes to 398 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: come up out of brown colorless sorry, not colorless, but 399 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: but you know dirt that doesn't smell or and it 400 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: isn't sweet, and outcomes cherries and watermelons and beautiful painted 401 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: sunrises and sunsets in the sky with water and light. 402 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: And I will give an account of my moral choices, 403 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: and I will need his forgives, and he offers it 404 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: to us had great cost to himself, and that was 405 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: the death of his son Jesus on the Cross. That 406 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: message captured me. I started asking questions and came to 407 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: the conclusion that it required more faith for me to 408 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: remain an atheist than it did for me to believe 409 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: in God. And I went to church, read a Bible, 410 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: and wanted to become a follower of Jesus Christ. And 411 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: it was the best decision that I've ever made. And 412 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: my pastor told me, Kirk, if anybody ever asked you, 413 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: how did you find God in Hollywood, I want to 414 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: remind you he didn't find God. He wasn't lost. You were, 415 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 1: and he found you. 416 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: That's right. He'll leave the ninety nine to go after 417 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 2: the one. Absolutely. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll 418 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: continue next on the Tutor Dixon podcast. It's fascinating to 419 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: me something you said resonated that you said all of 420 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: those rules will ruin my life, that feeling of if 421 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: I commit to God, then I have to step away 422 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: from who I am and what I am, And I 423 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: think that that goes all back to pride right, because 424 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: I mean, we started this conversation with pride, and I 425 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: feel like we can end it on that same note, 426 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: because I think so many people are afraid to take 427 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: that leap into even reading the word or go walking 428 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: into a church. Today we see that churches are struggling 429 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 2: to get young people in. But I think that there 430 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: is a time right now where that pride is leaving 431 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 2: people so empty, and all of the draw of social 432 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: media and being self important and self care and that 433 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 2: life balance and all of those things that sounds so 434 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: good are leaving people really empty. And I go back 435 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 2: to the story of the kids in my daughter's eighth 436 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: grade class who just lost a classmate, and one of them, 437 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 2: the mom said to me, and this really touches me. 438 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: The mom said to me, my daughter overheard some of 439 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: the adults say I can't believe that she's gone. And 440 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: she came up to me and she said, why did 441 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: they say that, Because she's not gone. I know where 442 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: she is. I'm like, that's faith. 443 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so good. And children have an ability to 444 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: see things that older people don't. We can be blinded 445 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: and our vision is obscured by fear and by worry, 446 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: and by pride and other types of things. You know. 447 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in a hotel room right now, looking out 448 00:25:54,440 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: my Manhattan's skyscraper window in my hotel, and because of 449 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: the fires in Canada, everything's very smoky here, all right, 450 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: and I cannot see anything beyond about half a mile, 451 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: and there's this cloud coverage. But this reminds me about 452 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: something I know about faith. I'm looking at the sky 453 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: and I believe that the sun is on the other 454 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: side of this smoke and those clouds, not because I 455 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: can see the sun, but because the sun allows me 456 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: to see everything else. Faith in God is similar. I 457 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: don't believe in God because I can see God. I 458 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: believe in him because his existence is what allows me 459 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: to see everything else, to see love clearly, to see 460 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: truth clearly, to see goodness clearly. Without God, we don't 461 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: have the ability to perceive any of those things. And 462 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: they say, well, atheists, no love. Atheists can tell that 463 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: there's light, goodness, and truth, right. That's because God exists. 464 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: But if you take him out of the equation, everything 465 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: goes dark. And as an atheist I do I make 466 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: the miss I made the mistake many do today, and 467 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: that is atheists steal from the Christian worldview. They steal 468 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: from our worldview the source of truth, beauty, and goodness, 469 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: and they hijack those and just assume that they're real. 470 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: But according to their worldview, without God, none of that 471 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: can really exist. 472 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it goes back to you saying that you 473 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: didn't find God, He found you and that and that 474 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: is so I think that's important for people to hear. 475 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: Is that even I mean especially, I think there's a 476 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: lot of parents right now who feel like they've lost 477 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 2: their kids in faith that you know, we have a 478 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: lot of kids that go off to college and they 479 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: get kind of hold into this concept of being prideful 480 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: and you know what that looks like and stepping away 481 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 2: from Christianity because you know, there's now people that consider 482 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: Christianity a hate group. I mean, this is really we're 483 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: really at this weird point of persecution that Americans never 484 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: really had to face before because we were just very 485 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: relaxed and the fact that that was protected, right, we 486 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 2: didn't have to be concerned about that. But now it's 487 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 2: a choice, and it's a deliberate choice to make. But 488 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: even in those times when you are not trying to 489 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 2: walk with God. He is there and he is showing you, 490 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: and He is always there to bring you back. And 491 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: I think that is the coolest part about being a 492 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: Christian and being a Christian parent, because there is there 493 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: are all these outside, these outside influences, and there's never 494 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: a moment where hope should be lost because He is 495 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: always there and he is always seeking you. You are 496 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: out there spreading. This tell us a little bit more 497 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: about the book and where people can find it and 498 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: how they can see you reading to kids and libraries. 499 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: My very first book was called As You Grow, and 500 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: it taught kids the value of biblical wisdom and growing 501 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: the fruit of the spirit like love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, 502 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: and self control. My second book is called Pride Comes 503 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: Before the Fall, and it's a great book about a 504 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: tiger named Valor and an elephant named Kevin who have 505 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: to learn a very important lesson about humility. And it's 506 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: coming out at a perfect time June first, kids are 507 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: about to get out of school. We're just in time 508 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: for summer reading programs and during a month where kids 509 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: are being taught that pride is a good thing and 510 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: that they should have lots of it. We want to 511 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: remind kids of the truth that pride is the base 512 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: of all great mistakes. In fact, pride is the opposite 513 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: of love. We see the rainbow colored signs of pride 514 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: and love, pride and love. But pride is about self 515 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: and love is about others. So the truest expression of 516 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: love is not pride, it's humility. And we just have 517 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: had a president Joe Biden this weekend raised the pride 518 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: flag front and center on the White House. But did 519 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: you know that George Washington raised the humility flag. He 520 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: did that under his authority as the Commander in chief 521 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: of the Continental Army in seventeen seventy five, proving that 522 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: the United States of America was built on humility, not 523 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: on pride. So I made a phone call to the 524 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: White House this morning, Tutor, and I suggested that if 525 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: we really want to be known for love in America, 526 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: we should replace the pride flag with the humility flag. 527 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: That is awesome. I love that because here we have 528 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 2: such a strong influence from Hollywood that we've been trying 529 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: to really kind of battle, and you come from there, 530 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: you have a voice, you are using it for so 531 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: much good. It's really been an honor to have you 532 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: on the program, And for anybody listening, check out Brave Books. 533 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: They're in partnership with Kirk what he's doing, the amazing 534 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: things that you're doing going out there and kids can 535 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: be getting these books, parents can be reading along. And 536 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: I think the thing that I love in the most 537 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: about this message that I feel like we need to 538 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: get across is that this is just a lesson in 539 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: how you can you can feel peace and you, I mean, 540 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: I really do believe that your soul is at much 541 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: more peace when you are living in a way accordance 542 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: with what God is asking you to how God is 543 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: asking you to live. And it's not controversial. It is 544 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: just filled with love and filled with hope. And that's 545 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: what you're out there teaching. 546 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for that. You got to tell that 547 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: to the protesters that are showing up in our public libraries. 548 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: Something's controversial to that. And I think that when we 549 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: go against the spirit of the age and we properly 550 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: define love and properly define humility, there's going to be 551 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: some pushback because there's those who profit off of hatred, bigotry, 552 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: and pridefulness. So thanks for this. I appreciate you and 553 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: all the great work that you're doing. And if anyone 554 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: would like to find out more about this original humility 555 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: flag that was raised by George Washington, or you want 556 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: to find out more about my book Pride Comes Before 557 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: the Fall, go to Brave books dot com and even 558 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: consider signing up for the Book of the Month Club. 559 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: It's awesome because they send a new book every single 560 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: month to your front door for your kids, grandkids with 561 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: a progodpro America value at Brave books dot com. 562 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: I love it. Kirk Cameron, thank you so much for 563 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: being here with me today and thank you all for 564 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. As always for 565 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: this episode and others, you just check out tutordixonpodcast dot com. 566 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: You can subscribe right there or head over to iHeartRadio app, 567 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and make 568 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: sure you join us every Monday, Wednesday and Friday on 569 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Have an awesome day,