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Speaker 2: Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: Hey yo, Welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Old

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Speaker 3: Trapper Beef Jerkey, live here in New York City, Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: November twenty eighth, the completion of Week twelve.

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Speaker 4: I'm Jamier at all.

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Speaker 3: There's Kyle Brandt, Peter Schrager, and Jason mccordy. Should I

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Speaker 3: say what I wrote in our Gourney Football document last

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Speaker 3: night about this game? Hurt to watch a little bit,

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Speaker 3: a little bit. It was a challenging one for both teams.

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Speaker 4: But maybe we found out some things about the Bears

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Speaker 4: and the Vikings Chase.

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Speaker 5: We'll say, I don't know about that. We'll see we

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Speaker 5: will have.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we found out some things about other teams.

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Speaker 5: Peter, Yeah, there's a chance. I mean you look at this.

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Speaker 6: That's opened up things.

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Speaker 5: In the NFC.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I found out here, there's a

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Speaker 1: show document. I didn't know that we have a thing

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Speaker 1: that we all right on. It's incredible.

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Speaker 6: I had to say one thing, as ugly as last

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Speaker 6: night wasn't as wolf as it was.

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Speaker 5: Let me we would be crying for this game in April.

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Speaker 6: You'll be crying for me, you said, Bears Vikings.

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Speaker 5: On June. We do it?

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Speaker 1: Should we do it? Let's go to the state of Manka.

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Speaker 1: Bears become the first team all season to win a

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Speaker 1: game without scoring a touchdown, and the first time the

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Speaker 1: Bears have done it since Jim Harbaugh was their quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the nineties. Let's hear from Justin Fields after a

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Speaker 1: dub something we can't often do, and the head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Bears take it away, Coach Flues.

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Speaker 2: I think it's very important.

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Speaker 7: Obviously our goal is to win a division and and

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Speaker 7: but more importantly, I believe it's the way we finished.

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Speaker 7: I think that's going to be more lasting going going

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Speaker 7: into these next ball games. And uh, you know, like

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Speaker 7: I said, the proof's right there. We've been doing a

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Speaker 7: lot of good things on offense, defense, and kicking, and

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Speaker 7: it's good to win a tight one like this.

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Speaker 8: Our message was just finished, finished, finish, because you know,

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Speaker 8: there's been too many times this season where we've been up.

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Speaker 8: You know, we didn't do a good job of finishing.

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Speaker 8: So again just going back, proud of everyone for fighting

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Speaker 8: through the end, you know, no matter what had happened,

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Speaker 8: and you know, finishing their game out and you know,

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Speaker 8: ultimately got the dubs.

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Speaker 4: And finish the Bears did.

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Speaker 3: They really did have to rely on the kicking game.

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Speaker 3: As coach flu s mensa, they pulled off an upset

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Speaker 3: on the road in the division. Jake takeaways from last

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Speaker 3: night's game in Minnesota.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we started to highlight package off with a lot

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Speaker 9: of Joshua Dobbs, and Dobbs as a guy that got

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Speaker 9: to Minnesota right away, it was like lightning in a bottle.

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Speaker 9: He was making plays. And it's like when you first

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Speaker 9: start dating someone. You got matched up with someone that

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Speaker 9: you weren't you weren't familiar with, weren't friends before anything

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Speaker 9: of that nature. You meet them, everything is brand new.

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Speaker 9: Every time they do something, you're surprised, Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 9: where was this wonderful person, my.

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Speaker 5: Entire life fresh.

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Speaker 9: It's just it's amazing infatuations. And then time goes on,

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Speaker 9: time goes on. How you say, next thing? You know,

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Speaker 9: you move in AND's just like, my goodness. They don't

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Speaker 9: That was kind of the culmination of it all. We

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Speaker 9: know the playbook. He's running around, he's making plays with

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Speaker 9: his feet. Everything is off schedule. Even Kevin O'Connell said

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Speaker 9: last night after the game, sometimes we forget like he

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Speaker 9: The question for the Vikings now is do you continue

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Speaker 9: to move forward with Dobbs going into their bioregle connall said,

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Speaker 9: we don't know. We're gonna evaluate everything. They have Jaral

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Speaker 1: I think the storyline of every person that Jerry and

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Speaker 4: Into it continues.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. Listen, I'm happy for the Bears that

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Speaker 1: It's a terrible streak, like it was a little bit

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Speaker 1: Is justin feels the Bears quarterback in the future, like

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Speaker 1: you see the guy moving forward. I'm asking I'm asking

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think anybody knows. Understand, there's

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Speaker 1: and going against it Newton or whatever. Everybody who says, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, if fields doesn't take care of the ball,

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Speaker 1: they didn't score a touchdown. It's always like the on

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Speaker 1: coaches are terrible. They called seventy three screen passes last night.

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Speaker 5: They're not letting him.

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Speaker 1: He's in this end of his third year. We've seen

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Speaker 1: where we're going. We have a very very very very

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Speaker 1: very loaded draft class coming out. Bring up the draft

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Speaker 1: order right now, because we saw the Bears one last night.

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Speaker 1: And like I've said it many times, the most underappreciated

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Speaker 1: happen with Justin Fields. Yeah, they have the number one

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Speaker 1: I think, in two sentences summed it up perfectly. This

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Speaker 1: the evidence is there for Chicago to make a change

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Speaker 1: in the off season. It's fair to wonder if this

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Speaker 1: fair to contemplate whether Fields truly is the problem or

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Speaker 5: I don't know if we.

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Speaker 1: Great are they sticking with him? If they're sitting there

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Speaker 5: Here's my push to you.

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Speaker 6: So yes, the previous episodes of this show and sitcom talk,

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Speaker 6: it has been Field plays awesome, but they don't win.

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Speaker 6: Last night, they won and Fields didn't look awesome. So

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Speaker 6: do you do you balance it. How do you take

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's nothing.

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Speaker 1: They didn't score touch one, they didn't score touch.

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Speaker 9: On even though his drive at the end of the

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Speaker 5: Win the games.

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Speaker 1: But that that's supposed to be like we do that,

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Speaker 1: We got out of bed doing that.

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Speaker 5: We're in your three.

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Speaker 1: I don't like you can't say, wow, look at you,

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Speaker 1: they beat the Vikings twelve to ten. Never mind, we're

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Speaker 9: It's TBD still and to your point, you said seventy

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Speaker 9: three scerings. Legitimately eighteen passes were at.

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Speaker 9: But early on in that game they couldn't protect him,

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Speaker 9: Luke Getzi is doing that because he's trying to find

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Speaker 9: out and he's making a pass. So to your point,

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Speaker 9: Where to your point, if you have the first overall

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Speaker 9: so you think it's the.

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Speaker 9: But it's just like your watching film and it's always

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Speaker 3: For potentially two in the top five, that's really hard

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Speaker 3: to get more. The Vikings are in a very precarious situation,

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Speaker 3: they're supposed to handle the next four to five weeks

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Speaker 3: of their life, which is do we play it safe

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Speaker 3: or do we keep trying to shoot for the stars

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Speaker 3: here and who do we do that with. It was

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Speaker 3: two thirty six left in the game, it was fourth

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Speaker 3: and five, and they try to get the Bears to

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Speaker 4: They try to have a sixty one.

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Speaker 3: Yard field goal attempt, move five yards closer to make

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Speaker 3: it easier on Greg Joseph despite the sixty one yard

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Speaker 3: or being a Greg Joseph career long, not that he

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Speaker 3: hit that five years ago. He hit that last December.

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Speaker 3: I think he could have done it. They take the

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Speaker 3: delay of game, They pumped this ball away. They put

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Speaker 3: the Bears on the twenty six, and the Bears marched

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Speaker 5: We've seen it two weeks in a row.

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Speaker 3: They're taking it the cautious approach, if you will, but.

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Speaker 4: Now they're on a buy.

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Speaker 10: Jamie, the Vikings will activate Justin Jefferson within the next

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Speaker 10: I was told Jefferson was very close to attorney last night.

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Speaker 10: Thomas Brown, the offensive coordinator, will run the offense on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom the Panthers bottom five and a lot of

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Speaker 3: Curious to watch it unfold for Carolina, Let's talk Panthers

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Speaker 6: Sure, if you like money share and guaranteed money, He's

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Speaker 6: I think Josh McCown was very surprised by this. I

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Speaker 6: Time shared with Philadelphia, you're almost setting not just back

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Speaker 6: I really am concerned about Bryce Young over these next

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Speaker 9: a hot name and you have six requests for an interview,

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Speaker 9: what's going to make you choose that one over the

436
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Speaker 9: next one? Even if you love Bryce Young, the situation

437
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Speaker 9: that you're walking into isn't a great one, unless to

438
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Speaker 9: your point, you're saying, all right, well he's firing on

439
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Speaker 9: coach as well. If I go, maybe I can figure

440
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Speaker 9: out what my next hobby is going to because I

441
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Speaker 9: make it fired within one to two years.

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Speaker 1: You know, I made the remark yesterday, it's the best

443
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Speaker 1: job ever. You'll get along contract, you'll get fired and

444
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Speaker 1: then you'll get paid to do nothing for a few years.

445
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Speaker 1: But if you're one of these superstars or one of

446
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Speaker 1: these up and comers, like I do, think it's about

447
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Speaker 1: so much more than money, Like you're trying to build

448
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Speaker 1: a career here and you're trying to win and have

449
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Speaker 1: the money. These guys who have the high stock do

450
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Speaker 1: unusual things sometimes, Like I look back to Josh McDaniel saying,

451
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Speaker 1: no to the colt's job. You have the coach job.

452
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Speaker 1: He's going to coach. Andrew Lucky said, just no, I'm

453
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Speaker 1: not feeling it. I feel like I have the cards here.

454
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Speaker 1: So someone you're talking about these star coordinators, just point

455
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Speaker 1: to the reason why you'd want to go to Carolina

456
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Speaker 1: other than a it's one of the thirty two and

457
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Speaker 1: if they're that hot, they can pick another one or

458
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Speaker 1: be just money and then you're taking the panther's job

459
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Speaker 1: if just for money, like you can get money elsewhere.

460
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Speaker 1: It's just like, it's that's not that they drafted Bryce Young.

461
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Speaker 1: They gave up so much to get him. There's no

462
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Speaker 1: help coming. There's no Marvin Harrison Junior coming next year.

463
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Speaker 1: It's not happening. You don't have the pick. So I

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Speaker 1: just I think it's been a rough twenty four hours

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Speaker 1: for David Tepper, and he has looked at as a

466
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Speaker 1: coach killer who just throws money around and doesn't know

467
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Speaker 1: what he's doing, just throws money at every problem. Look,

468
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Speaker 1: we've met him, we liked him. He's got congenial personality.

469
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Speaker 1: Interesting guy. But he's been on the show. He's been

470
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Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah, I mean like I don't know

471
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Speaker 1: him personally, he's been on the shows.

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Speaker 6: He and his wife Nicole have been on the show

473
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Speaker 6: several times for the charitable.

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Speaker 1: Stuff they to do in bad And one time he

475
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Speaker 1: rode a bicycle up to the set in Miami and

476
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Speaker 1: I was like, this guy's interesting, but he doesn't win.

477
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Speaker 1: He fires people, and like, that's going to be your boss.

478
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Speaker 1: Frank Reich we've seen for years. I feel like I

479
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Speaker 1: grew up Frank Reich. He looked like a hostage in

480
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Speaker 1: his press conferences. I mean actual like he looked miserable.

481
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Speaker 1: I went from brown to gray in literally ten weeks. Yeah,

482
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Speaker 1: it was white. It was like a full president thing.

483
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Speaker 1: He looked completely miserable. So you're gonna step in for

484
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Speaker 1: that office, You're not gonna win you're not gonna get

485
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Speaker 1: him any help. You look at the team this year

486
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Speaker 1: that it's not a great team, it's not a great roster.

487
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Speaker 1: So I don't know who they get. I think what

488
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Speaker 1: you're getting is one of these old timers is already

489
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Speaker 1: a made guy who just wants a whole bunch of money,

490
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Speaker 1: doesn't care if he gets fired. But I don't see

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Speaker 1: you're not getting the next Sean McVay. Why would he

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Speaker 1: want to do that?

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Speaker 3: Well, somewhere else, And the Panthers still have a general

494
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Speaker 3: manager sitting there in Scott Fitterer, who that person still

495
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Speaker 3: has their job.

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Speaker 4: So that's curious.

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Speaker 3: That would be another boss that this head coach is

498
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Speaker 3: going to have to answer to. The Bill Belichick thing, Peter,

499
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Speaker 3: you just kind of mentioned his name. That whole regime

500
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Speaker 3: is very curious in.

501
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Speaker 4: New England right now.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of coaches that have experienced there.

503
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Speaker 3: I said this name in early January before Frank Brake

504
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Speaker 3: was hired, that Bill O'Brien. I have never been around

505
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Speaker 3: a coach that has loved been obsessed with his quarterback

506
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Speaker 3: more than Bill O'Brien was with Bryce Young at Alabama.

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Speaker 4: There are two years and him coaching.

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Speaker 3: Our entire meetings when we were at Alabama appuction mes

509
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Speaker 3: was just how amazing he thought Bryce Young was. And

510
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Speaker 3: I know the Bryce Young Obama talent is not the

511
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Speaker 3: Bryce Young Panthers talent that we've seen. The talent on

512
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Speaker 3: both of those teams is vastly different. But that is

513
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Speaker 3: a name that if the Bill Belichick then goes awry

514
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Speaker 3: and the entire house is clear to New England, you

515
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Speaker 3: have a lot of coaches that are available, and I

516
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Speaker 3: put Bill O'Brien back up there. But my point about

517
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Speaker 3: the GM being the Bill O'Brien experience with the Texans

518
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Speaker 3: was not great because he was in charge of the house,

519
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Speaker 3: He was in charge of the headset, he was in

520
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Speaker 3: charge of everything. Maybe Bill O'Brien wants to go to

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Speaker 3: a place where he doesn't have to be the general

522
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Speaker 3: manager and he can just focus on the football and

523
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Speaker 3: coach a player that he clearly adores.

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Speaker 5: Would be good if.

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Speaker 6: You want to look at some of the younger names,

526
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Speaker 6: and Bill Brian would be He absolutely should interview if

527
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Speaker 6: that goes that way and they do all get fired

528
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Speaker 6: in New England, or if he just wants to interview

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Speaker 6: even without getting fired in New England. I would say

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Speaker 6: Bobby Slowick in Houston is like a hot name right now,

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Speaker 6: although the Vans were booing him up in Philly at

532
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Speaker 6: some points. Brian Johnson and Philly is the name. Tepper

533
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Speaker 6: comes from Pittsburgh. He was a minority owner of the

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Speaker 6: Pittsburgh Steelers. Is there anyone from that organization that he

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Speaker 6: would pluck from? And then he also has a good

536
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Speaker 6: relationship just it's known him and Jeffrey Laurier are very close.

537
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Speaker 6: Would he look to the Philadelphia guys and say, okay,

538
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Speaker 6: well there's been a lot of success there.

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Speaker 5: Who can we take?

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Speaker 6: But it's wide open and a fitter isn't retained and

541
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Speaker 6: he's let go, Well, then you have a whole GM

542
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Speaker 6: search also, and you kind of want to have the

543
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Speaker 6: GM and the head coach have some relationships as well.

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Speaker 6: Interesting times. Of course, the last point about it, like

545
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Speaker 6: it wasn't just Carolina who said that Bryce Young was

546
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Speaker 6: an every mock draft, every draft, they all had Bryce Young,

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Speaker 6: and most of them, almost to a fault, had Bryce

548
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Speaker 6: Young overseas the Stroud Yeah, So suddenly is this a

549
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Speaker 6: slam door done or is it? Hey, if we get

550
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Speaker 6: the right coach in the right situation, I could be

551
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Speaker 6: the coach that gets Bryce Young to the next one

552
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Speaker 6: because he's a first overall pick.

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Speaker 5: And a lot of people believed he was worthy of that.

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Speaker 3: So the Frank Craik thing obviously wasn't the correct match

555
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Speaker 3: because the numbers have been a bosmal let's say for

556
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Speaker 3: the Panthers offense for Bryce Young this season, it's not great.

557
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Speaker 3: That's not where you want your name next to thirtieth

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Speaker 3: and thirty, first and last in league.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if Stroud was on the Panthers what he'd

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Speaker 1: be doing.

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Speaker 4: That's great? Right?

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Speaker 1: Does he have the same Stroud just have it?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Right, Jason?

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Speaker 3: What do you think the Panthers need to do with

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young to get him to a point where his

567
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Speaker 3: name is not listed next to the last categories.

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Speaker 5: You gotta get talent. I know you just mentioned CJ.

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Speaker 9: Stroud and we're watching Tank Dell just absolutely go off

570
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Speaker 9: with watching Nico Collins have one of his best years.

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Speaker 9: The veteran coming in Robert Woods is kind of the

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Speaker 9: third option. There's still met you, there's still other guys around.

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Speaker 9: When you go to the Carolina Panthers, it's DJ Chark,

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Speaker 9: it's Adam Thielen as Jonathan Mingo as a rookie, they

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Speaker 9: don't have the same type of weapons.

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Speaker 5: Adam Thielen is the guy there.

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Speaker 9: Where you look at Houston, they brought in a veteran

578
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Speaker 9: in Robert Woods to kind of be the leader in

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Speaker 9: the room, but to be a.

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Speaker 5: Third option on that roster.

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Speaker 9: Whereas Carolina, they're looking at theeling to be the guy

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Speaker 9: down in and down out. Look at the offensive line.

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Speaker 9: For the Carolina Panthers, they're struggling. Bryce Young is running

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Speaker 9: for his life back there. When you compare it to Houston,

585
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Speaker 9: they went and got Shaq Mason to the trader for him.

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Speaker 9: They got Lormie Tuntel on the outside. They have guys

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Speaker 9: that surrounded c. J. Stroud when they brought him in.

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Speaker 9: And to your point, I don't know what you do

589
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Speaker 9: with Bryce Young at this point. We watched the Chicago

590
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Speaker 9: Bears last night because they're not able to protect justin fields,

591
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Speaker 9: throw screen after screen after screen. We joked about it,

592
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Speaker 9: and you laughed about the Carolina Panthers against the Tennessee Titans.

593
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Speaker 9: At the end of the game, they threw a screen

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Speaker 9: to Chanaul on the outside when they really needed to play,

595
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Speaker 9: but the truth of the matter is they can't get

596
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Speaker 9: the ball down the field because they can't protect Bryce Young.

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Speaker 9: And all of this shows I think you bring up

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Speaker 9: the best point is you're seeing a young quarterback, the

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Speaker 9: first overall pick that we watched flourish flourish at Alabama,

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Speaker 9: and it goes back to the nurture part of it.

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Speaker 9: We've seen so many quarterbacks come in and have multiple

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Speaker 9: offensive coordinator bad situations, and their careers kind of go

603
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Speaker 9: in a downward spiral because of what's surrounding, and that's

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Speaker 9: the fear as you watch Bryce.

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Speaker 5: Young real quick.

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Speaker 6: I think that's beautifully and well said about the surrounding pieces,

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Speaker 6: but it doesn't have to be a complete Like I

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Speaker 6: look at the Brooklyn Nets. I know we're talking NFL,

609
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Speaker 6: NBA Brooklyn Nets. They got rid of Durant, they got

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Speaker 6: rid of Kyrie, they got rid of Harden. The Nets

611
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Speaker 6: are eight and eight and they're in the playoff frount

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Speaker 6: right now, they're four seed, right right. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 6: way to do this with good management and good leadership,

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Speaker 6: and you bring in young pieces. Bridges will carry the

615
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Speaker 6: nets and I'm sure someone will come in for the Panthers.

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Speaker 6: But it doesn't have to be okay, well, now we've

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Speaker 6: got to tear the whole thing down and still be competitive.

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Speaker 6: And right now they're just simply not can't.

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Speaker 9: Keep hitting reset, you keep hitting reset, you just keep

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Speaker 9: ended up in the same situation that your area.

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Speaker 6: We've got a lively commercial break with our guests on remote.

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Speaker 5: We've been talking with Let's bring them right on here.

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Speaker 6: Three times super Bowl champion, Yes, plenty of plenty of

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Speaker 6: history with some of the names that we just mentioned.

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Speaker 5: Answer segment Scopio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning everyone. That was lively.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we're talking about the Panthers. But the Steelers

628
00:25:46,228 --> 00:25:48,348
Speaker 6: made a move, not the head coaching job, but the

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Speaker 6: offensive coordinator job, and they replace Matt Canada, and the

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Speaker 6: team responded with four hundred yards of offense for the

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Speaker 6: first time this entire season and went on the road

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Speaker 6: and won in Cincinnati. When you see something like that

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Speaker 6: and from your vantage point, what goes into creating those

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Speaker 6: positive results out of what could be a mid season

635
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Speaker 6: coaching shakeup that changes everything.

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Speaker 11: First of all, Peter I wasn't surprised at all at

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Speaker 11: the success that Addie Faulkner had this first week with

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Speaker 11: the Steelers offense. And with Joe Brady back with the

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Speaker 11: Buffalo Bills, because when you look at teams offenses, you

640
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Speaker 11: always have to think about the other side and what

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Speaker 11: teams are preparing for is they're getting ready to play

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Speaker 11: teams is tendencies and what they have been doing now.

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Speaker 11: It's just like when they make a change at quarterback,

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Speaker 11: you get a new offensive coordinator in there, and Joe

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Speaker 11: Brady is not going to call the plays the same

646
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Speaker 11: way that Ken Dorsey is. Eddie Faulkner's going to do it,

647
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Speaker 11: not going to call plays the same way that Matt

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Speaker 11: Canada does. They have different favorites in terms of what

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Speaker 11: they want to do with players. So when they first start,

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Speaker 11: there's going to be a very high likelihood of their

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Speaker 11: being success. But just like the quarterback situation, you can't

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Speaker 11: be fooled by initial success. You have to see if

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Speaker 11: they can sustain it. So if you're either one of

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Speaker 11: those teams offenses, you should be encouraged, but don't think

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Speaker 11: that too much is going to happen because defensive coordinators

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Speaker 11: are going to start zeroing in on the offense and

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Speaker 11: the play calling sometime soon.

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Speaker 1: Elsewhere in Pennsylvania, Scott the Eagles are ten and one.

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Speaker 1: They have trailed in halftime in four straight games. They've

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Speaker 1: won all of them. That's an NFL record. Where are

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Speaker 1: you at right now, Scott? With this Eagles team, where

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Speaker 1: they're going? What do you need to see more of?

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling about them? Is this just going

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Speaker 1: to be a coast to the NFC title game in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 12: They have some issues, Kyle. It starts with the fact

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Speaker 12: that they have a very good roster. They have a

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Speaker 12: very good locker room, they have a very good coaching staff,

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Speaker 12: and a terrific front office. You put all those things

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Speaker 12: together and also add in the fact because they've had

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Speaker 12: success and it's just the way this team is built.

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Speaker 12: We know Howie Roseman, we know Nick Sirianni, we know

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Speaker 12: Jeff Stoutlin and all the players.

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Speaker 2: This is a very confident team.

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Speaker 11: So to me, when you look at their resiliency, nine

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Speaker 11: times out of ten, resiliency is based in confidence. They

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Speaker 11: have respect for one another. They have a lot of

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Speaker 11: trust for one another. The players not only trust one

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Speaker 11: another in the locker room and on the field.

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Speaker 2: They trust the front office, they trust the coaches.

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Speaker 11: So I think when you have those that kind of

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Speaker 11: trust and you have that kind of talent, there's a

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Speaker 11: really good chance that you're going to have the confidence

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Speaker 11: that you need in order to be resilient.

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Speaker 2: And have the comebacks the way that they've had him.

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Speaker 3: For sure, Scott, let's stare straight into the sun and

687
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Speaker 3: look at the headlines from the NFL. Frank Raich was

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Speaker 3: fired yesterday morning as a head coach of the Panthers,

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Speaker 3: the second shortest head coaching tenure in the league.

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Speaker 4: Who are some names, off the top.

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Speaker 3: Of your head that you would think as good head

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Speaker 3: coaching candidates from Carolina?

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Speaker 11: Well, off the top of my head, you know, I

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Speaker 11: heard this was going to be part of our question

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Speaker 11: of someone we're going to talk about in Jamie.

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Speaker 2: To me, you nailed it.

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Speaker 11: I'm thinking about Bill O'Brien, And as crazy and as

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Speaker 11: far fetched as some people may think that that is,

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Speaker 11: you nailed it. Billy O'Brien has spent two years with

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Speaker 11: Bryce Young when he was so successful, and I really

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Speaker 11: do believe that the Carolina Panthers is going to look

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Speaker 11: at offensive coaches. And yet we hear the name Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 11: We also hear Brian Johnson, And to me, Brian Johnson's

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Speaker 11: a guy to keep an eye on as well. Got

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Speaker 11: a long list here of ten names who are people

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Speaker 11: who should absolutely be considered four jobs.

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Speaker 2: But Brian Johnson also on the side.

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Speaker 11: You know, Kyle Whittingham was his college coach at the

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Speaker 11: University of Utah when Brian was an incredibly successful quarterback.

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Speaker 11: You listen to coach Whittingham talk about Brian, then you

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Speaker 11: look at the fact that Brian coach Jalen I mean,

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Speaker 11: excuse me, he's coach Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia. But before

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Speaker 11: that it was Dak Prescott in college. Here's a coach

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Speaker 11: who knows how to develop players. But again, to me,

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Speaker 11: you nailed it before when you talked about Billy O'Brien.

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Speaker 2: To me, keep an eye on him in that situation.

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Speaker 9: All right, Scott, I'm going to brighten a conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'll belong.

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Speaker 9: We're asking about coaching vacancies. Let's talk about what's brewing

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Speaker 9: in New Jersey with our guy Tommy Davito and the Giants.

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Speaker 9: They won two straight and he's been their starting quarterback.

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Speaker 9: What do you make of da Vito and these New

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Speaker 9: York Giants?

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Speaker 11: Jason, First of all, I can hear Bill Parcell's voice now,

725
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Speaker 11: hanging over East Rother for New Jersey saying, hey, let's

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Speaker 11: not fit the guy for a gold jacket yet, please people.

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Speaker 11: But when I look at Tommy DeVito and the combination

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Speaker 11: of Brian day Ball, a coach has been a part

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Speaker 11: of helping develop Josh Allen, Tom Brady, you know he

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Speaker 11: was down with Jalen Hurts and all you know with

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Speaker 11: Tua at Alabama, I would be in curaged. But if

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Speaker 11: I'm Brian da Ball, I also have some other concerns.

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Speaker 11: There's a part of Tommy DeVito's game that concerns me

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Speaker 11: in the fact that we all remember he was back

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Speaker 11: with us in studio back on April twenty ninth, the

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Speaker 11: third day of the draft, and if we can throw

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Speaker 11: some photos up here, please, I want to talk about

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Speaker 11: Tommy DeVito's decision making in terms of what his spread

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Speaker 11: was going.

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Speaker 2: To be for draft day, and we look here.

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Speaker 11: This is his parents' garage, all right, this is his parents' garage.

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Speaker 11: His agent showan Stillatta sent this to me. I see

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Speaker 11: some kind of meat that is in bragol. I see

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Speaker 11: a bunch of leftover fish. I don't want to see

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Speaker 11: fish until Christmas Eve. When you're showing me seven. All

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Speaker 11: those things are almost gone, and we're looking at two

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Speaker 11: trees of bake ZD that are barely touched. I've got

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Speaker 11: some red flags on Tommy DeVito and some of his

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Speaker 11: decision making. So to me, you know, I know Brian

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Speaker 11: dave Ball pretty well. Brian likes to eat. I was

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Speaker 11: with them in New England and with them in Kansas City.

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Speaker 11: Brian better be talking to Tommy Davite about his decision

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Speaker 11: making in terms of his food and what he's going

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Speaker 11: to be putting out there.

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Speaker 1: Just just the opposite.

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, I would sign him to a

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Speaker 6: ten year contract hundred million dollars, just like it has

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Speaker 6: to do.

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Speaker 5: That bag ZD right.

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Speaker 1: Now right looks fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I know, some kind of mouth open. What is that?

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Speaker 6: Shout out to the agent Sean Stellato with the picks?

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Speaker 2: I love that, Yeah, Sean

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Speaker 11: Stuff, Scott, Thanks everybody, Hey, have a great week, all right,