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Speaker 2: Oh Chill the Dolphins to beat the Rams by the
Speaker 2: score of twenty three to fifteen. Tua was twenty of
Speaker 2: twenty eight two oh seven, one touchdown one in reception.
Speaker 2: They ran the ball twenty two times for sixty seven yards.
Speaker 2: Not a whole lot, but Tua did just enough three sacks,
Speaker 2: one turnover. Matthew Stafford was thirty two of forty six
Speaker 2: two ninety three no touchdowns. No, they didn't score. They
Speaker 2: kicked five field goals that missed one. He had one intercession,
Speaker 2: got sacked four times. Hooper Nicole had nine catches for
Speaker 2: ninety eight. Cooper Cup had seven for eighty, but none
Speaker 2: of them got the ball into the end zone. And
Speaker 2: what it was three possessions back to back to back
Speaker 2: to back where the Dolphins turned it over and then
Speaker 2: the Rams turn it over, and then the Dolphins turned
Speaker 2: it over again. So with that big yeah, I think
Speaker 2: that's how it went. But there was three consecutive possessions
Speaker 2: in which a turnover occurred. But oh chow, the Dolphins
Speaker 2: get on the get of the win by the score
Speaker 2: of twenty three to fifteen over the Rams. They do
Speaker 2: it on the road. They moved to three and six.
Speaker 2: So now with seven games to gou what do you like?
Speaker 2: What do you think the chances are the Dolphins go
Speaker 2: on a stretch here, win some games and get into
Speaker 2: the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, they and not that. For the Dolphins
Speaker 1: to go on the stretch, two, it's gonna have to
Speaker 1: play perfect. You're gonna have to protect the ball, not
Speaker 1: throw any interceptions, and Mike Vidalias has to get that
Speaker 1: passing game going the way it was going last year.
Speaker 1: Every game Tyreek Hill was hitting his head off the
Speaker 1: goal post. They was putting Tyreekan positions to make plays.
Speaker 1: They got to get the ball of water. They need
Speaker 1: a third person, who I would say was Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: They need to find a way to integrate him into
Speaker 1: the game plan as well, because, for one, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna double, if you're gonna double goddamn Tyreek, you're gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna single up or or sometimes depending on what
Speaker 1: defenseive defense they play, you're gonna double up goddamn Waller
Speaker 1: as well. They gotta find a way to add Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham as the threat to the pass the game to
Speaker 1: open things up a little bit more for the run
Speaker 1: game most of than a han They they was okay tonight,
Speaker 1: still not enough. If you want to go on the
Speaker 1: seven game win streak in the next nine games, the
Speaker 1: chances of them actually doing it is very difficult.
Speaker 2: Now they got seven games.
Speaker 1: No, they gotta win. They gotta win seven of the
Speaker 1: last nine, No, uncle, in order to make the guy there.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, they can't win seven of the nine
Speaker 2: because there's not nine games left. Oh it's Monday, there's
Speaker 2: only seven games left.
Speaker 1: What week is this?
Speaker 2: We can dine? No, unc, they're three and six.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, well if my mass hurd me right.
Speaker 2: So that's not three plus six and nine, they got
Speaker 2: a gay Actually they got eight, so seventeen games, they
Speaker 2: got eight games left.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, okay, okay, so they gotta they gotta win
Speaker 1: the last eight.
Speaker 2: Now, oh, Joe, I think the question is, yeah, now,
Speaker 2: if they get in, that means you might cause are
Speaker 2: they gonna be three teams from the NFC North because
Speaker 2: it might come down to them in Cincinnati, because I
Speaker 2: think you and I both believe Baltimore and Steelers are
Speaker 2: gonna get in. Oh yeah, most one will win the division.
Speaker 2: The other will be the probably the top wild card.
Speaker 2: Right yeah, Okay, you got Kansas City, right, and you're
Speaker 2: probably gonna you're gonna have looks like it's gonna be Houston.
Speaker 2: So if you got if you got Baltimore, Cincinnati, you
Speaker 2: got Kansas City, you got Houston. So you do in Buffalo,
Speaker 2: that's fine. You only got two spots left.
Speaker 1: Hold on you left off of Steelers. You can't even
Speaker 1: say Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: No. I said, one of those will win the and
Speaker 2: the other will be the top wild card. That's two, right,
Speaker 2: Buffalo three, Kansas City four, Houston five. Okay, you got Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: you got uh, Cincinnati, Miami, Denver, Denver.
Speaker 1: What you what you threw them in that farm?
Speaker 2: Because Denver is four is what? What's the record? Five
Speaker 2: and four? Four and four? The Broncos are five and four.
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 2: The Bronco See the Broncos are five and five.
Speaker 1: Oh, Joseph, I know, I know they had five hundred.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: This ain't the make a witch foundation. The Broncos ain't
Speaker 1: going nowhere. The Broncos, you.
Speaker 2: Do realize their two games clear of the Dolphins in
Speaker 2: the wind column two.
Speaker 1: You do understand it's did it take the snap of
Speaker 1: the fingers for the Dolphins to look like the Dolphins
Speaker 1: are old? And they turned that thing around and going
Speaker 1: and going to run. We can't compare the god damn
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos offensive.
Speaker 2: But hold on, but you comparing the Dolphins of the
Speaker 2: Dolphins of old that can just snap a finger and
Speaker 2: get on the road. So what do you do?
Speaker 1: The reason they don't look right offensively? And Tyreek and
Speaker 1: wadall numbers of down this year because tool was out.
Speaker 1: That's the only reason.
Speaker 2: So what's the likelihood of the tour? You you you
Speaker 2: count on tour? You willing to be any amount of money?
Speaker 2: That too is going to stay healthy rest of the year,
Speaker 2: of course. Current Mark Drafts number one overall, pick Travis Hunter,
Speaker 2: number two overall pick to the Giants, North Sanders number
Speaker 2: three overall. Pick cam Ward quarterback Miami, number four overall,
Speaker 2: pick Cleveland Brown McMillan, the receiver out of Arizona, number five,
Speaker 2: Will Johnson quarterback Michigan, number six overall to the Patriots,
Speaker 2: O T. Will Campbell, number seven, d Line Mason Graham eight,
Speaker 2: Abdual Carter Edge, Penn State number nine. Nick Courk, what
Speaker 2: is that? Gorton Edge Texas A and M and then
Speaker 2: Kevin Banks Junior ote. I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it, I like it, I like it. I
Speaker 1: like that love Mark draft as male type of shit.
Speaker 2: I don't know who that. I don't know who that is. Okay,
Speaker 2: we might, ay, we might, we might uh we might
Speaker 2: start our own box. Yeah, we don't want to get that.
Speaker 2: We don't watch enough tap man, we don't watch no tape.
Speaker 2: We can't. I mean, look, I ain't got the time
Speaker 2: to sit down and break down the tape. I got
Speaker 2: too much over I playing right now with five shows,
Speaker 2: two ESPN shows and a show once two shows a
Speaker 2: week with clubs. I absolutely have it.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny when I think about it, you know,
Speaker 1: without having a without having to dive deep into it.
Speaker 1: You know, from the surface level, from a fan watching
Speaker 1: watching collegiate games, I can kind of.
Speaker 2: Tell you who is that boy and who's not.
Speaker 1: I don't need to sit there and watch two hundred
Speaker 1: thousand hours of goddamn film to tell you, Oh, that
Speaker 1: young fella down he can play when you turn on
Speaker 1: the fan, when you turn on the film, there are
Speaker 1: twenty two people on the field.
Speaker 2: If you really like that.
Speaker 1: Outside of that twenty two on film, that individual always
Speaker 1: pops out. He pops out always. You can tell who's who.
Speaker 1: And that's that's pretty much. It's that's my piece.
Speaker 2: I am not mal Mike Rodgers posts a little fun
Speaker 2: hashtag red line at Aaron Rodgers after Aaron Rodgers called
Speaker 2: out Mike Williams for running the wrong route route and
Speaker 2: they lost to the Bills. Williams took the high road.
Speaker 2: After Williams made a stellar debut and the Steelers, he
Speaker 2: posted on ig celebrating his first game. Williams added three
Speaker 2: hashtags whole lot of hashtag number two was we back,
Speaker 2: and number three hashtag red line The last one was
Speaker 2: a direct reference to Rogers criticism. Aaron Rodgers told reporters
Speaker 2: after Monday Night Lost in Buffalo, Williams was supposed to
Speaker 2: be on the red line on the practice field, five
Speaker 2: yards from the sideline.
Speaker 1: Hey see how you threw Mike Williams under the bus.
Speaker 2: He's off, oh Joe, that's his history.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I liked I like it. I
Speaker 1: like the subliminal shot though, yeah, I like it. I
Speaker 1: like the little jazz. Hey, the stealers the Steelers played,
Speaker 1: don't play the Justice year.
Speaker 2: I don't know the steel Jets or they already played them.
Speaker 1: Probably not, probably not either way, listen, I like it.
Speaker 1: I like I like the fact that it was it
Speaker 1: was bothering them.
Speaker 2: You know. Oh yo, nobody listen, nobody likes to be
Speaker 2: thrown under the bus. And that hurt. That hurt because
Speaker 2: do you know how many times we could ay, what
Speaker 2: about that interception you threw? Oh yeah, what about that
Speaker 2: fumble you had? What about that read? What about that
Speaker 2: heart read that you missed? And there's always stuff to
Speaker 2: go around, but you're mindful that. Look, everybody's in a
Speaker 2: stressful situation. Our job is to go out there and
Speaker 2: win all the while while somebody's trying to hit you
Speaker 2: in the back of your damn heat. Yep, So I'm
Speaker 2: not look, I'm My job is not to try to
Speaker 2: embarrass somebody when I get on the sideline. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: would yell at. I would try to keep it to
Speaker 2: a minimum because I know the mikes were gonna try
Speaker 2: to pick up anything that I said, or the camera
Speaker 2: is gonna fly, But I would. Most of my things
Speaker 2: correcting was done once we got into the building away
Speaker 2: from prying eyes of fans, media cameras or whoever. Oh,
Speaker 2: everybody was like, Cooper Rush can lead this team. Look
Speaker 2: at him, He's so much better than that, said that
Speaker 2: man through for forty five.
Speaker 1: Y'alls said he was better than that, but they were
Speaker 1: trying to be funny cowboy fans.
Speaker 2: Jery had people believe that he was even even Troy.
Speaker 2: Even Troy and Tony Romo said, nigger, hey, there might
Speaker 2: be a frenzy for a Cooper Rush. He's a very
Speaker 2: good quarterback.
Speaker 1: He right back there in Dallas and got damn media dollars.
Speaker 1: Me know they gonna they gonna see anything to support
Speaker 1: support a young fella. Man. I understand what he's saying,
Speaker 1: but he knew he wasn't better than that.
Speaker 2: No matter what you no, come, I knew nobody would
Speaker 2: bro He'll back up. He could win you a couple
Speaker 2: of games here and there until your starter comes back.
Speaker 2: But what't nobody gonna put their franchise in.
Speaker 1: His understand I don't, I don't. You know what's funny
Speaker 1: is that's for them to be able to say that
Speaker 1: and understanding that he is a backup and he wouldn't
Speaker 1: be the future of your franchise, especially putting the keys
Speaker 1: in his hands, uh for success and being able to
Speaker 1: compete at a high level week in and week out.
Speaker 1: We need to take their credibility cards too.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: So it's okay for them to do it, but if
Speaker 1: it's us, you know, we're hered of a different standing
Speaker 1: when to come to see in certain things about certain players.
Speaker 2: Got yeah, but I tried, oh Joe. I try to
Speaker 2: be a look. I try to evaluate what my eyes
Speaker 2: tell me, what my what my experience tells me. I
Speaker 2: don't look at where he plays, I don't look at
Speaker 2: the position that he plays. I just basically go about
Speaker 2: what my eyes tell me and what my experiences tell me.
Speaker 2: That's how I valuate the player. And I know some
Speaker 2: people like, well, you don't like this guy or you
Speaker 2: don't like that guy. It's not about like a dislike.
Speaker 2: My job is not to like a dislike. My job
Speaker 2: is to offer an honest critique of said player said teams.
Speaker 2: I try to do that to the best of my ability.
Speaker 2: I understand when fan bases, certain fan bases don't like
Speaker 2: what I say, But if you check my history, I've
Speaker 2: criticized Tom Brady, Tony Romo, some of the great quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: When you play, when you play well, I got no
Speaker 2: problem saying you play well. But when you play bad,
Speaker 2: I think I owe it to the fans that watch
Speaker 2: me to say that you play bad. When I say you,
Speaker 2: oh yo, what fans got to understand? When I say
Speaker 2: a player is playing bad or play bad, that doesn't
Speaker 2: take away anything great here the accomplished. If you've been
Speaker 2: an All Pro, if you've been an MVP, a Defensive
Speaker 2: Player of the Year, or whatever the case may be,
Speaker 2: that doesn't take away from that. You've already won that
Speaker 2: that can't be taken away. I'm talking about a specific
Speaker 2: game or a stretch of games. That's what I'm evaluating
Speaker 2: you on. That's it nothing more than nothing less. You're right.
Speaker 2: I like it. And sometimes people are like, you're trying
Speaker 2: to diminish the God. No, how can I diminish what
Speaker 2: he'd already done? It's not the hold on? What's that?
Speaker 2: The old Wheel of Fortune? I know you don't remember this,
Speaker 2: O Joe and a lot of people in the chat,
Speaker 2: but Chuck Woollery used to be the original host of
Speaker 2: Wheel of Fortune, and they used to what you do.
Speaker 2: You spend the wheel and they would let you bry.
Speaker 2: They would let you buy stuff. So if you won
Speaker 2: twenty five hundred dollars, you can buy a microwave for
Speaker 2: three hundred dollars. I would like to buy that his
Speaker 2: and her bicycles for seven hundred and fifty dollars. So
Speaker 2: you could buy stuff with the money that you won.
Speaker 2: And once you buy a prize, it was yours the key.
Speaker 2: You only lost if you had money and you hit bankruptcy.
Speaker 2: So I'm like the Wheel of fortune. Once that guy's
Speaker 2: acomplished that, I'm not. I can't take it back. He's
Speaker 2: done it. But I think it's I think for someone
Speaker 2: to feel that because they're an accomplished paylort player and
Speaker 2: they're above reproach. I disagree, I bibly disagree. I streously
Speaker 2: this whoa, whoa, whoa. There's some big words, man, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but hey, I ain't. I ain't never heard that before?
Speaker 2: What kind of what kind of well? You what disagree?
Speaker 2: What streams? Okay? Okay, I disagree too long now, but
Speaker 2: I need oh show. Rookie kicker Jake Bates walked it
Speaker 2: off with a fifty two yarder. He tied it up
Speaker 2: with a fifty eight yarder as the Lions rally to
Speaker 2: beat the Texans twenty six, twenty three. Jared goff through
Speaker 2: five one, two, three, four, five interceptions, sinko sinko interceptions.
Speaker 2: This one is gonna hurt because there's no where you're
Speaker 2: supposed to lose a game ojo at home when the
Speaker 2: opposing teams turns it over five times. Houston held a
Speaker 2: twenty three to seven lead at the break, only to
Speaker 2: watch it evaporate. The Texans lost three of the last
Speaker 2: four games, fall to six and fourth, six and four.
Speaker 2: There's still a top the FC South, and they're getting
Speaker 2: Nico Collins back next week, which should help. But Nico
Speaker 2: wasn't the reason why they lost him. Not having him
Speaker 2: wasn't the reason. Big question about this team silly remains
Speaker 2: after tonight. Yeah, you got to win this game, O Joe.
Speaker 2: You have to home. You're up. Cj Bro. You can't
Speaker 2: come out out of halftime and throw a pick, Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: How many times a people fans, a listening audience, I'm
Speaker 2: viewing audience, how many times have you heard Ojo and
Speaker 2: I say, if you're late with that out ball, it's
Speaker 2: gonna get picked if the guy can catch. Now, if
Speaker 2: he can catch, he's gonna pick it. If he can't catch,
Speaker 2: you're gonna knock it down. But it's not gonna be
Speaker 2: in completion when you late. He's off. He's in a
Speaker 2: clue position. So that tells you automatically you can't be
Speaker 2: late with it right because he driving on Joe, he's
Speaker 2: already that way. He's driving.
Speaker 1: And if anything, if you go, if you're gonna miss,
Speaker 1: don't miss inside, miss wide and outside.
Speaker 2: It's not it's incomplete out of bounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he got to be one of the other
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't leave it inside, but it is
Speaker 1: one the other way.
Speaker 2: Give cart Davis a lot of credit because he Doe
Speaker 2: made a heck, go play on the ball. He had
Speaker 2: two outstanding interceptions. I don't know why CJ on the
Speaker 2: secondes uh, the first interception put so much air on it.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, what if he think that that Carlton David
Speaker 2: was gonna give up on the plate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I think?
Speaker 2: Was it the pressure? You think he rolled out? No,
Speaker 2: he had to. He rolled out of the pocket the
Speaker 2: one he brought in the end Z on that Carlton
Speaker 2: Davis got.
Speaker 1: No, that picked up that.
Speaker 2: There was no pressure on him. He had an easy throw.
Speaker 2: He even directed and told him. And I don't know
Speaker 2: why he didn't put put it more on the line
Speaker 2: because carl David seeds that he's beat, so he's running
Speaker 2: full speed. The last thing you want him to do
Speaker 2: is have an opportunity to break that ball up when
Speaker 2: he's that wide open. I know you don't want to
Speaker 2: overshoot him, but you got to put it more on
Speaker 2: the line. Yeah. We still have more questions than answers
Speaker 2: about the Houston Texans. They've lost three of the last four.
Speaker 2: The turnovers are starting to mount. CJ is starting to
Speaker 2: turn the ball over a lot more than than he
Speaker 2: even did last year, and they're good team. They're a
Speaker 2: really good team that didn't run the ball particularly well tonight.
Speaker 2: Give Detroit a credit because they got a good defensive front.
Speaker 2: Now that was they played that game without z Zadarius Smith.
Speaker 2: But when you look at McNeil and Pascal, they clogged
Speaker 2: that middle. They do a great job of collapsing interior.
Speaker 2: Now when they get z he's gonna bring the heat
Speaker 2: off the edge.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna be see on passing downs.
Speaker 2: And their secondary is improving game by game. Branch and
Speaker 2: Joseph and those guys, they're getting better and better and better.
Speaker 1: They're getting better. We got to get tyrry On Arnold
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more patient, be a little
Speaker 1: more patient look back for the ball. Too many, too
Speaker 1: many pass interference plays, too many holding, twenty holding plies.
Speaker 1: Every single game, he's getting called for something, sometimes two
Speaker 1: and three a game.
Speaker 2: They might have could have got him on that last
Speaker 2: play that on that third down, they could have easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could have called it easily. They let it go. Though,
Speaker 1: they let it go. They didn't want that to be
Speaker 1: the deciding factor, you know, in the game, in the game.
Speaker 1: But he, I mean, he gotta work. He got to
Speaker 1: work on that, you know, using your eyes, man, playing
Speaker 1: playing with your eyes instincts, and stop being so handsy
Speaker 1: and look back for the ball a little bit. Look
Speaker 1: back for the ball some of them. You know, it's
Speaker 1: different if you look back. I know most dbs they
Speaker 1: panic when they can't see and they see the receiver's
Speaker 1: eyes get big. But if you look back for the
Speaker 1: ball early, man, and keep yourself position, nine times out
Speaker 1: of ten, you'll be able to make play on the
Speaker 1: ball and most of the time be able to pick it.
Speaker 2: Yep. And I think the thing is ocho. I'm watching
Speaker 2: this game. The Lions offensive coordinator got afraid to call
Speaker 2: his game. They were started just handing the ball off
Speaker 2: the Gibbs and handing the ball off to Montgomery. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: it's thirty seven, y'all let the fifty yard line and
Speaker 2: y'all hand the ball off a straight dive because they
Speaker 2: had gotten I mean, I'm looking at some of those interceptions.
Speaker 2: Ain't no whar in hell God thought those guys were open.
Speaker 2: This guys wasn't even close to be an open o. Joe.
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, look I get it. You know, It's
Speaker 2: it's kind of like it's like anything else, O Joe.
Speaker 2: You know, you get a touchdown, it's easier to get
Speaker 2: another touchdown. You know, you get a sack, it's easy
Speaker 2: to get another sack. Because normally we say things happen
Speaker 2: in bunches. You know, you get a bunch of sacks,
Speaker 2: you get a bunch of catches, you get a bunch
Speaker 2: of touchdown. Same thing with an interception. Guy throws one,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he throws another. Damn, that's
Speaker 2: two in another And in his mind he's like, well, hey,
Speaker 2: I might who just keep slinging it. But but the
Speaker 2: lions in the court that said, hell nah, because you're
Speaker 2: killing us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, most definitely. That's why he stopped. That's why
Speaker 1: he stopped calling the normal offense, in which so how
Speaker 1: can we get the ball out of Golf's hands until
Speaker 1: we feel he's a little bit more comfortable.
Speaker 2: They started screening him, screening him to death. They throw
Speaker 2: this wing to have your gibbs on one side, on
Speaker 2: one side on the offset of the quarterback, and they
Speaker 2: running behind and throw it to him so he'll get
Speaker 2: some a great block. They run a jail break screen
Speaker 2: to armand Saint Brian for the touchdown. They started doing
Speaker 2: everything they could. Hey, one two three, throw the ball.
Speaker 1: That's perfect, though. You know, you know what Ben Johnson
Speaker 1: is doing when he does that.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 1: Let's get golf a little, Let's get him comfortable again.
Speaker 1: Let's get him in rhythm with some easy throwers, get
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands, and get.
Speaker 2: Whatever to think, o Joe, Because you're thinking too much now,
Speaker 2: So yeah, right away one two three, a screen one
Speaker 2: two three, jail break one two three, quick out one
Speaker 2: two three, stick route. I don't want you thinking because
Speaker 2: you killing us. As a matter of fact, you probably
Speaker 2: hurt your damnself too, because you don't say I was
Speaker 2: thinking about something. I hope you don't hurt yourself. Now.
Speaker 2: Don't look at him like, bro, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: What do you seem? But this is a good team, Ojoe.
Speaker 2: When you can go on the road and you turned
Speaker 2: them all over five times and you still come away
Speaker 2: with a victory, this is a good team. This is
Speaker 2: a very good team. They're very well coached. They did
Speaker 2: not pay it, you know, Campbell, I couldn't hear what
Speaker 2: he said, but I think I could try to read
Speaker 2: his lips. I think he said about defense need to
Speaker 2: come out here and shut him down the first drive
Speaker 2: and ride on. Shoot, Cal Davis gets a pig and
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden we got Now we got
Speaker 2: a ball game. What a lead that could have been extended.
Speaker 2: It could have been twenty sixty seven, it could have
Speaker 2: been thirty to seven. Now all of a sudden boom.
Speaker 2: But hell, if I'm not mistaken, what do you call him?
Speaker 2: Come back and give it right back to him? He
Speaker 2: throw it in through an interception. Yeah, golf did he
Speaker 2: did not play well.
Speaker 1: To not not at all.
Speaker 2: It was a sloppy game. It's funny.
Speaker 1: It's probably makes no sense. It was a sloppy game, but.
Speaker 2: It was a good game at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the forty nine has defeated the Bucks twenty three to twenty.
Speaker 2: In the return of Christian McCaffrey. The forty nine ers
Speaker 2: emerged victorious with the biggest story of the side was
Speaker 2: on the sideline with a scuffle between Deebo Samuel long
Speaker 2: snapper Tabor Pepper. After the game, d Boy explained what
Speaker 2: prompting the heat exchange occurred after kicker Jake Moody's third
Speaker 2: missfield goal of the game. Normally, I don't even get
Speaker 2: like that, but just frustrated in the heat of the battle,
Speaker 2: you know, real close game. I kind of got out
Speaker 2: of character. But I'll talk to Moody and we'll get
Speaker 2: past it. Moody responded with a rough outing by drilling
Speaker 2: a forty four yard game winning field goal.
Speaker 1: As time got to loosen everything up, got to loosen
Speaker 1: everything up. As a kicker, you got one job, got
Speaker 1: nothing else. You do one thing, five, six, seven, eight
Speaker 1: days out the week. I'm talking about eight days. It's
Speaker 1: only seven.
Speaker 2: All you got to do.
Speaker 1: You got one job is to kick. So when they
Speaker 1: ask you to do that one job that you do,
Speaker 1: do you know you're gonna miss. You're human, It's the NFL.
Speaker 1: You know you want to be as perfect as possible.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why you practice. You know, if you
Speaker 1: fall short of being perfect, it'd be better than most.
Speaker 1: But you can't miss three kicks that could have cast
Speaker 1: you the game today. Three come on that most of
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wrong.
Speaker 1: Boss is a receiver likelihood you unless you're a number
Speaker 1: one elite player, probably not gonna be playing.
Speaker 2: But what happens if Debo fumbled the ball and they
Speaker 2: lose the game and the guy goes up there and
Speaker 2: grabs his pace mask. What if he drops two passes
Speaker 2: on the last drive and we lose the game, he
Speaker 2: grabs his page mass when he gets in this pace
Speaker 2: you think Devo.
Speaker 1: Will be cool.
Speaker 2: So that's why you have to lo and I get it. Look,
Speaker 2: you and i've both been on the sidelines. We've seen
Speaker 2: kickers miss it, We've seen you know, guys do things,
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's frustrated. It is extremely frustrated. But you
Speaker 2: also have to understand now, the way football work. In
Speaker 2: the football gods, they'll put you in that situation to
Speaker 2: have you drop a path or they have you right
Speaker 2: every time. They get you right time. Yeah, but like
Speaker 2: I said, look, I know they're frustrated. They're not having
Speaker 2: the season that they expected. They're five and four. I
Speaker 2: can assure you that the forty nine ers thought they
Speaker 2: would be better than five and four every time.
Speaker 1: It's funny, but.
Speaker 2: They got damn forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: They always going to f and run when it counts.
Speaker 2: This is the first time they went back to back game,
Speaker 2: so they couldn't be only something who The forty nine
Speaker 2: ers got next next two to three games lash they
Speaker 2: got Seahawks at home at Packers, at Bills.
Speaker 1: Seahawks at Packers and Bills.
Speaker 2: Oh who's.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm all them? All them tricky. I'm playing the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: What Seahawks, What Seahawks team? Are we gonna get?
Speaker 2: You know? Man Seahawks been I mean Gino been putting
Speaker 2: up big numbers. He's been turned down league un passing
Speaker 2: Ainty he was, yeah, he was. I mean, Party's gonna
Speaker 2: be up there, knocked the well. Gino had a big down.
Speaker 2: I think Gino had a big game when they play
Speaker 2: Monday night. No, they were on a bi week. See
Speaker 2: it was on the buy. See them was on the buy.
Speaker 2: But uh, Party had had an outstanding day. He was
Speaker 2: twenty five or thirty six, three fifty three excuse me,
Speaker 2: two touchdowns, clean game, no turnovers. Uh he fumbled but
Speaker 2: Jennings got it, ended up recovery. Yeah. On had a
Speaker 2: good game today. By he was balling Jenny yea yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. Piersall had a big day. Four for seventy
Speaker 2: three and a touchdown his first touchdown. Cee Matt came
Speaker 2: back six catches sixty six yards. Dbo was five for
Speaker 2: sixty two and Kittle great touchdown. Party did a great
Speaker 2: job of finding him in the back of the end zone.
Speaker 2: No show he had. He had three for fifty seven
Speaker 2: and a touchdown. Piersall had four for seventy three on
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Yeah, I mean, but this is the type
Speaker 2: of game that pretty needed because they were unable to
Speaker 2: run the football. Russ versus the Rugs Steelers get to
Speaker 2: win against the Commanders twenty eight twenty seven. At halftime,
Speaker 2: the Steelers had ninety seven yards of total offense. They
Speaker 2: finished with three hundred and twelve. Russ was inconsistent. He
Speaker 2: was fourteen to fifty eight, fourteen of twenty eight, one
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety five yards, three tds and one I int. Daniels,
Speaker 2: who ended the game as an MVP candidate, did not
Speaker 2: have his best game, completed sixteen to thirty two, one
Speaker 2: nine one hundred ninety four yards. Yeah, he missed a
Speaker 2: couple of throws that he liked to have back. He
Speaker 2: had Luke McCaffrey on a crossing route that he really
Speaker 2: would really, really would love to have that one back.
Speaker 2: But give Russ's credit because Russ's I think at one
Speaker 2: point was like nine of twenty, but he picked it up.
Speaker 2: George Pickens made some big time plays and Friar Muth
Speaker 2: came up clutch for him. Madson big time plays. Austin
Speaker 2: had a couple of big catches and they were able
Speaker 2: to go on the row Man, I'm watching this game on, Joe.
Speaker 2: Did you see how many people raving them terrible towels? Yeah? Hey, listen,
Speaker 2: I said, hung On, I'm like, you got to go
Speaker 2: back and look, i gotta see it. This is this
Speaker 2: is Washington on this in three in Pittsford.
Speaker 1: When the Steelers play away, they travel extremely well. So
Speaker 1: wherever they play at basically it's their stadium. The Steelers
Speaker 1: Steelers will make it their stadium, no matter how far,
Speaker 1: no matter how far they're playing, it don't matter.
Speaker 2: You know why wout yo, Because the Steelers were really
Speaker 2: good in the seventies and a lot of people right now,
Speaker 2: they got kids, They grew up watching the Steelers. They
Speaker 2: became Steelers fans, and a lot of times kids become
Speaker 2: fans like their pants are the teams that their parts
Speaker 2: groupe right right, right right, So when you go you're
Speaker 2: absolutely right when you go on the road. I'm looking,
Speaker 2: I'm like, hold on, Washington got the ball? Why the
Speaker 2: crowd is in a frenzy. Why they're waving the towers.
Speaker 2: I said, Washington, don't raise no tiwer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was like, let me go. I said,
Speaker 1: they take it there, take a stay, take the stadium over,
Speaker 1: take your airport.
Speaker 2: And oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good game, though it was it
Speaker 1: was now looking. I was listening to some of the
Speaker 1: command of fans. They were upset about taking the ale today.
Speaker 1: Do y'all realize, y'all at the top of the division.
Speaker 1: Do you realize you just lost only your third game?
Speaker 1: Do you realize the quarterback.
Speaker 2: That you do have at the helm?
Speaker 1: You have a decade plus some of winning football with
Speaker 1: him as your quarterback. You have nothing to hang your
Speaker 1: head on about losing today. It's cool, It's cool. I'm
Speaker 1: happy for rus though three starts, he's three and oh.
Speaker 1: A lot of people questioned Mike Tomlin putting him back
Speaker 1: in as a starter.
Speaker 2: Yep, but at you.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it a gamble, but the gamble that
Speaker 1: most people say it is, it's paying off.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And he said it himself. Yeah, oh Jo,
Speaker 2: he said it himself. He was a lone ranger on
Speaker 2: this decision.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, okay, but and he.
Speaker 2: Said, but he also said, this is why they paid
Speaker 2: me the big bucks to make these decisions. And I can.
Speaker 2: I'm able to stand. And the one thing that you
Speaker 2: know about the Steelers organization, they're always going to back
Speaker 2: their head coach. Yeah, that's why they've only had three
Speaker 2: since nineteen sixty nine. They had Chuck No, they head
Speaker 2: coach Kaward, and now they have Mike t There's a
Speaker 2: reason they're not swayed by the media. They're not swayed
Speaker 2: by the fans talking about fire this and fire that.
Speaker 2: That's not how the Rudies operate that. But uh, the
Speaker 2: Steelers run their record. They sit firmly atop the nf
Speaker 2: the AFC North with a seventy two record, but they
Speaker 2: haven't played any division games. They got two games against Baltimore,
Speaker 2: two games against Cleveland, two games against Cincinnati. We're gonna
Speaker 2: find out a lot more. We're gonna find a lot
Speaker 2: more about the Steelers, a lot more about the Ravens,
Speaker 2: and a lot more about the Bengals over the next
Speaker 2: six weeks. Because I think they got I think they
Speaker 2: in the next six weeks, O Joe, I think they
Speaker 2: got the Ravens wife and the Bengals twice.
Speaker 1: Hey, I mean, I'm thinking about the damn still is
Speaker 1: sitting at the top of the goddamn yes she North
Speaker 1: and who who ever thought last year you didn't even
Speaker 1: have a quarterback. No, last year you didn't have a quarterback.
Speaker 1: And you know you're bringing Russell Wilson, you're bringing Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: Then you have too so I'm thinking, well, hell, they
Speaker 1: got a quarterback carself going on, they definitely gonna be
Speaker 1: lasting in the division. This is how I'm thinking as
Speaker 1: a player, because I agree when there's quarterback controversy, it's
Speaker 1: too much. It's too much turmoil. It's too much going
Speaker 1: on because one time they'll put one in and he
Speaker 1: might not play well because there's pressure because he knows, damn,
Speaker 1: I can't make any mistakes because if I'm make any mistakes,
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna put old boy in them. So
Speaker 1: you're not able to play freely. You play very conservative football.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, yeah, they're still they don't be none today,
Speaker 1: But Justin Field surprised me. The first three weeks. They
Speaker 1: might have went at some point when they put Russell in,
Speaker 1: but Justin Fields played well. Now I sho get the
Speaker 1: goddamn job, he said to.
Speaker 2: Him, and he cooking, Yeah, cooking so to look good
Speaker 2: based on that. The thing is that but in order
Speaker 2: for this to be a success, Justin had to do
Speaker 2: what he was doing, because imagine if he goes over
Speaker 2: so now all of a sudden, you're trying to get
Speaker 2: to five hundred instead of being seventy two. Mike Tomlin
Speaker 2: knows his team. He's around this team. He knew how
Speaker 2: his team will respond. He knew he was making a very,
Speaker 2: very tough decision, but he knew that he had the
Speaker 2: type of guys in the locker room that would back
Speaker 2: his decision because they trust him. He's giving them no
Speaker 2: reason not to trust him. The organization trusts him, and
Speaker 2: so we should have had faith. I should have had
Speaker 2: faith in Mike Tomlin knowing over the last seventeen eighteen
Speaker 2: years he's been nothing but exemplary. Mike Tomlin would ask
Speaker 2: post game about the similarity is the difference between Jade
Speaker 2: and Daniels and Lamar Jackson. Man be real slow comparing
Speaker 2: people to Lamar Jackson. That's a multi time that's a
Speaker 2: multi time MVP. That's mister Jackson. We'll see mister Jackson
Speaker 2: in a few days. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't compare the two now that there are
Speaker 1: two things that they do are like they can run
Speaker 1: the ball, they can throw the ball, but they two
Speaker 1: completely different type of players all together.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, look, just because somebody is black and
Speaker 2: they can run the football and throw the football, that'll
Speaker 2: mean the lamar. Let's get to this game. The Chiefs
Speaker 2: stay undefeated with a block field goal. The chief leads
Speaker 2: the NFL in seven one possession wins this season. The
Speaker 2: most one score game by the eventional Super Bowl chap
Speaker 2: is nine, both by the twenty fifteen Broncos and the
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six Giants.
Speaker 1: Hey, Broncos played good. Hey can I tell you.
Speaker 2: Didn't I tell you that we had a conversation, said, Oh,
Speaker 2: I would be surprised. I'm not gonna say nothing.
Speaker 1: They got damn Broncos d The boys played goods.
Speaker 2: Yes, they always play.
Speaker 1: This is a vision game. This is an a visional game,
Speaker 1: and most of the time when you play within the division,
Speaker 1: the games are always close. Again, the Chiefs looked like
Speaker 1: they look They've looked the entirety of the season, always
Speaker 1: fighting in a way to win. It's unfortunate. But the
Speaker 1: Broncos should have won this game today and what it can't?
Speaker 1: You know, obviously it came down to a block field
Speaker 1: goal field goal at the end. And I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: you slide. I'm gonna let you slide because I was
Speaker 1: gonna say if your team lost the day, I don't
Speaker 1: want but listen, listen, I'm, I'm, I'm. I don't have
Speaker 1: the energy right now.
Speaker 2: You know you know why.
Speaker 1: I don't have the energy right now. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let you slide tonight and just say that it was
Speaker 1: it was a good game, and it was a good game,
Speaker 1: even though I was impressed with the Broncos defense.
Speaker 2: You got a heavy heart right now and a lot
Speaker 2: on your mind. I do understand.
Speaker 1: No, I don't got no heavy heart. I don't know
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: You gotta heavy heart. You gotta hear me.
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me take let me take my shades
Speaker 1: off so you can see my ass. I'm good, right,
Speaker 1: yeah me.
Speaker 2: You don't mean it, Remember what I told you?
Speaker 1: I mean listen, can't stay with me real quick?
Speaker 2: Right? No, we don't get right football, okay.
Speaker 1: You know how to compartmentalize, right, yeah, how to manage
Speaker 1: your expectations right based on situation. Right, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: leave it at that. Let's talk about the game.
Speaker 2: I'm good now, you're then fire the coach, you're the
Speaker 2: demoted the office coordinator. Well, the defense gave up thirty
Speaker 2: one where you know the office is allowed to score
Speaker 2: more than since absolutely, because that's the one thing I
Speaker 2: like about football. It's not like when you play one
Speaker 2: on one, you play make it, take it. I'll make
Speaker 2: a basket. I get to take it back out again.
Speaker 2: Now in football, I scored touch that I kick it off.
Speaker 2: You can score too.
Speaker 1: But they're not gonna have they gonna they're gonna have nobody.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody nobody else to fire, ain't nobody else to blame.
Speaker 1: You fight it, Sallah.
Speaker 2: See. The thing is that you gotta be careful. You
Speaker 2: gotta be careful when you do things for the wrong reasons. See.
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of this have to do
Speaker 2: and a lot of this have to do with him
Speaker 2: being mad at the Packers for drafting Jordan Love. So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go show you that I still got something left. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if you're not, oh Joe, You've heard me say it
Speaker 2: a lot. If you're not careful, you'll become the bad
Speaker 2: thing you despise the most of the person the guy
Speaker 2: that preceded him, What did he do? He got mad
Speaker 2: because they took a quarterback. And where did he go first?
Speaker 2: When he left Green Bay?
Speaker 1: That's the same thing, same same thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, Devontae Adams had thirteen targets. He got six
Speaker 2: passes for thirty one yards.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: You're probably thinking I could have stayed where I was,
Speaker 2: did exactly this and kept I think the state income
Speaker 2: tax in Jersey New York wherever it is about ten percent.
Speaker 2: I pay nothing. The state income tax in New York.
Speaker 2: New Jersey's got to be like ten percent. Ten whoy?
Speaker 1: I can I catch you? I'll catch all the end
Speaker 1: of my career. I'll pay you back later.
Speaker 2: What's that? Jersey is ten point seventy five almost eleven
Speaker 2: because he stays in Jersey, so we don't have to
Speaker 2: do New York. But he stays in Jersey. Nobody stays
Speaker 2: in the city. New York's eleven. So he's playing ten
Speaker 2: on that ten ten point seven five percent. Well you
Speaker 2: know how that is? Yeah, hide in giraffe. Huhuh. But
Speaker 2: here's the thing, Oh show That's the thing. You just think,
Speaker 2: see what Peyton, because remember when Peyton to Denver, they
Speaker 2: went thirteen and three, they won like seven eight games
Speaker 2: in a row, had the number one seed. Baltimore did
Speaker 2: come in and knock them off into the Divisional round.
Speaker 2: Peyton finished second and the MVPVO. Then the next year
Speaker 2: they go to the Super Bowl. Peyton, they break all
Speaker 2: the records. Peyton over fifty four hundred pass the yards,
Speaker 2: NFL record, fifty five touchdown NFL record, go to the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. The following year, Peyton throws thirty nine touchdowns.
Speaker 2: We see what Tom does his first year there, so
Speaker 2: we're like, hey, they do it. Aaron, those are two
Speaker 2: natural born leaders. Natural people gravitate towards them.
Speaker 1: You don't see Aaron as a leader, huh? I mean
Speaker 1: just your own personal opinion outside of the dump.
Speaker 2: All I know is what i've what I've read, what
Speaker 2: I've read with coaches. Okay, I see what you mean now, coach,
Speaker 2: excuse me what I've read. When the reports about the CEO,
Speaker 2: Mark Murphy, Aaron, don't you be the problem. They don't
Speaker 2: consult with him. They didn't consult with him when they hired.
Speaker 2: They didn't consult with him when they let somebody go.
Speaker 2: Damn the matter of fact of how he does things.
Speaker 2: When Mike Williams, oh, I would expect the Mike Williams
Speaker 2: to do this, and he read line and he was
Speaker 2: supposed to red line.
Speaker 1: He got, Bro, why would you do you can't throw
Speaker 1: you play under the bus?
Speaker 2: Why would you do that? Name the time you've ever
Speaker 2: heard Peyton Manny name the time you've ever heard Peyton
Speaker 2: or Tom Brady, Because this is the guy that he
Speaker 2: wants to be in the category with. When if Tom
Speaker 2: Brady ever throw somebody under the house, When does Peyton
Speaker 2: Manny ever throw somebody? Every time they'll eat it and
Speaker 2: then have the conversation with the guys like, look, you know,
Speaker 2: I would expect you to be on the red line right,
Speaker 2: not run the end cut? Yeah, every chance he gets,
Speaker 2: what does he do? You saw him in Green Bay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, mm hmm. He speaking of Mike being on the
Speaker 1: red line. You know they had that exact same play today, Mike. Oh,
Speaker 1: Mike had just had that exact same play today with
Speaker 1: the cover zero in. The corners were sitting there squad
Speaker 1: waiting on the slant, waiting quick roll.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you can't stand that far inside. You can't
Speaker 2: give a receiver with that cat of pre release to
Speaker 2: let him.
Speaker 1: Just run right up the field and he's standing in
Speaker 1: the inside, which made it even worse.
Speaker 2: It pushed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, side, Yeah, that was a good player. That was
Speaker 1: a good player.
Speaker 2: Bout Mike. These guys here, oh yo, these guys are
Speaker 2: too good if you don't put hands on them. Oh
Speaker 2: but he remember his cover zero, so he was off.
Speaker 2: Remember he was.
Speaker 1: He was saying he was sitting off.
Speaker 2: Yes, but oh Joe, you can't be that far. He
Speaker 2: was tripping because he think about it. You already two
Speaker 2: guards inside. If he stem you inside, now you're gonna
Speaker 2: be three to four. You give that guy so much
Speaker 2: area to just throw the ball, and Rus throws as
Speaker 2: good as deep ball as they called it, a little
Speaker 2: moon ball. You you ain't got no chance to recover.
Speaker 2: I don't care how fast you is. No, No, you
Speaker 2: can't come from that. And you get he give him
Speaker 2: a big target because he got all this to drop
Speaker 2: it over. He can't. He ain't got to drop it
Speaker 2: down what we call trying to. He don't have to
Speaker 2: drop it down to Kimney. I got a big old
Speaker 2: radius that I can throw it into I can throw
Speaker 2: it here. I can throw it here, I can let
Speaker 2: you catch it over here, because I'm not worried about
Speaker 2: the dB is it's so far behind. And then if
Speaker 2: I throw it over his shoulder, I can use my body,
Speaker 2: O Joe, He's got to come through me to break
Speaker 2: the play up. Yeah, but I don't think it. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. Maybe Jeff's fans are surprised,
Speaker 2: but I'm not.
Speaker 1: Hell I'm surprised. Honestly, I thought I thought, I thought
Speaker 1: things would have been different. I was giving Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: his praise for what I felt he was going to
Speaker 1: be able to do on the field. I didn't really
Speaker 1: care about the stuff he was doing off of it.
Speaker 1: You know, do whatever the hell you want too off
Speaker 1: of it. But I'm thinkingful he has I'm expecting him
Speaker 1: to look like maybe not that Aaron Rodgers of Bowl.
Speaker 1: Just give me fifty percent of that, give me fifty
Speaker 1: fifty sixty percent of the old Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: And I thought, you know, the.
Speaker 1: Jets, they're gonna be on one, they gonna be fighting.
Speaker 2: Well. He talked about he talked about Kyne Water and
Speaker 2: living how that work out for him today. Cayenne, Yeah,
Speaker 2: cayenne water, kayene pepper, water and lemon or. It is
Speaker 2: the fountain of you. Even had to even had the
Speaker 2: kicker that drill the field go oh yeah, this thing
Speaker 2: is working. Bro, That stuff don't work. Look, I understand
Speaker 2: all that cleans and you go to these holistic places
Speaker 2: and they give you all that stuff that I get it.
Speaker 1: I ain't never heard of no cayenne. I know about
Speaker 1: the poorest cayenne.
Speaker 2: Kaye pepper. They put kayee pepper and they put water, lemon.
Speaker 2: I mean, what what did what?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What was he had? And somebody instrumt I've discovered the
Speaker 2: fountain of you. Bro. Clearly you don't watch your t
Speaker 2: play because the ain't nothing useful about you. Ain't nothing.
Speaker 2: I'm not breaking any new chat. Do y'all think there's
Speaker 2: anything useful about Aaron Rodgers play? Does he kyenne pepper water?
Speaker 2: Does he move like he once did? Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: The volume