1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Full Circle is an iheartwoman's sports production and partnership with 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Hey everybody, Hey y'all, this is Lexi Brown here and 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: I'm here with my girl Mariaros, and welcome to Full 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: Circle Podcasts. 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: This is episode one. 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Yes, and we're going to get into why we're starting 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: this and why it is so important. 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: And I'm so excited me too, because I've had a 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: lot to say and I've been taking a Twitter break guy, 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: so I've been able to compile my thoughts a lot, 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: and now I have my own platform to express my 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: feelings and this is like my dream come true. 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: I know, I can't wait. First of all, let's talk 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: about what led us to do this and to give 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: you and I this platform to talk about women's sports 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: in a way that isn't the way that we've been 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: so frustrated with seeing it as of recently. 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: For me being a player and then hearing from Maria 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: who's a media member slash fan, I just feel like 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: the dialogue around women's basketball has been completely commandeered by 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: men and men that have no idea what they're talking. 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: About, men that are not fans. 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: And let me take that back, because I feel like 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: our fans, the new fans, they feel attacked at times 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: because they are new, like little. 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: Babies, like people are gatekeeping it from Yeah. 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: I have a little bit of grace for the new fans. Welcome, 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: love that you're here. I hope you stay. 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: It's fun. 32 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: We're not talking about them. 33 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: We're not talking about them. 34 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're We're not attacking them, the new fans. We're 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: attacking the people who are acting like there are some 36 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: sort of experts on women's basketball because they decided to 37 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: cover it when one, two or three players came to 38 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: the league, and they only cover those specific situations. 39 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: Right, And I just feel like there are so many 40 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: players in this league that deserve being highlighted, their stories 41 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: being told. And also I feel like the game of 42 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: women's basketball needs to be covered objectively and with statistics 43 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: and facts and not just opinions. And I feel like 44 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 2: this entire summer, I was just hearing opinion after opinion, 45 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: and now no one really even knows what's going. 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: On, and it's clickbait, like people want to talk about 47 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: the biggest situation in controversy that's happening and not really 48 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: what's happening on the core or the most talent or 49 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: the actual finals matchups, trying to create controversy out of 50 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: nothing to give them a reason to be talking about 51 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: women's basketball. But it's really like, what's happening on the 52 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: court and the games are enough, Like we don't have 53 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: to create a controversy out of thin air just so 54 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: you can have this clickbaity moment to talk about something. 55 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: It's like and storylines doesn't mean drama, and drama doesn't 56 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: mean controversy. Like drama and storylines can exist within the 57 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: confines of a sport and it doesn't have to exceed that. 58 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: It doesn't even have to leave the lines. And I 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: think that's something especially as women. They're like, you, guys 60 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: all need to be competitive, but then like also hold 61 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: hands in patty cake and braise each other's hair, But 62 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: still we want you to compete at a high level, 63 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: and that's just simply not what we have to do 64 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: or need to do well. 65 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: At the same time, I feel like, because y'all are 66 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: women playing and there is a level of competition, and 67 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: drama does just come with sports naturally that when there 68 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: is that sort of competitive fire that the WNBA has 69 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: always had, it comes off as quote unquote jealousy or 70 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: caddy or yeah, we're hating. 71 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: And lease eliminate that word hating and hater. We are 72 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: the best basketball players on earth. We are all out 73 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: here living our dreams. If you guys think we're hating 74 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: that it's crazy to think about that. You are making 75 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: us second guess what we're doing day in and day out, 76 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: which is chasing our dreams. 77 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: Like, I want that word to be thrown away. 78 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: Where do you think it comes from. I can even see, 79 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: like with us starting this platform and saying we want 80 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: to take back the conversation of covering women's basketball from 81 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: people actually pay attention and are actually fans and want 82 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: the best for women's basketball, I feel like that even 83 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: could come off to some people as like being a 84 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: hater trying to take the conversation back. But why do 85 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: you think that's always what the label is? 86 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: Honestly, I just think it's a word people used to 87 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: describe women, but in a completely different way than they 88 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: use it to describe a man like I. Just this year, 89 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: honestly was the first time I've seen that word thrown 90 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 2: around as much as it was in sports, in sports, 91 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: and in women's sports in particular, and it's like you 92 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: come on the wings of women supporting women and women empowerment. 93 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: But every time someone does something well or gets something like, 94 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: y'all are all mad. 95 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 3: No, that's not the case. 96 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: But do you have to be like up in arms 97 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: excited about every single thing? 98 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: No. 99 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: Can you be happy for people in your little corner 100 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: over here, yes, absolutely, But for women it's like everyone 101 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: hastuf like a huge sign of we're so proud of 102 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: da da da da da when we've been supporting behind 103 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: the scenes for years. But because you guys, people don't 104 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: see it in your face all the time. And I 105 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: think even me, I get caught up in that. Sometimes 106 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: if I don't see the support like thrown in my face, 107 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: I'm assuming that I'm not being supported. And that's not 108 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: the case either. And that's like something that I've had 109 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: to grow up and realize that support isn't always like 110 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: thrown in your face all the time. 111 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: Well. Also, being involved in sports, it's like you all 112 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: have a level of competitive nature and it's like, why 113 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: because it's a women's league, is it expected to have 114 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: this like kumba y'ah, we're all women supporting women, blah 115 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: bah blah. When it's like low key, with the exception 116 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: of your teammates, everyone else is kind of your competition. 117 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: Even your own teammates are your competition. 118 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: R exactly, We're all competing for a spot at the 119 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: end of the day, and only half of the spots 120 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: are guaranteed in the w wow. So you come into 121 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: training camp on a non guaranteed contract, Yes, your teammates 122 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: are your competition. Those are your sisters, and those eventually 123 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: will be your teammates and your family. But them training camp, 124 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: we can have two weeks alwa's up for everybody. I 125 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: didn't realize that's been my reality this year or eight 126 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: my first season on a guaranteed deal. 127 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: And you're like, haha, I don't have to compete exactly. 128 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: But I've seen people with guarantee contracts get waved too. 129 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: So it's wow. 130 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 2: It's cutthroat, And I don't think people truly understand how 131 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: hard it is to make a WNBA roster. And I've 132 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: said that before and people are like listening, it hard 133 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: to make any type of professional team roster. Yes, it is, 134 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 2: but the rules are different, the guarantees are different, the 135 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: money is different, the length of the season is different, 136 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: the lifestyle is different. So I just feel like this 137 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: platform is going to be a good way for us 138 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: to break it down for people, and to bring other 139 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: players and people involved in women's basketball to break it 140 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: down for other people and just see so many different 141 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: perspectives and point of view, which I think that's what's lacking. 142 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: One thing I'm so excited about for us doing this 143 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: is the lowering the rams conversation. Brother, I feel like 144 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: every time a women's basketball player is on a podcast 145 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: or on a media platform, it comes up every time. 146 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 3: Every single time. 147 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, if you have thirty minutes with Asia Wilson, 148 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: why would you even speak about that with her? 149 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: Why this is the best player in the world who 150 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: can dunk on a ten foot rim, by the way, crazy, 151 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: And then when the girls. 152 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 3: Do dunk, it's not a good enough dunk. 153 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I was just talking on TikTok about 154 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: Ashton Watkins dunking the other day and I was like, see, like, 155 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: they don't need to lower the rims. They can dunk 156 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: if they want to. Everyone's like, well, if you have 157 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: to make a whole video highlighting the fact that she dunked. 158 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: Then it's not that special. 159 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: I'm like what I'm saying, so like y'all thinking that 160 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: that would change everything about basketball, changing the rim, it 161 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: would change our shots, it would change everything. 162 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: Just for y'all to not be happy anyway, Please. 163 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 1: Buy and listen. No teen, no shade. But they dunk 164 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: in the NBA. The NBA doesn't need to lower the rims, 165 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: and people weren't watching it like they used to. 166 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: Hey, so what everyone's favorite players, most of them not 167 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: really dunking like that. 168 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: Being honest, Joam Marian literally told y'all he's not dunking 169 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: because he doesn't want. 170 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: To get it. He doesn't want to get injured. 171 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 2: So I'm like, but then proceeds to dunk all of 172 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: someone's head the next day. 173 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what that was about. 174 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: Steph Curry is my VERYIT player. He doesn't dunk. 175 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: Someone doesn't dunk. 176 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: Kyrie don't really dunk, Luca definitely don't be dunking. 177 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: Sga don't dunk. Okay, let's get back because this is 178 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: a women's basketball show. But that just proves our point. 179 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: The players that are in the talks for MVP, everyone's 180 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: favorite player selling all the jerseys. 181 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: They're not dunking like that, So y'all need to let 182 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: that go. Let that go. 183 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: Then when everybody's missing shots, left it right because the 184 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: rooms are too low. 185 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: Hey man, just know you put that on my page, 186 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: You're getting blocked. Immediately you say that to my face, 187 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna just look at you and we're gonna just 188 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: be looking at each other until you realize there's movement. 189 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: Now when w players like on podcasts and stuff and 190 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: somebody brings up the lowering the ram conversation, they just 191 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: stop talking and look at them. Speaking of opportunities, I 192 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: do want to talk about Athletes Unlimited because that is 193 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: a huge opportunity for so many people to get to play. 194 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: Could you explain a little bit about what it is. 195 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, Athlete so Unlimited is is the first off 196 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: season opportunity in the United States for professional women's basketball players. 197 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 2: And it is made up of forty players in a 198 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: pool of players, and you are. 199 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: On a leader board. So essentially there's only one winner. 200 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: There's a champion, and then you know, you get bonus 201 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: money for that, and then it trickles down one through 202 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: forty and what makes athletes Ulimited so different and special 203 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: is the scoring system, which is how you get. 204 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 3: Points on the leader board. 205 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: There's no coaches, which is amazing, which leads to the 206 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: best part, which is the switching of the teams based 207 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: on the captain. So you become a captain if you're 208 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: in spot one, two, three, or four. There's a draft 209 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: every week, so the teams change and essentially we just 210 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 2: out there having a time, free flowing basketball, no coaches, 211 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: just vibes, good energy, and a lot of scoring. 212 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 3: It's very high scoring. 213 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: That's my favorite part that the teams are differ every 214 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: single I'm like, I don't understand how going from being 215 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: in the w where you do have set teammates and 216 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: it's like you said, like not everything's guaranteed, but it's 217 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: kind of like who's going to be on your team 218 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and you have like 219 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: a system you're training for. How is it different training 220 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: for a situation where you don't really know who your 221 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: teammates are going to be. 222 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: Honestly, it's different in a good way because you get 223 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 2: to just train how you want to train, because you 224 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: get to just show up as your best self the 225 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: player that you want to be for that five weeks 226 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: that we're together, Whereas in the W if you're like, 227 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: for me, for example, like I'm the shooter, Okay, I 228 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: got to make sure my three point shot is on 229 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: point first and foremost, and then everything else can come secondary. 230 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: But at AU, like I mean, I still shoot threes, 231 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: but I typically ought to do a bunch of other 232 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: things that I normally wouldn't do because I don't got 233 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: a role in AU. 234 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: I'm just LEXI. 235 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 2: So it's fun to see players who I know very 236 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: well in the W like just completely break out of 237 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: their role and they come to AU and they're like 238 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: a completely different player in a good way. And then 239 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: they take that to the W and they just blossomed 240 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: every year. I love that it is a pipeline people, 241 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 2: It is a proven pipeline. 242 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: Wait, I need to hear more about this. 243 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: Let's see who is our most Our most recent All 244 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: Stars were Alicia Gray, who won season three of Athletes 245 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: So Limited. Kelsey Mitchell was in AU and became an 246 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: All Star before I got sick. I felt like I 247 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: was on my way to an All Star season fresh 248 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: off of AU season. So even if you don't get 249 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: voted as an All Star. I feel like there is 250 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: a direct correlation of people's performance from AU to the W. 251 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: It's like a breath of fresh air that's exciting. I 252 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 3: hope fans, and I hope. 253 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: When you come because Mariah coming to Nashville, I hope 254 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: you see like the energy being a little different. 255 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: Have you been with W Bacon Yeah? Okay, other than 256 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 3: All Star? Yes, yes, because All Star was lit. 257 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been with you. I'm not fair Weather okay, okay? 258 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: Or who did you go watch play in Atlanta? Because 259 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: you live in Atlanta? Oh okay? 260 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 261 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: Their games are popping. 262 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 263 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: The rebrand of the Atlanta Dream is very impressive. 264 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: And they've got their own arena. 265 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I grew up in Atlanta going to Dream Games. 266 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: When Angel mccattrey was there and they played in the 267 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 2: Big Arena, it was pretty full in there. They went 268 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: to the Eastern Conference finals. I think that was back 269 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: when they were still conferences. So much has changed in 270 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: the W, and I think people really don't understand how 271 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: much progress there's been and how much change has been 272 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: made in a good way because you've been tapped in 273 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: I grew up around the WNBA. I've been in it 274 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: for eight years now, Like I wish people would just 275 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: stop trying to just every time there's something good that happens, 276 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: it's like there's a group of people just trying to 277 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: stomp it out. I don't like that because that's not 278 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: how you help things grow. And if people care about 279 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: it as much as they say they do, they're going 280 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: to applaud everything that's positive, whether it's your favorite player 281 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: or a player you can't stand at the end of 282 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: the day, like everything needs to be uplifted because it's 283 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: good for the and I think that's the mentality that's 284 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: missing within the w within the ownership, within front offices, 285 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,479 Speaker 2: and especially in the media. 286 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: I will say, I guess some people feel like all 287 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: publicity is good publicity. And I'm curious how you feel 288 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: about this, because I do think some people feel like 289 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: creating controversy is the way to get more eyes on 290 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: the game. I don't know how you feel about it, 291 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: but I'm like I go back and forth where I'm like, Okay, 292 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: at least people are talking about it, but I'm always wondering, 293 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, so when is this going to turn 294 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: into a positive thing? Because people always compare it to 295 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: like Bird and Magic at the very beginning of the 296 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: NBA becoming popular and like them having to create a 297 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: controversy there to make it popular. So do you feel 298 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: like that's going to evolve into something positive or it's 299 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: just like. 300 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: I think the thing with Bird and Magic was that 301 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: was just about who yeah, that's a good point. 302 00:13:52,920 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: Boston versus La Coast to coast Obviously the racial it yeah, no, 303 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: because there was the racial undertones of that obviously, but 304 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: at the end of the. 305 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: Day, it ended up just being about who yeah. 306 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 2: Those are two of the best players at the time, 307 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: at their peak, representing two different Americas, which those Americas 308 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: get united in the name of sports, and then you 309 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: take all that weird energy, that negative energy, and you 310 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: pour it into the game and it turned into something 311 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: iconic in a good way. 312 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: Magic was just on TV talking about it. 313 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: He's like, I can't stay in the Celtics, but I 314 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: love them, but when we in between them lines, I. 315 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: Hate you, and I think that's okay. 316 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: Like within the lines, we are not anybody but players 317 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: on that court trying to win a basketball game, and 318 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: I think for men, and we're hearing it all season 319 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: right now they're missing that, like everyone is complaining about it. 320 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: But then it's okay, here we are with this what 321 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: y'all are missing, and y'all are like killing us for it. 322 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: I'm curious, like as fans, like what do y'all really 323 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: want to see on the court, because I feel like, 324 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: because of social media, fans are just more vocal than 325 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: they've ever been about what they like what they don't like, 326 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: which is a good and a bad thing, because I 327 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: feel like now it's affecting like decision making, which I 328 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: don't think like that's always a good thing. But I 329 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: had to tell my coaches and gms last year, get 330 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: off Twitter. 331 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, get off of their. 332 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: Twitter is definitely the worst one. I will say. Being 333 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: on social media and in the sports space, one thing 334 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: I've noticed is I had to stop kind of worrying 335 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: or responding to the narratives about stuff because I'll see 336 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: something like everybody complaining about let's say, Kaitlin Clark getting 337 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: her jersey retired the same day as Asia Wilson and 338 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: like the response to that, and then I'll make a 339 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: video about the response. And I've realized, like people just 340 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: like to be negative about everything, like I think that 341 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: it varies platform to platform. But what I've noticed is 342 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: even in every sport right now, feels like the fan 343 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: bases take everything that happens as an opportunity to be 344 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: negative or to rag on players, or to rag on 345 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: the league, or to say something needs to be changed 346 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: because fans have a voice they never had before in 347 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: social media, and they've noticed, like the NBA All Star 348 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: Game changing because people are complaining about it, Like fancy 349 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: feel like if they complain, they have a voice and 350 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: they have a space and things. But it's also at 351 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: the same time, you have to realize as a fan, 352 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: you're not a player, you're not a GM, you're not 353 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: a professional, and you're talking about real people. 354 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: Like at the end of the days, we are not robots. 355 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: They're not athletic robots. It's just human beings. 356 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: It's really not that serious. So when you take it 357 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: past the line of oh, this person had a bad game, 358 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: like whatever, to the line of telling people to go 359 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: die or like death threats or like being really evil 360 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: or racist and stuff, that's where I draw the line. 361 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: But it's become so common now. 362 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's been that way in the NBA. If 363 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: you want to look at it have full That means 364 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: we've arrived. 365 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: Okay, we have arrived. 366 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: We have made it to the point where people are 367 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: on our heads on social media platforms no matter what. 368 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: Now we have to match this elevation with professionalism, with 369 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: maturity and sometimes you really just got to get off 370 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: the Internet. And it's easier said than done. But there's 371 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: no money on X. There's no money there for anybody. 372 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: And the only people making money on there are the 373 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: ones who are stirring up the pot constantly with lies, 374 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: with fake stories, fake narratives, like we don't know these people. 375 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: They can be putting out completely things that go against 376 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: everything that they really feel or believe for clicks, for retweets, 377 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: for engagement. So as WNBA players, I beg beg us 378 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: as a collective just get off, like you can't feed 379 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: into it anymore. And I was a huge clapbacker back 380 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: when X was a civil place. I loved going back 381 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 2: and forth the people because it was fun. It was 382 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: funny people didn't overstep boundaries or come for you in 383 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: like disrespectful ways, because at the end of the day, 384 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: we can't really come for people like that because we 385 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: will face consequences for that, Like some people are. 386 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: Very low hanging fruit. Yea very low hanging fruit. 387 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: But I'm just gonna leave it there because unlike people 388 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: online that hide behind pages, I have a consequence to face. 389 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: I have people watching me. I have brands watching me, 390 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: I have CEOs watching me. If they see me attacking 391 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: the person no profile picture with hatred and just disrespect, 392 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: like that's a bad look on my part no matter 393 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: what this person said. 394 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: There is a page Mariah an. 395 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: Ex page every day tweeted I will not rest until 396 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: Lexi Brown gets waved from the WNBA every day Maria 397 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: a tweet a day about that. Do you know how 398 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: like bored and strain well you. 399 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 3: Are in the head. 400 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: Someone sent it to me and I was like, how 401 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: how long did this go on? It was like some 402 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 2: weeks months? 403 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: But you know what, that's a compliment because every day 404 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: somebody woke up with you on their minds. 405 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: Is this real? 406 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: And again you have no idea who this person is. 407 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: It's kind of scary because it's just like where about 408 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: ops at? 409 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: I don't even know where my ops are. 410 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: It's worse now, like you have the pages that are 411 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: like just dedicated to a player or players like when 412 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: I see those I block them in media, like I 413 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: don't have time for those type of people because they 414 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: don't care. 415 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: And then they're not fans of the game or fans 416 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: of that player that they're trying to represent. They're fans 417 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: of controversy and they're fans of hatred. I don't think 418 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: any woman in the w wants to have a hateful 419 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: fan base or wants people to come for somebody like 420 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: just because they have competition on the court. I don't 421 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: think anybody wants that. So if people on Twitter are 422 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: acting like that and being hateful or tweeting those things 423 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: about you, you don't like the WNBA, you don't like 424 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: WNBA players, You're a hateful person. So what's the point. 425 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: One thing I want to talk to you about is 426 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: we've talked about this off camera, but the narrative that 427 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: WNBA players are brokey. 428 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: Crazy, you know what, that could have been true a 429 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: few years ago because actually an article that just came 430 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: out today they put my visions out. They said my 431 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 2: salary of the year I played for the Sky and 432 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: because it was only half of the season, I made 433 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: like forty five thousand dollars. 434 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: So yes, that's a blessing. 435 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: It's amazing I make money playing basketball, but that's ridiculous. 436 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: So when people have these perceptions of us, that's the 437 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: information that's out there for them. 438 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: Also, keep in mind there's a pay disparity that is 439 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: not okay. But also I think it's important to note 440 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: the NBA schedule is eighty two games long, and how 441 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: many games do y'all play? Forty forty and so you're 442 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: getting paid that for twenty forms. 443 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: Our season is shorter. Our housing is taken care of 444 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: for us. If you don't have a car, and market 445 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: that's taken care of. You get meals obviously, hotels, flights, 446 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: all that is handled even overseas, the same thing. So essentially, 447 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: if you're playing w and overseas, if you're in a 448 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 2: position to you could just be stacking bread for years, 449 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: which is what I was blessed enough to be able 450 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: to do, was just stack bread because I was just 451 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: going from one living situation to another living situation, and 452 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: then I would just go home. 453 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah that's nice, we go. 454 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: To my parents' house and chill. But yeah, that misconception 455 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 2: of the salaries. I'm begging you guys to understand that 456 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: we understand basic economics. 457 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: We're talking to you ice CBE. 458 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: We understand that, yes, if something doesn't make money, then yes, 459 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: you can't get paid millions of dollars. 460 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 3: We understand that. 461 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: I also want you guys to understand that we are 462 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 2: not asking for twenty million dollar contracts. We were asking 463 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: for contracts that are fair. The revenue split that we 464 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: have right now is atrocious. 465 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 3: That's the reality. That's what we negotiated. 466 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: Okay, we weren't thinking big enough, but you still have 467 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: to get what you can get, which is what happened 468 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: in the last CBA, which the strides we made for 469 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: the last CBA to now, the strides have been incredible. 470 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 2: The pay has increased, we have charter flights now. A 471 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: lot of teams have practice facilities, not us though, but 472 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: hopefully that's on the way. Sometimes you don't see even 473 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: bigger I'm not saying that anybody was close minded, but 474 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: there were priorities that we had seven years ago that 475 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: are different than now. 476 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: The CBA is going to be interesting. 477 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: Well, and the WNBA was the fastest going brand of 478 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, so it's like they made completely different 479 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: now than they were even a year ago. A year 480 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: ago and I like what you said about being able 481 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: to stack bread and being in that position, because I 482 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: don't like when people paint the WNBA or women's sports 483 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: in general out like it's some sort of charity case 484 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: that needs some savior to come down and help you 485 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: guys up and give you a piece of bread. And 486 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: I don't think they are. I don't think it's like that. Like, 487 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: I think people need to acknowledge. Yes, there are things 488 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: that need to change within women's sports, and that's why 489 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: we're doing this. But at the same time, it's good 490 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: enough as it is as a product. Like you guys 491 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: are out there, I'm. 492 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: Glad you said that the product is fine because the 493 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 2: business is the issue, yeah, not the product, and we 494 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: as players have nothing to do with the business of it. 495 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: Exactly. 496 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: Our job is to put a good product on the 497 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: floor that people want to consume. And you can't consume 498 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: something that you can't see, which is something that the 499 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: other league is currently dealing with right now. Is how 500 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: we're supposed to watch our favorite team if we can't 501 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 2: find them. We have been preaching that from the mountaintops 502 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: for years. You cannot support something that you can't see. 503 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: Exactly. 504 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 3: It's that simple. 505 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 1: It is that simple, and I'm no CEO, but I'm thinking, like, 506 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: if you make it easier for people to watch, I 507 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 1: know that you might miss out on that little like 508 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: streaming coin or whatever, but half the people are watching 509 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: it illegally anyways, I'm sorry. 510 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: So it's like more than half exactly. 511 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: So if you make it accessible and people can watch 512 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: basketball on cable or whatever or for free or on 513 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: their local channel, and they fall in love with the product, 514 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: then they're following the players on social media, and they're 515 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: following the league on social media, and they're buying tickets 516 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: to go see it in person. And then people prompted 517 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: to spend more money to be a part of it. 518 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: But if you stop forcing them to spend money just 519 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: to watch it on television, yeah, that don't work. 520 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: I mean I have to give a shout out to 521 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: the Liberty ownership and the Acest ownership because they like 522 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: drew a line. They're like, y'all want to win championships. 523 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: This is the way to do it. 524 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: You pour money into these organizations and you will get 525 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: your return on investment very quickly. You will get championships, 526 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: you will get max players, you will get full arenas, 527 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: and I think them doing that really was the catalyst 528 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 2: to this explosion of the W because what they did 529 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: in Vegas, from what they started from to what they 530 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: are now is amazing. What they did with the Liberty. 531 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: They've been an iconic franchise since the beginning of the league. 532 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: How they went from playing in the gym. 533 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: Before they went to Barclays. It was awful in there. 534 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: Now they're winning championships. 535 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: Like now they have a mascot that might be the 536 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: most famous person in the. 537 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: League right now. 538 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: Shout out to Big Ellis. 539 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 3: Shout out to Big Ellie. 540 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: So there's a divide in ownership and that's going to 541 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: be something that's interesting to explore moving forward, because we 542 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: have ownership groups that are ready to spend a coin 543 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: and we have ownership groups that are not, And that's 544 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: really becoming glaring. It's glaring. 545 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: Now. 546 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: That's a thing on social media, like people gravitate towards 547 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: TikTok because TikTok is willing to pay their creators to 548 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: create quality content, which makes the people who are consuming 549 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: content on TikTok want to stay on the app longer. 550 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: So it's the same thing with sports. If you're putting 551 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: money into your athletes, which are your product and your facilities, 552 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: and making sure that they have the best, then the 553 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: fans are more encouraged to watch it for longer because 554 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: what they're watching is higher quality. 555 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you want to be treated like a professional. 556 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm currently living in Los Angeles, and if I didn't 557 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: have my trainers here. 558 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: I would have nowhere to work out at. That's not okay? 559 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: No, So where do you practice? 560 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: I practice in the valley with my trainers that I 561 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: gratefully met while I was living out here. But if 562 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 2: I didn't have them, like, for example, they're out of 563 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 2: town right now. I haven't picked up a basketball in 564 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: like a week and a half. 565 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: But as your team, like, where's your team practice at? 566 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: So if you don't have a practice facility that's dedicated to. 567 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 3: You, girl. 568 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: And I'm not here to put anybody on blast, but 569 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: I'm here to talk the talk that needs to be spoken, 570 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 2: which is about how we should be treated as professional athletes. 571 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: And you want us to come out and put out 572 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: a good product and play at a high level and 573 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 2: be under these microscopes and scrutiny and constant criticisms, But 574 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: you can't give us a gym the way bare minimum. 575 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: So for me, anybody that knows me, I live in 576 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: the gym. I love working out, like gym rat to 577 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: the core. You're telling me that I worked my ass 578 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: off to become a professional athlete, and now I don't 579 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 2: have a gym. If I want to just go get 580 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: some shots up, I have nowhere to go. 581 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: Wait. I gotta ask you this because you were one 582 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: of the best players in college in the country, So 583 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: how is it different. I assume that the facilities at 584 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: your school. 585 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: Were amazing, twenty four seven access, shooting machines, cardio, weight room, 586 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: anything you needed to be a. 587 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: High level athlete, a high level athlete. So you get 588 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: all that of Duke to get you to the WBA. 589 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: Then you get to the WBA and you like, where 590 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: are the facilities at of Duke? 591 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 3: Where is it? For me? 592 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: There's just been a lot of things about my personal 593 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: experience that have helped me become the woman I am today, 594 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: which is a very resilient, well rounded person. And I 595 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: feel like the opinions and things that I say about 596 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: the w I've always wanted to push the league forward, 597 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: no matter what position I have in the league. Like 598 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: I've always been a huge advocate for women's basketball in 599 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: the w ever since I've been young, But now going 600 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: through it, I'm just like, there's certain things that I 601 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: don't want to say. I was afraid to say, but 602 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: I just had to see things through to be like, Okay, 603 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 2: is this me being in my feelings or is this. 604 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 3: Like the reality of the league. 605 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: And no, the reality of the league is that there's 606 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 2: a handful of teams that have nowhere to exercise and 607 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: work out and get better in the off season and 608 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: sometimes in season. 609 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: That's a problem. But that's why we're doing this, because 610 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: it's so important that you have a platform to speak 611 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: about those things and you're not constantly seeing other people 612 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: i em in speak about them for you. 613 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're living. 614 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: It's your lived experience and a lot of times like 615 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: you're not giving that platform to speak about these things. 616 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: So that's why you create your own. 617 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: Oh. Absolutely. 618 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: The thing about helping things grow is you have to 619 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: be open to the critiques that are beneficial. I'm big 620 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 2: on Okay, you're gonna bring something to me a complaint, 621 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: like without any type of solution in your vicinity, then 622 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: why are you bringing this to me? Obviously, you're just 623 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: trying to stir the pot. Talk shit not help if 624 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: you don't have an idea of how this can be improved. 625 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: If you just are constantly throwing shade and shots at 626 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: things and people and organizations. 627 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: That's not what I want here. 628 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: I'm part of the CBA committee, like I wanted to 629 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: be in WNBPA leadership. I want to do that because 630 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: I feel like, if I'm going to have these grievances, 631 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: I need to be a part of the group that 632 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: is going to help push the lead forward. So I 633 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: had to wait a while to get my footing, and 634 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: then I was comfortable enough to be like, okay, like 635 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: I want to be a part of this, no matter 636 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: what my role in the league. 637 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 3: Obviously I'm not the face of nothing but my life. 638 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: You're the face of this podcast, I'm the face of 639 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: this podcast. Now where are the faces of the podcast? 640 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I want to 641 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: be in a front office. I want to continue to 642 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 2: do media. So at the end of the day, I 643 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: want to just push things forward as much as I 644 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: can and then go do my job on the court 645 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: and then come back here and keep it pushing and 646 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: uplift and bring people in to also uplift but also 647 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: share their experiences, and I think that's what's going to 648 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: make this podcast so special exactly. 649 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm excited to get into especially as like the season 650 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: progresses and ask I'm so excited it goes on us 651 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: to like have debreaths because I. 652 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: Know people be wanting to know what goes on in 653 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: locker rooms, which I'm not gonna tell no business obviously 654 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: that's code, but I'm not gonna let other people make 655 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: assumptions and throw bs out about what's going on in 656 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: between these lines and behind the scenes. And we just 657 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: don't have anybody doing that right now. So I'm very excited. 658 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: I don't no one asked me to do it. I'm 659 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: excited to do. 660 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: But also I think it's important to let the listeners 661 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: know that we're also going to have women on the 662 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: podcast speak about their stories and what's going on in 663 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: these locker rooms and their experiences that haven't previously gotten 664 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: the opportunity to and people who have, but we're gonna 665 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: get like a first look at what's really happening in 666 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: women's basketball. 667 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. This is gonna be great. And again, 668 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: we're not here to throw shade. We're not here to 669 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: be negative. We're here to talk real. So anybody who 670 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: thinks me talking about the facilities is gonna's shady, it's 671 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: not shady. 672 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: It's my current reality. So I get to talk about it. 673 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: No, I know your teammates and we're. 674 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: Like, yes, yeah. 675 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: Like I love the Sparks organization. They've done so much 676 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: for me. My career has changed since I've been in 677 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Sparks organization. But that does not excuse 678 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: them from being able. 679 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: To improve, not in LA, not in LA. Not if 680 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: we want to win championships. 681 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: Again, they're about forty stadiums in here. I passed three 682 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: on my way over here. 683 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: Just let us go somewhere. 684 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: And it is not cheap to get gym space out 685 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: here either, So yeah, okay, if I want to go 686 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: shoot a little bit, that's not cheap. 687 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 3: Everybody gotta make bread out here. You're gonna be on 688 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: the streets. 689 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: So I'm just like, it's time to have these conversations. 690 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: But I hope everybody understand that it's coming from a 691 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: very genuine place. Like I just love the w I 692 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: love basketball, I love where women's sports is right now, 693 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: and I just think that we need to continue to 694 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: have these conversations. More women need to have these conversations, because, 695 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 2: like we said earlier, it has been completely taken over 696 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: by people that have no business. There was a lot 697 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: of negativity this season, or as record breaking and amazing 698 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: as the season was, I'm sure most fans can only 699 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: think of negative things that happened, and that's not how 700 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: you should leave a season like the finals was amazing, 701 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: but it's like they talked about the finals for five minutes. 702 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: They talked about Diana Tarassi potentially retiring for three minutes. 703 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: It was disgusting. Yeah, they sent her out. 704 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: I agree, and I but I think that one of 705 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: the beauties of the WBA having such a record breaking 706 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: season as far as viewership and everything that happened and 707 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: people covering the sport that weren't previously covering it. Was 708 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: the coverage a little bit irresponsible. Yes, at the same time, 709 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: I am glad that some of these bigger platforms that 710 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: weren't covering it before are even if they're not doing 711 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: it completely right yet, because I think that makes space 712 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: for people like us to come in and give it 713 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: the coverage that I feel like the game deserves. So 714 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: it's not that I want those people to stop talking 715 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: about it. I just think that there needs to be 716 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: a certain level of responsibility when you're talking about something 717 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: that is in the growing stage. But I mean, that's 718 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: what we're here for. 719 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like when you say things like that, 720 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: like responsibility, and people are being irresponsible. They're thinking that 721 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: we want to be like coddled and babied. No, if 722 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: you have an opinion about a player, cool, tell us 723 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: why it can't just be like that's how I feel. No, 724 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: that's not how good narratives and storylines are built. Like 725 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: there's no rhyme or reason to what a lot of 726 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: people have been saying. So, yes, you can have a 727 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: favorite player. Just tell me why you love this player 728 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: so much. But if you don't like this player, tell 729 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: me why you don't like this player. And if you 730 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: sound like you got some weird hating stuff, then that's fine. 731 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: Be that. But there are people who are like, I'm 732 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 3: a proud da da da hater. 733 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: Let me say this because I said it needs to 734 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: be covered more responsibly. I didn't say you need to 735 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: be sweet, I said responsible. And the second thing when 736 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: it comes to being responsible and covering women's sports is 737 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: if you are more so talking about what is controversial 738 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: than you are talking about who is the best. And 739 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: if you're not speaking about Asia Wilson, ever, then you 740 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: don't need to be covering women's basketball period. If you're 741 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: speaking about really anybody more than you're speaking about her, 742 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: If you're speaking about controversy between two rookies more than 743 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: you're talking about the finals, is irresponsible. So that's my issue. 744 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying be sweet. I'm not saying don't talk 745 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: about those things because I cover basketball and I talk 746 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: about those things too, But at the same time, when 747 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: the finals come, you talk about that lock in. 748 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 2: I think the biggest miss this season was the coverage 749 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 2: of the Minnesota Links, who also retired Minmore's jersey in 750 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: the midst of this amazing season. 751 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: They had their complete. 752 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: Domination of the w for the most part, Like it 753 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: wasn't close for the most part. I thought they were 754 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: going to win the finals. A lot of people thought 755 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 2: they were going to win the finals. But it was 756 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 2: Crickets the entire season. That is an organization that has 757 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 2: already won one four championships, and you guys had nothing 758 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: to say about them the entire season, their best player 759 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: came second in MVP voting, and one defensive Player of 760 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 2: the year. 761 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: Nothing, y'all don't have nothing to say about. 762 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 2: And that's a void that we're gonna fill is talking 763 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: about these players that deserve flowers now, because I'm very 764 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: tired of us being like, oh, let's give this person 765 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: their flowers and they played twenty years ago. 766 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 3: Why did you give them their flowers twenty years ago 767 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: when they earned them. 768 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 2: I'm happy to give them their flowers now, twenty years later, 769 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 2: but I don't want players playing now. 770 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 3: To feel that way. And there's enough flowers everybody, right, 771 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 3: That's what people are also missing. There's not only four flowers. 772 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, there's an abundance of flowers. 773 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 3: Exactly. There's not abundance of people to give them, but us, 774 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: we gonna give them everything. 775 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: Everywhere you get a flower, Oh my god, we should. 776 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 3: Do a segment you get a flower? 777 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: Yees. Cute way to conclude this is who is somebody 778 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: that you feel like deserves their flowers today right now? 779 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 780 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm going to go with Fee. I think 781 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 3: she deserves her flowers right now. 782 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 2: I think she got a few during the finals run 783 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 2: because she was playing out of her mind the whole playoffs. 784 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 3: She was playing out of her mind. 785 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: And now she's about to start her own league unrivaled, 786 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 2: which I think is incredible. 787 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, who gets a flower today is an Pisa Collier. 788 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: I was her teammate when she was a rookie, and 789 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: I had a blast playing with her. She was amazing 790 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: to play with and she's also amazing to play against. 791 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: She challenges everybody. She's pretty much unguardable. But yeah, flower 792 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: of the day goes to an the Fisa Collier. 793 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give my flower to the LS Park because 794 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: I don't realize y'all had no practice facility. I don't realize. No, 795 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: the girls on the team, oh you girl, Oh, I 796 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: thought you were given the organization flowers. 797 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 3: I was like, they get rocks. 798 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: No. 799 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 3: No to the players for fighting through Yeah. 800 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 1: Yes, because that is wow. 801 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: It's tough, and I felt bad for our rookies. Listen, 802 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 2: they were probably like what is this? 803 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 3: And I had no explanation for them, and I was 804 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 3: just like, it's just. 805 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: What we are. I'm gonna be done with the being 806 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,479 Speaker 1: spicy after I say this, But I just am gonna 807 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: say if we started treating WNBA players just as well 808 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 1: as we treated women's college basketball players. I think things 809 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: will be a lot different. But Lexi, I can't wait 810 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: for everyone to listen to our next one because I 811 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: feel like we have so much to say and I 812 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: could send talk to you about this for hours, but 813 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they want to listen to much. 814 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 2: They after that, Yes they do, guys, this is Full 815 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 2: Circle Podcast. 816 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 3: We will see you next week. 817 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Full Circle. We'll be back next 818 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: week with more basketball for the girls, by the girls. 819 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: We want to hear from you. 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