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Speaker 1: Welcome to America's, Mr garbutsch Off. Tear down this wall.

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Speaker 1: will make America great again. We'll never sharender. It's what

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Speaker 1: you've been waiting for all day. Buck Sexton with America

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Speaker 1: four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight four four nine

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Speaker 1: hundred two, eight to five, sharp mind, strong voice, Buck Sexton,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Freedom Hunt, my friends, team Buck. Great

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Speaker 1: to have you here. A lot to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about today. Been quite a week and a pretty interesting

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Speaker 1: I didn't really spend much time on yesterday. We will

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Speaker 1: also do more analysis, actual analysis of Afghanistan and what's

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Speaker 1: any other place today from what I've seen and read

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Speaker 1: of how the military functions. Let's just put people on

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Speaker 1: TV like, yeah, this bomb was really it was really big.

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Speaker 1: This bomb was big. Big bomb goes boom. Thanks for that.

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Speaker 1: M Yes, the very big bomb does in fact go boom.

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Speaker 1: But we'll talk about Afghanistan. And as is my my mandate,

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Speaker 1: I think from the show than well any other news

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Speaker 1: So that's a promise that I can make to you. UM.

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Speaker 1: I know Afghanistan well, it's an issue I worked on

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Speaker 1: There's a part of me that feels bad when you

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Speaker 1: see one of these student editorials somewhere, because you see,

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Speaker 1: I wrote some student editorials way back in the day

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Speaker 1: who disagrees with Trump on some issue or another is

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Speaker 1: a sellout or is doing Hillary's work. During the during

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Speaker 1: the general, I was with those, I I was with

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Speaker 1: them on that I'm like, you gotta be Trump, you

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Speaker 1: gotta go with Trump. I voted for Trump. I said

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Speaker 1: it would before and I pulled the lever firm I

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Speaker 1: talked about the day after um and I've been supporting

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Speaker 1: him ever since. But there are some things that I

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Speaker 1: see happening that I can't say I nest One, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure where he's going, and two, it's not clear

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Speaker 1: to me that they're moving in the right direction, and

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Speaker 1: that is concerning to me. Um, you know, Trum Trump

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Speaker 1: Trump got a lot of a lot of credit for

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Speaker 1: a fort or foreign policy actions that are what you

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Speaker 1: would expect from other Republican administrations previously. Right that that's

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Speaker 1: that's pretty standard. Is that really? What he promised us

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Speaker 1: when he was running, is that there would be uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, that there would be a humanitarian a humanitarian

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Speaker 1: strike in in Syria. I'm not saying it's the wrong thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying we need to keep an eye on

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Speaker 1: what's happening here because it seems like the administration is

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Speaker 1: shifting around on different issues, and this is the time

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Speaker 1: to have an open discussion about it and not take

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Speaker 1: a a tunnel vision view of everything Trump does is

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Speaker 1: right because he's Trump, and I that's I'm uncomfortable with that.

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Speaker 1: I would be uncomfortable no matter who the president was.

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Speaker 1: That's not That's not me either I'm like you. I

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Speaker 1: started with the senator from Texas. Yeah, no, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: I hear you. It mostly other way, but I think

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Speaker 1: I think I hear what you're saying. And I think

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Speaker 1: part of our challenge in mine is too is there

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Speaker 1: such a lunch of half truth and innuendo that comes

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Speaker 1: every day of us. And you may have better contacts

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Speaker 1: obviously than I do, but I don't know how one

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Speaker 1: can ever trust anything most of the mainstream media. And

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Speaker 1: I don't say that. I mean, I'm a generation that

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Speaker 1: lived with three networks for most of my life, and

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Speaker 1: it pains me to think I can't trust anything. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's an open it's an open propaganda war. And I

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Speaker 1: think if if you listen to the show, you're you're

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Speaker 1: very clear on where I stand on that. It is

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Speaker 1: it is a propaganda war. That that is what the

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Speaker 1: media has become. Uh, it is really in the It

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Speaker 1: is really obvious. Now. I don't think it's something that

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Speaker 1: anyone can really um uh, you know, it's it's not

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Speaker 1: something that is that is easy to argue the alternative

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Speaker 1: at this point, So you know what we'll see. I

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Speaker 1: just on the foreign policy front, Afghanistan in particular, which

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Speaker 1: is really what was making me think about this. I'm

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Speaker 1: not clear what the administration is going to do. I

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Speaker 1: know they I think there, I think General I think

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Speaker 1: General McMaster is now tasked with doing an Afghan Afghanistan review,

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Speaker 1: which is a good thing, but things are not going

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Speaker 1: well there. Maybe as I get into Afghanistan, you'll see

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Speaker 1: more about uh, you'll get a sense of why I

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Speaker 1: have concerns and want to speak about this, other than

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Speaker 1: just saying yeah, of course, of course it's that was huge. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I mean we could go on line. There have been

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Speaker 1: some excellent things that the administration has already accomplished on

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Speaker 1: the side. On the advisor side, it does seem like

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Speaker 1: there have been some less than optimal choices and they're

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Speaker 1: changing those. Okay, you know, I'm not expecting perfection. It's early.

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Speaker 1: And I think I heard one Special Forces officer that's

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Speaker 1: retired now say today that that instead of tunnels are

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Speaker 1: the same ones that that we allowed um Bond escaped through,

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Speaker 1: and that he was for one had new for eight

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Speaker 1: years all he was active, that everybody knew about that

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Speaker 1: system in our past president did absolutely nothing to close

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Speaker 1: down that tunnel, and that it really was. It's much

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Speaker 1: like Domesican tunnels that we have coming in and our

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Speaker 1: or from the drug kings. You know. It was how

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Speaker 1: they got all their weapons, They got all kinds of

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Speaker 1: stuff through there for supplies. And if if we have

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Speaker 1: to bomb the entire mountain side into the ground to

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Speaker 1: stop those transports, I think that that is a certainly

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Speaker 1: good start. And that's what seems to me that is

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Speaker 1: it is it is. It is also having having spent

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Speaker 1: some time in country, I can tell you it's a

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Speaker 1: very big country. There are a lot of tunnels, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of places. You know, this is so so

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Speaker 1: this is not this is not. Let's let me actually,

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Speaker 1: and I thank you very much for your call, Walter,

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Speaker 1: let me get into a bit of of what I

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about on Afghanistan specifically. So, so here's

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Speaker 1: what's going on. You've got the media all talking about

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Speaker 1: how um Afghanistan. Look at what Trump has done it

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Speaker 1: sending a message to North Korea. By the way, there

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Speaker 1: was quite an instring response last night to that NBC

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Speaker 1: news story that I read you and you will recall

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Speaker 1: those you were listening to the show, that I was

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Speaker 1: kind of like, this is really, we're the the NBC

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Speaker 1: News Store. This is n not MSNBC. This is NBC NB,

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Speaker 1: which is the It's kind of the same thing, but

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Speaker 1: NBC is supposed to be a little more centrist and normal. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And they were saying that the US was considering a

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Speaker 1: first strike, a first strike in North Korea. I was like,

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Speaker 1: what if they think they're going to engage in a

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Speaker 1: nuclear test. It's like, we're not gonna go first strikes,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. Uh, They've done a bunch of these tests.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we do a first strike now? And I

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Speaker 1: saw the there was backlash to this last night, people saying, well,

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Speaker 1: that's just they're going they're way off whoever they're talking,

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Speaker 1: whatever sources they're using, there are way off. But on

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Speaker 1: on Afghanistan right now, we're talking about this cave complex

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Speaker 1: and dropping this what is the twenty three thousand pound

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Speaker 1: bomb on it? And it's all as I said there

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Speaker 1: would be last night. There are a lot of diagrams

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Speaker 1: of bombs and people talking about the different bombs. Uh,

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Speaker 1: here's the reality of what's going on in Afghanistan. The

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Speaker 1: Islamic stay it is a is a small, a small

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Speaker 1: enemy body that we have to worry about right now,

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Speaker 1: a small part of the enemy. We have to worry about.

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Speaker 1: The Taliban is the real problem, and the Taliban in Afghanistan.

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Speaker 1: Here we are now sixteen years into this war. And

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Speaker 1: a another point that this also goes to the media

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Speaker 1: propaganda war angle that people need to know and do

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Speaker 1: not know or is this has never talked about? Is

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Speaker 1: that a a clear majority. I think it's close to

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Speaker 1: sevent of US casualties in Afghanistan occurred while Obama was

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Speaker 1: the commander in chief. So there was this surge in Afghanistan.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was done for political reasons by the

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Speaker 1: previous administration. We're gonna go hard into Afghanistan. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: pull out in Iraq, and uh they did that, and

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Speaker 1: as we saw Iraq, within short order, how the Islamic

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Speaker 1: State comes screaming in from Syria and grab Mosle and

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Speaker 1: at one point almost a third of Iraq was an

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Speaker 1: Islamic state hands and they surged and then withdrew and

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Speaker 1: he announced Obama announced the surge and withdrawal at roughly

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Speaker 1: the roughly the same time. So he's saying we're gonna

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Speaker 1: give We're gonna put more troops in but then we're

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Speaker 1: gonna draw down by this date. And here we are

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Speaker 1: now up from a high of of over a hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand troops, now we're down to hundred. And the story

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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan right now is a very discouraging one. Um.

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Speaker 1: The story in Afghanistan is that the Taliban, and this

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Speaker 1: is according to the Long War Journal, And we'll have

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Speaker 1: one of the editor will have the editor of the

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Speaker 1: Long Word Journal joining us in just a little bit. Here.

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Speaker 1: The Taliban claims that it controls thirty four districts, It

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Speaker 1: contests a hundred and sixty seven districts um and has

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Speaker 1: a significant presence in another fifty two districts. Well, there's

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Speaker 1: only a few hundred districts in all of all of Afghanistan,

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Speaker 1: and they are in there. From a pure terrain perspective,

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Speaker 1: Taliban are in their strongest position since two thousand and one.

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Speaker 1: Right now, that's what it would seem. I know, you say, Buck,

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Speaker 1: that's the Taliband claim. Well, the the analysis that has

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Speaker 1: been done on our side and the open source by

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Speaker 1: different organizations that track this is pretty close to what

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Speaker 1: the Taliban says that they currently have. So we're sixteen

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Speaker 1: years into this war and we have eighty eight well

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Speaker 1: whatever it is about eight thousand close to nine thousand

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Speaker 1: US troops officially in country and another six thousand or

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Speaker 1: so coalition allied troops in country, and the Afghan national

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Speaker 1: security forces are getting hit hard. They're they are depleted.

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Speaker 1: The fighting season is looking like it will be. Which

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Speaker 1: is fighting season really matters there because the mountain passes

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Speaker 1: in the snow and ability to travels dramatically restricted in

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Speaker 1: the winter. So there really is a fighting season. We

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Speaker 1: are entering it right now. The fighting season means that

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Speaker 1: there could be moves on major cities, some major cities,

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Speaker 1: and I mean major cities by Afghan standards. Up, I've

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Speaker 1: got to go into break your team, um, and we'll

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Speaker 1: be right back and we'll continue this. Sorry, went along

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Speaker 1: talking Afghanistan, and we'll get into some other stuff in

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Speaker 1: a bit. But stay with me. North Korea. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this sends a message. It doesn't make any difference.

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Speaker 1: If it doesn't, North Koreas the problem. The problem will

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Speaker 1: be taken care of. I will say this, I think

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Speaker 1: China has really been working very hard. I have really

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Speaker 1: gotten to like and respect, as you know, President she

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Speaker 1: He's a very special man, so we'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna try very hard. Trump trying to

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Speaker 1: enlist the help of China to deal with North Korea

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Speaker 1: is wise. Um, it's probably other than cutting off additional

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Speaker 1: financing for North Korea and trying to cut off North

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Speaker 1: Korea from the international banking system even more than it

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Speaker 1: already is. China is one of the best points of leverage.

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Speaker 1: I know they have agreed to suspend coal shipments to

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Speaker 1: North Korea for a while, which which will will sting

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Speaker 1: I'm sure in the North Korean economy. Of course. One

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Speaker 1: of the problems you have here is any time you

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Speaker 1: do anything to punish the regime in North Korea, you

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Speaker 1: really end up punishing the people more than anyone else.

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Speaker 1: And you can even get into a pretty rigorous discussion

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Speaker 1: as to whether sanctions in a case like North Korea's

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Speaker 1: aren't counterproductive. You're not going to bring about a revolution

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Speaker 1: in a totalitarian police state by denying certain things to

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Speaker 1: the population. In fact, sanctions have a have a history

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Speaker 1: in a number of cases. Russia is a is a

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Speaker 1: good instance of bringing people more into the arms of

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Speaker 1: the regime because of the sense of shared suffering and

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Speaker 1: just think about the propaganda. It's so easy to say, well,

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Speaker 1: look at those Americans and their international allies. They are

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Speaker 1: keeping food, They're taking food out of the mouths of,

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Speaker 1: you know, of children in order to pursue their vendetta

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Speaker 1: against US. So I think that Trump did a is

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Speaker 1: doing the right thing with regard to China. Um Russia

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Speaker 1: is the big story other than North Korea this week

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Speaker 1: on the foreign policy front. And of course, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I haven't mentioned and I should note this. I saw

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Speaker 1: that piece in the Guardian that says that British or

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Speaker 1: I think it was, that said that there was outside

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Speaker 1: US intelligence collection that got I'm just there's only so

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Speaker 1: many of these anonymous, unsourced stories that I can read

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Speaker 1: that start this feverish news cycle again about Trump and

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Speaker 1: all the all Trump and Russia collusion. Before I want

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Speaker 1: to turn around and say, uh, what are we What

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Speaker 1: am I even people asking about this? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I don't know? They keep running these stories and then

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Speaker 1: in two weeks are they're gonna stand behind the story?

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Speaker 1: Probably not. This all goes to what I was saying before.

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Speaker 1: It is a It is a propaganda war, and it

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Speaker 1: feels increasingly like some of these major outlets out there

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Speaker 1: just are are spewing things that they can ethically, in

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Speaker 1: their minds, get away with reporting even though they know

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna stay me and more and stand behind

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Speaker 1: it and more of this Trump Rusher collusion stuff, I

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Speaker 1: feel like it just fits into that category. It's why

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Speaker 1: I didn't talk about it yesterday. And I want to

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Speaker 1: see it here and talk. You know, I just paid

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Speaker 1: my taxes. I want to talking about that. I want

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Speaker 1: to see tax reform from this administration. I want to

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Speaker 1: see a lot of things and having to spend more time.

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Speaker 1: Oh there's look at Carter page, or there's more on

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Speaker 1: uh unsourced allegations or anonymously sourced allegations about how Trump

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Speaker 1: is uh, you know, collude was colluding with the Rock.

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Speaker 1: I'm just just give me some evidence. I want actual evidence.

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Speaker 1: I want someone who will speak up on the record,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll talk more about that. But we'll get

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Speaker 1: back to Afghanistan here in just a second, Buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: with America. Now the Freedom Hut is fired up as

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Speaker 1: team buck assembles shouldered his shoulder shields high call in

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Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred, Buck, that's eight four four

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Speaker 1: hundred to eight to five were joined by Bill Roggio.

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Speaker 1: He is the editor of UH, the Long War Journal,

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Speaker 1: which is part of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies,

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Speaker 1: and Bill is a senior fellow at f d D. Bill,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for calling in. Thanks pleasure. So let's

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Speaker 1: get into this because right now a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are talking about Afghanistan because of the moab drop. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's the first time I've seen a lot of media

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Speaker 1: coverage of Afghanistan in a long time. The situation there

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Speaker 1: is not good. Yeah, you're absolutely correct, and look at

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Speaker 1: you if there's there's a lot of discussion, and I think, um,

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Speaker 1: it's fine. I mean, look this weapon, and there's this

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Speaker 1: sort of over emphasis on what we use as weapons

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Speaker 1: of war, whether they're drones or new fighter planes or

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Speaker 1: the moab. But to me, someone who watches and reports

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Speaker 1: on Afghanistan regularly, UM, it's really become my main beat

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Speaker 1: over the last several years, along with Pakistan. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: it's that forgotten war. So anything that draws attention in

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Speaker 1: Afghanistan and the situation there. And look, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to mince words. We're losing in Afghanistan. The Taliban controls

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Speaker 1: more territory today than they have at any time since

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Speaker 1: since after nine eleven. And if it takes dropping a

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Speaker 1: moab on the Islamic State, which didn't even exist when

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Speaker 1: this war started, and they're gaining a foothold in Afghanistan,

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Speaker 1: that just tells you how bad things are there, or

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Speaker 1: it just gives you a glimpse actually of how things

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Speaker 1: band aren't. Yeah, well, this is this is what I

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Speaker 1: was starting off the show today thinking about. We have

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Speaker 1: so much media coverage of this, of this dropping of

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Speaker 1: this bomb, and a lot of talking about the messaging

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Speaker 1: that comes from this. It sends a message, people say,

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Speaker 1: to North Korea, and it sends a message that Trump

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Speaker 1: administration is different. That is all true, and that is

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Speaker 1: all well and good from my perspective. However, we are,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with you, losing the war in Afghanistan,

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Speaker 1: where we still have over eight thousand troops and a

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Speaker 1: commitment to help the Afghan people maintain durable stability, and

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Speaker 1: it's not going well. And this is now I think

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Speaker 1: needs to be much more of a public discussion. But

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Speaker 1: let's get into the numbers of it. You know, where

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Speaker 1: are things going particularly badly? I looked at a map

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Speaker 1: that you guys have at at a long war journal

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Speaker 1: and a lot of the places where I've seen where

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Speaker 1: where you see uh Taliban control or highly high levels

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Speaker 1: of Taliban contested areas are in the South Helman province,

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Speaker 1: Conda Harp that I would have expected that without seeing

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Speaker 1: any maps along the af Pack border a number of

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Speaker 1: provinces there. But then you see a surge of contest

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Speaker 1: provinces up through the center of Afghanistan towards kabbal Uh

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Speaker 1: and even in the northwest of the country, which that

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Speaker 1: is on you. I mean, that's not the typical Oh

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Speaker 1: it's Taliban fighting season. Again, that's something different. Taliban fighting

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Speaker 1: season hasn't existed for years. They have been going at

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Speaker 1: it year round ever since the US decided to withdraw

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Speaker 1: forces from Afghanistan. And so look and that map that

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Speaker 1: I created is based on what the Taliban claims, but

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Speaker 1: except individually, I tracked this on my own and I

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Speaker 1: view that the Taliban's claim is credible and it might

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Speaker 1: in some cases even be conservative. Uh. The reason why

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Speaker 1: I consider credible if you look and you know you're

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Speaker 1: talking about the layout of this map in one area

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Speaker 1: in Kandahar Province, which is the birthplace of the Taliban

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Speaker 1: a couple of districts, Zari and Consway. This is where

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Speaker 1: the Taliban grew, where Mullah Omar established this first mosque

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Speaker 1: and things of that nature. And the Taliban are saying, look,

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Speaker 1: we don't control any territory in these areas, but we're

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Speaker 1: fighting a girl a ward there that you know, the Taliban,

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Speaker 1: you know, have every reason to lie about what's happening

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Speaker 1: in these districts, and they're not. And that's why. Um

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Speaker 1: when matching it with data that I had, and again

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Speaker 1: my data was more of incomplete than with the Taliban,

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Speaker 1: I have to give it a lot of credibility. The U.

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Speaker 1: S Military, I'll tell you no, no things are fine.

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Speaker 1: That Taliman only controlled thirty districts, and when you look

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Speaker 1: at the reality of it, the Taliban, there's four hundred

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Speaker 1: districts in Afghanistan, pick of them as maybe counties or townships.

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Speaker 1: Here in the United States, of the four hundreds of

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Speaker 1: Taliban either control or hotly contest or moderately contest, uh oh,

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Speaker 1: well over two hundred of them. And in terms of

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Speaker 1: land mass percentage, I know that population density and populations

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Speaker 1: that matters a lot more. But do you have some

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Speaker 1: sense of uh, you know, are are they in control

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Speaker 1: of roughly a third of the country. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: say they control probably a third of the country. And

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Speaker 1: now look, you gotta remember a classic real of warfare

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Speaker 1: will tell you, look, these remote areas, these matter because

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Speaker 1: they allow you to surround and they allow you to

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Speaker 1: to to provide bases for you or um for your insurgency.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what the Taliban are doing. So well,

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Speaker 1: the coalition where U. S forces and Afghans forces are saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: we'll just like the Taliban control. They don't matter, there's

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Speaker 1: no population there. The Taliban are like, yet, we'll take them.

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Speaker 1: Then they use those as launch points as their surrounding areas.

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Speaker 1: Last year they laid seeds to six different provincial capitals

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Speaker 1: or think of them state capitals here in the United States,

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Speaker 1: and they took for a while right up in the north,

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Speaker 1: which shocked people, and we had to we the US

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Speaker 1: had to deploy soldiers to help help the Afghans take

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Speaker 1: it back. Yes, it happened twice since UH two thousand

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Speaker 1: and fifteen, where they entered condues and controlled large areas

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Speaker 1: of the city for well over two weeks. It's the

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Speaker 1: U s military. Look, I served in the military. I

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Speaker 1: love our military, I love our country. But they have

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Speaker 1: not been honest. They have been whitewashing what has happened

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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. The US commanders are punching their ticket by

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Speaker 1: telling us how great things are in Afghanistan and how

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Speaker 1: great the Afghans are. They get a nice, fat job

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Speaker 1: at an other command and then on their way out

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Speaker 1: the door they say, well, it wasn't as nice as

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Speaker 1: I thought. It was. One other part of this that

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Speaker 1: I think it doesn't get nearly enough enough attention. We'll

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Speaker 1: get into the the Isis angle maybe again in a

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Speaker 1: few minutes, but I wanted to move to Russia for

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Speaker 1: a second. I don't think people ever read or hear

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Speaker 1: about the Russian hand in Afghanistan, but there are some

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Speaker 1: very troubling signs about what Russia is up to. Their Yes,

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Speaker 1: so what Russia. Look, Russia thought its war in Afghanistan

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Speaker 1: and lost, and it lost to the precursors to the Taliban,

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Speaker 1: some of them write, some of them actually are in

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Speaker 1: the Afghan government. But Russia is very concerned about the

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Speaker 1: Islamic state in Afghanistan, particularly along the it's the borders

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Speaker 1: with its former satellite countries, you know, Turkmenistan and Pekistan,

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Speaker 1: things of that, countries like that. So what Russia is

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Speaker 1: you know, there's been a lot of reporting on the

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Speaker 1: Russian support for the Taliban, but what they've actually done

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Speaker 1: is is I'm not trying to cover the Russians here.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of the Russians by any way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form here, but I think that they're playing

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Speaker 1: a game where they're trying to arm local groups up

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Speaker 1: in the northern areas in order to serve as a

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Speaker 1: bulwark to the Islamic State because the Islamic State and

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Speaker 1: the Taliban in many instances they don't like each other

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Speaker 1: and they'll even fight each other. Now, up in the north,

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Speaker 1: that's not as big as a problem, and that's where

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Speaker 1: this all gets really really fuzzy. But the Russians, look,

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Speaker 1: I think they're what they're trying to do is prepare

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Speaker 1: for the collapse of Afghanistan and and trying to buy

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Speaker 1: off local Taliban actors. This never works, by the way,

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Speaker 1: but that's what they're they're trying to do. And do

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Speaker 1: we do we know what the level of support the

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Speaker 1: Russians are are giving to the Taliban is I've seen

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Speaker 1: some reports that make it seem like, yeah, the Russians

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Speaker 1: understand that the best game in town, that's not the

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Speaker 1: central government that we have been helping with our allies

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Speaker 1: to keep in business for the last sixteen years, is

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Speaker 1: going to be the Taliban. Yeah, and so they're not

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Speaker 1: operating with the Taliban. They're from what I could gather

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Speaker 1: on this situation, they're not really operating. They're not cooperating

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Speaker 1: with the Taliban leadership, the central Taliban leadership that operates

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Speaker 1: in the south. They're more dealing with the ones, like

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Speaker 1: I said, up in the north that would impact the

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Speaker 1: border areas. Level of support is small arms. They're not

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Speaker 1: providing things game changers like surface to air weapons and

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Speaker 1: they could shoot down our fighters and helicopters. So you

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Speaker 1: just you're thinking ammunition, small arms, cash, um and and

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Speaker 1: perhaps it's possible. I can't can't prove this, but given

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Speaker 1: the way things have worked in this region, there might

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Speaker 1: be some sanctuary on the other side of the border.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing reports that that that Taliban fighters are getting

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Speaker 1: medical care in former Russian republics, and we know that

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Speaker 1: of course, to the west, you've got Iran and the

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Speaker 1: Iranian hand in Afghanistan doesn't get much coverage. Have you

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Speaker 1: seen anything about any Iranian interest or activities going on there,

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Speaker 1: because there's a lot of stuff happened in Afghanistan that

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Speaker 1: just flies under the radar. Yeah, the Iranians have been

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Speaker 1: supporting local Taliban elements in the West and even the

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Speaker 1: Central Taliban Taliban leadership for for well over a decade now.

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Speaker 1: It's is well documented. They even it's even thought to

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Speaker 1: have provided a couple of surface to air missiles that

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Speaker 1: shot that are thought to have shot down in British Uh.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was a British transport plane of British aircraft.

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Speaker 1: This was a decade ago. So it gets a little

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Speaker 1: fuzzy when you start going the war for this long,

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Speaker 1: it's a you know, everything starts to blend. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Iranians, they have a vested interest and a lot

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Speaker 1: of it is due to the drug trade. A lot

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Speaker 1: of it is for payback against the America, against US,

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Speaker 1: the Americans, and so the Ranians are very adept in

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Speaker 1: establishing local contacts with their cuds forest the I R

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Speaker 1: g C. It's it's a revolutionary guards and uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, the ran it's not you know again a

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Speaker 1: view I ran when you look at the in the

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Speaker 1: sort of this constellation of bad actors in the region.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna put them well alow. Pakistan for shore,

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Speaker 1: Pakistan is our biggest enemy inside out. You can't defeat

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Speaker 1: the Taliban without dealing with what's going on in Pakistan.

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Speaker 1: And we don't really have any way of dealing with

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Speaker 1: what's going on in Pakistan. You listen, you hit the

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Speaker 1: nail on the head. I testified to this fact into

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Speaker 1: Congress last year last summer. Um, we can do we

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Speaker 1: can try and build the Afghan army. We can do

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Speaker 1: everything perfectly and without destroying that support from the Pakistani's

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Speaker 1: and the and the safe havens. It's the Taliban is

856
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: is just sort of on a slow path, Victor. And

857
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: where does that leave us now going forward? And what

858
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: what would the if I had like an ISAF spokesman

859
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: here who is going to give the most positive view

860
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: of progress over the last eight years, while Obama's commander

861
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: in chief of what's going on in Afghanistan, what would

862
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: that sound like? He would tell you that we've built

863
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: the Afghan military to seven hundred thousand wrong strong. Um

864
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: they're fighting on their own, they're conducting operations on their

865
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: own there, they're you know, stout on the battlefield. They've

866
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: made significant strides with Pakistani cooperation. Uh, that's that's a

867
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: lot of the non Well that's what that's what they

868
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: would have. That's what I was hearing when I was

869
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: in country years ago. So that that hasn't that hasn't

870
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: really changed. Maybe the numbers are a little bit bigger

871
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: now they were them, But that was the idea that

872
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: brings me then to what now. I think McMaster is

873
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: looking at Afghan policy, Afghanistan policy in review to figure

874
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: out what the do do we have any sense of

875
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: what the administration is going to do on Afghanistan because

876
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: my my read on what's going on right now is

877
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: this is a slow this is a slow bleedout. This

878
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: is actually much worse than a lot of folks realize.

879
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: You're listen. Uh, it's it's like you're reading my mind

880
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: over here. I've been screaming about this, Uh, numerous people

881
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: in government for years. Um, but there is no stomach

882
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 1: for Afghanistan. We're going to find out. I really don't

883
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 1: the I'm sorry, the Trump administration pre action and post

884
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: election has been silent. We have heard nothing about what

885
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 1: they think to do on Afghanistan. If I had to guess,

886
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: and I don't think Trump is going to want to

887
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: lose Afghanistan. Obama did a fantastic job in keeping the

888
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: lid on it just enough to hand it off to

889
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: a successor. And I would guess that Trump probably will

890
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: increase the number of troops in Afghanistan in order to

891
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: to sort of turned back some Taliban advances. It'll it'll

892
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: nearly keep the lid on this problem. But this problem

893
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: isn't going away, which out a full It's not just

894
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: a commitment of U. S. Military forces. We need the

895
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: full commitment of the State Department, of all the resources

896
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: of the U. S. Government, And then you need to Afghanistan.

897
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: And this is the one that I don't think. I

898
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: don't know that we could ever get back. I don't

899
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: think the Afghan people buy in large trust US anymore.

900
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: We have showed we have proven, in my opinion, to

901
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: be feckless, particularly with the surgeon too, that from two

902
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: thousand ten to twelve, where we put you know, a lar,

903
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: it's a number of US troops in we beat back

904
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: the Taliban in a couple of areas, but left them

905
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: and others, and then we quickly pulled them back to

906
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: the Afghanistan. They saw that they've seen this movie before.

907
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: It's uh, you know, sixteen years of half measures in Afghanistan,

908
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: and um, you know, if they don't support us at

909
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: the end of the day, they can't we can't win.

910
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: Bill Roggio is editor of the Foundation for Defensive Democracies

911
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: Long War Journal, and he's a senior fellow at f

912
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: d D. Bill really appreciate you having on having you on.

913
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: Please come back another time, all right, anytime, Buck, Thanks,

914
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: it was a real pleasure and happy Easter to you

915
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: and your lister. Thank you you too, sir. By the way,

916
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: I just so you guys are listening to No, I've

917
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: never talked to Bill before, never corresponded with Bill before.

918
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: Everything you've heard from in there, it's just this is

919
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: what people who know Afghanistan are saying right now that

920
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: I can tell you. Everything else you're hearing is is

921
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: really not reality. So I still know people on the

922
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: inside who cover Afghanistan very closely. That's what they will

923
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: in whispers say as well. So I'm just trying to

924
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'm keeping it real, everybody. I wish I

925
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: could say that, Ye, big bomb goes boom and that's

926
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: the end of it. But big big bomb goes boom

927
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 1: in a country that we are losing a we're currently

928
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: losing the fight in it's really the Afghans. We're losing

929
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: the fight, but we're there. We have troops in harm's way.

930
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna talk about that stuff here. You know,

931
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: this is not about you know, who can have the

932
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: most clever the most clever meme tweet about the moab,

933
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of those out there. So this

934
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: is you come here, you hang out with me, the

935
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: freedom what we do real stuff, um, and we also

936
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: do fun stuff with that in mind. Action movie quote

937
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: from Rutger in Ohio. Cheer me up a bit, give

938
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: me something fun to talk about. What's up, Rutger? Cool name,

939
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: by the way, I think that's the that's I think

940
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: I would say after the actor ter an Hour in

941
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: four less. All right, so you're named after an action

942
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: movie stars, so you gotta have a good quote for me.

943
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: What is it? Ah? It is get ready for surprise.

944
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: That's from Total Recall. It is the di it is

945
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: the head of the woman that he's pretending to be

946
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: at the airport. Very good, Thank you, sir, Thank you well,

947
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: thank you, and I want to thank you and keep up.

948
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Man. I appreciate a rocker. Thank

949
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: you for calling in and thanks for playing action movie

950
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: quote Friday. Team, gonna hit a break, finish up on

951
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: some last thoughts on the national security side, and we're

952
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: gonna talk politics and then we'll get into some fun stuff.

953
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: So stay with me and into the Islamic State more

954
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: with Uh, some of the Islamic State in Afghanistan, more

955
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: with with Bill, but we went along on some other issues.

956
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: So a few thoughts on that ISIS and Afghanistan is

957
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 1: a minor player compared to the Taliban, but of course

958
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: ISIS anywhere is a cause for concern. They refer to themselves,

959
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: by the way as uh Willia chorus on Williot is

960
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: the old Ottoman provincial designation. Why would they use the

961
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: Ottoman provincial designation. Why would the Islamic State in afghanistana

962
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: for herself as williatt Korista korassan because it says it's

963
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 1: the new caliphate. The last caliphate before the Islamic State

964
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: was the Ottoman Empire. That's the way that they have

965
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: come up with that nomenclature. Chorussan is very interesting. By

966
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: the way, Chorussan roughly refers to the area of the

967
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: stands Afghanistan, uh Iran, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan. There there's not it's

968
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: not an official area. It's more of a general area. Um.

969
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: But Korassan is a prophecy in the hadith. The hadith

970
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: are the attributed sayings of the prophet Mohammad, not what

971
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: is in the Koran. The hadith is a whole separate

972
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: body of Islamic religious literature that is about the Isna.

973
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: Which is is not is the chain of the person

974
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: to moh to Mohammed. And so if it's a person hurt,

975
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: a person who knew Mohammed says right, that's and that's

976
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: that's considered the is not. It's like their version of

977
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: the game Telephone. Um. But of course for religious text

978
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: and Chorusson is referred to in the hadith and some

979
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: of the sayings attributed to the prophet and his immediate

980
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 1: followers as a prophecy of well the end of the world. Um.

981
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: It is the hadis that deal with Korassan are the following.

982
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: If you see the black banners coming from Chorusson, go

983
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: to them immediately, even if you crawl over ice, because

984
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: indeed amongst them is the Mahdi. The Mahdi is their

985
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: their redeemer. The Mahdi is their end of the world figure,

986
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: their end of days figure. And so that's one of

987
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: By the way, that's also where the black flag that

988
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: you will see that you hottest are so fond of.

989
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: Um it is the black flag comes from this hadith

990
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: having to do with Chorussan. And there's a book that's

991
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: been that that has written the black Banners that I've

992
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: i own and I've read I'd recommend to all of

993
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: you as well. Um that's where Korassan comes from. And uh,

994
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: there's also another there's also another hadith that says that

995
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: the black flags will come from the east led by

996
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: mighty men with long hair and beards. Their surnames are

997
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: taken from the names of their hometowns, and their first

998
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: names are from a kuna um. So there norm to

999
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: get a battle name and you know the battle name

1000
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: and the town that they're from. Think about a lot

1001
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: of jihatas you know right, it's always Abu something, the engineer,

1002
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: Abu something, the doctor or that was something, the Moroccan

1003
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: or I was something that. That's the way that the

1004
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: Jihatas take their their names. Um. But eventually, if you

1005
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: believe this Hadith prophet from Korassan, Afghanistan, it surrounding area

1006
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: a an army is supposed to rise up that will

1007
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: go all the way to of course Jerusalem. And then

1008
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: once the army reaches Jerusalem, the Mahdi, this messianic figure

1009
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: will show up. There's a great battle, and then we

1010
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: are at the end of days. That is what a

1011
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: lot of Jihattists get into. That's what they believe, and

1012
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: that's why they have these black flags, and that is

1013
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: why they refer to and Bin Lawden when he signed

1014
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: his declaration of war against the United States when he

1015
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: was in Afghanistan, did not sign it from Afghanistan. He

1016
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: signed it from Korassan. So it's important to understand their terminology,

1017
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: their ideology, and will do more of that here. He's

1018
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: an ex CIA officer who knows how to outsmart the

1019
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: enemies of liberty have very particular set of skills. Buck

1020
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: Sexton with America now team, your mission, should you choose

1021
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 1: to accept it, called the Freedom Hunt Operations Center nine

1022
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: hundred buck make contact the pleasure under hostile Surveillance D

1023
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Speaker 1: to eight to five. Right, everybody, welcome back. We're joined

1024
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Speaker 1: by our friend Caitlin Colin. She is the Daily Callers

1025
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Speaker 1: White House reporter. Callen, great to have you, Thank you

1026
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: very much. All right. The story that I see CNN

1027
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: running with big banners headlines, oh so interesting is the

1028
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: White House visitor logs. What is going on here? Yeah,

1029
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: the White House has decided to not publicly disclose the

1030
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: visitor longs anymore. Now this is making news because in

1031
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: two thousand nine, Barack Obama started releasing them and every

1032
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: ninety every month they would post who had been at

1033
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: the White House in the last ninety days or so,

1034
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: and the list would say, you know who it was,

1035
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: who they met with, what time they checked in, what

1036
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: time they checked out. But these logs are known by

1037
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: reporters to be imperfect, because if your name was on

1038
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: the list and you were cleared to go to the

1039
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: White House that day but you didn't go, your name

1040
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: still showed up as you and it looked like you went. However,

1041
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: people are saying that by doing this, the Trump administration

1042
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: is not being transparent enough to the public. What's the

1043
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: Trump administration's rationale for this? Why are they changing this policy?

1044
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: Which is I understand it was the Obama administration did

1045
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Speaker 1: publish visitors logs, but there were worries around it, right,

1046
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: I think that's what happened. Yes, the reason the Trump

1047
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: administration says they don't want to publish these is because

1048
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: there are grave national security risk and privacy concerns. Administration

1049
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: officials on background today argued that the president has a

1050
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: right to see people and not publicly disclose it, so

1051
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: they're not going to disclose those But you're right, the

1052
00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: Obama administration did disclose these records, but they maintain the

1053
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: right to take off you know, if a celebrity came

1054
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: to visit, or if they were doing nominations for judges,

1055
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: they could take those people's names off the list so

1056
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: they wouldn't show up. But the list did show some things.

1057
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: I wrote a report last month about how many times

1058
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: the Russian Ambassador Surgy kiss Ley I had visited the

1059
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: White House during the Obama year. Now that was news

1060
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: because Mike Flynn came under fire for meeting with him

1061
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: and then not telling vice President might sense about it.

1062
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions also met with him as a senator. So

1063
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Speaker 1: this is when, you know, Democrats were all in a

1064
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Speaker 1: flurry about people meeting with this Russian ambassador, and we

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Speaker 1: just pointed out that he was really welcome at the

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Speaker 1: White House during the Obama year. Donald Trump even went

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Speaker 1: to the link to point this out on his Twitter.

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Speaker 1: He tweeted out this message that Sergey kiss Like had

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Speaker 1: been there at least dozens of times. And you know,

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Speaker 1: isn't that interesting. But Donald Trump would not have known

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Speaker 1: that he had been there if Barack Obama had not

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Speaker 1: disclosed the visitor locks. So it is a little give

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Speaker 1: and take on both sides. I think the Democrats are

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Speaker 1: being a little breathless and they're reporting about the businito logue,

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Speaker 1: but they do point out who is at the White House,

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Speaker 1: and it's nice to know who's visiting the president. I

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Speaker 1: would wonder why the White House wouldn't just take the

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Speaker 1: position that, well, like the previous administration, will publish names

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Speaker 1: unless we don't want to publish them. Right, So if

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Speaker 1: you're meeting with yeah, I mean a little, a little,

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Speaker 1: a little slight of head here goes a long way.

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Speaker 1: It's clearly what the previous administration did. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's interesting to see that they're making this move. But

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Speaker 1: a lot of interesting moves going on at the White House,

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Speaker 1: which brings me to my next line of inquiry for you.

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Speaker 1: And Caitlin's there, everybody just see, you know, in the

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Speaker 1: in the press scrum and uh and and throwing elbows

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Speaker 1: with New York Times, Washington Post reporters in the West wing.

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Speaker 1: But she's very very polite and lady like. She doesn't

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Speaker 1: throw elbows, but you know what I'm saying, guys. Uh

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Speaker 1: And so she's she's there on the scene. And we

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Speaker 1: have a lot of palace intrigue reporting and last week

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Speaker 1: or so including the ascendant of is it Gary Cone

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Speaker 1: or Con I've heard it both Cone? Okay, Gary Cone. Um.

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Speaker 1: He is a former Goldman Sachs guy, and I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: reading a lot of analysis that he is now uh well,

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Speaker 1: he is getting closer and closer to the the ultimate

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Speaker 1: circle of Trump power. Yeah, this is a guy that

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump sees as a deal maker. And as we

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Speaker 1: all know, Donald Trump sees himselves as a deal maker.

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Speaker 1: So Gary Cone has just established himself a presence in

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Speaker 1: the White House, and it's clear that he has the

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Speaker 1: president's ear on something. Now. This has called some iron

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Speaker 1: for his supporters who don't like Gary Cone. They think

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Speaker 1: he's more of a globalist and they don't think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's nicknamed carbon tech Gary in the White

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Speaker 1: House because they think that he is someone who is

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Speaker 1: on the establishment side and not on the Donald Trump side.

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Speaker 1: That god, Donald Trump at the white House. So it's

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Speaker 1: pretty interesting. That's definitely become a thing. But there is

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Speaker 1: a lot of pals injury about Donald Trump's White House

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Speaker 1: and they don't want us focusing on that. They don't

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Speaker 1: think that's what's important. That's why there is a feud

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Speaker 1: last week with between Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner and

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01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: you could kill Donald Trump got frustrated with it and

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Speaker 1: tried to publicly distance himself from Steve Bannon this week.

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Speaker 1: So it is interesting. It seems like almost weekly it's

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Speaker 1: changing who's rising and who's falling in the White House.

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Speaker 1: We've been seeing whispers in the press now for days

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Speaker 1: about the possibility of Bannon's departure, i e. Bannon getting

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Speaker 1: the boot out of the White House. Do you have

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Speaker 1: any any additions to those to those stories, or do

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Speaker 1: you have any of your own personal analyzes or inclinations

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Speaker 1: to offer up on this. Well. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: a good idea to pick a fight with the president's

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Speaker 1: son in law, who has, you know, several jobs in administration,

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Speaker 1: and I think that may have been what Steve Bannon did.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to see him exit his

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Speaker 1: role at the White House anytime soon, but it's clear

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Speaker 1: that his influence on the president has been diminished a

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Speaker 1: little bit. The President doesn't like to be undermined or

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Speaker 1: seemed like he's not the one in charge, and we've

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Speaker 1: had a lot of covers lately about how powerful and

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Speaker 1: how influential he's been in it. He's even been nicknamed

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Speaker 1: President Bannoned by the press. That's something Donald Trump doesn't like.

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Speaker 1: And we're seeing him lose that influence because you know,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has changed his mind and a few things

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Speaker 1: this week that he's stepped by in the campaign, China

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Speaker 1: being a currency manipulator, NATO Middle East interventioned those are

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Speaker 1: things that are more typical of a conventional Republican president.

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Speaker 1: So you can definitely tell that Steve Bannon has lost

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Speaker 1: his influence a little bit in the White House. And

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Speaker 1: what can you tell us about the latest with Carter Page?

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Speaker 1: And Lewandowski is the one who introduced carter Page to

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Speaker 1: the campaign. What he's been given all these speeches that

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Speaker 1: are giving all these interviews this week having to do

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Speaker 1: with his possible Russia or Russia connections. What what is

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Speaker 1: the status the Carter Page situation? Yeah, the Daily Caller

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Speaker 1: actually broke that story yesterday. Our reporter Chuck Ross is

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Speaker 1: the one who said that Corey LENDLCI was the Trump

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Speaker 1: officials who introduced Carter Page to the campaign's policy director.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't something that was known beforehand. And you're right,

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Speaker 1: Carter Page has slowly but surely been making a lot

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Speaker 1: of appearances lately. Same with Corey LENDLKI, and even Roger

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Speaker 1: Stone has been doing the interview round this week. So

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Speaker 1: it is interesting. These are people that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people forgot even worked on the campaign because it was

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Speaker 1: so long ago and Donald Trump went through other campaign managers.

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Speaker 1: But it definitely has become a big source of intrigue. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: does anyone even know did anyone even know who Carter

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Speaker 1: Page was until his name came up in the context

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Speaker 1: of these Russia Trump counter intelligence investigation pieces. I had

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Speaker 1: never heard of this guy. I followed the election pretty closely. No,

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Speaker 1: that's definitely true. I think a lot of people just

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Speaker 1: picked it up because you know, everyone's looking at Paul

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Speaker 1: Mana for it right now. And if he had ties

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Speaker 1: to Russ said what the depth of those types work?

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Speaker 1: And that's how Carter paid. His name has come up

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Speaker 1: in all of this. M Well, we'll have to keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on that, anything else that you're working on,

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01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: or anything else that you think everybody should be paying

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Speaker 1: attention to in the days, in the coming days for

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Speaker 1: the White House. I never pretend to predict what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen in this White House. Yeah, well, what's it

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Speaker 1: like down there these days? By the way, Well, what's

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Speaker 1: the vibe, Caitlin? Bring bring us into, bring us into

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Speaker 1: the West wing a little bit. It definitely was a

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Speaker 1: little tint in the briefing room this week. As you know,

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Speaker 1: there was a whole Hitler incident. Was John Spicer telling

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Speaker 1: reporters that assad you know, was worse than Adolf Hitler was,

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Speaker 1: and he apologized for that. But of course people are

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01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: harping on his comment, even though he apologized three or

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Speaker 1: four times on CNN to Greta Ancestra and multiple times.

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Speaker 1: But so it's definitely become a little bit awkward in

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Speaker 1: the briefing room this week. All right, we'll see what

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Speaker 1: happens next week. Caitlin, keep up the good work. Please

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Speaker 1: come back and tell us more about what's going on

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Speaker 1: down there in DC, Caitlin Collins, everybody is the Daily

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Speaker 1: Callers White House reporter. She is at Caitlin Collins on Twitter. Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: great to have you. Thank you so much for calling,

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01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: and have a have a good weekend. Happy Easter. Happy

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Speaker 1: Easter to you two. Uh. Team phone lines are open

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Speaker 1: eight four to eight to five. We'll be back right

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Speaker 1: after the break. Al Right, team Buck, It's Friday, so

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Speaker 1: we're gonna start talking about just some interesting stuff. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna be wedded to the news cycle for the day, though.

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Speaker 1: You can ask any news questions or talking about anything

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Speaker 1: you want, obviously action movie quote Fridays. In effect, your

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Speaker 1: calls are flying in on that one. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: One one tweet that I thought was worth mentioning to

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Speaker 1: you is this guy, uh, Jeffrey Lewis, who is at

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Speaker 1: the Middlebury Institute of International Studies. Sweet out, Stop being

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Speaker 1: weird about the eleven ton moab. For some perspective, here's

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Speaker 1: a B fifty two starting to drop eight one thousand

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Speaker 1: pound bombs, which would be eighty one thousand pounds of

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Speaker 1: ordinance on a target. So, yeah, every needs because people

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01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: are saying, oh, it's like a war crime. Use a moab. No,

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01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: it's just a big bomb everybody, as you know, but

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Speaker 1: the leftist progressive type, sir, being weird about it, all right.

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Speaker 1: Lots of action movie quote Brian in Massachusetts, What do

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Speaker 1: you got? Hey, got an easy one for you? Are

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Speaker 1: you ready? Okay, I'll take it, easy one. Sure, hot shot?

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Speaker 1: Uh a Speed Dennis Hopper when he has taken not

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Speaker 1: Kiana Reeves but his partner. Believe you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: Bill Pullman. It's a guy who looks like Bill Pullman.

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Speaker 1: Hostage Um. Great. By the way, Speed is a very

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Speaker 1: watchable but completely absurd movie, but very watchable. Yeah you know,

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, that would be a good one

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Speaker 1: as an intro. Yeah, I appreciate thank you. There we go, alright,

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Speaker 1: anything else in your mind? Brian chill to thank you?

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Speaker 1: Rock and roll dude. Thank you. Have a good weekend.

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Speaker 1: Brent in New Mexico. Oh, what's up, Brent? Hey? But

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Speaker 1: she'll tie man. Hey, dude, I'm pretty close to the

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Speaker 1: same age. And I know I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: action movie quotes, but I gotta give you credit on

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Speaker 1: that total recall one, man, that was pretty clutch. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. There's I think the boys got some skills.

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Speaker 1: What can I tell you? Yeah, it's pretty good. I

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Speaker 1: got one for you, and I thought, you, what's the

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Speaker 1: matter the c I got you pushing? Pushing too many pencils.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's Predator. That's Carl Weathers and Arnold Schwarzenegger

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Speaker 1: squaring off, both at their at the peak of their

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Speaker 1: physical prowess. Uh, incredible scene. Predators one of my That's

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Speaker 1: the top five action movie for me. So I've seen

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Speaker 1: that one so many times it's almost embarrassing. Maybe it

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Speaker 1: is embarrassing, but it's an amazing movie and the score

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Speaker 1: is excellent. I should want the music in that. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's some movies where the music we just kind of

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Speaker 1: we just assumed that it was it was gonna be

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Speaker 1: awesome because we're so used to it. Predators one of them.

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Speaker 1: The Star Wars music the original Star Wars was so good,

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Speaker 1: you know, it really makes a big difference. The score matters.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when I was young, I used to just

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Speaker 1: get in the jungle all day long, and I always

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Speaker 1: thought us all the Predator every scene when they just

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Speaker 1: showed the jungle, I can well, it's it's amazing too.

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Speaker 1: That technology has been emerging for a long time of

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Speaker 1: using light refraction as a form of camouflage, and we

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Speaker 1: haven't really fully gotten there yet, but they've been experimenting

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Speaker 1: with it. And you know, essentially, also if you ever

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Speaker 1: go back and watch that, there's a YouTube documentary that's

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Speaker 1: not that long that has the making of the movie Predator,

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Speaker 1: and they take you through all these all these different

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Speaker 1: parts of it. First of all, those guys were all

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Speaker 1: very competitive with each other, all those actors, they're all

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Speaker 1: like lifting weights offset to see who was, you know,

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Speaker 1: the most the most jacked on film. And and also

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Speaker 1: the the initial suit was much more mechanical looking. They

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Speaker 1: ended up going with this a sort of lizard like Predator,

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Speaker 1: but the the suit was too heavy and when they

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Speaker 1: were filming it would sink into the jungles they had

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Speaker 1: to throw out the original predator entirely, and the one

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Speaker 1: they ended up with was much cooler looking. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: heard it. I heard they had to reshoot like a

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Speaker 1: turn of it. Yeah, they did have to do some reshoot. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: that's on it's a free on YouTube. You can check

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Speaker 1: out the documentary. Thank you for calling in, Brent Shields.

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Speaker 1: I oh wait, there's something else, Brent. There, I see something.

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Speaker 1: There's something. Go ahead, go ahead of me to cut

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Speaker 1: you off. What else you got? Well, no, I was

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Speaker 1: actually listen to your CNN news alerts and it has

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01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren on there talking about how she wants to

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Speaker 1: uh meet with the general's about why they used this

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Speaker 1: bomb and why the timing of this bomb, And I

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01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: just thought that was well, we we've got We've got

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01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 1: some more on audio for you. You You asked, We're asked,

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01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: and you shall receive. My friend, we're all trying to

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01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: understand what is the strategy. If we can't, it's sort

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01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: of hard to make that a message. One of the

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01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,480
Speaker 1: things we want to know is what was the impact

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01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: on civilians. I think it's it's powerfully important. You know.

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01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: You go back to General McCrystal talking about UH the

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01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: importance of knowing who gets killed in these attacks, because

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01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: that's the real question about our future safety. He's going

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01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: to be out there and fighting us in the future. No. No,

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01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: this this was on a cave complex in the middle

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01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: of nowhere that was being used by the Islamic State.

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Speaker 1: I do not think that this is a civilian casualty

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01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: likely strike. I think it's also interesting that she is

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01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: obviously subscribed to that theory that by fighting terrorists we

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01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: create more terrorists, which if one, if one believes that

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01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: we should just surrender right away because everything, everything we

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01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: do creates more terrorists, you know, saying that we don't

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01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: want Uh are you there? Am I talking to myself? Brent? Oh?

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01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: There are right. I didn't know if you were still

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01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: still lit on this right anyways, see Elizabeth Warren, you

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01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: were saying, go ahead, Well where is she? I mean,

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Speaker 1: others are the fact that she's a direct descendant of

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Speaker 1: true Native American warriors? What what does she know? What

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01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying? The left loves her. I mean, she she

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01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 1: gets so much credit from progressives and she's the she's

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01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: like the female Bernie Sanders. Hey, what do you mean?

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01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, but I'm just saying she's like

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01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: a female Bernie Sanders situation in terms of politics, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I find her to be to be

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01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: Hillary in so many ways, actually just Hillary with a

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01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: little bit more of a of a progressivism instead of

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01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:19,799
Speaker 1: a um, a grasping crony ist, uh sort of personal,

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01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 1: more cantilist approach to everything. But yeah, that's what I see,

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Speaker 1: chill Ti Brand. Thank you for calling him that. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thank you, Amber in Washington. You are on

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01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: the buck sex and show welcome Hi Bucks. Feel tilly

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01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: for you. All right, let's see what you got, alright.

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Speaker 1: I apologize that this has been done. I try and

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01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: listen to your podcast. I don't know if that's okay. Alright.

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01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: The line is red bag, the red bag stuff right there.

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01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's a pretty tough line to give me.

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Speaker 1: It's just no, tell me the movie and first of all,

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01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: hit the hit the end. Yeah, I know, I'm the worst.

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Speaker 1: What what what what's the it's born identity, okay, I

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01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: mean definitely an action No, definitely an action movie. You're

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01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: you're well within the guidelines here, and as a as

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Speaker 1: a line, it's that's that's okay. I'm gonna give it

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Speaker 1: to you. I think you. I think you snuck one

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01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: in here and I get one on the on the

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01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: lost board. That's all right, you know you you took

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01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 1: the master down, but he'll be back one seven. I've

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01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: got a seventy victory ratio today. But we'll see what

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Speaker 1: we'll see. Thanks, Ambrashields High, Thank you so much for

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01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: calling in. Have a great have a great week, and

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01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: happy Yester to you and your family. Uh yeah, Elizabeth,

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01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren, M Elizabeth Warren. I don't know. Um. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I see here, Susan Surrandon says that she

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Speaker 1: was harassed for play play this. What is this clip?

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Speaker 1: Seventy thing you supported, Bernie, Yeah, okay, this is on

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01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: the view Okay, a sign in the in the general election.

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01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: So you know you took a lot of heat for that,

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01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: because really you really did people. Are you happy now? Actually?

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01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: I think it's it's happened to walk past Susan surrounding

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01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: on the street a few days ago in New York City,

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01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: So it's kind of funny that here I am on

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01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: radio talking about it. Um. One thing we New Yorker's

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01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: pride ourselves on is when we see people people that

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01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: are are whatever, I guess you call them famous. When

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01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: you see celebrities, you just you pay less attention to

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01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: them than you would like just an everyday person on

1347
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,759
Speaker 1: the street because who cares, um, unless you see Bernie Sanders.

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01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: Because that was kind of fun and exciting. I already

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01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:45,879
Speaker 1: told you about that one. But it was Bernie sensors.

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01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: But you know, you know it's joy Behar. She's like,

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01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: the hail of meat supporters was so mean? Do you?

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01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, I guess I guess some of the

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01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: other supporters probably were mean. It was. It was a

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01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 1: nasty primary all around. It really was on both sides. Um,

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01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: that's anything, nothing to do with anything. I just that's

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01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: the first view clip I feel like I've played on

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Speaker 1: the show. Maybe ever, Alright, we're gonna talk about some

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01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: funny progressive stuff coming up here. I might get into

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01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: not just the Wellesley op ed and free speech, which

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01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: you want to hear about, but also women's colleges. What's

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01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 1: it like to go roam around as a man? I'll

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01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: tell you, Buck Sexton with America. Now the Freedom Hut

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01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 1: is fired up as team Buck assembles shouldered as shoulder

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01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 1: shields high call in eight four four d buck that's

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Speaker 1: eight four four to eight to five. Then CNN and

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01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: others are really pushing this. North Korea vows merciless response

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01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: if provoke line. North Korea is always vowing that. North

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01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: Korea says the craziest crap on the planet all the time.

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01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: Why is everyone I really think they're just they're they're

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01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: hyping this thing up. Now, Okay, yeah, so there's some

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Speaker 1: stuff going on, but yeah, I don't I don't believe it.

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Speaker 1: Well something I don't believe. I just think that they're

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01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: they're running with this because it was scary headline. Let's

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01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,600
Speaker 1: talk about some other stuff. John and California on the

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Speaker 1: I Heart app. What's up, sir, Hey, book, Hey, book,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? I'm good John, How are you

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01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 1: doing great? Doing great? Hey? I wanted to get back

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01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: to you and you had that interview with the authors

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Speaker 1: Silenced You the other day, and that was really interesting

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01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: because he's been making the rounds all over the place

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Speaker 1: with a lot of your colleagues, you know, I guess contemporaries,

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01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: and you're the only one who got something really unique

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01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 1: out of them, to where it seems like the point

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01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: was not about the campus crazies. But you pushed him

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01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, a little like a little far, and

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01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 1: it became, well, the campus crazies are crazy, but here's

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Speaker 1: what you really have to worry about. It's the quote

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01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: unquote al right. I thought that was so interesting, And

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Speaker 1: you're the only one I've heard that got that out

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Speaker 1: of him. Thank you. Well, you know, I I do

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01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 1: have some experience in an interrogation and an intelligence collection,

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01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: so there's that. But also I will say that the

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Speaker 1: moment that I said that that Brown is a comic factory,

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Speaker 1: and I could tell he was kind of like, uh,

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01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: excuse you know, he wasn't anybody on the right who

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01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: knows anything about Brown University, And I could sit here

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01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: and go over some stories that Brown is among the

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Speaker 1: most progressive leftist schools, certainly well known progressive leftist schools

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Speaker 1: in the country. So I knew there was a problem

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01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: already with that, Like what do you what do you mean?

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01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: Brown is not super liberal? Dude? Like, come on, what

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01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: are you gonna tell me next? That you know ober

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01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: learn Oberlin is is churning out constitutional you know, Republicans,

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01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: and uh, you know what, Wesleyan has gotten rid of

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01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 1: the naked dorm. I mean, give me a break, no,

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01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 1: but but you know, I thought it was very interesting

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01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: because this is among all of the fallacious arguments that

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01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: you come across when dealing with things on either the

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01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: culture wars level or even on international relations. Um. I'll

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01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: give you the example. You know, when you talk when

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01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 1: I talk about Islamism and radical Islam, people just that

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01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 1: they think they're really smart when they say, well, and

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Speaker 1: all there are there are Christians. There are Christian terrorists too,

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01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: you know, look at like, you know, like the Oklahoma

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01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: City bomber, and I'm like, okay, well, first of all,

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01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: that was decades ago, so start there. So so you're

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01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: reaching a little far back for your your prototypical Christian terrorists.

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01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: He wasn't a Christian whole separate discussion. He just happened

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Speaker 1: to be a white guy from America, which everyone assumes

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01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: means that he's a believing Christian, I guess in the

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01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: liberal media or those you know what about what about

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01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: hill top settlers and uh in Israel? And it's just

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01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, the the false equivalency game is one of

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Speaker 1: the most maddening arguments because it's so obviously intellectually dishonest,

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01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 1: but it's a way that people comfort themselves and not

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01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: having to deal with the flaws in in the argument

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Speaker 1: that they want to push or or in the defense

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Speaker 1: that they want to make. And that's where we went

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Speaker 1: with this guy. All of a sudden, he's telling me

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01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: that the alt right does this too, And I'm like, well,

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01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: we're talking about college campuses and shutting down speech, and

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Speaker 1: you're you're telling me that that doesn't happen on campus,

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01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: but it would happen, but you have no evidence of that.

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Speaker 1: And and by the way, I would offer that doesn't

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01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: happen on campus because, uh, when campuses were considerably more conservative.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let me say this to you, John. You know,

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Speaker 1: there was a war memorial at Amherst College, and I

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01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: knew that there were students who are like, oh, we

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01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: have a war memorial on campus. And you go to

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01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,600
Speaker 1: some of these schools, uh, some of these I v

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01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: s and their equivalents in the Northeast, and there are

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01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people that signed up, that signed up

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01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: for World War One, World War two, Vietnam, and the

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01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 1: student body is always kind of you know, oh, we

1445
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: had all these people that were signing up to serve

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01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: their country. It's like, yeah, now you juxtaposed that with

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01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,959
Speaker 1: Harvard and others kicking r O t C off campus

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01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: decades ago, right, I mean, these schools had a very

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01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: different ethos. I can share another story with you about

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01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 1: a local UC campus here. Yeah, go for it, man,

1451
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: where it's Friday, we're hanging out. What do you got, Okay,

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01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: let's just call it u C l a um um.

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01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: You know they've had they kept the RTC program and

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01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 1: still there. I was just there about a couple of

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01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 1: months ago, and I noticed that it's in the same

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01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,080
Speaker 1: office of what I went there and they started to move, know,

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01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 1: a lot of the other I guess you can call

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01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: it more radical organizations in the same building around them.

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01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: It's like you walk into on the outside you see

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01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 1: r ot stuff in the window, and you look all

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01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: the other windows around it. It's almost like they're being

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01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: surrounded by whatever crazy cause with r OTC stuck in

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01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: the middle, almost under siege. That it was very interest

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01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 1: What are some of what are some of the other

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01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:25,480
Speaker 1: causes we're talking about here? Oh jeez, there's a Palestinian cause. Okay, yeah,

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01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: that type of thing. How do you know the usual

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01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: suspects here in the uc kah, I mean there were

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01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 1: these on amorous campus. Um and John shield time and

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for the call appreciated. UM And

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Speaker 1: uh wait, did John have an action movie quote to do?

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Speaker 1: I skip him on the action? Oh you do? John?

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Speaker 1: All right? Sorry, I didn't mean. I don't mean to

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01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: cut you off. What's your action movie quote? Okay, here

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Speaker 1: we go. It's it's an eighties thing. I think it's

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01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: right down the middle of a plate for you. So

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Speaker 1: you're ready. Oh man, I'm ready. I was born ready. Okay,

1477
01:21:52,920 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: it's a go take them down. I don't know. Is

1478
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 1: it in the line of fire? Not? I don't know

1479
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,600
Speaker 1: what is that? Oh no, it's it's Lee Marvin and

1480
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: Delta Force. Ah. That's that's that is down the middle

1481
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 1: of the plate. And you got me on that one.

1482
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: Is that the one where Chuck Norris is rocking the

1483
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: h the Jeane jacket without the sleeves and the double

1484
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 1: the double mini ouzy? Is that Delta It's Delta Force, right, Yes,

1485
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: that's what too? Free up? Yeah, I I have I

1486
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: have to say, I have yet to see anybody show

1487
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: up for for possible combat in a in a no

1488
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 1: sleeve jean shirt with double oozes that have. I think

1489
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 1: he had like leather holsters that were attached to the

1490
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: ouzies too. I mean it was really it was quite

1491
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: a quite a setup he had. But yeah, Delta force

1492
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: and and also a lot a lot of dudes rolling

1493
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: around on on motorcycles firing automatic weapons, which is which

1494
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: is pretty tough. You got it, right, Yeah, absolutely, Man,

1495
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: All right, John, thank you very much. She'll appreciate it. Uh, yeah, man,

1496
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 1: it's yeah. With that guy from I didn't meet. By

1497
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: the way, I tried. I wasn't trying to be uh

1498
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 1: unfair or or or belligerent with our guests from from

1499
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,560
Speaker 1: Silence you, but I just couldn't help. But all of

1500
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 1: a sudden, here we are. We're trying to fight against

1501
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 1: well at least that's how I see it, fight against

1502
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 1: this totalitarian impulse on campuses, where people think that they

1503
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: have a right to tell others what they can and

1504
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: cannot say in the realm of policy, never mind in

1505
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: the realm of personal discussion, and uh, you know, things

1506
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: that are are more um, I think that would be

1507
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: understandable to take more personally. We're talking about actual policy

1508
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: discussion and they don't, they don't want to hear it.

1509
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, I think this is a good place

1510
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 1: to trans Oh you no, I'm I'm gonna transition. But

1511
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: before I transition, he mentioned the various protest groups there

1512
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: was there were a number of ladies who were who

1513
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: were I don't know if they were grandmothers, but I

1514
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,440
Speaker 1: think people just called refer to them as the grands

1515
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: who were you know, up in years, distinguished ladies up

1516
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: in years, and they would just hang out in the

1517
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: town on the town green at Amherst College where I

1518
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: went to school. And what I always thought was interesting

1519
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: was they would they would have there were only a

1520
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: few of them, like four or five, and they would

1521
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: have signs for different causes. But it wasn't even one

1522
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: cause because that wasn't so it was like you once

1523
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: day and they're like, you know, free free Palestine, and

1524
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: you have another one over there. It was like no

1525
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: nuclear weapons and you have another one who was all free,

1526
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: free move you know, freemo Mia. That was actually one

1527
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: of the other the freem of Mia was one of

1528
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:37,719
Speaker 1: the issues. I remember. I was like, Mumia Abu Jamal,

1529
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: that's wow, that's I would not have expected that that's

1530
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: going to be right next to the no nuclear weapons signed.

1531
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: But sure enough, sure enough, there it was. Um, there

1532
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: was a lot of There was a lot of that

1533
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 1: the cause and it would change, right, the causes would change.

1534
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: And they would hang out in the town green. Oh my,

1535
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,879
Speaker 1: some of those protests. You know, I'd see some hippies

1536
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: out there. I'd smell the descented what was it, the

1537
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: patuli and other precented oils. You know, they would hang

1538
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: out the town green and and and substances would be

1539
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: in the process of being smoked as well. You could

1540
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: smell that as you'd walk by. And sometimes it was

1541
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: all fun, and sometimes it was great because it meant

1542
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: that they wanted to sell, you know, baskets that they

1543
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: had woven or glassware, or sell you some uh, some

1544
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 1: wonderful baked goods. Not with any funny stuff in there.

1545
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: Just baked goods, everybody, all right, No, none of that

1546
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: for me. Um. But they're also sometimes you'd show up

1547
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: and the hippies would be there and they were protesting something. Uh.

1548
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: And the protests around amer Scott got to be pretty

1549
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: acrimonious over time, especially after nine eleven. It all changed

1550
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: before nine eleven, It was all kind of PCU, which

1551
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: is a movie I recommend for you to watch. It

1552
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: was all kind of fun and games, and then after

1553
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: nine eleven it was it turned into a whole different thing.

1554
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: And I think I mentioned you there was a flat.

1555
01:25:54,840 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: I was at a what was a community um healing

1556
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: service of sorts, I don't even know what they call it,

1557
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 1: where people came together for members of the Amir's community

1558
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: who had lost loved ones in nine eleven, and there

1559
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: was a flag burning there. Kids showed up to burn flags.

1560
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: At that You had students getting up talking about their

1561
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: recently deceased loved ones recently like two weeks ago, and

1562
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of students showed up flags burning, uh,

1563
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: nine eleven, And this was the stuff they were talking.

1564
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: But I was standing right there. This is all first person.

1565
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: This is written up in the Boston Globe too. I'm

1566
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 1: sure if you want to the archives, you know, flag burning,

1567
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 1: Amer's College, nine eleven, it would all come up. Think

1568
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 1: about the mentality though, I mean this is right after,

1569
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:37,759
Speaker 1: right after nine eleven. I mean, I'm a New Yorker, um,

1570
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: I have a lot of my friends are obviously New

1571
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 1: Yorkers too. I was talking to my family that day.

1572
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 1: There were you know, jet fighters overhead, and and no

1573
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: one knew what was going on. It was all such

1574
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: a It was also anxious and tragic and horrible. And

1575
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: within a couple of weeks of that, you have people

1576
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 1: that are burning flags. It was and oh and burning flags,

1577
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: by the way, because of American imperialism and racism and

1578
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 1: the extermination of the Native Americans. That was one of

1579
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 1: the things that was a sign they're holding up you

1580
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: know that nine eleven is no justification for the more

1581
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: extermination of non white peoples around the world. That was

1582
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: what their whole their whole theme was. So they were

1583
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: Hampshire students, though they were not Ampsius and they were

1584
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: not actually amorsh College students that they showed up at

1585
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 1: AMers because if they did this at Hampshire, people wouldn't

1586
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 1: have paid as much attention, because it's just not a

1587
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: this is going to be kind of offensive, but it's

1588
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 1: just not a particularly serious institution. And I don't think

1589
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: any of these institutions are are all that serious these days,

1590
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: be honest with you. They're really expensive credential programs that

1591
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: are mostly young adult babysitting and partying. I mean, that's

1592
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: what it is. So many of these places now people

1593
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: come out of them and you know, what do you

1594
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 1: even study there? What? What's what's the purpose of all this?

1595
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: And anyway, that's conversation speaking of campus stuff. So um

1596
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 1: and I want I wanted to get to this because

1597
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 1: it's and this also ties into our discussion about silence

1598
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: you ah and here you go, um many, this is

1599
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: a Wellesley College. Hillary Clinton went to Wellsley. Wellsley is

1600
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 1: a very well known member of the Seven Sisters Schools,

1601
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: which are the all girls schools. That changed changed quite

1602
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: a bit after schools in general, particularly the I vys.

1603
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: The Ivy League schools went co ed and Amherst, which

1604
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: is not Ivy League but which is. People referred to

1605
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:31,600
Speaker 1: it as a little Ivy But I find that to

1606
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 1: be kind of, you know, pretentious and who cares? Uh.

1607
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: They Amerst went co ed and so then that changed

1608
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: the dynamic in that area. But Wellsley is still in

1609
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 1: all girls school Some people went to Wellesley. I'm sure

1610
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a fine place and the Wellesley

1611
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: College paper editorial board, so it wasn't just I'm assuming

1612
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't just one person that there were numerous hands

1613
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 1: on this piece, on this on the seditorial, um that

1614
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 1: various minds came together in it, and it is a

1615
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,879
Speaker 1: summation of so much of what is wrong on campus.

1616
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: They pulled it down. We found it though, because it's amazing,

1617
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 1: and I'm going to read to you from some some

1618
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: of its brilliant, amazing sections, uh, and we'll talk about

1619
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: this is the campus stuff. By the way, I always

1620
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 1: like to remind everyone of this, if you're listening, and

1621
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 1: whether you're twenty or seventy, um, this is just a

1622
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: this is now the distill because the faculty believes this

1623
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: stuff too. So what you see from the students is

1624
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: just a distillation of what the administrators and the faculty

1625
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 1: you are being taught. And oh, by the way, the faculty,

1626
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 1: the administrators in many cases go on to prominent roles

1627
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: or have prominent roles uh in government and and have

1628
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: prominent roles in the private sector too. They set on

1629
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,839
Speaker 1: the boards of companies, are treated, they're celebrated as important

1630
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 1: cultural uh and political figures. You know, you look at

1631
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: who goes to the top reaches of the government, national

1632
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 1: security and other aspects. I don't remember professors in there

1633
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 1: in their off time. You know, when the administration changes over,

1634
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 1: you go to sure there if people come out of

1635
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: the think tanks, but also some of them come out

1636
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 1: of these academic programs. So I will we will get

1637
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 1: into this editorial. We'll have some fun with it, and

1638
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 1: then I'll tell you some stories about being at the

1639
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: about the women's colleges, as being at the women's colleges,

1640
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: because man, that was some interesting that was some interesting stuff.

1641
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 1: My friends got Nate in North Carolina on w j

1642
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: h L. What's up, Nate, Hey Buck, how's it going? Good?

1643
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 1: Listening to you? Love you on Rush Limballs Show too,

1644
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: But thank you, Sally. What I wanted to talk about is, uh,

1645
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:46,839
Speaker 1: I think our foreign policy is fundamentally wrong, and Trump

1646
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: is wrong, and that I think we need a stronger NATO,

1647
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: not a weaker one, and we need to take the

1648
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: twenty five billion dollars a year that we and all

1649
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 1: our NATO allies give to the U n to basically

1650
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of tou corrupt dictators, and we need to

1651
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: huddle up amongst ourselves and when somebody once alone, we

1652
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,879
Speaker 1: give it to him under our conditions. When somebody talks trash.

1653
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: We make our fast response teams and we we eliminate

1654
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 1: him that way. But the U A and is pretty

1655
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: much the source of the most corrupt part of the world.

1656
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 1: And if we and and then and that's then look

1657
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 1: at the economic possibilities of all that also is just

1658
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 1: trading between our partners. And then eventually Russia and China

1659
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 1: they're also gonna say, hey, we want to play with

1660
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 1: you guys, so they'll be they'll kind of But to

1661
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 1: be fair, NAT hasn't hasn't. Trump said as of this

1662
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 1: week that NATO is no longer obsolete. I believe that's

1663
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 1: the direct quote, and that he understands the need for

1664
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,719
Speaker 1: NATO and he's looking forward to NATO taking a bigger

1665
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 1: role in fighting against Islamic terrorism. Yeah, but you know

1666
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 1: that NATO has its flaws and its problem thems and

1667
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 1: the problem is we're wasting all that money on the

1668
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: u N. We need to take every dime out of

1669
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 1: there and kick your thug brothers out of New York

1670
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 1: City and send them home. I gotta see, I don't

1671
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 1: know how much money. I don't know how much money

1672
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 1: we give to the U N I'm sure it's a

1673
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 1: substantial portion of the u N S, but we also

1674
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: of course give them. I don't know why it has

1675
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 1: to be this is a whole separate thing. I don't

1676
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: know why the UN headquarters has to be in in

1677
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: in New York City. That this is like the most

1678
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: dense place in the country in terms of population, and

1679
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:32,639
Speaker 1: when the UN General Assembly happens, this place is like, uh,

1680
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's like an armed camp. You can't get anywhere.

1681
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: So you know, what, why what they should? You know,

1682
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 1: the u n should be in like, I don't know,

1683
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 1: pick a Pick a city that could use the business

1684
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 1: and and has plenty of space and parking space. It's

1685
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 1: not New York That how about Zimbob Lake. Hey, but

1686
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 1: we the United States, we give them about six billion

1687
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 1: a year and that and now Obama jacked it up

1688
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 1: to about nine billions. And that's what we need to do,

1689
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 1: is take every dime and just huddle up. And that

1690
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: means and that means Turkey also, and we need to

1691
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: put our strategies together and and eventually they'll all come

1692
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 1: to us begging for that money. And if Egypt wants

1693
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 1: to shut down the Suez Canal, we tell him, I

1694
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 1: dare you whoa. All right, Nate is not is not

1695
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 1: piece through strength, He's just strength through strength. Are all right? Nate?

1696
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 1: Thank you for I was I was kidding. I was kidding, Dave.

1697
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 1: But thank you for calling in brother. I appreciate it,

1698
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Um what was I I'm gonna say? Um,

1699
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to get into Ah yeah, okay, the well,

1700
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: the well, the wellsy, let's get into the wells now.

1701
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 1: But it's like I got a minute orso, Okay, I'm

1702
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. We'll get into

1703
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 1: the wellsy thing here. So, um, Wellesley College. I'm gonna

1704
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 1: read you some of this. This is the editorial I'll get.

1705
01:33:58,360 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna read the whole thing. I'll read some

1706
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 1: piece of it and then we'll come back we'll talk

1707
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 1: about it. Because not only is this an example of

1708
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 1: the mentality that is so pervasive now on the left

1709
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 1: across the board, not just on campuses, and this is

1710
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 1: true in the major newsrooms, it's true all over the place.

1711
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: There's certain things you're just not allowed to say. Okay,

1712
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 1: here's the editorial, which they have pulled from general web

1713
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: access because they're just trying to stop what I'm sure

1714
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: are the mountains of mockery is your college. Students are

1715
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 1: putting it out there for everyone to read, and this

1716
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 1: is what happens. All right, here we go. Many members

1717
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 1: of our community, including students, alumni, and faculty, have criticized

1718
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 1: the Wellesley community for becoming an environment where free speech

1719
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:38,760
Speaker 1: is not allowed or is a violated right. Many outside

1720
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 1: sources have painted us as a bunch of hothouse flowers

1721
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:46,480
Speaker 1: who cannot exist in the real world. However, we fundamentally

1722
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: disagree with that characterization, and we disagree with the idea

1723
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 1: that free speech is infringed upon at Wellesley. Rather, our

1724
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: Wellesley community will not stand for hate speech, and we'll

1725
01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 1: call it out when possible. Um Wellesley students are generally correct,

1726
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 1: of course, in their attempts to differentiate what is viable

1727
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: discourse from what is just hate speech. Wellesley is certainly

1728
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: not a place for racism, sexism, homophobia, islamophobia, transphobia, or

1729
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 1: any other type of discriminatory speech. Shutting down rhetoric that

1730
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 1: undermines the existence and rights of others is not a

1731
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: violation of free speech. It is hate speech. Founding Fathers

1732
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 1: o She invoked the founding fathers put free speech of

1733
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 1: the Constitution as a way to protect the disenfranchised and

1734
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 1: to protect individual citizens from the power of government. Okay,

1735
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 1: the spirit of free speech is to protect the suppressed,

1736
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: not to protect a free for all, where anything is acceptable,

1737
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: no matter how hateful and damaging. Here it seems they're

1738
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: making the case. We'll get back into this, but that

1739
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: the speech of the majority can't be allowed if it

1740
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 1: is offensive to the minority. Ah, that's not how it works.

1741
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna give a little constitutional lesson for Wellesley. We'm

1742
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:04,799
Speaker 1: right back. Stay with me. He's an ex CIA officer

1743
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 1: who knows how to outsmart the enemies of liberty. What

1744
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 1: I do have very particular set of skills. Buck Sexton

1745
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 1: with America Now team your mission, should you choose to

1746
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 1: accept it, Call the Freedom Hunt Operations Center nine hundred,

1747
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 1: Buck make contact the plessure under hostile Surveillance D to

1748
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 1: eight to five. Oh, let's get back to this stuff.

1749
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 1: At Wellesley College for women, isn't it interesting though? If

1750
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 1: it's a college for women, what about those who are

1751
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 1: transitioning but have not yet transitioned. I know that Smith

1752
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 1: College and other women's college when I was a student

1753
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 1: Amorus removed any gender specific pronouns from the constitution, the

1754
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 1: student constitution, because they didn't want to be discriminatory. But

1755
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 1: it is a school only for women, and the school

1756
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: that did not want to be discriminatory. In the case

1757
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: of Smith College, UM, where I spent a fair amount

1758
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 1: of time, I can let you know, Ah, when I

1759
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 1: was a college student, UM, the school would make males

1760
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,799
Speaker 1: who came from other schools, namely Amerst U mass Amherst,

1761
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 1: Amherst College and you know, others from the area. We

1762
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 1: would have to show I D and be on a

1763
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 1: list and be checked in by security in the dorms

1764
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 1: as though we were visiting a a penal colony. But

1765
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,640
Speaker 1: we were the you know, but we were the problem, right,

1766
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 1: I mean it was they were trying to keep us out.

1767
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 1: We were the males, the X the x Y chromosome

1768
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 1: crowd were the riff raff. I remember that very distinctly. UM.

1769
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 1: And yet they removed gender from the constitution, so they're

1770
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,799
Speaker 1: they're trying to figure all this stuff out. Lovely campus,

1771
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: by the way, and Northampton is a great little town

1772
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,719
Speaker 1: off in Massachusetts with really good food for a town

1773
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 1: of that size, I must say, Um, so let's now

1774
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: get back into this editorial at Wellesley. So they pulled

1775
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 1: it down, which is never good because then then you're

1776
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 1: just you're just admitting to everybody that you can't take

1777
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: the heat. They should have just left it up because

1778
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 1: we would have gotten tired of it within a day

1779
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 1: or two. And by the way, I have no problem

1780
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 1: really laying into this as well, because I don't think

1781
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 1: there was any name attached to it. This was so

1782
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 1: the editorial board. So it's it's it's a collective. Uh,

1783
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 1: it's a collective feminist insanity going on here. It's not

1784
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: a it's not one person, it's a group of them.

1785
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,600
Speaker 1: So but that also, keep in mind, should mean you

1786
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:41,679
Speaker 1: would think that the writing is of a higher quality.

1787
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 1: Wellesley is, by reputation, an excellent school if you're listening,

1788
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 1: went to Wellesley. Apologies for for ripping on your your

1789
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 1: school a little bit, but it happens I ripped on

1790
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 1: my own school to rebot all these schools, all these plays.

1791
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 1: Let me say right now, all these four year degree,

1792
01:38:55,960 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 1: four year undergrad programs are are overpriced pty much and

1793
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: especially depending on what you spend your time they're doing

1794
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 1: and studying. Um, they've become this right of passage more

1795
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 1: than and people take out these huge loans and all

1796
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: the rest of it. Okay, back to back to Wellesley

1797
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: here for a second. So we quote, we have all

1798
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 1: said problem We have all said problematic claims, okay, the

1799
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 1: origins of which were ingrained in us by our discriminatory

1800
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 1: and biased society. Luckily, most of us have been taught

1801
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:32,679
Speaker 1: by our peers and mentors at Wellesley in a productive way.

1802
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 1: While it is expected that these lessons will be difficult

1803
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 1: and often personal, holding difficult conversations for the sake of

1804
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 1: educating is very different from shaming on the basis of ignorance.

1805
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 1: M okay, ish I guess uh that being said, this

1806
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,679
Speaker 1: is where things get really Oh no, sorry, that being said.

1807
01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 1: If people are given the resources to learn, and I

1808
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 1: there continue to speak hate speech okay, or refuse to

1809
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 1: adapt their beliefs, then hostility may be warranted. Oh look

1810
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 1: at that. So you you should be hostile. You should

1811
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 1: be hostile towards people if you don't like what they're saying.

1812
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:19,719
Speaker 1: That's what they're saying here. That that is the bottom

1813
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 1: line of this piece. That is the bottom line up front. Um,

1814
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:26,679
Speaker 1: there there is a a hostility here that we should

1815
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 1: all be able to understand where this comes from. If

1816
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:33,960
Speaker 1: they don't, if they don't like speech, Okay, Um, well,

1817
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 1: and then it goes on. This is this is the

1818
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 1: best line. Hat tip Jonah Goldberg for pointing pointing this out,

1819
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 1: because I'm I am asking right now. You can tell

1820
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: me what you think about this. It is important to

1821
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,639
Speaker 1: know this is a quote. It is important to note

1822
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 1: that our preference for education overbration regards students who may

1823
01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 1: not have been given the chance to learn. It is

1824
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 1: important to note that our preference for education overberation regards

1825
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 1: students who may not have been given the chance to learn.

1826
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 1: I don't what I don't under I don't even know

1827
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 1: what that means, not because I'm incapable of understanding, but

1828
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 1: because what does that mean? Um? And then it goes on. Rather,

1829
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 1: we are not referring to those who have already had

1830
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 1: the incentive to learn and should have taken the opportunities

1831
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 1: to do so. Paid professional lecturers and politicians are among

1832
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: those who should no better. Um. It is important that

1833
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 1: our preference for education overberation regards students. Oh okay, so

1834
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 1: I think what they're trying to say there is some

1835
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 1: students would not have been have given the opportunity to

1836
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 1: know that their ideas are unacceptable before they got to college.

1837
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 1: Which wow, okay, um, I want to know how they

1838
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 1: think they're supposed to parse that out. And by the way,

1839
01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that means that white males you are

1840
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 1: you do not get any benefit of the doubt at all.

1841
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 1: You're going to be in trouble. But like foreign students,

1842
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,679
Speaker 1: probably they would they would allow I guess a pass um.

1843
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 1: But the facility with writing in the English language in

1844
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 1: this piece is pretty minimal. Um. This is and and

1845
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 1: I've there are plenty of student papers that have writers

1846
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:20,440
Speaker 1: that are writing from that are that are good? Um,

1847
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 1: but yeah they Oh and then at the bottom it

1848
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 1: says we at the Wellesley News are not interested in

1849
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:28,679
Speaker 1: any type of tone policing written without irony or sense

1850
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:33,719
Speaker 1: of humor. Uh. These these kids, and they're they're adults.

1851
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 1: I don't like these kids things, because if you're eighteen,

1852
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 1: you're an adult. Okay, These young adults, they are being

1853
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:43,680
Speaker 1: told a lot of stuff that is not just untrue,

1854
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 1: but it is very damaging because they will take it

1855
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 1: with them out into the broader, broader world. And they

1856
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 1: will take it out and decide at the totalitarian impulses

1857
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 1: that were met with applause on these campuses should then

1858
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 1: be applied in the rest of life, and that in

1859
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 1: the rest of the life, that's really troubling. Um. What

1860
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 1: I was just talking to uh a friend recently about

1861
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 1: how one of the things that does separate us from

1862
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 1: other countries is you within pretty well established limits here

1863
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 1: when it comes to government interfere and although they're still

1864
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 1: there's debate on that, and I think the government actually

1865
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 1: these days limits more speech than it should. But you

1866
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 1: can get away with saying a lot here without the

1867
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:35,560
Speaker 1: government coming after you, the private sector punishing you, and

1868
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 1: people shaming you and everything. Well, that's that's that's also

1869
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 1: worthwhile part of the conversation. But at least the government

1870
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 1: will generally let you get away with a lot compared

1871
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:47,640
Speaker 1: to other countries, right, I mean, we're better on this

1872
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 1: than Canada, than Europe, certainly than any Muslim country. Um,

1873
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 1: free speech is better here than it is and a

1874
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 1: lot of you know, then you get into some other

1875
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: places like Thailand, you can insult the royal family and

1876
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 1: there's there for real about that. You know, you insult

1877
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 1: the king and you go to prison like so there's

1878
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:06,480
Speaker 1: there are countries where free speeches is non existent. Um

1879
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 1: and uh. It is one of the best parts of

1880
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,799
Speaker 1: this country and that we are letting this slip away

1881
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:17,759
Speaker 1: from us without more of a fight is deeply troubling

1882
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 1: to me. It's really bothersome and I I do think

1883
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 1: that there's this needs to be mocked, it really does.

1884
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 1: This is a The only way to make the point,

1885
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 1: I think, is to mock people who believe that they

1886
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 1: have this right to decide what is and is not

1887
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 1: acceptable speech. It's also why I'm consistent on this. I

1888
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,640
Speaker 1: don't believe in hate crime legislation. I don't believe in

1889
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 1: hate speech laws, and I don't think any of that

1890
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 1: is a good idea. I don't think any of that

1891
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 1: is a good idea because I knew exactly what would happen.

1892
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 1: And this is where we are now, where you have

1893
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 1: favored and disfavored groups, and you have the a really

1894
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:52,719
Speaker 1: Marxist approach to policing, not just speech, but to policing

1895
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 1: in general as a matter of criminal law. And it

1896
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 1: means that the law does not apply you glue to

1897
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:01,439
Speaker 1: all people. And that's that's very discouraging and very damaging

1898
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 1: onto a a a college story that I have here.

1899
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 1: So I remembered spending time at at Smith. I didn't

1900
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:15,160
Speaker 1: really spend much time amount Holyoke. So these are similar

1901
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 1: in in concept and in the general approach of the

1902
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,639
Speaker 1: student body. I think, to Wellesley, they're all Seven Sisters schools.

1903
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 1: The other ones are let me see if I can

1904
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:30,720
Speaker 1: do this Wellesley, Brent Marr, Holyoake, Smith, Uh, what's the

1905
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 1: one at Columbia, don't remember the name of it? And

1906
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 1: then I think is rat Ratcliffe? Was that? And then Harvard?

1907
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 1: I don't know I'm getting I'm Barnard, Yeah, Barnard. Hey,

1908
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm pretty close. So those are the women's though, those

1909
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 1: are the seven Sister schools, the women's colleges, and um,

1910
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:51,599
Speaker 1: I remembered I I spoke to um my little sister

1911
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 1: when she was looking at schools, and she was looking

1912
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 1: at colleges, and I had told her about my experiences

1913
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 1: going to these different places. And I think she assumed,

1914
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 1: understandably because I am conservative, that maybe I was exaggerating

1915
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 1: and uh, and that this was something that that she

1916
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: needed to see for herself. So she went and visited

1917
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 1: in an accepted students weekend at Smith and just relayed

1918
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 1: some just relayed some memories to me that I from

1919
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 1: from the campus that I remembered of of I think

1920
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 1: the exhibit was called sex Shibition, where they would have

1921
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 1: women who would take a photo. These are mostly for freshmen,

1922
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 1: I think, but it's it's to overcome the sexualization of

1923
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:43,640
Speaker 1: females in society by taking naked photos of students and

1924
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 1: then you know this is my choice obviously, and then

1925
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: posting them around it. But but I'm good. I mean,

1926
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 1: I mean naked, like naked, not just you know, not

1927
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 1: just the top half. My understanding is that they go

1928
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 1: fully fully songs, clothing, and that was that left in impression.

1929
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 1: I remember she said, you know, there's that a thing.

1930
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they that's a that's that's the thing that

1931
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 1: I've I've heard about there for sure. Um And I

1932
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 1: also remembered seeing when I was there this this not

1933
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 1: so subtle. I thought it was very clearly anti male

1934
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:22,639
Speaker 1: propaganda that existed. I remember being in the Of course,

1935
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 1: they don't have um, gender segregated restrooms, so think about

1936
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 1: that for a second too, Like you just use the

1937
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 1: bathroom and anywhere, you know, so you're just going to

1938
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 1: the bathroom and there's other people in the bathroom who

1939
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 1: were ladies. And you're in there and you know there's stalls.

1940
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 1: But because there were students who were even when when

1941
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 1: when I was there, students who were transitioning. That was

1942
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 1: a thing that was going on. Um, And there was

1943
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 1: no I do not think there was a student who

1944
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 1: was male who attended the all female school, but there

1945
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 1: were definitely female students who believed they were in the

1946
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:56,880
Speaker 1: process of transitioning to mail. That was that that existed there. Um,

1947
01:47:56,920 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 1: that was a situation that we had. Uh. But I

1948
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 1: remember seeing these posters up on the wall that were

1949
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 1: like do you really want to go to And I

1950
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 1: was like, hey, girls, do you really want to go

1951
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 1: over to Amherst? Why not stay here with you, you know,

1952
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 1: stay here with your your your fellow smith. Ease and

1953
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:14,599
Speaker 1: like have some cookies and drink some tea. And now, look,

1954
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm all for having some cookies and drinking some tea.

1955
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 1: If I have an addiction in life, it is probably

1956
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 1: to drinking whole milk and eating dark chocolate. I just

1957
01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 1: those are two things that's my thing. I I've been

1958
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:29,559
Speaker 1: in foreign countries, in in in dodgy places and uh,

1959
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, dangerous situations. And I'm like, you know, as

1960
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 1: long as i can get some access somewhere a little

1961
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 1: bit of even if it's that you know, that long

1962
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 1: long shelf milk that you can get in those have

1963
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:40,600
Speaker 1: been in third world countries and I'm talking about it

1964
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 1: comes in like the carton. It's not refrigerated until you

1965
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: open it and get some whatever. You can get dark

1966
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 1: chocolate anywhere. Um, then I'm pretty much good to go.

1967
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 1: You know. Then I've got all the all the for

1968
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 1: some guys that I knew out there, and then you know,

1969
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 1: when we get out in the field. That was all

1970
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 1: about having you know, some some Johnny Walker or having

1971
01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:00,720
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever, having season one of Entourage and

1972
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 1: a DVD player. For me, it was whole milk and

1973
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 1: dark chocolate. I just I just look, that's my that's

1974
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 1: my comfort zone. That's my that's my safe space. Whole

1975
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 1: milk and dark chocolate. But at Smith they had these

1976
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 1: these things up and I told you had to sign

1977
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 1: in like you were a convict that but you were

1978
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 1: a convict who was doing the visiting. You know, are

1979
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 1: you on the list, Let me see your I d

1980
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 1: and they alway said it was to the protect the students.

1981
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, you realize that, amberst We're having parties where

1982
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 1: people are running around half naked, like ten drinks in

1983
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 1: all over the place, and like no one has been

1984
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:31,760
Speaker 1: murdered yet. Like it's so it's okay, you know, this

1985
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 1: isn't I'm not saying that's the way to spend your

1986
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 1: college years. I'm also not saying it's not the way

1987
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:39,600
Speaker 1: to spend your college years, but as a safety precaution,

1988
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 1: it seemed very dubious to me. But so, yeah, but

1989
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, why don't you drink some tea? I'm all

1990
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 1: for having tea and cookies and hanging out, and especially

1991
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 1: as I get a little older here now this staying

1992
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,680
Speaker 1: out super late thing and all that is. You know,

1993
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm now like an old I'm a a thirty five

1994
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 1: year old, but I'm really like mentally a a fifty

1995
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 1: fifty eight year old at yes, something like that. Um,

1996
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: that's what I would That's where I put myself fifty

1997
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 1: eight maybe sixty. Uh yeah. A lot of a lot

1998
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 1: of anti mail propaganda at at the school because I

1999
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 1: always felt like that's what they were saying is don't

2000
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:15,080
Speaker 1: go hang out with the guys. That's really what That's

2001
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 1: really what it was. There was a lot of and

2002
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember some of the other little posters

2003
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:19,639
Speaker 1: they put up. All right, i gotta go into break.

2004
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:25,240
Speaker 1: I've run long on this. I'll be right back a team.

2005
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton dot com is up and going. It is

2006
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:30,640
Speaker 1: in full effect. You can check it out. I'll be

2007
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 1: posting there next week, planning post there every day. Myself

2008
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 1: as well as things from the show, will be posting

2009
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 1: clips and you can download the podcast there also. If

2010
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,720
Speaker 1: you're listening now, please do subscribe to the podcast. Really

2011
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 1: appreciate that. You can go on iTunes typing buck Sexton

2012
01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 1: with American Now and click subscribe and yeah, that would

2013
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:55,679
Speaker 1: that would be like great, that would be great, Thank

2014
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,000
Speaker 1: you so much. Uh. Or you can listen to the

2015
01:50:58,080 --> 01:50:59,720
Speaker 1: I Heart app of course you can play it on

2016
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 1: amand there as well. I'm trying to think of other

2017
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:06,560
Speaker 1: like fun. Oh at some point, and now this is

2018
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 1: kind of unfair because I'm telling you something and I

2019
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 1: won't be able to get Maybe next Friday, I'll have

2020
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 1: to remind myself and I'll tell you about the time

2021
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 1: when my my freshman college dorm and some of you

2022
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 1: are probably like buck with all the college stories, Oh,

2023
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 1: come on, they're fun. It's Friday. Uh, well, we'll get

2024
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 1: into a lot of serious policy, I promise you. First

2025
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 1: thing on on Monday on Monday's show. Um, but my

2026
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 1: my dorm was going to throw a party. But this

2027
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 1: all ties into what we talked about, to the campus

2028
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,879
Speaker 1: politics and all this craziness. And that guy from Silence

2029
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 1: you came on, who's like, he's like, well, the alt right.

2030
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, we're not. We're not talking

2031
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 1: about the alt right now. That's that's the no. No, no,

2032
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 1: that's not unless you got some all right on campus.

2033
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 1: For me, We're just not going to go there. That's

2034
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 1: not that's that's that. That is a diversion. That's not

2035
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 1: even a digression. That is a non sequitur to the conversation,

2036
01:51:56,120 --> 01:52:00,240
Speaker 1: Oh what's up? S a t words. So, uh, I'll

2037
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 1: tell you about the time that my dorm was going

2038
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 1: to throw a party and it was voted on by

2039
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 1: the by the members of the dorm. And I lived

2040
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:10,640
Speaker 1: in a very diverse dorm by the way, Um, it

2041
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:13,200
Speaker 1: was we were very it was a very diverse class.

2042
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:17,720
Speaker 1: We were forty three or forty four percent minority in

2043
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:21,679
Speaker 1: my class of four hundred or so. UM. I had

2044
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:24,759
Speaker 1: people from all over the world living on my floor

2045
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 1: as well as in the dorm, and they voted to

2046
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 1: throw a South of the Border party, which I'm thinking,

2047
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 1: this is great. We're gonna be drinking tequila and we

2048
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 1: get to do all, you know, all the all the

2049
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 1: fun stuff that one would be thinking. Margarida's chips and

2050
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 1: guac chips and salsa. You know, everybody likes these things.

2051
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 1: But then in the in the advertising of the party

2052
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:55,880
Speaker 1: phase and in the choice of what was going to

2053
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 1: be the decor, we and I did not have any

2054
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 1: personal stake in this or any personal decision making in

2055
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 1: that aspects of it. I was I may or may

2056
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 1: not have been in charge of trying to procure chips

2057
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 1: and sausa. That was what that was my role in this.

2058
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 1: I was just gonna be the food guy. Let's go

2059
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:16,760
Speaker 1: with that. UM. But they were, they were trying to

2060
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:20,280
Speaker 1: get all that stuff going, and we ran a foul

2061
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:22,880
Speaker 1: of the social justice warriors, and we were threatened with

2062
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 1: being picket and we were threatened with the cops being

2063
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 1: called on the party because of alleged underage drinking that

2064
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:30,720
Speaker 1: may have been occurring on a college campus. We may

2065
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,479
Speaker 1: have had to sit down with diversity educators. We may

2066
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 1: have had we may have been threatened with going to

2067
01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 1: diversity re education in in the classrooms, um, unless we

2068
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:43,640
Speaker 1: made some drastic adjustments to it. So I've given you

2069
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,280
Speaker 1: a beginning of the story. I I will maybe next

2070
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:48,280
Speaker 1: Friday I will be able to finish it. How about

2071
01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 1: that Friday's will have fun story time. But the South

2072
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 1: of the Border party that was that was good stuff.

2073
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:57,839
Speaker 1: We did throw the party, and there were some verging

2074
01:53:57,840 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 1: stuff along the way. I'll tell you a bit about that.

2075
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:01,919
Speaker 1: Those of you haven't seen it. As I was saying before, PCU,

2076
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,800
Speaker 1: great movie. Check it out sometime. UM, as we talked

2077
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:07,759
Speaker 1: about all this madness on campus. Next week, I'm expecting

2078
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,600
Speaker 1: a big week for the Trump administration. That Donald is

2079
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 1: gonna get it done. That's my prediction. We'll see how

2080
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 1: it all goes. More intrigue in the White House, International fairs,

2081
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 1: international relations. I think North Korea is gonna cool down

2082
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 1: a bit. We'll see if I'm right about that. Let's hope. So,

2083
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:23,599
Speaker 1: as I said, please download the podcast, go check out

2084
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:26,599
Speaker 1: buck saxon dot com. And also please give me your

2085
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:28,640
Speaker 1: email there so that I can include you when we

2086
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 1: start doing a newsletter for the Freedom Hunt. The Freedom

2087
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 1: Hunt Live, that's what's gonna be. Have a great weekend,

2088
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Speaker 1: have a great East of everybody, shields high