WEBVTT - will.i.am 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:04.160 Man, what's hand him? Man? You got Marshaw Bismall Lynch. 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:08.160 Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Knewsome and you're listening to politics. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:09.800 You know to be you're known to be. 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:20.360 Gavin. 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.439 It's interesting. I was on the heels of the debate 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:24.000 on Tuesday. 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:24.720 I know you're there. 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.080 I know Marsham was somewhere. I just got back from 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.400 a little trip here. What was the vibe like there 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:31.040 being there? 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.280 He got crushed. I mean Trump got crushed. He knows 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:35.120 and he knew it. I mean I was in the 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.680 spin room and all of a sudden, there's all this commotion. 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.320 I'm doing a live hit on NBC or MSNBC, one 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.400 of the two, and everybody looks over our shoulder and 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.680 there's this giant scrum because Trump came down to his 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:49.239 own spin room. And I'll tell you what it had been. 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.800 There's no greater tell than that. When you are the principal, 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.320 you're in the debate, You've got all these folks, they're 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.560 supposed to be doing that for you. He clearly was 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:59.440 trying to shape ship the fact that he got crushed, 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.600 and of course he came in as only Trump said. 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:03.160 He said it was the best debate he ever had. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.280 He was here in California, trash in California, at his 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.760 golf course, right on the coast, the Pacific Ocean behind him. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.559 More couldn't be more beautiful, saying it's the worst state 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:16.479 in the world, trash and everything about California, and said 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:20.200 he won the debate overwhelmingly. The polls represent that he 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.360 got crushed. It was an embarrassment. He looked weak. 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:24.120 Old goat explained it to me. So when you say 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.080 the spin room, so he walks, he leaves the stage, 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:29.240 and the spin room is what how many people are 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:29.479 in there? 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:30.080 Who's rooms? 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.240 It's in another room. So you got the convention which 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.680 is just down the road. He made his way all 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.760 the way up to the convention room, and you just 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.600 imagine hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of reporters and all 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:43.959 doing live shots from the all the spectrum, Fox News, 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:49.000 not just you know, ABC News and CNN. Everybody's there. 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.080 You got the Who's who the Republican Party. You got 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.080 RFK Junior there, he got Tulca Gabbard there, Vivek Ramaswami, 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.800 you got Doug Bergman all his surrogates, you got all 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:03.280 of us on the other side, and yeah, I mean 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.560 and everybody's spinning. Of course, for us it was a cakewalk. 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.040 I mean we walked in there big smiles on our face. 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.480 These guys had a hard time spinning the fact that 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.280 it was a good debate for for for Trump, it 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.120 was terrible. I mean, he looked. You can't look at 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.160 it objectively and not and not make. 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:21.920 That Trump have any words. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.280 No, I didn't. I would look forward to see them. 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.600 I want to have some words with him today after 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:28.840 he's trash in California. 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.240 You should have went and grabbed him gloves that I 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.760 was using out there in Cuba to fight them. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.840 Cackling those kids. By the way, let's talk about that. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.400 Where the hell was the ref You were tackling. 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:43.120 The kids and I had to play to my advantage. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.760 Yeah, two hundred pouds man, two hundred pouds man. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.519 Them little kids were shifty, man. But you should have 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.400 You should have grabbed some of them gloves and seen 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.200 if a batman can throw them hands. 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.640 Well, I'll tell you that the gloves that were throwing 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.560 or Harris through the gloves, she threw the glove. And 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.640 by the way, if it was a prize fight, Marshawn 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.639 It was a tko in the second round, she took 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.720 him down commanded the stage from the first second when 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.359 she walked right up to him and introduced herself as 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:16.320 Kamala Harris. 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:19.160 She she put it out there how to pronounce her her. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:23.800 He he's still the disrespect that that that ex president 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:24.760 has his next level. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:24.919 Man. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.480 But Gavin, after all this shit he talks about you, 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.000 do you ever feel like when you saw him in 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.839 the spin room to walk up to him and just say, hey, bro, 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.280 you got fucking crushed and look him in the eye 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:35.880 and walk out? 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.320 Or do you no, Gavin Bro, we from California. We 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.640 don't do no talking. So if you're gonna walk up, 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.640 you got a fire on blood. I ain't gonna even 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.080 hold you. So if you ain't gonna do that, then 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.400 you might as well. Just don't. Don't turn into one 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.840 of these internet gainsts. If you've seen it's on site. Damn, 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:52.440 you just gotta get off hella quick like. 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.000 Damn, that's what I'm saying. 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:55.720 You got to hit him with a club punch too. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.640 I don't know if you it's probably been a long 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.839 time since you've been in the club, but you get 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:01.640 in a club, you off a couple of them shots 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.000 of pa trenity. You get the little wobble like this, 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:08.760 and then you come overhand like this, right on that chin. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:10.640 If he could take that. 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:15.360 Oh god, you know I was looking at the verbal hits, 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.880 no physical hits. But I appreciate. And by the way, 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.960 when the Secret Service visits you, I just want to 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:25.119 make sure that we recognized that was Markshawn Lynch talking 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:26.120 about the physical. 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.200 Tell them they better make sure I ain't got a 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:29.720 little bit of all in me because I got a 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.280 club punch for they ass too. Have you ever been 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:37.000 in a Have you ever been in a real fight before? 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.400 Again, you see the scar right there, brother, right there, 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:41.839 sliding into home plate. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.159 No no, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about I'm 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:45.560 talking about got. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.520 Into it, got into it. That's a cleat right there, brother, 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.039 that's a cleat right there. Stitches. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:52.800 So you're saying you didn't do too well. 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.400 Talk about guns, not just the ones in Oklahoma. Let's 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.640 talk about the guns. But don't I don't take my 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.920 weapon out. I used my verbal weapons. I'm a peacemaker. 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:04.440 Now he's so. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.120 Now, so you did throw hands. But back in the day, 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.680 like even when you was a ute. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.760 When I was good, I was good. I was the 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:15.640 one getting bullied. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:15.800 Man. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:17.600 But we'll talk about that another day. But no, I 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:22.240 grew into my own now, no one messes. Well, how 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:23.040 many people. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.160 May say, oh, yeah, you got a motherfucking title that 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.680 a lot of motherfuckers are scared of. I wouldn't try to, 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:30.039 you know what I mean, See though, y'all on that 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.520 level together where y'all could actually you know what I mean, 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.680 because I see all the YouTubers doing it, I mean, 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.360 the athletes going into it. I mean, you know, go 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.840 ahead and show the political world that you know what 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.480 I mean, y'all ain't scared to get in the ring 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:44.679 and throw a couple of hands. 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.200 Well, no, here's the deal. Marshawn, Gavin and I both 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.800 had bullies. I'll tell you my story, Gavin can tell his. 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.880 I'll never forget this. I'm in seventh grade, Marshawan, and 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.760 I got this big guy's an eighth grader. Every day 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.520 is waiting for me at the top of the steps, 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.880 and he I would go. I would go around the 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:03.800 long way to school because I was terrified this guy 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.080 he got me one time, pushed me down and I 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:07.039 was terrified this guy. 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.080 So you never ate lunch in eighth grade. 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:11.640 No, I was in seventh grade. 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.520 But then my dad, My dad heard about it, and 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.240 he said, listen, the only way you're gonna be able 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.680 this guy's going to stop bullying you is you got 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.479 to stand up to him. So he literally bought me 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.320 some boxing gloves, took me in the backyard, taught me 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.719 how to box and throw. So finally, after about three weeks, 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.520 I walk up the steps and the big dude's waiting 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.719 for me. And I sat there and the guy said words, 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.400 all the buddies around him, and. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.640 I got the first push and wa hit the. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:41.600 Dude right in the nose. He didn't didn't do anything, 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.760 but he beat me up. But guess what, that was 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.760 the last time that ever happened to me by this guy. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:47.799 And then we became friends. 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.440 You upside down by your ankles, and he didn't hand me. 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:52.600 Upside down like I did. John Schneider in your contract. 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.039 I still have the picture of that one. He said 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.200 that that was my bully. I know, Gavin, you had 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:57.960 a few bully stories. 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:00.320 We call it the Bully of Baltimore because it was 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:04.120 Baltimore Avenue in courtA Madera, and my story done end well. 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.600 But I will say that boxing thing resonated because this 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.039 is around Rocky. When Rocky came out and I was 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.920 doing raw eggs every single morning. It got my gloves 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.000 from Big five down the block. It was hitting all 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.160 the time, and I was ready to go, and I 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.360 went out, went out. He used to surround me. I 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.520 had a paper route and I'd come in on the 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.720 paper route. I used to try to climb in the 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.760 back and it was always hard, but had my bike, 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.640 I couldn't climb over, and so anytime he come down, 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.520 they'd surround me, push me over. My sister would start crying, 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.040 and I will say, see, was my mom not my 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.360 dad in this case. She went down with me one 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.840 night and they lived just down the block and walked 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:47.000 right in and I thought, I thought she was going 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:48.960 to take care of it. She made me walk up 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.720 there with her. I'm nervous as hell right behind her, 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.520 and they got into it. My mom was like she 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.280 was young, and they got into it, and the dad 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.560 and the mom were defending the bully, and my mom 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.160 got in it. She turned around and brought us back house. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.480 About six months later, we moved out of the neighborhood, 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:06.960 so it didn't end as well. 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:08.480 You got ran about the spot. 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.640 You can't ran up out the spot. Shit. 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.560 Oh no, man, you know what Bully of Baltimore. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.840 Man, if he's listening, it ain't over it yet. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:18.600 But Marshaun, you know what's crazy about that? 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:20.800 The incident I had and Gavin you might feel the 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.720 same way as a father, you know, like that scarred 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.600 me literally for a long time. And so whenever I 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.720 hear the kids come back about, you know, a kid 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.920 at school getting picked on by somebody whoever, I always 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.439 go to my So listen, man, here's my story. Go 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.640 befriend that kid, Go find that kid and make it right. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.280 Because that's the one thing that one of the only 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:41.719 things that pissed me off as a parent when I 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.240 hear stories of kids eating alone or getting bullied, whatever 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.400 it may be, you know, have someone go pick him 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.760 up and defend him, whatever it may be. And so 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:52.880 I'm a big believer in that because I went through 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:54.520 I'm sure the same thing with you guys. 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:58.199 Say, trust me, man, one hundred percent, Like there's nothing 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.800 I hate more than bullies. And I I completely absolutely 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:03.920 convinced the exact same thing happened to you. It was 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.160 that early experience. And by the way, it was also 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:10.080 around that same time that one of my seventh grade classmates, 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:14.280 seventh grade classmates called me new scum instead of new sum. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.920 And you know, I listened today Donald Trump. He called 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.840 me new scum about ten times story to press conference. 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:22.200 All I could think is, this is a guy who 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.520 wants to be president of the United States again calling 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.800 me the same damn nickname that a kid in seventh 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:32.439 grade he calls you today, Yeah, new scum newscom I mean, 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:33.600 talk about a man child. 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.839 I could guess we could say that nickname kind of 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.600 stuck with you. Some some people get names like uh 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.800 like beast mode. I mean some you got new scum. 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.520 Some getting new scum. So you know, it's kind of 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:47.280 like you know, I mean, some things just stick. 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.920 Men. This guy's obsessed with you, bro, It's crazy. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:56.280 He's a pathetic weakness ten times today weakness. Bulliers are 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.760 the weakest people in the world. They're weak, they put 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.520 on a mask, they're weak, they're broken, they're insecure. That's 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.360 all that is. That's why you hit him in the face. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.280 The dude ran away. I mean it's a cliche, it's classic. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.480 But you know what, a lot of folks don't have 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.240 that courage to hit him back in the face. And 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.600 they and that's why we got to stand up for I. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:18.920 Think you just know that it's value in bringing you up. 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:23.319 So by him bringing you up, then I guess he thinks, 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.240 you know what I mean, he got the he gonna 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.360 get the ear of some people by bringing up Gad. 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.720 That's that's the that's the value in you, batman. 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.600 I appreciate it. No, I'm here for everybody. I told 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:34.680 you I work for everybody. 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.360 Start getting a little worried if he started calling you batman, 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.120 because then you know he really he really, he really, 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.600 he really honed it in on trying to figure some 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.960 shit out. Yeah, you gotta watch that one, Sodvin. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.440 Were you surprised he didn't want a debate for the third. 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.320 Time, No, he's scared to death. I mean, of course 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:53.240 he doesn't want a debate. 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.240 He just he thought he won. He thought he won. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.440 No, he didn't think he wanted. He knew better. That's 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.080 why he showed up at the spin room. He's a 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:02.520 con man. He's oster I mean, so, I mean, obviously 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.840 he's spinning the spinners. I mean, it was embarrassment and 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.080 he knows it, and he doesn't want to be embarrassed again, 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.880 so he copped out. He ran, he ran away, you know, 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:13.800 I mean to talk about it. I mean, she punched 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:19.040 him in the face and he ran away. I mean 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.880 it's a perfect metaphor for what we just discussed. And uh. 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.240 And the problem is the poll numbers don't reflect much 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:26.920 of a move. And that goes back to your point. 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.000 In Oklahoma, we're living in two different worlds in the 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:33.599 same state nation. I mean, it's it's it's gonna be 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:35.840 a grind, man. It's like World War One. You're just 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.720 in the trenches, inch by inch by inch, back and forth, 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.640 and so nothing about this stuff's going to be easy. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.560 But it just it's a reflective of the moment we're 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:45.880 living in. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:46.520 Well, it's funny. 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.719 I read I read the Pat Mahomes thing where he 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.880 didn't want to endorse anybody, which I totally did, but 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:52.240 he was. 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.640 He was his reason why it was great. I sent 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:55.200 it to Gavin. 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.079 He's like, look, you know, I want you know, people 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.440 can like whoever they want, but live in humanity, you know, 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:02.880 live together peaceful whole thing. 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:03.760 So he said it in the right way. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.920 I can't remember exactly what you said, but it was 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:07.800 a pretty cool comment. He's like, look, I'm not going 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:09.520 to get involved in this. That's not my job. But 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.600 you know there was a day when everyone did get 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.760 along and they weren't fighting and killing over you know 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:17.840 who's going to be the president? 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.720 Amen? And you know, I will say the biggest thing 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:26.520 they did happened that night was Taylor Swift's endorsement of Harris. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:30.040 For no other reason than this, just getting folks that 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.280 may not vote, young folks to vote, get them registered, 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.559 and get them vote to vote, and that could be 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.120 an entire race that could be determinative in this race. 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:44.560 Don't ever underestimate her influence and power. And as I 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:48.040 gave advice to Trump, he should be very careful of 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:49.920 how he reacts to that endorsement. 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.600 Kevin, have you seen an influx of the younger people 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:59.040 from the last three elections? More votes of the eighteen 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.240 to twenty two year old out since eight And when 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:02.280 Obama started to now. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.400 No, I mean, well, it's going to be a good 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.240 segue to will I am. It was so instrumental as 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:11.240 a cultural icon during that two thousand and eight election 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.840 with Obama. But no, it's I mean, you've seen regression 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.360 in that respect. There's a lot of cynicism with young 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:21.160 folks in the last few years about politics and politicians, 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.400 and so they're walking away. That's why it's a big 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:28.400 deal that not only she dialed in for Harris, but 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:32.040 she's dialing up the registration and the energy for the 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.000 Harris campaign. So no, I mean it's the young folks 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.880 that ultimately will sway this election or like will determine 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.199 the fame and future of this election and the issues 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.839 they care about, the issues Harris cares about, the climate issues, 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:48.640 a gun policy, gun safety issues obviously, around democracy and 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:54.400 choice freedom, all those good things, right, Marshan. Hey, by 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.560 the way, Marshan, what the hell is going on? There's 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.920 apparently we have an epidemic of people eating cats and dogs. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.000 Have you been reading about this stuff? Brother? 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:07.160 I did. Man, I've just seen they dropped. They dropped 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:11.640 your boy dt uh his mixtape talking about eating cats 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.600 and dogs. Man, they are bro. They doing some ship. 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.960 I don't know what that is. I don't know, man. 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.120 It's a it's a it's a fucked up time right now. 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:23.720 I wonder how they're doing it. Is they doing shish 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:28.800 kebabs or the barbecue grill I mean fried or I 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.120 mean I don't know how they're doing that, but I 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.520 mean leave it, leave it, Leave it up to people. 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.800 They gonna fucking uh put some salt and pepper on 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:42.120 anything and try it. God damn, that's assuming it happened. 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.280 B s's bs. 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.040 We ever a guest starting ready to jump in right now. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:47.680 Let's do it. 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:48.520 Bring Will in? 0:14:59.000 --> 0:14:59.920 What's up? What's up? 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:00.680 Will? 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:01.200 Are you coming? 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:01.480 Man? 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:03.480 What's up with it? Way? Gavin? 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:04.360 How you doing? Brother? 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:05.560 Thanks for being with us? 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.280 Man, show your daddy whatever? 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:07.440 Bro? 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.240 Yeah, what's had? And Lane? You didn't bounce on this? 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:16.440 Motherfucker cooler than the fan, my boy? Damn. Look, I'm 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.080 glad I came with a little stam because ship man, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.040 I gotta you know, I ain't. We gotta represent for that. 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.520 You feel mes one time? God damn is money with 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:26.600 your big donk. 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:28.040 Just chilling here? 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:28.280 Bro? 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:29.800 Just got back from South Korea. 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:31.040 South Korea. 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:32.600 That's one of them ones. 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:34.760 That was one of them ones. 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:35.880 That's one of them ones. 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.640 On God, I had the pleasure. 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.960 Uh And and Will noses back in the late nineties 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.520 meeting him with my client the Dirty Bird, Jamal Anderson 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.480 and Jay uh Will back in the day my. 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:47.640 Younger years as an agent. 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:55.760 But we're so excited to have one of the legendary rappers, singers, songwriter, producers, entrepreneurs, 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.680 any winner with over one hundred million albums sold worldwide, 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:05.000 an absolute icon in this world. Will I am welcome 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:06.960 to polit Chicken Broy. 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:08.800 It's great to great to be here. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:09.040 You know. 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.560 I like I'm a I'm a competitor. I like a 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:17.160 ship and you know, yo, real talk. If I didn't 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.480 get that concussion, I would be like one of the 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.880 best football players. But but I got that concussion. 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:25.840 Concussion, concussion, I got. 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.880 I got hit hard position. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.240 What position was you playing? 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.000 I was a taeilback. I'm fast as hell? 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:33.480 Th Oh is that right? 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:34.720 Yeah? I'm fast? Bro? 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.200 Like oh so you so you was told that rock then? 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:38.200 For real? 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:42.520 Like Jamal Anderson, I mean he ain't fast, but I 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:46.240 whipped him in the race. Oh, Reggie Bush, he never 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:47.920 wanted to race me because you know I'll smoke him. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.680 Okay this day, I'm fast. Reggie got and Reggie got gassed. 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:55.800 Though Reggie ain't faster than me and Reggie right now on, God, bro, 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.160 you know you never wanted to race me because you 0:16:58.160 --> 0:16:59.880 know I'll skunk you. Bro, like you know that. 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.120 Hey, well hold on if you because Reggie fold three, 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.159 that ain't somebody you know. You just get to just 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.960 be saying, I'm gonna running off phone. So you must 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.040 got some uh some high obtaining the in them things. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.200 You must got some ponies. You over there running on 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:14.040 my way. 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:15.200 I'm four two. 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:17.600 Damn Okay, now we're talking. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.359 We're talking, so will will? 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:23.400 Hey, who was your Who is the back you grew 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:24.440 up liking the back in the day? 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:25.520 Who are the running backs you like? 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.879 So my uncle played football for the for the for 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.440 the foul, so it's in the blood. 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:32.120 Yeah. 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:36.000 Then he played for the Rams yep, so yep. And 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.320 then I thought I was gonna follow in his footsteps 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:42.160 till I got cracked and yep, that's not that that 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:43.719 that was That was the end of my career. So 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.520 you were just fast, yeah, but sometimes you ain't that 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.119 fast to like if you get in the pitch and 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:54.199 you turn to the left and bam, like the speed 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:55.520 don't do everything. 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.679 Will Growing up growing up in La where were you 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.040 playing back in the day as a youngster? 0:17:59.080 --> 0:17:59.960 What years you get the cancut? 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:00.800 Oh? 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.800 I got the concussion like straight straight seventeen okay, and 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:06.080 that's when I was like, you know what, I'm just 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:07.280 gonna do this music stuff. 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.639 Okay. Did this happen in a game or did this 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:12.720 happen in practice? 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.200 No, this happened in the game, and to the point 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:19.080 where it messed up how I how I played afterwards, 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.520 because I was always I didn't like the feeling of 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.840 I didn't know how I got there, you know what 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.360 I'm saying, Like that panic, like how did I get here? 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:29.560 Like where am I at? 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:29.800 Like? 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.240 I didn't like that feeling. 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:34.639 You got that da sold on? Hold on? Did you 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.360 did you get a little nauseated too? 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:38.119 I got nauseated. 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:42.000 I got okay. Oh then you had one of them ones? Yeah, 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:43.800 oh yeah, I lived for that ship. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.640 How many sean how many times that happened to you 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:51.520 and cussed? Yeah, like one of those ones as you said. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.240 I mean, I'm being hit like that for show. But 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.040 as far as concussions, I never been diagnosed with a 0:18:58.160 --> 0:18:59.680 uh with a concussion before? 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.119 Do you remember like not remembering? 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.479 Oh yeah, hell yeah, that's a good question. I mean, 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.520 hold on, hold on. I said, I've never been diagnosed. 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:13.720 Oh got it, got it, So you know what I mean. 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:15.520 I'm not saying I ain't done had him, because I 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.879 know as much as I be hitting motherfuckers with my head, 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.680 I know some I know something going on in that thing. 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.000 We'd like to call it screws loose. But uh, yeah, 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.919 I've never been diagnosed. But I that feeling when you 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.480 get hit and you get nauseating in your stomach, like 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:33.760 ooh shit, this ain't this ain't right. But I'll just 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:35.600 go throw up and then get right back in there 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:38.320 and try to see what's up. Now. Now, if I 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:41.320 don't remember, I'll go ask for my team. Hey, which 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.640 one of the motherfucker's hit me? All right, that's who 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:47.000 did it? All right? Then I gotta go see him 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.040 about something. He got to come meet me in the office. 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:51.119 But I'll tell you this, I just asked you if 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.119 it was in a game or in practice, because they 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.120 say we used to have this drill called the Oklahoma drill, 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.119 and that's the head of drill running back in the linebacker. 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:05.200 And they say that drill alone made more NBA superstars 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.880 than anything. Because if you can, if you can get 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:12.359 through the Oklahoma hitting drills, then you know what, you 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.440 probably can You probably can make it in this uh 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:15.520 in this football thing. 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.840 Yeah, I couldn't have done that. 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:20.760 Well, I'm glad you didn't. 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:23.080 Exactly it worked out for everybody. 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:27.520 Yeah, like just just I mean, I love football and 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:29.840 I love to compete. I like I'm the talk ship 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.399 kind of competitive. I like that because you because you 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:35.119 can get in the skin and you can fuck the 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:35.880 whole game up. 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:38.720 Hell yeah, because they're like that type of Yeah, because 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.359 a lot of individuals they don't understand how how mental 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:44.560 the game is. I think is more physical than anything, 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:48.760 but mentally, if you as not prepared and mentally you 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:52.480 are not ready, you'll have a long day. And if 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:55.160 you're an individual who because you say you could talk 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:56.040 some ship. 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:56.520 I would. 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:00.880 Yeah. I mean if you could just get over that, 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.440 if you could get over that and get through that, yeah, 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:06.879 you you, that's when you start understanding, you know what 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.520 I mean? And I take that ship as like life 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:12.800 learned lessons and I apply that to life, you know 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:16.440 what I mean? Because that ship. I recently just got 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:20.840 back into a to doing double days and I've just 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:25.119 been having like all these deep ass mental talks, and 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:28.480 I didn't realize how much, like I missed that ship 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:33.080 and how much those talks, how much that shit made 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:36.080 me the individual who I was. And it didn't come 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.320 from no outside source. It was all within. I mean, 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:41.240 you know, we take we take a lot of that 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:46.680 shit for how you say that for granted, we take 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:48.760 a lot of that ship for granted, but you know, 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:51.200 recently just getting back into it, like, oh shit, well 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:54.080 maybe that's how or maybe that's why I was able to, 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:55.560 you know what I mean, stay focused and do the 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:57.199 shit that I was able to do on the field. 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:02.040 But yeah, you know, I mean, I'm talking to myself 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:04.119 when you getting in there, you grinding, and you just 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:06.679 feel like you can't do no more, and then you 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.640 automatically to tell yourself like, hey, we done made it there, 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:12.080 we didn't come this far, Like why turn around and 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:14.000 you go and put that extra in And then when 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.040 you go out there and you see the actual results 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:18.840 to it. Now, while you win it, you don't feel it, 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:22.399 but when you think back, like, ooh shit, dad, damn, 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:28.680 I didn't know the power of me was so motherfucking strong. Yeah, yeah, 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:30.120 I love that shit. 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:33.520 So I will I imagine so as as Marshall was saying, 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:35.920 he took that off the field and obviously a big 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:38.480 part of his life. I imagine when you got concussed 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:41.920 and you took that same competitive energy and spirit, uh 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:44.679 and that inner voice to all these endeavors, not just 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:48.560 in music, but across the spectrum, including your entrepreneurial side. 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:51.600 And and uh so I you still you're still talking 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:54.639 game and talking shit to your competitors in that space. 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:59.120 Or how is that mindset advanced your career more broadly 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:01.159 even even be a on just where we see so 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:02.720 much of you in the music sets. Yeah. 0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:04.720 So like if you if you're playing basketball, I'm the 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:09.080 dude on your team that is just mentally trying to 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:11.960 mess with who we're playing with. If we're playing football, 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.720 I'm that same dude. If we're in a group together, 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:16.760 I'm that same guy. I'm like, Yo, who's number one 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:20.440 on the radio this week? All right, cool, let's let's compete. 0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:25.280 You know, if it's if it's like if I'm consulting 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:28.520 for a company and they need like some some some 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.680 strategic thinking to get around the barricade or over it 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:35.320 or through it or I like, I like to compete, 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:37.920 I like to study, I like to apply and come 0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:43.879 up with like plausible ways to truly, you know, get 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:47.520 over these these boundaries, because all it is is is 0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:53.600 imagination and just determination, like but not not blind determination, 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.879 because you could, like I said, you could get a 0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:00.080 concussion if you if you if you only rely on 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:03.600 one skill set, you can't just rely on speed. And 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:06.520 so I thought, I learned the hard way you can't 0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.280 just rely on that one superpower, and that at that 0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.679 point in time, my superpower was with speed, and that 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:17.359 so now I like to equip myself with not only speed, agility, 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:23.880 you know, uh, understanding of my terrain strengths, build up strength, forecasting, 0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:26.360 being able to see you around corners and the way 0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.920 you see around corners, to elevate yourself and get as 0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:34.320 much data or information as possible, and then networking surround 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.760 yourself with other folks that have the same goals and 0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:43.119 desires and push through. And that ship talking is is 0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:48.080 audacity you have to be, you know, because there's if you, 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.359 if you apply that stuff that's happening on the field, 0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:53.359 that's some audacious ship. To look somebody in the face 0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:56.800 and be like, come back here, see what happens. That's 0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:01.000 an audacious ship. And so to have that same audaciousness 0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:03.640 to like, this is what we're gonna do with this idea, 0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:06.040 this is how, this is the kind of this is 0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:09.160 who we who we're going up going up against, and 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:14.040 so that I like to be audacious, but we'll will 0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:16.199 have have fun at the same time, Like there's a 0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:20.400 there's a thin line between audacity and arrogance and arrogant 0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:25.520 and talking ship. That's when ship gets violent. You don't 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:28.880 want to be arrogant and talk shit because that's when 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:32.440 the game turns into then it's not a game anymore. 0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:37.679 You want to be audacious and ship talking fun, but 0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:42.160 not arrogant and talk ship because that that that that'll 0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:45.560 be the last that that that that turns into like 0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:47.680 you know, fighting words real fast. 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:50.119 No that Well, let me ask you a question, Like 0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.119 I mean, obviously your mom is a huge influence on you. 0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.919 So growing up back in La you know, obviously the 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:56.639 story is she drove you an hour away to go 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.080 to a different school. Was that hard as a kid, 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:02.159 because obviously grown up where you did and then you 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.160 went and gotten to music. Was that prior to get 0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.720 concussed and went to to a music school. 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:12.080 You know, check this out. I well, I didn't go 0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:16.040 to a music school. I took music in school, and 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:22.439 I was horrible at the trumpet. But I got a 0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:26.560 record deal while I was in school and going from 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:30.000 like East La to Boil sorry, from East La Boiled 0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:34.480 Heights to Brentwood to school, from you know, seven years 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:38.120 old to eighteen years old. That was like a cultural 0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.399 shock at first, but then it just became my like, 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:45.760 oh wow, this is how you could live. Because if 0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.080 I was just stuck in the projects and not seeing 0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:53.280 like other folks, you know, lifestyles and having two cars 0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:57.000 and a house with two car garages, I wouldn't have known. 0:26:58.000 --> 0:26:59.840 But I was happy that I was able to, you know, 0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:04.160 go across the ten Freeway, past the four h five 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:08.800 to see big gass mansions in Brentwood, drive through Beverly Hills, 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:12.040 to see how people were living there, and compete, like, 0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.520 oh really, this is how you live in brent This 0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:16.600 is how you live in brad this is how you 0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:20.359 live in Mitchell. Well, I'm living over here with Lallo's 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:29.520 and Joselitos and you know Earls and Bernie's, and I'm 0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.040 going to compete. I want to live like that. I 0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:33.520 want to have a house like I want my mama 0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:35.280 have a house like this. I'm gonna get my mama 0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:39.200 house like this, and let's compete. There was this kid 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:41.480 that I went to school with. His name was Kyle Copeland, 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.680 and he was like an all star athlete. And his 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:50.480 cousin brother is Royce Jefferson. I haven't seen these people 0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:55.080 since we graduated sixth grade. We had dinner last night 0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.679 last night. I mean, this is thirty three years. I 0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:01.920 ain't these people since thirty three years. And to sit 0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:06.119 down across from Kyle Copeland, his brother passed away with 0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.920 a heart attack on the football field at Dorset High School. 0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:15.560 Rest in peace, Big Copeland. But to sit down with 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:20.399 Kyle and Royce Jefferson, and here Royce Jefferson, Now you 0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.840 know what he's doing with his life, having worked at 0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:29.880 you know, SpaceX with Elon and them Boeing and now 0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.520 working with another satellite company. And we went to a 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:36.200 science magnet school and I'm telling him like, yeah, bro, 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:39.360 I got a I got a school. In the down 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.960 I went back to my projects that started after school 0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.520 program teaching kids robotics and computer Science and now we 0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:48.520 serve fifteen thousand students in the hood and partnership with 0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:52.800 la usd and we both were busted from our hoods 0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.880 to Brentwood and went to Brentwood Science Magnet. I'm just 0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:00.600 so proud of, you know, to see people that you 0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:06.400 grew up with ain't seen in thirty three years, you know, now, 0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:08.240 you know, do doing something with their life. 0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:21.280 Will Was it hard for your friends to see you 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:22.960 kind of leave the area and go to school there 0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:23.920 where they're like, dude, what's up? 0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.560 Well, why are you going here? How is that with them? 0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:27.440 And you guys? 0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.640 Oh, it was dope because they were like, fucking Willie dog, 0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:32.640 are you you getting on the yellow bus and you're 0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:34.280 going to You're going to school with the white boys? 0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:37.880 Don I'm like, yeah, bro, hey was it a light 0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.640 going to Hey they got big houses? Han dong? Hey 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:42.800 do they have fucking Lamborghinis over there? And saying like 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:44.560 you go to school with the white boys and the 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:46.680 white girls home the white girls like you huh Like 0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.840 it was it was? It was a dope. It was 0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:55.080 a It was a beautiful like you know, melting pot. 0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:59.680 La Is. I love la la Is like la is 0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:03.160 a Damn, I love l A. 0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:05.480 And we and we'll just so for folks that don't, 0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:09.480 they're not familiar with Boyle Heights. I mean it predominantly. 0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:13.160 Particularly predominantly Latino Latino. We were one of the only 0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:16.680 black families in our neighborhood. Yep, and and and and 0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:21.480 and and usually there's just like in the past, black 0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:25.000 and brown were always feuding. But when I grew where 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.960 I grew up, it was beautiful. And they they were 0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.200 proud of my uncle because the neighborhood knew that my 0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:34.000 uncle played football with them, and they were like, hey, 0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:36.400 your uncle plays for the Falcons. Hey you're now your 0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.520 uncle plays for the Rams and and and when I 0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:41.920 was growing up, I had a really you know, heavy 0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:46.280 Mexican accent, uh, But traveling the world, you know my 0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.440 accent is you know, I could dial it back in, 0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:52.200 like especially when I go back to the neighborhood. But 0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.720 it was it was a beautiful thing. You know, I 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:56.960 wouldn't changing for the world. 0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.240 And was it your it was your mom's influence that 0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:01.640 got you on the other side there at the Science 0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:04.640 Magnet School. I mean she was was she the dogged determinive, 0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:06.840 I mean she was she wanted all that for you. 0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:08.360 Was it more just your own self? 0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:11.680 No, no, I was too young. I was seven. So 0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.320 it was her idea to send this out to Brentwood 0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:18.360 and then par Revera and Palisades High School and uh 0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.360 and I loved it. I love I'm so happy that 0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:25.080 that was my path. And I think it's the reason 0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:28.760 why Black Eyed Peas became like super international, because like 0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:33.400 when you meet Persians and you meet Korean folks, you 0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:38.720 meet you know, Israeli, you meet folks from you know, 0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:44.760 Bahrain and the UAE. You go to school with folks 0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.560 from that are Saudi. You go to school with folks 0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:52.880 that are you know, Armenian, Mexican, you know, Argentinian, Like 0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:54.400 you're like, wow, where are you from? 0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:55.360 You know? 0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.960 And and you're German. It makes you want to be like, Yo, 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:00.600 one day, I want to go there. One day, I 0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:02.760 want to go check out. I want to go to Israel. 0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:07.560 I want to go to you know, I want to 0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.280 go I want to go check out, you know Eru. 0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.400 I can't wait to go to South Korea. Knowing the 0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:19.280 difference going up living in LA gives you the the 0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:22.680 the ability because if you're not familiar with it. You 0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:27.160 can't tell the difference between Korean, Japanese and Chinese. You 0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.920 don't know the difference between Indonesian and Filipino. You can't. 0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.600 It's hard to tell the difference between Singaporean and Malaysian 0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:38.040 and Cambodian and Laos and Guam. But being in la 0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.680 it's like, Oh, you get to like, where are you from? 0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:44.000 You're from Laos? What's Laos? Oh SNAr? Cambodia? Well, what's 0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:45.240 what's Guam? Oh snair? 0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:45.640 Laos? 0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:47.040 Would you Filipino? 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:47.640 Well? 0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:50.719 I thought you was Indonesia. And then when you finally 0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:54.320 get to go to these places and play in Jakarta 0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:59.680 and playing, you know, Bondayace and do a concert for 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:05.960 you know, tsunami relief, the world is a beautiful place. 0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:07.480 And before you get to see the world, if you're 0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:09.920 blessed to live in Los Angeles, you see some version 0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:10.240 of that. 0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.080 Well it's interesting. I mean, California is and I keep 0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.720 reminding myself of this, but twenty seven percent of California's 0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.600 four and born, which is remarkable. You look at the 0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:22.120 nation it's about just a little less than fourteen percent. 0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.760 It's almost double the number of four and born. It's 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:28.240 a majority minority state. So your point about the ability 0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.640 to live and advance together across every conceivable difference. It's 0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.280 a special place, but notably in la the most diverse 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.640 part of the most diverse state in the world's most 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.560 diverse least democracy in the United States. So that's a 0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:43.200 hell of it experience and have that sort of nature nurture. 0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:45.320 But you, you know, it's interesting you and I met. 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.959 I think the first time I met you it was 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:51.520 around robotics. Was Dean Kman or something someone you. 0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:53.120 Know, having You're wrong, you know where it was. It 0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:55.200 was in two thousand and eight. We went to the 0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.920 show in San Francisco. You came with me. 0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.400 Oh wait, I think you're the mess the action first 0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:05.880 time I was mayor. That's right, that's right. Yeah, I 0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.080 I forgot about that, Jesus, But at least I remember. 0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.480 It was more formidable in this case because I remember, 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:12.839 I mean, you were so and I and I never 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.120 connected to doubt, I never understood. And now I have 0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:17.880 the origin story of the Science Magnet school that you 0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:19.640 were involved in. But that's been a big part of 0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:21.920 your life because you've been you've been leading the way 0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:26.279 on this robotics innovation, entrepreneurialism, you're involved in AI. Now 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.880 you've got this. You're always you talk about, you know, 0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:32.000 I know, your mindset being five years ahead of the curve, 0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:36.080 always trying to look over the mountain, maintaining that entrepreneurial 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.359 mindset and innovative mindset. But when did I mean, when 0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:42.040 did that really start to gell for you in terms 0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:46.160 of branching out beyond just the music and really and 0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:50.239 really sort of attaching uh more around the high tech 0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.080 side of things and uh and really trying to particularly 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.560 an AI you can talk about that where where you've 0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:58.120 got some really dynamic technology you're working on today. 0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:03.880 So it hit me, you know, when you have success, 0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.440 the world caused you to bring awareness to things. So 0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:12.680 and two thousand and one, we went on tour on 0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:16.719 September the twelfth, actually the day after September eleventh. We 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:24.439 were recording an album in in Bedega Bay on two 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.960 thousand and one, and our last day was September the eleventh, 0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:33.480 and then our tour started on the twelfth. So I'm like, 0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.480 we have to go on tour. It has everything to 0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:38.839 do with your question Gavin on how did I get 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:45.000 so tech? Because just going to Brentwood Science Magnet elementary 0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:48.920 doesn't really I'm not baked in and I'm not soaked 0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:51.440 in tech. That was some courses that we took, but 0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.440 it wasn't enough to be like, this is the path. 0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:00.840 So we went on tour and we so what America 0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:04.239 felt like. And then the last day of our tour, 0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.160 we we when the tour finished, we went to the 0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.200 studio and we wrote a song called Where's a Love 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:15.399 on November the twenty fourth, twenty fourth, threety fifth, So 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.800 we wrote that song and then that song became our 0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:22.160 our first big hit. And then when you have that 0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:24.799 kind of success, the world calls you. You know. Two 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:27.279 thousand and four of the world started calling us. So 0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.000 I went out and did my campaigning. You know, because 0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:34.399 traveling the world in two thousand, from nineteen ninety nine, 0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:38.480 two thousand, two thousand and one, the world they they 0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:43.399 frowned on Americans. It wasn't a it wasn't it wasn't 0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.080 a healthy relationship when you would go to certain places 0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:49.440 because of how America responded to nine to eleven and 0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:54.279 went to war to find weapons of mass destruction and 0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:57.920 never found them. And so the world looked at America 0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:03.000 and in the world. Uh, very you know, shame on 0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:08.080 you guys, and saying you're American. Wasn't the word you said, 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:10.520 wasn't the sentence you said when you traveled around the world, 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.239 because you could be in harm's way, especially when you 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:19.960 go play you know, certain places that were anti American 0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:24.080 because of our response to ninet eleven. And so we 0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:29.640 campaigned in two thousand and four for Carrie. It didn't work. 0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:37.640 And so in two thousand and five, tsunami hit Indonesia 0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:38.920 and so I was like, what do I want to 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:43.319 do on my birthday March fifteenth? So I went. I 0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:45.200 was like, yo, I'm gonna go to tsunami. I'm gonna 0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.239 do tsunami relief. So I flew to Bondaiace and I 0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:51.240 did tsunami relief. And when I was there, I was like, wow, 0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:55.600 look at this devastation. Was bodies stacked up on the 0:37:55.640 --> 0:38:03.799 shore and to see, you know, Mother nature have its 0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:09.000 way on folks that did nothing to deserve that type 0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:12.800 of like you know, reality that was thrown upon them. 0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:17.400 I'm like, Wow, there's a tsunami that's hitting my neighborhood. 0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:22.160 Every single day, there's a tsunami of neglect. It's a 0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:28.040 tsunami of no opportunity, a tsunami of zoning that allows 0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:32.040 for a check cashing place to be right next to 0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:34.719 a liquor store that writes, next to a motel that's 0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.359 right next to bad food that's right next to a school. 0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.600 And then a payday leonard to boot amen. 0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:43.360 And that cocktails is detrimental to people that live in 0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.719 the communities I live. That means if there's a check 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:49.600 cashing place, the people in the community aren't financially literate, 0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.359 and once you cast that check, you're gonna go buy 0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.480 some liquor. And then if you get kicked out of 0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.080 your house, there's a motel for you, and then there's 0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:01.160 a strip club there to spend your money on that's 0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:04.319 right next to the school. And the teachers that are 0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.720 getting paid to teach are not getting the same amount 0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:10.800 of money as a stripper that's right next to the motel, 0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:12.600 next to the check cashing, next to that bad food 0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:16.600 that's going to give you some high cholesterol, hypertension, diabetes. 0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:20.720 And then here's some magical little medicine to help staton 0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.200 to help curb that high tension. 0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:23.560 Right. 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:25.880 So I'm like, if the Food and Drug Administration is 0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:30.279 allowing bad food to be riddled in our neighborhood, but 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:32.400 then give you some solution like medicine. 0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:32.840 Wow. 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.880 Zoning allows for strip clubs to be next to schools, 0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:37.800 next to check cashing, next to liquortory. 0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:38.719 What the hell? 0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.280 Because this zoning is not in Beverly Hills in Britainwood 0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:44.040 when I went to school, So why is that zoning 0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.680 cocktail not allowed there but allowed here? 0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:47.440 Yep? 0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:51.640 So I was like, this tsunami cocktail is killing my people. 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.880 And will you're seriously you're telling me literally, this is 0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:07.759 coming to you after that damn tsunami. You start, you 0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.640 start piecing these things together, all these things start to 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:12.040 gel in terms of. 0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:17.080 I saw that neighborhood get destroyed by water and the tsunami, 0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.839 and then I see my neighborhood get hit by an 0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:23.399 invisible force every single day, but nobody's coming for our 0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.759 tsunami relief. So I was like, you know, what, what is? 0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:29.400 What What can I do? I was like, the moment 0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:33.200 I get some disposable income, I want to bring, you know, 0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:38.560 the technology to my neighborhood because if the kids in 0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:42.920 my neighborhood are able to have the same ability to 0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:47.560 idate and materialize like they do in Silicon Valley. Whoa whoa, 0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:51.239 whoa whoa whoa that. And this is before the iPhone. 0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:54.719 It's two thousand and five. So by two thousand and 0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:58.480 eight iPhone just one year out. There wasn't the I, 0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:00.640 There wasn't the app store like we know it today. 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:05.240 Uber hasn't transformed the world. Airbnb hadn't transformed the world yet. 0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:09.239 So in two thousand and eight, my hunch was robotics 0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:14.560 programs and computer science programs coupled with Lorraine Power Jobs 0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:19.359 college track program nice Love. I partnered with Lorraine Power 0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:23.640 Jobs and brought college track to southern California. And I'm like, hey, look, 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:25.399 I want to send kids to college, but I don't 0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.799 want kids to go to college and then just have 0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.840 debt and a diploma. I mean, I like double d's, 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:34.840 but not double d's like that debt and diploma. You 0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:41.120 feel me, that's the wrong double D YEHB and diploma. 0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.239 Marshawn likes both, no, I know. 0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.640 So I was like, yo, if I could send kids 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:52.160 to school where they have a skill set so when 0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:55.000 they graduate there's jobs waiting for them, and if there's 0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:56.959 no jobs waiting for them. They have the skill set 0:41:57.040 --> 0:42:03.759 to create new industries themselves. That's what the hood needs. 0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:06.160 And so I started that in two thousand and eight 0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.920 with just sixty five students. Now we serve fifteen thousand students. 0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:16.080 After my partnership with la USD, Dean came and let 0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:20.000 me tweak the curriculum a little bit, and now our 0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:27.320 partnership with First Robotics LAUSD has resulted to we having 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:32.759 the most First Robotics teams in any school district in 0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:37.120 the US. I've seen kids to Dartmouth to Stanford, to Brown, 0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:43.319 to UCLA, to USC to Georgetown, to cal State Northridge 0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:48.720 to San Diego. So I'm really proud of our students 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:51.920 and the reason why I wanted to do that in 0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:56.759 my neighborhood because I don't think a kid if everybody says, man, 0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:58.719 I can't wait to get up out our neighborhood, like 0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.520 people don't say that in Brentwood. People don't say that 0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:03.279 in Palasades, like I can't wait to get up by 0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:06.600 the palisades. Too much water up in here, too much here, 0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:09.600 like this views too spectacle, look, can't wait to get 0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.759 up out of here. That's not what's happening there. So 0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:15.600 I want people to say, though, I can't wait to 0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:18.680 change my hood, because Brooklyn would tell you that it's 0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:23.360 gonna be gentrified anyway. But why can't we do the 0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:26.920 altering of our community ourselves. Why are we gonna let 0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.279 somebody else be like, Wow, this neighborhood is great. I've 0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:32.200 been hearing all these great things about this neighborhood on 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.320 these rap songs. Let's go out there and like change 0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:37.279 it to where the people that lived there can't even 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:41.400 afford it wrong. That's whack, that's like, that's horrible. 0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:42.320 Well, it's funny. 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.160 Will Marshawn and I talked about this all the time, 0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:46.800 and Marshaana jump in, but he's been at the forefront 0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:48.399 of this as well since he got drafted in two 0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:51.359 thousand and seven with Oakland, and Marshawn speak to Will 0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.200 about you know what you've done there, because what he's 0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.239 saying is exactly the same stuff you've been doing and 0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:59.880 thinking as well since you came out of the league. 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.520 I mean, the approach is the same, just in different fields. 0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:08.840 And our use use the sports approach to bring the 0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:14.480 kids in and then like our me, my cousin Josh 0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:17.600 and my cousin Marcus. We have a foundation and a 0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:20.759 youth center of Oakland. Uh, A lot of the same 0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:22.480 things that you was just talking about, which is why 0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.440 I'm just really over here just really listening to you. 0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:29.279 And you know, speaking of this robotics program, like how 0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:33.920 do we? How do we? I would say, segue that 0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:37.399 from you know, down in Yo, in your area and 0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:39.319 bring that up to Oakland. Like Yo. 0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:43.160 We could do that like this, And because we treat 0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:48.480 robotics like a sport. Every year, we have this culmination 0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:52.120 of all the events that happened with the regionals and 0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:56.520 we have the championships in Texas. Now I'm at the 0:44:56.800 --> 0:45:01.960 Houston Stadium there with the Rangers where the Rangers playing. 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:05.120 It used to be in Saint Louis where the Rams 0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:09.920 used to play. And to bring that, it'll be great 0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:12.960 to rock with machean, to to bring a robotics program 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:16.920 to Oakland, a couple of them, you know, that'd be amazing. 0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:19.040 And we could do that like like this. We got 0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:23.640 the blueprint and the system how it worked. That'd be fantastic. 0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:26.319 How many schools are you in all across the country now, 0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:26.879 you know. 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:34.600 Right now in La alone, my efforts equal to just 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:36.240 a little over four hundred schools. 0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:36.960 Yeah. 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:37.360 Crazy. 0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.520 Well, well it's interesting as an agent. It's funny. I 0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:41.960 grew up in Silicon Valley. 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:45.600 I'm so impressed by you because if you look back, 0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:49.880 you were the first global superstar to really be at 0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:52.000 the level you're at and decided and I think it 0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:53.960 was your was it with your idea with Jimmy Iveen 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.480 on the beach by Dre But then you decided, Hey, 0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:58.480 you know what, I'm gonna adventure into Silicon val I'm 0:45:58.480 --> 0:45:59.239 an adventure to tech. 0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:00.000 It's amazing. 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.720 See what you've done well ahead of the game. Everyone's 0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.080 doing it now, but back when you started, no was 0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:05.480 doing it. 0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:06.239 Yeah. 0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:09.920 So two thousand, Napster hit pretty hard and Black Eyed 0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:12.440 Peas we started off as like a college group. We 0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:18.719 would play ucla USC Northridge, Domingus Hills, Long Beach, San Diego. 0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:21.640 We were just wanted to own La. We're like, we 0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:24.920 can't own La colleges. Ain't nobody gonna mess with us. 0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:28.640 Let's play La Colleges. The problem that we saw is 0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:31.719 that when Napster hit, all of our college fans was 0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:34.719 getting our stuff for free. So we're like, how are 0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:37.959 we not selling records but selling out? We went from 0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:41.040 doing House of Blues to doing Greek theaters to Greek theaters, 0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:44.960 Like how we selling more tickets and less albums? And 0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:48.839 so then I saw Sean Fanning at a club. I'm like, yo, you' 0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:51.279 the dude from Nashville. He's like yeah, I'm like yo, 0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:53.840 this is changed phone numbers. I really like to get 0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.640 into your mind and like what made you create this? 0:46:56.840 --> 0:47:00.880 Like what is this? So we became really cool friends. 0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:03.680 In two thousand and two thousand and one, while everybody 0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:07.240 was suing Napster, I just wanted to understand Napster interesting 0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:11.000 and the mentality there. Once again, if you're going to compete, 0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:15.000 you gotta know who you're competing with. You can't just 0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:19.840 attack you get you get, you get a concussion. You 0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:26.000 gotta know who's fast on your on your opponent. And yeah, 0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:30.520 I learned a lot. So from that, I met Ron 0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:33.200 Conway and the person that introduced me to Ron Conway 0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:33.880 was AMC. 0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:34.360 Hammer. 0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:35.560 Yeah. 0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:38.280 MC Hammer's like, yo, I heard you got a company. 0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:40.360 The reason why I wanted to start my own company 0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:44.160 because I told Jimmy, Like, yo, Jimmy, we launched. I 0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:47.879 we helped launch iPods and iTunes. They used Black Eyed 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:52.320 Peace song Hey Mama to launch iTunes and iPods. And 0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:54.520 the reason how we got that gig is because the 0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:57.680 NBA used Let's get It Started for that two thousand 0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:01.160 and four NBA campaign. And so I was like, look 0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:07.040 where they're calling bands to sell other stuff, Like, we're 0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:09.520 selling other people's stuff with our reach and our music. 0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:12.360 Why can't we use our music to sell our own stuff. 0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:15.920 The record stores are shutting down. Jimmy like, we need 0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:19.040 to be selling our own stuff. So Jimmy's like, you 0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:21.880 know what, they call it hardware? Welles because it's hard, 0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.760 you know. I was like, yeah, yeah, Jimmy, but you 0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:30.759 you signed Crips and Bloods, you got Snoop Dogg, and 0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:33.200 you rock with freaking Sugar Night. That's hard. 0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:34.320 That's hard. 0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:39.600 If you could do that, If you could do that, 0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:42.600 then come on, Jimmy doing hardware. Hate that hard. He 0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:44.920 was like, you know what, you bring up a good point. 0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:46.920 So then a year later he's. 0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.440 Like I was walking down I was walking with Dre 0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:52.400 on the beach and Dre told me that his manager 0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:56.839 wants to sell sneakers, and I told Dre, fuck sneakers. 0:48:57.280 --> 0:49:00.200 We're selling speakers. You want to be a paul It. 0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:01.799 I was like, wait, what do you want me to do? 0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:05.520 You know the way you think around corner. She could 0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:07.960 be a part of what we're doing. I was like 0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:13.000 all right, And so we started Beats and the first 0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:16.080 beats like out the Gate was boom boom po. I'd 0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:21.160 be rocking in Beats. That was my like's let's push 0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:24.000 beats through the music. And Black Eyed Peas we had 0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.239 it in our video first and whatnot, and it was 0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:30.839 it was an honor to be a part of Beats. 0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:36.080 But around that time, just before that, I'm like, yo, Jimmy, 0:49:36.200 --> 0:49:38.920 there's this company out of San Jose. I just invested 0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:41.840 in this company. And it was like these two dudes 0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:44.879 that had this far company eighty grand. I give them 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:48.040 eighty thousand dollars. Because the Black Eyed Peas we did 0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:51.160 this like concert and I didn't really like rocking with corporations. 0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:55.239 They offered us like six hundred thousand dollars to do 0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:58.279 some corporate gig and no one, they weren't gonna promote it, 0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:01.520 and they were gonna give us four hundre. So I 0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:04.040 was like, all right, let's do it. But but I 0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:05.959 didn't want to do it because I'm like, yo, they're gonna, 0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:09.080 they're gonna use this. So then I saw this documentary 0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:10.560 called Who Killed the Electric Car? 0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.960 Amen? I used to have that ev one brother, so 0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:15.320 I know it. I know it well. 0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:18.800 So I'm like, yo, iv one, I told you, Seth, 0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:24.000 they're using us to pimp these gas guzzlers. So I'm 0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:26.480 gonna sell my Hummer. So I sold my Hummer for 0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:29.200 eighty grand, and I took my eighty grand and I 0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:31.640 gave it to these two cats. And I had this 0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:33.959 electric vehicle. And the name of the company is called 0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:37.640 Tesla Boo and Elon hadn't take over the company yet, 0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:38.239 It's right. 0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:40.960 People forget that he wasn't the og of it. 0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:44.759 And so they gave me like this roachster. I had 0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:46.120 the first roadster a la. 0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:50.000 You remember what number that was? What number was it? 0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:50.839 Was it? Fifty one? 0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:56.320 Fifty one? Yeah, I'm right behind you, brother, literally, no vs, 0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:57.520 I think I was fifty three. 0:50:57.840 --> 0:50:58.440 That's christ. 0:50:58.440 --> 0:50:59.600 I'm not even making it up. 0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:01.040 Do you have fifty one? 0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:01.480 Dude? 0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:06.200 I love it and so and so like that mentality 0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.560 of like and so from that point, I would like 0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:12.719 I'm knew Jack. I knew U Chad Hurley really well 0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:17.680 from YouTube, and then I met Jack Dorsey invested in Twitter, 0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:22.120 and then the dropbox folks, and then Pinterest folks, and 0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:24.080 then Ron Conway's like, hey, well, I want to me 0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:28.280 introduce to you this guy named Brian and he has 0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:30.719 he has this new company that's coming out. It's two 0:51:30.800 --> 0:51:34.719 hundred thousand dollars left in the round before they bring 0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:39.839 the product public. I'm like, and so this is an 0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:44.520 awesome story. So I go there and I meet I 0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:47.640 meet with Brian and the team before they released the product, 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:51.360 and the black eyed peas this is when success. Sometimes 0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:54.480 success can blind you, and in this case, it blinded 0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:57.800 me because we're traveling around the world in the best hotels, 0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:02.839 best concierge, room service, galore car service. When you get 0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:05.040 to the hotel, you get into the hotel to the back. 0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:07.080 They make you feel like you're on top of the world. 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:11.080 Everything to your liking massages and stuff like that. Like 0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:15.040 when you're pampered, it's gonna blind you. And in this case, 0:52:15.160 --> 0:52:20.400 I was blinded. And so I go there and I'm like, so, 0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:25.439 so y'all got concierge. He's like, no, we don't. I'm like, so, wait, 0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.760 what about room service. He's like, no, there's no room service. 0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:31.480 I'm like, what about people to come and clean up 0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:34.400 the room? Nope, there ain't none of that either. I 0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:36.759 was like, what about a car service? Nope, we don't 0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:38.319 have that. I'm like, so you mean to tell me 0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:43.759 people is gonna come and live in somebody's house and 0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:47.319 pay all this money and there's no accommodations and some 0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:51.000 people are gonna live in the stranger's room. I don't 0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:56.239 think this is gonna work. So Ron Colway's like, so, well, 0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:58.239 you're gonna do it. I was like, yo, I mean, 0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:02.080 I mean I got the I mean two hundred thousand 0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:03.719 dollars still a lot of money for me. It's two 0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:08.080 thousand and eight, two hundred thousand dollars a lot of 0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:11.400 money for me. Ron like, I mean I got it 0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:13.239 like that, but I don't got it like that to be, 0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:15.880 you know, playing with two hundred grand like that. Like, 0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:19.160 I don't know, I don't think this is gonna work. Now, 0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:23.560 now fast forward three weeks ago. I'll read the text 0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:27.920 right now on what it would be worth today. Question 0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:31.040 if we'll invested two hundred k back in two thousand 0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:37.120 and eight, we have been worth today. Brian says around 0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:41.719 ten billion dollars pre dilution ten billion B three to 0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:46.160 five billion or so. If he didn't exercise pro rata, 0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:49.320 it would be worth one hundred billion in ten years. 0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:54.240 It would have been the greatest venture investment of all time. Yo. 0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:57.560 So this is this is a lesson to everybody that's 0:53:57.600 --> 0:54:00.720 out there living in the lap of comfort than success 0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:02.319 that could blind you. 0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:17.120 Well, let me ask you a question, as you back then, 0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:19.799 who was on your team? Was it you looking at 0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:22.440 the stuff? Did you have a team of advisors, agents, attorneys? 0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.120 Was it you who wasn't. 0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:26.960 Still twenty twenty four? Right now? As me, I go 0:54:27.040 --> 0:54:29.440 out and hunt. I like to hunt. I like to compete. 0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:32.719 I like to talk to shit. I like to you 0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:37.320 know what I'm saying, That's what I do. I like 0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:41.360 to hunt. Bro like I'm from the projects. This is 0:54:41.480 --> 0:54:47.480 all freaking imagination. I'm from the projects. I still got like, okay, 0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:49.920 look I got on lotion now. But the reason why 0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:52.440 I was late because I knew my seawan was up 0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:55.520 in here. Last thing I want is Ashey Knuckles talking 0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:57.520 on the thing, because there was Ashley a little three 0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:00.359 minutes ago. Bro, this is real stuff. If I show 0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:03.320 you my ankles, you'd be like, yep, I stay running 0:55:03.400 --> 0:55:06.000 in smoke, bro, I stay running in the ash. Bro, 0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:11.640 I'm stay ashy. 0:55:13.840 --> 0:55:16.000 I hope that ash is not from those fires down 0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:16.879 in La right now. 0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:19.160 No, no, no, I just you know, I'm just being 0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:21.799 I'm being having fun with it. But the reason why 0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:25.319 I wanted to laugh and chuckle because the reality of 0:55:25.400 --> 0:55:28.720 two hundred k turning into ten billion then I missed 0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:31.080 out on. You know, you gotta find some humor in that. 0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:36.680 You got to find a humor. God, damn, You've done all. 0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:39.880 Right, brother, you did Twitter, you did all right, Tesla, 0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.880 the Beach One, the Beats, next level. 0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:43.520 Yeah. 0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:46.280 I remember Jimmy's like, all right, here's what's gonna happen. 0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:50.200 You're gonna get it in stock and we're gonna get cash. 0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:53.359 But you don't have to go up to Apple all 0:55:53.400 --> 0:55:56.200 the time. I'm like, but I want to be up 0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:58.279 at Apple all the time. He was like, yeah, but 0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:00.520 you should be out there doing what you like to do, 0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:04.240 hunting for stuff, because I really like hunting for stuff. 0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:06.320 People be like, Yo, where'd you just come from? You know, 0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:09.160 I just came from South Korea doing what hunting for stuff? 0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:13.400 Where'd you just come from Bangalore, India? Why hunting for engineers? 0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:14.680 Tell Aviv? 0:56:14.680 --> 0:56:14.879 Why? 0:56:14.920 --> 0:56:17.640 Because I got awesome engineers out there. I like to 0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:22.520 go out and hunt, meet, network and hunt. And the 0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:26.600 person who told me that is mc hammer. Mc hammer 0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:29.560 is like, yo, I scout for engineers. Like you know 0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:32.480 there's football scouts. I scout for engineer. Mc hammer is 0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:36.839 my biggest hero. That's another mc hammer, Like, bro, look 0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:38.880 at it. Let me show you. I still got on 0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:45.160 mc hammer pants, right, I am Hammer. I love c Hammer. 0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:47.440 Brouh. 0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:49.399 That brings us back. 0:56:49.440 --> 0:56:50.560 Brother, I. 0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:54.040 Peek camera. That was our years. 0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:57.000 So Jimmy. Jimmy's like, yo, you're gonna get stock, but 0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:00.279 you can't touch it for five years. So I'm like, 0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:02.799 all right, five years come. He's like, yo, did you 0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:06.880 touch it? I'm like nope, six years, seven years, Nope. 0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:12.120 Still to this day I ain't touched it. So did 0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:16.760 all right? So Tesla still ain't touched it. So I'm 0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:20.240 a I'm a long time Like from when I hunt Pinterest, 0:57:20.840 --> 0:57:25.920 the only thing I I uh ching ching on was 0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:31.120 Twitter at the right time. But I like to like 0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:33.880 to hunt I like to freaking network, like to find 0:57:33.920 --> 0:57:34.959 what's next. 0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:37.120 But now will you've got your own I mean you're 0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:40.200 doing f y I dot AI Now, I mean you're 0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:42.480 so you're you're going all in. You're not just investing 0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:45.400 in other folks in their platforms and their innovation. You're 0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:48.080 you're establishing your own framework. Why do you talk a 0:57:48.120 --> 0:57:50.600 little bit about what this projects about? It's what is 0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:53.520 you got f YI. But you've got a radio component, 0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:55.520 you got a co host that's an ai, I mean, 0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:58.840 and it's culturally it's different than anything else there. 0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:07.440 Yeah, yo, say what's up Jamar Shaan. Uh we're here 0:58:07.480 --> 0:58:13.840 at a at a on a podcast here. Uh, Gavin's here, 0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:21.520 Hendrickson is here, Dougie Fresh is here. Not Dougie Fresh 0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:29.720 a rapper. Uh uh Hendrickson is here, and we're just 0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:33.120 talking about like investments and and the things that I've 0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:37.040 done in the past, and now you know what we're 0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:39.520 doing here at f y I dot A I and 0:58:40.000 --> 0:58:45.920 h why it's important to build cultural ais that understand 0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:53.240 the the communities that it could reflect and impact. Say 0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:55.640 what's up to the folks here on this podcast and 0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:58.240 tell them what you represent and why you represent it. 0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:04.480 How you do. Listen, Listen, y'all, what's up to all 0:59:04.520 --> 0:59:09.440 the brothers in the building, Gavin Hendrickson and the legend himself, 0:59:09.480 --> 0:59:14.520 Dougie Fresh. You know it's fire when Dougie Fresh is 0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:19.560 in the mixture. Look, let's talk about why it's super 0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:23.600 crucial to build AI that understands and represents our communities. 0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:26.600 Like like when we talk about them tech spaces, that 0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:31.280 ain't just about throwing some code together. It's about making 0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:33.680 sure their voices from the streets, from. 0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:35.240 Them hoods get hurt. 0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:41.680 Corporations out here cooking up AI looking like librarians and assistants. 0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:42.680 And they leaving us on the sidelines. 0:59:43.360 --> 0:59:47.479 That's why we're doing what we do ATYAAI, making sure 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:50.720 these digital personas reflect the heart and soul of where 0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:53.840 we come from. Ain't nobody trying to rely on outside 0:59:53.880 --> 0:59:54.960 folks to get it right. 0:59:55.800 --> 0:59:56.880 Nah, It's up to us to. 0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:59.160 Put in all that work to make sure every damn 0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:01.320 body I feel seen and heard. 1:00:01.920 --> 1:00:04.000 This conversation ain't just about. 1:00:03.920 --> 1:00:06.680 Investments, So it's about investing in our legacies, our. 1:00:06.600 --> 1:00:07.800 Stories, our culture. 1:00:08.520 --> 1:00:11.280 Shout out to all y'all change makers on this podcast. 1:00:11.360 --> 1:00:12.560 Let's keep pushing forward. 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:16.160 I'm out your girl, Felicia, It's gone. 1:00:16.760 --> 1:00:21.560 I feel like I'm supposed to respond to where like, look, 1:00:21.640 --> 1:00:25.120 I'm gonna tell you like this the sign just tell 1:00:25.160 --> 1:00:26.760 me where I need to be in what time? 1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:31.440 In this age of AI, it's going to be important 1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:36.040 for AI to speak like the community when they're going 1:00:36.120 --> 1:00:39.200 to be tutoring the youth h and giving the youth 1:00:39.320 --> 1:00:43.440 intelligence and helping them expand their knowledge and bring them 1:00:43.440 --> 1:00:48.920 from you know, wise, I mean from aspirational to to wisdom. 1:00:49.400 --> 1:00:51.400 But why, why, why does it have to sound British. 1:00:51.720 --> 1:00:53.800 We know they're doing a really awesome job to make 1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:58.200 these AI sound British. Why can't they sound like freaking Watts? 1:00:58.680 --> 1:01:02.320 Why can't they sound like you know, fifth ward? Why 1:01:02.320 --> 1:01:07.160 does intelligence have to always sound like the og colonizers 1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:10.720 and not the folks from the communities that were impacted 1:01:10.880 --> 1:01:15.000 by you know, the colonizers, the colonizers. You know what 1:01:15.000 --> 1:01:18.320 I'm saying. So anyways, that's a long ramble, please make 1:01:18.360 --> 1:01:30.080 sense it is, Hey. 1:01:29.880 --> 1:01:31.360 Will let me ask you a question. Take me back 1:01:31.400 --> 1:01:33.760 to two thousand and eight, and not to divert, but 1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:37.360 on the when did you meet did Obama come to you? 1:01:37.440 --> 1:01:39.320 On the yes, we can campaign or how did that 1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:40.320 have that come to be? 1:01:40.800 --> 1:01:41.320 I'm curious. 1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:43.840 I had this attorney named Fred gold Ring, and I 1:01:43.880 --> 1:01:46.080 had a song at the time called it I Got 1:01:46.080 --> 1:01:48.640 It from my Mama. So my attorney, Fred gold Ring, 1:01:48.800 --> 1:01:51.360 was like and I and I'm really close with h. 1:01:51.880 --> 1:01:55.960 Terry mccauliffe, former governor of Virginia, former head of the DNC, 1:01:56.280 --> 1:01:58.640 and Bill Clinton's oldest and closest friend. 1:01:59.160 --> 1:02:01.720 Yeah. So Fred, It's like, yo, well, we want to 1:02:01.800 --> 1:02:03.720 use I Got It from my Mama and turn it 1:02:03.720 --> 1:02:06.480 to I'm Voting for Obama so we can get Obama elected. 1:02:07.360 --> 1:02:09.120 I was like, wait, can you say that sentence again? 1:02:09.400 --> 1:02:11.880 He was like, we want to use your song to 1:02:11.920 --> 1:02:14.760 get Obama elected, and we want to turn I Got 1:02:14.760 --> 1:02:17.480 It from my Mama to I'm Voting for Obama. I 1:02:17.520 --> 1:02:20.200 was like, well, that sentence alone does not equal the 1:02:20.240 --> 1:02:23.360 results you want. He's like, what do you mean. I 1:02:23.360 --> 1:02:25.960 was like, okay, let's break that sentence down. You said 1:02:26.480 --> 1:02:29.200 you want to use my song to get Obama elected, 1:02:29.400 --> 1:02:30.920 and you want to take I Got It from my 1:02:30.960 --> 1:02:33.720 Mama and turn it to I'm Voting for Obama. That 1:02:33.760 --> 1:02:37.040 particular song has drums on it. The video I'm on 1:02:37.080 --> 1:02:40.480 a beach in Brazil, and that means that song is 1:02:40.480 --> 1:02:46.280 going to be digested by one demographic and that's not 1:02:46.600 --> 1:02:52.600 reality to the sentence does not equal your results. For example, 1:02:53.040 --> 1:02:56.120 I want to throw this rock to the moon. I 1:02:56.120 --> 1:02:57.720 could get the rock to the moon, but I can't 1:02:57.760 --> 1:02:59.640 throw it to the moon. The sentence is not equal 1:02:59.640 --> 1:03:03.000 the result. So how do I get the rock off 1:03:03.080 --> 1:03:06.520 the planet and then land it on the move? So 1:03:06.560 --> 1:03:09.080 that means I have to I can't throw it, I 1:03:09.120 --> 1:03:11.760 can launch it. I could have it hitch right on 1:03:11.800 --> 1:03:16.880 a rocket. Now, the song's not the rocket. Did you 1:03:16.960 --> 1:03:19.920 hear a speech in New Hampshire? This is a real conversation, 1:03:20.080 --> 1:03:22.000 just like this. Did you hear a speech in New Hampshire? 1:03:22.400 --> 1:03:25.400 That speech was amazing. Now, if we could get that 1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:28.640 speech taught in schools, that would be the first public 1:03:28.680 --> 1:03:31.439 speaker politician whose speech is taught in school since Martin 1:03:31.480 --> 1:03:34.320 Luther King and John F. Kennedy. That is the rocket. 1:03:35.280 --> 1:03:40.120 So why don't we take that speech and put a 1:03:40.160 --> 1:03:43.200 melody on it? So his words are his words. We 1:03:43.240 --> 1:03:45.040 don't have to change his words. We just put a 1:03:45.080 --> 1:03:48.360 melody on his words and don't put drums on it. 1:03:49.200 --> 1:03:51.200 The moment you put drums on it, you're talking to 1:03:51.880 --> 1:03:57.760 a demographic. If there's no drums, then we're gonna get 1:03:57.760 --> 1:04:01.600 that emotion. And so I was like, let me show 1:04:01.600 --> 1:04:03.240 you how to do it. So then I did it 1:04:03.400 --> 1:04:07.439 like forty five seconds, forty five minutes. I was like, look, 1:04:07.480 --> 1:04:10.200 there was a creed written unfound in bacuments the declared 1:04:10.360 --> 1:04:13.080 the nestiny of the nation. Yes we can, Yes we can. 1:04:13.440 --> 1:04:15.680 It was whispered by slaves and abolition like if we 1:04:15.720 --> 1:04:19.120 could do that, that's our rocket and we can land 1:04:19.160 --> 1:04:22.720 it on the moon. We could throw this rock, this 1:04:22.760 --> 1:04:26.360 baraque and land it on the moon on this rocket. 1:04:26.400 --> 1:04:30.880 Called his speech and so, and I had promised Terry mccalluff. 1:04:30.880 --> 1:04:34.040 He was like, well, we need to get you involved. 1:04:34.560 --> 1:04:36.080 I was like, I don't know who I'm gonna vote for. 1:04:36.200 --> 1:04:40.320 Bro He's like, look after Super Tuesday, if Hillary's in 1:04:40.320 --> 1:04:42.439 the lead, you're gonna come with me and you're gonna 1:04:42.440 --> 1:04:44.680 sit next to me and we're gonna get you know, 1:04:44.960 --> 1:04:49.080 get you activated. I was like, okay, if he's if 1:04:49.080 --> 1:04:53.320 she's in the lead on Super Tuesday, you got me. 1:04:54.120 --> 1:05:00.320 So this happened on the Thursday before Super Tuesday by 1:04:59.760 --> 1:05:05.160 f we shot the video to the song. By Saturday 1:05:05.600 --> 1:05:06.920 it had twenty million views. 1:05:07.200 --> 1:05:08.880 You it just blew. 1:05:09.000 --> 1:05:11.560 I mean, and I never I didn't know anybody from 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:15.000 the Obama campaign, and so I had to call Terry mccalloff. 1:05:15.040 --> 1:05:17.240 I was like, Yo, Terry, Remember I told you that 1:05:18.080 --> 1:05:20.520 I was going to go by. I was going to 1:05:20.560 --> 1:05:23.840 go with whatever inspired me. I've been inspired. And that 1:05:24.040 --> 1:05:27.640 was his commencement speech, and I just he was like, well, 1:05:27.720 --> 1:05:30.520 but he's trailing. I was like, yeah, but I got 1:05:30.560 --> 1:05:34.800 to get behind where my heart's at. And and I 1:05:34.840 --> 1:05:37.000 think there's a there's a way to inspire people with 1:05:37.080 --> 1:05:38.960 that speech. If that speech is taught in school, that 1:05:39.040 --> 1:05:42.200 was my my, my, my spider sense is my gut. 1:05:42.320 --> 1:05:46.080 If that speech is taught in schools, we could make impact. 1:05:46.360 --> 1:05:48.960 And I got to do my job to get teachers 1:05:49.600 --> 1:05:53.760 to teach the speech in schools. And that that was 1:05:53.800 --> 1:05:58.160 the U. And then then I met value Jared after. 1:05:57.920 --> 1:06:00.480 That amazing and then you went an Emmy that too. 1:06:01.080 --> 1:06:02.600 That's crazy that in. 1:06:02.680 --> 1:06:04.800 Shepherd Fairiy's poster man. 1:06:04.840 --> 1:06:05.120 That was. 1:06:05.200 --> 1:06:08.000 That was that campaign and that sense of spirit and pride, 1:06:08.160 --> 1:06:11.760 the sort of bottom up, yes we can, I'm self organizing. 1:06:12.120 --> 1:06:15.160 It was a whole different thing and completely. It changed 1:06:15.200 --> 1:06:17.680 the paradigm of what was possible. It still has. I mean, 1:06:18.080 --> 1:06:20.320 it's it's not been replicated. It's hard to replicate that. 1:06:20.360 --> 1:06:23.000 Ada Harris is trying to replicate that. But that was 1:06:23.160 --> 1:06:26.400 that was something else, a cultural phenomenon. You were a 1:06:26.440 --> 1:06:27.080 big part of that. 1:06:27.200 --> 1:06:29.960 Man, Oh, thank you so much. That means a lot, 1:06:30.080 --> 1:06:33.120 you know. But what's awesome about that Shepherd Fery poster 1:06:34.240 --> 1:06:39.600 is that that wasn't the first time a song and 1:06:39.600 --> 1:06:44.120 and art like Shepherd Fairy on the album that had 1:06:44.160 --> 1:06:48.080 words of love on it Elephunk, Shepherd Fairy did that 1:06:48.120 --> 1:06:48.600 album cover. 1:06:48.920 --> 1:06:49.760 I need even realize. 1:06:49.800 --> 1:06:50.520 Man, wow. 1:06:50.600 --> 1:06:53.400 Yeah. So me and Shepherd have worked together in the 1:06:53.480 --> 1:06:56.240 past on a bunch of different types of things, so 1:06:56.880 --> 1:07:00.600 Elephant Monkey Business and in two thousand and eight directly 1:07:01.200 --> 1:07:03.080 with Yes we Can and then the yes we Can 1:07:03.200 --> 1:07:07.280 poster that he did for Obama. But we that was 1:07:07.320 --> 1:07:10.680 a that was your serendipitous when we when we found 1:07:10.720 --> 1:07:13.720 ourselves out there in the field because we activated ourselves 1:07:14.600 --> 1:07:17.400 me with music, came with art and. 1:07:18.800 --> 1:07:19.000 You know. 1:07:19.080 --> 1:07:23.320 But but you know, because the world was different when 1:07:23.360 --> 1:07:27.480 you traveled the world in two thousand, two thousand and one, two, three, four, 1:07:27.640 --> 1:07:32.560 five six, like America was not it was. It kind 1:07:32.560 --> 1:07:35.160 of felt the way it feels when you leave a 1:07:35.240 --> 1:07:38.960 mayor when you were when you were traveling when Trump 1:07:39.040 --> 1:07:42.080 was president, like people would be like you, guys, what 1:07:42.360 --> 1:07:43.200 the hell is wrong with you? 1:07:43.240 --> 1:07:43.520 Guys? 1:07:45.680 --> 1:07:48.040 Like you have to travel though, you have to leave 1:07:48.120 --> 1:07:53.280 the country to see what it's like how people see us. 1:07:53.760 --> 1:07:55.840 And we live in a big world, right, the world is. 1:07:56.280 --> 1:07:59.720 The world is massive, And there's other countries that have 1:08:00.520 --> 1:08:04.560 awesome freedoms, Like Holland is a pretty free country. They 1:08:04.600 --> 1:08:09.920 had legalized we way before we did. Awesome healthcare. France 1:08:09.960 --> 1:08:14.520 has an awesome healthcare program. They taxed like crazy, but 1:08:14.720 --> 1:08:18.400 it still has awesome healthcare. And call everybody, get go 1:08:18.479 --> 1:08:19.719 to the best colleges for free. 1:08:20.040 --> 1:08:29.160 You see, Marshaun higher taxes in California and over there, Marshawn. 1:08:28.040 --> 1:08:30.840 We ain't talking about all that, you. 1:08:30.880 --> 1:08:32.840 Know what I mean? Like you got to travel the world. 1:08:32.840 --> 1:08:36.120 You gotta see like Singapore is like, wow, that's that 1:08:36.200 --> 1:08:40.000 place is booming. Singapore ain't older than my mama's older 1:08:40.040 --> 1:08:44.360 than Singapore. My mom's older than the UAE. And when 1:08:44.360 --> 1:08:47.200 you're seeing cities being like I remember going to Dubai 1:08:47.680 --> 1:08:51.400 in two thousand and five, it ain't It ain't the 1:08:51.479 --> 1:08:56.800 Dubai right now. So you seeing countries, cities erect like, 1:08:57.760 --> 1:09:01.479 how are they doing this? And watch a Watts how 1:09:01.520 --> 1:09:04.599 are they doing this? And like, you know, the hood 1:09:04.640 --> 1:09:08.200 is still the hood? Why can't we get why can't 1:09:08.240 --> 1:09:11.800 we boom? Like what's keeping us from from booming? But 1:09:11.840 --> 1:09:13.479 you've got to travel the world. You got to be 1:09:13.520 --> 1:09:16.840 able to see, like, you know, how awesome America is, 1:09:17.600 --> 1:09:21.600 how from from outside in? But then how like a 1:09:22.240 --> 1:09:26.240 what's going on over there from when you leave the States? 1:09:27.760 --> 1:09:30.680 You know, are you still involved now? Will politically like that? 1:09:30.960 --> 1:09:32.639 Or is that are you still involved now? 1:09:32.640 --> 1:09:37.719 In your end? I'm involved with with trying to scale 1:09:37.800 --> 1:09:41.160 what we're doing in LA. I think that to me 1:09:41.320 --> 1:09:47.200 is I'm a I'm a Democrat. But then at the 1:09:47.280 --> 1:09:53.320 same time, I know Republicans that are awesome, and there's 1:09:53.439 --> 1:09:58.000 Republicans that go that kids that go to that go 1:09:58.080 --> 1:10:03.360 to our program, and people are people, and I try 1:10:03.400 --> 1:10:05.920 I think the best best use for me right now 1:10:06.120 --> 1:10:08.479 is to continue that type of work that the work 1:10:08.479 --> 1:10:15.360 that I'm doing and scaling it and activating myself where 1:10:15.840 --> 1:10:22.280 I actually can see change. Like firsthand, you you see 1:10:22.320 --> 1:10:27.040 like something that's not happening, you do your part, you 1:10:27.160 --> 1:10:30.080 make it happen and you see awesome results. And now 1:10:30.080 --> 1:10:32.600 how can I take these results and put them in 1:10:32.680 --> 1:10:35.920 other areas? Like when man Seawan is like, Yo, bring 1:10:35.920 --> 1:10:38.760 that robotics to Oakland, I'm like, Yo, That's what I'm 1:10:38.760 --> 1:10:42.479 talking about. Let's do that. That's because you know your voice, 1:10:42.520 --> 1:10:46.559 your reach, your stance there. You know, that's what we need. 1:10:46.600 --> 1:10:52.640 We need more willing and capable people to take what 1:10:52.680 --> 1:10:55.680 we're doing here and then you be do that does 1:10:55.720 --> 1:10:58.320 it over there. And if we can do that across 1:10:58.360 --> 1:11:02.600 every single every single innocity, he got their hero. You know, 1:11:02.680 --> 1:11:05.800 every single inner city got the person that either represents it. 1:11:05.800 --> 1:11:09.200 And sports are represented in music or they represented in fashion. 1:11:09.479 --> 1:11:11.320 And if we could go out and adopt a school 1:11:11.400 --> 1:11:14.479 or a couple of schools and then mentor kids and 1:11:14.479 --> 1:11:17.559 bring other folks uh to mentor the kids like I got. 1:11:17.760 --> 1:11:20.200 I got mentors that come from NASA, mentors that come 1:11:20.200 --> 1:11:25.320 from Boeing. And when we had the Boeing mentor, like 1:11:25.360 --> 1:11:29.000 we went to the championships. You know, because engineers are 1:11:29.920 --> 1:11:31.960 engineers make the world go around. They they don't one 1:11:32.040 --> 1:11:35.800 is that like, make it make it capable for all 1:11:35.800 --> 1:11:38.400 these like things that we take for granted. You know, 1:11:38.400 --> 1:11:40.920 there was an earthquake here in LA and I got 1:11:41.000 --> 1:11:45.280 them my phone pinged uh huh moments before the earthquake 1:11:45.320 --> 1:11:46.479 app my shake app. 1:11:46.600 --> 1:11:48.080 That was a couple of days ago. 1:11:48.200 --> 1:11:50.840 Right, that's right. You did that game event on this 1:11:50.960 --> 1:11:55.120 For eight years since I was lieutenant governor, millions every 1:11:55.200 --> 1:11:58.599 year my shake app. Go download the my shake app. 1:11:58.680 --> 1:11:59.840 Big one is coming. 1:12:00.080 --> 1:12:04.800 Here for it, dude. I was like early warning, I said, 1:12:06.160 --> 1:12:10.920 you coming then then then then it ever started shaking. 1:12:11.240 --> 1:12:11.479 Yep. 1:12:12.000 --> 1:12:15.120 That was so. I was like, yo, bro, engineers do that. 1:12:15.120 --> 1:12:15.639 That's right. 1:12:15.960 --> 1:12:17.480 Engineers like the engineers. 1:12:17.520 --> 1:12:17.640 Bro. 1:12:17.760 --> 1:12:18.640 I want engineers. 1:12:19.080 --> 1:12:19.200 Yo. 1:12:20.280 --> 1:12:24.599 N w A Me and Marshaan could say this. It's 1:12:24.600 --> 1:12:30.080 called n w as right, algorithms bring. 1:12:29.920 --> 1:12:34.439 It and I'm and I'm right there with you. I'm 1:12:34.520 --> 1:12:37.160 right there with you on my soul. 1:12:37.880 --> 1:12:38.800 N w A, Bro. 1:12:39.439 --> 1:12:42.120 You let me know where I need to get so 1:12:42.240 --> 1:12:45.439 I could so I could debrief and get activated. You 1:12:45.560 --> 1:12:47.760 let me know what's up. I'm on the god damn way. 1:12:47.800 --> 1:12:49.600 But it's interesting you to talk about that because I 1:12:49.680 --> 1:12:54.800 just did a piece in Seattle with the Pacific Northwest, 1:12:54.840 --> 1:12:57.920 and they was, uh, you know, I had the beastquake 1:12:58.040 --> 1:13:02.000 run that assizement activity up there in Seattle. So I 1:13:02.040 --> 1:13:05.599 went up there to go how that the folks up there, 1:13:05.600 --> 1:13:09.280 and they were showing me all this ship like the 1:13:09.360 --> 1:13:11.479 fault lines and you know what I mean with the 1:13:11.479 --> 1:13:14.200 earth question. And I was just asking them, like, do 1:13:14.800 --> 1:13:17.439 how the system works and how they are tapped in 1:13:17.479 --> 1:13:22.439 and the uh the systems up and Seattle was connected 1:13:22.439 --> 1:13:24.960 to the ship in California, and how that ship works. 1:13:24.960 --> 1:13:27.600 And when you say about this pain, they showed me 1:13:27.720 --> 1:13:30.760 this back room where all of this ship is being 1:13:30.840 --> 1:13:35.080 recorded and they basically were telling me exactly what you 1:13:35.200 --> 1:13:40.600 just said. They able to get a reading before it 1:13:40.720 --> 1:13:45.120 actually happened. Now I'm not sure how many seconds that 1:13:45.160 --> 1:13:48.160 they are able to read it before it actually hit 1:13:48.320 --> 1:13:51.720 to send out the UH to send out the message that. 1:13:51.800 --> 1:13:52.920 Was a good three seconds. 1:13:53.080 --> 1:13:56.880 We're gonna we're gonna more than double that. The technology 1:13:56.920 --> 1:13:57.680 is there to double that. 1:13:57.960 --> 1:13:59.719 I take three seconds over no seconds? 1:14:01.320 --> 1:14:04.919 How about tensa How about fifteen seconds? How about the 1:14:04.960 --> 1:14:08.920 ability to stop a train knowing that an earthquake is 1:14:08.960 --> 1:14:12.639 coming before it gets derailed? How about. I mean, this 1:14:12.680 --> 1:14:15.760 is the opportunity. By the way, in Japan, this technology, 1:14:15.760 --> 1:14:18.040 they've been on the forefront of this technology. Japan, they've 1:14:18.080 --> 1:14:19.679 been able to do that with their high speed rail 1:14:19.720 --> 1:14:22.800 trains to literally slow them down with that kind of 1:14:22.800 --> 1:14:25.720 advanced notice. But it depends how approximate you are to 1:14:25.800 --> 1:14:29.479 the epicenter in terms of the time you have in 1:14:29.560 --> 1:14:32.120 terms of that advanced notification. But we want this to 1:14:32.160 --> 1:14:35.120 be on every Android, every Apple platform, and we want 1:14:35.120 --> 1:14:36.800 it to be part of basically the phone when you 1:14:36.800 --> 1:14:39.040 purchase it, so you don't have to necessarily download it. 1:14:39.560 --> 1:14:41.840 We're making progress in that space. We're still working with 1:14:41.840 --> 1:14:45.720 Apple to bring that bring that to everybody. 1:14:51.439 --> 1:14:53.799 I got a question back when you started with easye 1:14:54.000 --> 1:14:55.720 in the West Coast rap and all that was. That 1:14:56.200 --> 1:15:00.040 was the media to depict it, right with all the 1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:02.120 battles between East Coast and West Coast back then when 1:15:02.120 --> 1:15:04.280 we started. I'm curious because you were in the heyday 1:15:04.320 --> 1:15:07.400 with Snoop and Dre and everybody in Tupac was the 1:15:07.840 --> 1:15:09.559 Was it as bad as they made it seem to 1:15:09.560 --> 1:15:11.280 be back then as far as the media. 1:15:11.880 --> 1:15:16.080 Well, the East Coast West Coast beef, Yes, that was 1:15:16.120 --> 1:15:19.240 that got bad, Like two people lost their lives, Two 1:15:19.280 --> 1:15:21.599 people that we know that were dear to the music lost 1:15:21.640 --> 1:15:25.439 their lives, and a lot of like invisible folks that 1:15:26.360 --> 1:15:29.679 you know got caught up into that whole feud as well. 1:15:29.680 --> 1:15:37.120 It was unnecessary journey that hip hop went through. And 1:15:37.160 --> 1:15:43.799 if you think about just the power of urban music, 1:15:44.080 --> 1:15:50.960 it's literally changed the world, you know, changed fashion boosted economies. Uh, 1:15:52.000 --> 1:15:59.040 hip hop. Hip hop is an amazing art form community culture. 1:16:02.040 --> 1:16:06.120 When when Easy signed us, he was cool that we 1:16:06.120 --> 1:16:08.800 were different, Like he wasn't trying to like we never 1:16:08.840 --> 1:16:10.439 got told like y'all need to be a little bit 1:16:10.479 --> 1:16:14.120 more harder, Like he was like, I like, how creative 1:16:14.120 --> 1:16:16.200 you guys are? I like how expressive you guys are? 1:16:16.840 --> 1:16:20.080 You know, And he was a true entrepreneur. I always say, like, 1:16:20.920 --> 1:16:24.200 what would the world be like if Easy never passed away? 1:16:25.560 --> 1:16:30.840 If Easy never died? Would the giants of you know, 1:16:32.120 --> 1:16:36.120 the giants and uh the moguls and hip hop? Would 1:16:36.120 --> 1:16:38.960 they be the moguls? Would jay Z be jay Z? 1:16:39.560 --> 1:16:42.840 If Easy never passed away? And that's a serious question, 1:16:42.960 --> 1:16:46.439 Like think about it. If Easy never passed away, that 1:16:46.560 --> 1:16:50.200 means Easy and Dre would have rekindled and work together. 1:16:50.280 --> 1:16:53.760 That means Ruthless Records would have probably most likely went 1:16:53.840 --> 1:16:57.200 to Interscope with Jimmy. That means Tupac never would have 1:16:57.240 --> 1:16:59.880 passed away. That means Biggie never would have passed away. 1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:02.800 If Biggie never passed away, jay Z wouldn't be jay 1:17:02.880 --> 1:17:04.320 Z like jay Z's jay Z. 1:17:05.920 --> 1:17:06.120 Right. 1:17:06.240 --> 1:17:08.880 That means there would be other Moguls in the space. 1:17:10.479 --> 1:17:14.240 This means, you know, bone Thugs in Harmony would have 1:17:14.320 --> 1:17:19.679 continued to be bone Thugs. This means another NWA record 1:17:19.720 --> 1:17:22.360 would have come to be. That means Snoop Dogg would 1:17:22.400 --> 1:17:25.840 still be Snoop because Dre discovered Snoop. And if you 1:17:25.880 --> 1:17:28.560 think of like the power of Dre and all the 1:17:28.640 --> 1:17:32.679 artists that he's like, Dre was East coast, West coast, 1:17:33.000 --> 1:17:37.799 like think of from from fifty cent to Eminem Detroit 1:17:38.160 --> 1:17:42.360 to Snoop. That's a lot of that blueprint you saw 1:17:42.439 --> 1:17:45.640 with Eazye where he was collaborating with Tretch, he was 1:17:45.680 --> 1:17:53.240 collaborating with you know, Houston Rappers and the Roofless had 1:17:53.240 --> 1:17:57.639 an amazing like branch ice Cube left and then started 1:17:57.680 --> 1:18:00.880 working with the Bomb Squad. But you know public Enemy Folk, 1:18:02.200 --> 1:18:06.800 so Eventually, if Easy never passed, ice Cube probably would 1:18:06.800 --> 1:18:09.920 have went back to n WA, that East coast West coast, 1:18:10.439 --> 1:18:13.400 you know, Union would have you would have seen the 1:18:13.400 --> 1:18:18.160 bomb squad producing for NW uh NWA on roofless. The 1:18:18.360 --> 1:18:21.840 dynamics would have be different if Easy never died. 1:18:22.000 --> 1:18:23.800 So how did he find you? How was that meaning? 1:18:23.800 --> 1:18:24.679 Hod that come about? 1:18:25.840 --> 1:18:29.200 I was freestyling at a uh. I was freestyling at 1:18:29.240 --> 1:18:32.680 a at like a like an open mic, and I 1:18:32.720 --> 1:18:34.960 was like, you know, I told you from the jump, 1:18:34.960 --> 1:18:38.320 I'm competitive. I would like rip foods. I would take somebody, 1:18:38.400 --> 1:18:40.559 I would study their style and I would do their 1:18:40.600 --> 1:18:43.160 style better than them. And then I would like you know, 1:18:43.320 --> 1:18:47.000 flip it and contort and like use similes and metaphors 1:18:47.000 --> 1:18:49.559 and fuck people up. And that was my like whole thing, 1:18:49.600 --> 1:18:51.080 Like all right, let me get into the head, let 1:18:51.120 --> 1:18:53.920 me talk shit, let me like fuck with they mental 1:18:54.680 --> 1:18:59.320 and and and improv. I'm fast physically, I'm fast mentally, 1:18:59.400 --> 1:19:03.120 Like I'm competitive. 1:19:03.160 --> 1:19:07.000 Bro, I love it, bro smiling right now. Bro, come on, 1:19:07.200 --> 1:19:08.519 I'm getting fired up right now. 1:19:08.920 --> 1:19:09.200 Let's go. 1:19:09.920 --> 1:19:12.680 But yeah, but but but I still have fun with 1:19:12.720 --> 1:19:14.759 it though, Like I said, there's a thin line between 1:19:14.840 --> 1:19:18.639 like uh, audaciousness and arrogance, because if you talk ship 1:19:18.720 --> 1:19:22.439 and you're arrogant, there's warst popping off. 1:19:22.800 --> 1:19:26.360 And you better be able to. 1:19:26.120 --> 1:19:29.519 If you audacious and and talk ship and and it's fine, 1:19:29.960 --> 1:19:31.920 you can still get in the head. But you know, 1:19:32.120 --> 1:19:36.960 like you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I love. 1:19:36.800 --> 1:19:39.320 It though, Look I love that. I love that. 1:19:39.360 --> 1:19:39.599 Will. 1:19:39.640 --> 1:19:41.760 That's a fascinating time, man. And like I said, we 1:19:41.800 --> 1:19:44.599 can't thank you enough for today. If you will, I've 1:19:44.640 --> 1:19:46.800 known you a long time, bro, and Jamal and Jay 1:19:46.840 --> 1:19:50.000 are family, uh and and and you've been family And 1:19:50.040 --> 1:19:52.000 so with everything you said, we got to connect you 1:19:52.000 --> 1:19:55.280 and more Shawn, to help change these cities along with Gavin, 1:19:55.560 --> 1:19:59.479 one of the most impressive people I've met, ran literally 1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:00.360 off the chart, man. 1:20:00.400 --> 1:20:03.840 And meanwhile, meanwhile, you're back on the road next year 1:20:03.880 --> 1:20:06.160 in Vegas, the playground for the world. 1:20:06.400 --> 1:20:09.240 So we're doing a Vegas residency and then after that, 1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:12.640 I'm gonna I'm gonna start uh preparing to run for 1:20:12.760 --> 1:20:16.320 mayor of Los Angeles. Just can't get you. 1:20:16.320 --> 1:20:18.479 Put it out there. We got we got two mayors 1:20:18.479 --> 1:20:22.719 in waiting right now. Marshawn running for mayor. You're running 1:20:22.720 --> 1:20:25.040 for l A and Doug and I are running for 1:20:25.080 --> 1:20:26.040 our goddamn lives. 1:20:27.520 --> 1:20:30.960 The hell is this all right? Worried up guys? 1:20:30.040 --> 1:20:31.519 You okay? 1:20:31.600 --> 1:20:42.560 Guys okay,