Speaker 1: Man, what's hand him? Man? You got Marshaw Bismall Lynch.
Speaker 2: Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Knewsome and you're listening to politics.
Speaker 1: You know to be you're known to be.
Speaker 3: Gavin.
Speaker 4: It's interesting. I was on the heels of the debate
Speaker 4: on Tuesday.
Speaker 3: I know you're there.
Speaker 4: I know Marsham was somewhere. I just got back from
Speaker 4: a little trip here. What was the vibe like there
Speaker 4: being there?
Speaker 2: He got crushed. I mean Trump got crushed. He knows
Speaker 2: and he knew it. I mean I was in the
Speaker 2: spin room and all of a sudden, there's all this commotion.
Speaker 2: I'm doing a live hit on NBC or MSNBC, one
Speaker 2: of the two, and everybody looks over our shoulder and
Speaker 2: there's this giant scrum because Trump came down to his
Speaker 2: own spin room. And I'll tell you what it had been.
Speaker 2: There's no greater tell than that. When you are the principal,
Speaker 2: you're in the debate, You've got all these folks, they're
Speaker 2: supposed to be doing that for you. He clearly was
Speaker 2: trying to shape ship the fact that he got crushed,
Speaker 2: and of course he came in as only Trump said.
Speaker 2: He said it was the best debate he ever had.
Speaker 2: He was here in California, trash in California, at his
Speaker 2: golf course, right on the coast, the Pacific Ocean behind him.
Speaker 2: More couldn't be more beautiful, saying it's the worst state
Speaker 2: in the world, trash and everything about California, and said
Speaker 2: he won the debate overwhelmingly. The polls represent that he
Speaker 2: got crushed. It was an embarrassment. He looked weak.
Speaker 4: Old goat explained it to me. So when you say
Speaker 4: the spin room, so he walks, he leaves the stage,
Speaker 4: and the spin room is what how many people are
Speaker 4: in there?
Speaker 3: Who's rooms?
Speaker 2: It's in another room. So you got the convention which
Speaker 2: is just down the road. He made his way all
Speaker 2: the way up to the convention room, and you just
Speaker 2: imagine hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of reporters and all
Speaker 2: doing live shots from the all the spectrum, Fox News,
Speaker 2: not just you know, ABC News and CNN. Everybody's there.
Speaker 2: You got the Who's who the Republican Party. You got
Speaker 2: RFK Junior there, he got Tulca Gabbard there, Vivek Ramaswami,
Speaker 2: you got Doug Bergman all his surrogates, you got all
Speaker 2: of us on the other side, and yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: and everybody's spinning. Of course, for us it was a cakewalk.
Speaker 2: I mean we walked in there big smiles on our face.
Speaker 2: These guys had a hard time spinning the fact that
Speaker 2: it was a good debate for for for Trump, it
Speaker 2: was terrible. I mean, he looked. You can't look at
Speaker 2: it objectively and not and not make.
Speaker 3: That Trump have any words.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I would look forward to see them.
Speaker 2: I want to have some words with him today after
Speaker 2: he's trash in California.
Speaker 1: You should have went and grabbed him gloves that I
Speaker 1: was using out there in Cuba to fight them.
Speaker 2: Cackling those kids. By the way, let's talk about that.
Speaker 2: Where the hell was the ref You were tackling.
Speaker 1: The kids and I had to play to my advantage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two hundred pouds man, two hundred pouds man.
Speaker 1: Them little kids were shifty, man. But you should have
Speaker 1: You should have grabbed some of them gloves and seen
Speaker 1: if a batman can throw them hands.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you that the gloves that were throwing
Speaker 2: or Harris through the gloves, she threw the glove. And
Speaker 2: by the way, if it was a prize fight, Marshawn
Speaker 2: It was a tko in the second round, she took
Speaker 2: him down commanded the stage from the first second when
Speaker 2: she walked right up to him and introduced herself as
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: She she put it out there how to pronounce her her.
Speaker 2: He he's still the disrespect that that that ex president
Speaker 2: has his next level.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: But Gavin, after all this shit he talks about you,
Speaker 4: do you ever feel like when you saw him in
Speaker 4: the spin room to walk up to him and just say, hey, bro,
Speaker 4: you got fucking crushed and look him in the eye
Speaker 4: and walk out?
Speaker 1: Or do you no, Gavin Bro, we from California. We
Speaker 1: don't do no talking. So if you're gonna walk up,
Speaker 1: you got a fire on blood. I ain't gonna even
Speaker 1: hold you. So if you ain't gonna do that, then
Speaker 1: you might as well. Just don't. Don't turn into one
Speaker 1: of these internet gainsts. If you've seen it's on site. Damn,
Speaker 1: you just gotta get off hella quick like.
Speaker 3: Damn, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You got to hit him with a club punch too.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you it's probably been a long
Speaker 1: time since you've been in the club, but you get
Speaker 1: in a club, you off a couple of them shots
Speaker 1: of pa trenity. You get the little wobble like this,
Speaker 1: and then you come overhand like this, right on that chin.
Speaker 1: If he could take that.
Speaker 2: Oh god, you know I was looking at the verbal hits,
Speaker 2: no physical hits. But I appreciate. And by the way,
Speaker 2: when the Secret Service visits you, I just want to
Speaker 2: make sure that we recognized that was Markshawn Lynch talking
Speaker 2: about the physical.
Speaker 1: Tell them they better make sure I ain't got a
Speaker 1: little bit of all in me because I got a
Speaker 1: club punch for they ass too. Have you ever been
Speaker 1: in a Have you ever been in a real fight before?
Speaker 2: Again, you see the scar right there, brother, right there,
Speaker 2: sliding into home plate.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about I'm
Speaker 1: talking about got.
Speaker 2: Into it, got into it. That's a cleat right there, brother,
Speaker 2: that's a cleat right there. Stitches.
Speaker 1: So you're saying you didn't do too well.
Speaker 2: Talk about guns, not just the ones in Oklahoma. Let's
Speaker 2: talk about the guns. But don't I don't take my
Speaker 2: weapon out. I used my verbal weapons. I'm a peacemaker.
Speaker 5: Now he's so.
Speaker 1: Now, so you did throw hands. But back in the day,
Speaker 1: like even when you was a ute.
Speaker 2: When I was good, I was good. I was the
Speaker 2: one getting bullied.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that another day. But no, I
Speaker 2: grew into my own now, no one messes. Well, how
Speaker 2: many people.
Speaker 1: May say, oh, yeah, you got a motherfucking title that
Speaker 1: a lot of motherfuckers are scared of. I wouldn't try to,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, See though, y'all on that
Speaker 1: level together where y'all could actually you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because I see all the YouTubers doing it, I mean,
Speaker 1: the athletes going into it. I mean, you know, go
Speaker 1: ahead and show the political world that you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, y'all ain't scared to get in the ring
Speaker 1: and throw a couple of hands.
Speaker 4: Well, no, here's the deal. Marshawn, Gavin and I both
Speaker 4: had bullies. I'll tell you my story, Gavin can tell his.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget this. I'm in seventh grade, Marshawan, and
Speaker 4: I got this big guy's an eighth grader. Every day
Speaker 4: is waiting for me at the top of the steps,
Speaker 4: and he I would go. I would go around the
Speaker 4: long way to school because I was terrified this guy
Speaker 4: he got me one time, pushed me down and I
Speaker 4: was terrified this guy.
Speaker 1: So you never ate lunch in eighth grade.
Speaker 3: No, I was in seventh grade.
Speaker 4: But then my dad, My dad heard about it, and
Speaker 4: he said, listen, the only way you're gonna be able
Speaker 4: this guy's going to stop bullying you is you got
Speaker 4: to stand up to him. So he literally bought me
Speaker 4: some boxing gloves, took me in the backyard, taught me
Speaker 4: how to box and throw. So finally, after about three weeks,
Speaker 4: I walk up the steps and the big dude's waiting
Speaker 4: for me. And I sat there and the guy said words,
Speaker 4: all the buddies around him, and.
Speaker 3: I got the first push and wa hit the.
Speaker 4: Dude right in the nose. He didn't didn't do anything,
Speaker 4: but he beat me up. But guess what, that was
Speaker 4: the last time that ever happened to me by this guy.
Speaker 3: And then we became friends.
Speaker 1: You upside down by your ankles, and he didn't hand me.
Speaker 4: Upside down like I did. John Schneider in your contract.
Speaker 4: I still have the picture of that one. He said
Speaker 4: that that was my bully. I know, Gavin, you had
Speaker 4: a few bully stories.
Speaker 2: We call it the Bully of Baltimore because it was
Speaker 2: Baltimore Avenue in courtA Madera, and my story done end well.
Speaker 2: But I will say that boxing thing resonated because this
Speaker 2: is around Rocky. When Rocky came out and I was
Speaker 2: doing raw eggs every single morning. It got my gloves
Speaker 2: from Big five down the block. It was hitting all
Speaker 2: the time, and I was ready to go, and I
Speaker 2: went out, went out. He used to surround me. I
Speaker 2: had a paper route and I'd come in on the
Speaker 2: paper route. I used to try to climb in the
Speaker 2: back and it was always hard, but had my bike,
Speaker 2: I couldn't climb over, and so anytime he come down,
Speaker 2: they'd surround me, push me over. My sister would start crying,
Speaker 2: and I will say, see, was my mom not my
Speaker 2: dad in this case. She went down with me one
Speaker 2: night and they lived just down the block and walked
Speaker 2: right in and I thought, I thought she was going
Speaker 2: to take care of it. She made me walk up
Speaker 2: there with her. I'm nervous as hell right behind her,
Speaker 2: and they got into it. My mom was like she
Speaker 2: was young, and they got into it, and the dad
Speaker 2: and the mom were defending the bully, and my mom
Speaker 2: got in it. She turned around and brought us back house.
Speaker 2: About six months later, we moved out of the neighborhood,
Speaker 2: so it didn't end as well.
Speaker 1: You got ran about the spot.
Speaker 2: You can't ran up out the spot. Shit.
Speaker 1: Oh no, man, you know what Bully of Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Man, if he's listening, it ain't over it yet.
Speaker 3: But Marshaun, you know what's crazy about that?
Speaker 4: The incident I had and Gavin you might feel the
Speaker 4: same way as a father, you know, like that scarred
Speaker 4: me literally for a long time. And so whenever I
Speaker 4: hear the kids come back about, you know, a kid
Speaker 4: at school getting picked on by somebody whoever, I always
Speaker 4: go to my So listen, man, here's my story. Go
Speaker 4: befriend that kid, Go find that kid and make it right.
Speaker 4: Because that's the one thing that one of the only
Speaker 4: things that pissed me off as a parent when I
Speaker 4: hear stories of kids eating alone or getting bullied, whatever
Speaker 4: it may be, you know, have someone go pick him
Speaker 4: up and defend him, whatever it may be. And so
Speaker 4: I'm a big believer in that because I went through
Speaker 4: I'm sure the same thing with you guys.
Speaker 2: Say, trust me, man, one hundred percent, Like there's nothing
Speaker 2: I hate more than bullies. And I I completely absolutely
Speaker 2: convinced the exact same thing happened to you. It was
Speaker 2: that early experience. And by the way, it was also
Speaker 2: around that same time that one of my seventh grade classmates,
Speaker 2: seventh grade classmates called me new scum instead of new sum.
Speaker 2: And you know, I listened today Donald Trump. He called
Speaker 2: me new scum about ten times story to press conference.
Speaker 2: All I could think is, this is a guy who
Speaker 2: wants to be president of the United States again calling
Speaker 2: me the same damn nickname that a kid in seventh
Speaker 2: grade he calls you today, Yeah, new scum newscom I mean,
Speaker 2: talk about a man child.
Speaker 1: I could guess we could say that nickname kind of
Speaker 1: stuck with you. Some some people get names like uh
Speaker 1: like beast mode. I mean some you got new scum.
Speaker 1: Some getting new scum. So you know, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean, some things just stick.
Speaker 3: Men. This guy's obsessed with you, bro, It's crazy.
Speaker 2: He's a pathetic weakness ten times today weakness. Bulliers are
Speaker 2: the weakest people in the world. They're weak, they put
Speaker 2: on a mask, they're weak, they're broken, they're insecure. That's
Speaker 2: all that is. That's why you hit him in the face.
Speaker 2: The dude ran away. I mean it's a cliche, it's classic.
Speaker 2: But you know what, a lot of folks don't have
Speaker 2: that courage to hit him back in the face. And
Speaker 2: they and that's why we got to stand up for I.
Speaker 1: Think you just know that it's value in bringing you up.
Speaker 1: So by him bringing you up, then I guess he thinks,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he got the he gonna
Speaker 1: get the ear of some people by bringing up Gad.
Speaker 1: That's that's the that's the value in you, batman.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. No, I'm here for everybody. I told
Speaker 2: you I work for everybody.
Speaker 1: Start getting a little worried if he started calling you batman,
Speaker 1: because then you know he really he really, he really,
Speaker 1: he really honed it in on trying to figure some
Speaker 1: shit out. Yeah, you gotta watch that one, Sodvin.
Speaker 3: Were you surprised he didn't want a debate for the third.
Speaker 2: Time, No, he's scared to death. I mean, of course
Speaker 2: he doesn't want a debate.
Speaker 3: He just he thought he won. He thought he won.
Speaker 2: No, he didn't think he wanted. He knew better. That's
Speaker 2: why he showed up at the spin room. He's a
Speaker 2: con man. He's oster I mean, so, I mean, obviously
Speaker 2: he's spinning the spinners. I mean, it was embarrassment and
Speaker 2: he knows it, and he doesn't want to be embarrassed again,
Speaker 2: so he copped out. He ran, he ran away, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean to talk about it. I mean, she punched
Speaker 2: him in the face and he ran away. I mean
Speaker 2: it's a perfect metaphor for what we just discussed. And uh.
Speaker 2: And the problem is the poll numbers don't reflect much
Speaker 2: of a move. And that goes back to your point.
Speaker 2: In Oklahoma, we're living in two different worlds in the
Speaker 2: same state nation. I mean, it's it's it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a grind, man. It's like World War One. You're just
Speaker 2: in the trenches, inch by inch by inch, back and forth,
Speaker 2: and so nothing about this stuff's going to be easy.
Speaker 2: But it just it's a reflective of the moment we're
Speaker 2: living in.
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny.
Speaker 4: I read I read the Pat Mahomes thing where he
Speaker 4: didn't want to endorse anybody, which I totally did, but
Speaker 4: he was.
Speaker 3: He was his reason why it was great. I sent
Speaker 3: it to Gavin.
Speaker 4: He's like, look, you know, I want you know, people
Speaker 4: can like whoever they want, but live in humanity, you know,
Speaker 4: live together peaceful whole thing.
Speaker 3: So he said it in the right way.
Speaker 4: I can't remember exactly what you said, but it was
Speaker 4: a pretty cool comment. He's like, look, I'm not going
Speaker 4: to get involved in this. That's not my job. But
Speaker 4: you know there was a day when everyone did get
Speaker 4: along and they weren't fighting and killing over you know
Speaker 4: who's going to be the president?
Speaker 2: Amen? And you know, I will say the biggest thing
Speaker 2: they did happened that night was Taylor Swift's endorsement of Harris.
Speaker 2: For no other reason than this, just getting folks that
Speaker 2: may not vote, young folks to vote, get them registered,
Speaker 2: and get them vote to vote, and that could be
Speaker 2: an entire race that could be determinative in this race.
Speaker 2: Don't ever underestimate her influence and power. And as I
Speaker 2: gave advice to Trump, he should be very careful of
Speaker 2: how he reacts to that endorsement.
Speaker 4: Kevin, have you seen an influx of the younger people
Speaker 4: from the last three elections? More votes of the eighteen
Speaker 4: to twenty two year old out since eight And when
Speaker 4: Obama started to now.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, well, it's going to be a good
Speaker 2: segue to will I am. It was so instrumental as
Speaker 2: a cultural icon during that two thousand and eight election
Speaker 2: with Obama. But no, it's I mean, you've seen regression
Speaker 2: in that respect. There's a lot of cynicism with young
Speaker 2: folks in the last few years about politics and politicians,
Speaker 2: and so they're walking away. That's why it's a big
Speaker 2: deal that not only she dialed in for Harris, but
Speaker 2: she's dialing up the registration and the energy for the
Speaker 2: Harris campaign. So no, I mean it's the young folks
Speaker 2: that ultimately will sway this election or like will determine
Speaker 2: the fame and future of this election and the issues
Speaker 2: they care about, the issues Harris cares about, the climate issues,
Speaker 2: a gun policy, gun safety issues obviously, around democracy and
Speaker 2: choice freedom, all those good things, right, Marshan. Hey, by
Speaker 2: the way, Marshan, what the hell is going on? There's
Speaker 2: apparently we have an epidemic of people eating cats and dogs.
Speaker 2: Have you been reading about this stuff? Brother?
Speaker 1: I did. Man, I've just seen they dropped. They dropped
Speaker 1: your boy dt uh his mixtape talking about eating cats
Speaker 1: and dogs. Man, they are bro. They doing some ship.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. I don't know, man.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a fucked up time right now.
Speaker 1: I wonder how they're doing it. Is they doing shish
Speaker 1: kebabs or the barbecue grill I mean fried or I
Speaker 1: mean I don't know how they're doing that, but I
Speaker 1: mean leave it, leave it, Leave it up to people.
Speaker 1: They gonna fucking uh put some salt and pepper on
Speaker 1: anything and try it. God damn, that's assuming it happened.
Speaker 2: B s's bs.
Speaker 3: We ever a guest starting ready to jump in right now.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Bring Will in?
Speaker 5: What's up? What's up?
Speaker 3: Will?
Speaker 4: Are you coming?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 5: What's up with it? Way? Gavin?
Speaker 1: How you doing? Brother?
Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us?
Speaker 5: Man, show your daddy whatever?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's had? And Lane? You didn't bounce on this?
Speaker 1: Motherfucker cooler than the fan, my boy? Damn. Look, I'm
Speaker 1: glad I came with a little stam because ship man,
Speaker 1: I gotta you know, I ain't. We gotta represent for that.
Speaker 1: You feel mes one time? God damn is money with
Speaker 1: your big donk.
Speaker 5: Just chilling here?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 5: Just got back from South Korea.
Speaker 2: South Korea.
Speaker 1: That's one of them ones.
Speaker 2: That was one of them ones.
Speaker 1: That's one of them ones.
Speaker 3: On God, I had the pleasure.
Speaker 4: Uh And and Will noses back in the late nineties
Speaker 4: meeting him with my client the Dirty Bird, Jamal Anderson
Speaker 4: and Jay uh Will back in the day my.
Speaker 3: Younger years as an agent.
Speaker 4: But we're so excited to have one of the legendary rappers, singers, songwriter, producers, entrepreneurs,
Speaker 4: any winner with over one hundred million albums sold worldwide,
Speaker 4: an absolute icon in this world. Will I am welcome
Speaker 4: to polit Chicken Broy.
Speaker 5: It's great to great to be here.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I like I'm a I'm a competitor. I like a
Speaker 5: ship and you know, yo, real talk. If I didn't
Speaker 5: get that concussion, I would be like one of the
Speaker 5: best football players. But but I got that concussion.
Speaker 2: Concussion, concussion, I got.
Speaker 5: I got hit hard position.
Speaker 1: What position was you playing?
Speaker 5: I was a taeilback. I'm fast as hell?
Speaker 1: Th Oh is that right?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I'm fast? Bro?
Speaker 1: Like oh so you so you was told that rock then?
Speaker 1: For real?
Speaker 5: Like Jamal Anderson, I mean he ain't fast, but I
Speaker 5: whipped him in the race. Oh, Reggie Bush, he never
Speaker 5: wanted to race me because you know I'll smoke him.
Speaker 1: Okay this day, I'm fast. Reggie got and Reggie got gassed.
Speaker 5: Though Reggie ain't faster than me and Reggie right now on, God, bro,
Speaker 5: you know you never wanted to race me because you
Speaker 5: know I'll skunk you. Bro, like you know that.
Speaker 1: Hey, well hold on if you because Reggie fold three,
Speaker 1: that ain't somebody you know. You just get to just
Speaker 1: be saying, I'm gonna running off phone. So you must
Speaker 1: got some uh some high obtaining the in them things.
Speaker 1: You must got some ponies. You over there running on
Speaker 1: my way.
Speaker 5: I'm four two.
Speaker 1: Damn Okay, now we're talking.
Speaker 3: We're talking, so will will?
Speaker 4: Hey, who was your Who is the back you grew
Speaker 4: up liking the back in the day?
Speaker 3: Who are the running backs you like?
Speaker 5: So my uncle played football for the for the for
Speaker 5: the foul, so it's in the blood.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Then he played for the Rams yep, so yep. And
Speaker 5: then I thought I was gonna follow in his footsteps
Speaker 5: till I got cracked and yep, that's not that that
Speaker 5: that was That was the end of my career. So
Speaker 5: you were just fast, yeah, but sometimes you ain't that
Speaker 5: fast to like if you get in the pitch and
Speaker 5: you turn to the left and bam, like the speed
Speaker 5: don't do everything.
Speaker 4: Will Growing up growing up in La where were you
Speaker 4: playing back in the day as a youngster?
Speaker 3: What years you get the cancut?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: I got the concussion like straight straight seventeen okay, and
Speaker 5: that's when I was like, you know what, I'm just
Speaker 5: gonna do this music stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay. Did this happen in a game or did this
Speaker 1: happen in practice?
Speaker 5: No, this happened in the game, and to the point
Speaker 5: where it messed up how I how I played afterwards,
Speaker 5: because I was always I didn't like the feeling of
Speaker 5: I didn't know how I got there, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like that panic, like how did I get here?
Speaker 5: Like where am I at?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 5: I didn't like that feeling.
Speaker 1: You got that da sold on? Hold on? Did you
Speaker 1: did you get a little nauseated too?
Speaker 5: I got nauseated.
Speaker 1: I got okay. Oh then you had one of them ones? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I lived for that ship.
Speaker 2: How many sean how many times that happened to you
Speaker 2: and cussed? Yeah, like one of those ones as you said.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm being hit like that for show. But
Speaker 1: as far as concussions, I never been diagnosed with a
Speaker 1: uh with a concussion before?
Speaker 5: Do you remember like not remembering?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hell yeah, that's a good question. I mean,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on. I said, I've never been diagnosed.
Speaker 1: Oh got it, got it, So you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I ain't done had him, because I
Speaker 1: know as much as I be hitting motherfuckers with my head,
Speaker 1: I know some I know something going on in that thing.
Speaker 1: We'd like to call it screws loose. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never been diagnosed. But I that feeling when you
Speaker 1: get hit and you get nauseating in your stomach, like
Speaker 1: ooh shit, this ain't this ain't right. But I'll just
Speaker 1: go throw up and then get right back in there
Speaker 1: and try to see what's up. Now. Now, if I
Speaker 1: don't remember, I'll go ask for my team. Hey, which
Speaker 1: one of the motherfucker's hit me? All right, that's who
Speaker 1: did it? All right? Then I gotta go see him
Speaker 1: about something. He got to come meet me in the office.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this, I just asked you if
Speaker 1: it was in a game or in practice, because they
Speaker 1: say we used to have this drill called the Oklahoma drill,
Speaker 1: and that's the head of drill running back in the linebacker.
Speaker 1: And they say that drill alone made more NBA superstars
Speaker 1: than anything. Because if you can, if you can get
Speaker 1: through the Oklahoma hitting drills, then you know what, you
Speaker 1: probably can You probably can make it in this uh
Speaker 1: in this football thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I couldn't have done that.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you didn't.
Speaker 2: Exactly it worked out for everybody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like just just I mean, I love football and
Speaker 5: I love to compete. I like I'm the talk ship
Speaker 5: kind of competitive. I like that because you because you
Speaker 5: can get in the skin and you can fuck the
Speaker 5: whole game up.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, because they're like that type of Yeah, because
Speaker 1: a lot of individuals they don't understand how how mental
Speaker 1: the game is. I think is more physical than anything,
Speaker 1: but mentally, if you as not prepared and mentally you
Speaker 1: are not ready, you'll have a long day. And if
Speaker 1: you're an individual who because you say you could talk
Speaker 1: some ship.
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean if you could just get over that,
Speaker 1: if you could get over that and get through that, yeah,
Speaker 1: you you, that's when you start understanding, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And I take that ship as like life
Speaker 1: learned lessons and I apply that to life, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Because that ship. I recently just got
Speaker 1: back into a to doing double days and I've just
Speaker 1: been having like all these deep ass mental talks, and
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how much, like I missed that ship
Speaker 1: and how much those talks, how much that shit made
Speaker 1: me the individual who I was. And it didn't come
Speaker 1: from no outside source. It was all within. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we take we take a lot of that
Speaker 1: shit for how you say that for granted, we take
Speaker 1: a lot of that ship for granted, but you know,
Speaker 1: recently just getting back into it, like, oh shit, well
Speaker 1: maybe that's how or maybe that's why I was able to,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, stay focused and do the
Speaker 1: shit that I was able to do on the field.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, I mean, I'm talking to myself
Speaker 1: when you getting in there, you grinding, and you just
Speaker 1: feel like you can't do no more, and then you
Speaker 1: automatically to tell yourself like, hey, we done made it there,
Speaker 1: we didn't come this far, Like why turn around and
Speaker 1: you go and put that extra in And then when
Speaker 1: you go out there and you see the actual results
Speaker 1: to it. Now, while you win it, you don't feel it,
Speaker 1: but when you think back, like, ooh shit, dad, damn,
Speaker 1: I didn't know the power of me was so motherfucking strong. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that shit.
Speaker 2: So I will I imagine so as as Marshall was saying,
Speaker 2: he took that off the field and obviously a big
Speaker 2: part of his life. I imagine when you got concussed
Speaker 2: and you took that same competitive energy and spirit, uh
Speaker 2: and that inner voice to all these endeavors, not just
Speaker 2: in music, but across the spectrum, including your entrepreneurial side.
Speaker 2: And and uh so I you still you're still talking
Speaker 2: game and talking shit to your competitors in that space.
Speaker 2: Or how is that mindset advanced your career more broadly
Speaker 2: even even be a on just where we see so
Speaker 2: much of you in the music sets. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So like if you if you're playing basketball, I'm the
Speaker 5: dude on your team that is just mentally trying to
Speaker 5: mess with who we're playing with. If we're playing football,
Speaker 5: I'm that same dude. If we're in a group together,
Speaker 5: I'm that same guy. I'm like, Yo, who's number one
Speaker 5: on the radio this week? All right, cool, let's let's compete.
Speaker 5: You know, if it's if it's like if I'm consulting
Speaker 5: for a company and they need like some some some
Speaker 5: strategic thinking to get around the barricade or over it
Speaker 5: or through it or I like, I like to compete,
Speaker 5: I like to study, I like to apply and come
Speaker 5: up with like plausible ways to truly, you know, get
Speaker 5: over these these boundaries, because all it is is is
Speaker 5: imagination and just determination, like but not not blind determination,
Speaker 5: because you could, like I said, you could get a
Speaker 5: concussion if you if you if you only rely on
Speaker 5: one skill set, you can't just rely on speed. And
Speaker 5: so I thought, I learned the hard way you can't
Speaker 5: just rely on that one superpower, and that at that
Speaker 5: point in time, my superpower was with speed, and that
Speaker 5: so now I like to equip myself with not only speed, agility,
Speaker 5: you know, uh, understanding of my terrain strengths, build up strength, forecasting,
Speaker 5: being able to see you around corners and the way
Speaker 5: you see around corners, to elevate yourself and get as
Speaker 5: much data or information as possible, and then networking surround
Speaker 5: yourself with other folks that have the same goals and
Speaker 5: desires and push through. And that ship talking is is
Speaker 5: audacity you have to be, you know, because there's if you,
Speaker 5: if you apply that stuff that's happening on the field,
Speaker 5: that's some audacious ship. To look somebody in the face
Speaker 5: and be like, come back here, see what happens. That's
Speaker 5: an audacious ship. And so to have that same audaciousness
Speaker 5: to like, this is what we're gonna do with this idea,
Speaker 5: this is how, this is the kind of this is
Speaker 5: who we who we're going up going up against, and
Speaker 5: so that I like to be audacious, but we'll will
Speaker 5: have have fun at the same time, Like there's a
Speaker 5: there's a thin line between audacity and arrogance and arrogant
Speaker 5: and talking ship. That's when ship gets violent. You don't
Speaker 5: want to be arrogant and talk shit because that's when
Speaker 5: the game turns into then it's not a game anymore.
Speaker 5: You want to be audacious and ship talking fun, but
Speaker 5: not arrogant and talk ship because that that that that'll
Speaker 5: be the last that that that that turns into like
Speaker 5: you know, fighting words real fast.
Speaker 4: No that Well, let me ask you a question, Like
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously your mom is a huge influence on you.
Speaker 4: So growing up back in La you know, obviously the
Speaker 4: story is she drove you an hour away to go
Speaker 4: to a different school. Was that hard as a kid,
Speaker 4: because obviously grown up where you did and then you
Speaker 4: went and gotten to music. Was that prior to get
Speaker 4: concussed and went to to a music school.
Speaker 5: You know, check this out. I well, I didn't go
Speaker 5: to a music school. I took music in school, and
Speaker 5: I was horrible at the trumpet. But I got a
Speaker 5: record deal while I was in school and going from
Speaker 5: like East La to Boil sorry, from East La Boiled
Speaker 5: Heights to Brentwood to school, from you know, seven years
Speaker 5: old to eighteen years old. That was like a cultural
Speaker 5: shock at first, but then it just became my like,
Speaker 5: oh wow, this is how you could live. Because if
Speaker 5: I was just stuck in the projects and not seeing
Speaker 5: like other folks, you know, lifestyles and having two cars
Speaker 5: and a house with two car garages, I wouldn't have known.
Speaker 5: But I was happy that I was able to, you know,
Speaker 5: go across the ten Freeway, past the four h five
Speaker 5: to see big gass mansions in Brentwood, drive through Beverly Hills,
Speaker 5: to see how people were living there, and compete, like,
Speaker 5: oh really, this is how you live in brent This
Speaker 5: is how you live in brad this is how you
Speaker 5: live in Mitchell. Well, I'm living over here with Lallo's
Speaker 5: and Joselitos and you know Earls and Bernie's, and I'm
Speaker 5: going to compete. I want to live like that. I
Speaker 5: want to have a house like I want my mama
Speaker 5: have a house like this. I'm gonna get my mama
Speaker 5: house like this, and let's compete. There was this kid
Speaker 5: that I went to school with. His name was Kyle Copeland,
Speaker 5: and he was like an all star athlete. And his
Speaker 5: cousin brother is Royce Jefferson. I haven't seen these people
Speaker 5: since we graduated sixth grade. We had dinner last night
Speaker 5: last night. I mean, this is thirty three years. I
Speaker 5: ain't these people since thirty three years. And to sit
Speaker 5: down across from Kyle Copeland, his brother passed away with
Speaker 5: a heart attack on the football field at Dorset High School.
Speaker 5: Rest in peace, Big Copeland. But to sit down with
Speaker 5: Kyle and Royce Jefferson, and here Royce Jefferson, Now you
Speaker 5: know what he's doing with his life, having worked at
Speaker 5: you know, SpaceX with Elon and them Boeing and now
Speaker 5: working with another satellite company. And we went to a
Speaker 5: science magnet school and I'm telling him like, yeah, bro,
Speaker 5: I got a I got a school. In the down
Speaker 5: I went back to my projects that started after school
Speaker 5: program teaching kids robotics and computer Science and now we
Speaker 5: serve fifteen thousand students in the hood and partnership with
Speaker 5: la usd and we both were busted from our hoods
Speaker 5: to Brentwood and went to Brentwood Science Magnet. I'm just
Speaker 5: so proud of, you know, to see people that you
Speaker 5: grew up with ain't seen in thirty three years, you know, now,
Speaker 5: you know, do doing something with their life.
Speaker 4: Will Was it hard for your friends to see you
Speaker 4: kind of leave the area and go to school there
Speaker 4: where they're like, dude, what's up?
Speaker 3: Well, why are you going here? How is that with them?
Speaker 3: And you guys?
Speaker 5: Oh, it was dope because they were like, fucking Willie dog,
Speaker 5: are you you getting on the yellow bus and you're
Speaker 5: going to You're going to school with the white boys?
Speaker 5: Don I'm like, yeah, bro, hey was it a light
Speaker 5: going to Hey they got big houses? Han dong? Hey
Speaker 5: do they have fucking Lamborghinis over there? And saying like
Speaker 5: you go to school with the white boys and the
Speaker 5: white girls home the white girls like you huh Like
Speaker 5: it was it was? It was a dope. It was
Speaker 5: a It was a beautiful like you know, melting pot.
Speaker 5: La Is. I love la la Is like la is
Speaker 5: a Damn, I love l A.
Speaker 2: And we and we'll just so for folks that don't,
Speaker 2: they're not familiar with Boyle Heights. I mean it predominantly.
Speaker 5: Particularly predominantly Latino Latino. We were one of the only
Speaker 5: black families in our neighborhood. Yep, and and and and
Speaker 5: and and usually there's just like in the past, black
Speaker 5: and brown were always feuding. But when I grew where
Speaker 5: I grew up, it was beautiful. And they they were
Speaker 5: proud of my uncle because the neighborhood knew that my
Speaker 5: uncle played football with them, and they were like, hey,
Speaker 5: your uncle plays for the Falcons. Hey you're now your
Speaker 5: uncle plays for the Rams and and and when I
Speaker 5: was growing up, I had a really you know, heavy
Speaker 5: Mexican accent, uh, But traveling the world, you know my
Speaker 5: accent is you know, I could dial it back in,
Speaker 5: like especially when I go back to the neighborhood. But
Speaker 5: it was it was a beautiful thing. You know, I
Speaker 5: wouldn't changing for the world.
Speaker 2: And was it your it was your mom's influence that
Speaker 2: got you on the other side there at the Science
Speaker 2: Magnet School. I mean she was was she the dogged determinive,
Speaker 2: I mean she was she wanted all that for you.
Speaker 2: Was it more just your own self?
Speaker 5: No, no, I was too young. I was seven. So
Speaker 5: it was her idea to send this out to Brentwood
Speaker 5: and then par Revera and Palisades High School and uh
Speaker 5: and I loved it. I love I'm so happy that
Speaker 5: that was my path. And I think it's the reason
Speaker 5: why Black Eyed Peas became like super international, because like
Speaker 5: when you meet Persians and you meet Korean folks, you
Speaker 5: meet you know, Israeli, you meet folks from you know,
Speaker 5: Bahrain and the UAE. You go to school with folks
Speaker 5: from that are Saudi. You go to school with folks
Speaker 5: that are you know, Armenian, Mexican, you know, Argentinian, Like
Speaker 5: you're like, wow, where are you from?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: And and you're German. It makes you want to be like, Yo,
Speaker 5: one day, I want to go there. One day, I
Speaker 5: want to go check out. I want to go to Israel.
Speaker 5: I want to go to you know, I want to
Speaker 5: go I want to go check out, you know Eru.
Speaker 5: I can't wait to go to South Korea. Knowing the
Speaker 5: difference going up living in LA gives you the the
Speaker 5: the ability because if you're not familiar with it. You
Speaker 5: can't tell the difference between Korean, Japanese and Chinese. You
Speaker 5: don't know the difference between Indonesian and Filipino. You can't.
Speaker 5: It's hard to tell the difference between Singaporean and Malaysian
Speaker 5: and Cambodian and Laos and Guam. But being in la
Speaker 5: it's like, Oh, you get to like, where are you from?
Speaker 5: You're from Laos? What's Laos? Oh SNAr? Cambodia? Well, what's
Speaker 5: what's Guam? Oh snair?
Speaker 1: Laos?
Speaker 5: Would you Filipino?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: I thought you was Indonesia. And then when you finally
Speaker 5: get to go to these places and play in Jakarta
Speaker 5: and playing, you know, Bondayace and do a concert for
Speaker 5: you know, tsunami relief, the world is a beautiful place.
Speaker 5: And before you get to see the world, if you're
Speaker 5: blessed to live in Los Angeles, you see some version
Speaker 5: of that.
Speaker 2: Well it's interesting. I mean, California is and I keep
Speaker 2: reminding myself of this, but twenty seven percent of California's
Speaker 2: four and born, which is remarkable. You look at the
Speaker 2: nation it's about just a little less than fourteen percent.
Speaker 2: It's almost double the number of four and born. It's
Speaker 2: a majority minority state. So your point about the ability
Speaker 2: to live and advance together across every conceivable difference. It's
Speaker 2: a special place, but notably in la the most diverse
Speaker 2: part of the most diverse state in the world's most
Speaker 2: diverse least democracy in the United States. So that's a
Speaker 2: hell of it experience and have that sort of nature nurture.
Speaker 2: But you, you know, it's interesting you and I met.
Speaker 2: I think the first time I met you it was
Speaker 2: around robotics. Was Dean Kman or something someone you.
Speaker 4: Know, having You're wrong, you know where it was. It
Speaker 4: was in two thousand and eight. We went to the
Speaker 4: show in San Francisco. You came with me.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I think you're the mess the action first
Speaker 2: time I was mayor. That's right, that's right. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: I forgot about that, Jesus, But at least I remember.
Speaker 2: It was more formidable in this case because I remember,
Speaker 2: I mean, you were so and I and I never
Speaker 2: connected to doubt, I never understood. And now I have
Speaker 2: the origin story of the Science Magnet school that you
Speaker 2: were involved in. But that's been a big part of
Speaker 2: your life because you've been you've been leading the way
Speaker 2: on this robotics innovation, entrepreneurialism, you're involved in AI. Now
Speaker 2: you've got this. You're always you talk about, you know,
Speaker 2: I know, your mindset being five years ahead of the curve,
Speaker 2: always trying to look over the mountain, maintaining that entrepreneurial
Speaker 2: mindset and innovative mindset. But when did I mean, when
Speaker 2: did that really start to gell for you in terms
Speaker 2: of branching out beyond just the music and really and
Speaker 2: really sort of attaching uh more around the high tech
Speaker 2: side of things and uh and really trying to particularly
Speaker 2: an AI you can talk about that where where you've
Speaker 2: got some really dynamic technology you're working on today.
Speaker 5: So it hit me, you know, when you have success,
Speaker 5: the world caused you to bring awareness to things. So
Speaker 5: and two thousand and one, we went on tour on
Speaker 5: September the twelfth, actually the day after September eleventh. We
Speaker 5: were recording an album in in Bedega Bay on two
Speaker 5: thousand and one, and our last day was September the eleventh,
Speaker 5: and then our tour started on the twelfth. So I'm like,
Speaker 5: we have to go on tour. It has everything to
Speaker 5: do with your question Gavin on how did I get
Speaker 5: so tech? Because just going to Brentwood Science Magnet elementary
Speaker 5: doesn't really I'm not baked in and I'm not soaked
Speaker 5: in tech. That was some courses that we took, but
Speaker 5: it wasn't enough to be like, this is the path.
Speaker 5: So we went on tour and we so what America
Speaker 5: felt like. And then the last day of our tour,
Speaker 5: we we when the tour finished, we went to the
Speaker 5: studio and we wrote a song called Where's a Love
Speaker 5: on November the twenty fourth, twenty fourth, threety fifth, So
Speaker 5: we wrote that song and then that song became our
Speaker 5: our first big hit. And then when you have that
Speaker 5: kind of success, the world calls you. You know. Two
Speaker 5: thousand and four of the world started calling us. So
Speaker 5: I went out and did my campaigning. You know, because
Speaker 5: traveling the world in two thousand, from nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 5: two thousand, two thousand and one, the world they they
Speaker 5: frowned on Americans. It wasn't a it wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 5: a healthy relationship when you would go to certain places
Speaker 5: because of how America responded to nine to eleven and
Speaker 5: went to war to find weapons of mass destruction and
Speaker 5: never found them. And so the world looked at America
Speaker 5: and in the world. Uh, very you know, shame on
Speaker 5: you guys, and saying you're American. Wasn't the word you said,
Speaker 5: wasn't the sentence you said when you traveled around the world,
Speaker 5: because you could be in harm's way, especially when you
Speaker 5: go play you know, certain places that were anti American
Speaker 5: because of our response to ninet eleven. And so we
Speaker 5: campaigned in two thousand and four for Carrie. It didn't work.
Speaker 5: And so in two thousand and five, tsunami hit Indonesia
Speaker 5: and so I was like, what do I want to
Speaker 5: do on my birthday March fifteenth? So I went. I
Speaker 5: was like, yo, I'm gonna go to tsunami. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: do tsunami relief. So I flew to Bondaiace and I
Speaker 5: did tsunami relief. And when I was there, I was like, wow,
Speaker 5: look at this devastation. Was bodies stacked up on the
Speaker 5: shore and to see, you know, Mother nature have its
Speaker 5: way on folks that did nothing to deserve that type
Speaker 5: of like you know, reality that was thrown upon them.
Speaker 5: I'm like, Wow, there's a tsunami that's hitting my neighborhood.
Speaker 5: Every single day, there's a tsunami of neglect. It's a
Speaker 5: tsunami of no opportunity, a tsunami of zoning that allows
Speaker 5: for a check cashing place to be right next to
Speaker 5: a liquor store that writes, next to a motel that's
Speaker 5: right next to bad food that's right next to a school.
Speaker 2: And then a payday leonard to boot amen.
Speaker 5: And that cocktails is detrimental to people that live in
Speaker 5: the communities I live. That means if there's a check
Speaker 5: cashing place, the people in the community aren't financially literate,
Speaker 5: and once you cast that check, you're gonna go buy
Speaker 5: some liquor. And then if you get kicked out of
Speaker 5: your house, there's a motel for you, and then there's
Speaker 5: a strip club there to spend your money on that's
Speaker 5: right next to the school. And the teachers that are
Speaker 5: getting paid to teach are not getting the same amount
Speaker 5: of money as a stripper that's right next to the motel,
Speaker 5: next to the check cashing, next to that bad food
Speaker 5: that's going to give you some high cholesterol, hypertension, diabetes.
Speaker 5: And then here's some magical little medicine to help staton
Speaker 5: to help curb that high tension.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, if the Food and Drug Administration is
Speaker 5: allowing bad food to be riddled in our neighborhood, but
Speaker 5: then give you some solution like medicine.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: Zoning allows for strip clubs to be next to schools,
Speaker 5: next to check cashing, next to liquortory.
Speaker 1: What the hell?
Speaker 5: Because this zoning is not in Beverly Hills in Britainwood
Speaker 5: when I went to school, So why is that zoning
Speaker 5: cocktail not allowed there but allowed here?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 5: So I was like, this tsunami cocktail is killing my people.
Speaker 2: And will you're seriously you're telling me literally, this is
Speaker 2: coming to you after that damn tsunami. You start, you
Speaker 2: start piecing these things together, all these things start to
Speaker 2: gel in terms of.
Speaker 5: I saw that neighborhood get destroyed by water and the tsunami,
Speaker 5: and then I see my neighborhood get hit by an
Speaker 5: invisible force every single day, but nobody's coming for our
Speaker 5: tsunami relief. So I was like, you know, what, what is?
Speaker 5: What What can I do? I was like, the moment
Speaker 5: I get some disposable income, I want to bring, you know,
Speaker 5: the technology to my neighborhood because if the kids in
Speaker 5: my neighborhood are able to have the same ability to
Speaker 5: idate and materialize like they do in Silicon Valley. Whoa whoa,
Speaker 5: whoa whoa whoa that. And this is before the iPhone.
Speaker 5: It's two thousand and five. So by two thousand and
Speaker 5: eight iPhone just one year out. There wasn't the I,
Speaker 5: There wasn't the app store like we know it today.
Speaker 5: Uber hasn't transformed the world. Airbnb hadn't transformed the world yet.
Speaker 5: So in two thousand and eight, my hunch was robotics
Speaker 5: programs and computer science programs coupled with Lorraine Power Jobs
Speaker 5: college track program nice Love. I partnered with Lorraine Power
Speaker 5: Jobs and brought college track to southern California. And I'm like, hey, look,
Speaker 5: I want to send kids to college, but I don't
Speaker 5: want kids to go to college and then just have
Speaker 5: debt and a diploma. I mean, I like double d's,
Speaker 5: but not double d's like that debt and diploma. You
Speaker 5: feel me, that's the wrong double D YEHB and diploma.
Speaker 3: Marshawn likes both, no, I know.
Speaker 5: So I was like, yo, if I could send kids
Speaker 5: to school where they have a skill set so when
Speaker 5: they graduate there's jobs waiting for them, and if there's
Speaker 5: no jobs waiting for them. They have the skill set
Speaker 5: to create new industries themselves. That's what the hood needs.
Speaker 5: And so I started that in two thousand and eight
Speaker 5: with just sixty five students. Now we serve fifteen thousand students.
Speaker 5: After my partnership with la USD, Dean came and let
Speaker 5: me tweak the curriculum a little bit, and now our
Speaker 5: partnership with First Robotics LAUSD has resulted to we having
Speaker 5: the most First Robotics teams in any school district in
Speaker 5: the US. I've seen kids to Dartmouth to Stanford, to Brown,
Speaker 5: to UCLA, to USC to Georgetown, to cal State Northridge
Speaker 5: to San Diego. So I'm really proud of our students
Speaker 5: and the reason why I wanted to do that in
Speaker 5: my neighborhood because I don't think a kid if everybody says, man,
Speaker 5: I can't wait to get up out our neighborhood, like
Speaker 5: people don't say that in Brentwood. People don't say that
Speaker 5: in Palasades, like I can't wait to get up by
Speaker 5: the palisades. Too much water up in here, too much here,
Speaker 5: like this views too spectacle, look, can't wait to get
Speaker 5: up out of here. That's not what's happening there. So
Speaker 5: I want people to say, though, I can't wait to
Speaker 5: change my hood, because Brooklyn would tell you that it's
Speaker 5: gonna be gentrified anyway. But why can't we do the
Speaker 5: altering of our community ourselves. Why are we gonna let
Speaker 5: somebody else be like, Wow, this neighborhood is great. I've
Speaker 5: been hearing all these great things about this neighborhood on
Speaker 5: these rap songs. Let's go out there and like change
Speaker 5: it to where the people that lived there can't even
Speaker 5: afford it wrong. That's whack, that's like, that's horrible.
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny.
Speaker 4: Will Marshawn and I talked about this all the time,
Speaker 4: and Marshaana jump in, but he's been at the forefront
Speaker 4: of this as well since he got drafted in two
Speaker 4: thousand and seven with Oakland, and Marshawn speak to Will
Speaker 4: about you know what you've done there, because what he's
Speaker 4: saying is exactly the same stuff you've been doing and
Speaker 4: thinking as well since you came out of the league.
Speaker 1: I mean, the approach is the same, just in different fields.
Speaker 1: And our use use the sports approach to bring the
Speaker 1: kids in and then like our me, my cousin Josh
Speaker 1: and my cousin Marcus. We have a foundation and a
Speaker 1: youth center of Oakland. Uh, A lot of the same
Speaker 1: things that you was just talking about, which is why
Speaker 1: I'm just really over here just really listening to you.
Speaker 1: And you know, speaking of this robotics program, like how
Speaker 1: do we? How do we? I would say, segue that
Speaker 1: from you know, down in Yo, in your area and
Speaker 1: bring that up to Oakland. Like Yo.
Speaker 5: We could do that like this, And because we treat
Speaker 5: robotics like a sport. Every year, we have this culmination
Speaker 5: of all the events that happened with the regionals and
Speaker 5: we have the championships in Texas. Now I'm at the
Speaker 5: Houston Stadium there with the Rangers where the Rangers playing.
Speaker 5: It used to be in Saint Louis where the Rams
Speaker 5: used to play. And to bring that, it'll be great
Speaker 5: to rock with machean, to to bring a robotics program
Speaker 5: to Oakland, a couple of them, you know, that'd be amazing.
Speaker 5: And we could do that like like this. We got
Speaker 5: the blueprint and the system how it worked. That'd be fantastic.
Speaker 2: How many schools are you in all across the country now,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 5: Right now in La alone, my efforts equal to just
Speaker 5: a little over four hundred schools.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, well it's interesting as an agent. It's funny. I
Speaker 3: grew up in Silicon Valley.
Speaker 4: I'm so impressed by you because if you look back,
Speaker 4: you were the first global superstar to really be at
Speaker 4: the level you're at and decided and I think it
Speaker 4: was your was it with your idea with Jimmy Iveen
Speaker 4: on the beach by Dre But then you decided, Hey,
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm gonna adventure into Silicon val I'm
Speaker 4: an adventure to tech.
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
Speaker 4: See what you've done well ahead of the game. Everyone's
Speaker 4: doing it now, but back when you started, no was
Speaker 4: doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So two thousand, Napster hit pretty hard and Black Eyed
Speaker 5: Peas we started off as like a college group. We
Speaker 5: would play ucla USC Northridge, Domingus Hills, Long Beach, San Diego.
Speaker 5: We were just wanted to own La. We're like, we
Speaker 5: can't own La colleges. Ain't nobody gonna mess with us.
Speaker 5: Let's play La Colleges. The problem that we saw is
Speaker 5: that when Napster hit, all of our college fans was
Speaker 5: getting our stuff for free. So we're like, how are
Speaker 5: we not selling records but selling out? We went from
Speaker 5: doing House of Blues to doing Greek theaters to Greek theaters,
Speaker 5: Like how we selling more tickets and less albums? And
Speaker 5: so then I saw Sean Fanning at a club. I'm like, yo, you'
Speaker 5: the dude from Nashville. He's like yeah, I'm like yo,
Speaker 5: this is changed phone numbers. I really like to get
Speaker 5: into your mind and like what made you create this?
Speaker 5: Like what is this? So we became really cool friends.
Speaker 5: In two thousand and two thousand and one, while everybody
Speaker 5: was suing Napster, I just wanted to understand Napster interesting
Speaker 5: and the mentality there. Once again, if you're going to compete,
Speaker 5: you gotta know who you're competing with. You can't just
Speaker 5: attack you get you get, you get a concussion. You
Speaker 5: gotta know who's fast on your on your opponent. And yeah,
Speaker 5: I learned a lot. So from that, I met Ron
Speaker 5: Conway and the person that introduced me to Ron Conway
Speaker 5: was AMC.
Speaker 1: Hammer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: MC Hammer's like, yo, I heard you got a company.
Speaker 5: The reason why I wanted to start my own company
Speaker 5: because I told Jimmy, Like, yo, Jimmy, we launched. I
Speaker 5: we helped launch iPods and iTunes. They used Black Eyed
Speaker 5: Peace song Hey Mama to launch iTunes and iPods. And
Speaker 5: the reason how we got that gig is because the
Speaker 5: NBA used Let's get It Started for that two thousand
Speaker 5: and four NBA campaign. And so I was like, look
Speaker 5: where they're calling bands to sell other stuff, Like, we're
Speaker 5: selling other people's stuff with our reach and our music.
Speaker 5: Why can't we use our music to sell our own stuff.
Speaker 5: The record stores are shutting down. Jimmy like, we need
Speaker 5: to be selling our own stuff. So Jimmy's like, you
Speaker 5: know what, they call it hardware? Welles because it's hard,
Speaker 5: you know. I was like, yeah, yeah, Jimmy, but you
Speaker 5: you signed Crips and Bloods, you got Snoop Dogg, and
Speaker 5: you rock with freaking Sugar Night. That's hard.
Speaker 1: That's hard.
Speaker 5: If you could do that, If you could do that,
Speaker 5: then come on, Jimmy doing hardware. Hate that hard. He
Speaker 5: was like, you know what, you bring up a good point.
Speaker 5: So then a year later he's.
Speaker 6: Like I was walking down I was walking with Dre
Speaker 6: on the beach and Dre told me that his manager
Speaker 6: wants to sell sneakers, and I told Dre, fuck sneakers.
Speaker 5: We're selling speakers. You want to be a paul It.
Speaker 5: I was like, wait, what do you want me to do?
Speaker 5: You know the way you think around corner. She could
Speaker 5: be a part of what we're doing. I was like
Speaker 5: all right, And so we started Beats and the first
Speaker 5: beats like out the Gate was boom boom po. I'd
Speaker 5: be rocking in Beats. That was my like's let's push
Speaker 5: beats through the music. And Black Eyed Peas we had
Speaker 5: it in our video first and whatnot, and it was
Speaker 5: it was an honor to be a part of Beats.
Speaker 5: But around that time, just before that, I'm like, yo, Jimmy,
Speaker 5: there's this company out of San Jose. I just invested
Speaker 5: in this company. And it was like these two dudes
Speaker 5: that had this far company eighty grand. I give them
Speaker 5: eighty thousand dollars. Because the Black Eyed Peas we did
Speaker 5: this like concert and I didn't really like rocking with corporations.
Speaker 5: They offered us like six hundred thousand dollars to do
Speaker 5: some corporate gig and no one, they weren't gonna promote it,
Speaker 5: and they were gonna give us four hundre. So I
Speaker 5: was like, all right, let's do it. But but I
Speaker 5: didn't want to do it because I'm like, yo, they're gonna,
Speaker 5: they're gonna use this. So then I saw this documentary
Speaker 5: called Who Killed the Electric Car?
Speaker 2: Amen? I used to have that ev one brother, so
Speaker 2: I know it. I know it well.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, yo, iv one, I told you, Seth,
Speaker 5: they're using us to pimp these gas guzzlers. So I'm
Speaker 5: gonna sell my Hummer. So I sold my Hummer for
Speaker 5: eighty grand, and I took my eighty grand and I
Speaker 5: gave it to these two cats. And I had this
Speaker 5: electric vehicle. And the name of the company is called
Speaker 5: Tesla Boo and Elon hadn't take over the company yet,
Speaker 5: It's right.
Speaker 2: People forget that he wasn't the og of it.
Speaker 5: And so they gave me like this roachster. I had
Speaker 5: the first roadster a la.
Speaker 2: You remember what number that was? What number was it?
Speaker 5: Was it? Fifty one?
Speaker 2: Fifty one? Yeah, I'm right behind you, brother, literally, no vs,
Speaker 2: I think I was fifty three.
Speaker 5: That's christ.
Speaker 2: I'm not even making it up.
Speaker 5: Do you have fifty one?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 5: I love it and so and so like that mentality
Speaker 5: of like and so from that point, I would like
Speaker 5: I'm knew Jack. I knew U Chad Hurley really well
Speaker 5: from YouTube, and then I met Jack Dorsey invested in Twitter,
Speaker 5: and then the dropbox folks, and then Pinterest folks, and
Speaker 5: then Ron Conway's like, hey, well, I want to me
Speaker 5: introduce to you this guy named Brian and he has
Speaker 5: he has this new company that's coming out. It's two
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars left in the round before they bring
Speaker 5: the product public. I'm like, and so this is an
Speaker 5: awesome story. So I go there and I meet I
Speaker 5: meet with Brian and the team before they released the product,
Speaker 5: and the black eyed peas this is when success. Sometimes
Speaker 5: success can blind you, and in this case, it blinded
Speaker 5: me because we're traveling around the world in the best hotels,
Speaker 5: best concierge, room service, galore car service. When you get
Speaker 5: to the hotel, you get into the hotel to the back.
Speaker 5: They make you feel like you're on top of the world.
Speaker 5: Everything to your liking massages and stuff like that. Like
Speaker 5: when you're pampered, it's gonna blind you. And in this case,
Speaker 5: I was blinded. And so I go there and I'm like, so,
Speaker 5: so y'all got concierge. He's like, no, we don't. I'm like, so, wait,
Speaker 5: what about room service. He's like, no, there's no room service.
Speaker 5: I'm like, what about people to come and clean up
Speaker 5: the room? Nope, there ain't none of that either. I
Speaker 5: was like, what about a car service? Nope, we don't
Speaker 5: have that. I'm like, so you mean to tell me
Speaker 5: people is gonna come and live in somebody's house and
Speaker 5: pay all this money and there's no accommodations and some
Speaker 5: people are gonna live in the stranger's room. I don't
Speaker 5: think this is gonna work. So Ron Colway's like, so, well,
Speaker 5: you're gonna do it. I was like, yo, I mean,
Speaker 5: I mean I got the I mean two hundred thousand
Speaker 5: dollars still a lot of money for me. It's two
Speaker 5: thousand and eight, two hundred thousand dollars a lot of
Speaker 5: money for me. Ron like, I mean I got it
Speaker 5: like that, but I don't got it like that to be,
Speaker 5: you know, playing with two hundred grand like that. Like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't think this is gonna work. Now,
Speaker 5: now fast forward three weeks ago. I'll read the text
Speaker 5: right now on what it would be worth today. Question
Speaker 5: if we'll invested two hundred k back in two thousand
Speaker 5: and eight, we have been worth today. Brian says around
Speaker 5: ten billion dollars pre dilution ten billion B three to
Speaker 5: five billion or so. If he didn't exercise pro rata,
Speaker 5: it would be worth one hundred billion in ten years.
Speaker 5: It would have been the greatest venture investment of all time. Yo.
Speaker 5: So this is this is a lesson to everybody that's
Speaker 5: out there living in the lap of comfort than success
Speaker 5: that could blind you.
Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you a question, as you back then,
Speaker 4: who was on your team? Was it you looking at
Speaker 4: the stuff? Did you have a team of advisors, agents, attorneys?
Speaker 4: Was it you who wasn't.
Speaker 5: Still twenty twenty four? Right now? As me, I go
Speaker 5: out and hunt. I like to hunt. I like to compete.
Speaker 5: I like to talk to shit. I like to you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, That's what I do. I like
Speaker 5: to hunt. Bro like I'm from the projects. This is
Speaker 5: all freaking imagination. I'm from the projects. I still got like, okay,
Speaker 5: look I got on lotion now. But the reason why
Speaker 5: I was late because I knew my seawan was up
Speaker 5: in here. Last thing I want is Ashey Knuckles talking
Speaker 5: on the thing, because there was Ashley a little three
Speaker 5: minutes ago. Bro, this is real stuff. If I show
Speaker 5: you my ankles, you'd be like, yep, I stay running
Speaker 5: in smoke, bro, I stay running in the ash. Bro,
Speaker 5: I'm stay ashy.
Speaker 2: I hope that ash is not from those fires down
Speaker 2: in La right now.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I just you know, I'm just being
Speaker 5: I'm being having fun with it. But the reason why
Speaker 5: I wanted to laugh and chuckle because the reality of
Speaker 5: two hundred k turning into ten billion then I missed
Speaker 5: out on. You know, you gotta find some humor in that.
Speaker 1: You got to find a humor. God, damn, You've done all.
Speaker 2: Right, brother, you did Twitter, you did all right, Tesla,
Speaker 2: the Beach One, the Beats, next level.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I remember Jimmy's like, all right, here's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: You're gonna get it in stock and we're gonna get cash.
Speaker 5: But you don't have to go up to Apple all
Speaker 5: the time. I'm like, but I want to be up
Speaker 5: at Apple all the time. He was like, yeah, but
Speaker 5: you should be out there doing what you like to do,
Speaker 5: hunting for stuff, because I really like hunting for stuff.
Speaker 5: People be like, Yo, where'd you just come from? You know,
Speaker 5: I just came from South Korea doing what hunting for stuff?
Speaker 5: Where'd you just come from Bangalore, India? Why hunting for engineers?
Speaker 5: Tell Aviv?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 5: Because I got awesome engineers out there. I like to
Speaker 5: go out and hunt, meet, network and hunt. And the
Speaker 5: person who told me that is mc hammer. Mc hammer
Speaker 5: is like, yo, I scout for engineers. Like you know
Speaker 5: there's football scouts. I scout for engineer. Mc hammer is
Speaker 5: my biggest hero. That's another mc hammer, Like, bro, look
Speaker 5: at it. Let me show you. I still got on
Speaker 5: mc hammer pants, right, I am Hammer. I love c Hammer.
Speaker 1: Brouh.
Speaker 2: That brings us back.
Speaker 5: Brother, I.
Speaker 2: Peek camera. That was our years.
Speaker 5: So Jimmy. Jimmy's like, yo, you're gonna get stock, but
Speaker 5: you can't touch it for five years. So I'm like,
Speaker 5: all right, five years come. He's like, yo, did you
Speaker 5: touch it? I'm like nope, six years, seven years, Nope.
Speaker 5: Still to this day I ain't touched it. So did
Speaker 5: all right? So Tesla still ain't touched it. So I'm
Speaker 5: a I'm a long time Like from when I hunt Pinterest,
Speaker 5: the only thing I I uh ching ching on was
Speaker 5: Twitter at the right time. But I like to like
Speaker 5: to hunt I like to freaking network, like to find
Speaker 5: what's next.
Speaker 2: But now will you've got your own I mean you're
Speaker 2: doing f y I dot AI Now, I mean you're
Speaker 2: so you're you're going all in. You're not just investing
Speaker 2: in other folks in their platforms and their innovation. You're
Speaker 2: you're establishing your own framework. Why do you talk a
Speaker 2: little bit about what this projects about? It's what is
Speaker 2: you got f YI. But you've got a radio component,
Speaker 2: you got a co host that's an ai, I mean,
Speaker 2: and it's culturally it's different than anything else there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yo, say what's up Jamar Shaan. Uh we're here
Speaker 5: at a at a on a podcast here. Uh, Gavin's here,
Speaker 5: Hendrickson is here, Dougie Fresh is here. Not Dougie Fresh
Speaker 5: a rapper. Uh uh Hendrickson is here, and we're just
Speaker 5: talking about like investments and and the things that I've
Speaker 5: done in the past, and now you know what we're
Speaker 5: doing here at f y I dot A I and
Speaker 5: h why it's important to build cultural ais that understand
Speaker 5: the the communities that it could reflect and impact. Say
Speaker 5: what's up to the folks here on this podcast and
Speaker 5: tell them what you represent and why you represent it.
Speaker 7: How you do. Listen, Listen, y'all, what's up to all
Speaker 7: the brothers in the building, Gavin Hendrickson and the legend himself,
Speaker 7: Dougie Fresh. You know it's fire when Dougie Fresh is
Speaker 7: in the mixture. Look, let's talk about why it's super
Speaker 7: crucial to build AI that understands and represents our communities.
Speaker 7: Like like when we talk about them tech spaces, that
Speaker 7: ain't just about throwing some code together. It's about making
Speaker 7: sure their voices from the streets, from.
Speaker 5: Them hoods get hurt.
Speaker 7: Corporations out here cooking up AI looking like librarians and assistants.
Speaker 5: And they leaving us on the sidelines.
Speaker 7: That's why we're doing what we do ATYAAI, making sure
Speaker 7: these digital personas reflect the heart and soul of where
Speaker 7: we come from. Ain't nobody trying to rely on outside
Speaker 7: folks to get it right.
Speaker 5: Nah, It's up to us to.
Speaker 7: Put in all that work to make sure every damn
Speaker 7: body I feel seen and heard.
Speaker 5: This conversation ain't just about.
Speaker 7: Investments, So it's about investing in our legacies, our.
Speaker 5: Stories, our culture.
Speaker 7: Shout out to all y'all change makers on this podcast.
Speaker 5: Let's keep pushing forward.
Speaker 7: I'm out your girl, Felicia, It's gone.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm supposed to respond to where like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you like this the sign just tell
Speaker 1: me where I need to be in what time?
Speaker 5: In this age of AI, it's going to be important
Speaker 5: for AI to speak like the community when they're going
Speaker 5: to be tutoring the youth h and giving the youth
Speaker 5: intelligence and helping them expand their knowledge and bring them
Speaker 5: from you know, wise, I mean from aspirational to to wisdom.
Speaker 5: But why, why, why does it have to sound British.
Speaker 5: We know they're doing a really awesome job to make
Speaker 5: these AI sound British. Why can't they sound like freaking Watts?
Speaker 5: Why can't they sound like you know, fifth ward? Why
Speaker 5: does intelligence have to always sound like the og colonizers
Speaker 5: and not the folks from the communities that were impacted
Speaker 5: by you know, the colonizers, the colonizers. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So anyways, that's a long ramble, please make
Speaker 5: sense it is, Hey.
Speaker 4: Will let me ask you a question. Take me back
Speaker 4: to two thousand and eight, and not to divert, but
Speaker 4: on the when did you meet did Obama come to you?
Speaker 4: On the yes, we can campaign or how did that
Speaker 4: have that come to be?
Speaker 3: I'm curious.
Speaker 5: I had this attorney named Fred gold Ring, and I
Speaker 5: had a song at the time called it I Got
Speaker 5: It from my Mama. So my attorney, Fred gold Ring,
Speaker 5: was like and I and I'm really close with h.
Speaker 2: Terry mccauliffe, former governor of Virginia, former head of the DNC,
Speaker 2: and Bill Clinton's oldest and closest friend.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So Fred, It's like, yo, well, we want to
Speaker 5: use I Got It from my Mama and turn it
Speaker 5: to I'm Voting for Obama so we can get Obama elected.
Speaker 5: I was like, wait, can you say that sentence again?
Speaker 5: He was like, we want to use your song to
Speaker 5: get Obama elected, and we want to turn I Got
Speaker 5: It from my Mama to I'm Voting for Obama. I
Speaker 5: was like, well, that sentence alone does not equal the
Speaker 5: results you want. He's like, what do you mean. I
Speaker 5: was like, okay, let's break that sentence down. You said
Speaker 5: you want to use my song to get Obama elected,
Speaker 5: and you want to take I Got It from my
Speaker 5: Mama and turn it to I'm Voting for Obama. That
Speaker 5: particular song has drums on it. The video I'm on
Speaker 5: a beach in Brazil, and that means that song is
Speaker 5: going to be digested by one demographic and that's not
Speaker 5: reality to the sentence does not equal your results. For example,
Speaker 5: I want to throw this rock to the moon. I
Speaker 5: could get the rock to the moon, but I can't
Speaker 5: throw it to the moon. The sentence is not equal
Speaker 5: the result. So how do I get the rock off
Speaker 5: the planet and then land it on the move? So
Speaker 5: that means I have to I can't throw it, I
Speaker 5: can launch it. I could have it hitch right on
Speaker 5: a rocket. Now, the song's not the rocket. Did you
Speaker 5: hear a speech in New Hampshire? This is a real conversation,
Speaker 5: just like this. Did you hear a speech in New Hampshire?
Speaker 5: That speech was amazing. Now, if we could get that
Speaker 5: speech taught in schools, that would be the first public
Speaker 5: speaker politician whose speech is taught in school since Martin
Speaker 5: Luther King and John F. Kennedy. That is the rocket.
Speaker 5: So why don't we take that speech and put a
Speaker 5: melody on it? So his words are his words. We
Speaker 5: don't have to change his words. We just put a
Speaker 5: melody on his words and don't put drums on it.
Speaker 5: The moment you put drums on it, you're talking to
Speaker 5: a demographic. If there's no drums, then we're gonna get
Speaker 5: that emotion. And so I was like, let me show
Speaker 5: you how to do it. So then I did it
Speaker 5: like forty five seconds, forty five minutes. I was like, look,
Speaker 5: there was a creed written unfound in bacuments the declared
Speaker 5: the nestiny of the nation. Yes we can, Yes we can.
Speaker 5: It was whispered by slaves and abolition like if we
Speaker 5: could do that, that's our rocket and we can land
Speaker 5: it on the moon. We could throw this rock, this
Speaker 5: baraque and land it on the moon on this rocket.
Speaker 5: Called his speech and so, and I had promised Terry mccalluff.
Speaker 5: He was like, well, we need to get you involved.
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't know who I'm gonna vote for.
Speaker 5: Bro He's like, look after Super Tuesday, if Hillary's in
Speaker 5: the lead, you're gonna come with me and you're gonna
Speaker 5: sit next to me and we're gonna get you know,
Speaker 5: get you activated. I was like, okay, if he's if
Speaker 5: she's in the lead on Super Tuesday, you got me.
Speaker 5: So this happened on the Thursday before Super Tuesday by
Speaker 5: f we shot the video to the song. By Saturday
Speaker 5: it had twenty million views.
Speaker 2: You it just blew.
Speaker 5: I mean, and I never I didn't know anybody from
Speaker 5: the Obama campaign, and so I had to call Terry mccalloff.
Speaker 5: I was like, Yo, Terry, Remember I told you that
Speaker 5: I was going to go by. I was going to
Speaker 5: go with whatever inspired me. I've been inspired. And that
Speaker 5: was his commencement speech, and I just he was like, well,
Speaker 5: but he's trailing. I was like, yeah, but I got
Speaker 5: to get behind where my heart's at. And and I
Speaker 5: think there's a there's a way to inspire people with
Speaker 5: that speech. If that speech is taught in school, that
Speaker 5: was my my, my, my spider sense is my gut.
Speaker 5: If that speech is taught in schools, we could make impact.
Speaker 5: And I got to do my job to get teachers
Speaker 5: to teach the speech in schools. And that that was
Speaker 5: the U. And then then I met value Jared after.
Speaker 3: That amazing and then you went an Emmy that too.
Speaker 3: That's crazy that in.
Speaker 2: Shepherd Fairiy's poster man.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 2: That was that campaign and that sense of spirit and pride,
Speaker 2: the sort of bottom up, yes we can, I'm self organizing.
Speaker 2: It was a whole different thing and completely. It changed
Speaker 2: the paradigm of what was possible. It still has. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's not been replicated. It's hard to replicate that.
Speaker 2: Ada Harris is trying to replicate that. But that was
Speaker 2: that was something else, a cultural phenomenon. You were a
Speaker 2: big part of that.
Speaker 5: Man, Oh, thank you so much. That means a lot,
Speaker 5: you know. But what's awesome about that Shepherd Fery poster
Speaker 5: is that that wasn't the first time a song and
Speaker 5: and art like Shepherd Fairy on the album that had
Speaker 5: words of love on it Elephunk, Shepherd Fairy did that
Speaker 5: album cover.
Speaker 2: I need even realize.
Speaker 1: Man, wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So me and Shepherd have worked together in the
Speaker 5: past on a bunch of different types of things, so
Speaker 5: Elephant Monkey Business and in two thousand and eight directly
Speaker 5: with Yes we Can and then the yes we Can
Speaker 5: poster that he did for Obama. But we that was
Speaker 5: a that was your serendipitous when we when we found
Speaker 5: ourselves out there in the field because we activated ourselves
Speaker 5: me with music, came with art and.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: But but you know, because the world was different when
Speaker 5: you traveled the world in two thousand, two thousand and one, two, three, four,
Speaker 5: five six, like America was not it was. It kind
Speaker 5: of felt the way it feels when you leave a
Speaker 5: mayor when you were when you were traveling when Trump
Speaker 5: was president, like people would be like you, guys, what
Speaker 5: the hell is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: Guys?
Speaker 5: Like you have to travel though, you have to leave
Speaker 5: the country to see what it's like how people see us.
Speaker 5: And we live in a big world, right, the world is.
Speaker 5: The world is massive, And there's other countries that have
Speaker 5: awesome freedoms, Like Holland is a pretty free country. They
Speaker 5: had legalized we way before we did. Awesome healthcare. France
Speaker 5: has an awesome healthcare program. They taxed like crazy, but
Speaker 5: it still has awesome healthcare. And call everybody, get go
Speaker 5: to the best colleges for free.
Speaker 4: You see, Marshaun higher taxes in California and over there, Marshawn.
Speaker 1: We ain't talking about all that, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I mean? Like you got to travel the world.
Speaker 5: You gotta see like Singapore is like, wow, that's that
Speaker 5: place is booming. Singapore ain't older than my mama's older
Speaker 5: than Singapore. My mom's older than the UAE. And when
Speaker 5: you're seeing cities being like I remember going to Dubai
Speaker 5: in two thousand and five, it ain't It ain't the
Speaker 5: Dubai right now. So you seeing countries, cities erect like,
Speaker 5: how are they doing this? And watch a Watts how
Speaker 5: are they doing this? And like, you know, the hood
Speaker 5: is still the hood? Why can't we get why can't
Speaker 5: we boom? Like what's keeping us from from booming? But
Speaker 5: you've got to travel the world. You got to be
Speaker 5: able to see, like, you know, how awesome America is,
Speaker 5: how from from outside in? But then how like a
Speaker 5: what's going on over there from when you leave the States?
Speaker 4: You know, are you still involved now? Will politically like that?
Speaker 4: Or is that are you still involved now?
Speaker 5: In your end? I'm involved with with trying to scale
Speaker 5: what we're doing in LA. I think that to me
Speaker 5: is I'm a I'm a Democrat. But then at the
Speaker 5: same time, I know Republicans that are awesome, and there's
Speaker 5: Republicans that go that kids that go to that go
Speaker 5: to our program, and people are people, and I try
Speaker 5: I think the best best use for me right now
Speaker 5: is to continue that type of work that the work
Speaker 5: that I'm doing and scaling it and activating myself where
Speaker 5: I actually can see change. Like firsthand, you you see
Speaker 5: like something that's not happening, you do your part, you
Speaker 5: make it happen and you see awesome results. And now
Speaker 5: how can I take these results and put them in
Speaker 5: other areas? Like when man Seawan is like, Yo, bring
Speaker 5: that robotics to Oakland, I'm like, Yo, That's what I'm
Speaker 5: talking about. Let's do that. That's because you know your voice,
Speaker 5: your reach, your stance there. You know, that's what we need.
Speaker 5: We need more willing and capable people to take what
Speaker 5: we're doing here and then you be do that does
Speaker 5: it over there. And if we can do that across
Speaker 5: every single every single innocity, he got their hero. You know,
Speaker 5: every single inner city got the person that either represents it.
Speaker 5: And sports are represented in music or they represented in fashion.
Speaker 5: And if we could go out and adopt a school
Speaker 5: or a couple of schools and then mentor kids and
Speaker 5: bring other folks uh to mentor the kids like I got.
Speaker 5: I got mentors that come from NASA, mentors that come
Speaker 5: from Boeing. And when we had the Boeing mentor, like
Speaker 5: we went to the championships. You know, because engineers are
Speaker 5: engineers make the world go around. They they don't one
Speaker 5: is that like, make it make it capable for all
Speaker 5: these like things that we take for granted. You know,
Speaker 5: there was an earthquake here in LA and I got
Speaker 5: them my phone pinged uh huh moments before the earthquake
Speaker 5: app my shake app.
Speaker 1: That was a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2: Right, that's right. You did that game event on this
Speaker 2: For eight years since I was lieutenant governor, millions every
Speaker 2: year my shake app. Go download the my shake app.
Speaker 2: Big one is coming.
Speaker 5: Here for it, dude. I was like early warning, I said,
Speaker 5: you coming then then then then it ever started shaking.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 5: That was so. I was like, yo, bro, engineers do that.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 5: Engineers like the engineers.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 5: I want engineers.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 5: N w A Me and Marshaan could say this. It's
Speaker 5: called n w as right, algorithms bring.
Speaker 1: It and I'm and I'm right there with you. I'm
Speaker 1: right there with you on my soul.
Speaker 5: N w A, Bro.
Speaker 1: You let me know where I need to get so
Speaker 1: I could so I could debrief and get activated. You
Speaker 1: let me know what's up. I'm on the god damn way.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting you to talk about that because I
Speaker 1: just did a piece in Seattle with the Pacific Northwest,
Speaker 1: and they was, uh, you know, I had the beastquake
Speaker 1: run that assizement activity up there in Seattle. So I
Speaker 1: went up there to go how that the folks up there,
Speaker 1: and they were showing me all this ship like the
Speaker 1: fault lines and you know what I mean with the
Speaker 1: earth question. And I was just asking them, like, do
Speaker 1: how the system works and how they are tapped in
Speaker 1: and the uh the systems up and Seattle was connected
Speaker 1: to the ship in California, and how that ship works.
Speaker 1: And when you say about this pain, they showed me
Speaker 1: this back room where all of this ship is being
Speaker 1: recorded and they basically were telling me exactly what you
Speaker 1: just said. They able to get a reading before it
Speaker 1: actually happened. Now I'm not sure how many seconds that
Speaker 1: they are able to read it before it actually hit
Speaker 1: to send out the UH to send out the message that.
Speaker 5: Was a good three seconds.
Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna more than double that. The technology
Speaker 2: is there to double that.
Speaker 5: I take three seconds over no seconds?
Speaker 2: How about tensa How about fifteen seconds? How about the
Speaker 2: ability to stop a train knowing that an earthquake is
Speaker 2: coming before it gets derailed? How about. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is the opportunity. By the way, in Japan, this technology,
Speaker 2: they've been on the forefront of this technology. Japan, they've
Speaker 2: been able to do that with their high speed rail
Speaker 2: trains to literally slow them down with that kind of
Speaker 2: advanced notice. But it depends how approximate you are to
Speaker 2: the epicenter in terms of the time you have in
Speaker 2: terms of that advanced notification. But we want this to
Speaker 2: be on every Android, every Apple platform, and we want
Speaker 2: it to be part of basically the phone when you
Speaker 2: purchase it, so you don't have to necessarily download it.
Speaker 2: We're making progress in that space. We're still working with
Speaker 2: Apple to bring that bring that to everybody.
Speaker 4: I got a question back when you started with easye
Speaker 4: in the West Coast rap and all that was. That
Speaker 4: was the media to depict it, right with all the
Speaker 4: battles between East Coast and West Coast back then when
Speaker 4: we started. I'm curious because you were in the heyday
Speaker 4: with Snoop and Dre and everybody in Tupac was the
Speaker 4: Was it as bad as they made it seem to
Speaker 4: be back then as far as the media.
Speaker 5: Well, the East Coast West Coast beef, Yes, that was
Speaker 5: that got bad, Like two people lost their lives, Two
Speaker 5: people that we know that were dear to the music lost
Speaker 5: their lives, and a lot of like invisible folks that
Speaker 5: you know got caught up into that whole feud as well.
Speaker 5: It was unnecessary journey that hip hop went through. And
Speaker 5: if you think about just the power of urban music,
Speaker 5: it's literally changed the world, you know, changed fashion boosted economies. Uh,
Speaker 5: hip hop. Hip hop is an amazing art form community culture.
Speaker 5: When when Easy signed us, he was cool that we
Speaker 5: were different, Like he wasn't trying to like we never
Speaker 5: got told like y'all need to be a little bit
Speaker 5: more harder, Like he was like, I like, how creative
Speaker 5: you guys are? I like how expressive you guys are?
Speaker 5: You know, And he was a true entrepreneur. I always say, like,
Speaker 5: what would the world be like if Easy never passed away?
Speaker 5: If Easy never died? Would the giants of you know,
Speaker 5: the giants and uh the moguls and hip hop? Would
Speaker 5: they be the moguls? Would jay Z be jay Z?
Speaker 5: If Easy never passed away? And that's a serious question,
Speaker 5: Like think about it. If Easy never passed away, that
Speaker 5: means Easy and Dre would have rekindled and work together.
Speaker 5: That means Ruthless Records would have probably most likely went
Speaker 5: to Interscope with Jimmy. That means Tupac never would have
Speaker 5: passed away. That means Biggie never would have passed away.
Speaker 5: If Biggie never passed away, jay Z wouldn't be jay
Speaker 5: Z like jay Z's jay Z.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: That means there would be other Moguls in the space.
Speaker 5: This means, you know, bone Thugs in Harmony would have
Speaker 5: continued to be bone Thugs. This means another NWA record
Speaker 5: would have come to be. That means Snoop Dogg would
Speaker 5: still be Snoop because Dre discovered Snoop. And if you
Speaker 5: think of like the power of Dre and all the
Speaker 5: artists that he's like, Dre was East coast, West coast,
Speaker 5: like think of from from fifty cent to Eminem Detroit
Speaker 5: to Snoop. That's a lot of that blueprint you saw
Speaker 5: with Eazye where he was collaborating with Tretch, he was
Speaker 5: collaborating with you know, Houston Rappers and the Roofless had
Speaker 5: an amazing like branch ice Cube left and then started
Speaker 5: working with the Bomb Squad. But you know public Enemy Folk,
Speaker 5: so Eventually, if Easy never passed, ice Cube probably would
Speaker 5: have went back to n WA, that East coast West coast,
Speaker 5: you know, Union would have you would have seen the
Speaker 5: bomb squad producing for NW uh NWA on roofless. The
Speaker 5: dynamics would have be different if Easy never died.
Speaker 3: So how did he find you? How was that meaning?
Speaker 3: Hod that come about?
Speaker 5: I was freestyling at a uh. I was freestyling at
Speaker 5: a at like a like an open mic, and I
Speaker 5: was like, you know, I told you from the jump,
Speaker 5: I'm competitive. I would like rip foods. I would take somebody,
Speaker 5: I would study their style and I would do their
Speaker 5: style better than them. And then I would like you know,
Speaker 5: flip it and contort and like use similes and metaphors
Speaker 5: and fuck people up. And that was my like whole thing,
Speaker 5: Like all right, let me get into the head, let
Speaker 5: me talk shit, let me like fuck with they mental
Speaker 5: and and and improv. I'm fast physically, I'm fast mentally,
Speaker 5: Like I'm competitive.
Speaker 3: Bro, I love it, bro smiling right now. Bro, come on,
Speaker 3: I'm getting fired up right now.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 5: But yeah, but but but I still have fun with
Speaker 5: it though, Like I said, there's a thin line between
Speaker 5: like uh, audaciousness and arrogance, because if you talk ship
Speaker 5: and you're arrogant, there's warst popping off.
Speaker 1: And you better be able to.
Speaker 5: If you audacious and and talk ship and and it's fine,
Speaker 5: you can still get in the head. But you know,
Speaker 5: like you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I love.
Speaker 3: It though, Look I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1: Will.
Speaker 4: That's a fascinating time, man. And like I said, we
Speaker 4: can't thank you enough for today. If you will, I've
Speaker 4: known you a long time, bro, and Jamal and Jay
Speaker 4: are family, uh and and and you've been family And
Speaker 4: so with everything you said, we got to connect you
Speaker 4: and more Shawn, to help change these cities along with Gavin,
Speaker 4: one of the most impressive people I've met, ran literally
Speaker 4: off the chart, man.
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, meanwhile, you're back on the road next year
Speaker 2: in Vegas, the playground for the world.
Speaker 5: So we're doing a Vegas residency and then after that,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna start uh preparing to run for
Speaker 5: mayor of Los Angeles. Just can't get you.
Speaker 2: Put it out there. We got we got two mayors
Speaker 2: in waiting right now. Marshawn running for mayor. You're running
Speaker 2: for l A and Doug and I are running for
Speaker 2: our goddamn lives.
Speaker 5: The hell is this all right? Worried up guys?
Speaker 1: You okay?
Speaker 4: Guys okay,