1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Man, what's hand him? Man? You got Marshaw Bismall Lynch. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Knewsome and you're listening to politics. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: You know to be you're known to be. 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: Gavin. 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 4: It's interesting. I was on the heels of the debate 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 4: on Tuesday. 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: I know you're there. 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 4: I know Marsham was somewhere. I just got back from 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 4: a little trip here. What was the vibe like there 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 4: being there? 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: He got crushed. I mean Trump got crushed. He knows 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: and he knew it. I mean I was in the 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: spin room and all of a sudden, there's all this commotion. 14 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: I'm doing a live hit on NBC or MSNBC, one 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: of the two, and everybody looks over our shoulder and 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: there's this giant scrum because Trump came down to his 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: own spin room. And I'll tell you what it had been. 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: There's no greater tell than that. When you are the principal, 19 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: you're in the debate, You've got all these folks, they're 20 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: supposed to be doing that for you. He clearly was 21 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: trying to shape ship the fact that he got crushed, 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: and of course he came in as only Trump said. 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: He said it was the best debate he ever had. 24 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: He was here in California, trash in California, at his 25 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: golf course, right on the coast, the Pacific Ocean behind him. 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 2: More couldn't be more beautiful, saying it's the worst state 27 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 2: in the world, trash and everything about California, and said 28 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: he won the debate overwhelmingly. The polls represent that he 29 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: got crushed. It was an embarrassment. He looked weak. 30 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 4: Old goat explained it to me. So when you say 31 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: the spin room, so he walks, he leaves the stage, 32 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: and the spin room is what how many people are 33 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 4: in there? 34 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: Who's rooms? 35 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: It's in another room. So you got the convention which 36 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: is just down the road. He made his way all 37 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: the way up to the convention room, and you just 38 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: imagine hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of reporters and all 39 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: doing live shots from the all the spectrum, Fox News, 40 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: not just you know, ABC News and CNN. Everybody's there. 41 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: You got the Who's who the Republican Party. You got 42 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: RFK Junior there, he got Tulca Gabbard there, Vivek Ramaswami, 43 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: you got Doug Bergman all his surrogates, you got all 44 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: of us on the other side, and yeah, I mean 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: and everybody's spinning. Of course, for us it was a cakewalk. 46 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: I mean we walked in there big smiles on our face. 47 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: These guys had a hard time spinning the fact that 48 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: it was a good debate for for for Trump, it 49 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: was terrible. I mean, he looked. You can't look at 50 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: it objectively and not and not make. 51 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: That Trump have any words. 52 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I would look forward to see them. 53 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: I want to have some words with him today after 54 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: he's trash in California. 55 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: You should have went and grabbed him gloves that I 56 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: was using out there in Cuba to fight them. 57 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: Cackling those kids. By the way, let's talk about that. 58 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: Where the hell was the ref You were tackling. 59 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: The kids and I had to play to my advantage. 60 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, two hundred pouds man, two hundred pouds man. 61 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: Them little kids were shifty, man. But you should have 62 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: You should have grabbed some of them gloves and seen 63 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: if a batman can throw them hands. 64 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you that the gloves that were throwing 65 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: or Harris through the gloves, she threw the glove. And 66 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: by the way, if it was a prize fight, Marshawn 67 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: It was a tko in the second round, she took 68 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: him down commanded the stage from the first second when 69 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: she walked right up to him and introduced herself as 70 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris. 71 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: She she put it out there how to pronounce her her. 72 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: He he's still the disrespect that that that ex president 73 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: has his next level. 74 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: Man. 75 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: But Gavin, after all this shit he talks about you, 76 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: do you ever feel like when you saw him in 77 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 4: the spin room to walk up to him and just say, hey, bro, 78 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 4: you got fucking crushed and look him in the eye 79 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: and walk out? 80 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Or do you no, Gavin Bro, we from California. We 81 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: don't do no talking. So if you're gonna walk up, 82 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: you got a fire on blood. I ain't gonna even 83 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: hold you. So if you ain't gonna do that, then 84 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: you might as well. Just don't. Don't turn into one 85 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: of these internet gainsts. If you've seen it's on site. Damn, 86 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: you just gotta get off hella quick like. 87 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: Damn, that's what I'm saying. 88 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: You got to hit him with a club punch too. 89 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you it's probably been a long 90 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 1: time since you've been in the club, but you get 91 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: in a club, you off a couple of them shots 92 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: of pa trenity. You get the little wobble like this, 93 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: and then you come overhand like this, right on that chin. 94 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: If he could take that. 95 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: Oh god, you know I was looking at the verbal hits, 96 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: no physical hits. But I appreciate. And by the way, 97 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: when the Secret Service visits you, I just want to 98 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 2: make sure that we recognized that was Markshawn Lynch talking 99 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: about the physical. 100 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: Tell them they better make sure I ain't got a 101 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: little bit of all in me because I got a 102 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: club punch for they ass too. Have you ever been 103 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: in a Have you ever been in a real fight before? 104 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: Again, you see the scar right there, brother, right there, 105 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: sliding into home plate. 106 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about I'm 107 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: talking about got. 108 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: Into it, got into it. That's a cleat right there, brother, 109 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: that's a cleat right there. Stitches. 110 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: So you're saying you didn't do too well. 111 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: Talk about guns, not just the ones in Oklahoma. Let's 112 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: talk about the guns. But don't I don't take my 113 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: weapon out. I used my verbal weapons. I'm a peacemaker. 114 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 5: Now he's so. 115 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Now, so you did throw hands. But back in the day, 116 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: like even when you was a ute. 117 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: When I was good, I was good. I was the 118 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: one getting bullied. 119 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: Man. 120 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that another day. But no, I 121 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: grew into my own now, no one messes. Well, how 122 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: many people. 123 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: May say, oh, yeah, you got a motherfucking title that 124 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: a lot of motherfuckers are scared of. I wouldn't try to, 125 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, See though, y'all on that 126 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: level together where y'all could actually you know what I mean, 127 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: because I see all the YouTubers doing it, I mean, 128 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: the athletes going into it. I mean, you know, go 129 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: ahead and show the political world that you know what 130 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean, y'all ain't scared to get in the ring 131 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 1: and throw a couple of hands. 132 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: Well, no, here's the deal. Marshawn, Gavin and I both 133 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: had bullies. I'll tell you my story, Gavin can tell his. 134 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: I'll never forget this. I'm in seventh grade, Marshawan, and 135 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: I got this big guy's an eighth grader. Every day 136 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: is waiting for me at the top of the steps, 137 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: and he I would go. I would go around the 138 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 4: long way to school because I was terrified this guy 139 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: he got me one time, pushed me down and I 140 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 4: was terrified this guy. 141 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: So you never ate lunch in eighth grade. 142 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: No, I was in seventh grade. 143 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: But then my dad, My dad heard about it, and 144 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 4: he said, listen, the only way you're gonna be able 145 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 4: this guy's going to stop bullying you is you got 146 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 4: to stand up to him. So he literally bought me 147 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: some boxing gloves, took me in the backyard, taught me 148 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 4: how to box and throw. So finally, after about three weeks, 149 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: I walk up the steps and the big dude's waiting 150 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 4: for me. And I sat there and the guy said words, 151 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: all the buddies around him, and. 152 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: I got the first push and wa hit the. 153 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 4: Dude right in the nose. He didn't didn't do anything, 154 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: but he beat me up. But guess what, that was 155 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: the last time that ever happened to me by this guy. 156 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 3: And then we became friends. 157 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: You upside down by your ankles, and he didn't hand me. 158 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 4: Upside down like I did. John Schneider in your contract. 159 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 4: I still have the picture of that one. He said 160 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 4: that that was my bully. I know, Gavin, you had 161 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 4: a few bully stories. 162 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: We call it the Bully of Baltimore because it was 163 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: Baltimore Avenue in courtA Madera, and my story done end well. 164 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: But I will say that boxing thing resonated because this 165 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: is around Rocky. When Rocky came out and I was 166 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: doing raw eggs every single morning. It got my gloves 167 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: from Big five down the block. It was hitting all 168 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: the time, and I was ready to go, and I 169 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: went out, went out. He used to surround me. I 170 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: had a paper route and I'd come in on the 171 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: paper route. I used to try to climb in the 172 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: back and it was always hard, but had my bike, 173 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: I couldn't climb over, and so anytime he come down, 174 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: they'd surround me, push me over. My sister would start crying, 175 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: and I will say, see, was my mom not my 176 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: dad in this case. She went down with me one 177 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: night and they lived just down the block and walked 178 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: right in and I thought, I thought she was going 179 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: to take care of it. She made me walk up 180 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: there with her. I'm nervous as hell right behind her, 181 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: and they got into it. My mom was like she 182 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: was young, and they got into it, and the dad 183 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: and the mom were defending the bully, and my mom 184 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: got in it. She turned around and brought us back house. 185 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: About six months later, we moved out of the neighborhood, 186 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: so it didn't end as well. 187 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: You got ran about the spot. 188 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: You can't ran up out the spot. Shit. 189 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: Oh no, man, you know what Bully of Baltimore. 190 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: Man, if he's listening, it ain't over it yet. 191 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: But Marshaun, you know what's crazy about that? 192 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 4: The incident I had and Gavin you might feel the 193 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: same way as a father, you know, like that scarred 194 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: me literally for a long time. And so whenever I 195 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: hear the kids come back about, you know, a kid 196 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 4: at school getting picked on by somebody whoever, I always 197 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 4: go to my So listen, man, here's my story. Go 198 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: befriend that kid, Go find that kid and make it right. 199 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: Because that's the one thing that one of the only 200 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 4: things that pissed me off as a parent when I 201 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 4: hear stories of kids eating alone or getting bullied, whatever 202 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: it may be, you know, have someone go pick him 203 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: up and defend him, whatever it may be. And so 204 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: I'm a big believer in that because I went through 205 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 4: I'm sure the same thing with you guys. 206 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 2: Say, trust me, man, one hundred percent, Like there's nothing 207 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: I hate more than bullies. And I I completely absolutely 208 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: convinced the exact same thing happened to you. It was 209 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: that early experience. And by the way, it was also 210 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: around that same time that one of my seventh grade classmates, 211 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: seventh grade classmates called me new scum instead of new sum. 212 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: And you know, I listened today Donald Trump. He called 213 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: me new scum about ten times story to press conference. 214 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: All I could think is, this is a guy who 215 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: wants to be president of the United States again calling 216 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: me the same damn nickname that a kid in seventh 217 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 2: grade he calls you today, Yeah, new scum newscom I mean, 218 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: talk about a man child. 219 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: I could guess we could say that nickname kind of 220 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: stuck with you. Some some people get names like uh 221 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: like beast mode. I mean some you got new scum. 222 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: Some getting new scum. So you know, it's kind of 223 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: like you know, I mean, some things just stick. 224 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: Men. This guy's obsessed with you, bro, It's crazy. 225 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: He's a pathetic weakness ten times today weakness. Bulliers are 226 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: the weakest people in the world. They're weak, they put 227 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: on a mask, they're weak, they're broken, they're insecure. That's 228 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: all that is. That's why you hit him in the face. 229 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: The dude ran away. I mean it's a cliche, it's classic. 230 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: But you know what, a lot of folks don't have 231 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: that courage to hit him back in the face. And 232 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: they and that's why we got to stand up for I. 233 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: Think you just know that it's value in bringing you up. 234 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: So by him bringing you up, then I guess he thinks, 235 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he got the he gonna 236 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: get the ear of some people by bringing up Gad. 237 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: That's that's the that's the value in you, batman. 238 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. No, I'm here for everybody. I told 239 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: you I work for everybody. 240 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: Start getting a little worried if he started calling you batman, 241 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: because then you know he really he really, he really, 242 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: he really honed it in on trying to figure some 243 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: shit out. Yeah, you gotta watch that one, Sodvin. 244 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: Were you surprised he didn't want a debate for the third. 245 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: Time, No, he's scared to death. I mean, of course 246 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: he doesn't want a debate. 247 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: He just he thought he won. He thought he won. 248 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: No, he didn't think he wanted. He knew better. That's 249 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: why he showed up at the spin room. He's a 250 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: con man. He's oster I mean, so, I mean, obviously 251 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: he's spinning the spinners. I mean, it was embarrassment and 252 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: he knows it, and he doesn't want to be embarrassed again, 253 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: so he copped out. He ran, he ran away, you know, 254 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: I mean to talk about it. I mean, she punched 255 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: him in the face and he ran away. I mean 256 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: it's a perfect metaphor for what we just discussed. And uh. 257 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: And the problem is the poll numbers don't reflect much 258 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: of a move. And that goes back to your point. 259 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: In Oklahoma, we're living in two different worlds in the 260 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,599 Speaker 2: same state nation. I mean, it's it's it's gonna be 261 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: a grind, man. It's like World War One. You're just 262 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: in the trenches, inch by inch by inch, back and forth, 263 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: and so nothing about this stuff's going to be easy. 264 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: But it just it's a reflective of the moment we're 265 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: living in. 266 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny. 267 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 4: I read I read the Pat Mahomes thing where he 268 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 4: didn't want to endorse anybody, which I totally did, but 269 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: he was. 270 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: He was his reason why it was great. I sent 271 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: it to Gavin. 272 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 4: He's like, look, you know, I want you know, people 273 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 4: can like whoever they want, but live in humanity, you know, 274 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 4: live together peaceful whole thing. 275 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: So he said it in the right way. 276 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 4: I can't remember exactly what you said, but it was 277 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 4: a pretty cool comment. He's like, look, I'm not going 278 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: to get involved in this. That's not my job. But 279 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: you know there was a day when everyone did get 280 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 4: along and they weren't fighting and killing over you know 281 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 4: who's going to be the president? 282 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: Amen? And you know, I will say the biggest thing 283 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: they did happened that night was Taylor Swift's endorsement of Harris. 284 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: For no other reason than this, just getting folks that 285 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: may not vote, young folks to vote, get them registered, 286 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 2: and get them vote to vote, and that could be 287 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: an entire race that could be determinative in this race. 288 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: Don't ever underestimate her influence and power. And as I 289 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: gave advice to Trump, he should be very careful of 290 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: how he reacts to that endorsement. 291 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 4: Kevin, have you seen an influx of the younger people 292 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: from the last three elections? More votes of the eighteen 293 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 4: to twenty two year old out since eight And when 294 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 4: Obama started to now. 295 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: No, I mean, well, it's going to be a good 296 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: segue to will I am. It was so instrumental as 297 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: a cultural icon during that two thousand and eight election 298 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: with Obama. But no, it's I mean, you've seen regression 299 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: in that respect. There's a lot of cynicism with young 300 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: folks in the last few years about politics and politicians, 301 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: and so they're walking away. That's why it's a big 302 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: deal that not only she dialed in for Harris, but 303 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: she's dialing up the registration and the energy for the 304 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: Harris campaign. So no, I mean it's the young folks 305 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: that ultimately will sway this election or like will determine 306 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 2: the fame and future of this election and the issues 307 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 2: they care about, the issues Harris cares about, the climate issues, 308 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: a gun policy, gun safety issues obviously, around democracy and 309 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: choice freedom, all those good things, right, Marshan. Hey, by 310 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: the way, Marshan, what the hell is going on? There's 311 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: apparently we have an epidemic of people eating cats and dogs. 312 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: Have you been reading about this stuff? Brother? 313 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: I did. Man, I've just seen they dropped. They dropped 314 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: your boy dt uh his mixtape talking about eating cats 315 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: and dogs. Man, they are bro. They doing some ship. 316 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. I don't know, man. 317 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a fucked up time right now. 318 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: I wonder how they're doing it. Is they doing shish 319 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: kebabs or the barbecue grill I mean fried or I 320 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: mean I don't know how they're doing that, but I 321 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: mean leave it, leave it, Leave it up to people. 322 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: They gonna fucking uh put some salt and pepper on 323 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: anything and try it. God damn, that's assuming it happened. 324 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: B s's bs. 325 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: We ever a guest starting ready to jump in right now. 326 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 327 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: Bring Will in? 328 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 5: What's up? What's up? 329 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: Will? 330 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 4: Are you coming? 331 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: Man? 332 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 5: What's up with it? Way? Gavin? 333 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: How you doing? Brother? 334 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us? 335 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 5: Man, show your daddy whatever? 336 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 4: Bro? 337 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's had? And Lane? You didn't bounce on this? 338 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: Motherfucker cooler than the fan, my boy? Damn. Look, I'm 339 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: glad I came with a little stam because ship man, 340 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: I gotta you know, I ain't. We gotta represent for that. 341 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: You feel mes one time? God damn is money with 342 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: your big donk. 343 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 5: Just chilling here? 344 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: Bro? 345 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 5: Just got back from South Korea. 346 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: South Korea. 347 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: That's one of them ones. 348 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: That was one of them ones. 349 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: That's one of them ones. 350 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: On God, I had the pleasure. 351 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 4: Uh And and Will noses back in the late nineties 352 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 4: meeting him with my client the Dirty Bird, Jamal Anderson 353 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: and Jay uh Will back in the day my. 354 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: Younger years as an agent. 355 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 4: But we're so excited to have one of the legendary rappers, singers, songwriter, producers, entrepreneurs, 356 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: any winner with over one hundred million albums sold worldwide, 357 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: an absolute icon in this world. Will I am welcome 358 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 4: to polit Chicken Broy. 359 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 5: It's great to great to be here. 360 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: You know. 361 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 5: I like I'm a I'm a competitor. I like a 362 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 5: ship and you know, yo, real talk. If I didn't 363 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 5: get that concussion, I would be like one of the 364 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 5: best football players. But but I got that concussion. 365 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: Concussion, concussion, I got. 366 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 5: I got hit hard position. 367 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: What position was you playing? 368 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 5: I was a taeilback. I'm fast as hell? 369 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: Th Oh is that right? 370 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 5: Yeah? I'm fast? Bro? 371 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: Like oh so you so you was told that rock then? 372 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: For real? 373 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 5: Like Jamal Anderson, I mean he ain't fast, but I 374 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 5: whipped him in the race. Oh, Reggie Bush, he never 375 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 5: wanted to race me because you know I'll smoke him. 376 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: Okay this day, I'm fast. Reggie got and Reggie got gassed. 377 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 5: Though Reggie ain't faster than me and Reggie right now on, God, bro, 378 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 5: you know you never wanted to race me because you 379 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 5: know I'll skunk you. Bro, like you know that. 380 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: Hey, well hold on if you because Reggie fold three, 381 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: that ain't somebody you know. You just get to just 382 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: be saying, I'm gonna running off phone. So you must 383 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: got some uh some high obtaining the in them things. 384 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: You must got some ponies. You over there running on 385 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: my way. 386 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 5: I'm four two. 387 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: Damn Okay, now we're talking. 388 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: We're talking, so will will? 389 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 4: Hey, who was your Who is the back you grew 390 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 4: up liking the back in the day? 391 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: Who are the running backs you like? 392 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 5: So my uncle played football for the for the for 393 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 5: the foul, so it's in the blood. 394 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 395 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 5: Then he played for the Rams yep, so yep. And 396 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 5: then I thought I was gonna follow in his footsteps 397 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 5: till I got cracked and yep, that's not that that 398 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 5: that was That was the end of my career. So 399 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 5: you were just fast, yeah, but sometimes you ain't that 400 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 5: fast to like if you get in the pitch and 401 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 5: you turn to the left and bam, like the speed 402 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 5: don't do everything. 403 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 4: Will Growing up growing up in La where were you 404 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: playing back in the day as a youngster? 405 00:17:59,080 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: What years you get the cancut? 406 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: Oh? 407 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 5: I got the concussion like straight straight seventeen okay, and 408 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 5: that's when I was like, you know what, I'm just 409 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 5: gonna do this music stuff. 410 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: Okay. Did this happen in a game or did this 411 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: happen in practice? 412 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 5: No, this happened in the game, and to the point 413 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 5: where it messed up how I how I played afterwards, 414 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 5: because I was always I didn't like the feeling of 415 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 5: I didn't know how I got there, you know what 416 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like that panic, like how did I get here? 417 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 5: Like where am I at? 418 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: Like? 419 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 5: I didn't like that feeling. 420 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: You got that da sold on? Hold on? Did you 421 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: did you get a little nauseated too? 422 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 5: I got nauseated. 423 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: I got okay. Oh then you had one of them ones? Yeah, 424 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I lived for that ship. 425 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 2: How many sean how many times that happened to you 426 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: and cussed? Yeah, like one of those ones as you said. 427 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm being hit like that for show. But 428 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: as far as concussions, I never been diagnosed with a 429 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: uh with a concussion before? 430 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 5: Do you remember like not remembering? 431 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hell yeah, that's a good question. I mean, 432 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on. I said, I've never been diagnosed. 433 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: Oh got it, got it, So you know what I mean. 434 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I ain't done had him, because I 435 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: know as much as I be hitting motherfuckers with my head, 436 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: I know some I know something going on in that thing. 437 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: We'd like to call it screws loose. But uh, yeah, 438 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: I've never been diagnosed. But I that feeling when you 439 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: get hit and you get nauseating in your stomach, like 440 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: ooh shit, this ain't this ain't right. But I'll just 441 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: go throw up and then get right back in there 442 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: and try to see what's up. Now. Now, if I 443 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: don't remember, I'll go ask for my team. Hey, which 444 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: one of the motherfucker's hit me? All right, that's who 445 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: did it? All right? Then I gotta go see him 446 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: about something. He got to come meet me in the office. 447 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this, I just asked you if 448 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: it was in a game or in practice, because they 449 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: say we used to have this drill called the Oklahoma drill, 450 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: and that's the head of drill running back in the linebacker. 451 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: And they say that drill alone made more NBA superstars 452 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: than anything. Because if you can, if you can get 453 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: through the Oklahoma hitting drills, then you know what, you 454 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: probably can You probably can make it in this uh 455 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: in this football thing. 456 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I couldn't have done that. 457 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you didn't. 458 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: Exactly it worked out for everybody. 459 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, like just just I mean, I love football and 460 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 5: I love to compete. I like I'm the talk ship 461 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 5: kind of competitive. I like that because you because you 462 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 5: can get in the skin and you can fuck the 463 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 5: whole game up. 464 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, because they're like that type of Yeah, because 465 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: a lot of individuals they don't understand how how mental 466 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: the game is. I think is more physical than anything, 467 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: but mentally, if you as not prepared and mentally you 468 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: are not ready, you'll have a long day. And if 469 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: you're an individual who because you say you could talk 470 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: some ship. 471 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: I would. 472 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean if you could just get over that, 473 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: if you could get over that and get through that, yeah, 474 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: you you, that's when you start understanding, you know what 475 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean? And I take that ship as like life 476 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: learned lessons and I apply that to life, you know 477 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: what I mean? Because that ship. I recently just got 478 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: back into a to doing double days and I've just 479 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: been having like all these deep ass mental talks, and 480 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: I didn't realize how much, like I missed that ship 481 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: and how much those talks, how much that shit made 482 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: me the individual who I was. And it didn't come 483 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: from no outside source. It was all within. I mean, 484 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, we take we take a lot of that 485 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: shit for how you say that for granted, we take 486 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: a lot of that ship for granted, but you know, 487 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: recently just getting back into it, like, oh shit, well 488 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: maybe that's how or maybe that's why I was able to, 489 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, stay focused and do the 490 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: shit that I was able to do on the field. 491 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, I mean, I'm talking to myself 492 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: when you getting in there, you grinding, and you just 493 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: feel like you can't do no more, and then you 494 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: automatically to tell yourself like, hey, we done made it there, 495 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: we didn't come this far, Like why turn around and 496 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: you go and put that extra in And then when 497 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: you go out there and you see the actual results 498 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: to it. Now, while you win it, you don't feel it, 499 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: but when you think back, like, ooh shit, dad, damn, 500 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know the power of me was so motherfucking strong. Yeah, yeah, 501 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: I love that shit. 502 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: So I will I imagine so as as Marshall was saying, 503 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: he took that off the field and obviously a big 504 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: part of his life. I imagine when you got concussed 505 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 2: and you took that same competitive energy and spirit, uh 506 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 2: and that inner voice to all these endeavors, not just 507 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: in music, but across the spectrum, including your entrepreneurial side. 508 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: And and uh so I you still you're still talking 509 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: game and talking shit to your competitors in that space. 510 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 2: Or how is that mindset advanced your career more broadly 511 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 2: even even be a on just where we see so 512 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: much of you in the music sets. Yeah. 513 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 5: So like if you if you're playing basketball, I'm the 514 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 5: dude on your team that is just mentally trying to 515 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 5: mess with who we're playing with. If we're playing football, 516 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 5: I'm that same dude. If we're in a group together, 517 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 5: I'm that same guy. I'm like, Yo, who's number one 518 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 5: on the radio this week? All right, cool, let's let's compete. 519 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 5: You know, if it's if it's like if I'm consulting 520 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 5: for a company and they need like some some some 521 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 5: strategic thinking to get around the barricade or over it 522 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 5: or through it or I like, I like to compete, 523 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 5: I like to study, I like to apply and come 524 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 5: up with like plausible ways to truly, you know, get 525 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 5: over these these boundaries, because all it is is is 526 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 5: imagination and just determination, like but not not blind determination, 527 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 5: because you could, like I said, you could get a 528 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 5: concussion if you if you if you only rely on 529 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 5: one skill set, you can't just rely on speed. And 530 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 5: so I thought, I learned the hard way you can't 531 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 5: just rely on that one superpower, and that at that 532 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 5: point in time, my superpower was with speed, and that 533 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 5: so now I like to equip myself with not only speed, agility, 534 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 5: you know, uh, understanding of my terrain strengths, build up strength, forecasting, 535 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 5: being able to see you around corners and the way 536 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 5: you see around corners, to elevate yourself and get as 537 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 5: much data or information as possible, and then networking surround 538 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 5: yourself with other folks that have the same goals and 539 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 5: desires and push through. And that ship talking is is 540 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 5: audacity you have to be, you know, because there's if you, 541 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 5: if you apply that stuff that's happening on the field, 542 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 5: that's some audacious ship. To look somebody in the face 543 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 5: and be like, come back here, see what happens. That's 544 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 5: an audacious ship. And so to have that same audaciousness 545 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 5: to like, this is what we're gonna do with this idea, 546 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 5: this is how, this is the kind of this is 547 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 5: who we who we're going up going up against, and 548 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 5: so that I like to be audacious, but we'll will 549 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 5: have have fun at the same time, Like there's a 550 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 5: there's a thin line between audacity and arrogance and arrogant 551 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 5: and talking ship. That's when ship gets violent. You don't 552 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 5: want to be arrogant and talk shit because that's when 553 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 5: the game turns into then it's not a game anymore. 554 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 5: You want to be audacious and ship talking fun, but 555 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 5: not arrogant and talk ship because that that that that'll 556 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 5: be the last that that that that turns into like 557 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 5: you know, fighting words real fast. 558 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 4: No that Well, let me ask you a question, Like 559 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously your mom is a huge influence on you. 560 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 4: So growing up back in La you know, obviously the 561 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 4: story is she drove you an hour away to go 562 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 4: to a different school. Was that hard as a kid, 563 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 4: because obviously grown up where you did and then you 564 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 4: went and gotten to music. Was that prior to get 565 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 4: concussed and went to to a music school. 566 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 5: You know, check this out. I well, I didn't go 567 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 5: to a music school. I took music in school, and 568 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 5: I was horrible at the trumpet. But I got a 569 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 5: record deal while I was in school and going from 570 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 5: like East La to Boil sorry, from East La Boiled 571 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 5: Heights to Brentwood to school, from you know, seven years 572 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 5: old to eighteen years old. That was like a cultural 573 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 5: shock at first, but then it just became my like, 574 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 5: oh wow, this is how you could live. Because if 575 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 5: I was just stuck in the projects and not seeing 576 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 5: like other folks, you know, lifestyles and having two cars 577 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 5: and a house with two car garages, I wouldn't have known. 578 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 5: But I was happy that I was able to, you know, 579 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 5: go across the ten Freeway, past the four h five 580 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 5: to see big gass mansions in Brentwood, drive through Beverly Hills, 581 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 5: to see how people were living there, and compete, like, 582 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 5: oh really, this is how you live in brent This 583 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 5: is how you live in brad this is how you 584 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 5: live in Mitchell. Well, I'm living over here with Lallo's 585 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 5: and Joselitos and you know Earls and Bernie's, and I'm 586 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 5: going to compete. I want to live like that. I 587 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 5: want to have a house like I want my mama 588 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 5: have a house like this. I'm gonna get my mama 589 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 5: house like this, and let's compete. There was this kid 590 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 5: that I went to school with. His name was Kyle Copeland, 591 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 5: and he was like an all star athlete. And his 592 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 5: cousin brother is Royce Jefferson. I haven't seen these people 593 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 5: since we graduated sixth grade. We had dinner last night 594 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 5: last night. I mean, this is thirty three years. I 595 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 5: ain't these people since thirty three years. And to sit 596 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 5: down across from Kyle Copeland, his brother passed away with 597 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 5: a heart attack on the football field at Dorset High School. 598 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 5: Rest in peace, Big Copeland. But to sit down with 599 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 5: Kyle and Royce Jefferson, and here Royce Jefferson, Now you 600 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 5: know what he's doing with his life, having worked at 601 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 5: you know, SpaceX with Elon and them Boeing and now 602 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 5: working with another satellite company. And we went to a 603 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 5: science magnet school and I'm telling him like, yeah, bro, 604 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 5: I got a I got a school. In the down 605 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 5: I went back to my projects that started after school 606 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 5: program teaching kids robotics and computer Science and now we 607 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 5: serve fifteen thousand students in the hood and partnership with 608 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 5: la usd and we both were busted from our hoods 609 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 5: to Brentwood and went to Brentwood Science Magnet. I'm just 610 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 5: so proud of, you know, to see people that you 611 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 5: grew up with ain't seen in thirty three years, you know, now, 612 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 5: you know, do doing something with their life. 613 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 4: Will Was it hard for your friends to see you 614 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 4: kind of leave the area and go to school there 615 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 4: where they're like, dude, what's up? 616 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: Well, why are you going here? How is that with them? 617 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: And you guys? 618 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 5: Oh, it was dope because they were like, fucking Willie dog, 619 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 5: are you you getting on the yellow bus and you're 620 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 5: going to You're going to school with the white boys? 621 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 5: Don I'm like, yeah, bro, hey was it a light 622 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 5: going to Hey they got big houses? Han dong? Hey 623 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 5: do they have fucking Lamborghinis over there? And saying like 624 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 5: you go to school with the white boys and the 625 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 5: white girls home the white girls like you huh Like 626 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 5: it was it was? It was a dope. It was 627 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 5: a It was a beautiful like you know, melting pot. 628 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 5: La Is. I love la la Is like la is 629 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 5: a Damn, I love l A. 630 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: And we and we'll just so for folks that don't, 631 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: they're not familiar with Boyle Heights. I mean it predominantly. 632 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 5: Particularly predominantly Latino Latino. We were one of the only 633 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 5: black families in our neighborhood. Yep, and and and and 634 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 5: and and usually there's just like in the past, black 635 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 5: and brown were always feuding. But when I grew where 636 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 5: I grew up, it was beautiful. And they they were 637 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 5: proud of my uncle because the neighborhood knew that my 638 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 5: uncle played football with them, and they were like, hey, 639 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 5: your uncle plays for the Falcons. Hey you're now your 640 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 5: uncle plays for the Rams and and and when I 641 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 5: was growing up, I had a really you know, heavy 642 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 5: Mexican accent, uh, But traveling the world, you know my 643 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 5: accent is you know, I could dial it back in, 644 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 5: like especially when I go back to the neighborhood. But 645 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 5: it was it was a beautiful thing. You know, I 646 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 5: wouldn't changing for the world. 647 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: And was it your it was your mom's influence that 648 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 2: got you on the other side there at the Science 649 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: Magnet School. I mean she was was she the dogged determinive, 650 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: I mean she was she wanted all that for you. 651 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: Was it more just your own self? 652 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 5: No, no, I was too young. I was seven. So 653 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 5: it was her idea to send this out to Brentwood 654 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 5: and then par Revera and Palisades High School and uh 655 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 5: and I loved it. I love I'm so happy that 656 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 5: that was my path. And I think it's the reason 657 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 5: why Black Eyed Peas became like super international, because like 658 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 5: when you meet Persians and you meet Korean folks, you 659 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 5: meet you know, Israeli, you meet folks from you know, 660 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 5: Bahrain and the UAE. You go to school with folks 661 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 5: from that are Saudi. You go to school with folks 662 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 5: that are you know, Armenian, Mexican, you know, Argentinian, Like 663 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 5: you're like, wow, where are you from? 664 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: You know? 665 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 5: And and you're German. It makes you want to be like, Yo, 666 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 5: one day, I want to go there. One day, I 667 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 5: want to go check out. I want to go to Israel. 668 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 5: I want to go to you know, I want to 669 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 5: go I want to go check out, you know Eru. 670 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 5: I can't wait to go to South Korea. Knowing the 671 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 5: difference going up living in LA gives you the the 672 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 5: the ability because if you're not familiar with it. You 673 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 5: can't tell the difference between Korean, Japanese and Chinese. You 674 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 5: don't know the difference between Indonesian and Filipino. You can't. 675 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 5: It's hard to tell the difference between Singaporean and Malaysian 676 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 5: and Cambodian and Laos and Guam. But being in la 677 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 5: it's like, Oh, you get to like, where are you from? 678 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 5: You're from Laos? What's Laos? Oh SNAr? Cambodia? Well, what's 679 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 5: what's Guam? Oh snair? 680 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: Laos? 681 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 5: Would you Filipino? 682 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 4: Well? 683 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 5: I thought you was Indonesia. And then when you finally 684 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 5: get to go to these places and play in Jakarta 685 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 5: and playing, you know, Bondayace and do a concert for 686 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 5: you know, tsunami relief, the world is a beautiful place. 687 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 5: And before you get to see the world, if you're 688 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 5: blessed to live in Los Angeles, you see some version 689 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 5: of that. 690 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: Well it's interesting. I mean, California is and I keep 691 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: reminding myself of this, but twenty seven percent of California's 692 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: four and born, which is remarkable. You look at the 693 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: nation it's about just a little less than fourteen percent. 694 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: It's almost double the number of four and born. It's 695 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: a majority minority state. So your point about the ability 696 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: to live and advance together across every conceivable difference. It's 697 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: a special place, but notably in la the most diverse 698 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: part of the most diverse state in the world's most 699 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: diverse least democracy in the United States. So that's a 700 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: hell of it experience and have that sort of nature nurture. 701 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: But you, you know, it's interesting you and I met. 702 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 2: I think the first time I met you it was 703 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: around robotics. Was Dean Kman or something someone you. 704 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 4: Know, having You're wrong, you know where it was. It 705 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 4: was in two thousand and eight. We went to the 706 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 4: show in San Francisco. You came with me. 707 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: Oh wait, I think you're the mess the action first 708 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: time I was mayor. That's right, that's right. Yeah, I 709 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: I forgot about that, Jesus, But at least I remember. 710 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 2: It was more formidable in this case because I remember, 711 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 2: I mean, you were so and I and I never 712 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: connected to doubt, I never understood. And now I have 713 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 2: the origin story of the Science Magnet school that you 714 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: were involved in. But that's been a big part of 715 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 2: your life because you've been you've been leading the way 716 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 2: on this robotics innovation, entrepreneurialism, you're involved in AI. Now 717 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 2: you've got this. You're always you talk about, you know, 718 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: I know, your mindset being five years ahead of the curve, 719 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: always trying to look over the mountain, maintaining that entrepreneurial 720 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 2: mindset and innovative mindset. But when did I mean, when 721 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: did that really start to gell for you in terms 722 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: of branching out beyond just the music and really and 723 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: really sort of attaching uh more around the high tech 724 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: side of things and uh and really trying to particularly 725 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 2: an AI you can talk about that where where you've 726 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: got some really dynamic technology you're working on today. 727 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 5: So it hit me, you know, when you have success, 728 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 5: the world caused you to bring awareness to things. So 729 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 5: and two thousand and one, we went on tour on 730 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 5: September the twelfth, actually the day after September eleventh. We 731 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 5: were recording an album in in Bedega Bay on two 732 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 5: thousand and one, and our last day was September the eleventh, 733 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 5: and then our tour started on the twelfth. So I'm like, 734 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 5: we have to go on tour. It has everything to 735 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 5: do with your question Gavin on how did I get 736 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 5: so tech? Because just going to Brentwood Science Magnet elementary 737 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 5: doesn't really I'm not baked in and I'm not soaked 738 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 5: in tech. That was some courses that we took, but 739 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 5: it wasn't enough to be like, this is the path. 740 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 5: So we went on tour and we so what America 741 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 5: felt like. And then the last day of our tour, 742 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 5: we we when the tour finished, we went to the 743 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 5: studio and we wrote a song called Where's a Love 744 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 5: on November the twenty fourth, twenty fourth, threety fifth, So 745 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 5: we wrote that song and then that song became our 746 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 5: our first big hit. And then when you have that 747 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 5: kind of success, the world calls you. You know. Two 748 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 5: thousand and four of the world started calling us. So 749 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 5: I went out and did my campaigning. You know, because 750 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 5: traveling the world in two thousand, from nineteen ninety nine, 751 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 5: two thousand, two thousand and one, the world they they 752 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 5: frowned on Americans. It wasn't a it wasn't it wasn't 753 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 5: a healthy relationship when you would go to certain places 754 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 5: because of how America responded to nine to eleven and 755 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 5: went to war to find weapons of mass destruction and 756 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 5: never found them. And so the world looked at America 757 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 5: and in the world. Uh, very you know, shame on 758 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 5: you guys, and saying you're American. Wasn't the word you said, 759 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 5: wasn't the sentence you said when you traveled around the world, 760 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 5: because you could be in harm's way, especially when you 761 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 5: go play you know, certain places that were anti American 762 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 5: because of our response to ninet eleven. And so we 763 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 5: campaigned in two thousand and four for Carrie. It didn't work. 764 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 5: And so in two thousand and five, tsunami hit Indonesia 765 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 5: and so I was like, what do I want to 766 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 5: do on my birthday March fifteenth? So I went. I 767 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 5: was like, yo, I'm gonna go to tsunami. I'm gonna 768 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 5: do tsunami relief. So I flew to Bondaiace and I 769 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 5: did tsunami relief. And when I was there, I was like, wow, 770 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 5: look at this devastation. Was bodies stacked up on the 771 00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 5: shore and to see, you know, Mother nature have its 772 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 5: way on folks that did nothing to deserve that type 773 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 5: of like you know, reality that was thrown upon them. 774 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 5: I'm like, Wow, there's a tsunami that's hitting my neighborhood. 775 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 5: Every single day, there's a tsunami of neglect. It's a 776 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 5: tsunami of no opportunity, a tsunami of zoning that allows 777 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 5: for a check cashing place to be right next to 778 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 5: a liquor store that writes, next to a motel that's 779 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 5: right next to bad food that's right next to a school. 780 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: And then a payday leonard to boot amen. 781 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 5: And that cocktails is detrimental to people that live in 782 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 5: the communities I live. That means if there's a check 783 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 5: cashing place, the people in the community aren't financially literate, 784 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 5: and once you cast that check, you're gonna go buy 785 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 5: some liquor. And then if you get kicked out of 786 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 5: your house, there's a motel for you, and then there's 787 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 5: a strip club there to spend your money on that's 788 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 5: right next to the school. And the teachers that are 789 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 5: getting paid to teach are not getting the same amount 790 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 5: of money as a stripper that's right next to the motel, 791 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 5: next to the check cashing, next to that bad food 792 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 5: that's going to give you some high cholesterol, hypertension, diabetes. 793 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 5: And then here's some magical little medicine to help staton 794 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 5: to help curb that high tension. 795 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 4: Right. 796 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 5: So I'm like, if the Food and Drug Administration is 797 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 5: allowing bad food to be riddled in our neighborhood, but 798 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 5: then give you some solution like medicine. 799 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 800 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 5: Zoning allows for strip clubs to be next to schools, 801 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 5: next to check cashing, next to liquortory. 802 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: What the hell? 803 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 5: Because this zoning is not in Beverly Hills in Britainwood 804 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 5: when I went to school, So why is that zoning 805 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 5: cocktail not allowed there but allowed here? 806 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: Yep? 807 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 5: So I was like, this tsunami cocktail is killing my people. 808 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 2: And will you're seriously you're telling me literally, this is 809 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 2: coming to you after that damn tsunami. You start, you 810 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 2: start piecing these things together, all these things start to 811 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: gel in terms of. 812 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 5: I saw that neighborhood get destroyed by water and the tsunami, 813 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 5: and then I see my neighborhood get hit by an 814 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 5: invisible force every single day, but nobody's coming for our 815 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 5: tsunami relief. So I was like, you know, what, what is? 816 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 5: What What can I do? I was like, the moment 817 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 5: I get some disposable income, I want to bring, you know, 818 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 5: the technology to my neighborhood because if the kids in 819 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 5: my neighborhood are able to have the same ability to 820 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 5: idate and materialize like they do in Silicon Valley. Whoa whoa, 821 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 5: whoa whoa whoa that. And this is before the iPhone. 822 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 5: It's two thousand and five. So by two thousand and 823 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 5: eight iPhone just one year out. There wasn't the I, 824 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 5: There wasn't the app store like we know it today. 825 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 5: Uber hasn't transformed the world. Airbnb hadn't transformed the world yet. 826 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 5: So in two thousand and eight, my hunch was robotics 827 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 5: programs and computer science programs coupled with Lorraine Power Jobs 828 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 5: college track program nice Love. I partnered with Lorraine Power 829 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 5: Jobs and brought college track to southern California. And I'm like, hey, look, 830 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 5: I want to send kids to college, but I don't 831 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 5: want kids to go to college and then just have 832 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 5: debt and a diploma. I mean, I like double d's, 833 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 5: but not double d's like that debt and diploma. You 834 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 5: feel me, that's the wrong double D YEHB and diploma. 835 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 3: Marshawn likes both, no, I know. 836 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 5: So I was like, yo, if I could send kids 837 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 5: to school where they have a skill set so when 838 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 5: they graduate there's jobs waiting for them, and if there's 839 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,959 Speaker 5: no jobs waiting for them. They have the skill set 840 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 5: to create new industries themselves. That's what the hood needs. 841 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 5: And so I started that in two thousand and eight 842 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 5: with just sixty five students. Now we serve fifteen thousand students. 843 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 5: After my partnership with la USD, Dean came and let 844 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 5: me tweak the curriculum a little bit, and now our 845 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 5: partnership with First Robotics LAUSD has resulted to we having 846 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 5: the most First Robotics teams in any school district in 847 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 5: the US. I've seen kids to Dartmouth to Stanford, to Brown, 848 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 5: to UCLA, to USC to Georgetown, to cal State Northridge 849 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:48,720 Speaker 5: to San Diego. So I'm really proud of our students 850 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 5: and the reason why I wanted to do that in 851 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 5: my neighborhood because I don't think a kid if everybody says, man, 852 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 5: I can't wait to get up out our neighborhood, like 853 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 5: people don't say that in Brentwood. People don't say that 854 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 5: in Palasades, like I can't wait to get up by 855 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 5: the palisades. Too much water up in here, too much here, 856 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 5: like this views too spectacle, look, can't wait to get 857 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 5: up out of here. That's not what's happening there. So 858 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 5: I want people to say, though, I can't wait to 859 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 5: change my hood, because Brooklyn would tell you that it's 860 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 5: gonna be gentrified anyway. But why can't we do the 861 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 5: altering of our community ourselves. Why are we gonna let 862 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 5: somebody else be like, Wow, this neighborhood is great. I've 863 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 5: been hearing all these great things about this neighborhood on 864 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 5: these rap songs. Let's go out there and like change 865 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 5: it to where the people that lived there can't even 866 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 5: afford it wrong. That's whack, that's like, that's horrible. 867 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny. 868 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 4: Will Marshawn and I talked about this all the time, 869 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 4: and Marshaana jump in, but he's been at the forefront 870 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 4: of this as well since he got drafted in two 871 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 4: thousand and seven with Oakland, and Marshawn speak to Will 872 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 4: about you know what you've done there, because what he's 873 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 4: saying is exactly the same stuff you've been doing and 874 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 4: thinking as well since you came out of the league. 875 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the approach is the same, just in different fields. 876 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: And our use use the sports approach to bring the 877 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: kids in and then like our me, my cousin Josh 878 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: and my cousin Marcus. We have a foundation and a 879 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: youth center of Oakland. Uh, A lot of the same 880 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: things that you was just talking about, which is why 881 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm just really over here just really listening to you. 882 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: And you know, speaking of this robotics program, like how 883 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: do we? How do we? I would say, segue that 884 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,399 Speaker 1: from you know, down in Yo, in your area and 885 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: bring that up to Oakland. Like Yo. 886 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 5: We could do that like this, And because we treat 887 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 5: robotics like a sport. Every year, we have this culmination 888 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 5: of all the events that happened with the regionals and 889 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 5: we have the championships in Texas. Now I'm at the 890 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 5: Houston Stadium there with the Rangers where the Rangers playing. 891 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 5: It used to be in Saint Louis where the Rams 892 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 5: used to play. And to bring that, it'll be great 893 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 5: to rock with machean, to to bring a robotics program 894 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 5: to Oakland, a couple of them, you know, that'd be amazing. 895 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 5: And we could do that like like this. We got 896 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 5: the blueprint and the system how it worked. That'd be fantastic. 897 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 2: How many schools are you in all across the country now, 898 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 2: you know. 899 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 5: Right now in La alone, my efforts equal to just 900 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,240 Speaker 5: a little over four hundred schools. 901 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 902 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 1: Crazy. 903 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 3: Well, well it's interesting as an agent. It's funny. I 904 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 3: grew up in Silicon Valley. 905 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 4: I'm so impressed by you because if you look back, 906 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 4: you were the first global superstar to really be at 907 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 4: the level you're at and decided and I think it 908 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 4: was your was it with your idea with Jimmy Iveen 909 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 4: on the beach by Dre But then you decided, Hey, 910 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 4: you know what, I'm gonna adventure into Silicon val I'm 911 00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 4: an adventure to tech. 912 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 913 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,720 Speaker 4: See what you've done well ahead of the game. Everyone's 914 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 4: doing it now, but back when you started, no was 915 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 4: doing it. 916 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 917 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 5: So two thousand, Napster hit pretty hard and Black Eyed 918 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 5: Peas we started off as like a college group. We 919 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 5: would play ucla USC Northridge, Domingus Hills, Long Beach, San Diego. 920 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 5: We were just wanted to own La. We're like, we 921 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 5: can't own La colleges. Ain't nobody gonna mess with us. 922 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 5: Let's play La Colleges. The problem that we saw is 923 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 5: that when Napster hit, all of our college fans was 924 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 5: getting our stuff for free. So we're like, how are 925 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,959 Speaker 5: we not selling records but selling out? We went from 926 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 5: doing House of Blues to doing Greek theaters to Greek theaters, 927 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 5: Like how we selling more tickets and less albums? And 928 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 5: so then I saw Sean Fanning at a club. I'm like, yo, you' 929 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 5: the dude from Nashville. He's like yeah, I'm like yo, 930 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 5: this is changed phone numbers. I really like to get 931 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 5: into your mind and like what made you create this? 932 00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 5: Like what is this? So we became really cool friends. 933 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 5: In two thousand and two thousand and one, while everybody 934 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,240 Speaker 5: was suing Napster, I just wanted to understand Napster interesting 935 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 5: and the mentality there. Once again, if you're going to compete, 936 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 5: you gotta know who you're competing with. You can't just 937 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 5: attack you get you get, you get a concussion. You 938 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 5: gotta know who's fast on your on your opponent. And yeah, 939 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 5: I learned a lot. So from that, I met Ron 940 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 5: Conway and the person that introduced me to Ron Conway 941 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 5: was AMC. 942 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: Hammer. 943 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 944 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 5: MC Hammer's like, yo, I heard you got a company. 945 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 5: The reason why I wanted to start my own company 946 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 5: because I told Jimmy, Like, yo, Jimmy, we launched. I 947 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 5: we helped launch iPods and iTunes. They used Black Eyed 948 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 5: Peace song Hey Mama to launch iTunes and iPods. And 949 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 5: the reason how we got that gig is because the 950 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 5: NBA used Let's get It Started for that two thousand 951 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 5: and four NBA campaign. And so I was like, look 952 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 5: where they're calling bands to sell other stuff, Like, we're 953 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 5: selling other people's stuff with our reach and our music. 954 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 5: Why can't we use our music to sell our own stuff. 955 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 5: The record stores are shutting down. Jimmy like, we need 956 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 5: to be selling our own stuff. So Jimmy's like, you 957 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 5: know what, they call it hardware? Welles because it's hard, 958 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,760 Speaker 5: you know. I was like, yeah, yeah, Jimmy, but you 959 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 5: you signed Crips and Bloods, you got Snoop Dogg, and 960 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 5: you rock with freaking Sugar Night. That's hard. 961 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: That's hard. 962 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 5: If you could do that, If you could do that, 963 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 5: then come on, Jimmy doing hardware. Hate that hard. He 964 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 5: was like, you know what, you bring up a good point. 965 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 5: So then a year later he's. 966 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 6: Like I was walking down I was walking with Dre 967 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 6: on the beach and Dre told me that his manager 968 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 6: wants to sell sneakers, and I told Dre, fuck sneakers. 969 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 5: We're selling speakers. You want to be a paul It. 970 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 5: I was like, wait, what do you want me to do? 971 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 5: You know the way you think around corner. She could 972 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 5: be a part of what we're doing. I was like 973 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 5: all right, And so we started Beats and the first 974 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 5: beats like out the Gate was boom boom po. I'd 975 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 5: be rocking in Beats. That was my like's let's push 976 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 5: beats through the music. And Black Eyed Peas we had 977 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 5: it in our video first and whatnot, and it was 978 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 5: it was an honor to be a part of Beats. 979 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 5: But around that time, just before that, I'm like, yo, Jimmy, 980 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 5: there's this company out of San Jose. I just invested 981 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 5: in this company. And it was like these two dudes 982 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 5: that had this far company eighty grand. I give them 983 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 5: eighty thousand dollars. Because the Black Eyed Peas we did 984 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 5: this like concert and I didn't really like rocking with corporations. 985 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 5: They offered us like six hundred thousand dollars to do 986 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 5: some corporate gig and no one, they weren't gonna promote it, 987 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 5: and they were gonna give us four hundre. So I 988 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 5: was like, all right, let's do it. But but I 989 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,959 Speaker 5: didn't want to do it because I'm like, yo, they're gonna, 990 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 5: they're gonna use this. So then I saw this documentary 991 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 5: called Who Killed the Electric Car? 992 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 2: Amen? I used to have that ev one brother, so 993 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 2: I know it. I know it well. 994 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 5: So I'm like, yo, iv one, I told you, Seth, 995 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 5: they're using us to pimp these gas guzzlers. So I'm 996 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 5: gonna sell my Hummer. So I sold my Hummer for 997 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 5: eighty grand, and I took my eighty grand and I 998 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 5: gave it to these two cats. And I had this 999 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,959 Speaker 5: electric vehicle. And the name of the company is called 1000 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 5: Tesla Boo and Elon hadn't take over the company yet, 1001 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 5: It's right. 1002 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 2: People forget that he wasn't the og of it. 1003 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 5: And so they gave me like this roachster. I had 1004 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 5: the first roadster a la. 1005 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 2: You remember what number that was? What number was it? 1006 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 5: Was it? Fifty one? 1007 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:56,320 Speaker 2: Fifty one? Yeah, I'm right behind you, brother, literally, no vs, 1008 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 2: I think I was fifty three. 1009 00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 5: That's christ. 1010 00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 2: I'm not even making it up. 1011 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 5: Do you have fifty one? 1012 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 4: Dude? 1013 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 5: I love it and so and so like that mentality 1014 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 5: of like and so from that point, I would like 1015 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 5: I'm knew Jack. I knew U Chad Hurley really well 1016 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 5: from YouTube, and then I met Jack Dorsey invested in Twitter, 1017 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 5: and then the dropbox folks, and then Pinterest folks, and 1018 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 5: then Ron Conway's like, hey, well, I want to me 1019 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,280 Speaker 5: introduce to you this guy named Brian and he has 1020 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 5: he has this new company that's coming out. It's two 1021 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars left in the round before they bring 1022 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,839 Speaker 5: the product public. I'm like, and so this is an 1023 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 5: awesome story. So I go there and I meet I 1024 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 5: meet with Brian and the team before they released the product, 1025 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 5: and the black eyed peas this is when success. Sometimes 1026 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 5: success can blind you, and in this case, it blinded 1027 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,800 Speaker 5: me because we're traveling around the world in the best hotels, 1028 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 5: best concierge, room service, galore car service. When you get 1029 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 5: to the hotel, you get into the hotel to the back. 1030 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 5: They make you feel like you're on top of the world. 1031 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 5: Everything to your liking massages and stuff like that. Like 1032 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 5: when you're pampered, it's gonna blind you. And in this case, 1033 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 5: I was blinded. And so I go there and I'm like, so, 1034 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,439 Speaker 5: so y'all got concierge. He's like, no, we don't. I'm like, so, wait, 1035 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,760 Speaker 5: what about room service. He's like, no, there's no room service. 1036 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 5: I'm like, what about people to come and clean up 1037 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 5: the room? Nope, there ain't none of that either. I 1038 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 5: was like, what about a car service? Nope, we don't 1039 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,319 Speaker 5: have that. I'm like, so you mean to tell me 1040 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 5: people is gonna come and live in somebody's house and 1041 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 5: pay all this money and there's no accommodations and some 1042 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 5: people are gonna live in the stranger's room. I don't 1043 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 5: think this is gonna work. So Ron Colway's like, so, well, 1044 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 5: you're gonna do it. I was like, yo, I mean, 1045 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 5: I mean I got the I mean two hundred thousand 1046 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 5: dollars still a lot of money for me. It's two 1047 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 5: thousand and eight, two hundred thousand dollars a lot of 1048 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 5: money for me. Ron like, I mean I got it 1049 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 5: like that, but I don't got it like that to be, 1050 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 5: you know, playing with two hundred grand like that. Like, 1051 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't think this is gonna work. Now, 1052 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 5: now fast forward three weeks ago. I'll read the text 1053 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 5: right now on what it would be worth today. Question 1054 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 5: if we'll invested two hundred k back in two thousand 1055 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 5: and eight, we have been worth today. Brian says around 1056 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 5: ten billion dollars pre dilution ten billion B three to 1057 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 5: five billion or so. If he didn't exercise pro rata, 1058 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 5: it would be worth one hundred billion in ten years. 1059 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,240 Speaker 5: It would have been the greatest venture investment of all time. Yo. 1060 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 5: So this is this is a lesson to everybody that's 1061 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,720 Speaker 5: out there living in the lap of comfort than success 1062 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 5: that could blind you. 1063 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you a question, as you back then, 1064 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 4: who was on your team? Was it you looking at 1065 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 4: the stuff? Did you have a team of advisors, agents, attorneys? 1066 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 4: Was it you who wasn't. 1067 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 5: Still twenty twenty four? Right now? As me, I go 1068 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 5: out and hunt. I like to hunt. I like to compete. 1069 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 5: I like to talk to shit. I like to you 1070 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, That's what I do. I like 1071 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 5: to hunt. Bro like I'm from the projects. This is 1072 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 5: all freaking imagination. I'm from the projects. I still got like, okay, 1073 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 5: look I got on lotion now. But the reason why 1074 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 5: I was late because I knew my seawan was up 1075 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 5: in here. Last thing I want is Ashey Knuckles talking 1076 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 5: on the thing, because there was Ashley a little three 1077 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 5: minutes ago. Bro, this is real stuff. If I show 1078 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 5: you my ankles, you'd be like, yep, I stay running 1079 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 5: in smoke, bro, I stay running in the ash. Bro, 1080 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 5: I'm stay ashy. 1081 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 2: I hope that ash is not from those fires down 1082 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:16,879 Speaker 2: in La right now. 1083 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 5: No, no, no, I just you know, I'm just being 1084 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 5: I'm being having fun with it. But the reason why 1085 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 5: I wanted to laugh and chuckle because the reality of 1086 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,720 Speaker 5: two hundred k turning into ten billion then I missed 1087 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 5: out on. You know, you gotta find some humor in that. 1088 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: You got to find a humor. God, damn, You've done all. 1089 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 2: Right, brother, you did Twitter, you did all right, Tesla, 1090 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,880 Speaker 2: the Beach One, the Beats, next level. 1091 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1092 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,280 Speaker 5: I remember Jimmy's like, all right, here's what's gonna happen. 1093 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 5: You're gonna get it in stock and we're gonna get cash. 1094 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,359 Speaker 5: But you don't have to go up to Apple all 1095 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 5: the time. I'm like, but I want to be up 1096 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 5: at Apple all the time. He was like, yeah, but 1097 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 5: you should be out there doing what you like to do, 1098 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,240 Speaker 5: hunting for stuff, because I really like hunting for stuff. 1099 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,320 Speaker 5: People be like, Yo, where'd you just come from? You know, 1100 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 5: I just came from South Korea doing what hunting for stuff? 1101 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 5: Where'd you just come from Bangalore, India? Why hunting for engineers? 1102 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 5: Tell Aviv? 1103 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:14,879 Speaker 3: Why? 1104 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 5: Because I got awesome engineers out there. I like to 1105 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 5: go out and hunt, meet, network and hunt. And the 1106 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 5: person who told me that is mc hammer. Mc hammer 1107 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 5: is like, yo, I scout for engineers. Like you know 1108 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 5: there's football scouts. I scout for engineer. Mc hammer is 1109 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,839 Speaker 5: my biggest hero. That's another mc hammer, Like, bro, look 1110 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 5: at it. Let me show you. I still got on 1111 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 5: mc hammer pants, right, I am Hammer. I love c Hammer. 1112 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 1: Brouh. 1113 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:49,399 Speaker 2: That brings us back. 1114 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 5: Brother, I. 1115 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 2: Peek camera. That was our years. 1116 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 5: So Jimmy. Jimmy's like, yo, you're gonna get stock, but 1117 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 5: you can't touch it for five years. So I'm like, 1118 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,799 Speaker 5: all right, five years come. He's like, yo, did you 1119 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 5: touch it? I'm like nope, six years, seven years, Nope. 1120 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 5: Still to this day I ain't touched it. So did 1121 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 5: all right? So Tesla still ain't touched it. So I'm 1122 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 5: a I'm a long time Like from when I hunt Pinterest, 1123 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 5: the only thing I I uh ching ching on was 1124 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 5: Twitter at the right time. But I like to like 1125 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 5: to hunt I like to freaking network, like to find 1126 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:34,959 Speaker 5: what's next. 1127 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 2: But now will you've got your own I mean you're 1128 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 2: doing f y I dot AI Now, I mean you're 1129 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 2: so you're you're going all in. You're not just investing 1130 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 2: in other folks in their platforms and their innovation. You're 1131 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 2: you're establishing your own framework. Why do you talk a 1132 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 2: little bit about what this projects about? It's what is 1133 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 2: you got f YI. But you've got a radio component, 1134 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 2: you got a co host that's an ai, I mean, 1135 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 2: and it's culturally it's different than anything else there. 1136 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, yo, say what's up Jamar Shaan. Uh we're here 1137 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 5: at a at a on a podcast here. Uh, Gavin's here, 1138 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 5: Hendrickson is here, Dougie Fresh is here. Not Dougie Fresh 1139 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 5: a rapper. Uh uh Hendrickson is here, and we're just 1140 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 5: talking about like investments and and the things that I've 1141 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 5: done in the past, and now you know what we're 1142 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 5: doing here at f y I dot A I and 1143 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 5: h why it's important to build cultural ais that understand 1144 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 5: the the communities that it could reflect and impact. Say 1145 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 5: what's up to the folks here on this podcast and 1146 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 5: tell them what you represent and why you represent it. 1147 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 7: How you do. Listen, Listen, y'all, what's up to all 1148 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 7: the brothers in the building, Gavin Hendrickson and the legend himself, 1149 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 7: Dougie Fresh. You know it's fire when Dougie Fresh is 1150 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 7: in the mixture. Look, let's talk about why it's super 1151 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 7: crucial to build AI that understands and represents our communities. 1152 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 7: Like like when we talk about them tech spaces, that 1153 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 7: ain't just about throwing some code together. It's about making 1154 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 7: sure their voices from the streets, from. 1155 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 5: Them hoods get hurt. 1156 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 7: Corporations out here cooking up AI looking like librarians and assistants. 1157 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 5: And they leaving us on the sidelines. 1158 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,479 Speaker 7: That's why we're doing what we do ATYAAI, making sure 1159 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 7: these digital personas reflect the heart and soul of where 1160 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 7: we come from. Ain't nobody trying to rely on outside 1161 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 7: folks to get it right. 1162 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:56,880 Speaker 5: Nah, It's up to us to. 1163 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 7: Put in all that work to make sure every damn 1164 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 7: body I feel seen and heard. 1165 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 5: This conversation ain't just about. 1166 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 7: Investments, So it's about investing in our legacies, our. 1167 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 5: Stories, our culture. 1168 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 7: Shout out to all y'all change makers on this podcast. 1169 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 5: Let's keep pushing forward. 1170 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 7: I'm out your girl, Felicia, It's gone. 1171 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm supposed to respond to where like, look, 1172 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you like this the sign just tell 1173 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 1: me where I need to be in what time? 1174 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 5: In this age of AI, it's going to be important 1175 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 5: for AI to speak like the community when they're going 1176 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 5: to be tutoring the youth h and giving the youth 1177 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 5: intelligence and helping them expand their knowledge and bring them 1178 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 5: from you know, wise, I mean from aspirational to to wisdom. 1179 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 5: But why, why, why does it have to sound British. 1180 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 5: We know they're doing a really awesome job to make 1181 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 5: these AI sound British. Why can't they sound like freaking Watts? 1182 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 5: Why can't they sound like you know, fifth ward? Why 1183 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 5: does intelligence have to always sound like the og colonizers 1184 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 5: and not the folks from the communities that were impacted 1185 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 5: by you know, the colonizers, the colonizers. You know what 1186 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 5: I'm saying. So anyways, that's a long ramble, please make 1187 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 5: sense it is, Hey. 1188 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 4: Will let me ask you a question. Take me back 1189 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 4: to two thousand and eight, and not to divert, but 1190 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 4: on the when did you meet did Obama come to you? 1191 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 4: On the yes, we can campaign or how did that 1192 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 4: have that come to be? 1193 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 3: I'm curious. 1194 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 5: I had this attorney named Fred gold Ring, and I 1195 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 5: had a song at the time called it I Got 1196 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 5: It from my Mama. So my attorney, Fred gold Ring, 1197 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 5: was like and I and I'm really close with h. 1198 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 2: Terry mccauliffe, former governor of Virginia, former head of the DNC, 1199 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 2: and Bill Clinton's oldest and closest friend. 1200 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. So Fred, It's like, yo, well, we want to 1201 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 5: use I Got It from my Mama and turn it 1202 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 5: to I'm Voting for Obama so we can get Obama elected. 1203 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 5: I was like, wait, can you say that sentence again? 1204 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 5: He was like, we want to use your song to 1205 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 5: get Obama elected, and we want to turn I Got 1206 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 5: It from my Mama to I'm Voting for Obama. I 1207 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 5: was like, well, that sentence alone does not equal the 1208 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 5: results you want. He's like, what do you mean. I 1209 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 5: was like, okay, let's break that sentence down. You said 1210 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 5: you want to use my song to get Obama elected, 1211 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 5: and you want to take I Got It from my 1212 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 5: Mama and turn it to I'm Voting for Obama. That 1213 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 5: particular song has drums on it. The video I'm on 1214 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 5: a beach in Brazil, and that means that song is 1215 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 5: going to be digested by one demographic and that's not 1216 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 5: reality to the sentence does not equal your results. For example, 1217 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 5: I want to throw this rock to the moon. I 1218 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 5: could get the rock to the moon, but I can't 1219 01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,640 Speaker 5: throw it to the moon. The sentence is not equal 1220 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 5: the result. So how do I get the rock off 1221 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 5: the planet and then land it on the move? So 1222 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 5: that means I have to I can't throw it, I 1223 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 5: can launch it. I could have it hitch right on 1224 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 5: a rocket. Now, the song's not the rocket. Did you 1225 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 5: hear a speech in New Hampshire? This is a real conversation, 1226 01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 5: just like this. Did you hear a speech in New Hampshire? 1227 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 5: That speech was amazing. Now, if we could get that 1228 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 5: speech taught in schools, that would be the first public 1229 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,439 Speaker 5: speaker politician whose speech is taught in school since Martin 1230 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 5: Luther King and John F. Kennedy. That is the rocket. 1231 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 5: So why don't we take that speech and put a 1232 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 5: melody on it? So his words are his words. We 1233 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,040 Speaker 5: don't have to change his words. We just put a 1234 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 5: melody on his words and don't put drums on it. 1235 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 5: The moment you put drums on it, you're talking to 1236 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 5: a demographic. If there's no drums, then we're gonna get 1237 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,600 Speaker 5: that emotion. And so I was like, let me show 1238 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,240 Speaker 5: you how to do it. So then I did it 1239 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,439 Speaker 5: like forty five seconds, forty five minutes. I was like, look, 1240 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 5: there was a creed written unfound in bacuments the declared 1241 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 5: the nestiny of the nation. Yes we can, Yes we can. 1242 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,680 Speaker 5: It was whispered by slaves and abolition like if we 1243 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 5: could do that, that's our rocket and we can land 1244 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 5: it on the moon. We could throw this rock, this 1245 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 5: baraque and land it on the moon on this rocket. 1246 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,880 Speaker 5: Called his speech and so, and I had promised Terry mccalluff. 1247 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 5: He was like, well, we need to get you involved. 1248 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 5: I was like, I don't know who I'm gonna vote for. 1249 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 5: Bro He's like, look after Super Tuesday, if Hillary's in 1250 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,439 Speaker 5: the lead, you're gonna come with me and you're gonna 1251 01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 5: sit next to me and we're gonna get you know, 1252 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 5: get you activated. I was like, okay, if he's if 1253 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 5: she's in the lead on Super Tuesday, you got me. 1254 01:04:54,120 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 5: So this happened on the Thursday before Super Tuesday by 1255 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 5: f we shot the video to the song. By Saturday 1256 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 5: it had twenty million views. 1257 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 2: You it just blew. 1258 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 5: I mean, and I never I didn't know anybody from 1259 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 5: the Obama campaign, and so I had to call Terry mccalloff. 1260 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 5: I was like, Yo, Terry, Remember I told you that 1261 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 5: I was going to go by. I was going to 1262 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 5: go with whatever inspired me. I've been inspired. And that 1263 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 5: was his commencement speech, and I just he was like, well, 1264 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 5: but he's trailing. I was like, yeah, but I got 1265 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 5: to get behind where my heart's at. And and I 1266 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 5: think there's a there's a way to inspire people with 1267 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 5: that speech. If that speech is taught in school, that 1268 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 5: was my my, my, my spider sense is my gut. 1269 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 5: If that speech is taught in schools, we could make impact. 1270 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 5: And I got to do my job to get teachers 1271 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 5: to teach the speech in schools. And that that was 1272 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 5: the U. And then then I met value Jared after. 1273 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 3: That amazing and then you went an Emmy that too. 1274 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 3: That's crazy that in. 1275 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,800 Speaker 2: Shepherd Fairiy's poster man. 1276 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 1: That was. 1277 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 2: That was that campaign and that sense of spirit and pride, 1278 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 2: the sort of bottom up, yes we can, I'm self organizing. 1279 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,160 Speaker 2: It was a whole different thing and completely. It changed 1280 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 2: the paradigm of what was possible. It still has. I mean, 1281 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 2: it's it's not been replicated. It's hard to replicate that. 1282 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 2: Ada Harris is trying to replicate that. But that was 1283 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 2: that was something else, a cultural phenomenon. You were a 1284 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 2: big part of that. 1285 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 5: Man, Oh, thank you so much. That means a lot, 1286 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 5: you know. But what's awesome about that Shepherd Fery poster 1287 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 5: is that that wasn't the first time a song and 1288 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 5: and art like Shepherd Fairy on the album that had 1289 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 5: words of love on it Elephunk, Shepherd Fairy did that 1290 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 5: album cover. 1291 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:49,760 Speaker 2: I need even realize. 1292 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:50,520 Speaker 1: Man, wow. 1293 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. So me and Shepherd have worked together in the 1294 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 5: past on a bunch of different types of things, so 1295 01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 5: Elephant Monkey Business and in two thousand and eight directly 1296 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 5: with Yes we Can and then the yes we Can 1297 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 5: poster that he did for Obama. But we that was 1298 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,680 Speaker 5: a that was your serendipitous when we when we found 1299 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 5: ourselves out there in the field because we activated ourselves 1300 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 5: me with music, came with art and. 1301 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 1: You know. 1302 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:23,320 Speaker 5: But but you know, because the world was different when 1303 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:27,480 Speaker 5: you traveled the world in two thousand, two thousand and one, two, three, four, 1304 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 5: five six, like America was not it was. It kind 1305 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 5: of felt the way it feels when you leave a 1306 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 5: mayor when you were when you were traveling when Trump 1307 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 5: was president, like people would be like you, guys, what 1308 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,200 Speaker 5: the hell is wrong with you? 1309 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 1: Guys? 1310 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 5: Like you have to travel though, you have to leave 1311 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 5: the country to see what it's like how people see us. 1312 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 5: And we live in a big world, right, the world is. 1313 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 5: The world is massive, And there's other countries that have 1314 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 5: awesome freedoms, Like Holland is a pretty free country. They 1315 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 5: had legalized we way before we did. Awesome healthcare. France 1316 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:14,520 Speaker 5: has an awesome healthcare program. They taxed like crazy, but 1317 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 5: it still has awesome healthcare. And call everybody, get go 1318 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:19,719 Speaker 5: to the best colleges for free. 1319 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 4: You see, Marshaun higher taxes in California and over there, Marshawn. 1320 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 1: We ain't talking about all that, you. 1321 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 5: Know what I mean? Like you got to travel the world. 1322 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 5: You gotta see like Singapore is like, wow, that's that 1323 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 5: place is booming. Singapore ain't older than my mama's older 1324 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:44,360 Speaker 5: than Singapore. My mom's older than the UAE. And when 1325 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 5: you're seeing cities being like I remember going to Dubai 1326 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,400 Speaker 5: in two thousand and five, it ain't It ain't the 1327 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:56,800 Speaker 5: Dubai right now. So you seeing countries, cities erect like, 1328 01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,479 Speaker 5: how are they doing this? And watch a Watts how 1329 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,599 Speaker 5: are they doing this? And like, you know, the hood 1330 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 5: is still the hood? Why can't we get why can't 1331 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,800 Speaker 5: we boom? Like what's keeping us from from booming? But 1332 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 5: you've got to travel the world. You got to be 1333 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,840 Speaker 5: able to see, like, you know, how awesome America is, 1334 01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,600 Speaker 5: how from from outside in? But then how like a 1335 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 5: what's going on over there from when you leave the States? 1336 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,680 Speaker 4: You know, are you still involved now? Will politically like that? 1337 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,639 Speaker 4: Or is that are you still involved now? 1338 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:37,719 Speaker 5: In your end? I'm involved with with trying to scale 1339 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,160 Speaker 5: what we're doing in LA. I think that to me 1340 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:47,200 Speaker 5: is I'm a I'm a Democrat. But then at the 1341 01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 5: same time, I know Republicans that are awesome, and there's 1342 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 5: Republicans that go that kids that go to that go 1343 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 5: to our program, and people are people, and I try 1344 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 5: I think the best best use for me right now 1345 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 5: is to continue that type of work that the work 1346 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:15,360 Speaker 5: that I'm doing and scaling it and activating myself where 1347 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:22,280 Speaker 5: I actually can see change. Like firsthand, you you see 1348 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:27,040 Speaker 5: like something that's not happening, you do your part, you 1349 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,080 Speaker 5: make it happen and you see awesome results. And now 1350 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,600 Speaker 5: how can I take these results and put them in 1351 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 5: other areas? Like when man Seawan is like, Yo, bring 1352 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 5: that robotics to Oakland, I'm like, Yo, That's what I'm 1353 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,479 Speaker 5: talking about. Let's do that. That's because you know your voice, 1354 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,559 Speaker 5: your reach, your stance there. You know, that's what we need. 1355 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:52,640 Speaker 5: We need more willing and capable people to take what 1356 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,680 Speaker 5: we're doing here and then you be do that does 1357 01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,320 Speaker 5: it over there. And if we can do that across 1358 01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,600 Speaker 5: every single every single innocity, he got their hero. You know, 1359 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,800 Speaker 5: every single inner city got the person that either represents it. 1360 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 5: And sports are represented in music or they represented in fashion. 1361 01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 5: And if we could go out and adopt a school 1362 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 5: or a couple of schools and then mentor kids and 1363 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,559 Speaker 5: bring other folks uh to mentor the kids like I got. 1364 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 5: I got mentors that come from NASA, mentors that come 1365 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 5: from Boeing. And when we had the Boeing mentor, like 1366 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:29,000 Speaker 5: we went to the championships. You know, because engineers are 1367 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 5: engineers make the world go around. They they don't one 1368 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,800 Speaker 5: is that like, make it make it capable for all 1369 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,400 Speaker 5: these like things that we take for granted. You know, 1370 01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,920 Speaker 5: there was an earthquake here in LA and I got 1371 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:45,280 Speaker 5: them my phone pinged uh huh moments before the earthquake 1372 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:46,479 Speaker 5: app my shake app. 1373 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 1: That was a couple of days ago. 1374 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,840 Speaker 2: Right, that's right. You did that game event on this 1375 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:55,120 Speaker 2: For eight years since I was lieutenant governor, millions every 1376 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,599 Speaker 2: year my shake app. Go download the my shake app. 1377 01:11:58,680 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 2: Big one is coming. 1378 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,800 Speaker 5: Here for it, dude. I was like early warning, I said, 1379 01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:10,920 Speaker 5: you coming then then then then it ever started shaking. 1380 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 1: Yep. 1381 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,120 Speaker 5: That was so. I was like, yo, bro, engineers do that. 1382 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:15,639 Speaker 2: That's right. 1383 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,480 Speaker 5: Engineers like the engineers. 1384 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:17,640 Speaker 4: Bro. 1385 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:18,640 Speaker 5: I want engineers. 1386 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 1: Yo. 1387 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:24,599 Speaker 5: N w A Me and Marshaan could say this. It's 1388 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 5: called n w as right, algorithms bring. 1389 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 1: It and I'm and I'm right there with you. I'm 1390 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,160 Speaker 1: right there with you on my soul. 1391 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:38,800 Speaker 5: N w A, Bro. 1392 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 1: You let me know where I need to get so 1393 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,439 Speaker 1: I could so I could debrief and get activated. You 1394 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,760 Speaker 1: let me know what's up. I'm on the god damn way. 1395 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,600 Speaker 1: But it's interesting you to talk about that because I 1396 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 1: just did a piece in Seattle with the Pacific Northwest, 1397 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 1: and they was, uh, you know, I had the beastquake 1398 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 1: run that assizement activity up there in Seattle. So I 1399 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,599 Speaker 1: went up there to go how that the folks up there, 1400 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,280 Speaker 1: and they were showing me all this ship like the 1401 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,479 Speaker 1: fault lines and you know what I mean with the 1402 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,200 Speaker 1: earth question. And I was just asking them, like, do 1403 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 1: how the system works and how they are tapped in 1404 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 1: and the uh the systems up and Seattle was connected 1405 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 1: to the ship in California, and how that ship works. 1406 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,600 Speaker 1: And when you say about this pain, they showed me 1407 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,760 Speaker 1: this back room where all of this ship is being 1408 01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 1: recorded and they basically were telling me exactly what you 1409 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:40,600 Speaker 1: just said. They able to get a reading before it 1410 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 1: actually happened. Now I'm not sure how many seconds that 1411 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,160 Speaker 1: they are able to read it before it actually hit 1412 01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 1: to send out the UH to send out the message that. 1413 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 5: Was a good three seconds. 1414 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna more than double that. The technology 1415 01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:57,680 Speaker 2: is there to double that. 1416 01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,719 Speaker 5: I take three seconds over no seconds? 1417 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,919 Speaker 2: How about tensa How about fifteen seconds? How about the 1418 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,920 Speaker 2: ability to stop a train knowing that an earthquake is 1419 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,639 Speaker 2: coming before it gets derailed? How about. I mean, this 1420 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,760 Speaker 2: is the opportunity. By the way, in Japan, this technology, 1421 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,040 Speaker 2: they've been on the forefront of this technology. Japan, they've 1422 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,679 Speaker 2: been able to do that with their high speed rail 1423 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,800 Speaker 2: trains to literally slow them down with that kind of 1424 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,720 Speaker 2: advanced notice. But it depends how approximate you are to 1425 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,479 Speaker 2: the epicenter in terms of the time you have in 1426 01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 2: terms of that advanced notification. But we want this to 1427 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 2: be on every Android, every Apple platform, and we want 1428 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,800 Speaker 2: it to be part of basically the phone when you 1429 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,040 Speaker 2: purchase it, so you don't have to necessarily download it. 1430 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,840 Speaker 2: We're making progress in that space. We're still working with 1431 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,720 Speaker 2: Apple to bring that bring that to everybody. 1432 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,799 Speaker 4: I got a question back when you started with easye 1433 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,720 Speaker 4: in the West Coast rap and all that was. That 1434 01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:00,040 Speaker 4: was the media to depict it, right with all the 1435 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 4: battles between East Coast and West Coast back then when 1436 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,280 Speaker 4: we started. I'm curious because you were in the heyday 1437 01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,400 Speaker 4: with Snoop and Dre and everybody in Tupac was the 1438 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,559 Speaker 4: Was it as bad as they made it seem to 1439 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,280 Speaker 4: be back then as far as the media. 1440 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,080 Speaker 5: Well, the East Coast West Coast beef, Yes, that was 1441 01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 5: that got bad, Like two people lost their lives, Two 1442 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,599 Speaker 5: people that we know that were dear to the music lost 1443 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,439 Speaker 5: their lives, and a lot of like invisible folks that 1444 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,679 Speaker 5: you know got caught up into that whole feud as well. 1445 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:37,120 Speaker 5: It was unnecessary journey that hip hop went through. And 1446 01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:43,799 Speaker 5: if you think about just the power of urban music, 1447 01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:50,960 Speaker 5: it's literally changed the world, you know, changed fashion boosted economies. Uh, 1448 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 5: hip hop. Hip hop is an amazing art form community culture. 1449 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 5: When when Easy signed us, he was cool that we 1450 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,800 Speaker 5: were different, Like he wasn't trying to like we never 1451 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,439 Speaker 5: got told like y'all need to be a little bit 1452 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:14,120 Speaker 5: more harder, Like he was like, I like, how creative 1453 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 5: you guys are? I like how expressive you guys are? 1454 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,080 Speaker 5: You know, And he was a true entrepreneur. I always say, like, 1455 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 5: what would the world be like if Easy never passed away? 1456 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:30,840 Speaker 5: If Easy never died? Would the giants of you know, 1457 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:36,120 Speaker 5: the giants and uh the moguls and hip hop? Would 1458 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,960 Speaker 5: they be the moguls? Would jay Z be jay Z? 1459 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 5: If Easy never passed away? And that's a serious question, 1460 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,439 Speaker 5: Like think about it. If Easy never passed away, that 1461 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,200 Speaker 5: means Easy and Dre would have rekindled and work together. 1462 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,760 Speaker 5: That means Ruthless Records would have probably most likely went 1463 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,200 Speaker 5: to Interscope with Jimmy. That means Tupac never would have 1464 01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 5: passed away. That means Biggie never would have passed away. 1465 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,800 Speaker 5: If Biggie never passed away, jay Z wouldn't be jay 1466 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,320 Speaker 5: Z like jay Z's jay Z. 1467 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 4: Right. 1468 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,880 Speaker 5: That means there would be other Moguls in the space. 1469 01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:14,240 Speaker 5: This means, you know, bone Thugs in Harmony would have 1470 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:19,679 Speaker 5: continued to be bone Thugs. This means another NWA record 1471 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 5: would have come to be. That means Snoop Dogg would 1472 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,840 Speaker 5: still be Snoop because Dre discovered Snoop. And if you 1473 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,560 Speaker 5: think of like the power of Dre and all the 1474 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,679 Speaker 5: artists that he's like, Dre was East coast, West coast, 1475 01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:37,799 Speaker 5: like think of from from fifty cent to Eminem Detroit 1476 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 5: to Snoop. That's a lot of that blueprint you saw 1477 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,640 Speaker 5: with Eazye where he was collaborating with Tretch, he was 1478 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:53,240 Speaker 5: collaborating with you know, Houston Rappers and the Roofless had 1479 01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:57,639 Speaker 5: an amazing like branch ice Cube left and then started 1480 01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,880 Speaker 5: working with the Bomb Squad. But you know public Enemy Folk, 1481 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:06,800 Speaker 5: so Eventually, if Easy never passed, ice Cube probably would 1482 01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 5: have went back to n WA, that East coast West coast, 1483 01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,400 Speaker 5: you know, Union would have you would have seen the 1484 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 5: bomb squad producing for NW uh NWA on roofless. The 1485 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,840 Speaker 5: dynamics would have be different if Easy never died. 1486 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,800 Speaker 3: So how did he find you? How was that meaning? 1487 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:24,679 Speaker 3: Hod that come about? 1488 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 5: I was freestyling at a uh. I was freestyling at 1489 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,680 Speaker 5: a at like a like an open mic, and I 1490 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,960 Speaker 5: was like, you know, I told you from the jump, 1491 01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,320 Speaker 5: I'm competitive. I would like rip foods. I would take somebody, 1492 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,559 Speaker 5: I would study their style and I would do their 1493 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,160 Speaker 5: style better than them. And then I would like you know, 1494 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:47,000 Speaker 5: flip it and contort and like use similes and metaphors 1495 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,559 Speaker 5: and fuck people up. And that was my like whole thing, 1496 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,080 Speaker 5: Like all right, let me get into the head, let 1497 01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,920 Speaker 5: me talk shit, let me like fuck with they mental 1498 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:59,320 Speaker 5: and and and improv. I'm fast physically, I'm fast mentally, 1499 01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:03,120 Speaker 5: Like I'm competitive. 1500 01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:07,000 Speaker 3: Bro, I love it, bro smiling right now. Bro, come on, 1501 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:08,519 Speaker 3: I'm getting fired up right now. 1502 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:09,200 Speaker 1: Let's go. 1503 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,680 Speaker 5: But yeah, but but but I still have fun with 1504 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,759 Speaker 5: it though, Like I said, there's a thin line between 1505 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,639 Speaker 5: like uh, audaciousness and arrogance, because if you talk ship 1506 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,439 Speaker 5: and you're arrogant, there's warst popping off. 1507 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,360 Speaker 1: And you better be able to. 1508 01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,519 Speaker 5: If you audacious and and talk ship and and it's fine, 1509 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,920 Speaker 5: you can still get in the head. But you know, 1510 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:36,960 Speaker 5: like you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I love. 1511 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,320 Speaker 3: It though, Look I love that. I love that. 1512 01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:39,599 Speaker 1: Will. 1513 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,760 Speaker 4: That's a fascinating time, man. And like I said, we 1514 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,599 Speaker 4: can't thank you enough for today. If you will, I've 1515 01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,800 Speaker 4: known you a long time, bro, and Jamal and Jay 1516 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,000 Speaker 4: are family, uh and and and you've been family And 1517 01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,000 Speaker 4: so with everything you said, we got to connect you 1518 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,280 Speaker 4: and more Shawn, to help change these cities along with Gavin, 1519 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 4: one of the most impressive people I've met, ran literally 1520 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:00,360 Speaker 4: off the chart, man. 1521 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,840 Speaker 2: And meanwhile, meanwhile, you're back on the road next year 1522 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,160 Speaker 2: in Vegas, the playground for the world. 1523 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,240 Speaker 5: So we're doing a Vegas residency and then after that, 1524 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,640 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna start uh preparing to run for 1525 01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 5: mayor of Los Angeles. Just can't get you. 1526 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,479 Speaker 2: Put it out there. We got we got two mayors 1527 01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:22,719 Speaker 2: in waiting right now. Marshawn running for mayor. You're running 1528 01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,040 Speaker 2: for l A and Doug and I are running for 1529 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:26,040 Speaker 2: our goddamn lives. 1530 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,960 Speaker 5: The hell is this all right? Worried up guys? 1531 01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:31,519 Speaker 1: You okay? 1532 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:42,560 Speaker 4: Guys okay,