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Speaker 1: The Book of Joe Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Ary, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: It's the latest episode of the Book of Joe Podcast

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Speaker 1: with me, Tom Verducci and of course Joe Madden and Joe.

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Speaker 2: We've got a really special guest today.

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Speaker 1: If you're a fan of college baseball at all, you

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Speaker 1: know all about Travis Bozana. He is one of the

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Speaker 1: top players in college baseball. And actually, Joe, it's interesting

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Speaker 1: people are talking about him being at the top of

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Speaker 1: the draft selection this year, which is unusual.

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Speaker 2: He plays second base.

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Speaker 1: I know, Travis, we can talk about You've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of versatility.

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Speaker 2: You can play all over the diamond.

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Speaker 1: But as far as second baseman go of the draft,

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Speaker 1: you've got Ricky Weeks is the only second basement picked

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Speaker 1: in the top five ever in the draft. So besides that,

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Speaker 1: Travis is from Australia, which is groundbreaking in and of

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Speaker 1: a time self in terms of being drafted that high. So, Travis,

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Speaker 1: I know there's some people refer to you as the

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Speaker 1: wonder from down Under. I've also heard Basmanian Devil. Tell

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Speaker 1: me what your Orgon State teammates call you.

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Speaker 3: They just called me Baz. Yeah, nothing to to in

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Speaker 3: depth like that. But the Twitter world definitely makes up

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Speaker 3: some crazy nicknames.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have some fun. Hey, it's talking about talking

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Speaker 1: about having fun. Tell me what it's been like this year,

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Speaker 1: because let's face it, you know, I had a couple

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Speaker 1: of great years there at Oregon State, but now the

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Speaker 1: attention on you has really gone next level draft class year.

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Speaker 1: What's it been like for you in terms of how

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Speaker 1: much fun it remains, how much pressure there is, how

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Speaker 1: much talk about the draft and scouts following you around.

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Speaker 1: How has this year been playing out for you at

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Speaker 1: Oregon State.

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Speaker 3: It's been great. I'm super lucky to see his team

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Speaker 3: is like got the ultimate trust in each other, and

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Speaker 3: it's sort of a free and easy feeling being at

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Speaker 3: the every day and being in between the lines and competing,

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Speaker 3: so everyone's kind of pulling for the for the same

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Speaker 3: goal and that's the win in Omaha. And it's making everything,

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Speaker 3: I guess considerably easier. I'm able to navigate kind of

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Speaker 4: I just ask a question, who's you just mentioned mentors.

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Speaker 4: I'm big on that.

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Speaker 5: Coming from Australia, I've had a lot of players. I've

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Speaker 5: worked with a lot of guys from down there in

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Speaker 5: the past. Just curiously, like, who who is your guys

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Speaker 5: down there in Australia, who are your coaches? Anybody that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, down in Australia, it was Brian Roland Smith and

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Speaker 3: Trent Alcina were the two sort of biggest mentors when

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Speaker 3: they were my biggest mentals in the on the Australian

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Speaker 4: With age, did you really get started with this?

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Speaker 5: I mean you have probably like when you were six,

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Speaker 3: I think three is all really okay. I thes photos

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Speaker 5: Truth be told, I've always wanted to go there. I've

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Speaker 1: Well, I was lucky enough to go to Australia on

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Speaker 1: We didn't get to Western Australia, but up and down

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Speaker 1: the coast, Barrier, Reef, you name it, and Travis I was.

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Speaker 1: Besides the natural beauty there which is amazing. Definitely recommend

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Speaker 2: It is worth the flight.

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Speaker 1: The people are outstanding, Oh my goodness, just so friendly,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of baseball fields went over

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Speaker 1: I was in Australia. So I know you played a

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Speaker 1: So my question is how do you balance baseball and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the balance was pretty heavily lopsided to baseball. I

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Speaker 3: It was like my dreams and aspirations were with baseball,

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Speaker 3: I'd say, like, I be hitting baseballs before I went

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was it was always sort of Baseball

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Speaker 5: Could ask a question there, because this is something that

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Speaker 5: I tried to delve into. I was a hitting coach

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Speaker 5: So I researched cricket balls and then I finally found one.

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Speaker 5: I think I was up in Seattle really what that

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Speaker 4: Did it just? Was there something about it? The pretty

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Speaker 5: Ball really jumped a little bit more when you hit

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Speaker 4: Did it? Did it matter? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: That's cool.

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Speaker 5: No, I played fast pitched softball as a kid when

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Speaker 4: Simultaneously, I was Atlantic Collegian baseball.

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Speaker 5: He was a really good summer league for college guys, right,

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Speaker 5: and damn, I never I mean, I felt like I

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Speaker 5: But the big thing difference was after hitting that heavier

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Speaker 1: So Travis, when you're growing up in Australia, even though

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Speaker 1: terms of playing travel ball, showcase events, things like that,

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Speaker 2: I listened years ago.

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Speaker 1: played more than one hundred games a year when he

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Speaker 1: because not a lot of Australians have done that.

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Speaker 3: would say year round, I was probably playing maybe thirty

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's just different, like you have to make

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Speaker 5: So did you recruit Oregon State or did they recruit you?

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Speaker 3: They recruited me. I was at a tournament. They saw

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Speaker 1: Well, you've got a fabulous approach at the plate. I know,

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Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard this before, but I'm going

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Speaker 1: All right, Travis has been tearing it up at Oregon State,

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Speaker 1: Freshman year three zero six, four twenty.

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Speaker 1: He's just getting started though, Sophomore year three seventy four,

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Speaker 2: So far, he's not done yet.

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Speaker 1: Folks four thirty two, five eighty three, ten twenty three slug.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see that arc, Travis, where when people

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned your your approach at the plate, Travis.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not an exact comp but in terms of

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Speaker 3: Tell him that's like, honestly, probably one of the favorite

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Speaker 3: Runs well. I love that. I think I think we're

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Speaker 3: And I've kind of taken that self evaluation, self kind

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Speaker 3: So I say, not one hitter, but just feeling things

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Speaker 4: Well, you've been teaching yourself.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I've not seen all this that Tommy's

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Speaker 4: At right now. And I know you're not satisfied.

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Speaker 5: And I could see the humility within everything that you do,

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Speaker 5: you more. Use the word feel a lot right there. Yes,

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Speaker 5: That's that's a great approach for me mentally as you

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Speaker 3: So it's interesting. I think I hit the lowboll pretty well,

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Speaker 1: Well I mentioned now you're slugging is gone up here,

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Speaker 1: And I know, and those guys were established big leaguers.

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Speaker 1: Travis still working on it. If that's something that you

439
00:22:26,838 --> 00:22:29,478
Speaker 1: worked on this year and seen results from I'm curious

440
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Speaker 1: to know because it's it's like next level stuff. How

441
00:22:33,118 --> 00:22:35,758
Speaker 1: have you gone about doing that and how comfortable are

442
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Speaker 1: you with the results so far.

443
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a long process. I started trying to

444
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Speaker 3: understand how to have pure ballfly to the pool side

445
00:22:46,358 --> 00:22:50,678
Speaker 3: at fifteen sixteen because I was always very my swing

446
00:22:50,718 --> 00:22:54,078
Speaker 3: started very slappy as a kid. I was you could say,

447
00:22:54,078 --> 00:22:56,718
Speaker 3: a general like slap speed contact guy. All growing up.

448
00:22:56,838 --> 00:23:00,158
Speaker 3: I didn't really hit for much slug and I used

449
00:23:00,158 --> 00:23:01,878
Speaker 3: my speed and hit the ball off his field a lot,

450
00:23:01,958 --> 00:23:05,238
Speaker 3: and that kind of meant that the way I swung

451
00:23:05,358 --> 00:23:07,998
Speaker 3: was super linear and very vertical with my bat, and

452
00:23:08,318 --> 00:23:12,518
Speaker 3: I wasn't really able to see the ball travel to

453
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Speaker 3: the pull side, and so I was searching for that

454
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Speaker 3: And it was a long process and I still am

455
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Speaker 3: because I'd often kind of I feel like being right

456
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Speaker 3: arm dominant and just swinging the way I did for

457
00:23:24,918 --> 00:23:27,358
Speaker 3: a long time growing up. It makes me sort of

458
00:23:27,438 --> 00:23:29,998
Speaker 3: rip out of my posture quite often, and then that

459
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Speaker 3: results in that top spin to the pool side. So

460
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Speaker 3: it's been a process of just like as many reps

461
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Speaker 3: as I can of like when the balls on the

462
00:23:40,038 --> 00:23:43,038
Speaker 3: inner half, being able to hold my posture like almost

463
00:23:43,078 --> 00:23:48,758
Speaker 3: downhill and keep this like front side downhill versus ripping

464
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Speaker 3: up to the ball to get to it to create space.

465
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Speaker 3: So creating space in my setup in my move to

466
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Speaker 3: where I can then just trust a rotation and flat

467
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Speaker 3: through that inside pitch and see it sort of backs

468
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Speaker 3: me into the pull side. Because as a sort of

469
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Speaker 3: like a five to eleven, two hundred pound guy, it's

470
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to have the six to seven Aaron

471
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Speaker 3: judge behind the ball every time, but I've got to

472
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Speaker 3: find ways to create the slug. And one of those

473
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Speaker 3: ways is that when I swear the ball up to

474
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Speaker 3: the pull side or turn on an inside pitch, I'd

475
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Speaker 3: want that to be backspun so that it can carry

476
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Speaker 3: the outfielder and slug and help the team win. So yeah,

477
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Speaker 3: it's been constant reps in different environments and restrictions in

478
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Speaker 3: the training to where I have to focus on the

479
00:24:33,958 --> 00:24:37,398
Speaker 3: ball flight, feedback more and make the right moves to

480
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Speaker 3: then get to that pitch. But it's been reps to

481
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Speaker 3: sort of train the posturl like leak that I had

482
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Speaker 3: out of my swing that I just trust the move

483
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Speaker 3: to the inside pitch and it's spins correctly off my back.

484
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Speaker 4: I love the way he did that, though.

485
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Speaker 5: Man, I've had some really good hitters historically that started

486
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Speaker 5: in the opposite side of the field. They'll learn how

487
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Speaker 5: to pull the ball as you got a bigger, stronger,

488
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Speaker 5: and older. Everything you're talking about right on the money.

489
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Speaker 5: I could talk about Garrett Anderson, Jimmy Edmonds, Tommy Salmon.

490
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Speaker 5: I mean, I had these guys into minor league. Is

491
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Speaker 5: all really good OPO hitters, line drive APO hitters. Everybody

492
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Speaker 5: was complaining, like when they're going to pull the ball,

493
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Speaker 5: When you're going to make them pull the ball, when

494
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Speaker 5: they're going to pull way, I said, listen, just just

495
00:25:13,198 --> 00:25:14,958
Speaker 5: let them get bigger, stronger, and they're going to figure

496
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Speaker 5: out the technique. And then pitchers start throwing home runs

497
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Speaker 5: more than hitters hit home runs. So the progress, the

498
00:25:21,718 --> 00:25:23,878
Speaker 5: method you're incorporating, I think is right on the money.

499
00:25:24,158 --> 00:25:26,278
Speaker 5: Your explanations are really good. I mean Tommy brought that

500
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Speaker 5: up early on. I mean, obviously you've studied this well

501
00:25:29,598 --> 00:25:33,718
Speaker 5: and your explanation, your method of describing things is right

502
00:25:33,758 --> 00:25:35,758
Speaker 5: on the money, too, So I could see where you're

503
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Speaker 5: going to get to that point to eventually handle that

504
00:25:38,198 --> 00:25:40,078
Speaker 5: insight pitch well and get it in the air, backspin

505
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Speaker 5: it power that ball to the pull side. Outstanding, brother,

506
00:25:44,238 --> 00:25:46,838
Speaker 5: I'm I'm just comment because I'm listening, man. But again,

507
00:25:46,918 --> 00:25:50,078
Speaker 5: the progress of going OPO gap young to being able

508
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Speaker 5: to pull the ball later, that's to me the right

509
00:25:52,038 --> 00:25:52,958
Speaker 5: way to do things.

510
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Speaker 1: And Travis, you are obviously part of this generation now

511
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Speaker 1: that has a ton of technology, data and information at

512
00:26:00,558 --> 00:26:03,758
Speaker 1: your disposal, and I know that you like to dive

513
00:26:03,798 --> 00:26:06,438
Speaker 1: in into a lot of that stuff. So give me

514
00:26:06,478 --> 00:26:10,278
Speaker 1: a sense of what you like the information that you

515
00:26:10,518 --> 00:26:14,398
Speaker 1: find to be applicable to making you a better baseball

516
00:26:14,438 --> 00:26:15,838
Speaker 1: player and not just noise.

517
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the biggest things for me on that

518
00:26:19,598 --> 00:26:23,678
Speaker 3: side of things has been like breaking down my game

519
00:26:23,878 --> 00:26:28,198
Speaker 3: to a deeper level in the off season. I think

520
00:26:28,198 --> 00:26:30,798
Speaker 3: that's where I've seen the biggest jumps is like, Okay,

521
00:26:30,838 --> 00:26:34,438
Speaker 3: freshman year, I have the data of like I can

522
00:26:34,598 --> 00:26:37,118
Speaker 3: figure out my strengths and weaknesses to a greater level

523
00:26:37,158 --> 00:26:39,438
Speaker 3: and then attack that before the next season when I'm

524
00:26:39,438 --> 00:26:41,558
Speaker 3: gonna go compete in between the White Lions and just

525
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Speaker 3: do it. But it's allowed me to be more intentional

526
00:26:45,238 --> 00:26:48,478
Speaker 3: with my training, So like freshman year was Okay, the

527
00:26:48,558 --> 00:26:50,918
Speaker 3: numbers say that I'm chasing and hit his counts way

528
00:26:50,958 --> 00:26:53,438
Speaker 3: more than I should. Okay, what does that tell me? Oh,

529
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Speaker 3: every time I got to a hit his count I'm like,

530
00:26:55,118 --> 00:26:58,238
Speaker 3: now's my time to slug or do something good, and

531
00:26:59,198 --> 00:27:02,038
Speaker 3: I'm trying to do too much. And then all of

532
00:27:02,078 --> 00:27:03,918
Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm able to make that change next year

533
00:27:03,918 --> 00:27:05,638
Speaker 3: and hit accounts and understand that all right, now I'm

534
00:27:05,638 --> 00:27:07,718
Speaker 3: going to even more, like shrink it even more and

535
00:27:08,038 --> 00:27:11,598
Speaker 3: really hunt a pitch that I can damage. So that

536
00:27:11,638 --> 00:27:13,078
Speaker 3: was one thing freshman year, and it was like, oh,

537
00:27:13,118 --> 00:27:16,158
Speaker 3: I struggled with the heater up freshman year and I

538
00:27:16,238 --> 00:27:19,118
Speaker 3: and I didn't slug breaking balls at all, And so

539
00:27:19,238 --> 00:27:22,638
Speaker 3: I found the resources I could and watched the hitters

540
00:27:22,638 --> 00:27:26,358
Speaker 3: that slug breaking balls and hit fastballs up and made

541
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Speaker 3: the changes, which was mainly a postural thing to then

542
00:27:29,918 --> 00:27:32,918
Speaker 3: make that adjustment. And then after last year, it's again

543
00:27:32,958 --> 00:27:37,518
Speaker 3: just diving into the the depths of my approach and

544
00:27:37,638 --> 00:27:41,678
Speaker 3: where I'm missing and where I'm slugging and then start

545
00:27:41,758 --> 00:27:43,758
Speaker 3: to like sort of try to train those things and

546
00:27:43,798 --> 00:27:47,798
Speaker 3: make improvements. So I think the biggest things has been, yeah,

547
00:27:48,038 --> 00:27:50,758
Speaker 3: just being able to understand where I'm strong and where

548
00:27:50,758 --> 00:27:52,638
Speaker 3: I'm weak and know that I've got time to work

549
00:27:52,638 --> 00:27:56,398
Speaker 3: on those things. But I've always been able to be

550
00:27:56,558 --> 00:27:59,558
Speaker 3: in the game and just compete and have a good

551
00:27:59,598 --> 00:28:02,678
Speaker 3: process and go and win win ball games and win pitches.

552
00:28:04,038 --> 00:28:06,758
Speaker 3: But I think it's just been understanding myself. And I'm

553
00:28:07,758 --> 00:28:11,678
Speaker 3: I feel like because I've a lot of my baseball

554
00:28:12,638 --> 00:28:18,158
Speaker 3: growth has been fairly self taught and trying things myself

555
00:28:18,238 --> 00:28:22,158
Speaker 3: in the cages and like with my training programs, kind

556
00:28:22,158 --> 00:28:24,918
Speaker 3: of building things myself growing up. I've learned how to

557
00:28:24,958 --> 00:28:30,118
Speaker 3: apply and filter information better and with the research, I

558
00:28:30,598 --> 00:28:33,718
Speaker 3: can kind of filter it better than some other like

559
00:28:34,278 --> 00:28:35,918
Speaker 3: some of my peers, And so I think I can

560
00:28:35,998 --> 00:28:39,478
Speaker 3: use those things. And again it's just picking and choosing

561
00:28:39,518 --> 00:28:41,918
Speaker 3: the right times. But I like being able to see

562
00:28:41,958 --> 00:28:44,118
Speaker 3: where I'm at and know all right now, I'm going

563
00:28:44,198 --> 00:28:47,878
Speaker 3: to use like objective feedback to get better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fascinating stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, as I mentioned at the top, more than

566
00:28:52,438 --> 00:28:54,958
Speaker 1: just skill and talent, there's a lot behind what Travis

567
00:28:54,998 --> 00:28:57,158
Speaker 1: is doing here to make them one of the top

568
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Speaker 1: picks in the Major League draft. Before we let you go, Travis,

569
00:29:01,278 --> 00:29:02,998
Speaker 1: a couple of quick hits here. I just want to

570
00:29:02,998 --> 00:29:04,838
Speaker 1: touch on some things and you can just we'll just

571
00:29:04,958 --> 00:29:07,238
Speaker 1: rift through some topics. Don't have to get deep into

572
00:29:07,278 --> 00:29:09,838
Speaker 1: the woods. But a couple of the things I did

573
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Speaker 1: want to ask you about. You are a psychology major, correct,

574
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Speaker 1: How does that help you on a baseball field?

575
00:29:16,438 --> 00:29:18,518
Speaker 3: Some classes do, some classes don't. But it's just like

576
00:29:19,118 --> 00:29:22,998
Speaker 3: again learning learning more about myself and my teammates and

577
00:29:23,318 --> 00:29:27,718
Speaker 3: my just like the people around me, and how to

578
00:29:27,758 --> 00:29:31,558
Speaker 3: be a be a better person and understand feel of

579
00:29:31,678 --> 00:29:34,558
Speaker 3: situations and like just be able to communicate better. There's

580
00:29:34,598 --> 00:29:37,518
Speaker 3: there's so much behind psychology, and I think that there's

581
00:29:37,558 --> 00:29:39,998
Speaker 3: little nuggets I can take from different things I learned

582
00:29:40,278 --> 00:29:41,278
Speaker 3: getting the degree.

583
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Speaker 1: And I understand meditation is a big part of your

584
00:29:44,678 --> 00:29:46,478
Speaker 1: game prep or maybe daily prep.

585
00:29:46,918 --> 00:29:50,958
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, no. I I have always been pretty amped up,

586
00:29:51,198 --> 00:29:57,678
Speaker 3: pretty high energy, kind of reactive player, and then once

587
00:29:57,718 --> 00:30:00,038
Speaker 3: I learned how to kind of slow down a little

588
00:30:00,038 --> 00:30:03,198
Speaker 3: bit pregame, I think that helped me just be clear

589
00:30:03,238 --> 00:30:05,878
Speaker 3: and smooth to pitch and not have impulsive kind of

590
00:30:06,238 --> 00:30:08,838
Speaker 3: decision making. And it's definitely helped me. And it's a

591
00:30:09,318 --> 00:30:10,638
Speaker 3: daily thing, especially game day.

592
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Speaker 4: When do you do it? Do you do it in

593
00:30:12,238 --> 00:30:13,478
Speaker 4: the morning when you wake up. Do you do it

594
00:30:13,478 --> 00:30:14,998
Speaker 4: before the game? Do you take a break?

595
00:30:15,518 --> 00:30:19,038
Speaker 3: It's pre game, after batting practice. I've spend twenty twenty

596
00:30:19,038 --> 00:30:22,438
Speaker 3: five minutes either doing a guide in meditation ornpping, and

597
00:30:22,478 --> 00:30:24,478
Speaker 3: then we actually have a mental skills coach who does

598
00:30:24,478 --> 00:30:26,678
Speaker 3: it with the team almost every day, so there's that.

599
00:30:27,158 --> 00:30:29,718
Speaker 3: It's in my pregame and then before bed if I

600
00:30:29,798 --> 00:30:31,638
Speaker 3: kind of need a wine down or just some other stuff.

601
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Speaker 4: How long you've been doing that, I'm just curious.

602
00:30:34,638 --> 00:30:37,478
Speaker 3: I actually started doing some meditation when I was fifteen,

603
00:30:37,558 --> 00:30:41,558
Speaker 3: but really only been a staple in what I'm doing,

604
00:30:41,998 --> 00:30:45,398
Speaker 3: Like it's been consistent since freshman year, since in college.

605
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Speaker 4: I think that's awesome.

606
00:30:46,358 --> 00:30:48,478
Speaker 2: So you're taking care of your mind. How about the body.

607
00:30:48,478 --> 00:30:50,638
Speaker 1: I know it's not always easy and being in college

608
00:30:50,678 --> 00:30:53,798
Speaker 1: to eat right, but tell me about your nutrition and

609
00:30:53,838 --> 00:30:55,358
Speaker 1: training as far as diet goes.

610
00:30:55,558 --> 00:30:57,798
Speaker 3: Yeah, we lucky enough to have a lot of good

611
00:30:57,798 --> 00:31:01,358
Speaker 3: resources here at Oregon State, and they provide us some

612
00:31:01,398 --> 00:31:05,198
Speaker 3: good meal prep stuff and also a breakfast table and

613
00:31:05,838 --> 00:31:09,158
Speaker 3: some other things, so we get the opportunity to eat

614
00:31:09,158 --> 00:31:13,358
Speaker 3: pretty clean. But yeah, I'm my roommates and I have

615
00:31:13,598 --> 00:31:15,758
Speaker 3: fairly on top of things, and when we get a

616
00:31:15,838 --> 00:31:19,798
Speaker 3: chance to cook, it's usually pretty clean steak, vegetables, and

617
00:31:19,838 --> 00:31:22,598
Speaker 3: it's just a good variety of foods, but pretty on

618
00:31:22,598 --> 00:31:24,638
Speaker 3: top of things. And this part of the season is

619
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Speaker 3: just making sure that I'm eating enough and eating clean

620
00:31:29,198 --> 00:31:32,998
Speaker 3: to keep myself kind of fresh and recovering and maintaining weight.

621
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Speaker 3: It's one thing I've learned playing a lot of games

622
00:31:36,558 --> 00:31:38,518
Speaker 3: since I never really played that many games growing up

623
00:31:38,518 --> 00:31:42,318
Speaker 3: and playing more games now. It's like you do spend

624
00:31:42,358 --> 00:31:43,598
Speaker 3: a lot of time in the field, and it is

625
00:31:43,718 --> 00:31:45,998
Speaker 3: easy to lose weight, and then you get to the

626
00:31:46,038 --> 00:31:48,158
Speaker 3: playoffs and you're down eight pounds from the start of

627
00:31:48,158 --> 00:31:49,838
Speaker 3: the season. You hit a ball the warning track and

628
00:31:49,878 --> 00:31:51,598
Speaker 3: you want to I think I would have been a

629
00:31:51,638 --> 00:31:53,198
Speaker 3: little stronger at the start of the seam that might

630
00:31:53,238 --> 00:31:57,398
Speaker 3: have gone. So yeah, really trying hard to maintain weight

631
00:31:57,478 --> 00:31:59,238
Speaker 3: right now and just continue to stay on top of

632
00:31:59,238 --> 00:32:00,558
Speaker 3: those things now.

633
00:32:00,838 --> 00:32:02,958
Speaker 2: I know you've still got a lot of season ahead

634
00:32:02,998 --> 00:32:03,238
Speaker 2: of you.

635
00:32:03,398 --> 00:32:06,838
Speaker 1: Obviously, O Maha is huge goal, as it is every year,

636
00:32:07,038 --> 00:32:08,958
Speaker 1: But in the back of your mind sometimes when you

637
00:32:08,998 --> 00:32:10,798
Speaker 1: put that head on a pillow, how much do you

638
00:32:10,878 --> 00:32:14,118
Speaker 1: think about the draft and is it a goal of

639
00:32:14,158 --> 00:32:17,078
Speaker 1: your is not that you could actually, you know, make

640
00:32:17,158 --> 00:32:19,078
Speaker 1: this happen yourself. But is it a goal to be

641
00:32:19,158 --> 00:32:22,438
Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft?

642
00:32:23,158 --> 00:32:25,678
Speaker 3: To be honest, my goal at the side of the

643
00:32:25,678 --> 00:32:28,718
Speaker 3: season was to be the best hitter in college baseball.

644
00:32:29,438 --> 00:32:33,078
Speaker 3: Understanding that, like I can't really control when it comes

645
00:32:33,078 --> 00:32:37,358
Speaker 3: down to it, whether a team, Yes, teams try to

646
00:32:37,398 --> 00:32:40,678
Speaker 3: pick the best player on the board, but like I

647
00:32:40,718 --> 00:32:44,158
Speaker 3: can't control whether they offer multiple guys and they have

648
00:32:44,238 --> 00:32:46,838
Speaker 3: a value of someone else. Well, there's a pitcher throwing

649
00:32:46,838 --> 00:32:50,758
Speaker 3: one hundred that dominates in his conference and is the

650
00:32:50,798 --> 00:32:52,678
Speaker 3: best pitcher in the draft, like Dylan Cruis and why

651
00:32:52,678 --> 00:32:55,798
Speaker 3: at Langford were great last year and Pole Skins was

652
00:32:55,798 --> 00:32:59,078
Speaker 3: the number one overpick. I think controlling Really it's about

653
00:32:59,078 --> 00:33:01,438
Speaker 3: my process and going about it and believing I can

654
00:33:01,478 --> 00:33:03,918
Speaker 3: be the best hitter in the country. And I think

655
00:33:03,958 --> 00:33:06,998
Speaker 3: think the draft like takes care of itself, but just

656
00:33:07,038 --> 00:33:11,118
Speaker 3: taking care of my process and continuing to get better

657
00:33:11,158 --> 00:33:14,598
Speaker 3: and focus on like daily just daily little things, daily tossed,

658
00:33:14,918 --> 00:33:17,238
Speaker 3: doing what I need to do, continue to pour into

659
00:33:17,318 --> 00:33:23,158
Speaker 3: teammates and be worried about winning and giving my best

660
00:33:23,198 --> 00:33:25,758
Speaker 3: like effort every time I get in the box. Every

661
00:33:25,758 --> 00:33:27,878
Speaker 3: time I'm out on the field, and that'll take care

662
00:33:27,878 --> 00:33:30,518
Speaker 3: of itself. But I think you could say my goal

663
00:33:30,558 --> 00:33:32,278
Speaker 3: was that I really wanted to be the best hitter

664
00:33:32,278 --> 00:33:34,838
Speaker 3: in college baseball. Was was the goal before you?

665
00:33:34,878 --> 00:33:37,838
Speaker 1: Well, you are certainly on your way. And finally, I

666
00:33:38,118 --> 00:33:41,998
Speaker 1: know they were before your time. But Midnight Oil? Are

667
00:33:42,038 --> 00:33:44,798
Speaker 1: you into Midnight Oil? Or what's the go through band

668
00:33:44,838 --> 00:33:47,198
Speaker 1: these days in in uh down Under?

669
00:33:47,438 --> 00:33:51,278
Speaker 3: Yeah, Midnight Oil. My dad will love that one. Yeah,

670
00:33:51,358 --> 00:33:56,238
Speaker 3: we love If there was one one band that I

671
00:33:56,318 --> 00:33:58,438
Speaker 3: liked that my dad listened to, it was Midnight All

672
00:33:58,438 --> 00:34:03,998
Speaker 3: I could always get around. Yeah, that pretty legendary and

673
00:34:05,038 --> 00:34:06,838
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I listened to them too much anymore.

674
00:34:06,838 --> 00:34:08,438
Speaker 3: But growing up, I think I did a high school

675
00:34:08,438 --> 00:34:11,678
Speaker 3: project on Midnight Oil and a concert they did in

676
00:34:11,678 --> 00:34:15,438
Speaker 3: front of in front of an Exon Oil building. It

677
00:34:15,478 --> 00:34:18,638
Speaker 3: was like a protest. But anyway, I don't know. I

678
00:34:18,718 --> 00:34:20,838
Speaker 3: kind of listened to a lot of American music. Now

679
00:34:21,758 --> 00:34:23,878
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm behind on the Australian music scene.

680
00:34:23,918 --> 00:34:26,118
Speaker 3: So yeah, a little bit of country, a little bit

681
00:34:26,158 --> 00:34:27,718
Speaker 3: of hip hop rap. Whatever.

682
00:34:28,118 --> 00:34:29,278
Speaker 4: Are you into red wine yet?

683
00:34:29,558 --> 00:34:30,358
Speaker 3: In the red Wine?

684
00:34:30,358 --> 00:34:30,838
Speaker 4: No, I'm not.

685
00:34:32,198 --> 00:34:36,038
Speaker 3: I'm not a big red wine sometimes sometimes if someone's

686
00:34:36,118 --> 00:34:38,038
Speaker 3: if someone's making a really nice steak and they have

687
00:34:38,078 --> 00:34:39,078
Speaker 3: red wine, I might have some.

688
00:34:39,198 --> 00:34:41,238
Speaker 5: But you know, you have Molly Duker down there. I

689
00:34:41,318 --> 00:34:43,438
Speaker 5: love your Molly Duker products. Are you aware of Molly

690
00:34:43,478 --> 00:34:45,838
Speaker 5: Duker I'm not aware of that you have.

691
00:34:46,198 --> 00:34:46,718
Speaker 4: They have like.

692
00:34:46,678 --> 00:34:50,078
Speaker 5: About twelve different products out there. When I was with

693
00:34:50,118 --> 00:34:52,278
Speaker 5: the Cubs, I mentioned him in the post game one time,

694
00:34:52,838 --> 00:34:54,878
Speaker 5: they sent me a bottle of each in a nice

695
00:34:54,878 --> 00:34:58,118
Speaker 5: little pocket. I got twelve bottles of molly Duker wine.

696
00:34:58,238 --> 00:35:01,678
Speaker 5: If you think from the boxer on up to Velvet Glove.

697
00:35:01,758 --> 00:35:03,758
Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of the wines down there too.

698
00:35:03,998 --> 00:35:06,278
Speaker 5: So when you get to that point, check out them.

699
00:35:06,118 --> 00:35:07,398
Speaker 4: All, you dokers. They're outstanding.

700
00:35:07,518 --> 00:35:10,398
Speaker 2: Right, that's on the two do list. There you go,

701
00:35:10,758 --> 00:35:13,478
Speaker 2: that's right, there you go. Hey, listen, Travis, we really

702
00:35:13,558 --> 00:35:14,158
Speaker 2: appreciate this.

703
00:35:14,278 --> 00:35:16,678
Speaker 1: Anybody who's watched you play, it's a joy to watch

704
00:35:16,718 --> 00:35:18,438
Speaker 1: you play, but it's even more of a treat to

705
00:35:18,478 --> 00:35:20,318
Speaker 1: get to a chance to sit down and talk to

706
00:35:20,358 --> 00:35:23,118
Speaker 1: you and have you explain some of the things about

707
00:35:23,478 --> 00:35:25,238
Speaker 1: how you've gotten to this point. One of the best

708
00:35:25,278 --> 00:35:28,998
Speaker 1: college players out there, great future in professional baseball ahead

709
00:35:28,998 --> 00:35:31,478
Speaker 1: of you, wish you really nothing but all the best

710
00:35:31,518 --> 00:35:33,678
Speaker 1: this year and hopefully you go a long way in

711
00:35:33,718 --> 00:35:34,598
Speaker 1: Omaha this year.

712
00:35:34,838 --> 00:35:37,078
Speaker 3: Thanks Tom, Thanks Joe, it's been awesome.

713
00:35:36,798 --> 00:35:38,118
Speaker 4: To be on Just still.

714
00:35:38,118 --> 00:35:42,518
Speaker 5: What you're doing, brother, with the conversation's outstanding. Your process

715
00:35:43,078 --> 00:35:44,598
Speaker 5: is on the money, just and I do know.

716
00:35:44,518 --> 00:35:45,318
Speaker 4: You're not going to change.

717
00:35:45,358 --> 00:35:47,478
Speaker 5: I know you for like, what is it thirty eight

718
00:35:47,478 --> 00:35:50,718
Speaker 5: minutes and fifty four seconds, whatever that says, Just stay

719
00:35:50,758 --> 00:35:51,438
Speaker 5: right with your brother.

720
00:35:51,478 --> 00:35:52,838
Speaker 4: It's really good. Outstanding.

721
00:35:52,878 --> 00:35:55,918
Speaker 1: Congratulations, Thank you, Joe, you got it all right thanks

722
00:35:55,918 --> 00:35:59,038
Speaker 1: to Travis Bizana. He is one of the if not

723
00:35:59,158 --> 00:36:02,598
Speaker 1: the top hitter in college baseball this year. And when

724
00:36:02,638 --> 00:36:04,838
Speaker 1: we get back, Joe and I will wrap up our

725
00:36:04,918 --> 00:36:20,318
Speaker 1: thoughts all about Travis. Joe listening to Travis, I thought

726
00:36:20,358 --> 00:36:23,478
Speaker 1: about kind of pretending that I was a scout or

727
00:36:23,518 --> 00:36:25,638
Speaker 1: an executive with a major league team, and as you know,

728
00:36:25,878 --> 00:36:28,638
Speaker 1: they sit down with these college top prospects and kind

729
00:36:28,638 --> 00:36:30,678
Speaker 1: of pick their brains and try to learn something about

730
00:36:30,718 --> 00:36:33,758
Speaker 1: the player, not just from a scouting viewpoint, but what's

731
00:36:33,838 --> 00:36:36,158
Speaker 1: between the ears. And I got to tell you, if

732
00:36:36,198 --> 00:36:39,118
Speaker 1: you're any major league team sitting down to talk to Travis,

733
00:36:39,158 --> 00:36:44,038
Speaker 1: you're blown away by just his mannerism, the sophistication he

734
00:36:44,158 --> 00:36:46,878
Speaker 1: brings to the craft of baseball, and you can tell

735
00:36:47,358 --> 00:36:49,718
Speaker 1: this guy, Joe's a baseball rat. I mean, you don't

736
00:36:49,758 --> 00:36:51,598
Speaker 1: have to worry about this guy losing any kind of

737
00:36:51,598 --> 00:36:54,398
Speaker 1: an edge or a motor as he signs a professional contract.

738
00:36:54,438 --> 00:36:55,518
Speaker 2: He wants to be great.

739
00:36:55,598 --> 00:36:57,158
Speaker 1: I love the fact that he said he wanted to

740
00:36:57,198 --> 00:37:00,078
Speaker 1: be the best hitter in college baseball coming in. Don't

741
00:37:00,158 --> 00:37:02,758
Speaker 1: run away from expectations. You know all about that, Joe.

742
00:37:03,798 --> 00:37:05,398
Speaker 1: I was just super impressed.

743
00:37:05,838 --> 00:37:08,958
Speaker 5: I can't agree more. Man, I didn't know what to expect.

744
00:37:08,998 --> 00:37:10,598
Speaker 5: I know you set this up a little while last

745
00:37:10,638 --> 00:37:11,678
Speaker 5: week you told me about it.

746
00:37:13,078 --> 00:37:16,958
Speaker 4: I was the level at which he thinks is different.

747
00:37:17,958 --> 00:37:20,838
Speaker 5: The numbers you read early on about his progression from

748
00:37:20,838 --> 00:37:23,838
Speaker 5: his freshman year to where he's at right now or ridiculous.

749
00:37:25,118 --> 00:37:29,918
Speaker 5: But then you listen to him and you understand why. Gosh,

750
00:37:30,038 --> 00:37:32,918
Speaker 5: I thinking, like you talked about if I was an

751
00:37:32,918 --> 00:37:35,118
Speaker 5: executive listening, this is the interview I'm looking for.

752
00:37:35,678 --> 00:37:36,198
Speaker 4: And number one.

753
00:37:36,198 --> 00:37:38,438
Speaker 5: Number two, like, I couldn't set all that when I

754
00:37:38,518 --> 00:37:40,838
Speaker 5: was what is he twenty one whatever, he's nineteen twenty

755
00:37:40,838 --> 00:37:43,958
Speaker 5: twenty one. I didn't have those thoughts. We weren't nearly

756
00:37:43,998 --> 00:37:47,798
Speaker 5: that sophisticated when it came to a lot I'm talking

757
00:37:47,838 --> 00:37:53,518
Speaker 5: baseball now, there wasn't as much sophistication regarding how he

758
00:37:53,558 --> 00:37:56,198
Speaker 5: approaches his hitting. Just as an example, we didn't talk

759
00:37:56,278 --> 00:38:00,318
Speaker 5: much about his defense. He's really well thought out. He's

760
00:38:00,358 --> 00:38:04,038
Speaker 5: going to be successful, there's no question, there's not. I

761
00:38:04,078 --> 00:38:06,878
Speaker 5: don't know what the competition for number one looks like,

762
00:38:08,078 --> 00:38:10,678
Speaker 5: but it's going to be hard to imagine. I thought,

763
00:38:10,718 --> 00:38:14,678
Speaker 5: even having seen him play, just the numbers, just dissecting

764
00:38:14,678 --> 00:38:18,838
Speaker 5: the numbers themselves, Gosh, there's probably a pretty good chance

765
00:38:18,838 --> 00:38:21,478
Speaker 5: he's going to be one one. But that's impressive, man,

766
00:38:21,718 --> 00:38:25,158
Speaker 5: that's really impressive. They're a young man, understand himself that

767
00:38:25,198 --> 00:38:27,638
Speaker 5: when he used the word feel often, which I loved,

768
00:38:28,158 --> 00:38:31,238
Speaker 5: He's sounds like he's got a nice balance between what's

769
00:38:31,238 --> 00:38:35,358
Speaker 5: available now compared to just good old fashioned, you know,

770
00:38:35,398 --> 00:38:36,998
Speaker 5: just get in the batter's box and trying to beat

771
00:38:37,038 --> 00:38:40,318
Speaker 5: the other guy. There's everything to like about this. Felt

772
00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:41,798
Speaker 5: that that was a great get right there.

773
00:38:42,198 --> 00:38:45,038
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think actually there's another second basement one

774
00:38:45,078 --> 00:38:47,238
Speaker 1: from West Virginia who's also in the mix to be

775
00:38:47,278 --> 00:38:49,838
Speaker 1: the number one pick. That's rare to see second basement,

776
00:38:49,878 --> 00:38:52,438
Speaker 1: as I mentioned at the top of the draft, but

777
00:38:52,518 --> 00:38:55,278
Speaker 1: I can definitely see him going top three or four

778
00:38:55,478 --> 00:38:58,438
Speaker 1: and possibility of one. And again, once you sit down

779
00:38:58,478 --> 00:39:01,158
Speaker 1: with Travis, you realize that it's a good player and

780
00:39:01,158 --> 00:39:03,038
Speaker 1: it's a good head on his shoulders right there. And

781
00:39:03,118 --> 00:39:05,678
Speaker 1: we didn't mention Joe that, you know, in terms of

782
00:39:05,678 --> 00:39:07,318
Speaker 1: the work that he does, you made a great point

783
00:39:07,318 --> 00:39:09,478
Speaker 1: there about you know, he dives into a lot of

784
00:39:09,478 --> 00:39:11,398
Speaker 1: this stuff of the offseason. Right there's a lot of

785
00:39:11,478 --> 00:39:13,438
Speaker 1: fuel to what he does in the box, in game

786
00:39:13,478 --> 00:39:15,798
Speaker 1: time and in the season. The offseason is when he

787
00:39:15,838 --> 00:39:17,998
Speaker 1: dives into a lot of these numbers to get better.

788
00:39:18,398 --> 00:39:20,758
Speaker 1: And one of these things he did after his freshman year,

789
00:39:20,798 --> 00:39:23,478
Speaker 1: he wanted to steal more bases, so he started studying

790
00:39:23,518 --> 00:39:26,678
Speaker 1: the jump lead of Anthony Volpi and the Yankees, breaking

791
00:39:26,718 --> 00:39:29,598
Speaker 1: down some videos. He talked to track guys, he talked

792
00:39:29,598 --> 00:39:31,398
Speaker 1: to other guys who stole bases. He came back the

793
00:39:31,438 --> 00:39:34,598
Speaker 1: next year and stole a school record thirty six bases.

794
00:39:35,918 --> 00:39:38,718
Speaker 1: You know that that's another reason why I like the

795
00:39:38,798 --> 00:39:41,878
Speaker 1: ceiling of this kid, because he's hungry to get better

796
00:39:42,238 --> 00:39:43,558
Speaker 1: in every phase of the game.

797
00:39:43,918 --> 00:39:44,878
Speaker 4: Do you know his defense.

798
00:39:44,918 --> 00:39:47,318
Speaker 5: I mean you say second basement and the other kids

799
00:39:47,318 --> 00:39:51,918
Speaker 5: a second basement. Of these guys have any shortstop capabilities

800
00:39:51,958 --> 00:39:52,798
Speaker 5: abilities or is it?

801
00:39:53,518 --> 00:39:56,438
Speaker 1: I don't see that. Just in terms of arm strengths.

802
00:39:56,518 --> 00:39:59,398
Speaker 1: I mean, he can definitely play the outfield. He's enough

803
00:39:59,398 --> 00:40:01,638
Speaker 1: of an athlete and a runner. He can cover ground

804
00:40:01,678 --> 00:40:04,078
Speaker 1: and play the outfield. So to me, he's a he's

805
00:40:04,078 --> 00:40:07,398
Speaker 1: a second baseman outfielder. At this point, I would leave

806
00:40:07,438 --> 00:40:09,518
Speaker 1: him at second base and just tell him to go hit.

807
00:40:09,678 --> 00:40:11,838
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the bat's got to be big if we're

808
00:40:11,878 --> 00:40:13,198
Speaker 5: going to do that, right, Yeah.

809
00:40:13,198 --> 00:40:13,718
Speaker 2: I think so.

810
00:40:13,878 --> 00:40:16,558
Speaker 1: I think it's to me in one of his comms

811
00:40:16,678 --> 00:40:20,438
Speaker 1: is Edward Julianna in the Minnesota Twins. Not a plus defender,

812
00:40:20,478 --> 00:40:23,758
Speaker 1: but just a terrific left handed bat. And you just

813
00:40:23,758 --> 00:40:26,358
Speaker 1: put him at second base and enough of an athlete

814
00:40:26,398 --> 00:40:27,838
Speaker 1: where you start to put the work in and he

815
00:40:27,838 --> 00:40:30,038
Speaker 1: makes himself into a very good second basement. He's not

816
00:40:30,078 --> 00:40:32,358
Speaker 1: a below average second basement, and I think with time

817
00:40:32,398 --> 00:40:35,558
Speaker 1: he can be above average second basement. But the bat

818
00:40:35,598 --> 00:40:38,358
Speaker 1: definitely plays, no question about it. Like I said, I

819
00:40:38,438 --> 00:40:40,158
Speaker 1: love his setup in the box. This is a little

820
00:40:40,158 --> 00:40:42,918
Speaker 1: bit funky, you know, He's got the bat flat behind

821
00:40:42,958 --> 00:40:44,918
Speaker 1: him as he starts out, but he gets it raised

822
00:40:44,918 --> 00:40:48,398
Speaker 1: and loaded position really well with a high lay kick,

823
00:40:48,438 --> 00:40:51,478
Speaker 1: but it's not a lot of movement. The foot comes up,

824
00:40:51,878 --> 00:40:54,278
Speaker 1: you know, pretty high, and it comes straight down. He's

825
00:40:54,318 --> 00:40:58,398
Speaker 1: on time. Yeah, it's easy to project this kid. I

826
00:40:58,398 --> 00:41:00,718
Speaker 1: mean to me, Joe, when you're looking at players to

827
00:41:00,838 --> 00:41:03,718
Speaker 1: draft and they've hit in college, especially at this level.

828
00:41:04,798 --> 00:41:07,678
Speaker 1: You know, they're playing the best college baseball around and

829
00:41:07,958 --> 00:41:10,318
Speaker 1: you look at the approach, you know, the ability to

830
00:41:10,358 --> 00:41:12,198
Speaker 1: make contact as well as hit with power.

831
00:41:12,758 --> 00:41:14,158
Speaker 2: It's easily projectable.

832
00:41:14,358 --> 00:41:14,598
Speaker 4: Yeah.

833
00:41:14,758 --> 00:41:16,318
Speaker 5: Just I'm going to check it out when I get

834
00:41:16,358 --> 00:41:18,478
Speaker 5: a chance now. But to the bat starts flat, he

835
00:41:18,558 --> 00:41:20,158
Speaker 5: just got to get it up early enough, and the

836
00:41:20,198 --> 00:41:23,118
Speaker 5: foot's got to get down early enough. I'm I'm just

837
00:41:23,158 --> 00:41:25,118
Speaker 5: talking to him right there, and I know he knows that,

838
00:41:25,318 --> 00:41:27,238
Speaker 5: but I would think that the only thing that could

839
00:41:27,238 --> 00:41:29,198
Speaker 5: go wrong would be that. And then he you brought

840
00:41:29,238 --> 00:41:31,638
Speaker 5: up the cricket part of it, the low ball, kind

841
00:41:31,638 --> 00:41:34,478
Speaker 5: of like a hockey player, and then it morphed into

842
00:41:34,518 --> 00:41:36,078
Speaker 5: the second year. We got better at the high ball

843
00:41:36,118 --> 00:41:38,518
Speaker 5: because probably they were just pitching them elevated fastballs at

844
00:41:38,518 --> 00:41:41,198
Speaker 5: that point and he made the adjustment for that too.

845
00:41:41,278 --> 00:41:44,198
Speaker 5: To this point, it seems so it sounds like like

846
00:41:44,198 --> 00:41:47,918
Speaker 5: again he understands he's got and I like quirkiness. I mean,

847
00:41:47,958 --> 00:41:49,598
Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of great players that have

848
00:41:49,598 --> 00:41:51,678
Speaker 5: brought this up with you in the past. There's guys

849
00:41:51,678 --> 00:41:53,438
Speaker 5: that do things again I used the word indigenous to

850
00:41:53,478 --> 00:41:56,238
Speaker 5: themselves that are really good.

851
00:41:56,398 --> 00:41:58,678
Speaker 4: I mean, it's things you don't just teach that. When

852
00:41:58,678 --> 00:41:59,398
Speaker 4: the kid comes.

853
00:41:59,198 --> 00:42:02,358
Speaker 5: Down from Mars the spaceship lands, he gets out he

854
00:42:02,398 --> 00:42:04,798
Speaker 5: wants to be a baseball player, you pretty much go

855
00:42:04,958 --> 00:42:08,278
Speaker 5: to the ABC's of one, two, three, four. You don't

856
00:42:08,598 --> 00:42:10,638
Speaker 5: there's not a quirkiness about that. You always go from

857
00:42:10,638 --> 00:42:14,518
Speaker 5: the basic fundamental mechanics. But when guys show up like

858
00:42:14,598 --> 00:42:17,918
Speaker 5: himself grew up in Australia, wasn't around a lot of instruction,

859
00:42:18,518 --> 00:42:20,758
Speaker 5: and then just develop this feel for what he does

860
00:42:20,798 --> 00:42:22,518
Speaker 5: things And how do I get ready? How do you

861
00:42:22,558 --> 00:42:25,478
Speaker 5: get my foot done in time? This feels nice with

862
00:42:25,558 --> 00:42:27,438
Speaker 5: my bat laying flat. I just but I know I

863
00:42:27,478 --> 00:42:29,718
Speaker 5: got to get it up quick otherwise I'm late, late late.

864
00:42:30,438 --> 00:42:32,238
Speaker 5: Things that he's figured out on his own, I think

865
00:42:32,238 --> 00:42:35,078
Speaker 5: it's interesting. But now I'm a fan. I got to

866
00:42:35,118 --> 00:42:37,318
Speaker 5: watch them now anytime I get a chance to watch

867
00:42:37,358 --> 00:42:40,198
Speaker 5: him on a tube by shoo. But everything he talks

868
00:42:40,238 --> 00:42:42,438
Speaker 5: about makes sense, and that's that's the part I like.

869
00:42:42,678 --> 00:42:44,518
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, I love what you just said though about

870
00:42:44,558 --> 00:42:47,798
Speaker 1: the quirkiness. That's not a negative. Sometimes that's a feature.

871
00:42:49,398 --> 00:42:51,598
Speaker 1: Let guys be who they are until you at the

872
00:42:51,638 --> 00:42:54,118
Speaker 1: point where you know it's survival mode. You're failing to

873
00:42:54,118 --> 00:42:57,238
Speaker 1: the point where something needs to change drastically. I've always

874
00:42:57,278 --> 00:42:58,798
Speaker 1: said this, Joe, and I think it's true even in

875
00:42:58,838 --> 00:43:02,558
Speaker 1: professional baseball, but especially on the amateur side. More players

876
00:43:02,598 --> 00:43:06,878
Speaker 1: have been hurt by over coaching than under coaching, more

877
00:43:06,918 --> 00:43:10,558
Speaker 1: players have been heard by over coaching than under coaching.

878
00:43:10,678 --> 00:43:12,718
Speaker 1: And I love the fact that this kid grew up

879
00:43:13,158 --> 00:43:16,798
Speaker 1: kind of making his own way and not getting five

880
00:43:16,878 --> 00:43:20,158
Speaker 1: hundred bats a year, and some cookie cutter instructor is

881
00:43:20,198 --> 00:43:23,638
Speaker 1: telling him how to hit and listen. He's refining everything,

882
00:43:23,678 --> 00:43:26,358
Speaker 1: he's putting the work in. He's got mentors, he's got coaches.

883
00:43:26,398 --> 00:43:28,878
Speaker 1: That's all great, But I don't feel like he's been

884
00:43:28,998 --> 00:43:31,918
Speaker 1: overwhelmed as far as the instructional side, which is a

885
00:43:31,918 --> 00:43:32,278
Speaker 1: good thing.

886
00:43:32,518 --> 00:43:34,598
Speaker 5: No, it almost sounds like you grew up in a

887
00:43:34,638 --> 00:43:37,918
Speaker 5: cold climbing in North America. The way is past. As

888
00:43:37,958 --> 00:43:40,718
Speaker 5: regarding a number of games played, I was expecting him

889
00:43:40,758 --> 00:43:43,758
Speaker 5: to like when we started it out about asking about

890
00:43:43,798 --> 00:43:46,998
Speaker 5: mentors and coaches and guys that had helped him in

891
00:43:47,038 --> 00:43:48,838
Speaker 5: the past. I was expecting a longer list, or a

892
00:43:48,878 --> 00:43:52,478
Speaker 5: more influential list. In a sense, he didn't downplay it.

893
00:43:52,478 --> 00:43:54,158
Speaker 5: I mean, there's guys there that he definitely looked up

894
00:43:54,158 --> 00:43:56,158
Speaker 5: to and that would help them. But at the end

895
00:43:56,158 --> 00:43:57,878
Speaker 5: of the day, it sounds like he figured it out

896
00:43:57,878 --> 00:44:00,118
Speaker 5: for himself, which to me is the best way to

897
00:44:00,278 --> 00:44:02,078
Speaker 5: learn anything is to figure it out for yourself.

898
00:44:02,118 --> 00:44:05,158
Speaker 4: It's I can't teach you anything, I can only make

899
00:44:05,238 --> 00:44:06,358
Speaker 4: you think kind of a thing.

900
00:44:06,398 --> 00:44:09,038
Speaker 5: And the fact that he's in the meditation and is

901
00:44:09,518 --> 00:44:12,558
Speaker 5: recognized the need to slow things down, he's done. Gosh,

902
00:44:12,838 --> 00:44:15,318
Speaker 5: the play I love the playbook. I love his playbook, man.

903
00:44:15,438 --> 00:44:18,638
Speaker 5: I would uh, the playbook's gonna get a lot of

904
00:44:18,678 --> 00:44:21,438
Speaker 5: play in the future as he gets to be more

905
00:44:21,478 --> 00:44:24,638
Speaker 5: highly recognized. If he is the number one one he

906
00:44:24,718 --> 00:44:27,158
Speaker 5: goes out there, he's very successful. That playbook is going

907
00:44:27,238 --> 00:44:28,238
Speaker 5: to become very popular.

908
00:44:28,358 --> 00:44:30,158
Speaker 2: Well, we've got something to keep an eye on. A

909
00:44:30,198 --> 00:44:30,918
Speaker 2: couple of fans.

910
00:44:30,958 --> 00:44:34,318
Speaker 1: I'm sure besides us are now going to root for

911
00:44:34,358 --> 00:44:38,078
Speaker 1: Travis and his stick here along the college baseball season

912
00:44:38,158 --> 00:44:41,038
Speaker 1: and through the Major League draft this summer. It's it

913
00:44:41,118 --> 00:44:43,198
Speaker 1: was our pleasure just kind of picking his brain. We

914
00:44:43,278 --> 00:44:45,718
Speaker 1: learned a lot listening from this young man. That's how

915
00:44:45,758 --> 00:44:48,158
Speaker 1: dialed in he is. So that being said, Joe, I'm

916
00:44:48,158 --> 00:44:49,878
Speaker 1: and ask you what you always do for us here,

917
00:44:49,918 --> 00:44:52,438
Speaker 1: and that's to take us out with something very profound.

918
00:44:52,918 --> 00:44:57,438
Speaker 5: It is profundo profundo. I just happened upon this guy,

919
00:44:57,518 --> 00:45:00,998
Speaker 5: roy T Bennett. I guess he's from South Africa. You know, Australia.

920
00:45:01,078 --> 00:45:03,278
Speaker 5: They've got a little accent down there in South Africa too,

921
00:45:03,318 --> 00:45:06,678
Speaker 5: But kind of like a real positive thinker. I didn't

922
00:45:06,718 --> 00:45:10,598
Speaker 5: didn't realize this and lit little research on him. These

923
00:45:10,598 --> 00:45:13,838
Speaker 5: focuses on living fully in the presence. It's not success,

924
00:45:14,318 --> 00:45:17,238
Speaker 5: it's not how high you have client, but how you

925
00:45:17,238 --> 00:45:19,758
Speaker 5: make a positive difference in the world. That's philosophically where

926
00:45:19,758 --> 00:45:23,358
Speaker 5: the guy comes from. So anyway, the quote is follow

927
00:45:23,358 --> 00:45:26,678
Speaker 5: your heart, listen to your interervoice, stop caring about what

928
00:45:26,718 --> 00:45:29,958
Speaker 5: others think. Mister roy T Bennett, I mean, you know

929
00:45:29,998 --> 00:45:31,518
Speaker 5: you know me well enough to know that I love

930
00:45:31,598 --> 00:45:34,758
Speaker 5: that kind of individualistic component to it. It's not like

931
00:45:34,838 --> 00:45:38,518
Speaker 5: you're chewing anybody else, it's not like you're pushing anybody away.

932
00:45:39,838 --> 00:45:43,118
Speaker 5: But to listen to your inner voice. To me, while

933
00:45:43,358 --> 00:45:45,878
Speaker 5: probably one of the most important qualities any of us

934
00:45:45,958 --> 00:45:50,078
Speaker 5: can have in the world of influencers, and everybody wanted

935
00:45:50,118 --> 00:45:53,038
Speaker 5: to be like everybody else, and we're, you know, the

936
00:45:53,718 --> 00:45:55,998
Speaker 5: blurred edges to the point where everybody wants to be

937
00:45:56,078 --> 00:46:00,038
Speaker 5: the same, individuality to me still really sticks out. I

938
00:46:00,118 --> 00:46:01,478
Speaker 5: want to read the paper in the morning, I look

939
00:46:01,518 --> 00:46:04,318
Speaker 5: for articles just I just look for article. But then

940
00:46:04,318 --> 00:46:06,998
Speaker 5: when I find the one about more of the individuality

941
00:46:06,998 --> 00:46:10,438
Speaker 5: of a person and focused on really what he believes

942
00:46:10,478 --> 00:46:14,118
Speaker 5: in or she believes in and throws it out there strongly,

943
00:46:14,398 --> 00:46:17,918
Speaker 5: I really I kind of identify with that. So anyway,

944
00:46:18,638 --> 00:46:20,438
Speaker 5: right T. Bennett, I got to follow this guy from

945
00:46:20,438 --> 00:46:22,758
Speaker 5: now on a little bit. He's a positive thinker and

946
00:46:22,798 --> 00:46:24,718
Speaker 5: he's into the individual and I kind of like that.

947
00:46:25,198 --> 00:46:25,358
Speaker 3: Yeah.

948
00:46:25,398 --> 00:46:25,798
Speaker 2: I love that.

949
00:46:25,838 --> 00:46:28,118
Speaker 1: It's a good reminder that, you know, all of us

950
00:46:28,158 --> 00:46:30,238
Speaker 1: have an inner compass and a lot of times we

951
00:46:30,318 --> 00:46:32,678
Speaker 1: just don't pay attention to it because we're so much

952
00:46:32,838 --> 00:46:36,478
Speaker 1: dialed into the exterior and what as Royd just said

953
00:46:36,478 --> 00:46:39,998
Speaker 1: there what other people think when looking within? There's a

954
00:46:39,998 --> 00:46:42,398
Speaker 1: lot of answers right there. If you follow your soul

955
00:46:42,438 --> 00:46:45,638
Speaker 1: and your heart, your mind, you can find some answers there.

956
00:46:45,798 --> 00:46:48,158
Speaker 1: And in the meantime, Joe, I think I'm gonna put

957
00:46:48,198 --> 00:46:49,438
Speaker 1: on a little midnight Oil.

958
00:46:49,838 --> 00:46:52,198
Speaker 4: You cool with that, Ben, I've never heard of it.

959
00:46:52,278 --> 00:46:53,758
Speaker 4: I love the name. Are you kidding me?

960
00:46:54,238 --> 00:46:54,518
Speaker 5: The name?

961
00:46:54,958 --> 00:46:55,158
Speaker 4: Hell?

962
00:46:55,318 --> 00:46:58,398
Speaker 5: I mean, oh my goodness, I love the name though,

963
00:46:58,878 --> 00:47:00,278
Speaker 5: burning the midnight Oil.

964
00:47:00,878 --> 00:47:02,878
Speaker 4: I've done it. I've got it. Joe.

965
00:47:02,918 --> 00:47:04,598
Speaker 2: You got to get some night oil.

966
00:47:04,718 --> 00:47:07,038
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you you will be rolling down your

967
00:47:07,038 --> 00:47:11,478
Speaker 1: windows and cranking up the music. This is fine for you, Joe.

968
00:47:11,518 --> 00:47:13,838
Speaker 1: You will thank me later. I know where your.

969
00:47:13,798 --> 00:47:17,678
Speaker 2: Rock and roll heart lies. Midnight Oil is right.

970
00:47:17,558 --> 00:47:19,438
Speaker 5: And so I'm gonna stream it right after we get

971
00:47:19,438 --> 00:47:19,838
Speaker 5: done with this.

972
00:47:19,918 --> 00:47:21,478
Speaker 4: I got a big old speaker downstairs.

973
00:47:21,518 --> 00:47:22,478
Speaker 3: I'm going to plow it out.

974
00:47:22,918 --> 00:47:23,718
Speaker 4: Midnight Oil.

975
00:47:23,998 --> 00:47:26,038
Speaker 5: Love the name, and like I've said, and you've done

976
00:47:26,078 --> 00:47:29,278
Speaker 5: it too, We've both burnt the midnight.

977
00:47:28,918 --> 00:47:31,038
Speaker 4: Oil, yes, Sarah, whether it.

978
00:47:30,998 --> 00:47:33,518
Speaker 5: Was for pleasure or for actually working. So it's a

979
00:47:33,638 --> 00:47:35,318
Speaker 5: pretty cool, great name, great title.

980
00:47:35,598 --> 00:47:37,518
Speaker 1: That's as much midnight oil as we have for this

981
00:47:37,718 --> 00:47:38,718
Speaker 1: edition of the Book of Joe.

982
00:47:38,718 --> 00:47:39,918
Speaker 2: We'll see you next time, Joe.

983
00:47:39,998 --> 00:47:48,438
Speaker 5: Thanks Tommy, be well Buddy.

984
00:47:49,238 --> 00:47:52,438
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985
00:47:52,678 --> 00:47:56,478
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986
00:47:56,558 --> 00:47:59,518
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