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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we can't

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Speaker 1: imagine teeing off with a full gallery of people lining both.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the folks at the gamebridge proram who

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Speaker 1: didn't hit a spectator because I just know somebody'd be

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Speaker 1: eating my shank. It's Thursday, November thirteenth, and on today's show,

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Speaker 1: we'll be chatting with newly announced Toronto Tempo head coach

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Speaker 1: Sandy Brondelo about trying to build a team during a

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Speaker 1: very uncertain offseason, why her ouster from the New York

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Speaker 1: Liberty didn't come as a surprise, and the barriers keeping

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Speaker 1: women and former players out of the coaching ranks. Plus

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Speaker 1: more evidence this isn't a backup plan. The road to

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Speaker 1: the College Cup begins here, and building an arena too

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Speaker 1: small for women. It's all coming up right after this

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Speaker 1: welcome back slices. Here's what you need to know today.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with college soccer. The sixty four team NCAA

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Speaker 1: tournament is here. The bracket includes thirty teams that received

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Speaker 1: automatic bids for winning their conference tournament and thirty four

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Speaker 1: teams that received at large bits. Leading the way as

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Speaker 1: number one ranked Stanford, with the program posting a sixteen win,

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Speaker 1: seeds include Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, and Virginia. Round one gets

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Speaker 1: underwe on Friday afternoon, and the tournament continues through the

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Speaker 1: weekend of December fifth through eighth, with Kansas City, Missouri,

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Speaker 1: playing host to this year's College Cup. We'll link to

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Speaker 1: the full schedule and bracket in the show notes. More

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Speaker 1: college soccer. One of the programs that made the NCAA

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Speaker 1: Tournament is the University of Washington, which is playing following

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Speaker 1: the passing of former goalkeeper Mia Hammont. Hammett, who played

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Speaker 1: in which Washington was the top seed. The Huskies went

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Speaker 1: on to defeat Michigan State in penalty kicks in Sunday's

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Speaker 1: Big Ten championship game, with both teams wearing orange ribbons,

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Speaker 1: The Huskies earned a number four seed in the NCAA

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Speaker 1: this Friday. In a statement following Hammett's death, head coach

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Speaker 1: Nicole Van Dyke celebrated her contributions to the team, saying quote,

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Speaker 1: Mia was the heart of our program, someone who lifted

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Speaker 1: Mia made us all better people, and her impact will

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Speaker 1: be felt in this program and in all of our

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Speaker 1: lives forever end quote. You likely notice tributes to Hammond

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Speaker 1: Her impact on the game and those who play it

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Speaker 2: The Oklahoma City Spark.

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Speaker 1: The Spark were originally part of the Women's Pro Fast

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Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty three. The team's founder, Tina Floyd,

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Speaker 1: Coach Amber Flores, who also serves as head coach of

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Speaker 1: in UCLA and an assistant with last year's AUSL champs,

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Speaker 1: the Talents. The contracts of those who played for the

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Speaker 1: new roster. The Spark and the Cascade join last year's

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Speaker 1: teams the Talents, Bandits, Blaze, and Volts for the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six AUSL season. As the league prepares for a

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Speaker 1: permanent homes of the remaining four teams to basketball. Alyssa

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Speaker 1: Bluter's analysis during a Big ten matchup between number twenty

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Speaker 2: We'll link to the full college Hoops.

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Speaker 1: Schedule in the show notes, and if you miss last

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Speaker 1: Friday's interview with Blueter, make sure to go back and listen.

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Speaker 2: It is a fun one.

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Speaker 1: The Onica by Gainbridge, the last regular season event on

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Speaker 1: the LPGA calendar, tease off today with a three point

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Speaker 1: two to five million dollar perse on the line. Nelly

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Speaker 1: Corda headlines the field at number two in the Rolex

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Speaker 1: Women's World Golf rankings. Geno Tizikoul, the current world number one,

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Speaker 1: the Golf Channel and on Wednesday. Indiana feverstar Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 1: player and sponsor invite Lauren Wynn. Clark had quite the

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Speaker 1: impressive entourage, as Olympic gold medalist Brianna Scurry, NASCAR's Carson

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Speaker 1: of the high jinks, including Cunningham drilling a spectator with

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Speaker 1: it in the show notes to the PWHL. There's uncertainty

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Speaker 3: Take a listen, and what's interesting, I think over the

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Speaker 3: this might be the most disappointing thing I have ever seen.

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Speaker 3: In just two short years, two short years, we have

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Speaker 2: And we've done it with one arm.

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Speaker 4: Tied behind our backs.

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Speaker 3: And I bring this up because attendance has been a

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Speaker 3: big conversation the Outawa sixty sevens. They play eighty five

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Speaker 3: last season thirty percent. When we get those same high

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Speaker 3: Because SEG is undercutting its own potential or make revenue.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been that inspired listening to our four minute

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Speaker 1: twenty six of a city council meeting since Leslie Noe

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Speaker 1: neighboring Eagleton citizens said Leslie quote, it was the first

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Speaker 1: getting sidetracked. Amy sheer Autawa Charge seriously though, no jokes.

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Speaker 1: plans to work with the PWHL to make sure the

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Speaker 1: athletics Hailey Salvian that includes more details. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: which begins next week.

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Speaker 2: Also shout out to two.

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Speaker 1: Slices, Emily Niles and Megan Werner for writing in about

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Speaker 1: this situation. Wrote Emily quote, some counselors who voted for

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Speaker 1: this plan pretend the Charge can move into the current

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Speaker 1: arena for the NHL's Ottawa Senators, a move that would

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Speaker 1: move the team thirty kilometers away from its downtown base.

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Speaker 1: The nearly one hour drive two hours by transit has

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Speaker 1: made the Senators one of the lowest attended franchises in

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Speaker 2: Make it make sense, end quote.

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Speaker 1: Make it make sense, indeed, especially the kilometers part, because

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Speaker 1: we're not really sure how far that is. We'll keep

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Speaker 1: you posted as we learn more about the situation. Finally,

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Speaker 1: a little more Canadian sports news. The Northern Super Leagu's

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Speaker 1: championship game is officially set. After snow postponed the second

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Speaker 1: semi final match between AFC Toronto and the Montreal Roses

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, the two teams instead kicked off on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Toronto entered Game two with a two to zero lead

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Speaker 1: after Game one, and thanks to a hat trick from

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Speaker 1: Esther Ocuronquo won the two legged series by an aggregate

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Speaker 1: which is this Saturday at Bimo Field in Toronto.

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Speaker 2: Tune in to see which team hoists the inaugural Diana B.

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Speaker 1: But after that, it's Sandy Brundello.

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Speaker 1: She's the new head coach of the WNBA expansion team,

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Speaker 4: Hi, Sandy, you had everything in that thanks thanks for

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Speaker 1: How of the first few weeks in Toronto, Bunn, are

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Speaker 1: I've been there the last three years in a row

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Speaker 5: You know, obviously I've taken over in Phoenix and we

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Speaker 4: But I am also the Australian head.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot like Monica. You know, it really excites

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Speaker 5: this is what we're talking about. World class, like very

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00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 5: detail oriented, but knowing it's not just one way.

437
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 4: There's still the eye tests there.

438
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 5: So they're understanding it because they've been around basketball for

439
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 5: quite some time. So Monic is just listening to what

440
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 5: we kind of need, what I kind of need in

441
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Speaker 5: a player, which I think you know over the years

442
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 5: what success look like, Well you really need to land

443
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 5: some really good talented players. And yes, I do focus

444
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 5: on defense, So you need some tough players, you need

445
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 5: some versatile players. That certainly helps. But then putting a

446
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 5: talented roster together. Obviously you have your call group, but

447
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 5: then where's the complementary pieces that can play the style

448
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 5: that which I think could be. You know, it could

449
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 5: help us win because we want to perform at a

450
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Speaker 5: high level. I mean, that's the challenge from every team

451
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 5: and we're just starting from the ground zero. But with

452
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Speaker 5: the CBA, there are a lot of free agents, so

453
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 5: hopefully we can sell them on the vision. You know,

454
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 5: obviously my reputation in the league, hopefully they would like

455
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 5: to play for me being a former player, but also

456
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 5: the city of Toronto. I think there's so much to

457
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 5: offer for them off the court because it is a

458
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 5: whole new country in their branding. You know, you compete

459
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Speaker 5: against other brands in America, but they've got all of

460
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Speaker 5: the Canada.

461
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Speaker 4: So I'm excited to that's a good way that leads us.

462
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Speaker 1: That's a great point, being the first being part of

463
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Speaker 1: something that fans are hungry for, being part of a

464
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Speaker 1: country that has a whole bunch of sponsorships and money

465
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Speaker 1: to throw at some folks that are new to the space.

466
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Speaker 2: That's really smart.

467
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Speaker 1: And I actually think the Golden State Valkyries helped you

468
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Speaker 1: out for a number of reasons. One because they proved

469
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Speaker 1: that an expansion team can have success on the court

470
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Speaker 1: immediately too, because a lot of I think free agents

471
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Speaker 1: probably look back afterwards and thought, whoops, that would have

472
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Speaker 1: been a very cool thing to be a part of

473
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Speaker 1: from the start, and not a lot of a bit

474
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Speaker 1: which we were surprised by here at the show. And

475
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Speaker 1: I have to admit Ohama nine and I had some

476
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Speaker 1: questions and doubts about the team she was putting together,

477
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Speaker 1: and boy was I shut up by the product on

478
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Speaker 1: the court. And so you have a proof of concept

479
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Speaker 1: that happened just this past season.

480
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Speaker 2: If you can tell them, don't you want that? He

481
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Speaker 2: and don't you want that? With me?

482
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Speaker 1: And to your point, you're trying to build the team

483
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Speaker 1: at a very uncertain time in league history, with CBA

484
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Speaker 1: negotiations going on. Nearly every single veteran player in the

485
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Speaker 1: w is unsigned for the twenty twenty six season. So

486
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Speaker 1: it's complicated because when is the expansion draft, what are

487
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Speaker 1: the rules going to be, how many players will be protected?

488
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Speaker 1: How will it work if no one's on a contract,

489
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Speaker 1: but also exciting because there's a whole mess of players

490
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Speaker 1: that you get to pick from way more than any

491
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Speaker 1: other year. So how are you trying to prepare for

492
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Speaker 1: this expansion draft and for a free agency with such

493
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Speaker 1: a murky timeline right now?

494
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean being really intentional about valuating all the

495
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Speaker 5: talent that they have through you know what we all see.

496
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Speaker 5: But also for analytics, I think that's big, just diving

497
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Speaker 5: into the strategy.

498
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Speaker 4: What's an expansion draft? What could it look like?

499
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Speaker 5: And remember, unlike the Golden State team, you know, we

500
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Speaker 5: also have to compete against the Portland Fire. There's two

501
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 5: expansion teams, so you know, there's we have to know

502
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Speaker 5: what is the process that looks like.

503
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Speaker 4: But I'm really enjoying just the strategy a part of it.

504
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Speaker 5: Let's be prepared as much as we can so we're

505
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 5: all we can do now is control the controllables, do

506
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 5: our preparation, making sure that we're you know, evaluating all

507
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 5: these free agents and obviously some players can still be called,

508
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 5: but we don't know what the CBA looks like. But

509
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 5: still it's an exciting time because it's all new and

510
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 5: the front office, I mean, they've been right I've really

511
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Speaker 5: loved the engagement that and like, I'm a real collaborator.

512
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Speaker 4: Yes, there's some players.

513
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Speaker 5: That I want, but you know, they're doing all the

514
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Speaker 5: work behind the scenes. They give us as much information

515
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Speaker 5: and knowledge as we can in preparation for whenever it happens.

516
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Speaker 1: My brain immediately went to like a giant board with

517
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Speaker 1: names on it, and then I remember that the year

518
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Speaker 1: is twenty twenty five and it's definitely inside the computer.

519
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Speaker 2: So what are you actually like using?

520
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 1: Is there a proprietary software for like player rankings and scouting?

521
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: Is are there algorithms as AI spitting out summaries like

522
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: what actually goes into right now looking at almost an

523
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: entire league of vents and being able to rank and prioritize.

524
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, I think the Tempo has hired some really

525
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 5: good people. Eli was He was a former assistant GM

526
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 5: of the La Sparks and just been around the league

527
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 5: for quite some time and great in the analytical space.

528
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 5: But then there's a data scientist Lauren Mannis, and you've

529
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Speaker 5: got Mark Schindler.

530
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Speaker 4: So really just I mean just.

531
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Speaker 5: Young talented people, and you know when they put all

532
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Speaker 5: these data things, you know, I don't know what nerds.

533
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 2: How he's got some nerds on the case.

534
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 5: But you know, no basketball, and I think that's important

535
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 5: for me. You can tell me i'mlate, but how does

536
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 5: that translate to this? And you know, having an open perspective,

537
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 5: because it's important that's knowledge, isn't it.

538
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 4: But I've just really enjoyed their insight.

539
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 5: Into the process of the analytics and what we're tracking out,

540
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 5: but understanding you know, there's still the eye tests that

541
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 5: we have to take into calculation, and we'll just keep

542
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 5: doing our work and preparing the best as we can.

543
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Speaker 1: Many moons ago on this show, well not many moons

544
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Speaker 1: because we've only had a show for a year and

545
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: a half. So many months ago we tried to dig

546
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: up like the tampering rules in the WNBA, and it

547
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: was really hard to find and complicated. So I don't

548
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: want to get you in trouble, so hopefully you know

549
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: the rules. But like, are is anyone from the tempo

550
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: allowed to talk to any players right now?

551
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 4: No?

552
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: Okay, So you really can only prepare from your end.

553
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: You can't actually do any quote unquote recruiting or talking,

554
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: but you can, through amazing posts on social media, lower

555
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: people and start to create a you know, kind of

556
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: magic about what's going on above the border and that's

557
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: about him something.

558
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Speaker 4: Wow.

559
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, you're lucky you get to focus on the

560
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: basketball side, the x's and o's, because they know no borders.

561
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: But you still do want to connect with fans and

562
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Speaker 1: understand the community you're in. So who are you leaning

563
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: on to teach you about Canadian culture and understand the

564
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Speaker 1: references and the history and the things around you.

565
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Speaker 5: I still have more to learn, obviously, but it's been

566
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 5: fun just being connected to the community and you know,

567
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 5: obviously the locals that are there. And I realized no

568
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 5: one had told me that before my press conference that

569
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Speaker 5: it's too ron to. I was going to Toronto, Toronto, Toronto. Yeah,

570
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Speaker 5: so I I know that just take one Someone told.

571
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Speaker 4: Me, yeah, one tea. But you know, Australians like you

572
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 4: like to y Okay, it's a tea.

573
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Speaker 5: That's how we have to do it. And I'm like, okay,

574
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Speaker 5: that's good to know. Now my brain has to be

575
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 5: wrapped around it. It's like Toronto, Toronto. But yeah, just

576
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 5: obviously it's a very diverse community and I love that.

577
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Speaker 5: You know, I'm you know, I'm international as well too.

578
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 5: There's like I speaking to Darko, the Raptors coach, he said,

579
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 5: there's fifty thousand Serbians there. My driver was Hungary and

580
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 5: he says there's fifty thousand. I actually chat GPT how

581
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 5: many Australians. There's only five thousand, so we need to

582
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 5: work on getting that number up, but you know, just

583
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Speaker 5: learning a little bit more. We will play games in

584
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Speaker 5: Vancouver and Montreal, so I get you know, it'll be

585
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 5: great just obviously to meet those fans, but they've already

586
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 5: had games and it's been sellout.

587
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 4: So really excited just to you know, to take out

588
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 4: a great game into different cities and create more exposure.

589
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Speaker 1: I was at the first preseason exhibition game in Toronto,

590
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: sitting courtside. They clearly need to work on the celeb

591
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: game because I was on the JumboTron with my name fonted,

592
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: which means it was me and Serge Ibaka, and I'm like,

593
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: all right, we're going to work on the celebs. You know,

594
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: we know the Liberty had celebrity rows, so we got

595
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: to work on that for Toronto.

596
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Speaker 2: I don't I'm not worried.

597
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: About it once the games get going, because even the

598
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: second game up there was really incredible. Speaking of New York,

599
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: you're in Toronto, because you're not in New York anymore.

600
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: The Liberty let you go one season after you brought

601
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 1: the franchise its first ever title.

602
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 2: It was an absolute shock to me and most others.

603
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Speaker 2: In fact, when the news hit.

604
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I said exactly what Brianna Stewart said

605
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: in that much memed presser moment where she.

606
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Speaker 2: Just said, what the fu were you ash? Act as

607
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: I was, and most folks were.

608
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 5: No, I was not really saw I wasn't. Yeah, no,

609
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 5: I saw it coming. I felt, you know, obviously they

610
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 5: want to win. It's a great organization, and you know,

611
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 5: we didn't have the success that you know.

612
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 4: Ideally we would have loved to have this year.

613
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 5: But you know, I felt, you know, if we didn't,

614
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 5: even if we would have won, I don't know if

615
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 5: I would have stayed there. But and that's a part

616
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 5: of the business. It's I get that, I'm old enough

617
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 5: to know that. Obviously, it's always sad when something finishes,

618
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 5: but I kind of was excited about what could come

619
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 5: next as well.

620
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: That's interesting because I mean there were so many injuries

621
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: that I don't think anybody thought it was on you

622
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: to not win back to back titles, which is already

623
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: so difficult, but especially with all the injuries. You know,

624
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: that quote from Branda happened during the final press conference

625
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: of the season. Was right after the team's first round

626
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: lost in the playoffs, which, to be fair, a lot

627
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: of teams started skipping exit interviews. So it's like, if

628
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: you don't want someone to get asked that right after

629
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: they lose, then make sure you're making sure they're available

630
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: another time. And if they're not, they're going to get

631
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: that question right after they last. What were your thoughts

632
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: when you heard the question ask? Did you already know

633
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 1: the rumblings? And so were you trying to keep your

634
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: lip tape? Like, oh, Brianna, don't say too much because

635
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: I think they might be right.

636
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: This reporter was asking this.

637
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 5: Well, obviously they knew what was going on. And of course,

638
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm I'm an old woman. I've been doing

639
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 5: this the same time.

640
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: You're not that old.

641
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: I actually am young. I just feel I've been here

642
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: for quite some time.

643
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 5: I'm smart enough to understand the writings on the wall,

644
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 5: and you know, it's unfortunate, but like I said, I'm

645
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 5: this this is a business and if they feel that

646
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 5: I'm not going to be the next you know, the

647
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 5: best coach for the team, and so be it. You know,

648
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 5: I'd I want to be in a situation where I

649
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 5: you know, obviously can you know, put my handprint all

650
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 5: over and when they fail, it is me. And you know,

651
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 5: it was that tough year.

652
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: I agree.

653
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 5: I think it was really hard for us to get

654
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 5: the continuity with our our you know, best players being

655
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 5: injured and for the whole year, you know, and it

656
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 5: was just a little too late. And you know, I

657
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 5: think with a healthier group, I think we still could

658
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 5: have had a real good chance to go again. But

659
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 5: it's a what if and it's not something I look

660
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: back on with regret. I look back with a lot

661
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 5: of fondness in the four years and to be able

662
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 5: to win the you know obviously that bring the first

663
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 5: championship to New York as their head coach, well that

664
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 5: will always be special to me and living in New York,

665
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 5: experiencing New York. But what just how much everyone loved

666
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 5: the Liberty and it was you know, I just got

667
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 5: to meet some really amazing people and you know, obviously

668
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 5: you'll miss parts of it, but I'm excited about this

669
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 5: next adventure as well.

670
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the strides the team took in the time

671
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: you were there, it was really impressive. I think I'm

672
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: most worried about our mutual friend Renee Stubbs, who was

673
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: really mad and is going to miss sneaking videos of

674
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: you dancing in the background of things onto your Instagram story.

675
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: That's where I saw most of your best moves was that,

676
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 1: you know, Chelsea handler parties or postgame celebrations that that

677
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: you happen to be be in. I knew you weren't

678
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: posting them, but Renee always does. She can be counted

679
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: on for that.

680
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: She does. She does. It's never me posting any much.

681
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: You know. You mentioned it actually earlier in the interview.

682
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: One of the things you preached to your team's as consistency,

683
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: never too high, never too low. How do you channel

684
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: that in a tough time like the days after the

685
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: Liberty Spirit. Are you able to apply that to yourself

686
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: or do you let yourself have a little powdy, frustrated

687
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: moment before you're like, all right and we're back.

688
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

689
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: No.

690
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 5: To be quite honest, I kind of knew it was

691
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 5: leading that way, and you know, I was, I was fine,

692
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 5: you know, I'm going to miss the players. I think

693
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: I had to, you miss the players, like because I

694
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 5: had the opportunity to coach some of the best and

695
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 5: they're just great people and they're you know, doesn't mean

696
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 5: it it was always easy. But you know, Breonna Stewart

697
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 5: is just the just the world class athlete but even

698
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 5: better person.

699
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 4: You know, Sabrina JJ just all special you.

700
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 5: Know, players, and we face the adversity together and I know,

701
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 5: you know, they had my back, and but you know,

702
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 5: this is the world of you know, if they don't

703
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 5: think I'm the right one, that's okay. But I was

704
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 5: excited about what was coming next. I suppose I had

705
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 5: already processed it.

706
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: I kind of yeah, you were already I processed it.

707
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 4: I kind of knew.

708
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 5: I probably thought like I needed to be in a

709
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 5: different situations just for myself because I feel, you.

710
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 4: Know, I just you know, I know the things I

711
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: would do differently.

712
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you always want to be wanted and want

713
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: people to be so excited that you're there. And if

714
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case anymore than time to move on.

715
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm just worried about you replacing Ellie. There is no

716
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: replacement for Ellie. The Temple will have a big job

717
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: to do try to figure out what they're going to

718
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: throw out there that is.

719
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: That is a big time But I'm excited about that.

720
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: But going back to Stubbs, I.

721
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 5: Mean, they're the people you're missing and the people that

722
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 5: you got really connected to.

723
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: We've known each other for quite some time. She's coming

724
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: to the.

725
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 5: First game and she's going to be there. I'm going

726
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 5: to see I'm heading to New York tomorrow. I'm going

727
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 5: to see her have dinner Thursday night. So you know,

728
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 5: it'd be something to look forward to when I come back.

729
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: To New York.

730
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Renee Stubbs will never party. She'll probably bring the

731
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: party to Toronto if they don't have enough already.

732
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 4: She's in charge.

733
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: I can't wait for the invate. You know, I mentioned

734
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: your husband all off.

735
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: He was on your coaching staff with the Liberty the

736
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: Mercury team Australia. He's recently been hired as the head

737
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: coach of the German women's national team, where he's going

738
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: to reunite with some Liberty players Niarra Sabile and Leoni Phoebich.

739
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: You coach the Australia team and in the W so

740
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: he could double up as well.

741
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: Is he going to be on your staff in Toronto?

742
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 4: Yes? He will official yet, yeah, but he will. Yeah.

743
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 4: He's a great We compliment each other.

744
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 5: He's fantastic and I'm excited for him to be leading Germany.

745
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: And what happens with the Kettos. Are they coming to

746
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: Toronto or are they staying in Phoenix?

747
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: No, we'll stay.

748
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 5: They've been in Phoenix in New York. They were always

749
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 5: in Phoenix and that was a part of it. You know,

750
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 5: it's hard being a mum. You want to have your

751
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 5: family together, but that was They didn't want to leave,

752
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 5: and that's the sacrifice we made because it was the best,

753
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 5: what was best for our children along this journey. At

754
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 5: least all Off and I we actually never coached together

755
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 5: in Phoenix. He was a consultant because he was coaching

756
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 5: in Russia at that time. Boks the first time we've

757
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 5: coached together in the W so it was good. We

758
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 5: you know, he's a great coach and we work well together.

759
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 5: But at least we're together during the scene and the

760
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 5: kids fly in and out and they're, like I said,

761
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 5: they're good kids and.

762
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 1: It's summer break at least, although the season's getting longer

763
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: and longer, so it's a little harder to squeeze the

764
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: whole season into their summer break. Now you may face

765
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: each other Team Australia versus Team Germany.

766
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: How do you imagine the vibes at home will be

767
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: ahead of that one.

768
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 4: We're talking a lot of smack already while I am. Yeah,

769
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: he's Germany.

770
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 5: He doesn't talk too much, but my son is with

771
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 5: him at the moment. They're in camp in Berlin. So

772
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 5: he keeps telling me how many sets do you have?

773
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 5: How many plays you have?

774
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 4: I'm like, how many? His dad got five? I meant

775
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 4: I have five. Yeah, so you know, I mean, how

776
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: exciting is that.

777
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,479
Speaker 5: I don't think you've ever seen a husband and wife

778
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 5: or you know, partnership go against each other coaching two

779
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 5: double countries. But yeah, yeah, we'll see. Look, I'm business

780
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 5: as usual. He was the assistant coach.

781
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: When I am in the twenty twenty one. Oh I remember,

782
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: I'm a Chicago girl.

783
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 5: There you go, and you know, obviously he wasn't the

784
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 5: head coach there, but my kids were. They were so

785
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 5: sad when I lost, so he probably were like, hey,

786
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 5: what's going on?

787
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: You know, what about your about your good old dad,

788
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: you're not exacted?

789
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 5: Where's dad? So they were asked there, asked those questions

790
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 5: a lot. Now, you know, who are you going to support?

791
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 5: And I don't know what they're going to do and

792
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 5: how they're going to experience that.

793
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: We'll see. Only time will tell. If we play, might.

794
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: Be the first time we get the kids wearing the

795
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: split jersey. You know we always see the parents who

796
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: get the custom jerseys where one half is one of

797
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: their children and one half is their other child playing

798
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: against each other. Well, get the kids now half half

799
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: German half Australia.

800
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: Really confused people? How old are they now?

801
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 5: The kiddles Brodie's eighteenth and Jadea's fifteen, and they both

802
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 5: they both love you know, they play basketball and love basketball,

803
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 5: and they love the journey that we're on.

804
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

805
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a really incredible thing to see

806
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: you and your husband and your family handle what it

807
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: is to be a profession coach moving around to different

808
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: cities and making it work. You know, we were at

809
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: the US Open together with a bunch of badasses back

810
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: in August talking women in coaching. Sam Rapaport and Bruce

811
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: Arians and Village in King and Usta coaching, and we

812
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: really were trying to nail down some of the biggest

813
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: barriers to entry for women in coaching, some of the

814
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: things that keep them from moving up the rank, some

815
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: of the things that push them out of coaching. And

816
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: you're one of the most successful coaches in w history

817
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: and you do it as a mom and as a wife.

818
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: What would you change, either just at the pro level

819
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: or even down in college and high school to get

820
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: more women on the sidelines and then staying there.

821
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 5: It's talked about a lot now, isn't it because we

822
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 5: don't have enough. I think we have some great coaches,

823
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 5: but how are they supported that they can actually do

824
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 5: everything and still be.

825
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: Great at it?

826
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 5: And I think that's what it comes back to, is

827
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 5: being supported at the highest level. So it really does

828
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 5: start at the top, knowing that hey, we think you're talented,

829
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 5: we want you.

830
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: Yes, the kids will.

831
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 5: Make sure everything works out, or you know, coordinate with

832
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 5: your husband, whatever it may be.

833
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 4: But just making sure you have.

834
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 5: You feel supported and in all of it, like not

835
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 5: just coaching and at home and you're fine.

836
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: Is everything covered?

837
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 5: So when you get to work that you can actually

838
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 5: just focus on that now, Like I'm a mum. My

839
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 5: son went back to finish year twelve in Australia this year,

840
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 5: so of course I'm can track him as you do,

841
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 5: and you know, I'm always mess messaging him because that

842
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 5: was the only time and sometimes in the middle of

843
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 5: the night that I would have to. But that's I

844
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 5: want that because number one, like, yes, I'm a coach,

845
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 5: but number one, I'm a mum. And my husband said

846
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 5: he's third and it's probably right, but in that regard,

847
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 5: but we're working together. But my children so important and

848
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 5: I wanted in this journey too, like I made them

849
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 5: all have pros and cons and what's the best situation,

850
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 5: But in the end they go, Mum, you go where

851
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 5: you think is the best thing for you. So that

852
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 5: kind of support at home is great too, But like

853
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 5: I think organizations need to start at the top and

854
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 5: how can you provide platforms for your family so that

855
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 5: you're not worried about that you can stay focused on it.

856
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 5: And at the same time, I think just more mentorship

857
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 5: and what it really looks like, how do you overcome

858
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 5: any kind of hurdles that you do because you will

859
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 5: I mean, you're always trying to navigate. I'm just very lucky.

860
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 5: I have a great community in Phoenix that certainly helps

861
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 5: you know, it helps us.

862
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: And if you've made our kids, you know, I'm very

863
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 4: proud of.

864
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 5: Them and the human beings that they've become.

865
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a real push and pull sometimes

866
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: for moms about who am I showing them that I

867
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: can be versus who am I with them?

868
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 2: And they're for them at all times.

869
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: And I had a working mom who's a lawyer, and

870
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: I was very grateful to have teachers who vocalized and

871
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: said how great it was that I was learning and

872
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: seeing somebody be who she was, even if she wasn't

873
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: there every single day to pick me up from school

874
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Speaker 1: the way some of the other moms we couldn't go

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Speaker 1: do tea or something in the middle.

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Speaker 4: Of the day.

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Speaker 1: And remembering that is just as powerful a motivator as

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Speaker 1: the guilt that you might feel of not being there

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Speaker 1: every day. It sounds like your kids completely understand and

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Speaker 1: love who you are and in what you do. Okay,

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Speaker 1: one more question for you, because you mentioned the coaching thing.

882
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Speaker 1: I think every year I'm so torn between of course,

883
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Speaker 1: you hire the best person, but also why do we

884
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Speaker 1: keep ending up with the best quote unquote person usually

885
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Speaker 1: being a white dude, especially in leagues full of women

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Speaker 1: and predominantly black women. So there are currently no black

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Speaker 1: women serving as head coach in the W In recent years,

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Speaker 1: we've seen some highs and lows. We've seen some teams

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Speaker 1: hire black women to lead teams and then fire them

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Speaker 1: almost immediately to see specific issues that have resulted in

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Speaker 1: that lack of representation on the sidelines, or how do

892
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Speaker 1: we move forward saying yes, hire the best and also

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Speaker 1: make sure that the pipeline allows for the best to

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Speaker 1: be representative of the league that they're coaching.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, it is quite sad. That's why I'm

896
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Speaker 5: excited of Toronto. It's you know, it's I'm a former player,

897
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Speaker 5: but we need some more diversity in our league. And

898
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Speaker 5: we don't have any black head coaches anymore. But maybe

899
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Speaker 5: in New York that will change with the upcoming Oh yea,

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Speaker 5: so have an opportunity there, you know. For me, it's yeah,

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Speaker 5: this is a great game and everyone it's all about winning,

902
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Speaker 5: isn't it.

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Speaker 4: And I'm going to get the right people in.

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Speaker 5: Well, maybe there are the right people but they haven't

905
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Speaker 5: been given the opportunity to show what they can do,

906
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Speaker 5: and they're not feel supported from the top. And that's

907
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Speaker 5: what it's about now. Not everyone can win. The hardest

908
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Speaker 5: thing to do at the highest level and at any level,

909
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Speaker 5: is to win. You know, I know what that feels like.

910
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Speaker 5: And the hardest thing to do is to repeat. So

911
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 5: we've been there, So what's the process of how do

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Speaker 5: we you know, how do we assist the coaches? You know,

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Speaker 5: if they're former players, I think they should be because

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Speaker 5: I think there should be more of us because we've

915
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Speaker 5: been there, done that, and there's some great, great coaches

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Speaker 5: out there who yes, I mean, maybe they didn't have

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Speaker 5: a great first experience, but the only way you grow

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Speaker 5: is through the learning experiences.

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Speaker 4: I was one time I was.

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Speaker 5: In San Antoni and should have never taken the job

921
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Speaker 5: because I was pregnant child and we made the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: but I can't even remember it because I had two

923
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Speaker 5: kids traveling with one assistant coach.

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Speaker 4: I was exhausted, but I thought I could do it

925
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Speaker 4: because it was more like, no, I want to do this,

926
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Speaker 4: this is great. I need to.

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Speaker 5: Promote women can do this, you know where, But it

928
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Speaker 5: wasn't the right time, but I went away and obviously

929
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Speaker 5: got better through the experience, so when I had my

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Speaker 5: next opportunity.

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Speaker 4: I was more prepared for it at all levels.

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Speaker 5: That's the part of it, believing in these people, giving

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Speaker 5: them opportunity, but helping them, supporting them along the journey,

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Speaker 5: because I always say the hardest thing about head coaching

935
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Speaker 5: it gets lonely at the top. You know, unless you've

936
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Speaker 5: experienced it, no one knows what it feels like. You know,

937
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 5: if you've never done it, if you've never played pro sport,

938
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Speaker 5: or if you never coached it at the highest level,

939
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Speaker 5: you don't know what it's like. So it's just surrounding

940
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 5: yourself with just really good people and continue to support.

941
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Speaker 5: But you know, obviously individual teams have to make the

942
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Speaker 5: best decisions for them and we'll see what the future holds.

943
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's part of it too, is like

944
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: how do you get that second opportunity or the chance

945
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: to figure out what you did wrong the first time

946
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: and do it again, as opposed to those one and

947
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Speaker 1: done where it feels like there aren't enough opportunities to

948
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: get another shot. We've taken up too much of your time,

949
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: so you have to do one more thing. It's kind

950
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: of like bench start cut, but nobody gets cut, which

951
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: is nice.

952
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: You don't have to cut anything. It's just good.

953
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 4: Thank you.

954
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: Yes, it's just good, good or goodest. Something is good,

955
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: gooder and something is goodest. So start with start with

956
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: good and move up to a goodest. Winning as a

957
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: player for Australia, winning as a coach for Australia, winning

958
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Speaker 1: as a coach in the WNBA.

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Speaker 4: Ooh, that's that's a good one. I love that one.

960
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 4: That's a that is really really I'd say good winning

961
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 4: as a coach for Australia.

962
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Speaker 5: Okay, good er, winning as a coach for WNBA team,

963
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 5: and the goodest winning a gold medal with your home

964
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 5: nation as a player.

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Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah.

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00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: It's hard to replace the feeling of actually being on

967
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Speaker 1: the court. And it's impressive to me when someone goes

968
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: from being a player to a coach and can release

969
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: just enough control to be in charge but then be like,

970
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: it's up to them whether they get it done on.

971
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Speaker 4: Your Yeah, and you just got to empower him, don't

972
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 4: You put him in there.

973
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Speaker 5: You can put him in the right situations and you

974
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 5: give him you know, there's a system in place, but

975
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 5: you want to give him freedom because he's the best

976
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 5: players in the world. If I wanted to control him,

977
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 5: I wouldn't last very long in this job, would I.

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00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: Well, we're so excited to see what happens up in Toronto.

980
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: I can't wait to come up and watch. Thanks so

981
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: much for the time. I know you're super busy.

982
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, I appreciate it. Thank you.

983
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: Thanks again to Sandy for taking the time. We got

984
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Speaker 1: to take another break when we return, watch out Bam.

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